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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 6 08:00:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 08:01 |
| eyalb | Hi | 08:01 |
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| nivo | Hi | 08:02 |
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| nivo | I am currently working on adding tempest tests to test the new AODH alarm types | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Agenda: | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks :-) | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | You already pushed the aodh code itself, right? | 08:04 |
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| nivo | Yes i pushed the code | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Cool, thanks | 08:05 |
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| nivo | :-) | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | Back to the agenda: | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | •Vancouver recap | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and updates | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | •Open discussion | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Vancouver recap | 08:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver recap (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:06 | |
| ifat_afek | I think we had a great success with Vitrage sessions in Vancouver | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | . In two sessions we had over 80 attendees. More than 30 came to our lab, and the forum sessions were also very productive. I’ll send a detailed recap later this week. | 08:06 |
| ifat_afek | A list of all sessions related to Vitrage: | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=vitrage | 08:07 |
| e0ne | I missed the lab:( | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Unfortunately it wasn’t recorded :-( | 08:07 |
| eyalb | Unfortunately it is not recorded | 08:07 |
| eyalb | I can try and send you the material | 08:08 |
| e0ne | eyalb: it would be awesome | 08:08 |
| eyalb | You will need to install a devstack with some predefined services running | 08:08 |
| e0ne | I'm newbie to Vitrage, but I'm interesting in this project | 08:09 |
| eyalb | Cool | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | You are very welcome to join | 08:09 |
| eyalb | I will ask Muhammad to send you the slides | 08:09 |
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| ifat_afek | Moving on - here are the links to our forum etherpads: | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-vitrage-rca-over-k8s | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-vitrage-advanced-use-cases | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | I was asked to give feedback on the project onboarding session. The questions are: | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | •About how many attended? | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | •Slides? (If you have them/want to share them) | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | •What went well? | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | •What will you do differently next time? | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | •Anything else? Other feedback? | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | If you have any feedback you think I should mention, let me know | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | And BTW, Berlin CFP is already open! | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other comment/feedback related to Vancouver? | 08:12 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:13 | |
| ifat_afek | We need to mark a first release of python-vitrageclient this week | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | I understand that it is quite stable, so I plan to release it together with vitrage and vitrage-dashboard later today. Let me know if you think there is a problem with this release. | 08:13 |
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| ifat_afek | Another issue – Yuval Adar reported a bug that when using a remote client that has a different time zone, the Zabbix alarm time does not match the time that is shown in Vitrage. | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Apparently Zabbix shows the server time while Vitrage shows the client time. I understand that Nova and Heat act the same as Zabbix. I’m currently not sure what is the best solution | 08:15 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: fyi, it's not required to release client this week. it's required to do it in rocky-3 | 08:16 |
| eyalb | The problem is that the dashboard uses the browser timezone and not the server timezone | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | eOne: I understood from the last “release countdown” mail that we should release twice during Rocky. So I think now makes sense. In the previous release we released very late (because we had several api changes “almost working”) | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: My question is: is it really a problem? because I would expect it to be the wanted behavior (to use the client time zone), but apparently it is not the common one | 08:18 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: makes sense. I missed it | 08:19 |
| eyalb | The problem is that time zone is not displayed in horizon so when a person sees a time stamp he dies | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | eOne: Actually, after reading it again, I’m not so sure… but I think that in any case we are in a good position to make a first release now | 08:20 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: +1 | 08:20 |
| eyalb | He does not know if it is a local time | 08:21 |
| eyalb | or server time | 08:21 |
| eyalb | Nova mistral and heat don't display time zone near the timestamp | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | I just wonder if the behavior we’ve seen in Nova, Heat and Mistral was on purpose or just without thinking about it too much | 08:22 |
| e0ne | usually, dashboard shows time values in client time zone | 08:23 |
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| ifat_afek | But apparently this is not the case in OpenStack… | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | And also not in Zabbix | 08:24 |
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| ifat_afek | Another issue for Vitrage is that in the alarms view we might show alarms coming from different monitors, and if we don’t use the client time zone we could have it all mixed up | 08:24 |
| e0ne | do we have timezone info from zsbbix? | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | I believe so | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | The bug that was reported is that the end user saw the client time in Vitrage and the server time in Zabbix UI, so it was confusing | 08:26 |
| e0ne | oh.. I see | 08:27 |
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| e0ne | in horizon, user can set timezone manually if he or she wants to view time data in other timezon | 08:29 |
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| ifat_afek | Where is it done? | 08:30 |
| e0ne | user settings page | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | So the assumption is that the user should see the same timezone everywhere? | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | And we should convert to the time zone that is defined in the user settings? | 08:30 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: we can only do it for horizon, not zabbix ui | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | Of course not for Zabbix | 08:31 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: +1 for converting data to user time zone | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | But we are trying to figure out what the Horizon convention is | 08:31 |
| ifat_afek | And if the user has an option to set the Horizon timezone to match the server timezone, then I guess we’re good | 08:31 |
| e0ne | +1 | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek | najjar: Hi, eOne asked about our lab earlier | 08:34 |
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| ifat_afek | I see that he was disconnected… | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates or issues? | 08:35 |
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| najjar | Hi e0ne, I understand that you want to do the hands-on lab | 08:36 |
| e0ne | najjar: hi yes. it could help he to understand vitrage better | 08:37 |
| najjar | I can send you the requirements by email, so could you give me your email ? | 08:38 |
| e0ne | najjar: sure, I'll send you it in dm | 08:38 |
| najjar | what is dm ? | 08:39 |
| e0ne | direct message :) | 08:39 |
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| ifat_afek | Thanks. Any other updates by anyone? | 08:40 |
| najjar | so my update is that i'm back to work on Prometheus datasource | 08:41 |
| e0ne | najjar: it would be awesome to get it in Rocky | 08:41 |
| najjar | I believe it will be ready till then :D | 08:42 |
| najjar | (y) | 08:42 |
| e0ne | :) | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Cool | 08:43 |
| ifat_afek | Anything else? | 08:43 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Open discussion | 08:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:44 | |
| e0ne | I've got one topic to discuss | 08:44 |
| ifat_afek | Sure | 08:44 |
| e0ne | we're thinking about adding vitrage to one of the our next distro | 08:45 |
| e0ne | but it's required to have project upgrades procedure | 08:45 |
| e0ne | I'm going to implement database schema migrations if the team is OK with it | 08:45 |
| e0ne | we've got at least one DB change in Rocky, so vitrage couldn't be easy upgraded from Queens to Rocky :( | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | What DB change is that? | 08:46 |
| e0ne | also, cold upgrades could be a community goal for S | 08:46 |
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| ifat_afek | We actually didn’t expect a problem | 08:46 |
| ifat_afek | We only introduced a DB in Queens, so we are not so familiar with these issues | 08:47 |
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| e0ne_ | sorry, I'd got an issue with internet connection | 08:50 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, I just said that we didn’t expect a problem with DB changes, but we are less familiar with these issues. What problems do you expect to have? | 08:51 |
| e0ne_ | here is a new db change in Rocky https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/ | 08:51 |
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| e0ne_ | ifat_afek: we changed column type. how data will be migrated from Queens to Rocky? | 08:51 |
| ifat_afek | I believe you sent the wrong link? | 08:52 |
| e0ne_ | oops | 08:52 |
| e0ne_ | here is it https://github.com/openstack/vitrage/commit/8f8c8eec1d19e0b4f39c9f6ac60d9fc3b6460ba1#diff-733bcd8aa10c5aaeaf9195f196978f6b | 08:52 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, I see now. Two things: | 08:53 |
| ifat_afek | 1. The snapshot code was written in Queens but was not completed, so we don’t expect anyone to use it. I’m almost sure that this code was completely disabled in Queens. We only used it internally for testing | 08:53 |
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| ifat_afek | 2. We have vitrage-dbsync command that fixes the db schema | 08:54 |
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| e0ne_ | ifat_afek: ok, I'll check it and let you know | 08:54 |
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| ifat_afek | Do you think it is good enough? it is only a matter of re-defining the table, but there shouldn’t be any data loss because there shouldn’t be any data | 08:54 |
| e0ne_ | I need to check it | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | I’ll be happy to know if you expect problems, and thanks for notifying us about this issue… | 08:55 |
| e0ne_ | btw, I'm ready to volunteer to implement these requirements https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_supports-upgrade.html#requirements for vitrage | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | We’ll be more than happy if you do :-) | 08:55 |
| e0ne_ | :) | 08:55 |
| ifat_afek | Any other issue? | 08:56 |
| e0ne_ | ok. I'll try queens-rocky upgrade and let you know what is my result | 08:56 |
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| e0ne_ | also, I'll file a blueprint for this if any activity is needed | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | Great, thanks | 08:57 |
| ifat_afek | We are almost out of time… so see you next week :-) | 08:58 |
| najjar | thanks bye | 08:58 |
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| e0ne_ | see you next week! | 08:58 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 6 08:59:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-06-06-08.00.html | 08:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-06-06-08.00.txt | 08:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-06-06-08.00.log.html | 08:59 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 6 16:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic rollcall | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:00 |
| chason | o/ | 16:00 |
| ktibi | o/ | 16:00 |
| donghm | o/ | 16:00 |
| bmace | o/ | 16:00 |
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| sadasu | Hello! | 16:01 |
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| spsurya | o/ | 16:01 |
| jmccarthy | o/ | 16:01 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
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| yankcrime | o/ | 16:02 |
| niedbalski | o/ | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | this week is rocky-2 milestone deadline. | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | we will going create rocky-rc2 tags for kolla. | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | currently the gate is green, so i think it is ready to do. | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | i will create the tags tomorrow if there is other issues. | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | any other announcements from community? | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | guess no, let us move on | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | since there is no agenda on meeting wiki page. | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic open discussion | 16:04 |
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| pbourke | o/ | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | let us move to open discussion directly. | 16:04 |
| Jeffrey4l | pbourke, thanks for update the onboarding feedbacks. | 16:05 |
| pbourke | np | 16:05 |
| pbourke | I think it went fairly well | 16:05 |
| pbourke | Jeffrey4l: wrt to rocky-rc2 | 16:05 |
| spsurya | yes it good feedback session | 16:05 |
| pbourke | at what point do we feature freeze? | 16:06 |
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| Jeffrey4l | pbourke, no. rc3 is a feature freeze. | 16:06 |
| pbourke | Jeffrey4l: ok. we should do our best to get the bluestore functionality in before then | 16:06 |
| pbourke | it seems almost ready | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | and since there is no trailing-cycle tag for deploy project, technially, there is no feature freeze at all now. | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey4l | yeah. tong did a great job. | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | anyway, we still have another one month to merge bp. | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | one thing i wanna to talk is the meeting time. | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | currently the meeting time is UTC 16:00, it is US friendly. | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | but kolla do not have much US guys as before. | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | so is this time suitable with you? or do you wanna to adjust it? | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | any comments on this? | 16:09 |
| spsurya | Jeffrey4l: yes please make it Asia and Europe friendly | 16:09 |
| spsurya | +1 from my side | 16:10 |
| pbourke | it's reasonably friendly for Europe right now, at least in Ireland | 16:10 |
| ktibi | Jeffrey4l, for Europe, UTC 16 is good, maybe UTC 15 | 16:10 |
| bmace | depending on when it is moved to i may not be able to attend anymore, but i appreciate the reason for it. | 16:10 |
| pbourke | ktibi: +1 | 16:10 |
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| pbourke | actually I meant to +1 bmace :) | 16:10 |
| pbourke | but also ktibi | 16:11 |
| chason | Let's have a vote for meeting time. | 16:11 |
| pbourke | Jeffrey4l: if we want to vote on a new time that would be fine | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | yeah, if guys wanna to change the meeting time, we will have a voting | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | does UTC 16 work with you pbourke bmace ? | 16:12 |
| spsurya | may be 1 or 2 hrs before would be fine | 16:12 |
| Jeffrey4l | utc 15 i mean. | 16:12 |
| pbourke | that would be ok with me, probably too early for bmace | 16:12 |
| bmace | so just 1 hour earlier? i might be able to survive.. right now it is at 9am for me, so it would be 8am, which, though painful, is still possible :) | 16:13 |
| bmace | 7am is right out.. lol | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | bmace, great. | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | i will choose a several time span for voting. | 16:13 |
| mgiles | bmace keep in mind that will be 7am in the winter hours, I think | 16:13 |
| ktibi | for the Spanish guys it's siesta time ! | 16:13 |
| bmace | mgiles: i will just have to hibernate through winter i guess ;) | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey4l | i will sent the updates into ML | 16:14 |
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| Jeffrey4l | then next open discussion. | 16:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l | any volunteers? | 16:15 |
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| donghm | About bp, i implemented the blueprint ansible-specific-task-become, hope that somebody can review it | 16:15 |
| spsurya | Jeffrey4l: yes | 16:15 |
| donghm | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571090/ | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | donghm, cool. | 16:16 |
| ktibi | donghm, good job ! very good for security | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | added myself, will review tomorrow. | 16:16 |
| donghm | Jeffrey4l, thank you | 16:17 |
| spsurya | Berlin CFP is open, I personally feel kolla team should have a workshop | 16:17 |
| duonghq | spsurya, +1 as usual | 16:17 |
| spsurya | it will attract more operators and contributor | 16:17 |
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| pbourke | I would like to see a bigger kolla presence than we had in vancouver | 16:17 |
| spsurya | as we had god amount of attendee in Vancouver | 16:18 |
| donghm | ktibi, thank you too | 16:18 |
| ktibi | I'll go to berlin with 3 or 4 op team. | 16:18 |
| spsurya | pbourke: i think no. of good w.r.t other community | 16:19 |
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| spsurya | in vacouver | 16:20 |
| spsurya | Jeffrey4l: pbourke duonghq ^^ | 16:22 |
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| pbourke | spsurya: I don't understand? | 16:22 |
| spsurya | pbourke: sorry, typo | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | is the workshop equal onboarding + ops feedback? | 16:22 |
| spsurya | I mean we had good amount of attendee in kolla session w.r.t to other community | 16:23 |
| spsurya | pbourke: | 16:23 |
| pbourke | spsurya: oh yes, absolutely | 16:23 |
| spsurya | Jeffrey4l: no | 16:23 |
| pbourke | just would be nice to see some more talks, demos, workshops etc. | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | and some good sign is i see some new contributor for kolla recently. | 16:24 |
| spsurya | Jeffrey4l: workshop can be about handson exp of kolla, kolla-ansible and kolla-cli | 16:24 |
| spsurya | it can include deployment of some new features | 16:25 |
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| spsurya | like we have rolling upgrade for core services | 16:25 |
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| Jeffrey4l | got | 16:25 |
| spsurya | and some other crucial deployments in which operators face issue | 16:26 |
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| Jeffrey4l | and it will be great if some guys could share there experince on a large scale openstack deployed with kolla. | 16:27 |
| spsurya | Jeffrey4l: yes, we need volunteers for that | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | the deadline for CFP is end of june. | 16:28 |
| spsurya | yes 30th June, so we can create workshop before that and can propose the same | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | so please apply the topics before that ;) | 16:29 |
| spsurya | workshop agenda* <- typo | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | rolling upgrade is a good point | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok, this is about the comming summit. | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | any other topics? | 16:31 |
| bmace | It was suggested that, not that we have the cli working fairly well with the upstream bits, that we start to look at possibly depricating use of kolla-ansible, at least in the gate, and start using things like the cli properties commands instead of hand edits to the property files, etc. if there are no objections. | 16:31 |
| Jeffrey4l | bmace, +1 | 16:32 |
| bmace | in the next couple of days i hope to have a script finished / committed so that there are no manual steps to getting the cli running w/ kolla-ansible, just run a script and it is all set up. | 16:32 |
| bmace | i think that is it on the cli front. also, folks feel free to create blueprints for stuff you would like to see in the cli. we have had a number of new folks reviewing and commenting on the changes we are putting in, and that is very appreciated. | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | this will make kolla-cli and kolla-ansible work together very well. | 16:33 |
| bmace | yup, and the more people use it i am hoping the more ideas people will have on improving the cli and making the whole kolla experience better / easier. | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | definitely :D | 16:34 |
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| spsurya | bmace: +1 | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | btw, this patch is ready for review, https://review.openstack.org/568422 it will be good for operators :) | 16:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l | seem we could end the meeting ealier today. | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks every for comming | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 6 16:39:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-06-06-16.00.html | 16:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-06-06-16.00.txt | 16:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-06-06-16.00.log.html | 16:39 |
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