Tuesday, 2017-05-16

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yushirohi13:59
reedip_yo13:59
yushiro#startmeeting fwaas14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 16 14:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fwaas'14:00
xgermano/14:00
yushiro#chair SridarK yushiro xgerman njohnston14:00
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: SridarK14:00
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openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro14:00
hoangcxo/14:01
yushiroSridarK is not here.  OK, let's start.14:01
xgermanyep, let’s start14:01
yushiro#topic Pike14:01
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reedip_yushiro : Reference page is the same ?14:02
xgermanoh, let’s talk summit at the end then14:02
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reedip_https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-meeting ??14:02
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SridarKHi All sorry to be late14:02
xgerman#chair SridarK_14:02
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openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK SridarK_ njohnston xgerman yushiro14:02
reedip_there is no Sridark  .... :)14:02
yushiroreedip_, yes,14:02
yushiroSridarK, Hi, good timing :)14:03
xgerman+!14:03
SridarKsorry14:03
SridarKi forget who is to run today ?14:03
SridarK*run the mtg14:03
yushiroSridarK, xgerman I forgot :)14:03
xgermanme, too14:03
SridarK:-)14:04
SridarKcan one of u run today ?14:04
xgermansure14:04
SridarKand we can start the sched with that14:04
SridarKi am multitasking14:04
xgermanwho isn’t those days :-)14:04
yushiroCurrently I just moved 'Pike' topic.14:04
SridarK:-)14:04
xgermanok, let’s talk Pike - summit at the end14:05
SridarKsounds good14:05
yushiroyes, please.14:05
SridarKalso we will be missing chandanc and SarathMekala today14:05
SridarKchandanc is probab on a plane headed back14:05
SridarKSarathMekala had a conflict14:05
SridarKso possibly we can run thru quickly14:06
SridarKreedip_: welcome back and congrats again14:06
reedip_SridarK : Yesp and I missed you guys too :D14:06
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SridarK:-)14:06
yushiroreedip_, meeee tooo :)14:06
xgerman+114:06
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xgermanOk, so where are we with Pike?14:08
xgermanWe decided a few things:14:08
xgerman- two RPC topics -> L2, L314:08
SridarKwhich we debugged for the demo :-14:09
SridarK:-)14:09
reedip_How was the demo ? Any videos on youtube?14:09
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xgermanyep, we have a video14:09
SridarKreedip_: went well, we can discuss on that topic14:09
reedip_k great14:10
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xgerman#decision to focus on L2 without SG co-exiatsnce for now14:10
xgermanI don’t think with the summit we made much progress (other than that we got it to work)14:12
SridarKyes we were defn busy with multiple things14:13
SridarKbut according to chandanc things are in decent shape14:13
SridarKon the ovs transition14:14
SridarKand target for Pike-214:14
yushiroyes14:15
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xgerman+114:19
xgermananyhting else on that topic?14:19
SridarKno i think thats all, with that and L2 Agent, DFWG changes we should be good14:20
SridarKthings do work - but some bugs and focus on UT needed14:20
yushiroSridarK, indeed.14:20
xgerman#topic FWaaS v214:22
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xgermanI don’t think we have much to add what we didn;t already discuss in Pike14:22
SridarK+114:23
yushiroxgerman, yes.  I should fix some minor bug about FirewallGroupPortAssociation control.14:23
reedip_DId we drop the mail to deprecate fwaas V1 ?14:23
xgermanit’s been deprecated for years14:24
reedip_xgerman : you got what I meant :)14:24
yushiroI'll update L2 agent patch tomorrow.(Now editting a little)14:24
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xgermanyep, we announced at summit - e-mail is still outstanding14:24
xgermanwe also had people ask us about migration strategy14:24
reedip_xgerman  : and the response ?14:25
SridarKyes we had a good discussion with some operators14:25
SridarKthey would like to see some help with the migration from v1 to v214:26
SridarKthere was a neutron services pain points session14:26
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SridarKso tentatively the plan is to see if we can help them with some scripts to migrate14:26
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SridarK_not_ anything in terms of alembic but rather bash scripts14:27
yushirowe've just been suggested to provide migration 'script' at that time.14:28
xgermanyeah, they don’t like to recreate the FW; there is even an operator with a ton of FWaaS V1 firewalls and he is very keen on the migration scripts14:28
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xgermanbut I think before we announce it officially we need to have more ducks in a row14:29
xgermanbecause operators are quick with complaining on a ML14:30
reedip_So I think this is something we need to track , fwaasv1 migration to v214:30
SridarK+1 in our discussion - we said we will help with scripts - i think they are fine with any help14:31
yushiro+1+114:31
xgermanwe don’t think FWaaS V1 and V2 can run on the same system so we need to have a migration strategy which doesn’t exposes the network…14:31
SridarKbut to xgerman - u are absolutely right we dont want to land up in a messy situation14:31
xgermanyep, we should aim to have an announcement before the Pike release…14:32
reedip_ok, lets discuss it on the fwaas channel/email/ML14:32
reedip_yushiro /xgerman/SridarK : care to put out an action for this item"14:32
reedip_??14:32
xgerman#action investigate FWaaS V1 -> V2 migration strategy14:33
SridarKi will start a conversation with the operator14:33
yushiroxgerman, reedip_ thanks :)14:33
SridarKwho brought it up14:33
xgermanthanks14:33
SridarKi will have u guys in the cc14:33
reedip_Yeah  :)14:33
yushiroyes, sounds good.14:33
SridarKhe mentioned they have a customer who is using it a lot14:33
SridarKand they are quite happy14:33
SridarKso that was the good news14:34
reedip_:)14:35
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xgermanindeed14:36
xgerman#topic Stadium Compliance14:36
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xgermankevinb had a comment on our fullstack regarding us setting up a “test-gate”14:37
reedip_Yeah, the one thing I was asking14:39
reedip_was confused by the points14:39
xgermanok, probably best to ask in the Neutron channel somebody who knows gates better than me14:42
xgerman#topic performance improvement14:42
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xgermanThere was some discussion if we can backport to Ocata or not14:42
cuongnvand what we got xgerman?14:43
xgermanwell, none of us has +2 on the old branches so we need to convicne the Neutron people14:45
cuongnvI see..14:46
reedip_hmm...14:46
cuongnvxgerman, maybe i misunderstood, did you mean you had some discussion about the backport in Boston?14:47
cuongnvor comment of Ihar on this ps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458434/14:47
xgermanyeah, I am referring to that comment14:47
cuongnvokay14:47
xgermanI didn’t discuss but maybe the others had a chance…14:47
cuongnvI also replied what I and hoangcx discussed14:48
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cuongnvatm, i don't see any feedback from Ihar yet, let us try to ping him again14:49
cuongnvwe are also investigating solution for v2 and SG in neutron14:50
cuongnvwe will update later14:50
cuongnvthat's it for perf improvement14:50
cuongnvif no one has any comment, we can move on14:52
reedip_< 10 minutes left14:52
xgermanok, sounds good14:52
xgerman#action cuongnv ping ihar about backport14:53
xgerman#topic Summit14:53
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vks1hi folks14:53
xgermanhi14:53
SridarKhi14:53
vks1sorry I missed this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458723/14:53
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vks1please review this14:54
SridarKTalk and demo went well - some good discussions post talk as well14:54
xgermank14:54
reedip_aah, I was thinking about this vks1 , this needs to be tested once. I will test it tomorrow morning and get back to u14:54
yushirovks1, sure14:54
vks1thanks14:54
xgerman#link https://youtu.be/9Wkym4BeM4M14:55
xgermanthat’s the talk video14:55
xgermanwe also had a meeting and have a photo14:56
yushiro:)14:56
SridarK:-)14:57
reedip_sheesh , missed14:57
yushiroI will practice to speak English :-)14:57
reedip_guys, as its almost time, I raised a request in the neutron-fwaas channel14:57
SridarKreedip_: like u did not have something better to do14:57
reedip_if someone has some time, please provide me some advice14:57
reedip_SridarK : no comments ... she is behind me!14:58
SridarKreedip_: sorry can u shoot me an email - i have to run to another mtg and will be offline for some time during the day14:58
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reedip_SridarK : for the patch, I will, no issues14:59
yushiroreedip_, sure14:59
xgerman1 minute14:59
reedip_thanks a lot for the time.. its been a long time since I attended the meeting... feels good to be back14:59
xgermanglad to have you back ;-)14:59
reedip_:)15:00
reedip_time's up15:00
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yushiroseee youuu15:00
cuongnvbye all15:00
SridarKbye all15:00
SridarKhave a great week15:00
yushiro#endmeeting15:00
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 16 17:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification'17:00
gibihi17:00
mriedemhi17:00
gibimriedem: hi17:00
gibiIt seems it is again just two of us17:01
gibianyhow17:01
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mriedemand i've been gone for awhile17:01
gibilast week I cancelled the meeting17:01
gibiso you didn't miss anything :)17:02
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gibiI think I managed to summarize the notification tasks state in my weekly mail yesterday http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116662.html17:02
gibiso I just want to highlight that both keypair and BDM in instance notification is ready to be reviewed17:03
mriedemok i think i was planning on getting back to the series where you split out the instance.create payload17:03
mriedemfor keypairs17:03
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mriedemjust hadn't gotten back into the swing of reviews yet since the summit17:03
gibihttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight+status:open17:03
gibiinstance.create is now split17:04
gibiboth for the keypair and for the tags17:04
gibibut the tags patch needs more work17:04
gibibesides that I managed to hand roll a minimal json ref implementation for17:05
gibihttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:refactor-notification-samples17:05
gibiit is less than 50 lines17:05
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mriedemok17:06
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mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/452820/6/doc/notification_samples/instance-pause-end.json ?17:07
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gibithat seems like a mistak :)17:07
gibiwe only need the second payload key17:08
gibiit seems json parser allows duplicated keys17:08
gibithis is why the test didn't failed17:09
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mriedemok17:09
mriedemi wonder if there is a way to use jsonschema validation to detect duplicate keys?17:10
gibiI will look into that17:10
gibiit all depends on the jsonschema and json libs17:10
gibimaybe even the json lib can be configured for stricter check17:10
mriedemhttp://deron.meranda.us/python/demjson/17:11
mriedemjsonlint i guess17:11
mriedemduplicate keys is valid json17:11
mriedemso jsonschema validation doesn't fail on it17:11
mriedemoo https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L36117:11
mriedemalready available in g-r17:11
mriedemso we could use it17:12
gibicool17:12
gibiI will spin up a separate patch to use that17:12
gibimaybe a combination with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443677/17:12
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gibianyhow thanks for the tips17:13
gibithese were the two highlight I wanted to mention17:14
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gibithe weekly mail has some additional goods top of this17:14
gibiwas there any notification related discussion in Boston I should know about?17:14
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mriedemno one is using versioned notifications yet17:15
mriedemsome people are running with notifications in general,17:15
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mriedembut have to turn them down because of how frequent they are17:15
mriedemlike the instance.exists ones17:16
mriedemklindgren from godaddy commented on that17:16
mriedemwe told him to open a bug17:16
mriedemthe searchlight integration stuff is taking a bit of a turn, as in we might explore less invasive changes to the api before integrating with searchlight,17:16
mriedemthat was all very hand wavey though17:16
gibiI saw a patch about this turn of direction. Searchlight could be a second step for big deployers17:17
gibiI will keep an eye on the instance.exists bug, I guess we could add a config option to change the frequency17:18
mriedemthere is already a config for that i think17:18
mriedemit's a periodic17:19
mriedemwhat we talked about was doing a queue thing like the heal_instance_info periodic17:19
mriedemwhere we get all of the instances, put them in a queue, but only process 1 per iteration (1 minute by default)17:19
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mriedemi think the issue was the size of the payload (with the frequency)17:19
mriedemwas killing rpc17:19
mriedemnectar said they run notifications on a separate message bus17:19
mriedemwhich is probably smart17:20
gibiso we either decrease the frequence (can be with the queue) or we decrease the payload size. We can do the later with a really small payload like a singel instance.uuid17:20
mriedemwell, the payload would decrease if you only send 1 instance17:21
mriedeminstead of a list17:21
mriedembut i haven't dug into it17:21
mriedemor seen a bug yet17:21
gibiOK, I will look into this with the bug17:22
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gibiif there is nothing else then I have one more thing17:23
mriedemok17:23
gibiI will be on paid time off in the next two weeks17:23
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gibiso most I'm planning to cancel the next two meetings17:23
gibiif that is OK17:23
gibiso the next meeting I'm planning is on 6th of June17:24
mriedemworks for me17:25
mriedemenjoy the time off17:25
gibithanks. I will have wedding to attend ;)17:25
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gibithis week I'm still fully here but then see you on 6th of June17:26
gibithanks for the meeting!17:26
mriedemnp, ttyl17:26
gibi#endmeeting17:26
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