Tuesday, 2017-09-26

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yushirohi14:00
SarathMekalahi yushiro14:00
annp_hi \14:00
yushiro#startmeeting fwaas14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 26 14:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fwaas'14:01
mlavalleo/14:01
annp_hi mlavalle,14:01
yushiro#chair xgerman_ yushiro14:01
openstackCurrent chairs: xgerman_ yushiro14:01
mlavalleannp_: hi there14:01
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annp_mlavalle: thanks for neutron sticker. :)14:02
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yushiromlavalle, hi14:02
mlavalleannp_: nice! I am glad youot it14:02
annp_mlavalle: it looks very cool.14:02
SridarKHi FWaaS folks14:02
yushiro#chair SridarK14:02
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK xgerman_ yushiro14:02
SarathMekalahi SridarK14:02
SridarKshall we get started14:02
yushiroyes14:02
SridarKyushiro: my turn today ?14:03
xgerman_o/ - sorry might be a bit distracted…14:03
SridarKxgerman_: np14:03
yushiroSridarK, Maybe yes :)14:03
SridarKok14:03
xgerman_+114:03
SridarKok lets dive right in14:03
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SridarKi think we have discussed the PTG priorities quite a bit in detail over the last mtgs14:04
SridarK#topic L2 Support14:04
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SridarKyushiro: pls go ahead14:05
yushiroOK14:05
yushiroNow, we've removed these 'dependency' for each l2 patches.14:05
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971/14:05
yushiroSridarK, thanks14:06
yushiroNow, in l2-agent patch, I have to fix some minor bug and add UTs.  Sorry, I couldn't work last week due to other tasks...14:07
doudeHello14:07
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yushiroThere is no blocking issue in this patch.14:07
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yushiroIn order to move forward, we should fix & merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50432414:08
yushiroIs Inessa here?14:08
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SridarKyushiro: agreed - i was looking at this too and it looks good to me14:08
yushiroI, annp_ and Inessa is discussing 'what noop driver should inherit'14:09
SridarKi think we can clarify the usage of the L2 driver base class14:09
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xgerman_I think we should have unit tests —14:09
xgerman_but otherwise great ;-)14:09
yushiroSridarK, If so, is it OK to inherit just 'object' and describe usage in docstring?14:10
SridarKhmm yes - i was wondering too on that instead of having another version14:10
SridarKonce we clarify that i think we are good14:11
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SridarKlet me also perhaps make a comment on gerrit14:11
yushiroSridarK, OK.  And, this approach is temporary.  Finally, we should improve neutron's side (Inessa's patch in neutron).14:12
xgerman_yep14:12
SridarKi see annp_ latest response14:12
SridarKand that makes more sense14:12
xgerman_+114:12
yushiroOK, so, annp_ do you have bandwidth to add UT for this patch?14:13
SridarKok lets close that conversation on gerrit and we can get this in quickly14:13
yushiroYes, If annp_ or I added UTs in this patch, please review it ASAP :)14:14
annp_ok, I will update it in tomorrow.14:14
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yushiroThank you.14:14
SridarKannp_: great thx14:14
annp_No problem.14:14
yushiroOK, SridarK , is it OK to continue default fwg patch?14:14
SridarKyushiro: ok lets get to that14:15
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425769/14:15
yushiroThanks Inessa and reedip for this work.14:15
SridarK+114:16
annp_+1 :)14:16
SridarKIn terms of logistics - shall we focus on getting in the L2 agent patches and driver in first ?14:17
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yushiroSridarK, Yes.  sorry for confusing.  l2-patch is the highest priority.14:18
SridarKyushiro: no no no confusion just stating for the record14:19
SridarKand we need to discuss default FWG as well14:19
yushiroI mean ...  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447251  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50432414:19
xgerman_+114:19
SridarKok perfect14:19
yushiroSo, let's focus on these 3 patches :)14:20
SridarKyushiro: if nothing more on the agent, shall we move to the driver14:20
SridarKyushiro: +114:20
yushiroOk14:20
yushiroplz go ahead14:20
SridarKah chandanc not around ?14:20
SarathMekalahe said he will join14:21
SridarKSarathMekala: ok thx14:21
SarathMekalawas mentioning that the meeting has been shifted to Wednesday14:22
yushiroannp_, Did u discuss with Inessa about driver's patch ?14:22
yushiroannp_, I'd like to know some blocking issue on this.14:22
SridarKSarathMekala: ok no we have not effected that yet14:23
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447251/14:23
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SarathMekalaSridarK, ok14:23
SridarKSarathMekala: but perhaps some confusion - we can come back to this in case he will take some time to join14:24
annp_yushiro, I haven't discussed with her yet.14:24
yushiroannp_, Ah, I mean the last comment for this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44725114:24
SridarKalso as we work on merging the L2 support related patches, lets work thru some testing14:25
annp_let me see.14:25
SridarKhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-v2-l214:25
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SridarKwe can use this to capture test cases and also results14:25
SarathMekalaCalled up Chandan.. he is in a release meeting it seems.. will sync up with you on mail14:25
SridarKSarathMekala: ok no worries14:25
annp_because we'll come up with local vlan idead14:25
annp_so I think we can handle exception at L2 agent side14:26
annp_not at driver side.14:26
annp_However, i'm not sure which way is better14:26
annp_there, i'd like to get more opinion from folks.14:27
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yushiroannp_, Yes, previous approach was that.  I implemented to get vlan_id from network in l2-side14:27
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SridarKannp_: i will need to look at the comments14:28
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yushiroI and chandan discussed and realized that there is race condition to get vlan tag from OVS in driver layer.14:28
SridarKyushiro: when a port has been created ?14:29
yushiroSo, I'd like to try to revert previous approach (getting VLAN id from l2-agent side by using local vlan manager)14:30
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yushiroSridarK, Yes, this is the timing.14:30
SridarKyushiro: ok14:30
yushiroSridarK, Previously, after handle_port() has been called, we tried to associate default fwg to that port.14:30
yushiroSridarK, In this timing, we couldn't refer VLAN tag from OVS because OVS tag has not been created at that moment.14:31
SridarKhmm ok14:31
SridarKthe workflow will be similar with SG correct ?14:32
yushiroYes, correct.14:32
yushiroI'll integrate these patches and try to use it.14:33
SridarKyushiro: ok14:33
xgerman_mmh, sounds good14:33
annp_+114:33
SridarKlets use https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-v2-l214:33
SridarKto coordinate as we did for the dashboard14:33
yushiroThere are several modifications for previously.14:33
SridarKlets make sure to do some testing before we merge the patches14:33
yushiroYes, I'll describe local.conf for testing.14:34
SridarKyushiro: ok perfect14:34
SridarKon the driver, annp_  u will be helping out chandanc as well ?14:34
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annp_SridarK. yes. Sure.14:34
annp_SridarK: my pleasure. :)14:35
SridarKannp_: many thx much appreciated14:35
annp_you're welcome.\14:35
yushiroannp_, thanks..14:35
SridarKSo quick summary of plan is to start kicking the tires on some integration testing for L2 support14:36
yushiroYeah.14:36
yushiroah, I forgot I thing.14:36
SridarKyushiro: yes pls go ahead14:36
yushiroSridarK, xgerman_ I pushed in-tree docs patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505326/14:36
SridarKyushiro: oh yes14:37
SridarKI wanted to ask too14:37
SridarKdo we want to get this in as a place holder with just the directory structure ?14:37
SridarKand were u going to target some doc changes as part of the L2 patches ?14:38
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yushiroSridarK, Hmm, sorry I'm not sure the effect for place_holder in doc directories.14:38
SridarKyushiro: ok lets discuss offline14:39
yushiroSridarK, OK.14:39
SridarK#topic FWaaS Dashboard14:39
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SridarKSarathMekala: amotoki: pls go ahead14:39
SarathMekalathe last build was failing on pep8 and one UT failure.. I have fixed them14:40
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475840/14:40
SridarKSarathMekala: I have not been able to redo the tests on the last set of patches14:40
SridarKSarathMekala: If there are no known issues - i will run some tests today14:41
yushiroSarathMekala, Now I'm running devstack with you latest patch14:41
SarathMekalaSridarK, I think all the known issues are fixed.. amotoki and yushiro can confirm14:42
SridarKSarathMekala: ok14:42
SridarKand IIRC there is one issue from native Horizon14:42
yushiroSarathMekala, OK I believe it :)  My concern is creating firewall_policy with rule.14:42
SarathMekalayushiro, what exactly is the problem you are facing?14:43
SridarKAlso lets communicate the dashboard etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-v2-dashboard14:44
yushiroSarathMekala, maybe viewing is broken for 'drag & drop' firewall_rule to apply/remove.14:44
SridarKso we can all be in sync14:44
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yushiroAnyway, i'll test and comment on your patch, SarathMekala14:44
SarathMekalayushiro, I did not implement drag and drop :)14:44
SarathMekalainstead, I have provided checkboxes for selecting the rules14:45
yushiroJust deployed :)14:45
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SridarKok14:45
yushiroSarathMekala, Oh, really?  I'll check it.  Let's sync after meeting.14:45
SarathMekalayushiro, sure.. even amotoki had a question on this area earlier14:46
SridarKok good we can sync on etherpad and gerrit - i think we are almost there14:46
SarathMekalayeah.. sure14:46
SridarKhopefully we can merge this in the next few days14:46
xgerman_+114:46
SarathMekalaI am hoping so :)14:46
SridarKok lets move on14:47
yushiroyeees!!14:47
SridarK#topic Pluggable backend driver14:47
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SridarKi saw doude join and we promised to give some time for this topic14:47
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doude:)14:47
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480265/14:48
SridarKdoude: pls go ahead14:48
doudenot to much to say, just the patch is there and passed the CI since more 2 weeks now14:48
SridarKdoude: ok14:48
SridarKi think once we get the L2 changes in - we can focus more on this patch14:48
doudebut I think I'll have a huge rebase work when all l2 stuff will land14:49
SridarKone thing to think about - how much impact these current changes will have14:49
SridarKexactly u read my mind :-)14:49
doude:'(14:49
SridarKyes so pls bear with us - i think the L2 changes should start landing in the next 2 weeks - i hope14:50
doudethe principal thing I do in that patch is to reorganize the code and propose a driver interface14:50
SridarKthe impact may not be that bad - considering that the L3 and most of the plugin side of things are not majorly impacted by L2 support changes14:51
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doudeyes but the bad thing actually in the fwaas V2 code is the db code is not clearly separated from the plugin14:53
xgerman_so we should change that?14:53
SridarKdoude: yes that i agree - we have just morphed what we started with14:54
yushirodoude, Just a question.  Is your patch enable to handle pre/post for v2 resources by implementing driver?14:54
doudeand plugin inherits from the DB mixin14:54
doudeno14:54
SridarKdoude: yes exactly14:54
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SridarKso we will plan for some refactoring14:54
doudewe did that in bgpvpn14:54
doudeproject14:55
xgerman_ok, we should out it into LP then ;-)14:55
xgerman_put14:55
SridarKok lets do some thinking along those lines as well, yushiro to ur point above ^^14:55
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yushiroOK14:56
SridarKxgerman_: lets discuss this a bit so we can articulate it well14:56
SridarKok good - doude let us know if u need anthing else to be discussed and we can make time here or on the channel14:57
xgerman_yes.14:57
SridarK#topic Open Discussion14:57
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mlavalleo/14:57
mlavallehey14:57
SridarKmlavalle: hi14:57
xgerman_hi14:57
doudewe should discus and decide before I continuing to work on it14:57
SridarKso folks last week i had a chance to meet with mlavalle who was in the area14:57
SridarKwe had a nice discussion on where things are with the project14:57
SridarKmlavalle: pls go ahead14:58
mlavalleyeah, nice conversation and lucnh14:58
SridarKwe only have 3 min14:58
mlavallejust wanted to share with the team that we are looking to work on adding logging to FW14:58
mlavalleand also explore further https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236840/14:58
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mlavalleI just wanted to give the team visibility14:59
mlavallefor the time being14:59
xgerman_thx14:59
mlavallethat's all :-)14:59
SridarKthx mlavalle14:59
yushiroThanks mlavalle !!14:59
SridarKwe have some synergy on the logging work done by yushiro and folks as well for SG14:59
xgerman_+115:00
SridarKmlavalle: thx for dropping in :-)15:00
xgerman_time —15:00
yushiroyeah, thanks15:00
mlavallethanks for having me :-)15:00
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SridarKok folks thx for joining and have a great week15:00
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SridarK#endmeeting fwaas15:01
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annp_Thanks and see you15:01
SarathMekalabye all O/15:02
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doudebye15:03
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 26 17:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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gibihello17:00
mriedemo/17:00
gibilet's get started. if others join later they can read back :)17:01
gibiweekly status mail: #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122589.html17:01
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gibiThe first thing I'd like to talk about is the apiu.fault notification17:02
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gibiI have a bug open  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/169911517:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1699115 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "api.fault notification is never emitted" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)17:02
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gibiand an ML post asking for way forward17:02
gibihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118639.html17:02
gibias I got none I went forward and proposed on of the possible way forward17:03
gibihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/505164/ Remove dead code of17:03
gibiapi.fault notification sending17:03
mriedemis this both legacy and versioned?17:03
gibiit is just legacy17:03
gibiI realized that is not emitted for a long time when we tried to transform it to versioned17:03
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gibiit is definetly not emitted since v2.0 is supported through v2.1 code base17:05
mriedemok, so reading the commit message, it sounds like we regressed this when doing the 2.1 wsgi layer17:05
gibiyes, I think so17:05
mriedemwhich isn't surprising if it wasn't tested as a stack17:05
gibiso my proposal is to simply drop state that api.fault notfication is not a thing17:07
gibis/drop//17:07
mriedemadded in 2012 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13288/17:07
mriedemfor rax, when they were v2, and i don't think rax ever got to the point of supporting/using microversions17:08
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy or mikal might know the details there17:08
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gibido you imply that we might actually want to fix this old regression?17:08
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mriedemno, just collecting data17:09
gibiOK17:09
gibiI can ask the guys if they see any use of api.fault17:09
mriedemsorry just leaving comments on the change17:09
mriedemneither of those guys work at rackspace anymore17:10
mriedembut they might know about this17:10
gibisure17:10
mriedemdid your ML thread cross post to the ops list?17:11
mriedemnope17:11
gibiactually not, so that would be good as wekk17:11
gibiwell17:11
mriedemyeah, so i can reply and cross post it, and say we are going to remove it if no one speaks up17:11
gibithat works for me17:12
gibilets move on17:13
gibithe next is a friendly reminder that the bdm optimization patches are actually ready https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/171822617:13
gibiand now tight to a bug instead of a bp17:14
mriedemyeah, that's on my list,17:14
mriedembut so are lots of things17:14
gibicool17:14
gibiI mean that it is cool that is on the list :)17:15
gibianyhow moving on17:15
gibiI've just realized that the our transformation burndown chart needs to move to openshift 317:15
gibiand openshift 3 does not have cron jobs in the free account17:15
gibiso I actually have to find another free hosting17:16
gibiit means that the burndown might be unavailable after 30th for a while17:16
mriedemah17:16
mriedemmaybe ask sdague what he used for the api-ref burndown chart?17:17
gibiI can do that17:17
mriedemit might have been his own server though17:17
mriedemanother option is maybe openstack-infra has ideas for hosting17:17
gibiI could use my raspberry but that only has dynamic dns and that is filtered in some part of the world17:17
gibiI will ask sdague and keep the raspberry as option B17:18
gibiOK, moving on17:18
gibilast item on my list is Takashi's comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475860/17:19
gibiin short I'm proposing to use common json pieces for the notification samples to avoid duplications17:19
gibibut it has a side effect17:19
gibithe common json sample fragment might not what we want to show in the doc as sample17:20
mriedemah yeah, that could get confusing...17:21
gibias it might not 100% a real sample becuase some of the parts are replaced during the test execution only17:21
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gibiI'm still in the process of thinking about possible solutions17:21
gibione is to store the replacement as file as well17:22
gibiand applied the those replacements not only in the test execution but also during the doc generatiion17:22
gibithis means more files :/17:22
mriedemthat might be more trouble than it's worth17:22
gibiyepp17:22
mriedemand it's confusing and complicated17:22
mriedemfor new contributors17:22
gibibasically we now have 80 lines of duplicated sample for 8 lines of difference17:23
gibifor each event_type17:24
gibiso I still want to reduce that duplication if possible17:24
gibibut I'm a bit stuck about the how17:24
mriedemcan you remove the problem fields from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452819/11/doc/notification_samples/payloads/InstanceActionPayload.json ?17:25
mriedemlike task_state, power_state, vm_state?17:25
mriedemor, provide a way to override what's in the template in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475860/5/doc/notification_samples/instance-power_off-end.json ?17:26
gibihm, that mean I have to merge json fragments instead of combining them. but most probably doable17:26
mriedemor would those show up twice?17:26
gibiwe anyhow have our own jsonref implementation so we can tweak that not to duplicate fields17:26
gibiand then we should not call it jsonref any more :)17:27
mriedemgibiref17:27
gibilol17:27
gibiI feel that this could work. thanks for the idea, I will dig into it17:27
gibithat was my last item for today. Do you have things to discuss?17:28
mriedemnope17:28
mriedemjust trying to do some scale testing for dan's instance list changes17:28
mriedemso we have a benchmark17:28
gibiI'm wondering if we want to make that a ci job for some performance testing17:29
mriedemthere is or was a rally ci job at one point17:29
gibiit can even uncover bugs that only apperas if lot of instances booted in parallel17:29
mriedemand tempest used to have the largeops job that would create 300 instances at a time, 3 times in a row17:29
mriedembut we didn't want either as voting since they were too unpredictable17:30
mriedemwhat we'd really need is something that runs periodically and posts results so we can see trends17:30
gibiI guess your trial with fakedriver is more predictable as it doesn't really spawn instances17:30
sdagueit was on my own server, that being said, I'd be fine hosting something else if we have pattern here for the burndowns17:30
gibisdague: thanks for the offer.17:31
gibithe notification burndown is a fork of your api ref burndown17:31
gibiit is a static html + some json data generated periodically17:32
gibihttps://github.com/gibizer/nova-versioned-notification-transformation-burndown17:32
gibiit has some glue stuff for openshift 2 but that will be useless after end of this month17:34
gibianyhow I think we can sort out the details outside of this meeting17:36
gibiif nothing else then I will close the meeting17:36
gibithen thanks for the discussion17:37
gibi#endmeeting17:37
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mriedemthanks gibi17:37
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