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| nivolas | hi | 07:56 |
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| annarez | hi | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 1 08:02:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:02 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi | 08:02 |
| eyalb | (ό‿ὸ)ﾉ | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:05 | |
| ifat_afek | New releases were created for vitrage, based on stable/pike: | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | vitrage 1.8.2 | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | python-vitrage client 1.4.0 | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | The Sydney summit is next weeks. There will be two sessions about Vitrage: | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19508/advanced-fault-management-with-vitrage-and-mistral | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19473/vitrage-project-updates | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | I’m almost done preparing the Vitrage-Mistral demo. Now working on the presentations. | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | As part of preparing the demo, I found a few bugs: | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | 1.UI (already fixed by Alon): in the entity graph when selecting a specific Heat stack, the alarm icons were changed to heat stack icons | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | 2. UI (already fixed by Alon): in the entity graph properties area, the name was missing, and the user could see the internal is_real_vitrage_id flag | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | 3. The UI shows placeholder entities. Not sure why. It seems like a new bug. | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | This bug has two parts actually – one is to change the API query, and the other is to identify why we have placeholder vertices (this is supposed to be a temporary situation). | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | It is related to neutron.port datasource. The transformer assumes that the port neighbor is always an instance, but apparently this is not the case. | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | 1.Then, placeholder/dummy instances are created and stay in the graph. | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | The last “1” was a mistake | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | A more significant issue that I realized is that the integration with Mistral is lacking. | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | Currently, in the template file you can ask to execute a workflow with specific pre-defined parameters. But you can not pass a dynamic parameter, like the current instance. | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | I’ll create a blueprint for that, probably after I’m back from Sydney | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:09 |
| annarez | I'll update | 08:10 |
| annarez | I'm working on adjusting Vitrage to networkx 2.0 with backward compatibility to 1.1<networkx<2.0 | 08:10 |
| annarez | Apparently the networkx teem published very good documentation for the new version | 08:10 |
| annarez | we have open bug on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/+bug/1718576 | 08:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1718576 in Solar "Handle networkx 2.0 update" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rajat Sharma (tajar29) | 08:11 |
| annarez | that's it :) | 08:11 |
| idan_hefetz | my update | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | Parallel template evaluation is merged, default number of workers is currently 1, but we may wish to change this later on. | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | To configure this, under [evaluator] add workers=x | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | btw, thanks for the reviews :) | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks for the change ;-) | 08:13 |
| idan_hefetz | I still have two issue to solve, and to add documentation | 08:13 |
| idan_hefetz | that it | 08:14 |
| idan_hefetz | that's it | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks. Anyone else? | 08:15 |
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| ifat_afek | BTW, I suggest that in the next meeting we go over the roadmap and tasks that we decided on in the PTG, and check the current status | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-queens | 08:18 |
| nivolas | yes | 08:18 |
| nivolas | i added support for regular expressions when defining entities in the templates | 08:19 |
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| nivolas | this fixed in issue with Zabbix alarams that had regular expressions implemented in them (as Zabbix has added support for regular expression) | 08:19 |
| nivolas | thats it | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates? | 08:22 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:23 | |
| ifat_afek | Anything? | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | Then let’s close the meeting | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | Bye :-) | 08:25 |
| annarez | bye | 08:26 |
| nivolas | bye! | 08:26 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 1 08:26:20 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-11-01-08.02.html | 08:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-11-01-08.02.txt | 08:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-11-01-08.02.log.html | 08:26 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 1 13:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | takashin: looks like just two of us | 13:01 |
| takashin | oh... | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | gmann's spec merged last week | 13:01 |
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| alex_xu | and I see he already begin the work | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-extensions-merge-queens | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | hope I can help him next week | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | takashin: will you go to the sydney | 13:02 |
| takashin | Yes, I will. | 13:02 |
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| alex_xu | takashin: great | 13:03 |
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| alex_xu | I'm not :) | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | takashin: I don't have anything want on the agenda | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | do you have anything? | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | otherwise let us close the meeting | 13:03 |
| takashin | nothing from my side. | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | ok, thanks | 13:04 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 1 13:04:26 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-11-01-13.00.html | 13:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-11-01-13.00.txt | 13:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-11-01-13.00.log.html | 13:04 |
| takashin | Thank you. | 13:04 |
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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 1 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | o/ | 14:00 |
| Yumeng__ | hi | 14:00 |
| suzhengwei | hi | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | let's begin our meeting, team :) | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | #announcements | 14:01 |
| alexchadin | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:02 | |
| alexchadin | Watcher Queens-1 has been released #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513451/ | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | We have completed 2 blueprints of 7 actually | 14:02 |
| alexchadin | part of them caused long discussions | 14:03 |
| alexchadin | and we had complications with migration from jenkins to zuulv3 | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | unfortunately, CI is still unstable for now | 14:04 |
| alexchadin | any other announcements? | 14:06 |
| suzhengwei | The haproxy problem reapear in my another env. | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: what's wrong with it? | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: have you tried to use watcher along with haproxy? | 14:08 |
| suzhengwei | yes | 14:08 |
| suzhengwei | It doesn't work. | 14:08 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: this isn't surprising, we haven't tested it with haproxy yet ;) | 14:09 |
| Yumeng__ | any error message? | 14:09 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: could you please report a bug with description of problem? | 14:10 |
| suzhengwei | I have reported the bug. | 14:10 |
| suzhengwei | https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1726725 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1726725 in watcher "watcher-api haproxy problem" [Undecided,New] | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: thanks, will take a look | 14:13 |
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| alexchadin | well, let's move on | 14:14 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:14 |
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| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 14:14 |
| alexchadin | listen to all necessary notifications needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508105/ | 14:14 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: my bad, I see you've just updated it | 14:15 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I'll review it | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508105/ | 14:16 |
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| alexchadin | compute CDM include all instances needs to be discussed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499119/ | 14:17 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: have you discussed it with hidekazu? | 14:18 |
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| suzhengwei | No | 14:19 |
| Yumeng__ | I once discussed with licanwei, but I need some time to recall. More than a week ago | 14:19 |
| Yumeng__ | suzhengwei : if you have time, we can discuss tomorrow | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: Yumeng__ it would be great if you discuss it | 14:21 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng__: ping me if I will be available | 14:21 |
| Yumeng__ | Ok | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | #action Yumeng__ suzhengwei discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499119/ | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | cluster-maintenance-strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464602/ | 14:22 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: I think we could review it again | 14:24 |
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| Yumeng__ | alexchadin: no problem 👌 | 14:25 |
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| alexchadin | #action alexchadin Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464602/ | 14:25 |
| alexchadin | exclude locked instances needs to be discussed with suzhengwei #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506078/ | 14:26 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: why don't you want to use optimize bool in metadata of nova instance like it's described here: https://github.com/openstack/watcher-specs/blob/master/specs/pike/implemented/audit-tag-vm-metadata.rst ? | 14:27 |
| suzhengwei | I have study the bp:audit-tag-vm-metadata, this is another same solution, but not work well. | 14:27 |
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| suzhengwei | I have test it. | 14:27 |
| suzhengwei | we can discuss more if we are free. | 14:28 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: agree | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | Add storage capacity balance Strategy needs to be updated #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501659/ | 14:30 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng__: you've got some comments | 14:32 |
| Yumeng__ | Yes yes | 14:32 |
| Yumeng__ | I will make some time to do it before I go to Sydney | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: I hope you will have some fun there ;) | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | #action Yumeng__ update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501659/ | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | Add Datasource Abstraction and Multi Datasource needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508384/ | 14:34 |
| Yumeng__ | It’s summer :) | 14:34 |
| Yumeng__ | there | 14:34 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: could you please review it? | 14:36 |
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| suzhengwei | ok | 14:36 |
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| alexchadin | #action suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508384/ | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | Add hardware maintenance goal and efficacy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509043/ | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | we shouldn't merge it yet | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | Migrate to Zuul v3 needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509777/ | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | I have some issues with it, it is to be updated | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | add name for audit, update audit notifications needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476752/ | 14:40 |
| alexchadin | I will review it | 14:41 |
| alexchadin | #action alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476752/ | 14:41 |
| suzhengwei | thx | 14:41 |
| Yumeng__ | alexchadin: I can review again —add name for audit | 14:42 |
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| Yumeng__ | But maybe later if not have enough time | 14:42 |
| suzhengwei | Yumeng__: thanks | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: review this part of naming, please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475324/ | 14:42 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: it's part of watcherclient | 14:43 |
| Yumeng__ | Ok | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: what status of your project update presentation? do you need my help? | 14:43 |
| Yumeng__ | I finished a draft | 14:44 |
| Yumeng__ | I Will send you email | 14:44 |
| Yumeng__ | If possible take a look | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: sure, waiting for mail | 14:46 |
| alexchadin | there are some bugs and fixes left: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#11.2F01.2F2017 | 14:46 |
| alexchadin | they should be updated with new PS or unit tests | 14:47 |
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| alexchadin | so, i'd prefer to end up our meeting if there aren't more questions | 14:47 |
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| alexchadin | thank you for attending :) | 14:48 |
| suzhengwei | bye | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | bye | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: have a nice Summit ;) | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 1 14:50:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-11-01-14.00.html | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-11-01-14.00.txt | 14:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-11-01-14.00.log.html | 14:50 |
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| Yumeng__ | Bye | 14:50 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 1 16:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic roll-call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:01 |
| chason | o/ | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | hi chason ;D | 16:01 |
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| chason | Jeffrey4l Hahah | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:01 |
| duonghq | hi vhosakot | 16:01 |
| rfxn | \o/ | 16:01 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | hi duonghq :) | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | let us wait another two minutes. | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | this will be a short meeting. | 16:02 |
| duonghq | ya, I have 2 topics | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, cool. | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | we have no scheduled topics today. | 16:03 |
| duonghq | ya, I forgot add to our schedule | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok. let us start. | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
| Jeffrey4l | Sydney summit will be hold next week. | 16:04 |
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| spsurya__ | 0/ | 16:05 |
| duonghq | ohhh, time flies too fast | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | so next meeting will be canceled. | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yes. | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | any other announcement from community? | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | let us start the open discuss directly. | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic open discuss | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discuss (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:07 | |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, your call. | 16:07 |
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| duonghq | thank you Jeffrey4l | 16:07 |
| duonghq | first one is quite simple | 16:07 |
| duonghq | I get this bug many time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1729246 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1729246 in kolla-ansible "MariaDB cluster fails to start after upgrade" [Undecided,New] | 16:07 |
| pbourke | o/ | 16:07 |
| duonghq | I run on 2 nodes with 6GB memory/node | 16:08 |
| duonghq | hi pbourke | 16:08 |
| duonghq | can somebody help me test this upgrade again | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, mariadb changed some thing recently. | 16:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | our upgrade process ( ansible roles ) should fix the gap. | 16:09 |
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| duonghq | so, can you triaged this bug? | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | the safe_to_bootstrap do not exist before. | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | sure. | 16:09 |
| duonghq | I cannot find any bug related to this issue | 16:09 |
| duonghq | thank Jeffrey4l | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | curiosity upgrade is failed. | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | anyway, i will check this. | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | thank you for pointing this out. | 16:10 |
| duonghq | :) | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | btw, there is another old bug report that possible data loss during mariadb recovery. | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1682153 | 16:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1682153 in kolla-ansible "mariadb_recovery is prone to data loss" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:11 |
| duonghq | sure, I saw that, seem that Sam proposed a fix for the bug | 16:12 |
| rfxn | that bug has bitten me before, that articulate bug report helped narrow down and recover cluster | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | no patch right now | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | but he propose a possible solution way in the description. | 16:12 |
| duonghq | we should implements his proposal | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. | 16:13 |
| duonghq | than let it roll for awhile | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | okay. please move on | 16:14 |
| duonghq | sure, | 16:14 |
| duonghq | so, my 2nd topic is about Kolla-ansible HA layer | 16:14 |
| duonghq | do anybody know why we use haproxy/keepalived for HA layer? | 16:15 |
| duonghq | but not pacemaker/corosync stack | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, pacemaker/corosync is more complicated. | 16:15 |
| rfxn | far more complicated | 16:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l | and iirc, pacemaker can not be containerized before ( now it should work ) | 16:16 |
| duonghq | but it provides some mechanism for react with the failure, like data plane evacuation | 16:16 |
| duonghq | it is invaluable feature (IMO) | 16:17 |
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| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, yes. pacemaker is powerful than keepalived. but what kind of issue we are facing by using keepalived. | 16:17 |
| duonghq | it just for add some functionality to our stack, | 16:18 |
| duonghq | I'm thinking in implement pacemaker into Kolla and let user choose which HA stack they want to use | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | that will be cool. pacemaker can handle more than keepalived. | 16:19 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, so, I'll create a blueprint for this, is it ok? | 16:20 |
| duonghq | and try to containerized pacemaker (again) | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | but i just afraid what it will take to Kolla. more better health check? or fail over? | 16:20 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sure. a blueprint is necessary for others to evaluate the possibility. | 16:21 |
| duonghq | about healthcheck, I'm not sure only it can make Kolla better | 16:21 |
| rfxn | pacemaker in kolla feels like a solution to a problem that doesn't yet exist; granted from a maturity standpoint eventually moving to pacemaker from keepalived is probably what needs to happen | 16:21 |
| duonghq | but I'm certainly about failover | 16:21 |
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| Jeffrey4l | please write what you think and the benefit. | 16:22 |
| duonghq | sure | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, tbh, i will current keepalived is enough. ;) | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think* | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | but who know what duonghq will take | 16:24 |
| rfxn | current, ya i think keepalived is more than enough -- time could be better spent on other areas of HA and Disaster Recovery instead of pacemaker atm | 16:24 |
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| duonghq | I think we can let user choose which stack they like, | 16:24 |
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| duonghq | rfxn, can you suggest some area? | 16:25 |
| rfxn | MariaDB is treated emphemeral right now, we put it behind a galera cluster and smile | 16:25 |
| rfxn | in reality, if you loose mysql data, your done | 16:25 |
| rfxn | we need a reliable, backup strategy for mariadb | 16:25 |
| rfxn | clustering = HA, backup = DR | 16:26 |
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| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, are u meaning use pacemaker as DR solution? | 16:27 |
| duonghq | I'm thinking it is slightly out of scope of Kolla | 16:27 |
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| rfxn | Jeffrey4l, no, im all for keepalive (now) and pacemaker (later, as a maturity point); duonghq asked some area to suggest, my thought is lack of backup solution for mariadb is the largest, most volatile gap, currently | 16:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | ah, got. | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | db backup is really necessary. | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | so please register a bp for this duonghq , and let us discuss base on the bp. | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks | 16:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | then any other topics? | 16:31 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, sure | 16:31 |
| rfxn | happy to help discuss and lay out options in that bp | 16:31 |
| duonghq | thank you rfxn | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | guess no topic. | 16:32 |
| rfxn | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/database-backup-recovery <- related | 16:32 |
| duonghq | rfxn, ah, it should be in kolla-ansible | 16:32 |
| duonghq | how do you think, Jeffrey4l | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | sure. | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | and xtrabackup should be the best solution. | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | the backup should run periodic. | 16:32 |
| rfxn | agreed xtrabackup/innobackupx with a few output options = win | 16:33 |
| rfxn | two smaller items; updating haproxy from 1.5 to 1.7 | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | and we can add this jobs into cron containers. and save the backups into a new docker volumes. | 16:33 |
| rfxn | and letsencrypt for automagick issuance of external_fqdn ssl certs | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | refer to backup, there are other ways to backup. like ceph pg map, crush rule. | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, what upgrade haproxy? | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | what/why | 16:35 |
| rfxn | 1.7 offers better ssl termination, http2, more advanced acl features, far more performant | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, letencrypt may be hard. because during sign new certs, it requires network connective and a public domain. | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, basically, package version in kolla based on the linux distro repo. | 16:37 |
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| rfxn | i dont think those are blockers, most production deployments are going to be on an external fqdn w/ internet access | 16:37 |
| rfxn | i have a poc with haproxy that routes letsencrypt CA challenge/response to a dedicated listener on network group systems | 16:37 |
| rfxn | so it never needs to touch the horizon container | 16:38 |
| rfxn | letsencrypt is a nice to have, maybe not a need to have :) | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep | 16:39 |
| rfxn | but would minimize the barrier to entry on new deployments imo | 16:39 |
| duonghq | rfxn, can you elaborate your point? about new deployments | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | and we can implement this in "kolla-ansible certifications" command. | 16:40 |
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| rfxn | SSL certificates, valid browser recognized CA certificates, are the norm on any production ready deployment. Right now, managing SSL certificates is a pain, prone to human error and nothing should ever be internet facing without a valid cert. | 16:42 |
| rfxn | letsencrypt allows us to automate the process entirely, in very trivial way | 16:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | letsencrypt is a gread service ;p | 16:43 |
| duonghq | rfxn, thank you for teach me this | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | great* | 16:43 |
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| rfxn | not trying to preach, just speak aloud that imo automagick ssl certificates would set kolla apart and remove a human error prone component for the stack | 16:43 |
| rfxn | e.g azure going down cause of forgetting to renew api connector certs :P | 16:43 |
| Jeffrey4l | lol | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, will you add such feature into kolla? | 16:44 |
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| rfxn | i can bp it | 16:45 |
| rfxn | and we go from there | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. thanks. | 16:46 |
| rfxn | and happy to share out my ugly code as poc :) | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | rfxn, thanks for sharing ;D | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey4l | any other topics? | 16:47 |
| duonghq | rfxn, poc is always has many idea | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | guess no. let us end the meeting. | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks for all coming. | 16:48 |
| Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 1 16:48:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-11-01-16.00.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-11-01-16.00.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-11-01-16.00.log.html | 16:48 |
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