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| jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: flwang1, jokke_, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, rosmaita, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, dshakhray, kairat, alex_bash, smcginnis, arcolife, Brin, Roamer` | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 7 14:00:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | ok, looks like that's everyone | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | I don't have any actual updates apart from the specs which for I put it's own topic | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | #topic release updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | hi | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | erno's change removing the import enable opt is in the gate now | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i have the config regen patch up, built on master, doesn't depend on erno's change but includes it | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573238/ | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | last i looked erno's patch has an hour more in the gate | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | so we need reviews on the config regen: jokke_ smcginnis abhishekk ^^ | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | acked | 14:04 |
| smcginnis | Will do. | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | and i will put up rocky-2 milestone for glance once that merges | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | Erno is removing one config option right? | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | ok, for glance_store, one patch still needs to be approved: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534745/ | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | k | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk yes | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: correct it removes config option and obviously the related tags from couple | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | the config regen also includes a fix i made to oslo.config for the display of list options | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: so about that store change ... sorry I did not notice it earlier | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | got it | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | it's logging error condition as info | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | arrrgh | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | I left comment in there ... otherwise it looks good | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | is warn ok for that? | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | warn is fine by me | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ok, that bypasses the translation issue | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | and that means that we don't need to fiddle around with the translation either | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | great | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | indeed | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ok, i wlll get that fixed while we speak | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | if you spin it around I'll keep eye on it | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | great | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will put up a release patch as soon as taht change merges | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i take it no release notes are necessary? no major changes to glance_store | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | I'll double check I don't think there was anything | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | that's it for rocky-2, then | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | periodic tips jobs update | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572572/ | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | that's the update to the glance docs about the release CPL watching the tips jobs | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | and in that spirit, glance_store is all green | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | but both glance and glanceclient are showing the keystone job failing for py35 | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | ok, any idea why? | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i haven't had time to look into it | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | also, the keystone job isn't just keystone, it's keystone-related libraries | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | iirc glance was green yesterday | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | yes, both were | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | ok cool, anything else? | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | sorry, was just looking again ... for glance, the failure is in the functional-py35 tests, not py35 unit tests | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | glanceclient is py35 unit tests | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | k | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i personally will not have time to look into it | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | i will try to have a look tomorrow my time | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | oh yeah, one more thing ... we have a bug squash scheduled for tomorrow | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | are we still doing that? | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | I think we should | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i can only be there for my morning | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i was thinking a good use of time would be to go through reviews instead of bugs | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | there are a bunch of old reviews hanging around that we should figure out what to do with | 14:16 |
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| abhishekk | +1 | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | guess it depends on who shows up | 14:17 |
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| rosmaita | i will put together a quick list of easy bugs in case any non-cores show up | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | so say, myself and abhishekk take a look on the bugs at the morn and we'll see if there is bug scrubbing to do when you wake up :P | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | ok, that is even better | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | I can try to be around tomorrow for it too. | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | excellent | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ok, that;'s all for releases | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | #topic eventlet situation | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | ok, that's me | 14:18 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571797/ | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | i put up a patch that uses eventlet 0.22.1 | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | that's the next version the u-c will be raised to | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | and something is failing, i have not had time to look | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | k | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | maybe i should file a bug and someone can look tomorrow? | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | I'll have a look into that | 14:19 |
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| rosmaita | ok, cool, you can file a bug if you want to track it | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | A bug would probably be good for tracking purposes at least. | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | lets see what it's about first and I'll see what to do about it | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | works for me | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | ok, that's it on that topic | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | #topic spec freeze | 14:21 |
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| jokke_ | so today is the deadline | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | so the first one I want to put on the table is the hidden images spec | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: could you please take a look of my comment about your concern and we make the call if we keep that in Rocky or not | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | looking now | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | ok, i am cool with that | 14:23 |
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| jokke_ | gr8, if you put note of that into the review and I'll get it merged | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | then we have the policy refactoring one | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | what do we do about that? | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | that one needs work | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | wxy had some good comments | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | we have the feature branch available, so should we just push that spec to S and we can start working on the feature branch when ever having time for it? | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i dont' think we have anyone ready to work on it? | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | now, i mean | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | it doesn't seem like so | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, I want to but might be later | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's push to S ... would be good to get some comments on my discussion with wxy | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | see if that's the right direction to go | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | if so, i will work out more details | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: agreed, lets keep that under discussion | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | sounds good, If i get time I will push my patches against feature branch | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | then there is abhishekk's multistore | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | Fingers crossed | 14:27 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:27 |
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| jokke_ | now that needs at least review on the last revision, can we agree that as principle we are in favor to do that or do we drop it from this cycle? | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | abhishekk: You have the code pretty much ready to go, right? | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i think maybe spec freeze exception? | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | I'd like to see that work happening even we are still not convinced that the implementation details in the spec are where we want to be | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | I have uploaded glance and glance_store patches and abandoned it for reference purpose | 14:28 |
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| abhishekk | I have tested it with file, ceph and swift | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | nice! | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | ok, keep an eye on that, I'll fiddle around with it today after the meeting, might be pinging rosmaita and smcginnis to have a look on my approach :P | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | then we have the OSSN | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: would you please look through it before you call it a night and give your vote there | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, I will | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | I think the current proposal is something we can agree on and will get us to bit better place | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: it changed a lot, i suggest just reading through the final patch | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | ignore all the other stuff | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | exactly | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, ok | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | that's why I asked ;) | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | then I added spec lite for the cluster awareness we talked about before/during the summit | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572654 | 14:33 |
| smcginnis | And I think it has been very well communicated between the ML and the project update at the summit. | 14:33 |
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| smcginnis | jokke_: This might be too "lite" for me to grasp what's actually being proposed. | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | and I think that would be all we are/can include this time around. The web-location looks like something we won't be getting into agreement anytime soon | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | actually, there is one more, has all +2s except from me | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561111/ | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: it has acks from all cores so I did not need to chase it ;) | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | cool, just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: nope ;) | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ i agree with smcginnis that your lite spec is pretty lite | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | how much do you envision getting done? | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | yes so, the point is, there is no anticipated changes to API as of result to this atm | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | there is plenty of things that we might be able to benefit from if we decide to do it | 14:38 |
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| jokke_ | for example starting from image import not necessarily needing that shared filesystem with all it's quirkyness | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | i agree | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | so that would be the first thing I'd like to experiment with how much work it is to start communicating between the nodes | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | as in serializing the import call in glance-direct use case and see if we could get the node that actually has the data to process it without the request initially landing to that node | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | so this is sort of a speculative spec saying that it's worth taking rocky time to work on this | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | even though there's no guarantee something will land in rocky | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | yes, if it is not horrible to implement, then we have baseline how to work on it and we can start expanding it to stuff like precaching images | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | i personally think it is a good idea | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | agree | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | the spec lite is kind of there to get basic agreement that it would be worth for me to start looking into it | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | OK, I just had no idea what was actually being proposed from the spec other than that the api service and a message bus were involved. :) | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | I don't want to dig into the message queues and o the work just to hear that someone from our core team thinks it's absolutely horrific idea and will -2 it ;) | 14:43 |
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| jokke_ | smcginnis: yeah so like the spec is pretty vague, so is the plan for now apart from looking into getting the nodes communicating with eachother via message queues | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: OK, good enough for now I suppose. | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | cool ... I got lots of encouraging feedback of the idea from the summit | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | so if any of you think that specific implementations needs their own specs, I'm fine with that or amend the one that is proposed now with those details | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | ok, that's all about specs now | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:47 |
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| abhishekk | I guess basic idea is clear with this lite-specs | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | there was couple of things listed under open discussion for today | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | those are both me | 14:48 |
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| rosmaita | just some stuff on the ML relevant to glance | 14:48 |
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| rosmaita | first one, looks like nova may keep the image-download extension | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | but glance is called "glacially slow" somewhere in the thread | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | the second one erno should probably look at | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | some confusions about image locations, i think | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | yeah, I've been keeping eye on that image download discussion | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | that's all, links on the agenda if you are ineterested | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | I think I have missed the locations discussion | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | so will have a look | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i could be wrong, i read through really quickly | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | one problem with that edge discussion is that it's split between the edge-computing list and the openstack-dev list | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | I'm subscribed to the edge list now as well so I will keep an eye what's going on there and will start bringing stuff up when I see something going on | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | update: erno's removal of the enable_import opt has merged | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | this week has been just other things on my plate | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | the config regen is showing 1 hour more in the check gate | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | btw I also got the image conversion plugin up for review finally | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | would greatly appreciate feedback :D | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | and the glance_store change is showing 1 more hour, it passed all our tests, now it's the tempest stuff | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | nice | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | should be fine then | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | yeah, will just need +A | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | I will test conversion patch tomorrow | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572515 | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: ty | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i have not had time to look at it | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | is it good to have release note for this? | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | yeah, and documentation as well if the approach is ok | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | Yeah | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | Should I send spec freeze exception mail for multi-store? | 14:56 |
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| jokke_ | smcginnis: thanks, missed that you had commented on the rev1 | 14:57 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: don't yet | 14:57 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, ok | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | ok, i think that's all for today | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | thanks all! | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | i forgot to mention that i'm on vacation next week | 14:58 |
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| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ok, enjoy! | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, happy holidays | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | i will cancel the bug squad meeting on monday | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 7 14:58:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-06-07-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-06-07-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-06-07-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
| smcginnis | Thanks all! | 14:58 |
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