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| usman | hi | 07:57 |
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| ifat_afek | usman: Hi :-) Are you here for the Vitrage meeting? I will start it in two minutes | 07:58 |
| usman | yes Ifat | 07:58 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 08:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi everyone! | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:00 |
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| annarez | Hi | 08:00 |
| usman | hi | 08:01 |
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| danoffek | Hi | 08:02 |
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| najjar | hey hey | 08:02 |
| nivolas | hello | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda (at bit long): | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | •Denver PTG | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Vitrage Virtual PTG | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Sydney Summit | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Denver PTG | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Denver PTG (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
| ifat_afek | Two weeks ago I attended the PTG in Denver. It was very productive. A very short recap: | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | I got technical help from the QA and infra teams and regarding the Queens goals – move the tempest tests to a separate repository, and support policy in code. | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/index.html | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | I participated in a self-healing meeting | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | The purpose of this meeting was to suggest self-healing use cases and architecture that involves several OpenStack projects like: Vitrage, Mistral, Ceilometer/Aodh/Gnocchi, Heat, Monasca, Congress, Masakari, Freezer, Senlin, Watcher… | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | The decision was to create a SIG (Special Interest Group) and continue the discussions via IRC and in Sydney summit. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-queens-ptg | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-rocky-forum | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Other than that – I had a meeting with Congress team: Eric Kao and Masahito Muri. We discussed a possible integration of Vitrage and Congress. | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | It can be done, but it is less trivial than I expected (requires changes in Congress), and I’m not sure if it’s the highest priority of any of our projects. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Last thing – I had an interview about Vitrage. I talked about Pike features and Queens plans. I don’t know if it was published already. | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Any questions/comments? | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Vitrage Virtual PTG | 08:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vitrage Virtual PTG (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:07 | |
| ifat_afek | We will hold the Vitrage virtual PTG on Tue-Wed October 17-18, and optionally (probably?) continue on the 19th. | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | The current list of topics is in the etherpad: | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-queens | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | You are welcome to suggest new topics, or to write +1 on topics that you are interested in. | 08:07 |
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| ifat_afek | I’ll try to go over the etherpad later today and suggest a schedule. I’ll send it over the email | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | BTW, an important note - the next *two* IRC meetings will be canceled due to the holidays in Israel. So we actually won’t meet again until the virtual PTG… | 08:10 |
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| yujunz | OK... | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | We can, if you want, schedule an alternative meeting on our own IRC channel | 08:10 |
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| ifat_afek | yujunz: We are going to work next week on October 1-3, and some of us will also work on October 8-10. Our holidays will end at October 15 | 08:11 |
| yujunz | OK, we have holidays on Oct 1-8 | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | So we can have a meeting on October 9/10 (with very few participants) | 08:12 |
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| ifat_afek | I forgot to mention that we have a day-out at work on October 16 ;-) | 08:13 |
| yujunz | Happy outing. Where do you plan to go? | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | And I think we need to close the virtual PTG schedule by tomorrow | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Not sure. danoffek? | 08:13 |
| danoffek | About the plan : | 08:13 |
| danoffek | You can join us if you're here | 08:14 |
| danoffek | We are going to the north of the country, to a trip to Dvora waterfall | 08:14 |
| yujunz | Thanks for the invitation. I should book a flight ticket right now :-) | 08:14 |
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| danoffek | But will stop before that to take a dive in a small, cold water gathering | 08:14 |
| danoffek | With alcohol | 08:14 |
| danoffek | And afterwards, we are going Kayaking in the north | 08:15 |
| danoffek | Tell me if you need help with the tickets | 08:15 |
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| ifat_afek | I need help with a visa to Australia. Do you handle this too? ;-) | 08:15 |
| danoffek | For a small fee... | 08:15 |
| danoffek | For Yujun it's free | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | :-) | 08:16 |
| yujunz | I'm so flattered, danoffek | 08:17 |
| danoffek | :) | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | So yujunz, do you want to work on the PTG schedule now, or offline? I think offline might be easier. We can discuss the schedule via email | 08:17 |
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| yujunz | I prefer offiline | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, so let’s move on | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Sydney Summit | 08:17 |
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| ifat_afek | eyalb and I are supposed to attend the Sydney summit. Anyone else? | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | We are going to have two sessions about Vitrage: | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19508/advanced-fault-management-with-vitrage-and-mistral | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19473/vitrage-project-updates | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Regarding the session with Mistral – I am looking for cool use cases, so let me know if you have any | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Besides that, we can suggest topics for Forum sessions. But if it’s just eyalb and me, I don’t see a point in doing so. | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | Anything else regarding Sydney? | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:20 |
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| ifat_afek | I’ll start with the great news - the ‘single-vendor’ flag was removed from Vitrage :-) | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks to ZTE involvement, and mostly thanks to Yujun | 08:20 |
| eyalb | +2 | 08:21 |
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| yujunz | Glad to hear that :-) | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | I have no other updates. I spent most of my time preparing to summits and trying to get a visa to Australia | 08:21 |
| annarez | it's great!! | 08:21 |
| najjar | i will update | 08:22 |
| najjar | about the HA & History feature... | 08:22 |
| najjar | #link https://docs.openstack.org/vitrage/latest/contributor/vitrage-ha-and-history-vision.html | 08:22 |
| najjar | we had a meeting in last Monday about clarifying what is the vision in Vitrage and should be done. | 08:22 |
| najjar | me and Idan (idan_hefetz) seat and plan what are the future tasks. | 08:22 |
| najjar | we decided to start with implementing the persistor | 08:22 |
| najjar | (listen to the events from the controller and push them to the DB) | 08:23 |
| najjar | that's it... thanks :) | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | najjar: Great, thanks | 08:23 |
| annarez | I'll update | 08:25 |
| annarez | my vitrage id change is finally merged | 08:25 |
| annarez | now the logic of vitrage id is in the transformer instead of the processor and graph | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Much better | 08:26 |
| idan_hefetz | my update | 08:27 |
| idan_hefetz | sqlalchemy infrastructure is merged | 08:27 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504917/ | 08:27 |
| idan_hefetz | This will allow for a few new features, including the persistor and template crud and a few more | 08:28 |
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| idan_hefetz | Also regarding the networkx 2 version, we should figure out how and if at all this requires support for queens | 08:29 |
| idan_hefetz | in pike it is not supported and we should add <2 to the requires.txt | 08:29 |
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| idan_hefetz | that it, thanks :) | 08:30 |
| nivolas | Another update, | 08:30 |
| nivolas | i have added the support to include definition templates within templates, to avoid repetition of definitions | 08:31 |
| nivolas | these definitions can then be used to create new scenarios | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek | nivolas: Thanks. It can save some copy-paste in the templates | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek | BTW, one question that was raised was if and how it is related to the entity equivalence feature | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | yujunz: Do you have any insights? | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | My initial thought were that it’s not related, but now I’m not sure | 08:33 |
| yujunz | I haven't think it over yet | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. I don’t think that there is a conflict; but maybe some things can be common, or related somehow | 08:34 |
| yujunz | I may consider it when I design the validator for these templates | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | The validator for the equivalence templates? nivolas already implemented the validator for the definition templates | 08:35 |
| yujunz | Yes, for equivalence | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, makes sense | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | I notice that you also added this issue to the PTG etherpad | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else wants to update? | 08:37 |
| yujunz | I don't have updates this week, was busy with OPNFV releasing. | 08:38 |
| ifat_afek | Was it a final release of the E-release? | 08:38 |
| yujunz | First release on Oct 6 | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks | 08:39 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:39 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other issue you would like to discuss? | 08:39 |
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| usman | Ifat I want to work on Sensu datasource blueprint | 08:43 |
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| ifat_afek | Sounds great | 08:43 |
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| usman | In case I require some assistance to whom I need to reach? | 08:43 |
| usman | Because I don't have any prior experience of contributing | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | You can send an email to openstack-dev with [vitrage] tag, you can contact us on #openstack-vitrage, or you can email me | 08:44 |
| ifat_afek | What ever is more convinient | 08:44 |
| ifat_afek | And we will all be happy to help | 08:44 |
| usman | okay thanks. I will try to start working on it. | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | Are you using Sensu? | 08:45 |
| usman | No. I am not using Sensu but I can test in our testbed | 08:45 |
| ifat_afek | Ok. We thought of supporting it a while ago, but didn’t get to it. It will be great if you add this datasource | 08:46 |
| usman | Ok I will try to contribute on Sensu Datasource | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Great | 08:47 |
| ifat_afek | Any other issue, anyone? | 08:47 |
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| eyalb | (ό‿ὸ)ﾉ | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | Nice!! | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | Bye :-) | 08:49 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 08:49:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-09-27-08.00.html | 08:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-09-27-08.00.txt | 08:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-09-27-08.00.log.html | 08:50 |
| usman | bye | 08:50 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 27 15:59:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:59 |
| inc0 | #topic w00t! | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w00t! (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:59 | |
| inc0 | \o/ wooo! | 15:59 |
| egonzalez90 | wO0t! | 16:00 |
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| spsurya__ | w00t!\0/ | 16:00 |
| krtaylor_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | woot | 16:00 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
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| hrw | morning | 16:01 |
| duonghq | \o\ /o/ -o- | 16:01 |
| duonghq | evening guys | 16:01 |
| britthouser | 0/ | 16:01 |
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| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | I don't have any:) | 16:03 |
| inc0 | community? | 16:03 |
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| vhosakot | o/ | 16:03 |
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| coolsvap | o/ | 16:03 |
| inc0 | guess not | 16:03 |
| inc0 | #topic ptg recap continued | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ptg recap continued (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| inc0 | afair we didn't do kolla-k8s last time | 16:03 |
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| britthouser | that's what I remember | 16:04 |
| inc0 | so biggest one was https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-k8s-release-roadmap | 16:04 |
| inc0 | we revised 1.0 requirements | 16:04 |
| inc0 | I won't dig into that today | 16:05 |
| britthouser | Should we make each of those main bullets into a blueprint? or? | 16:06 |
| inc0 | we also met with tripleo guys and discussed cooperation - there seems to be lots of potential there, but tripleo needs to design their k8s model | 16:06 |
| inc0 | britthouser, well, we don't have to | 16:06 |
| britthouser | sounds good. | 16:06 |
| inc0 | process is for us, not we for it | 16:07 |
| inc0 | I, for one, like lightweight form etherpads | 16:07 |
| inc0 | anyway, that's what we need to do over next 6 months | 16:07 |
| inc0 | since there is no value to release 1.0 prior to release of openstack | 16:07 |
| inc0 | (well less than 6 months) | 16:07 |
| duonghq | inc0, so, we cannot share our design with tripleo? | 16:08 |
| inc0 | bottom line, we're aiming for Rocky | 16:08 |
| inc0 | Queens* | 16:08 |
| inc0 | duonghq, well, some of it yes, but they aren't interested in helm | 16:08 |
| duonghq | how about our k8s resources? | 16:08 |
| inc0 | helm renders them | 16:09 |
| inc0 | our k8s resources are represented as helm charts | 16:09 |
| duonghq | understood | 16:09 |
| inc0 | they can use this knowledge tho, and I thin they will | 16:09 |
| inc0 | anyway, let's move on | 16:09 |
| inc0 | #topic ansible-become and keystone upgrade (duonghq) | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ansible-become and keystone upgrade (duonghq) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:10 | |
| inc0 | shoot duonghq | 16:10 |
| duonghq | ah, nice, thank inc0 | 16:10 |
| duonghq | first, about the ansible-become bp, it's from last 2 cycle | 16:11 |
| duonghq | so, due to it's beginning of Q, can somebody let it merge, and we will fix issue (if any) soon | 16:11 |
| duonghq | due to it's not a small change | 16:11 |
| duonghq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/ | 16:11 |
| duonghq | it's 1st ps | 16:12 |
| duonghq | can I get some opinions? | 16:13 |
| inc0 | I'll review it first thing after meeting | 16:14 |
| duonghq | thank inc0 | 16:14 |
| duonghq | about my 2nd topic, | 16:14 |
| duonghq | implement upgrade mechanism of Keystone | 16:14 |
| duonghq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ | 16:14 |
| duonghq | this ps does not reach zero-downtime acctually (due to container restart at the same time) | 16:15 |
| duonghq | but it's 1st step to implement mechanism from keystone, | 16:15 |
| duonghq | the 2nd step is create new repo for ansible plugins | 16:16 |
| duonghq | and apply new strategy | 16:16 |
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| duonghq | I hope that I can push it soon in Q | 16:16 |
| inc0 | or document to use --forks 1 | 16:16 |
| duonghq | inc0, or integrate it in our CLI? | 16:16 |
| duonghq | as default option | 16:16 |
| inc0 | forks 1 should never be default | 16:17 |
| inc0 | it will make deployment at scale incredibly long | 16:17 |
| britthouser | is there a way to make it default for only upgrade playbooks? | 16:17 |
| inc0 | we don't want to make it default there too | 16:18 |
| duonghq | so, I think 1.5st step is add the documentation to use --forks 1 (before we can figure out some way to do better solution) | 16:18 |
| inc0 | because for this single use case it will make upgrade well...incredibly long | 16:18 |
| egonzalez90 | will make compute upgrades long too | 16:18 |
| inc0 | and time is even more critical in upgrade scenario | 16:18 |
| britthouser | yeah I guess not all upgrades need to be sequential like that. | 16:18 |
| inc0 | only this single service really | 16:19 |
| duonghq | sure | 16:19 |
| inc0 | also downtime we're looking at is sub-secondf | 16:19 |
| duonghq | hmm, we need it for any service which implemented zero-downtime mechanism by their self | 16:19 |
| inc0 | technically we can just drain connections for this task | 16:19 |
| inc0 | if we impmelent haproxy connection draining | 16:20 |
| duonghq | inc0, you mean we do it at haproxy-layer? | 16:20 |
| inc0 | right | 16:20 |
| inc0 | that will be apparent zero downtime | 16:20 |
| inc0 | rabbitmq will handle non-api services | 16:20 |
| duonghq | so we need draining the connection, a little buffering and we get zero-downtime? | 16:20 |
| inc0 | between draining and graceful shutdown we should be good | 16:21 |
| duonghq | we still have small time windows when we do not have any api-service available | 16:21 |
| duonghq | and haproxy doesn't have retry ability | 16:21 |
| egonzalez90 | Yeah, but need allow admin socket in haproxy | 16:21 |
| egonzalez90 | Sec guys will not like that | 16:21 |
| inc0 | during service restarts you'll always have this risk | 16:22 |
| inc0 | well, let's do research ok? | 16:22 |
| duonghq | nice | 16:22 |
| inc0 | I mean for full zero downtime we'll need that anyway | 16:22 |
| inc0 | to make sure haproxy won't forwards requests to api while it's restarting | 16:23 |
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| inc0 | there's always lag between service down and haproxy noticing that | 16:23 |
| duonghq | in other words, we need haproxy hold the request for awhile | 16:23 |
| inc0 | and with our speed whole upgrade of container can be faster than this notice period | 16:24 |
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| duonghq | so, I'll try and get you some measure | 16:24 |
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| inc0 | thanks Duong | 16:24 |
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| duonghq | btw, from Boston summit, I have a small demo about buffering layer | 16:25 |
| duonghq | ok, that's all from me | 16:25 |
| duonghq | :) | 16:25 |
| duonghq | after finish with keystone, I'll move to neutron | 16:26 |
| egonzalez90 | keystone change worked, duonghq and myself tested during PTG | 16:26 |
| inc0 | #topic Doc restructure (krtaylor) | 16:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc restructure (krtaylor) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:26 | |
| inc0 | krtaylor you ahve the floor | 16:27 |
| krtaylor_ | Thanks inc0 | 16:27 |
| krtaylor_ | Quick update: I created an etherpad and blueprint for the doc restructure work this cycle | 16:27 |
| krtaylor_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-doc-restructure | 16:27 |
| egonzalez90 | I think is good as it is now to merge | 16:27 |
| krtaylor_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/queens-doc-restructure | 16:27 |
| krtaylor_ | I also sent an email to the list last week with all this info | 16:28 |
| krtaylor_ | and there is a patch that includes all the ToC changes that we discussed at PTG | 16:28 |
| krtaylor_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504801 | 16:28 |
| krtaylor_ | that is looking pretty good | 16:29 |
| krtaylor_ | next step is to get interested folks to jump into the etherpad and put their name next to a section they'd like to rework/refresh or add a section | 16:29 |
| krtaylor_ | Else I'll just keep chipping away at it | 16:29 |
| inc0 | right, let's all help Kurt, I can't stress enough how important it is | 16:30 |
| britthouser | count me in. | 16:30 |
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| inc0 | anything else krtaylor_ ? | 16:31 |
| coolsvap | +1 | 16:31 |
| krtaylor_ | Cool! Thanks everyone - there is some good work that already exists | 16:31 |
| egonzalez90 | +1 | 16:31 |
| inc0 | so few more remarks from me | 16:31 |
| inc0 | as soon as we get our images published to dockerhub | 16:31 |
| krtaylor_ | That we need to go through, but if everyone can review and get what we have closed out so we can move forward, or put all notes in etherpad | 16:32 |
| krtaylor_ | Anyway, thats about all I have | 16:32 |
| inc0 | I'll rework quickstart to skip build part at all (for kolla-ansible) | 16:32 |
| krtaylor_ | I haven't touched koala-ansible at all yet | 16:32 |
| britthouser | makes sense. | 16:33 |
| krtaylor_ | kolla-ansible that is | 16:33 |
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| inc0 | ok, can we move on? | 16:33 |
| krtaylor_ | Fine with me, thanks inc0 | 16:33 |
| inc0 | #topic rabbitmq clustering crysis | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rabbitmq clustering crysis (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:34 | |
| spsurya__ | krtaylor_: for kolla-ansible https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507004/ | 16:34 |
| inc0 | I took liberty of injecting my own topic;) | 16:34 |
| inc0 | so we need to fix rabbitmq | 16:34 |
| inc0 | it was misbehaving a lot lately | 16:34 |
| inc0 | and rabbitmq clusterer is deprecated upstream | 16:34 |
| inc0 | clustering now is part of rabbitmq core | 16:34 |
| inc0 | which means we should rework our rabbitmq deployment | 16:35 |
| inc0 | can I have volunteer to take this one? | 16:35 |
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| inc0 | :( | 16:35 |
| coolsvap | I will look into it | 16:36 |
| inc0 | our current state https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgj3nZWtOfA | 16:36 |
| inc0 | thanks coolsvap | 16:36 |
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| inc0 | ok, that's it from me:) | 16:37 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:37 | |
| krtaylor_ | spsurya__, I added that to the etherpad, thanks! | 16:37 |
| britthouser | I have one thing. | 16:38 |
| * jamesbenson run away! ...grabs the holy grenade... | 16:38 | |
| inc0 | shoot britthouser | 16:38 |
| britthouser | I remember awhile back some teams moved their meetings into their team channel. I wondered what folks here thought about doing that? So we'd run this meeting in #openstack-kolla instead of #openstack-meeting-4 | 16:38 |
| hrw | easier to not miss or to read meeting notes from logs | 16:39 |
| jamesbenson | agreed +1 from me | 16:40 |
| hrw | I log all channels/queries to local hdd | 16:40 |
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| inc0 | which teams do that now? | 16:40 |
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| hrw | so that way even if I was not on a meeting I can read log next day without checking where to find it | 16:40 |
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| krtaylor_ | Does our channel have the meeting (logs) bot added? | 16:41 |
| britthouser | I'd have to check @inc0. It was months ago, when the time slots in the meeting channels were getting full. | 16:41 |
| jascott1 | -1 cause its not separate but +1 cause I can catch up in slack if need be | 16:41 |
| inc0 | please do britthouser | 16:41 |
| inc0 | having separate meeting room has it's merits | 16:42 |
| jamesbenson | I have a qq as well. I think last week or the week before. we talked about external ceph. I'm working on an ansible script but wondering if anyone else was doing the same? | 16:42 |
| britthouser | Ok will do. Something to think about, don't have to decide today. Just wanted to put it out there for our subconciouses to mull over. | 16:42 |
| krtaylor_ | I would prefer to have a meeting log, but don't care what channel it is in | 16:42 |
| inc0 | people wont join in the middle | 16:42 |
| coolsvap | britthouser: I think one of the advantage of having official meeting channels is people are kinda subscribed to them, so if we need someone during the meeting there is more chance we will find them in official meeting channels than looking for them | 16:42 |
| inc0 | all meetings are logged | 16:42 |
| hrw | bye | 16:42 |
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| coolsvap | thats one thing but I am fine with being held in openstack-kolla channel | 16:43 |
| inc0 | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/ | 16:43 |
| spsurya__ | krtaylor_: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting-4/ | 16:43 |
| spsurya__ | you always have | 16:43 |
| krtaylor_ | +1 as long as we can start meeting/endmeeting etc | 16:43 |
| inc0 | you have this link in meeting wiki | 16:43 |
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| krtaylor_ | Yes, as long as we'd keep that in -kolla, I'm +1 | 16:44 |
| inc0 | I think we do | 16:44 |
| inc0 | anyway, that's for later | 16:44 |
| * britthouser yields the floor | 16:44 | |
| coolsvap | inc0: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118899.html | 16:45 |
| coolsvap | fyui | 16:45 |
| coolsvap | fyi* | 16:45 |
| inc0 | thanks coolsvap that's helpful | 16:45 |
| inc0 | anyone else has anything for open discussion? | 16:46 |
| jamesbenson | I think last week or the week before. we talked about external ceph. I'm working on an ansible script but wondering if anyone else was doing the same? | 16:46 |
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| inc0 | sorry you said that before jamesbenson :( | 16:47 |
| inc0 | well there is ceph-ansible | 16:47 |
| jamesbenson | no worries | 16:47 |
| inc0 | https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible | 16:47 |
| jamesbenson | okay, I know I had issues with ceph-ansible, I thought I remember others mentioning the same. But if we are moving that way, no problem :-) | 16:48 |
| inc0 | but people report mixed results' | 16:48 |
| inc0 | we don't know yet | 16:48 |
| inc0 | current plan is that we upgrade to L | 16:48 |
| jamesbenson | yeah, this is an ansible ceph-deploy method, not ceph's ansible deploy | 16:48 |
| inc0 | so queens is L | 16:48 |
| inc0 | and then, before Q is released we decide to either keep ceph deployment or deprecate it | 16:49 |
| jamesbenson | yeah I got L currently as external, it's very nice and ^_^ | 16:49 |
| inc0 | if we deprecate it, removal will coincide with next LTS ceph release | 16:49 |
| inc0 | so M wouldn't be in Kolla any more | 16:49 |
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| inc0 | on one hand I'd like not having ceph, on the other we need 1. easy and reliable ceph deployment mechanism | 16:50 |
| inc0 | 2. migration path from our current deployment | 16:50 |
| jamesbenson | okay, so a few months before we figure out anything. Are the ceph guys working with us on incorporating it at all? | 16:50 |
| inc0 | yes, we talked to them and we'll work together to figure it out | 16:50 |
| jamesbenson | cool | 16:50 |
| jamesbenson | Pike isn't going to get L at all though, correct? | 16:51 |
| inc0 | no | 16:51 |
| inc0 | well, since you use external | 16:51 |
| inc0 | it doesn't really matter for you | 16:51 |
| jamesbenson | we do lots of deploys. ;-) | 16:51 |
| inc0 | but kolla-deployed pike is Jewel | 16:51 |
| inc0 | ok, sorry;) | 16:51 |
| inc0 | what I wanted to say is client-side shouldn't really matter | 16:51 |
| jamesbenson | yeah | 16:52 |
| jamesbenson | that's all for me then | 16:52 |
| jamesbenson | just wanted that status update | 16:52 |
| jamesbenson | thanks | 16:52 |
| inc0 | ceph, in my book, is as important as mariadb | 16:52 |
| inc0 | or almost as important | 16:52 |
| jamesbenson | both definitely play critical roles. | 16:53 |
| inc0 | and I don't see us getting rid of mariadb deploy anytime soon | 16:53 |
| inc0 | so I wouldn't be surprised if we actually keep the ceph | 16:53 |
| inc0 | streamlined deployment experience is important | 16:53 |
| inc0 | ok, anyone else have a topic? | 16:54 |
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| inc0 | guess not | 16:55 |
| inc0 | thank you all | 16:55 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 27 16:56:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-09-27-15.59.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-09-27-15.59.txt | 16:56 |
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