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rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 29 14:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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rosmaitahello everyone14:00
abhishekkhi14:00
abhishekko/14:00
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rosmaitahi abhishekk, nice work on that download bug14:01
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rosmaitapretty sure i saw mfedosin and jokke_ online14:01
mfedosinI'm here14:01
abhishekkrosmaita: thank you, I have couple of questions about it14:01
mfedosinhi!14:01
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rosmaita\o14:02
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mfedosinwhat bug?14:02
rosmaitaitem 2 on the agenda14:02
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:02
rosmaitaok, guess we should get started14:03
rosmaita#topic updates14:03
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rosmaitalife stuff forced me to take a week off, so i have been off irc and not read the ML ... anything i need to know about?14:03
abhishekkno update other than nikhil has decided to hang is boots14:04
rosmaitabummer14:04
jokke_o/14:05
abhishekkand regarding tempest/glance store issue ghansham has submitted one patch14:05
jokke_sorry for being bit late14:05
rosmaitajokke_: np14:05
mfedosinjokke_: hi :)14:05
rosmaitaabhishekk was just getting me caught up on the last week's events14:05
rosmaitaok, i will adjust the core list later this afternoon to reflect nikhil's departure14:06
rosmaitaand i will let jokke_ decide about whether ghansham's patch is sufficient for the tempest/glance_store issue14:06
rosmaitaok, let's move to item 214:06
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rosmaita#topic glance image download error14:07
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rosmaita#link14:07
rosmaitaoops14:07
abhishekkregarding this bug, if Image size is 0 then we are getting it from cache14:07
rosmaita#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/168648814:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1686488 in Glance "glance image-download error" [High,In progress] - Assigned to jiaopengju (pj-jiao)14:07
abhishekkbut why we are not setting it to image?14:07
abhishekkif someone tries to download that image again then every time it will be fetched from cache14:08
rosmaitathis is when the image corresponds to a volume?14:09
abhishekkrosmaita: yes14:10
abhishekkinstance is booted from volume and someone takes snapshot then in glance image-size is set as 014:10
jokke_so quick question. Is this cache enabled only issue or where the actual issue is coming from if not?14:11
abhishekkjokke_: cache enabled issue I guess14:12
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jokke_that would be great. I just want to make sure we don't fix something in the cache that stays broken if the cache is disabled14:13
abhishekkjokke_:right14:14
abhishekkis it possible to create 0 size image?14:15
abhishekkI remember some discussions with nova team when v2 api was enabled14:16
rosmaitasorry, i was trying to track down something i remembered seeing, but this seems to be a different issue14:17
rosmaitabut here it is for reference:14:17
rosmaita#link https://answers.launchpad.net/glance/+question/63248614:17
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rosmaitadifferent case, the question is about an image that shouldn't be zero but is, not an image that should be zero14:18
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abhishekk#link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/glance.py#L38214:19
rosmaitaabhishekk: do you have any concerns about the patch?14:19
abhishekkno14:19
abhishekkonly thing is should we set that size to image permanently to avoid to fetch again?14:20
jokke_no14:21
rosmaitajokke_: tell us more14:22
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jokke_one should never set the original record based on cached data14:23
abhishekkthen its good to merge14:23
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jokke_lets say we get caching error that puts only half image into the cache and we set the image size to that based on invalid cache on one node. Now we suddenly have actual error in the records rather than this special case 0 size we know we need to deal with14:24
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rosmaitajokke_: good point, you have convinced me14:26
rosmaitaok, let's move on14:26
abhishekkwe can move ahead14:26
rosmaitacool, i have +2d the patch ... abhishekk is co-author, so someone else needs to do the +2A honors14:27
rosmaita#topic priorities for the week14:27
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rosmaitaon the agenda is dhellman's doc migration patches, but i think flavio approved them while we were talking14:28
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:doc-migration+is:open+(+project:openstack/glance+OR+project:openstack/python-glanceclient+OR+project:openstack/glance_store+)14:28
abhishekkyes14:28
rosmaitaso that's no longer a priority14:28
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rosmaitaany candidates?14:28
abhishekkprotected filter patch14:28
rosmaitathat would be good to get done14:29
abhishekkI have seen another strange issue on that patch for which I have earlier voted -2 but later changed it to -114:29
abhishekk#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449108/14:29
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rosmaitathat is a strange issue indeed14:30
abhishekkplease see my -2 comment, I am not able to guess why is that behaviour14:30
rosmaitai might go so far as to say wtf?14:30
abhishekkexactly14:31
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rosmaitaok, let's put it on the list and hopefully our combined brain power will come up with an answer14:32
rosmaitaanything else?14:33
jokke_I think bug scrub would be great14:33
rosmaitayes, it would14:33
jokke_at least I have been ignoring our open bugs for way too long time14:33
abhishekkyes14:34
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jokke_so if we don't have lots for priorities, lets make that priority14:34
rosmaitaok, i will put it on the list14:34
rosmaitathere is also a security bug that needs some follow up14:34
jokke_i it the one Fei Long was working on?14:35
rosmaitai think i will add abhishekk to that bug so we can get his opinion ... a lot of the glance-cores who are on that bug are no longer working on glance14:35
rosmaitajokke_: the same14:35
rosmaitaand mfedosin is familiar with it as well14:35
rosmaita:)14:35
rosmaitaok, let's move on14:36
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:36
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rosmaitamfedosin: you teased us about some news 2 weeks ago, and i forgot to remind you last week14:38
rosmaitaanything to share?14:38
mfedosinI run the risk of incurring the wrath of Erno, but want to say that we are applying under Big Tent14:38
mfedosintoday14:38
rosmaita"we" == ?14:38
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mfedosinGlare team :)14:38
rosmaitaahh, thought so14:39
jokke_wrath from me for that :o14:39
mfedosinToday we got a new guy from India14:39
mfedosinDevi14:39
jokke_I thought Glare was part of big tent14:39
rosmaitame too14:39
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mfedosinno, it wasn't14:39
mfedosinso, there are 3 full time developers now14:39
mfedosinand Geetika14:39
rosmaitanice14:40
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mfedosinthere were several production deployments of Glare14:40
mfedosin5 actually14:40
mfedosinso, we got and fixed several bugs :)14:40
rosmaitacool ... i assume they use a glare database independent of the glance db?14:41
rosmaita(just thinking about the glare-ectomy in Pike)14:41
rosmaita(we didn't include any kind of migrations)14:41
jokke_mfedosin: as you should know I'm not against Glare ... I'm against any short term plans/claims Glare replacing Glance ;)14:41
mfedosinIt's based on Ocata14:41
rosmaitaexcellent14:41
mfedosinso, we defined a list of tasks for next couple of months14:42
mfedosinhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H2R2UhkwHkNEFjtLYmXZsPXWIJ148SCP-WjMplnytD8/edit#gid=014:42
mfedosinSo far, everything is preliminary14:42
mfedosinDevi is not included there14:43
mfedosinjokke_: I'm against it too!14:43
mfedosinNo plans at all to replace glance in next couple of years14:43
rosmaitai'd suggest adding zero-downtime db migrations14:43
rosmaita(will be needed to replace glance :) )14:43
rosmaitaok, cool ... well, best wishes to the Glare team from the Glance team14:44
mfedosinI thought we already have them...14:44
mfedosinwe use alembic from the very beginning14:44
jokke_have more :)14:44
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mfedosinjokke_: lol, okay14:44
mfedosinso, I'll send an update today14:45
rosmaitagosh, you kids with your modern software development techniques14:45
rosmaitaalright, thanks for the news14:45
mfedosinmy pleasure :)14:45
rosmaitaanyone have anything else for open discussion?14:45
mfedosinthanks for listening14:45
mfedosinI have14:46
abhishekkall the best mfedosin14:46
mfedosinit's related my patch for trust support14:46
mfedosinwait a sec...14:46
mfedosin#link https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/trust_auth.py14:46
mfedosinppl from keystone told me that it looks ugly and many things were deprecated since it had been merged14:47
mfedosinso, I refactor this code a little bit, to follow the recommendations14:48
mfedosinTests are fine, I just need to write a commit message and push it on review14:48
mfedosin*I've refactored14:49
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jokke_looking forward for it14:50
rosmaitathat sounds like a good change14:50
rosmaitaanything else?14:51
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jokke_just fyi14:51
jokke_I merged the patch that was transations sync removing LC translations14:52
jokke_didn't wait for second review ... so revert and blame me if you don't agree :P14:52
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rosmaitajokke_: you don't happen to have a link?14:56
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jokke_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477085/14:57
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rosmaitaok, thanks14:58
jokke_was one of those automated bot syncs14:58
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rosmaitathat seems fine14:59
rosmaitaok, just about out of time ... thanks everyone!14:59
abhishekkthank you14:59
jokke_thanks14:59
rosmaita#endmeeting14:59
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 29 15:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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keerthivasanhi15:00
sjmc7hello!15:01
lei-zho/15:01
keerthivasanfacing few issues on node scheduling15:01
sjmc7?15:01
keerthivasanin ironic spinning 20 vm...scheduling happens for only 10 at a time ?15:01
sjmc7i don’t know much about ironic..15:02
keerthivasanonce ten completes, then remaming ten get scheduled15:02
keerthivasanany reason ?15:02
sjmc7i’ve no idea :)  this isn’t the ironic meeting15:02
keerthivasanok15:03
sjmc7try #openstack-ironic15:03
keerthivasan#startmeeting ironic15:04
openstackkeerthivasan: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.15:04
keerthivasan#endmeeting15:04
sjmc7keerthivasan: join the #openstack-ironic channel15:04
keerthivasan#startmeeting ironic15:04
openstackkeerthivasan: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.15:04
sjmc7this is a scheduled meeting for the searchlight project15:04
keerthivasanok15:04
keerthivasan#openstack-ironic15:05
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sjmc7‘/join #openstack-ironic’ without the quotes15:05
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lei-zhseems don't have too many people today15:06
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sjmc7nope :(  i’ve been caught up on keystone and horizon stuff all week so i didn’t have anything on the agenda15:06
lei-zhone thing about versioned notification patch15:07
lei-zhthe state_update comment15:07
keerthivasanthanks15:07
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sjmc7yeah15:08
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lei-zhI end up with a case15:08
lei-zhwhen I launch a vm successfully15:08
lei-zhI find there are two 'state' field in notification payload15:08
sjmc7oo, that’s exciting15:09
sjmc7are they the same?15:09
lei-zhthere's one top level field in the payload15:09
lei-zhwhich has value 'active'15:09
sjmc7that would be what preivously would have been ‘status’ i think15:10
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sjmc7ah, interesting. so has status gone completely? i missed that15:10
lei-zhand state_update field is empty, because it's a not a update action I think15:10
sjmc7you’re right - looking at https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/notifications.html for instance.update15:11
lei-zhthen your code will set payload['state'] = None15:11
sjmc7"state": "building",15:11
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sjmc7"task_state": "scheduling",15:11
lei-zhwhich overwrite original value in the payload15:11
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sjmc7yeah.. i misunderstood what you were saying. i think ‘state’ needs to map to ‘status'15:11
lei-zhlet me see15:12
sjmc7and ‘task_state’ is the one should be cleared15:12
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sjmc7maybe i can ignore the state_update entirely, if ‘state’ and ‘task_state’ are always there. old_state and old_task_state are used to decide whether an update can be ignored15:12
lei-zhyeah, I think 'state' means vm state15:14
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lei-zhand there is a 'task_state'15:14
sjmc7with the old notifications, ‘state’ was ‘status’15:14
lei-zhoh, kind of mess : )15:14
sjmc7ok, i totally missed that, good catch. sorry i misunderstood your comment15:14
lei-zhand they have a 'status', it's kind of combination of both vm state and task state15:15
lei-zh'status is more like user understandable description I think15:16
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sjmc7yep, and it’s more stable than task state15:17
lei-zhso after a server has been started, I end up with a server document whose 'state' is null, which is supposed to be 'active'15:17
sjmc7yeah, so ‘state’ shouldn’t be there at all15:17
sjmc7and ti should be ‘status'15:17
sjmc7which should never be null15:17
sjmc7‘state’ was previously mapped to ‘OS-EXT-STS:vm_state'15:18
lei-zhyeah, there is only 'status' in nova instance api15:18
sjmc7and task_state OS-EXT-STS:task_state15:19
lei-zhexactly15:19
sjmc7yeah, the API reports the OS-EXT-STS fields15:19
sjmc7it looks though like ‘state’ and ‘status’ aren’t the same values15:20
sjmc7‘status’ is/was ‘BUILD’ versus ‘state’ = ‘building’15:20
lei-zhyes, they are different15:20
lei-zhI think there is a mapping to do convert jobs15:20
lei-zhgive me vm state and task state and I'll return you a status, such like that15:21
sjmc7yeah. i’ll check with the nova team. that’s annoying15:21
lei-zhlots of concepts lol15:21
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sjmc7mm. stupid of me to miss that15:22
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lei-zhI just figure it out too : )15:23
lei-zhok, I don't have other issues15:24
sjmc7ok, i will correct that. me neither. there’s been a thread about the ‘big tent’ for the last week or so15:24
sjmc7it looks like the TC want to narrow down the definition of ‘what is openstack’ but not clear to what extent yet15:25
lei-zhoh, I missed that, are there any changes15:25
sjmc7i’ll keep an eye on it. no, not yet, it’s just discussion15:25
lei-zhI've heard a new name 'openstack hosted'15:26
sjmc7people are (rightfully) saying that it’s hard, especially for newcomers, to understand exactly what openstack is when there are 1600 projects, some of which aren’t very active15:26
sjmc7right15:26
sjmc7that’s part of it15:26
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lei-zh1600, gosh15:27
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sjmc7i don’t know much it matters practically, but i’ll keep watching the thread15:27
sjmc7ok, well, i guess might as well end here15:27
sjmc7have a good weekend! the US is on holiday monday and tuesday15:28
lei-zhcool15:28
lei-zhenjoy your time15:28
sjmc7will do! lots of bbq15:28
TravTi'm guessing that the big tent change also has to do with funding for infra jobs15:28
sjmc7yes, that’s a big part of it and that’s the part that might affect projects like ours15:29
lei-zhwhich means some projects have to move?15:30
sjmc7*shrug* don’t know. hopefully not!15:30
lei-zhok, have a nice day!15:31
sjmc7yup, you too15:31
sjmc7bye folks15:31
sjmc7#endmeeting15:31
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evrardjpo/16:00
spotz_Hey evrardjp!16:00
evrardjphey spotz_16:00
spotz_Aren't you still on vacation?16:00
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evrardjpI'm back16:00
spotz_welcome back:)16:00
mgariepyi'm here !16:00
mhaydenmeetin' time?16:00
evrardjpyup!16:00
spotz_close enough:)16:01
spotz_#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 29 16:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
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andymccryeah!16:01
spotz_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:01
spotz_#topic Roll Call16:01
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andymccro/16:01
spotz_He's only yeahing cause he has to run the meeting again next week while I'm showing the pony:)16:01
andymccrhahahaha16:01
mgariepy\o/16:01
andymccrTIL about horse motels :D16:01
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spotz_We'll give folks a minute or 2 to wander in. It's mainly the andymccr show though cloudnull is the first thing:)16:02
cloudnullo/16:02
spotz_sweet!:)16:02
cloudnullneither mhayden or i have worked on the spec, we're bad people.16:03
evrardjpo/16:03
spotz_#topic Previous Items - cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec16:03
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cloudnullnext topic16:03
spotz_now you have to repeat!:)16:03
mhaydenconfirmed, i'm turrible16:03
andymccrsigh16:03
andymccr:P16:03
andymccrwell16:03
andymccrlike i said16:04
andymccrmilestone 3 im gonna start ejecting stuff16:04
cloudnull:'(16:04
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spotz_Bad cloudnull and mhayden!16:04
mhaydens/ejecting/rejecting/16:04
andymccras we move to feature freeze, i might move it aside so you can re-imp16:04
andymccrmhayden: haha no actually taking the stuff that was alreadyc hanged and ejecting it :P16:04
mhaydenwhen's the feature freeze date?16:04
andymccrso for us16:05
andymccrits aug 7-11th16:05
andymccrhttps://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html16:05
andymccrbut keep in mind that things get harder to merge as we get close to milestone3 (we already have some gate timing issues causing problems)16:05
andymccrbut that means you still have a month and a half or so16:05
spotz_So get on it!16:05
andymccr^ better listen to spotz16:06
spotz_:)16:06
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andymccrhahah good good16:06
andymccrcloudnull: can we recarry that just to keep it on the agenda?16:06
cloudnullsure16:06
andymccr#action cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec (and some work)16:06
spotz_Moving on then16:07
spotz_#topic Documentation changes16:07
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spotz_asettle: assuming that's you?16:07
* asettle taps out16:07
andymccrhahaha16:07
andymccrso16:07
andymccrthe docs repos are changing!16:07
asettlespotz_: you are liaison :) but andymccr is repping me today, because I'm hosting the docs meeting right now too16:07
spotz_ahh cool:)16:07
andymccrwe have a little bit to do - not too much, since all our docs are in our repos16:07
andymccrbut there is a spec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html16:08
andymccrwe need to imp that, i think there is a sample patch that another project has, e.g.: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478546/16:08
spotz_#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html16:08
andymccrthanks spotz_ :D forgot to link16:08
spotz_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478546/16:08
asettlespotz_: has got this ;) thanks!16:08
andymccri think its pretty minimal for us, but was hoping somebody could take a stab at ensuring we're achieving that, obv asettle will be a point of contact16:09
spotz_I'll take a look, might be able to work on it some next week while off and traveling16:09
andymccrspotz_: awesome thanks a bunch!16:09
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andymccrso thats pretty much that one. but its somehting we have to get done to keep our docs up to date as they change i believe16:09
andymccragain by milestone 3 i think it is - but that may actually be milestone 3 for the docs project which is 2 weeks before ours (jul24-28, so just under a month)16:10
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evrardjpoh ok16:10
evrardjpthanks for the timeframe16:10
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spotz_Ok marked the dates down, I'll look at it after I finish my CFP for summit16:11
andymccrthanks spotz_!16:11
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spotz_#action spotz look at the doc changes needed for OSA, will give andymccr an update for next meeting16:11
andymccrahh such good action items :D16:11
spotz_:)16:11
spotz_Or I'll join from the pony, but can't lead a meeting like that!16:12
andymccrhahaha yeah no problem, i mean we can wait for the week after or just let us know outside of the meeting time16:12
spotz_PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado16:12
spotz_bah hang on16:12
evrardjp topic ?16:12
evrardjp:p16:12
andymccryes! SO another PTG update. just to say its coming up again, we have a room from Wed-Fri, but Mon-Tue are cross project and may be useful to some people16:12
spotz_#topic PTG - 11 -15 September - Deniver, CO16:12
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andymccrits in Denver - keep it in mind, get your tickets!16:13
andymccryes! SO another PTG update. just to say its coming up again, we have a room from Wed-Fri, but Mon-Tue are cross project and may be useful to some people16:13
andymccrwill repeat that one :P16:13
spotz_evrardjp: Yeah it sent vs putting it inline:(16:13
andymccrbut yeah just an update!16:13
spotz_andymccr: Etherpad or too early?16:13
cloudnullsadly i wont be at the PTG :'(16:13
spotz_:(16:13
andymccrspotz_: gonna call it too early right now. but we should think about that soonish i guess :)16:13
andymccrcloudnull: i think your trip around Europe sounds better tbh :)16:14
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cloudnullhahaha, maybe :)16:14
spotz_ooh I'll pick that one!:)16:14
spotz_cloudnull does fun stuff on vaca16:14
evrardjpI doubt I will be at the PTG too. Let's see.16:14
spotz_I'm trying to get there, cross fingers16:15
andymccrwe'll get more details on that, but for now just try start planning to be there :P16:15
spotz_Ok moving on16:15
spotz_#topic Release Planning and Decisions16:15
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spotz_hrm that one worked:)16:15
andymccrhaha nice16:16
andymccri'll tag a release this week - thanks to evrardjp for doing the one while I was out.16:16
andymccrand then like i said aug is milestone 3 for master16:17
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andymccrif there are any major issues let me know so i can include them in the release16:17
spotz_So that brings us to....16:17
spotz_#topic uWSGI/NGinx Blueprint: pending some changes (andmyccr)16:17
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andymccri was out so i havnt updated it just yet, but hopefully i'll fix something up before next week to get some more comments16:18
andymccrand again will ping - but yeah my bad i havnt progressed that16:18
mhaydeni like where this blueprint is going ;)16:18
spotz_heheh16:18
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andymccrmhayden: i thought we were friends :(16:18
mhaydenuh oh16:19
evrardjp:)16:19
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spotz_Ok moving on!:)16:20
spotz_#topic OPen Discussion16:20
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spotz_And I've got one, cleaning up old reviews. we should go through them and either abandon or get them back on track. we're up to 3 pages of reviews a few from 201616:21
odyssey4meandymccr https://review.openstack.org/478836 should go in before we release ocata16:21
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evrardjpI've got one: SHould we cancel next week's bug triage?16:21
andymccrodyssey4me: noted - thanks16:22
evrardjpspotz_: I abandonned a few ones recently16:22
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andymccrevrardjp: yeah perhaps, i'll try run through them briefly - i did that while you were out last week i think16:22
evrardjpbut don't hesitate16:22
spotz_evrardjp: I'd say yes cause I'll be driving and it's a holiday i the US16:22
xgerman_I like to be a bid more pro-active instead of figuring out the gate crashed I am wondering if there is a way for people not in the weeds to get a heads up on breaking changes16:22
evrardjpandymccr: oh great. but it's gonna be 4th of July so I don't expect any US guy16:22
andymccrevrardjp: yeah true16:23
odyssey4meah, you make a good point evrardjp16:23
spotz_odyssey4me: there were a few reviews you -1'd and commented and nothing happened after16:23
evrardjpI am using guy because I don't know what's the plural man + woman term16:23
odyssey4mexgerman_ yes, implement more testing - perhaps a periodic16:23
odyssey4methen make sure you check the periodics daily16:23
andymccrahh xgerman_ - sorry i havnt responded to your mail yet (i was out the last few days), i will do today (i half wrote the response!) but yeah above.16:23
spotz_evrardjp: No offense taken and asettle is in the other meeting and I don't think she'd be offended either16:23
xgerman_thanks16:23
odyssey4mespotz_ which reviews? I haven't seen any comments that need addressing?16:24
andymccri think the point is more that there are a tonne of old reviews16:24
asettlespotz_: what what? :)16:24
evrardjpandymccr: let's do the triage when we can, ad-hoc. if ppl want to raise bug, they can raise them on the chan16:24
asettleOh, no, I use 'guys' for men and women all the time16:25
spotz_asettle: evrardjp using guys16:25
asettleIt's a pretty generic term. It's evolvedddd.16:25
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asettleAt least, in my mind.16:25
spotz_odyssey4me: looging in16:25
evrardjpcool.16:25
asettleOthers don't see it as such16:25
asettleANWYAY NOT THE PLACE16:25
evrardjpso16:25
evrardjpfor the old reviews16:25
evrardjpI don't see a problem for abandonning them16:25
odyssey4mewe probably need to arrange some sort of hack day to address old reviews16:25
evrardjpif they are like 6 months old, they are probably not relevant anymore16:26
spotz_odyssey4me: one example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388013/, the other one I was thinking was jmccrory -1 as the last thing16:26
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odyssey4meyeah https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I2eae414fba7ddfac44ad6f5125e08740dc7a80a2,n,z has notmoved in ages16:26
spotz_But like this review from Travis is a year old https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342383/16:26
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odyssey4methat might even work now16:27
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spotz_I'm just thinking someone with the knowledge should maybe go through and abandon or mail the list or an either to get traction cause some might be too old to continue with16:27
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odyssey4mebut yeah, we need time to actually evaluate and decide whether to achieve those goals or abandon them16:27
evrardjpmaybe we should put them in an etherpad, evaluate together in a hackday like odyssey4me suggested?16:28
spotz_+216:28
andymccrsounds good to me16:28
spotz_I don't think we have any bugs that old but we could do them at the same time too16:28
evrardjpwell we do16:28
spotz_:(16:28
evrardjpbut they are now classified as opinion16:28
evrardjpit's been a while I didn't move them though, so I am sorry16:29
evrardjp#action evrardjp opinion bugs according to schedule16:29
spotz_I just know I sometimes go looking for stuff and you never know if old bugs are still valid16:29
evrardjpso if they are not opinion they are still "active"16:30
andymccragreed16:30
evrardjpbut it's not important, if you are looking into bug, the triage gives the importance of the bug16:30
spotz_#action Schedule a hack day to go through old reviews and possibly bugs16:30
spotz_:)16:30
* mhayden will bring snacks16:30
andymccrlook at us adding all sorts of action items16:31
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andymccrmhayden: i just want some of those scotch brite sponges16:31
evrardjpif it's low or wishlist, we can pretty much put that further in the back of our heads :)16:31
evrardjpandymccr: mhayden ??16:31
evrardjpsounds a nice private joke.16:31
spotz_andymccr: You can't get them on amazon.co.uk?16:31
mhaydenevrardjp: gotta clean those bugs16:31
spotz_ahh16:31
evrardjphaha.16:31
mhaydeni print out the ansible tasks on paper and them rub them with soap and water16:31
evrardjpI thought it was more a super timor thing.16:32
spotz_I bet you hand write them...16:32
spotz_Ok any more open discussion things?16:32
andymccrscrub the bugs!16:32
andymccrall good from my side16:32
evrardjpmhayden: that's an expensive hobby, with the price of the ink16:32
spotz_I can find more stuff for you....16:32
mhaydenevrardjp: double sided pages16:32
andymccror actually 1 thing16:33
spotz_see:)16:33
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andymccrcloudnull wrote a blog about implementing nspawn with OSA - it would be cool if people could take a look (it links a review too) - i think its a cool concept16:33
andymccrand id like some more eyes and people interested prior to the PTG16:33
andymccr#link https://cloudnull.io/2017/06/nspawning-openstack-ansible/16:33
evrardjpthere is a review up for it16:33
cloudnull++16:34
cloudnull:)16:34
andymccrso we can have a meaningful discussion and actually move forward with it - we've been talking for a while (much like the dev mode stuff!) so i'd like to start executing on that one too.16:34
spotz_:)16:34
evrardjpcloudnull: I love the idea, but I'm gonna a pain, sorry in advance!16:34
cloudnullI've also got some of those learnings being implemeted in our existing stack16:34
cloudnullhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/478561/16:34
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cloudnullevrardjp: ++ no worries16:34
spotz_We can change it to what you like while he's traipsing about Europe if you come to PTG evrardjp!16:34
spotz_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478561/16:35
evrardjpwell if he is in Europe I'd be happy to invite him home for drinks. :D16:35
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andymccrevrardjp: haha yes exactly16:35
cloudnullevrardjp: I may be in your home town16:36
cloudnullstill figuring that part out16:36
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andymccrplus thanks for the work and the blog post cloudnull - its really awesome imo16:36
evrardjpthanks indeed16:36
cloudnullthanks116:36
spotz_thanks2 :)16:36
cloudnullI think it will open up some cool possibilities16:36
cloudnullthe WIP review is very incomplete16:37
andymccryeah im genuinely hoping to fix the community goals and then focus on looking at that16:37
cloudnulland a role will be needed for nspawn host setup16:37
spotz_We still have 23 minutes we can do it now!16:37
cloudnullbut all of the concepts are in the review so folks can see the things in one place.16:38
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spotz_^ see link above:)16:39
evrardjpcloudnull: great16:39
spotz_Well I'm gonna release everyone back to their day. Pester cloudnull in the openstack-ansible channel:)16:40
spotz_#end-meeting16:40
evrardjpspotz_: ok16:40
cloudnull++16:40
cloudnullcheers all16:40
evrardjpbye all!16:40
spotz_#endmeeting16:40
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spotz_there we go!16:40
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