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rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:04
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  5 14:04:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:04
smcginniso/14:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:04
abhishekko/14:04
McClymontSo/14:04
rosmaita#chair jokke_14:05
openstackCurrent chairs: jokke_ rosmaita14:05
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rosmaitahello everyone14:05
abhishekkhi14:06
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McClymontSHey rosmaita14:06
rosmaitakind of want jokke_ around for item #214:06
rosmaitaoope14:06
rosmaitameaning, oops14:06
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:06
rosmaitathere's the agenda14:06
rosmaitaok, let's skip to item #314:07
rosmaitathat's me14:07
rosmaita#topic OSSN update proposal14:07
*** openstack changes topic to "OSSN update proposal (Meeting topic: glance)"14:07
rosmaitai have a proposal for updating the OSSNs14:07
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rosmaitajust the ones releate to glance14:07
rosmaitawould be good to have someone (McClymontS maybe?) go though and update them14:08
McClymontSAbsolutely14:08
McClymontSI'd like to take that item14:08
rosmaitacheck which releases they are applicable to14:08
rosmaita(may need to add more recent releases)14:08
rosmaitaalso update the status14:08
rosmaita"update" in the sense of i don;t think there's a status field on them14:09
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rosmaitabut indicate whether they've been fixed, and if so what release14:09
rosmaitawhether they're under discussion, and if so, spec link14:09
rosmaitaor whether you are on your own as an operator in dealing with it14:09
rosmaitaanyway, i think that would be helpful14:10
rosmaitamight need to check with VMT about updating them14:10
rosmaitabut since they're on the wiki, they should be updatable in principle14:10
McClymontSYeah I will definitely reach out to those teams and go ahead and start looking into what we can update and where14:10
rosmaitaanyway, scott, you will have to talk to fungi probably about getting write access on the wiki14:10
rosmaita(i don't know if they restored it to regular people, there was a spam problem)14:11
rosmaitaok, well if McClymontS has accepted taking this on, that's all i've got14:11
fungiyeah, can you elaborate on specifically what it's not letting you do?14:11
McClymontSHave not even tried yet fungi, just got tasked with it. Will keep you posted if I run into any issues14:11
rosmaitaMcClymontS: you can communicate with fungi directly, i just assumed he won't have write access14:12
fungiwe've had the spam situation under control for a while now, thankfully14:12
rosmaitafungi: excellent news14:12
fungiyeah, reach out to me in #openstack-infra if you run into any issues using your wiki account14:12
fungihappy to help14:12
rosmaitathanks!14:12
rosmaitaok, i am item #4 as well14:12
rosmaita#topic lack of good error messages due to misconfiguration14:13
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abhishekkyou are everywhere in today's agenda :D14:13
rosmaitasomeone filed a  bug and did really nice job troubleshooting this14:13
rosmaita#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/176118514:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1761185 in Glance "Value errors when configuring 'enabled_import_methods' option" [Medium,Triaged]14:13
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rosmaitafound a fix already sitting there:14:14
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514114/114:14
rosmaitawhich was abandoned after scott asked for a test and i had a backward-compat concern14:14
smcginnisrosmaita: So the issue is ValueError would now have a different return_code?14:14
rosmaitayeah, and i don;t know if it matters14:15
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rosmaitawhen you look at the code, it's someone being a bit too clever with python14:15
rosmaita(hopefully it wasn't me!)14:15
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smcginnis:)14:15
abhishekk:)14:15
rosmaitaanyway, the fix is good, it will just  change the error  code you get b ack14:15
rosmaitai don't know if anyone is paying that  close attention14:16
McClymontSI liked that one just needed a test14:16
smcginnisWe could just change that to a list and return the index location (with padding to keep consistent) or make it a dict with explicit return codes.14:16
abhishekkI guess it will not be a concern14:16
rosmaitabut as a general note, when you introduce KNOWN_EXCEPTIONS into code, you need to have a plan for what to do with unknown exceptions14:16
rosmaita:)14:17
abhishekkbut dict is a good idea14:17
rosmaitayeah, jokke_ is very strong on not breaking backward compat14:17
smcginnisAnyway, seems like it would not be too difficult to keep it backward compat.14:17
smcginnisJust need some tweaks.14:17
rosmaitato address smcginnis i think maintaining a map of error codes is the way to do it14:17
rosmaitamaybe return 99 for unknown code14:17
abhishekk++14:17
smcginnisExplicit is better than implicit. ;)14:17
rosmaitaagreed14:18
abhishekkalways14:18
rosmaitaok, i will assign myself to this one14:18
rosmaitai just worked with a bunch of exit tests on glanceclient, hopefullly a similar test is easy here14:18
abhishekkI am sure you will add sufficient tests as well ;)14:18
rosmaitawill preserve backward compat with a map of exit codes14:19
rosmaitacool!14:19
rosmaitathis is a really bad bug becasue we rely heavily on the oslo_config stuff to validate the config file14:19
rosmaitaand no one can see the messages!14:19
rosmaitaok, thanks for the feedback14:19
rosmaitaok, let's go  back to #114:20
rosmaitaforum proposals14:20
rosmaita#topic updates -forum proposals14:20
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rosmaitamy fingers were not ready for so much typing today14:20
McClymontSlol14:20
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-glance-brainstorming14:20
McClymontSLove the airport code14:21
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rosmaitaeveryone was doing that, i just copied it14:21
rosmaitaok, please put some topics on there14:21
smcginnisWe did it last time in Vancouver too. I'm surprised we haven't mixed up old etherpads yet.14:21
rosmaitamy thought is that if people can't make the summit, we can use them for a virtual operator mid-cycle meeting14:22
smcginnisI know the official forum topic submission is now open. Not sure when that closes.14:22
smcginnisrosmaita: ++14:22
rosmaitawe did that in pre-summit days, and was usually attended pretty well14:22
rosmaitatopic submission closes 15 april14:22
rosmaitaat midnight14:22
McClymontSAre my updates reflecting correctly rosmaita?14:22
smcginnisrosmaita: Thanks!14:22
McClymontSis my name on there?14:22
smcginnisyep14:23
rosmaitawhich i do not know if it is 00:00 on 15 april or 23:59 on 15 april14:23
McClymontSPerfect, I'll add some comments on those two OSSNs14:23
smcginnisProbably safer to go with the earlier one.14:23
rosmaitasmcginnis agreed14:23
rosmaitaanyway, just some awareness ... if you have something you would like operator feedback on, or if your company is giving you operator feedback on something, please add it to the pad14:24
rosmaitaalso McClymontS as you said, if you come across old OSSNs that you would like to find out operator impact, or how they are handling them, please add14:24
McClymontSWill do, I've been doing some research on that already so I'll toss that on there14:25
rosmaitakey point is we can use this as an area for both Forum proposals and running our own virtual operator midcycle14:25
rosmaitagreat14:25
rosmaita#topic release update14:25
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rosmaitagot 2 releases we'd like to do, the image immport stuff for glanceclient14:26
rosmaitaand some bugfixes to stable/queens14:26
rosmaitaglanceclient14:26
rosmaitafirst14:26
rosmaita#link https://launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+milestone/2.10.014:26
rosmaitawould be good to get the inprogess stuff done by tomorrow so we cna have a patch ready for stable maint team for their monday meetinbg14:27
rosmaitathat means jokke_ and smcginnis since i am author of these14:27
smcginnisI'll take a look!14:28
rosmaitasmcginnis thanks!14:28
rosmaitaopen question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758718 ... that one doesn't have a patch proposed for stable/queens yet14:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758718 in Glance Client queens "image-import needs to fail faster" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Rosmaita (brian-rosmaita)14:28
rosmaitahas not been merged to master14:28
rosmaitai don't know if there's an issue about it or not14:29
abhishekkDoes it need a rebase or good to go?14:29
rosmaitajokke_ has a patch up that abhishekk mentions in the comments to handle some of this on glance side14:29
rosmaitabut i think we need these changes anyway14:29
rosmaitaabhishekk i think it is ok, but i will check14:29
smcginnisrosmaita: I agree. Even if we improve it on the server side, the client could still be used to talk to a service that does not have that change.14:30
rosmaitai don't see the orange dot on the review14:30
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/556292/14:30
rosmaitai have been keeping it rebased on the other patch that just merged into master14:30
abhishekkgreat then,14:31
rosmaitai think i addressed all erno's concerns, but would be good for him to review14:32
rosmaitajokke_ ^^14:32
rosmaitaok, onto glance bugfixes for stable/queens14:32
abhishekkok then jokke and smcginnis can have a look again on those14:32
rosmaita#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/queens-stable-114:32
rosmaitai marked #1754104 as critical even though it's docs because there are a lot of duplicates being filed on thatone14:33
smcginnisabhishekk: We could use your eyes on the patch to master: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556292/14:33
smcginnisThat would need to get merged first before we can do anything in queens.14:34
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abhishekksmcginnis, I have verified that jokke_'s concern has been addressed and checked functionally as well14:34
smcginnisGreat!14:35
rosmaitasmcginnis and abhishekk : here's the doc patch to master: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558932/14:35
rosmaitawould like to backport that to queens becasue of that bug i mentioned above14:35
abhishekkrosmaita, I have verified that patch and looks good to me14:36
smcginnisYep, looks good.14:36
rosmaitacool, i will cherry pick to stable/queens after it merges14:36
rosmaitaabhishekk i will +2 your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559073/ as soon as it passes tests14:37
abhishekkrosmaita, sounds good14:37
rosmaitaok, my question was is there anything else anyone is aware of that should go into queens-stable-1 release?14:37
abhishekkbetween as I said new functional test patch is also working now14:38
rosmaitaabhishekk : nice14:38
rosmaitado you think we should get those tests into stable queens?14:38
abhishekkrosmaita, i guess it will be good to have if it fits to stable policies14:39
rosmaitasmcginnis: ^^14:39
abhishekksmcginnis, we are talking about this #link https://review.openstack.org/55818714:40
rosmaitaabhishekk: i was thinking the same thing, might be good to have as protection against something changing in some library or something14:40
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abhishekkagree14:40
McClymontSAlso agreed14:40
abhishekkwe can move ahead, limited time for next items14:41
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smcginnisYeah, good to backport tests.14:41
rosmaitasure, abhishek why don'14:41
rosmaitat you file a bug for missing functional tests14:41
abhishekki will check other patches if they needs to be backport14:41
rosmaitaand then we can target it for rocky-1 and stable-queens-114:42
abhishekkrosmaita, sure thing14:42
abhishekkI will do that later tonight14:42
rosmaitaand then jokke_ can un-target it if he disagrees14:42
rosmaitaok, great14:42
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abhishekk(once reach to home)14:42
rosmaitadon't forget to update the closes-bug tag on your patch14:42
abhishekksure thing14:42
rosmaitaty14:42
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:43
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rosmaitajust noted the patch that fixed the doc job failures14:43
rosmaitait was an order of loading libraries thing14:43
rosmaitaok, still need approval on my split the glanceclient functional tests patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553641/14:44
abhishekki was banging my head to find the reason14:44
rosmaitawe need it merged before we can pull v1 out of glance14:44
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rosmaitaabhishekk eventlet and monkey-patching have a lot to answer for!14:44
abhishekkagree14:45
rosmaitaok, i may put up a patch to remove our non-voting functional-identity-v3 gate job14:45
rosmaitaour "regualr" job is actually using identity-v314:45
rosmaita(default value changed in devstack)14:45
abhishekkmakes sense then14:46
rosmaitayeah, i don'tlknow why i put it on the agenda14:46
rosmaitaok one last thing and then i will shut up14:46
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/468179/14:46
rosmaitathat's my "fix 00sn-0075" spec ... i just want to see from our team if the proposal is ok14:47
rosmaitabefore i send out to the operators list again14:47
abhishekkwill take a look14:47
rosmaitathey are probably sick of hearing about it as well!14:47
rosmaitaabhishekk thanks14:47
rosmaitasmcginnis could probably use your opinion too14:47
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rosmaitaeach of the prior proposals has basically become an alternative on the spec14:48
rosmaitathat's all from me ... anyone else got anything?14:48
abhishekkI have a review request for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529083/14:48
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abhishekkrosmaita, smcginnis, McClymontS ^^^ when you get some spare time14:49
rosmaitawill do14:49
abhishekkthank you14:49
McClymontSAck, will go take a look soon14:49
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abhishekkthank you14:49
rosmaitayeah, it would be good to get that fixed soon, and that patch has been sitting for quite a while14:51
abhishekkMay be next week we can revisit rocky-1 priorities to keep track?14:51
rosmaitawe have 8 moinutes, maybe we should do it now14:51
rosmaitarocky-1 is week of 16 april14:52
abhishekkok14:52
rosmaitaso next thursday will be  a bit late!14:52
rosmaita#topic rocky-1 priority review14:52
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abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rocky-priorities14:52
rosmaitaty14:52
rosmaitai got nothin' for tempest import tests14:53
abhishekkMay be we can shift tempest tests to rocky-2?14:53
rosmaitaprobably14:54
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smcginnisThose might be tricky.14:54
rosmaitai would like to review the multihash stuff for glance_store14:54
McClymontSMultihash will definitely need another sitdown14:55
rosmaitai may have some partial discovery stuff, need to review bhagyashri's member-schema change first though14:55
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rosmaitaMcClymontS do you have a patch up for glance_Store14:56
McClymontSIts dated at this point14:56
McClymontSwe can look at it together14:56
abhishekkok, so we still have 10 working days in hand (what we can do in it)14:56
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rosmaitathat's ok, let me make it a point to to read it tomorrow and let's meet monday to discuss, if that works for you14:56
McClymontSyeah we can talk about it then14:56
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rosmaitacool14:56
smcginnisHas anyone put up a WIP for the API v1 removal to see if tests pass?14:57
rosmaitai don't feel too bad about the tempest tests since we are getting in some functional and unit tests for image import14:57
abhishekkshuffle of items, i guess scrubber pending delete restore is ready so we can target it to r-1?14:57
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rosmaitaabhishekk : good point, i have lost track of those patches14:57
abhishekkmay be in r-2 i will have a look on tempests tests14:58
smcginnis1 minute warning14:59
abhishekklets revisit it again in next week14:59
abhishekkthank you all :)14:59
rosmaitaok, well jokke_ can send out info on priorities email14:59
rosmaitathanks everyone14:59
McClymontSThanks guys14:59
smcginnisThanks!14:59
rosmaita#dndmeeting14:59
rosmaita#endmeeting15:00
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