Monday, 2017-05-15

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oanson#startmeeting dragonflow09:00
openstackMeeting started Mon May 15 09:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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oansonHello.09:00
lihiHi09:00
oansonWho's here for the Dragonflow weekly?09:00
irenabhi09:00
dimak_Good morning09:00
irenabdimak_, still jetlag-ed?09:00
dimak_Might be09:01
oansonWe'll wait another minute for nick-ma and xiaohhui, and then we'll begin09:01
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oanson#info lihi irenab dimak_ in meeting09:02
oansonLet's begin09:02
oansonMaybe with an update from the summit. irenab, dimak_?09:02
dimak_Sure09:02
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dimak_We spoke with neutron folks about the distributed SNAT for ref implementation09:03
dimak_They seem to come up with similar requirements as ours09:03
dimak_so we proposed looking at DF's SNAT09:04
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dimak_We should follow up on that in one of their meetings09:04
oansonSure. Any idea what they plan to do?09:04
oansonDid they reach any conclusions?09:04
dimak_I have the etherpad somewhere09:04
oansonThis one? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/boston-dvr09:05
dimak_Yeah09:05
irenabdeployment seems to be a focus for many projects, there are trends to deploy openstack projects in Containers to be managed by k8s. We need to chekc openstack-helm to add support for dragonflow09:06
dimak_Yeah, helm was really popular09:06
oansonAll right. What provisioning do they use?09:06
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irenabhttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm09:07
oansonNeutron's team meeting is tonight at09:07
oansonNeutron's team meeting is tonight at 2100 UTC09:07
oansonNeutron L3 meeting is on Thursday 15:00 UTC.09:08
dimak_Ok, is there a wiki with agenda for each?09:08
oansonYes.09:08
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oansonI don't know if I can make it on Thursday09:09
oansonBut I should be able to make it tonight. dimak_, you'll join as well?09:10
dimak_Yeah09:10
oansonopenstack-helm - do you know how they provision the machines? Ansible, puppet, chef?09:11
dimak_Umm09:11
irenabI do not know, something to check09:11
oansonSure. Any volunteers?09:12
dimak_I'll take a look09:12
oansonThanks.09:12
oansonAnything else from the summit?09:12
irenabdevs were missing in general09:13
dimak_Not really I think09:13
oansonYes, no doubt quarantining the devs is a good idea09:13
oansonI remember once asking a woman at one of the stands in the marketplace a question, and she looked to the developer on site: 'Igor, help me, the geeks are talking to me...'09:14
irenab:-)09:14
lihi:D09:14
oansonShall we move on to the roadmap update?09:14
irenabyes09:14
oanson#topic Roadmap09:15
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oansonIPv6 - lihi?09:15
lihiI need to add the tests to the patch, and rearrange the code a bit, but that's it for the portsec09:16
lihino major changes like the secgroups09:16
lihiI just wanted to make sure all the regular tests are still running09:17
lihi(and succeeding )09:17
oansonSure09:17
irenaboanson, does it mean tempest should be back to live?09:18
oansonNo09:18
oansontempest is very broken. It needs a major drill-down to fix09:18
oansonWe need a volunteer to pick it apart and fix it09:18
oansonAnything else on IPv6?09:19
lihiNo09:19
oansonSFC - dimak_ ?09:19
dimak_Its pretty stuck with the refactor09:19
oansonI'll rebase the lport and vlan patches tonight or tomorrow, but I think you can already rebase on top of them and update your patches09:20
dimak_Aside from dealing with the jetlag, I'm trying to see what makes lport migration so hard09:20
oansonIf you could tell me, I'd be happy for a hint :)09:21
dimak_I can rebase but would the tests run?09:21
oansonI think it's almost ready. There was only a minor issue left last week, but I didn't have a chance to look at it09:21
oansonThey should09:21
oansonThere are only a couple of fullstack tests failing09:21
oanson(or were, before the merge conflict)09:21
dimak_Ok, I've reviewed the patches under lport migration09:22
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oansonYes - sorry it's so big. I don't think it could be broken down :(09:22
oansonIs this the only thing blocking you on SFC?09:22
dimak_It's ok I'm halfway through09:22
dimak_Well I had some comments few weeks ago, need to check if they got replied :)09:23
oansonlihi, irenab, please also review the lport migration patch. I know it's long and boring, but it's also very error-prone, and once it's done we can breathe free :)09:23
irenaboanson, can you please post a link?09:24
lihiI'm working on it :)09:24
oansondimak_, if they haven't, please bump them, so they won't get missed09:24
dimak_oanson, sure09:24
oansonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/447366/09:24
oansonirenab, ^^^^09:24
dimak_Also once lport is in, the rest of the model migrations are much smaller :)09:24
irenabok09:24
oansonYes. lport is definitely the biggest, most problematic one.09:24
oansonWhich is why it's also taking so long :(09:25
irenabyes, it has impact on most of the services09:25
oansonOnce it's done, I want to remove the special handling for logical port in the df-controller09:25
dimak_We should also revamp nb_api to be more of an API part, and less of a dispatcher for the local controller09:26
dimak_because we use it outside local controller as well09:26
oansonYes.09:26
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oansonWe should create an 'event handler' API, which the df-controller (and the bgp-service, and other services) implement09:27
irenabOnce refactor is over, we can build on top of the data model09:27
oansonirenab, can you explain?09:28
irenabadd different services, such as notification, event handlers09:28
irenabaligned with waht you and dimak_ said09:29
oansonYes.09:29
oansonIncluding higher-level events, such as when a logical port is matched with an OVS port09:30
oansonLooks like we're all in agreement. Just have to get the lport thing working09:30
oansondimak_, are you free enough to help me debug the few fullstacks that are failing?09:31
dimak_Yeah09:31
oansonMaybe we'll be able to get it along :)09:31
oansonAlright, so I'll try to rebase it once the meeting is over.09:31
dimak_Great09:31
oansonThis covers SFC, and NB API refactor09:31
oansonNo update on Chassis health. Sorry :(09:31
oansonVLAN over VMs is stalled by the lport refactor. However, I did manage to test the feature and see that it works.09:32
oansonI'll rebase it too09:32
oansonBGP was merged.09:32
oansonThere is a fix to the unit tests. I'd be happy if y'all could look at it so it could be merged. Link coming in a second09:32
oansonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/464334/09:33
oansondimak_, lihi, if you +1 it, I'll fast-forward it09:33
dimak_Will take a look09:33
irenabI had to disable BGP service by deafult in devstack, so if required, it should be enabled09:33
lihiI'll look at it09:33
oansonirenab, I think that's all right - at least for now09:34
oansonThat's it for roadmap updates, I think.09:35
oansonAnyone have anything to bring up?09:35
oansonAh, irenab, are you testing the Vlan aware VMs patch on your scenario?09:35
irenaboanson, not yet. Waiting for rebase you promised09:36
oansonSure09:36
oansonAnything else for roadmap?09:36
oanson#topic Open Discussion09:37
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oansonAnyone wants the floor?09:37
oansonGrade A, virtualium floor.09:37
oansonSecond hand, but *very* good shape!09:38
lihiDoes it comes with Pizza?09:38
oansonI'm practically giving it away!09:38
oansonBut no. Pizza's extra09:38
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oansonSuite yourselves.09:38
oansonThanks everyone for coming.09:39
dimak_Bye09:39
lihithank you09:39
oanson#endmeeting09:39
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon May 15 14:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:00
apuimedoWelcome to the post Summit weekly irc meeting14:00
apuimedowho's here today?14:00
vikasco/14:01
garylougo/14:01
irenabhi14:01
kzaitsev_ws\o14:01
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limaoo/14:01
apuimedoltomasbo and dmellado have public holidays today14:01
ivc_o/14:01
apuimedoalright. Let's get started!14:02
apuimedothanks all for joining14:02
apuimedo#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:02
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apuimedowe have nothing in flight for kuryr-libnetwokr14:02
kzaitsev_wsI've updated the uwsgi patch btw14:03
apuimedothe libnetwork2 patches got merged14:03
apuimedooh right14:03
apuimedo:P14:03
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kzaitsev_wsalso will try to find some time to get the thing running under apache in devstack by default =)14:03
kzaitsev_wsand that should conclude the bp and pike goal )14:03
apuimedomod_wsgi is a bit slow :P14:04
apuimedogreat14:04
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apuimedokzaitsev_ws: IIRC there were some issues with the multithread setting in wsgi14:04
apuimedobut I don't remember the details :/14:04
apuimedoirenab: limao: please, take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374315/14:04
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irenabsure14:05
limaoyes14:05
apuimedo#info close to adding wsgi support and thus making one of Pike's community goals14:05
kzaitsev_wswe can always make the thing configurable and if we merge it in the middle of the cycle someone might complain in time14:05
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-libnetowrk?14:05
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: good point14:05
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limaoI would plan to do some scale test about boot docker with kuryr-libnetwork since I can control some vm resource in my local lab, currently, I would to see what's the performance it would looks like with 10K containers in 100vms14:07
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apuimedolimao: that would be great14:07
apuimedothe best scale testing to date14:07
apuimedo:-)14:07
limaoI'm not sure if anyone has did similar test or has some idea about this14:07
irenablimao: do you have some refenrece numbers for native docker network?14:07
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apuimedolimao: bare metal or on VMs?14:08
limaoirenab: I think I can do same test in same env with native docker network14:08
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irenablimao: this will be great, so we can see the comparison14:08
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limaoapuimedo: I think I will test in nested vms14:09
limaoapuimedo: I do not have 100 bare servers :-)14:09
apuimedocool!14:09
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irenabyou can run in VMs, but not use trunk portd14:10
apuimedoirenab: can you make a few #info points of the summary14:10
apuimedo#chair irenab14:10
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo irenab14:10
apuimedoI need to step off for 4 minutes14:10
limaoapuimedo: irenab: I'd like work out some test case in the next week, and to see how it works.14:10
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irenabapuimedo: summit?14:10
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apuimedoyeah14:10
irenablimao: great14:10
irenab#info limao is about to add test cases for libnetwork and execute performance/scale tests14:11
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irenabquick summary of Os Boston summit14:11
irenabthere was quite interest in the kuryr project. Onboarding session was quite full14:12
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irenabFuxi seems to gain interest from the cinder folks14:12
apuimedoirenab: yes. it's a pity that hongbin is not around14:14
irenabWe presented the kuryr project update with plans for Pike/Queens and some rough agenda for Rocky14:14
apuimedoanyway, the gist of it is that there may be effort to join the golang cinder driver to fuxi14:14
apuimedoand have fuxi be golang14:14
irenablet me find a link to share14:14
apuimedowe'll see about that though14:14
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kzaitsev_wswow +)14:14
kzaitsev_wsabout the golang I mean14:14
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hongbino/14:15
apuimedohongbin: nice to see you :-)14:15
irenab#link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/project-update-kuryr14:15
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: there's also something intriguing that dims reported about some golang cni from they hyper.sh folks being submitted to openstack14:16
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apuimedowe'll have to be alert to that and check how it all fits14:16
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apuimedookay14:17
apuimedomoving to other kuryr-kubernetes things14:17
apuimedoI started working on the loadbalancer service type14:17
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apuimedoit will come with small additions to the service handler14:17
apuimedoand an external ip driver14:17
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apuimedobased on floating ip14:17
apuimedoso if somebody wants to add support for k8s externalip field14:18
apuimedothe same driver could be used14:18
irenabapuimedo: will it cover the clusterIP type getting external IP use case?14:18
apuimedoirenab: nope. The driver would serve, but I'm not implementing that14:18
apuimedoit would be probably 5 lines more only14:18
apuimedo:P14:18
irenabok14:18
irenabdo you have bp?14:18
apuimedonot yet14:19
irenabapuimedo: you should serve an example :-)14:19
apuimedobut I have it for the token support14:19
apuimedoirenab: I'll have the spec before I send the patch14:19
apuimedoI promise this time!14:19
apuimedoxD14:19
kzaitsev_wsI'm having an internal meeting about my sriov experiments tomorrow. would probably share the end result and would start drafting the bp/spec14:19
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: cool!14:19
apuimedoI haven't had the time to look at it14:20
apuimedoand unfortunately I think none of my servers has an sriov card atm14:20
kzaitsev_wsI don't expect all of you guys to like my design outright but =)14:20
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apuimedokzaitsev_ws: if need be, we'll have a design call ;-)14:20
kzaitsev_wsthere should be smth to start with )14:20
apuimedocool14:20
irenabkzaitsev_ws: no worries, we will have the review process14:21
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apuimedoof course!14:21
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apuimedoirenab: ivc_; kzaitsev_ws: vikasc: we should give another round to garyloug's macvlan patch14:21
irenabapuimedo: I already did this morning14:22
apuimedoIf you have something to discuss about it now, we can use 5 minutes of this meeting14:22
vikascwill do!14:22
apuimedothanks irenab !14:22
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kzaitsev_wsFor now — I've implemented a separate handler and a separate cni binary, that reuses a lot of code from kuryr-k8s and inherit's it's controll flow. In case the idea doesn't fit general direction it should be separatable into some sort of contrib folder and be pluggable.14:22
garylougthanks guys :-)14:22
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: That's a very failsafe approach14:23
apuimedowe should also give another round to ltomasbo's pool patches14:24
ivc_kzaitsev_ws apuimedo it should become much more pluggable once we get to cni daemon14:24
apuimedoport pooling is very important for the reference implementation in pike14:24
irenabapuimedo: I also reviewed them today, basically the main concern is lack of unit tests14:24
kzaitsev_wsI need start reviewing the hard patches too )14:24
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apuimedoI also wanted to propose work on being installable with kubeadm apply -f kuryr.yaml14:25
vikascapuimedo, +114:25
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apuimedoIf somebody wants to take this. Ping me and I can give some pointers14:26
irenabapuimedo: alternative to helm?14:26
apuimedoirenab: it's the main k8s installer14:26
apuimedowe'll also be collaborating with openstack-helm people for kuryr-k8s chart14:26
vikascapuimedo, i can take this.14:26
apuimedovikasc: very well14:27
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apuimedovikasc: do you have time to start this before Friday?14:27
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vikascapuimedo, yes, i can start anytime14:27
apuimedoright14:27
vikascapuimedo, i got some free cycles14:28
apuimedovikasc: so ping me tomorrow and I'll give you some details14:28
vikascapuimedo, sure.14:28
kzaitsev_wsivc_: any sneak peak on what a cni daemon would be? (like is there some document or a bp?)14:28
apuimedomaybe I'll have the bp ready14:28
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apuimedokzaitsev_ws: using oslo services14:28
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apuimedoit would bind to a socket file14:28
ivc_kzaitsev_ws we discussed it couple of times. prolly there's a videoconf link in ml14:28
apuimedoand it would run the pod event handlers14:28
apuimedothen the kuryr cni exec just connects to the socket and writes the requests14:29
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irenabapuimedo: we need bp with list of points14:29
apuimedopoints?14:29
irenabbasic direction in points14:29
apuimedooh! Right!14:29
apuimedook!14:29
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irenabivc_: did you start working on it?14:30
apuimedoI'll have BPs for all these stuff this week14:30
kzaitsev_wsbp all the things!!! =)14:30
apuimedoindeed14:30
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ivc_irenab nope14:30
apuimedoivc_: I do not remember what was the reason exactly, but I had the urge of proposing the cni split had the daemon only watching and returning data and then the executable performing the NET_ADMIN actions14:31
apuimedomaybe it was to have the daemon container not need to be privileged14:32
ivc_apuimedo i'd prefer daemon to do the job. don't forget about pyroute2 overhead14:32
apuimedobut since we do the baremetal binding in two steps...14:32
apuimedoivc_: oh, right!14:32
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-k8s?14:33
apuimedoivc_: oh, I found a bug deploying kube-dns related to services and endpoints14:33
kzaitsev_wsapuimedo: btw here is the project you were referring to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462453/14:33
apuimedoI'll try to dig it out by adding it to devstack optionally14:33
kzaitsev_wsat least thats what dims menthined in #sig-openstack14:34
ivc_apuimedo isnt kube-dns udp-based?14:34
kzaitsev_ws#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462453/14:34
dimsyep, that's the one14:34
apuimedoright14:34
apuimedoand the idea they have is to start cni/controller from scratch in golang inside openstack14:34
dimsthey seem to be coming in with empty repo, so we should engage quickly so they use what we have here14:34
kzaitsev_wsand here's their github https://github.com/hyperhq/kubestack14:34
dimskzaitsev_ws : they won't be importing that directly to openstack git repo14:35
kzaitsev_wsah, ok )14:35
apuimedodims: where's the answer to all those questions you sent them?14:35
dimsapuimedo : i haven't seen an answer yet, i met with "resouer" who was at the boston summit, was promised some write up to send around.14:36
apuimedodims: very well14:37
apuimedoat some point maybe there should be a meeting14:37
dimsapuimedo : ++ i requested them to find/engage with projects we have14:38
apuimedogood14:38
apuimedopengfei ni knows kuryr14:39
dimsresouer is Harry Zhang - https://github.com/resouer14:39
apuimedocool14:39
dimsthat's all i had :)14:40
apuimedothanks a lot dims14:40
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-k8s?14:40
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apuimedoalright14:42
apuimedo#topic fuxi14:42
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apuimedo#chair hongbin14:42
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo hongbin irenab14:42
hongbinhi14:42
hongbinsince last week is boston summit, i don't have too much to update14:42
hongbinthere are a few patches that need reviews as ususal :)14:42
hongbinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/461956/14:43
hongbinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/461212/14:43
hongbinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/454474/14:43
apuimedoLooking forward to the plugin api support :P14:43
hongbinapuimedo: plugin api?14:43
apuimedodocker plugin install kuryr/fuxi14:44
apuimedo:-)14:44
hongbinapuimedo: i see14:44
hongbinapuimedo: we have a bug to track that AFAIK14:44
kzaitsev_wsI need to add fuxi to my gerrit review dashboard...14:44
hongbinapuimedo: yes, it will be available soon, it si on my priority14:45
apuimedogreat hongbin!14:45
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apuimedoanything else hongbin ?14:45
hongbinapuimedo: that is all from me14:45
apuimedothanks hongbin14:45
apuimedoit was great to meet you again in the summit14:45
apuimedo#topic general14:45
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apuimedoI posted the demos and slides we did in the summit14:46
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apuimedoand there's also the recordings on the youtube channel14:46
irenabapuimedo: link?14:46
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apuimedoirenab: right14:46
apuimedo#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSskYvOZvY14:47
apuimedo#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFqfNZ3iBBg14:47
apuimedo#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOOAM06B39s&t=58s14:47
apuimedooops14:47
apuimedo#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOOAM06B39s14:47
apuimedo#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6veNkVIAQfs14:47
apuimedo#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZD0rJjgAo14:48
kzaitsev_wsand could you pls share the slides somewhere too? =)14:48
apuimedo#link https://www.slideshare.net/celebdor/kuryr-kubernetes-the-seamless-path-to-adding-pods-to-your-datacenter-networking14:49
apuimedo#link https://www.slideshare.net/celebdor/openstack-boston-summit-kuryr-project-updates14:49
apuimedo#link https://www.slideshare.net/celebdor/kuryr-fuxi-openstack-networking-and-storage-for-docker-swarm-containers14:49
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apuimedokzaitsev_ws: there you go ^^14:49
kzaitsev_wsawesome, thanks =)14:49
apuimedo:-)14:49
apuimedothere's also the onboarding slides, but I think we'll keep those on demand14:50
apuimedoor when new people show up in the channel :P14:50
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apuimedothat's all from me today14:50
apuimedoanything else anybody?14:50
irenabnope14:51
apuimedooh yea. In case somebody needs to do kuryr with pod/container in VM, you can take a look at https://github.com/danielmellado/kuryr_heat14:51
apuimedo#link https://github.com/danielmellado/kuryr_heat14:52
apuimedoprobably that can be a base for magnum support14:52
apuimedooh, only for trunk mode pod-in-vm14:52
apuimedomacvlan and ipvlan obviously don't need the trunking14:52
apuimedook. Thank you all for joining!14:54
apuimedo#endmeeting14:54
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thedacAgenda for charms meeting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-2017051517:00
thedacI'll start it momentarily17:00
thedaco/17:01
thedac#startmeeting charms17:01
openstackMeeting started Mon May 15 17:01:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is thedac. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'17:01
thedac#topic17:02
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thedac#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting17:02
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thedacNot sure if Dmitrii-Sh is here but he had: "17:02
thedacDmitrii-Sh track the network-binding not being able to be changed after deploy/add-unit."17:02
thedacAnyone with an update for that?17:02
coreycbo/17:03
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thedacok, moving on17:03
thedac#topic State of Development for next Charm Release17:03
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thedactinwood: any update on next Ubuntu release will be an 'a' (coming after z) -- still landing the alpha comparison changes to the charms.17:03
thedacHow many are left?17:03
tinwoodthedac, so ...17:04
tinwoodall of the non-reactive charms are done.17:04
tinwood... and charms.openstack is done.17:04
jamespageo/17:04
tinwood... so in theory, all of the reactive charms are done too!17:04
jamespagesorry I'm late17:04
thedacSo we just need rebuilds of the reactive charms?17:04
thedachey, jamespage17:04
tinwoodthedac, yup.  I've checked them all, and they don't do anything weird, so they should be okay.17:05
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tinwoodI figured they would be picked up with any new changes./17:05
thedacGreat so we can remove that one from the list17:05
thedacI have 3 remaining zesty amulet changes to go that have unique snoflake issues: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:zesty-ocata+is:open17:05
wolseno/17:05
thedacHi wolsen17:06
wolsenhi thedac, apologies for the tardiness17:06
thedacwolsen: want to give us an update on the DNS progress?17:06
tinwoodthe 'a' is 'artful' AFAIK17:06
jamespageit is17:06
wolsenthedac: the code has been tested and there are several reviews ready for input - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:charms-internal-dns17:07
thedacgreat, thank you17:07
wolsentodo are still mojo specs and amulet tests17:07
thedacThe other point for state of development is our focus on getting snap deployed openstack into the charms17:08
thedacAny other updates for State of development?17:08
jamespageprob worth updating on specs17:08
jamespagewe don't currently have anyone working on the openstack loadbalancer implementation17:09
wolsenboy that sure would be a great feature to have as well17:09
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jamespagewolsen: yeah - kinda the problem here - its all high, higher, highest :-)17:09
wolsenjamespage: I'm aware :)17:09
jamespagelol17:10
tinwood(got to give the cat a tablet - back in 2 mins)17:10
thedacok moving onto bugs17:10
thedac#topic High Priority Bugs17:10
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thedac#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs17:10
thedacAny particular bugs to highlight?17:10
wolsenI'm ill prepared to list the specific ones, but I know there's a couple that are key for some stable backports17:11
* tinwood is back17:11
thedacjamespages has prepeared a tag for backports http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports17:12
thedacjamespage even17:12
thedacwolsen: pleas add any bugs you are aware of with that tag17:12
wolsenyes, will visit bugs and apply them appropriately17:12
jamespageyes - as we're going to release a little less frequently, please tag anything targetted for stable-backport with the tag of the same name17:13
thedacMoving on17:13
thedac#topic OpenStack Events17:13
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thedacAny events on the horizon?17:13
tinwoodIs there going to be a PTG?17:14
thedacYes, in September if I am not mistaken17:14
thedacno info on the web page that I can find17:15
thedacOther events?17:15
thedac...17:15
thedacOk moving on17:15
thedac#topic Open Discussion17:15
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thedacThe floor is open17:16
tinwoodmoving mocks: may I?17:16
thedac+1 to optimizing mocks17:16
wolsen+117:16
tinwoodSo, I'd like to move mocks from reactive charm's unit_tests/__init__.py to charms.reactive to centralise them17:16
wolsenso the mock is moved away from the actual test?17:17
tinwoodWhich means 'testy code' in the library (but there's already test code in the published library)17:17
tinwoodwolsen, you'd still have to import them, (probably in the __init__.py)17:18
tinwood... but updates to them could be central for code in charms.openstack that rely on charmhelpers.17:18
tinwoodAnd the example is ch.c.o.u.OPENSTACK_RELEASES17:18
tinwoodwhich is going to break every reactive charm's unit tests (I've just discovered) that relies on charms.openstack17:19
* tinwood is sorry17:19
thedac:)17:19
wolsenyeah, I see where the advantages are in doing that17:19
wolsentinwood: you can make it up to all of us with videos of your cat playing on the ipad17:19
tinwood:)17:19
tinwoodI'll raise a bug on the reactive charms I know about, and then get them fixed.17:20
thedacAny other open discussion items? non-cat related ;)17:20
tinwoodassuming we are okay with it.17:20
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wolsenso question on the designate charm17:21
wolsen(maybe this is wrong forum)17:21
wolsenbut was it intention to not relate to neutron-api?17:21
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thedacGood question. gnuoy is not here to answer.17:21
wolsenI can take over to #openstack-charms if prepared17:21
wolsenerr if preferred*17:21
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thedacYeah, let's have that discussion there17:22
wolsenok17:22
thedacLast call for open discussion items?17:22
tinwoodNot from me17:22
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wolsennone here17:22
thedacok17:22
thedac#topic Next Chair17:22
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thedacEtherpad says jamespage is up next17:23
thedac#endmeeting17:23
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tinwoodthanks thedac17:23
thedacThanks all17:23
wolsenthanks thedac17:24
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jamespagethanks thedac17:26
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