Thursday, 2017-01-19

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sigmavirus#startmeeting glance13:58
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 13:58:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sigmavirus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:58
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:58
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"13:58
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'13:58
sigmavirus#chair rosmaita13:58
openstackCurrent chairs: rosmaita sigmavirus13:58
sigmavirus#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda13:58
abhishek_ko/13:58
sigmavirusCourtesy reminder ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash13:59
sigmavirus#topic Roll Call13:59
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sigmavirusHey abhishek_k :)13:59
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rosmaitasigmavirus: your clock is a bit early13:59
sigmavirusMy clock says it's 8:01:4513:59
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rosmaitamine says 13:59:4113:59
sigmavirusOne of us has clock drift (or both) =P13:59
abhishek_khey sigmavirus :), mine too13:59
mfedosino/14:00
rosmaitaok, def 14:00 now14:00
rosmaitao/14:00
dharinic\o14:00
hemanthmo/14:00
stevelleo/14:00
rosmaitasigmavirus: anyway, thanks for noticing and getting the meeting started14:00
rosmaitalooks like a decent turnout14:01
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rosmaitaok, so i was going to say i want to keep things short today because i'm not feeling well, but something happened at 13:17utc today to make me feel much better14:01
rosmaita#topic updates14:01
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sigmavirusrosmaita: looks like my other laptop is two minutes in the past14:01
nikhilo/14:01
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rosmaita#info community images status14:02
rosmaitaok, at 13:17utc stevelle 's tempest patch was approved14:02
nikhil\o/14:02
rosmaitathat clears the way for us to merge community images as soon as stevelle 's patch is merged14:02
rosmaitathe test change will, i think, make all other glance changes fail until CI is merged14:03
stevelleit shoudn't14:03
rosmaitaeven better!14:03
rosmaitaeven so, we want to get CI merged today14:04
rosmaita(or at least I do, and hence, all of you do, too!)14:04
jokke_o/14:04
sigmavirusrosmaita: this is good news =)14:04
rosmaitahemanthm had put a +2 with some minor corrections, so he's checking CI over again14:04
rosmaitai have already +2'd it14:04
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rosmaitasigmavirus: indeed!14:04
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rosmaitaso we should be ready to go, let's hope the gate cooperates14:05
jokke_ \\o \o/ o// o/714:05
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rosmaitanext steps are i will put up a patch for the CI release notes and promote it on the operators list14:06
rosmaitai want to make sure everyone is clear about the changes14:06
rosmaitaand, i'll put up a patch to update the api-ref14:06
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dharinicAfter almost a month when all the issue starterd, CI is going to merge :)14:06
rosmaitathat's all about CI for the moment ... any questions, comments?14:07
nikhilIf they are not they will have to be at some point of time (aware)14:07
nikhilaware==clear14:07
rosmaitanikhil: we have communicated about the change to the ops list, even took a survey14:07
rosmaitai'd like to get some actual operators reviewing the release notes patch, though14:08
nikhilCool14:08
rosmaitasince they are the intended audience14:08
rosmaitayeah14:08
stevelleI expect we will hear from surprised operators ~1y from now14:08
stevelleno matter what we do14:08
rosmaitayes, when they upgrade from kilo :)14:08
rosmaitaok, moving along14:09
rosmaita#info acceptable API changes discussion14:09
rosmaitaso CI wasn't the only issue we've had to discuss with the QA team recently14:09
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420038/14:09
rosmaitathat's a sigmavirus patch that has caused some controversy14:10
rosmaitaand has resulted in ken (the qa ptl) proposing a patch to the api-wg guidelines14:10
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422264/14:10
rosmaitajust for awareness, if you are interested in that kind of thing14:11
nikhilOkay..14:11
sigmavirusYeah, since you brought that up14:11
nikhilI was gonna suggest we do it but he has done it already14:11
rosmaitaalso, cdent put up something on the ML, a proposal for an "api compatability" tag14:11
sigmavirusI'm just going to change our API Ref docs14:11
rosmaitasigmavirus: just hold off for now14:11
nikhilAPI compatibility tag may mean a lot of things14:12
rosmaitai don't have a link to the ML discussion ATM14:12
rosmaitanikhil: yes indeed, it's intentionally vague at this point14:12
nikhil:)14:12
rosmaitabut, it will be refined14:12
rosmaitaand we will have to live with the result ... so, again, just a point of information if you are interested in that kind of thing14:13
rosmaita#info priorities14:13
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110141.html14:13
jokke_sigmavirus: IMO your patch is accurate. We are correcting a bug in our response that has been documented correctly. That is outright bug and should not need discussion14:13
rosmaitajokke_: i agree14:14
rosmaitasince you brought it up, there is an issue here about what counts as the "API contract"14:14
rosmaitathat's why i think it's important that this be addressed directly by the api-wg14:14
rosmaitaso, sigmavirus, i respectfully ask that you not cave on this yet14:14
jokke_as much as I'm against changing the api once it's published, but in this case the documentation points to the correct behaviour and any testing done toward that response should have flagged that the response code is wrong14:15
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rosmaitajokke_: be sure to join the discussion on the patches (links above)14:16
stevellefwiw I have a vote, but no harm if that change doesn't go the way I voted. it's clear this is a bug and test coverage was missed on it so I understand that reasoning.14:16
hemanthmI haven't made up my mind yet on this, so maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate here. But, once an API is published, there isn't a more explicit contract than that.14:16
rosmaitaok, glance coresec: i will update you-know-what today, the proposed patches will not work, i will outline how i think this issue needs to be handled14:16
rosmaitathat was priority 0, it will carry over14:17
rosmaitapriority 1 was glance_store release, ian will discuss a bit later14:17
jokke_rosmaita: will do14:17
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rosmaitapriority 2 was port glance migrations to alembic, which is part of the rolling upgrades effort14:18
rosmaitaas soon as CI is merged, the database work for rolling upgrades can get moving faster14:19
rosmaitaand since that's an ocata priority, they'll move up in the list for the coming week14:19
rosmaitapriority 3 was abhishek_k 's request-id patch for glanceclient14:20
rosmaitaand, no movement on that, still needs reviews14:20
abhishek_kyes, new patch is up for review, waiting :)14:20
rosmaitahopefully with the CI stuff out of the way, there will be some more bandwidth14:20
rosmaitaabhishek_k: i will commit to review it tomorrow14:21
abhishek_kno issues, thank you14:21
rosmaitaglance cores: need a volunteer to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352892/14:21
rosmaitai mean, someone to volunteer right now14:21
rosmaitait's kind of embarrassing that this has been on the list so long14:21
sigmavirusCan we volunteer another core? =P14:21
sigmavirusI lost track of it.14:21
sigmavirus#action sigmavirus to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352892/14:22
sigmavirus^Volunteered rosmaita14:22
rosmaitasigmavirus: i salute you!14:22
sigmavirusAm I about to rock?14:22
rosmaita#action rosmaita review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352892/14:22
rosmaitado people still listen to ac/dc?14:22
abhishek_kthank you rosmaita, sigmavirus14:23
sigmavirusOnly the best people still listen to them14:23
rosmaitatouche!14:23
mfedosinonly their old things14:23
stevellerosmaita: in nursing homes yes14:23
sigmavirusstevelle: I've still got a hip!14:23
sigmavirusI mean, I'm still hip14:23
rosmaitastevelle: iron prostate!14:23
stevelle:)14:23
rosmaita(that was actually a band in the 90s, i have a vinyl LP to prove it)14:24
rosmaita"rock 'n' roll nursing home"14:24
rosmaitaok, i am wandering14:24
sigmavirusYeah. Back on topic rosmaita14:24
rosmaitaanyone have any new priorities for the week that we should consider?14:24
rosmaitaactually, i need to:14:25
rosmaita#action rosmaita comminity images release notes patch14:25
rosmaita#action rosmaita api-ref CI update patch14:25
sigmavirusrosmaita: from a release schedule perspective, we need to focus on glanceclient priority reviews and then on glance O-3 deadliens14:26
rosmaitasigmavirus: i salute you again14:26
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stevelleand then strings / docs ?14:26
rosmaitathe weekly priority list, by the way, has a link in the "topic" in teh openstack-glance channel14:27
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sigmavirusJust so everyone's aware14:27
rosmaitasoft string freese is next week14:27
nikhil#action nikhil to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352892/14:27
rosmaitahard string freeze is week of jan 3014:27
sigmavirus#info next week is O-3 milestone; feature freeze; final release for client libraries; requirements freeze14:28
sigmavirus#link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:28
rosmaitathe end is fast approaching14:28
sigmavirusSo please let's gather our priorities for glanceclient and feature priorities for glance14:28
sigmavirusAfter O-3 we can focus on bugs14:28
nikhilany client and store releases pending for ocata?14:28
sigmavirusAll Ocata bug priorities should be decided at next week's meeting14:28
sigmavirusnikhil: client's final release freeze is next week14:28
sigmavirusnikhil: glance store was tagged adn bagged yesterday14:29
nikhil++14:29
nikhilI'm wondering if we should freeze on client asap too?14:29
sigmavirusnikhil: I think we have a bit of time14:29
nikhilas soon as this is done 352892 ?14:29
rosmaitanikhil: we need to get CI changes into client, i think14:29
sigmavirusI would say our feature freeze should be 4 or 5 days from now14:29
nikhilgotcha14:29
sigmavirusrosmaita: has anyone actually started that?14:29
rosmaitathere is a patch up for CI in glanceclient14:29
rosmaitaalex_bash14:30
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sigmavirusrosmaita: Alex's not in here14:30
nikhilclient has tendency to break the world14:30
sigmavirusrosmaita: also not in #openstack-glance14:30
nikhilgiven it's used by million other projects, better safe than sorry14:30
sigmavirusrosmaita: someone else should be prepared to take that over14:30
rosmaitasigmavirus: he's on paternity leave14:30
stevelleso CI changes and the request-id changes expected for client. any others known?14:30
nikhilonly reason for me being a pain to freeze soon14:30
sigmavirusnikhil: yep14:30
rosmaitai'll put it on the priority list so that it can be reviewed14:30
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nikhil++ rosmaita14:31
rosmaitastevelle: there are some patches related to 'ploop' support14:31
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stevelleok, lets get those on the list too14:31
nikhilI can focus on CI and req id14:31
sigmavirusrosmaita: those are lowish priority imo14:31
rosmaita#action rosmaita make list of glanceclient patches for priority list14:31
nikhilbut I will be away tomorrow and monday travelling14:31
sigmavirusnikhil: Thanks for that head's up :)14:32
sigmavirusSafe travels14:32
nikhilthank you :)14:32
rosmaitasigmavirus: you are right, they only affect "offline" ploop support14:32
sigmavirusand help strings14:32
rosmaitaotherwise, 'ploop' is already in the images schema14:32
sigmavirusso they're good to get in for the soft string freeze14:32
sigmavirusbut14:32
sigmavirusthat's not as high prio to me as CI and Req ID14:33
rosmaitaagreed, plus my comments on those reviews are not helping, they will make the patches more complicated14:33
sigmavirusrosmaita: yeah14:33
rosmaita#action rosmaita make clear the priority ordering of glanceclient patches14:34
rosmaitaok, next topic14:34
rosmaita#topic reminder about disallowed minor code changes14:34
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rosmaitai saw a bunch of patches earlier this week for minor changes14:35
rosmaita-2'd them all14:35
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sigmavirusrosmaita++14:35
rosmaitaso if you see such, feel free to minus wiht the strongest integer you have, and refer the patch author to:14:36
rosmaita#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/contributing/minor-code-changes.html14:36
rosmaitathat's all about that14:36
rosmaitaexcept to say, it would be a good idea to look over the minor code changes doc to remind yourself what's in it14:37
rosmaita#topic Glare14:37
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jokke_++14:37
rosmaitamfedosin: you have the floor14:37
mfedosinhey! nice to meet all of you14:37
mfedosinso, I think you saw my message in ml14:38
mfedosinthat is it :)14:38
mfedosinrosmaita asked me to prepare small document about next plans for Glare14:38
mfedosinhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glare-plans14:38
mfedosinI separate all tasks in 3 groups:14:39
mfedosin1. What Nokia (my current employer) is required14:39
mfedosin2. Other cool and important things14:39
mfedosin3. Small tasks and improvements14:40
mfedosinSo, what Nokia's required and I'll do first14:40
mfedosinthey need an artifact type for their package14:41
rosmaitafor Nokia-#4, are you talking about blobs in the DB?14:41
mfedosinnope, it's like it's done in Glance14:41
mfedosinadd-location14:41
rosmaitaok, so blobs in the backend14:41
mfedosinin Glare there are external locations and internal (from upload)14:42
rosmaitalooking at your list quickly, that seems to be the place where glare/glance would interesct in Pike, namely, in the glance_store14:42
mfedosinsometimes it's useful to upload some file to store directly and set this location to blob14:42
rosmaitaotherwise, it looks mostly like Glare work ATM14:43
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mfedosinyeah, glance_store14:44
mfedosinI want to fix a lot of things there, but I'm not sure that you allow me :)14:44
rosmaitawell, that's why we're having this discussion!14:44
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mfedosinafair kairat wanted to join this initiative as well14:45
rosmaitai did send something to the ML asking about the quality of the internet connections at the PTG, but have not got a clear answer yet14:45
rosmaitamy point being, we need to discuss glance_store at the PTG14:45
rosmaitaand get some specificity about what we can do in Pike14:46
nikhilsomeone can use their 4G hotspot14:46
nikhillol14:46
mfedosinokay, I'll prepare a doc that my wishlist14:46
rosmaitamfedosin: that would be helpful14:46
mfedosini.e. what exactly we want to improve in glance_store14:46
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mfedosinand next week we'll be able to discuss it more detailed14:47
rosmaita#action mfedosin prepare doc with glare glance_store wishlist14:47
rosmaitaok, great14:47
sigmavirusmfedosin: will Nokia bribe contributors with phones perhaps?14:47
sigmavirusI could use a new one =P14:47
mfedosinI'll ask them14:47
jokke_sigmavirus: they haven't done phones for years :P14:48
mfedosinI'll have 1/1 with my manager right after this meeting :)14:48
rosmaitaok, we'll hold any questions for next week, and move on to open discussion14:48
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:48
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mfedosinthey'll be back soon14:48
sigmavirusjokke_: the old ones could survive a nuclear detonation so, I'm cool with that14:48
rosmaitasigmavirus: they may have to, after this week14:48
sigmavirus /cue ominous music14:49
mfedosinbtw, have you seen my demos?14:49
sigmavirusmfedosin: demolitions?14:49
stevelleI like turtles14:49
nikhilturtles all the way 'down'14:49
rosmaitainterruption: stevelle 's tempest patch merged 3 min ago14:49
mfedosinlike this https://asciinema.org/a/9798614:50
rosmaita#action hemanthm complete his CI review as soon as possible14:50
mfedosinif you want you may call it demolition14:50
* sigmavirus throws a party for stevelle 14:51
mfedosinall 4 demos are here https://asciinema.org/a/97985 https://asciinema.org/a/97986 https://asciinema.org/a/97987 https://asciinema.org/a/9977114:51
stevelleit feels a little anticlimactic tbh. that isn't CI merging yet14:52
rosmaitastevelle: tell hemanthm to review faster!14:52
* hemanthm feels the pressure14:53
stevelleI would but I don't want to distract him14:53
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rosmaitait's gone pretty quiet in here ... any final comments?14:55
stevelleI like turtles still14:55
sigmavirusI prefer crickets14:55
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nikhilwe can close 5 mins short and make  it a glance style short meeting :)14:55
sigmavirusnikhil: true14:55
sigmavirusmake everyone spend that time reviewing CI14:55
rosmaitaby the way, i did ask on the ML about the glance logo14:56
jokke_saw that, no response sofar14:56
rosmaitareply was that a new one is almost ready for us to evaluate14:56
jokke_I'm good calling early14:56
rosmaitaanyway, i will notify the ML if the new logo comes in before the next meeting14:56
rosmaitaok, let's end early14:57
rosmaitasigmavirus: want to do the honors? by your clock, we are at ending time anyway!14:57
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* nikhil runs ahead of speed of light to catch up with the clock14:58
rosmaita#endmeeting14:59
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nikhilsigmavirus rosmaita jk :)14:59
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 15:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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matt-borlando/15:00
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sjmc7morning15:01
robcresswello/15:01
sjmc7agenda is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda and it’s short today15:02
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sjmc7#topic ocata-315:02
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rosmaitao/15:02
sjmc7Ocata milestone 3 is next week. Hasn’t time flown by etc etc15:02
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sjmc7The pipeline patch that’ll enable things like the zaqar use case merged last week (yay)15:03
stevelleo/15:03
TravT\o/15:03
sjmc7The biggest outstanding patch is the ironic plugin which is really close15:03
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sjmc7I’m pretty confident we can get that in for o-3, then there are a few other outstanding reviews and bugs but not a huge number15:04
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sjmc7matt-borland: i believe you fixed the problem stopping the horizon plugin working properly?15:05
matt-borlandI believe so, Travis was going to test it as well15:05
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TravTyes, it all works now...15:06
TravTthere are some navigation issues15:06
matt-borlandAwesome! :)15:06
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sjmc7Ok. So we’re in pretty good shape; the rest of the ocata release should mostly be testing15:06
TravTthat were introduced in upstream horizon.15:06
TravTappear to be styling related15:06
TravTi filed bugs15:06
sjmc7I’m intending to put a patch up for the ES-5 issue (https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1655396) today15:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655396 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "No "filtered" query in ES 5; API queries fail" [Critical,New]15:06
robcresswellTravT: Bugs?15:06
TravTlet me grab those15:06
sjmc7horizon doens’t introduce bugs!15:07
matt-borlandTabs on details are broken, right?15:07
sjmc7what slander15:07
TravThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/165604515:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656045 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) ocata "Dashboard panels intermittently disappear when they are in the 'default' panel group." [High,New]15:07
TravThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/165605115:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656051 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) ocata "Angular registry detailViews no longer display as tabs" [High,New]15:07
robcresswellhmm interesting15:07
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matt-borlandProbably the last one at least is new ui-bootstrap libs15:08
robcresswellmatt-borland: Probably15:08
sjmc7Ok. I guess we’ll keep an eye on those. They presumably affect other plugins too15:09
robcresswellI rewrote the nav, so I probably broke something there15:10
TravTyeah, i bet the other one matt-borland already fixed also affected other horizon plugins15:10
matt-borlandyeah, LBaaS panel most likely is a victim15:10
matt-borlandbut that's another topic15:10
TravTyep15:10
robcresswellmatt-borland: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/2925562c1a3f0a9b3e2d55833691a7b0ad10eb2a/horizon/static/framework/widgets/details/details.html#L215:10
robcresswellshould be uib-tabset15:10
robcresswell(sorry, I'll stop horizoning all over your meeting)15:11
sjmc7:)15:11
TravTno worries!15:11
sjmc7Any other concerns for the o-3 milestone? rosmaita - the glance image visibility stuff, is that likely to get into ocata?15:12
rosmaitajust put it on the agenda15:13
rosmaitayes, should merge this morining15:13
rosmaita(though since i said that out loud, who knows?)15:13
sjmc7urgh, ok15:13
rosmaitahere's a quick summary of the changes: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-ocata-sharing-release-note-draft15:13
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sjmc7ok, thanks. we’ll need to take a look at that fairly urgently i guess15:15
rosmaitai will make myself available to help in whatever way you need15:15
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sjmc7ok. hopefully won’t be too unpleasant. we’ll need to support both formats for a while?15:15
* rosmaita thinking15:16
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sjmc7fortunately we didn’t map anything as boolean so the additional visibility value won’t be a problem15:16
rosmaitai think from searchlight POV, you can support only the new format15:16
TravTorly?15:17
rosmaitathe problematic api changes have had to do with how you make 'shared' images in glance15:17
TravTwe don't need to worry about any backwards compatibility fun-ness?15:17
sjmc7so the only change was not allowing private+members?15:17
rosmaitahmmm15:17
sjmc7so we just likely need to add an additional check to the membership query to check that ‘visibility’ is also set to shared15:18
rosmaitayou are correct15:18
sjmc7ok. that doesn’t sound too heinous15:18
rosmaitayes, in Ocata, if it's private with members, means => not shared15:18
sjmc7i’ll file a bp for it, i can get a patch up before o-315:18
rosmaitapre-ocata, would mean shared15:18
TravTi think we have a bp15:19
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/glance-visibility-changes-shared-community15:19
sjmc7ok. so just need to implement it. cool, thanks for bringing that up, brian15:19
rosmaitanp15:20
TravTrobcresswell: ^ not sure if anybody looked at this for horizon either15:20
* robcresswell grumbles something about stable APIs15:20
robcresswell:D15:21
sjmc7:D15:21
TravT:)15:21
rosmaitahey, this is openstack15:21
sjmc7you just missed the glance meeting, you could’ve brought that up there :)15:21
sjmc7always popular15:21
robcresswellI'm not even sure we had visibility right at the last release15:21
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TravTyes, slinging mud at whoever is on the glance team is always a popular activity15:21
sjmc7haha, why break the habit then15:21
robcresswellbut yes, thanks for the heads up15:21
rosmaitarobcresswell: ping me if you need more info15:22
sjmc7Ok. Any other ocata-3 things?15:22
robcresswelltbh I dont think anyone outside glance knows how its supposed to work anyway, so they wont know if its broken15:22
robcresswellcheers rosmaita15:22
sjmc7that’s the spirit!15:22
TravT:)15:22
TravT:D:D15:22
rosmaitawell, some stuff will still work15:22
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sjmc7also a good motto15:23
rosmaita"glance: some stuff working since 2011"15:24
TravT:)15:25
sjmc7Moving on if there’s nothing else on this15:25
sjmc7#topic PTL nominations15:25
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sjmc7Self-nominations start next week. If anyone’s interested in doing it for Pike but doesn’t know what’s involved please feel free to ask me or Travis15:26
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sjmc7I’m OK doing it again, although my involvement’s been a bit reduced as our company priorities have changed15:27
rosmaitasjmc7: yay for doing it again, boo for company priorities15:28
sjmc7But if anyone else would like the opportunity, please feel free to nominate themselves. Typically that involves an email to the mailing list plus a review on the governance repo15:28
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sjmc7Oh, i beg pardon, the nomination period opened yesterday and runs til Jan 29th15:29
sjmc7Details at https://governance.openstack.org/election/15:29
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sjmc7Ok, that was all i had15:30
sjmc7#topic Open discussion15:30
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sjmc7lei-zh yingjun - when’s your holiday for new year?15:32
TravTi don't know if this came up prior to me joining, but we should get this in for ocata-315:32
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/420609/15:32
Kevin_Zheng27th15:33
lei-zhsjmc7: seven days from Jan 27, if I don't get it wrong...15:33
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sjmc7it didn’t TravT , thanks. we should be able ot get that in15:33
sjmc77 days! that’s a nice holiday15:33
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lei-zhyeah, it's always the most important holiday here15:34
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sjmc7here everyone just goes out and gets drunk15:35
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lei-zhhaha15:35
sjmc7ok, well, if there’s nothing else, i’ll let everyone get back to work/bed15:35
sjmc7If we can get these last reviews through, we’ll be in good shape for the o-3 milestone15:36
sjmc7Thanks everyone!15:36
TravTthank you!15:36
Kevin_Zhengrhanks15:36
Kevin_Zhengthanks15:36
sjmc7#endmeeting15:37
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weezSJan 28 is the chinese new year.15:39
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asettle#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:00
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asettle#topic roll call16:01
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asettle#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:01
openstackasettle: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.16:01
asettleSTOP16:01
asettleHahaha16:01
asettleFrick16:01
asettlenot my day today16:01
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asettleHey cathrichardson :)16:01
rromans.16:01
andymccro/`16:01
cathrichardson:016:01
cathrichardson:)16:01
alextricity25o/16:01
spotz\o/16:02
automagically_o/16:02
logan-o/16:02
asettlehttp://data.whicdn.com/images/82095776/large.gif16:02
asettleThanks team for all making it over ;)16:02
asettleGive it a minute or so more.16:02
xgermano/16:03
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evrardjphello16:03
odyssey4meo/16:04
weezSThere should be applause16:04
odyssey4menoddy badge for asettle :)16:04
asettleYeah wow, what a derp start to the meeting16:04
asettleSorry peoples16:04
asettleMe today:16:05
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/1171f60ff599233dd980af8438c49210/tumblr_n59mwmJx5J1t3gucoo1_500.gif16:05
asettleRight, let's get this party started!16:05
asettle#topic Review action items from last week16:05
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asettleI don't know if we had any...16:05
asettleLet me double check16:05
asettleSorry, we do16:05
asettleFirst action: Team to populate etherpad with ideas and discussion point for PTG16:06
asettleHas everyone reviewed the etherpad for the PTG?16:06
asettle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:06
asettleEveryone that is attending - put your names down16:06
asettleAny topics you want to talk about - put them down there too16:06
asettleWho is attending the PTG?16:06
andymccrok so mhayden and asettle have added some. I need to add some too16:06
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asettleandymccr: that was an action item for you16:07
asettleI can carry that one over16:07
andymccryeah please do16:07
asettle#action andymccr to update PTG etherpad16:07
andymccrjust getting caught up in getting things ready for the release! I'll be on top of it after next week16:07
asettleNext action item from last week, andymccr to close out the trusty-removal blueprint16:07
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andymccralso a reminder - it would be most appreciated if you could include blueprints16:07
asettleClosed, andymccr ?16:07
* automagically_ not attending the PTG16:07
andymccri removed it from the list - but i'll close it out16:07
asettleautomagically_: boo bro, boo :(16:07
odyssey4meautomagically_ :(16:07
asettleandymccr: please close now :)16:07
asettleNext action item from last week: team to review palendae 's spec16:08
asettle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419116/16:08
asettleThis appears to have *not* been reviewed.16:08
asettleCould we get some eyes on this one please? automagically_ jmccrory evrardjp odyssey4me andymccr et al16:08
andymccri'll take a look but probably after next week16:09
* automagically_ looking16:09
evrardjpstarred!16:09
andymccradded myself as a reviewer16:09
asettleOh, me too ha16:09
asettleokay, well thanks and thank you evrardjp16:09
asettle:)16:09
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asettleOur last action item on the list was for the meeting host to include a new meeting section called "review my patch".16:09
asettleI will add this section at the *end* of our meeting16:10
asettleHooray!16:10
asettlehttps://68.media.tumblr.com/261733ff5718770535b28ebea028aa52/tumblr_mkqeob4BXl1s4xdz1o1_500.gif16:10
asettleMoving along16:10
asettleFirst topic16:10
asettle#topic Operations guide16:10
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asettleAll those that like and love a good operations guide, and have the time to review the doc, please see here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/draft-operations-guide/index.html16:10
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* automagically_ doing so, and submitting patches as I go16:11
asettleI have nothing more to say there unless anyone has any questions and comments? :)16:11
asettleThanks automagically_ !16:11
automagically_Thanks all for the hard work on the ops guide16:11
automagically_I’ve also asked some of my peers internally to review it16:12
asettleautomagically_: if you or anyone is able to provide ops experience to help build out some sections, that would be awesome!16:12
asettleWe're still looking for some things to be fleshed out16:12
asettleYou can see if any of your internals can help out on any of these topics: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStackAnsible#Documentation_planning16:12
automagically_We’ll do what we can16:13
asettleThats' great :) thanks automagically_16:13
asettlehttp://a.fod4.com/images/GifGuide/dancing/tumblr_lit5wdB6j21qcfba3o1_500.gif16:13
asettleExcitable Alex!16:13
asettleNext up:16:13
asettle#topic PTG - Feb 20-2416:13
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asettleandymccr: got anything more to add here?16:13
andymccrok so - just keeping this as an ongoing topic really.16:13
asettleTo reiterate...16:13
asettle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:13
andymccragain its all about getting blueprints etc together for the etherpad ^16:14
andymccrso yeah more just a reminder, will keep it up until the PTG happens :D16:14
asettleSweet!16:14
asettleDoes anyone know of anything they'd like to talk about at the summit but are too afraid to put on the etherpad?16:14
andymccrif thats the case, feel free to msg me to talk about it.16:15
asettleCool :)16:15
asettleThanks andymccr16:15
andymccrAlso this applies to people who arent able to attend the PTG either16:15
andymccrlet me know and we can discuss and i'll do my best to represent/raise it16:15
asettleGreat idea :) thanks andymccr16:16
asettleNext up16:16
asettle#topic Release planning and decisions16:16
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asettleandymccr: this is you, o' PTL16:16
andymccrok16:16
andymccrso!16:16
asettleWhat's a hap-happening?16:16
andymccrnewton/mitaka releases went out today.16:17
andymccrbut more importantly, this is the last week of Ocata "feature" work.16:17
andymccri'll try do milestone 3 for Ocata mid week next week, to give us time to merge any patches that are important16:17
andymccrbut i want to raise a few that are ongoing and I'd like to see reviewed and merged if possible16:17
andymccr#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409407/ logan- has a ceph patch up and its currently passing teh ceph experimental gate16:18
andymccrso i think that should be able to go in16:18
andymccr#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391524/ the dragonflow patch worked on by oanson and evrardjp pretty much all cycle - if that could be reviewed16:18
andymccrand lastly i'll have a patch up to do nova-placement API which will be ready in time (hopefully) so i may ping some ppl tomorrow/monday for reviews16:19
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asettleThanks andymccr :) I can reiterate those patches at the end of the meeting too16:19
andymccrdoes anybody else have any other patches that need to go in?16:19
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andymccror need reviews/help getting patches in?16:19
andymccrlet me know and i'll do my best to help move them along.16:19
asettle+2 - will also try to help16:20
evrardjpall my artifacts one :)16:20
evrardjpso I'll probably give a link in the chan later16:21
logan-working on dragonflow testing. now that the ansible thing is fixed I can build aios again so i'll hopefully have some info on whats still outstanding w/ that one today16:21
evrardjphttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:artifacts16:21
asettleevrardjp: thanks !16:21
evrardjp#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:artifacts16:21
andymccrthere's only 1 there and its for stable/newton - are more coming evrardjp?16:21
evrardjpyes :)16:22
andymccrok16:22
evrardjpgiving the generic url16:22
evrardjpsorry thinking ahead :p16:22
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evrardjpbut they gonna need some love!16:22
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logan-evrardjp: is the developer mode stuff needed in newton for any of your work?16:22
evrardjpit is a certainly welcomed addition16:23
evrardjpI'll evaluate this and maybe we could backport together if needed, and talk about it in the next community meeting?16:24
logan-sure. i already forked & bp the ones I need because I wasn't sure if anyone upstream needs them bp. but I'm happy to handle proposing them if they'll be of any use16:24
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evrardjpwe always need to be careful about the standard behavior, but as I said, I think it's a good addition16:25
evrardjpthanks for this work btw :D16:25
asettleOkay great, everyone ready to scoot on?16:26
logan-yep!16:26
asettle#topic Blueprint work16:26
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asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/security-rhel7-stig16:26
asettleRHEL 7 STIG - mhayden16:26
asettleI believe mhayden is indisposed. But the current status is still 'active development'16:27
mhaydendone!16:27
mhaydennext :)16:27
andymccrmarked as implemented16:27
asettleOH HEY!16:27
andymccrso done!16:27
andymccrcelebrations16:27
mhaydenput a fork in it16:27
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mhaydenit's done16:27
mhayden:)16:27
asettlehttp://a.fod4.com/images/GifGuide/dancing/tumblr_lit5wdB6j21qcfba3o1_500.gif16:27
asettleExcitement16:27
asettleOkay, next up16:27
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-testing16:27
asettleUpgrade testing, andymccr16:27
andymccrwork is being done on the integrated upgrade build16:28
asettleBoom boom16:28
asettleUpgrades got nufin on andymccr16:28
asettlehttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4d/bd/b3/4dbdb35c73eb21489b302c758b6d9784.gif16:28
evrardjpthat's a weird gif16:28
asettleBeen waiting all day to use that gif16:28
asettleWorth it.16:28
evrardjpI bet you were16:28
asettle:p16:28
asettleAny further update andymccr ?16:28
evrardjpCould we stop 'though?16:28
andymccr#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421295/16:28
* automagically_ wishes he hadn’t viewed that gif16:29
andymccrwas just looking for the pr16:29
asettleautomagically_: you are *welcome*16:29
andymccrbut thats it for upgrade testing - thats pretty much the last thing16:29
andymccr(and most important)16:29
asettleExcellent :)16:29
asettleAnd then the last blueprint16:29
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/create-ops-guide16:29
asettleOperations guide - which we have already more or less discussed16:30
asettleActive development, slow going.16:30
asettleNeeds reviews and contributors.16:30
asettleAnyone have any other blueprints we have missed?16:30
asettleTo be fair, I see a fair few16:31
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible16:31
andymccrmost are not active i believe16:31
asettleodyssey4me - what's the update on the upgrade path from Mitaka to Newton? Can we close this?16:31
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-mitaka-newton16:31
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andymccrwe should audit those16:31
asettleWe really should.16:32
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odyssey4measettle apparently mitaka->newton works16:32
asettleodyssey4me: can close?16:32
odyssey4meI don't know though - never tested it personally16:32
odyssey4meIIRC jmccrory worked on that16:32
asettlejmccrory: update?16:33
logan-i'm hoping to get my dev cluster M->N by end of month so no input on that one from me yet16:34
asettleOKay, thanks logan- - I'll leave that one open then16:34
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asettle@odyssey4me I have another you're assigned to. Update?16:34
asettle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/16:34
asettleDAMNIT16:34
asettlehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/gate-split16:34
asettleI am so bad at this whole computer thing today16:34
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* asettle looks at the abandoned channel16:36
asettleGUYS16:36
andymccrhaha16:37
andymccri think the best approach16:37
andymccris16:37
logan-the ceph job uses a lot of foundational work from that but the bp itself is not ready to close. not much motivation to keep it moving along right now because it seems like we're doing good on gate times16:37
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andymccrleave the blueprints for now, we need to audit them, which doesnt necessarily need to be done now.16:37
asettleThanks logan- :)16:37
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andymccri'll spend some time after next week pruning some of those and seeing what is/isnt meant to still be there16:37
andymccrthen we can follow up16:37
asettleSounds like a plan andymccr :)16:38
asettleOkay, well, since you've all decided to return to your daily lives and this has become a dead zone. I'm calling it unless people have reviews16:38
asettle#topic Open discussion and 'please review my patch' time16:38
odyssey4meyeah, the gate split foundational work is actually done16:38
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odyssey4meit is now possible to have multiple scenarios16:38
odyssey4methe ceph job is the first to use it16:38
asettleYou have got to be joking odyssey4me you have outrageously lame timing :p16:38
asettleodyssey4me: should we close?16:39
odyssey4mebut yeah, andymccr we should probably chat about whether it needs to continue on from there is stay as-is16:39
andymccryeah i think thats one that probably needs more conversation in general16:39
odyssey4methe urgency to actually split it is gone16:39
andymccrbut a lot of those are finished/done16:39
andymccrso yeah16:39
asettleThat's good :)16:39
asettleokay, well, andymccr that's in your hands for now16:39
andymccri'll add it to my post release check list16:40
asettleI'll leave this open for 5 more minutes in case anyone has anything left before I close us out :)16:40
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andymccrcan we get reviews on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422698/16:40
andymccrits causing the integrated build to break16:40
asettle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422698/16:41
andymccras well as some role gates (ironic for example)16:41
odyssey4medone16:41
andymccrthanks!16:41
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asettleAnyone else with some reviews? :)16:42
asettleevrardjp: ;)16:42
evrardjpahah not this time. I used it during "should appear in next release" :)16:42
asettleCool :) well, I'm just about good to close16:43
asettleandymccr: all good in the hood>?16:43
evrardjpthanks everyone!16:43
andymccrasettle: one more gif for the road?16:43
asettleIt's liek you knew I was waiting16:43
asettlehttp://31.media.tumblr.com/e252577812e9094520e44124f6b66b48/tumblr_ml07jxD1J31r1mr1po1_500.gif16:43
asettle#worthit16:43
asettle#endmeeting16:43
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