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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 13 14:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| kairat | o | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| kairat | o/ | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | Howdy | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | hello kairat and sean | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | erno is around here somewhere | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | I'm here | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | and i think abhishek is on the way, may be stuck in traffic | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | hi erno | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | kairat: \o good to see you around. | 14:01 |
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| efried | o/ | 14:01 |
| kairat | jokke_, glad to see you too | 14:01 |
| kairat | an all glance contributors=) | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | guess we should get started, here's the agenda: | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| abhishekk_ | O/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | #topic update - sydney summit presentations | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update - sydney summit presentations (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
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| rosmaita | just a reminder, the OpenStack Summit Sydney Call for Presentations closes July 14 at 11:59 pm PT/ July 15 at 6:59 UTC | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119345.html | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | there's more info at the link | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | anyone know if they'll be attending yet? | 14:03 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: I will be there. Hoping to meet more glance folks as time permits. | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | hopefully there will be some people there for you to meet! | 14:04 |
| smcginnis | Yes! :) | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - upcoming deadlines | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - upcoming deadlines (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:05 | |
| rosmaita | ok, we are one week away from the final release for non-client libraries | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | which in our case is glance_store | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | someone has that on the agenda for later | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | just note the date for now | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | also | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | we are 2 weeks away from P-3 and feature freeze | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | what that means for us is community goals done and image import refactore | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | *refactor | 14:06 |
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| jokke_ | Oh it was me | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | i think the wsgi goal is basically done, though there may be some configuration info that we need to publish | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | we will talk about that more in item #3 | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | it seems that there is some serious issues still with uwsgi deployed Glance | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | the py35 goal, i need to revisit, it was held up by some ssl problems, iirc | 14:07 |
| smcginnis | Is there still an issue with large image upload with uWSGI? | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | so depending of the definition of "done" we might be bit cautious about that | 14:08 |
| smcginnis | I hope I got that right. | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: yes, abhishekk_ has that on the agenda | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: yes, that seems to be the problem | 14:08 |
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| rosmaita | that's it for the updates, we'll discuss the technical issues in a minute | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | we can continue that in the later slot | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #topic PTG planning | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
| rosmaita | i'm waiting to hear back what our room situation will be at the PTG | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | in the meantime, there's an etherpad for discussion proposals: | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg-planning | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | for the last PTG, the proposals, topics, scheduling could be revised right up to the last minute | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | i believe that's true this time, though it would be nice to have a schedule a bit in advance to help people on other teams plan | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | but lets not leave all the planning ofr the last minute ;) | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: ++ | 14:11 |
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| smcginnis | Somewhat related - there's the travel support program for Sydney, but I think I heard they are also doing it for the PTG. | 14:11 |
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| smcginnis | Sorry, no link. | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | if you have a topic, feel free to put the title and a quick description, you can come back and fill it in a bit later | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | we just want to do some brainstorming | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | But if you are a contributor but can't get company funding to attend, might be worth looking into. | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | dang typed into the wrong interface | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: i think there's a link to the info the etherpad i mentioned above | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Oh, great! | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | but good suggestion, please look into the travel support if you aren't sure about funding | 14:13 |
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| rosmaita | that is something you probably need to do sooner rather than wait, the deadline is pretty soon i think | 14:13 |
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| jokke_ | ++ | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | btw, this time i requested 2 days instead of 3 | 14:14 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: for PTG? | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | but i'm having second thoughts, because we got quite a bit done on friday last time | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: yes | 14:14 |
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| smcginnis | The glare discussion could take a whole day. ;) | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | but, i personally was late asking for Glance meeting space, that's why we're waiting to hear what will be available | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: that would be a friday discussion :) | 14:15 |
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| jokke_ | the Friday seemed to be more freeform collaboration and cross project last time when the two first days were tightly scheduled for everyone | 14:15 |
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| jokke_ | I think it could be good to at least verify we can have a table or corner somewhere to gather up if people are staying | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i guess the point i want to make is that people tend to use the last day for travel | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | so even if thursday is the last glance day, please don't leave early | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | indeed | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | we want to get 2 full days of collaboration, not 1.5 days | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will keep everyone posted as i get more info | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | but please put topics on the etherpad, especially stuff you've heard from operators | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | ok, next item | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | #topic Disabling Glance Testing in Rally gates | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Disabling Glance Testing in Rally gates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:17 | |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: i think this is yours | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1703856 | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703856 in Glance "502 Bad gateway error on image-create" [High,Confirmed] | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk was up early today working on this one | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | yes, I am still looking for the exact issue | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | from comments on the bug and discussion in the glance channel, sounds like a timeout is happening due to slow uploads | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: were you able to reproduce that outside of the infra? | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | possibly | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | it is failing intermittently even I increase socket-timeout in uwsgi.ini | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's bad | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: yes | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | so the timeout increase seems to help, but not deterministically | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: ok, cool ... that should help debugging quite a bit | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita: right | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: what kind of setup did you reproduce it on? | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: you simply need to create large size image which will trigger this failure | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | i jsut had a all in one setup | 14:20 |
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| abhishekk | created new vm and installed openstack using devstack | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: ok, any idea why it still fails in Rally gate as I understood that the images uploaded there are not that large | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | do we have resource exhaustion somewhere? | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: unfortunately I left office early today and still travelling to home :( | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: how big was your vm? | 14:22 |
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| abhishekk | 60 GB | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | sounds pretty big, ok | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: ok ... I'm afraid I won't have too much time to focus on this, but if you have something specific you need help with, let me know ... I'll try to find the time to help | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | where I tried to create 10 GB, 15 GB images which are intermittently failing | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: sure I will spend some time on it | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | that same 502 bad gateway? | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | anyone know if mtreinish is around? | 14:24 |
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| abhishekk | hopefully I will figure it out tonight | 14:24 |
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| abhishekk | I have subscribed him to bug | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i think mtreinish is USA eastern TZ, so he should be around in a bit (unless he's on vacation) | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | abhishekk: thanks for picking this up, it is a high-profile bug | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: also don't be afraid to share any findings and ask help, even you don't have answers based on them, someone might | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: yes | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | ok, well a priority for anyone with some time is to help abhishekk | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | please keep an eye on the glance channel | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | and abhishekk , please keep us posted in there, even if it's just to say, "finally going to bed" | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita: yes | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | thanks, abhishekk ... anyone have any other suggestions about this one? | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | actually, i have a dumb question ... anyone know of any openstack clouds with free developer accounts? | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i used to have access to all the VMs i needed, but currently i don't | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: I know GCE has a free level, but you don't get much. | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | yeah, same with aws, just one micro | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | Works to get a terminal, but not too useful beyond that. | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing out on anything obvious | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, next item | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | #topic non-client library deadline next week | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | this is erno | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | talking about glance_store | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i mean this is jokke_ talking about glance_store | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | so just heads up the last non-client release deadline is next week | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | quick question | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | supposing there were a security fix after the deadline, we can still release? | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | Lets prioritize to get anything in we know we need so we can request release at Wednesday and hopefully have good stable glance-store for Pike | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: yes so after next week normal stable rules apply ... no new features etc. just bugfixes and such | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | anything critical we can obviously even bump requirements but most important is that there is no surprises on interfaces etc. for the consumers | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | so we're basically looking at this: | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | obviously this is more critical for libs that has lots of cross project consumers, but we don't want to shoot Glare guys into the foot either by making big last minute changes | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/glance_store+status:open+branch:master | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | this is our last agenda item, so please look through the list of patches and see what makes sense to get in | 14:37 |
| efried | Is there an etherpad or some other way of figuring out which of those are critical to get into the release? | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | And all, feel free to ping if there is something that needs urgent attention (in form of reviews or actual implementation work we have just missed) | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | efried: don't think so, but we can make one | 14:38 |
| efried | Happy to help with reviews, but would be nice to know which to focus on. | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | efried: No I don't think we've had any big changes apart from bug fixes in glance-store for this cycle | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | obviously the more of the bugfixes we get in by next week, the less we need to backport | 14:39 |
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| efried | As a noob, sorry if this is obvious, but I'll start looking at patches with a topic of bug/* that don't already have a +2? | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | There's a few glance_store patches under the "Needs final +2" section in the review dashboard I put on the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | And a bunch under the bugfixes section. | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | Though a lot appear to have -1 right now. | 14:41 |
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| rosmaita | efried: that, starting with bugs that "look" important | 14:43 |
| efried | aiyee | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: So half offtopic ... I think that uwsgi and glance-store are this weeks priority list? ;) | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: yes | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | but to efried 's point, would be helpful to prioritize the glance_store bugs | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | i don't see anything super important at first glance, though | 14:44 |
| efried | Here's a refined dashboard based off of smcginnis's that focuses on glance_store: https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=project%3A%5Eopenstack%2F.%2Aglance_store+status%3Aopen+NOT+owner%3Aself+NOT+label%3AWorkflow%3C%3D%252D1+label%3AVerified%3E%3D1+NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D%252D1%252cself+NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3E%3D1%252cself&title=Glance+Review+Inbox&Glance+Specs=project%3Aopenstack%2Fglance | 14:45 |
| efried | %252Dspecs&Bug+Fixes=topic%3A%5Ebug%2F.%2A&Needs+Feedback+%28Changes+older+than+5+days+that+have+not+been+reviewed+by+anyone%29=NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D2+age%3A5d&You+are+a+reviewer%252c+but+haven%27t+voted+in+the+current+revision=reviewer%3Aself&Needs+final+%2B2=label%3ACode%252DReview%3E%3D2+limit%3A50&New+Contributors=reviewer%3A10068&Passed+Jenkins%252c+No+Negative+Feedback=NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3E%3 | 14:45 |
| efried | D2+NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D%252D1+limit%3A50&Wayward+Changes+%28Changes+with+no+code+review+in+the+last+2days%29=NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D2 | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | I'll try to make quick triage run tonight | 14:45 |
| efried | whoah | 14:45 |
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| rosmaita | or maybe we end meeting early and use next 15 min? | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | anyone have anything for open discussion? | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | quick one | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | k | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:46 |
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| jokke_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482182/ One IIR bit I totally forgot until I started to implement the client side so would appreciate reviews on that | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | it's really small one | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | i'll commit to a review of that today | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | i'll include in priorities just to keep IIR on everyone's radar | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | ok, if there's nothing else, let's adjourn to the glance channel and take a quick look at the glance_store patches | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's go to glance store, efried can you create a blank etherpad to collect patch #s? | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | thanks everyone, see you in #openstack-glance in a minute | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | Thanks all! | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 13 14:50:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-07-13-14.00.html | 14:50 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 13 15:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | give it a minute, see if anyone else shows up | 15:02 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | morning | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | don’t have much on the agenda; i’ve been slammed with internal work this week | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: regarding the status/vm-state field on the server notifications | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | that does seem to tie in better with what i saw, but it’s a bit odd if status just isn’t there | 15:07 |
| lei-zh | yeah, a little weird, but I don't find that field, perhaps a bug? | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i guess i’ll ask the nova team. this has been more complicated than i hoped | 15:08 |
| lei-zh | and I'm ok with just storing long names, otherwise you have some works to keep result api compatible | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, that seems best. i got over ambitious | 15:10 |
| lei-zh | besides these nits it looks close | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, hopefully. pike-3 is end of this month | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | so another two weeks i guess | 15:13 |
| lei-zh | and about zaqar publisher, I'll put up a patch soon, perhaps end of this week | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | ok, cool. be interesting to see that integrated with horizon | 15:13 |
| sjmc7 | 3 years later :) | 15:13 |
| lei-zh | I need some help from zaqar guys on a client patch, because mine is based on the changes of zaqarclient | 15:14 |
| lei-zh | I'm in contact with them | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | ok | 15:15 |
| lei-zh | cannot believe I've been worked on openstack for so long : ) | 15:16 |
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| sjmc7 | :) | 15:16 |
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| TravT | lei-zh, are you still doing openstack as your main job? | 15:17 |
| lei-zh | TravT, currently yes, but may put my focus to some other projects | 15:18 |
| lei-zh | so that my manager can write his weekly or monthly report on prioritized works... | 15:20 |
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| sjmc7 | time to watch Office Space again :) | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | looking at other open reviews, all the docs ones merged | 15:20 |
| TravT | Yeah, better get that TPS report filled out | 15:20 |
| lei-zh | lol, to enable intel features in xxxx | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | so there’s not really anything else catches my eye. TravT , lei-zh - anything you wanted to discuss? | 15:21 |
| TravT | no, i guess not | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | nope | 15:22 |
| TravT | have a good night lei-zh | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | ok, let’s end it then. thanks folks, have a good weekend | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | TravT, thanks! | 15:22 |
| lei-zh | you too | 15:22 |
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| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 13 15:23:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-07-13-15.00.html | 15:23 |
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| spotz | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 13 16:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
| spotz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:00 |
| spotz | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| asettle | o/ | 16:00 |
| spotz | Hey! | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:01 |
| palendae | o/ | 16:01 |
| * hwoarang is around | 16:02 | |
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| evrardjp | woot hwoarang \o/ | 16:02 |
| * mhayden hellos | 16:02 | |
| spotz | Sweet, I'm assuming andymccr updated the agenda so we'll just go with that:) | 16:02 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:03 |
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| spotz | #topic review action items | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review action items (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:03 | |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:03 |
| spotz | #topic cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec (and some work) | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec (and some work) (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:03 | |
| spotz | You're up cloudnull | 16:03 |
| andymccr | i havnt seen cloudnull around | 16:03 |
| andymccr | so im guessing hes not about :( | 16:03 |
| asettle | He's been quiet af today | 16:03 |
| andymccr | i will action item it again, but as i said as we get closer to milestone 3 - its gonna get reverted unfortunatley | 16:03 |
| spotz | He's been about later | 16:04 |
| spotz | #action cloudnull doing the hyperconverge spec (and some work) | 16:04 |
| andymccr | thanks spotz! | 16:04 |
| spotz | #topic spotz look at the doc changes needed for OSA, will give andymccr an update for next meeting | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "spotz look at the doc changes needed for OSA, will give andymccr an update for next meeting (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:04 | |
| * andymccr waits for update | 16:04 | |
| spotz | hwoarang: You've actually done the work if you want to update? | 16:04 |
| hwoarang | i did? | 16:05 |
| spotz | I thought it was you, dammits:) | 16:05 |
| hwoarang | ;p | 16:05 |
| asettle | spotz: that would be odyssey4me who did the work | 16:05 |
| asettle | After all the links broke | 16:05 |
| andymccr | haha spotz i think we did get the docs stuff moved - although it might be worthwhile still going through that spec/patch to confirm? | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | oh that :) yes | 16:05 |
| asettle | Yes, it would be | 16:05 |
| palendae | Links broke again D: | 16:05 |
| asettle | There's a lot of stuff still... er... not right | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | I renamed some folders, that happened | 16:05 |
| asettle | palendae: they broke because of the migration | 16:05 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:05 |
| palendae | Makes sense | 16:05 |
| andymccr | on the docs things | 16:06 |
| spotz | Ok odyssey4me update please:) | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | now that there's a more structured set of documentation types, we should probably try to make the content sensibly match | 16:06 |
| andymccr | we should talk about the mitaka docs, because i havnt EOL'd the openstack-ansible repo just yet | 16:06 |
| andymccr | but i would like to | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: I agree | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | the spec from docs is more clear on what should be where | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | andymccr you're going to have to EOL it - the jobs have been removed, I thinkk | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | so we can move content progressively | 16:06 |
| asettle | evrardjp: content has been moved | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | I've seen | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | infra has been removing mitaka-related jobs | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | but there are still things that are improvable | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | IMO | 16:07 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: ahh ok | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | I'll submit patches | 16:07 |
| spotz | I haven't seen any bugs come in for broken docs for us, though I have heard of some after the migration day(s) | 16:07 |
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| spotz | I'll give things a click about when I catch up after being gone for a week:) | 16:08 |
| spotz | #action spotz click about the docs site | 16:08 |
| asettle | spotz: would be beneficial just to go through the spec and ensure that all the deliverables have been met too | 16:08 |
| spotz | asettle okie | 16:08 |
| spotz | #topic evrardjp opinion bugs according to schedule | 16:09 |
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| asettle | Thanks spotz :) | 16:09 |
| spotz | evrardjp: You're up! | 16:09 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: i dont even remember what that sentence meant :D | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | that was not a topic, that was an AP. | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | I didn't do it, you can postpone to next week | 16:10 |
| spotz | #action evrardjp opinion bugs according to schedule | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | well anyone could do it too | 16:10 |
| spotz | You're still up though:) | 16:10 |
| spotz | #topic evrardjp schedule a hack day to go through old reviews and possibly bugs | 16:10 |
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| evrardjp | the idea is starting from a certain age, the bugs should be classifide as "opinion" | 16:10 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: we should be slowing down on developing new things after like m3 so i think maybe that is a good time to start doing a bug smash | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | didn't got the chance to advance on that too. Next week. | 16:11 |
| andymccr | evrardjp: ahhh yeah ok i remmeber | 16:11 |
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| spotz | #action evrardjp schedule a hack day to go through old reviews and possibly bugs | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp I'd suggest just proposing your suggested changes to the docs https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/contributor/bug-triage.html then we can discuss in review | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | ok andymccr, maybe we should organise it not only remotely | 16:12 |
| spotz | Letting the convo catchup:) | 16:12 |
| andymccr | all good | 16:12 |
| spotz | #topic Topics for Discussion | 16:13 |
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| spotz | #topic Proposing new core reviewers andymccr | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Proposing new core reviewers andymccr (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:13 | |
| spotz | You're up boss | 16:13 |
| andymccr | yes! | 16:13 |
| andymccr | ok so - i've spoken with hwoarang and after the awesome work with reviews and patches - i'd like to propose hwoarang as a core reviewer | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:14 |
| spotz | +1 | 16:14 |
| jmccrory | +1 | 16:14 |
| andymccr | i'll send out an email to the ML and we can confirm it next week - but if there are any major concerns let us know | 16:14 |
| andymccr | sweet sounds good so far ;P | 16:15 |
| andymccr | excellent! and thanks hwoarang for all the hard work so far | 16:15 |
| hwoarang | thank you too | 16:15 |
| spotz | #topic PTG - 11-15 September - Denver, Colorado | 16:15 |
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| spotz | You're up still:) | 16:15 |
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| andymccr | ok! SO - i am finally confirmed going to the PTG, so myself mhayden odyssey4me and evrardjp will be there | 16:15 |
| andymccr | i'll start puting up an etherpad probably right after m3 (once we get that out!) | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | +1 for hwoarang as core :) | 16:16 |
| spotz | I'm still up in the air:( Last I heard the still wanted me in LA even though my talk didn't get accepted | 16:16 |
| andymccr | but if you havnt planned yet, start planning, would be awesome to get some good topics for discussion that are already well thought out and have some ground work done. | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I'd like us to actually put some time aside to hack together - not just talk | 16:17 |
| andymccr | as with the last one and any others, if you cant attend and have something to discuss let us know - we will do our best to try adapt to that | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | so it'd be useful to do that | 16:17 |
| xgerman_ | odyssey4m3 +! | 16:17 |
| andymccr | agreed | 16:17 |
| spotz | And we can find out about maybe video access as well | 16:17 |
| andymccr | yeah so last time we were very "ad hoc" but if there are specific topics for people who cant attend i'll do my best to plan it better time wise and arrange something | 16:18 |
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| evrardjp | I like the hack session idea, maybe worth planning too, say x hours for that, y hours for another topic... | 16:19 |
| andymccr | i think the point is also to have some work done - e.g. "here is an idea id like to see implemented and here is how it could be implemented or some groundwork that has already been done" | 16:20 |
| spotz | yeah I always enjoyed the bug squash type days when folks were all in a room even if working on different projects | 16:20 |
| andymccr | rather than just an idea that we can talk about and never do :P | 16:20 |
| andymccr | maybe we can use the friday as a hack day | 16:20 |
| andymccr | anyway planning to come | 16:20 |
| spotz | Moving on then:) | 16:20 |
| spotz | #topic Release Planning and Decisions andymccr | 16:20 |
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| andymccr | ok so. | 16:21 |
| andymccr | its release week this week | 16:21 |
| andymccr | but we're holding off for a bit - we have had some instability in the builds due to the upgrade work that is happening | 16:21 |
| andymccr | i'd like to get that all sorted and solid before we release again, i want to avoid a broken release | 16:22 |
| andymccr | any help to fix up the bugs that have come about as a result of the upgrade approach changes would be greatly appreciated | 16:22 |
| andymccr | but hopefully we can release early next week | 16:22 |
| andymccr | milestone 3 is in 2 weeks, but our feature freeze is officially in a months time. | 16:23 |
| andymccr | so just keep that in mind | 16:23 |
| andymccr | that is all! thanks to everybody who has helped out this week - its a tricky time atm - but once we're through we can focus on stabilizing! | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | Yeah. | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | I'd like to thanks odyssey4me for the massive effort he is doing too. | 16:25 |
| andymccr | ^ definitely this | 16:26 |
| spotz | +2:) | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | it's not an easy job this change | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | anyway | 16:26 |
| andymccr | although until we get a solid release out we are not allowed to be friends :P | 16:27 |
| spotz | :( | 16:27 |
| andymccr | hahaha | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:27 |
| spotz | Ok last topic before open discussion | 16:27 |
| spotz | #topic uWSGI/NGinx Blueprint: pending some changes (andmyccr) | 16:27 |
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| spotz | Still holding? | 16:27 |
| andymccr | ahha | 16:27 |
| andymccr | ok! | 16:27 |
| andymccr | SO | 16:27 |
| andymccr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451425/ patch is up for comments | 16:28 |
| andymccr | and it is working | 16:28 |
| spotz | nice! | 16:28 |
| andymccr | please take a look if you get a chance - its still WIP because its not perfect/ready to merge | 16:28 |
| andymccr | its just a straight drop of uwsgi instead of an eventlet service and removes the nginx bits | 16:28 |
| spotz | Which leads us to.... | 16:29 |
| spotz | #topic Open Discussion | 16:29 |
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| spotz | Nobody has anything?:( | 16:30 |
| andymccr | haha aww :( | 16:30 |
| xgerman_ | I am making some improvements on Ocatvia | 16:30 |
| xgerman_ | so pleaae have a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/openstack-ansible-os_octavia+status:open,n,z | 16:30 |
| xgerman_ | they are all in preparation for an Octavia AIO scenario | 16:31 |
| andymccr | xgerman_: ahh nice will take a look | 16:31 |
| xgerman_ | thx more to come… | 16:32 |
| spotz | Thanks xgerman_! | 16:33 |
| spotz | Anyone else have reviews or anything else they want to bring up? | 16:34 |
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| spotz | Any one? Otherwise we'll get 25 minutes back:) | 16:35 |
| andymccr | sounds good:) | 16:35 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
| andymccr | thanks spotz! | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 13 16:35:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-07-13-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-07-13-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-07-13-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
| spotz | No prob:) | 16:35 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 13 17:00:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:00 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:00 |
| vks1 | hi all | 17:00 |
| bcafarel | hello | 17:01 |
| LouisF | #topic agenda | 17:01 |
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| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:01 |
| igordcard | hi all | 17:02 |
| LouisF | #topic CLI in python-neutronclient | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | mohan has updated - please review this | 17:03 |
| igordcard | done, lgtm | 17:03 |
| LouisF | yeah i'd like this to be wrapped up | 17:04 |
| bcafarel | we are probably really close now (I hope) | 17:04 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | bcafarel: yes | 17:04 |
| pcarver | I think I've finally made some progress on the API definition. | 17:04 |
| LouisF | pcarver: great | 17:05 |
| pcarver | I think I was trying to migrate too much before. | 17:05 |
| pcarver | I've reduced the amount of code that I'm moving from networking-sfc to neutron-lib and now have a new patch set up that passed tox locally. I haven't check to see if it passed the gate tests yet. | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: thanks | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | #topic Tap SFC | 17:07 |
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| LouisF | vks1: what is status? | 17:07 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: I am working on the comment given by igordcard | 17:07 |
| vks1 | on OVS driver side | 17:07 |
| vks1 | was consumed in some other task this week most of time | 17:08 |
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| LouisF | vks1: ok, what is status regarding the CLI syntax? | 17:09 |
| vks1 | LouisF: will submit both the patch at same time | 17:09 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok thanks | 17:09 |
| LouisF | #topic SFC graph | 17:09 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: what is status? | 17:10 |
| igordcard | it is finished and it's up for review | 17:10 |
| igordcard | does not include OSC support yet (someone else is working on that and it might be 1 week more or so) or Heat | 17:10 |
| igordcard | though I have a smaller patch with only the old neutron client so the reviewers can test | 17:11 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok, I had a question on the flow classifiers for the port chains that are included in an sfc graph | 17:11 |
| LouisF | igordcard: what is the intended behavior? | 17:11 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes I have been forgetting to check some of the reviews as I've been pulled in too many directions this week | 17:12 |
| igordcard | will address asap | 17:12 |
| igordcard | but basically LSP/LDP are ignored when chains are part of a graph (except the initial chain) | 17:12 |
| igordcard | all other classifications will still be looked up by OVS | 17:12 |
| LouisF | how does the fc of source pc work with fc of dest pc? | 17:13 |
| igordcard | also, for queens I will need to submit a patch that calls the full flow classifier conflict check (instead of the basic flow classifier conflict check) for chains in a graph | 17:13 |
| LouisF | how about the N-tuple values? | 17:13 |
| igordcard | otherwise it limits the classifications that can be used in the graph | 17:13 |
| igordcard | let's consider that src chain has FC:UDP and dst chain has FC:TCP | 17:14 |
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| igordcard | traffic will enter dst chain if and only if it is TCP traffic and it came from src chain | 17:15 |
| LouisF | so what is behavior? | 17:15 |
| igordcard | it knows it came from src chain because a set of flows will be resolved in OVS that map the SPI/SI of the last hop of src chain, to the UDP flow classification that leads to the first hop of dst chain | 17:15 |
| LouisF | so if the fc of source pc is UDP then only UDP traffic will egress the source pc - right , no TCP traffic | 17:16 |
| igordcard | no necessarily, as functions are free to changing traffic classification due to SFC Encapsulation | 17:16 |
| LouisF | igordcard: i don't understand that | 17:17 |
| igordcard | if the user has not created a branch to catch non-TCP traffic at the end of the src chain, the traffic should be dropped | 17:17 |
| igordcard | if indeed it is not TCP | 17:18 |
| igordcard | LouisF: what part exactly does it become less clear? | 17:18 |
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| LouisF | if source pc1 has a classifier that matches UDP traffic then only UDP traffic will enter pc1 and egress pc1 - there will be no TCP traffic in pc1 | 17:20 |
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| LouisF | so if dest pc2 with fc=TCP is appended to pc1 there will be no TCP traffic to enter pc2 | 17:21 |
| igordcard | LouisF: oh, egress means "getting into" the chain, right? | 17:21 |
| LouisF | igordcard: no, "egress" means leaving pc1 | 17:22 |
| igordcard | LouisF: ok so I understood correctly | 17:22 |
| igordcard | so regarding "then only UDP traffic will enter pc1 and egress pc1" | 17:23 |
| LouisF | igordcard: yes | 17:23 |
| igordcard | this is where I comment "not necessarily" | 17:23 |
| igordcard | necessarily UDP traffic enters pc1 | 17:23 |
| igordcard | but what comes out can be something else | 17:23 |
| igordcard | for the same reason you are submitting the proxy correlation map | 17:23 |
| igordcard | non-transparent SFs | 17:23 |
| igordcard | and by the way, the combination of proxy correlation map (or exclusive PPGs) with service graphs is excellent | 17:24 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: ok, you are saying that a SF in pc1 can modify the N-tuple to the traffic egresses from pc1 with a TCP instead of UDP | 17:25 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok, got it - agree it would be a good combination | 17:26 |
| igordcard | LouisF: hypothetically... it's a rather stupid example, but yes | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | ok so the flow classifier values of each dest pc in a SFC graph can take into consideration possible N-tuple changes by SFs in the src pc | 17:28 |
| LouisF | igordcard: is would be good to add text to cover some of these scenarios | 17:29 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: hi john | 17:29 |
| doonhammer | Hi LouisF | 17:29 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes, it can maybe be described as something like "statically-defined dynamic service function chaining" | 17:29 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: OK I'll look at improving the docs... feel free to leave small hints as comments and I'll expand on each of them | 17:30 |
| LouisF | igordcard: one or two examples of SFC graph showing the FC values for src and dest PCs | 17:31 |
| igordcard | LouisF: regarding NSH support, I'm resuming the patch now | 17:31 |
| igordcard | LouisF: ok | 17:31 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok i will post an example | 17:31 |
| LouisF | #OVN work | 17:32 |
| LouisF | #topic OVN work | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: what is current status? | 17:32 |
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| doonhammer | LouisF: no change swamped on internal tasks | 17:33 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: ok, thanks | 17:33 |
| LouisF | #topic proxy correlation patch | 17:33 |
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| LouisF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481840/ | 17:33 |
| LouisF | i want to clarify this behavior | 17:34 |
| * igordcard is reading pcarver's comment now | 17:34 | |
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| pcarver | I don't have a strong preference for what's right or wrong, I was just commenting on how I read the proposal | 17:35 |
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| LouisF | the intention here is for a PPG (which is currently used as a LB group) to be used for mapping of SF instances (of the same SF type) | 17:36 |
| LouisF | to different port chains thereby avoiding the need to re-classify | 17:36 |
| LouisF | it a PPG is used for this proxy port correlation it will _not_ be used for LB | 17:37 |
| pcarver | LouisF: yes, that's my interpretation | 17:38 |
| igordcard | LouisF: and that third point is exactly where I don't agree | 17:38 |
| LouisF | my last comment on the patch is incorrect - sorry for confusion | 17:38 |
| igordcard | LouisF: up until now a Port Pair Group was a very clear, single-purpose resource | 17:38 |
| pcarver | that if the SF alters the port tuple then the PPG has to support multiple chains with each chain using only one PP from each PPG | 17:38 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: correct | 17:38 |
| pcarver | I don't know if that's right or wrong, but it's what the spec says as far as I can tell | 17:39 |
| igordcard | LouisF: just group a bunch of service function instances and load balance across them, or use some other selection policy that doesn't even exist yet but might in the future | 17:39 |
| LouisF | igordcard: correct - that has been the purpose of the PPG | 17:39 |
| igordcard | LouisF: creating a proxy correlation map but still calling it PPG essentially destroys the definition of a PPG | 17:39 |
| LouisF | igordcard: what i am proposing is the this group of PPs be used for a different purpose | 17:39 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: right.. and what I proposed todau is to simply allow PPGs to be marked as exclusive (to 1 PC) or not | 17:40 |
| LouisF | if a PPG is marked as proxy-port-correlation = true then it has a different behavior | 17:40 |
| igordcard | LouisF: because that gives you the same benefits in terms of SFC-proxying, and changes exactly nothing in the meaning of PPG | 17:41 |
| igordcard | and the impl is much simpler | 17:42 |
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| igordcard | question, how do you tackle load balangin + proxy map at the same hop of the chain when using a proxy map correlation PPG? | 17:43 |
| igordcard | balancing* | 17:43 |
| LouisF | igordcard: but that means each chain must have a separate exclusive PPG | 17:43 |
| igordcard | LouisF: well only at the hops where full proxying is required | 17:45 |
| LouisF | igordcard: if a PPG is configured for proxy-port-correlation it would not support LB | 17:45 |
| igordcard | LouisF: a drawback that should be documented if the proxy map route is followed | 17:47 |
| LouisF | igordcard: i will add that text | 17:48 |
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| igordcard | I really like having the ability to to 1:1 full proxying, but I strongly support doing it in the most consistent way in terms of the API, the abstractions, and the features that are already supported in networking-sfc (LB) | 17:48 |
| LouisF | however, the use of an exclusive mechanism also has benefits | 17:48 |
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| LouisF | suggest we adopt both methods | 17:50 |
| igordcard | of course, my proposal also has its drawbacks, as you said: now the same PPG cannot be reused (for the hops that would require full proxying) | 17:50 |
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| igordcard | not sure I can support the proxy map correlation, but let's continue on the spec then | 17:53 |
| igordcard | LouisF: also have to read the referenced draft | 17:53 |
| LouisF | igordcard: we can continue in the review | 17:53 |
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| LouisF | i will add text stating that the PPG can be used for LB or proxy-port-correlation but not both | 17:55 |
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| LouisF | good discussion | 17:56 |
| LouisF | ok, all i have for now | 17:56 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:56 |
| igordcard | bye all | 17:56 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 13 17:56:57 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-07-13-17.00.html | 17:57 |
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