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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  5 15:00:47 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
vbellurbswartz: hello15:01
bswartzgood morning everyone15:01
lpabonhi15:01
vikilandhi15:01
vbelokonhi15:01
vponomaryovhi15:01
shamailgood morning15:01
yportnova_hi15:01
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bswartzwow lots of people here today15:01
bswartzsorry if I'm disorganized, I'm travelling today15:02
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bswartz#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaMeetings15:02
bswartzfor those of you who weren't here last week, we have engineers working on the code finally15:03
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bswartzvbelokon has volunteed to give us an update on development progress15:03
bswartz#topic development progress15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "development progress (Meeting topic: manila)"15:03
vbelokonbswartz: ok, let me present short report15:03
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vbelokonDevStack - Supporting Manila in DevStack was implemented. It's in testing now. Link to Git: [https://github.com/119Vik/devstack] (master branch)15:04
vbelokonbswartz: Could you please provide repository to push Manila-DevStack code (requirements - target repo + allowed access)?15:05
bswartz#link https://github.com/119Vik/devstack15:05
bswartzvbelokon: sure15:05
vbelokonok next15:05
vbelokonAttributes "Cinder" was renamed to "Manila" in many places in the Manila project. And we are working on unit-tests of Manila now.15:05
vbelokonFirst "smoke testing" of Manila service was performed. Bugs and issues were found. QA are in-progress. Tempest. Preparing of positive and negative tests are in-progress. Functionality for Tempest (Manila Manager) is ready.15:06
vbelokonSeveral questions from QA team:15:06
vbelokon1) We have some stuff from Cinder as quotas for users and etc. Do we need to keep it in Manila or should we remove?15:06
bswartzvbelokon: we want to keep quota support15:07
vbelokon2) Current tempest in repo http://github.com/bswartz/tempest in branch "manila" is grizzly tempest. Our tempest is based on latest havana tempest, so, should we completely replace it or make branch like "manila/havana"?15:07
bswartzit wouldn't surprise me if there are bugs in the quota code however15:07
vbelokonbswartz: ok, thanks, we will keep quota15:07
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vponomaryovas for tempest - it is in fast change period, so was not commited yet to repo15:08
vponomaryovaddition to question 2)15:09
* KenD should probably make a new repo 'manila/icehouse15:09
bswartzvbelokon: will it be hard to merge the manila/temptest changes with recent havana changes?15:09
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lpabonif we copy code from Cinder, does that mean Manila will start diverging?  Will someone keep the common code up to date?  Is there a plan to have a common base?15:09
vbelokonlet's ask vponomaryov15:10
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vbelokonabput tempest15:10
bswartzKenD: I'd rather wait until we've got the code in stackforge before worrying about icehouse15:10
vponomaryovno, it is not hard to merge, but it is really different, it has modified structure15:10
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bswartzlpabon: that's a concern, yes. Ideally we will move common stuff into oslo, but that's not on the critical path for us15:10
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lpabonbswartz: cool15:11
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KenDmsg/ <kend> bswartz: good with that15:11
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vbelokonbswartz: about tempest - I think it's better to merge with Havana15:12
eskerhello15:12
vikilandрш15:12
vikilandhi15:12
bswartzvbelokon: you mentioned finding some bugs already15:12
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bswartzcan we file them in LP?15:12
vikilandyeah it's related to rename process15:12
vbelokonyes we can, but it's better to publish them in LP a bit latter15:13
vbelokonnow a lot of minor issues15:13
vbelokonlater when we have a stable project all bugs we will publish in LP15:13
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bswartzvbelokon: now that you've been working on the code for a bit, how soon do you expect we can complete the first 2 BPs?15:14
vbelokonso during next week we are planning:15:14
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vbelokonbswartz: in one weel15:14
vbelokonbswartz: in one week15:14
vbelokonour plan is:15:14
vbelokon- NFS/CIFS servers configuration and supporting15:15
vbelokon- rename / refactoring / cleanup / bug fix of manila-clinet15:15
vbelokon- tempest tests15:15
vbelokon- bug fixing of manila15:15
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bswartzthat sounds great15:15
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bswartzI think we need to get the code into stackforge before we can start pushing our tempest and devstack changes upstream15:15
bswartzany problem keeping those changes in github for a wihle?15:15
vbelokonso, that's is my short report from our side :)15:16
vikilandтщ15:16
vikilandno15:16
bswartzokay15:16
bswartz#action make a shared devstack repo available15:16
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bswartz#topic open floor15:17
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yportnova_bswartz, api question15:17
bswartzanyone else here want to share anything new?15:17
vikilandshould we  test manila with netapp shares ?15:17
eskerWho will be in attendance at the Design Summit in Hong Kong?15:17
bswartzlpabon: will you be available to contribute soon?15:18
vbellurbswartz: we have shortlisted one more candidate for Manila15:18
vbelluresker: I will be around15:18
yportnova_We have 2 versions of api. Shares are extensions to existing api. Leave v1 of api? Move shares api from contrib to v1?15:18
shamailesker: I will probably be attending15:18
bswartzvikiland: testing the netapp-specific backends is a low priority15:18
lpabonbswartz: I would like to get more familiar with the code and the blueprints.  Is there a wiki page which has the blueprints or should I search for them15:18
bswartzvikiland: I'd more interested in having a stable project and reaching incubation status15:19
eskerOkay, perhaps bswartz has already mentioned, but we'd like to plan on a design summit session (or some other gathering) to discuss / plan in person.15:19
vikilandbswartz: got it.15:19
bswartzlpabon: https://launchpad.net/manila/15:19
vbelluresker: sounds good15:20
bswartzyportnova_: we can take this opportunity to reset the API version as we remove the blocks stuff15:20
shamailQ: Have there been anymore discussions around network plumbing or auto-mounting in the guest?15:20
bswartzWe should only have a v1 API15:20
lpabonbswartz: nice, thanks.  I hope that by next week I will be cought up on the design and proposed tasks to be able to start contributing15:20
yportnova_bswartz: good, I will do it15:20
yportnova_what about default port for api?15:21
bswartzesker: thanks for reminging us, I plan to hold at least 1 un-conference session in HK on Manila. It would be nice to meet people face to face, and perhaps we'll have enough time to do some real planning work15:21
bswartzshamail: no we've been focusing on short term goals for the last month. the plumbing design will come back into focus soon though15:22
bswartzshamail: feel free to create some BPs -- I will be doing the same15:22
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shamailThanks.  I was also thinking about some potential user mapping related items but I am not certain where to push out "general thoughts"15:23
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bswartzyportnova_: I'm not sure how default ports are selected. It doesn't matter to me, but we shoud follow the process that other openstack projects do if possible15:23
shamailI think you just answered my second q in your reply.  I should look into BP submissions.15:23
vikilandbswartz: so we'll leave it as is15:24
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bswartzshamail: LP and the openstack wiki are both good options15:25
vikilandbswartz: we've already selected port for testing and we'll change it later if U'll need15:25
bswartzBPs go on LP and you can link to a more detailed functional spec on the openstack wiki15:25
shamailthanks.15:25
yportnova_bswartz: I will check how ports for projects are selected15:25
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bswartzyportnova_: I think the most important concern is just that we don't conflict with anything else in openstack15:26
bswartzbeyond that it shouldn't matter15:26
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yportnova_as vikiland wrote, we have temporary port for testing15:27
bswartzany other topics for today?15:27
vbellurnothing else from me15:28
bswartzif not I'll go work on the 1 action item and plan to see you all next week here15:28
lpabonexcellent15:28
vikilandno questions15:28
vbelokonbswartz: thanks15:28
bswartzI'm optimisitic that we might be able to go into stackforce in another week or 215:28
shamailtake care everyone!15:28
bswartzstackforge*15:28
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vbellurthanks everyone, ttyl!15:28
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bswartz#endmeeting15:28
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yportnova_no questions, thanks15:28
openstackMeeting ended Thu Sep  5 15:28:53 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:28
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-09-05-15.00.html15:28
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-09-05-15.00.txt15:28
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-09-05-15.00.log.html15:28
vikilandgreat work team. bye15:28
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vbelokonsee you next week15:29
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SergeyLukjanovsavanna team meeting will be here in 5 mins18:00
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SergeyLukjanovhi savanna folks18:04
mattfhi SergeyLukjanov18:05
jspeidel1Hi18:05
ruhehi18:05
NikitaKonovalovhi18:05
sballehi. I thougth I had missed the meeting. Glad to see I didn't18:05
akuznetsovhi18:05
SergeyLukjanov#startmeeting savanna18:05
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  5 18:05:34 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:05
dmitrymehello people18:05
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SergeyLukjanov#topic Agenda18:06
SergeyLukjanov#info News / updates18:06
SergeyLukjanov#info Roadmap cleanup / update18:06
SergeyLukjanov#info Action items from the last meeting18:06
SergeyLukjanov#info General discussion18:06
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SergeyLukjanov#topic News / updates18:06
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SergeyLukjanovfolks, please, any updates18:06
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tmckayI'll throw out a general note here.  ForeignKey constraints don't seem to be enabled by default in sqlite.  Discovered this yesterday.18:07
SergeyLukjanov#info we've sent official incubation request http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/014623.html18:07
tmckayI think for the sake of testing, we should fix sqlite connections to enforce FKs18:07
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jspeidel1all HWX patches have been merged for 0.2 except for our docs.  After that we will be good for the release18:07
mattfSergeyLukjanov, great job pulling that together!18:07
tmckayI can take an action item to create a bug for this18:07
nadyaregarding EDP: we've finished integration with Hive in EDP18:08
crobertsrhReasonable progress on UI for EDP.  It looks like I may need to double back a bit as some of the api methods will be changing soon which will require tweaks to existing pages.18:08
SergeyLukjanovthanks all for reviewing incubation application18:08
mattfjspeidel1, i'm on the edge of my seat ready to +1 those docs18:08
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ErikB1mattf, they will be in today. Can you clarify concern about being uncomfortable with merging of Hortonworks product language?18:09
ErikB1(with Savanna community language)18:10
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mattfErikB1, side - it looks like we're going to have a Cloudera contribution soon too.18:10
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SergeyLukjanov#info all patches except docs has been merged to 0.2.218:11
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mattfErikB1, my concern is mostly about how someone can come to the savanna project and use the plugins without having to go out to a vendor. the plugins themselves are part of the savanna source proper.18:11
asavumattf, hopefully I will have something working next week18:11
SergeyLukjanovErikB1, jspeidel1, any thoughts on potential 0.2.2 release date?18:12
mattfErikB1, i think it is something we should work out so everyone can operate in the community smoothly. i don't think we need to figure it out before your docs go in.18:12
ErikB1mattf, OK, not sure if there is a solution around that.18:12
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mattfErikB1, i was going to propose during general discussion that we get some ideas going18:12
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ErikB1SergeyLukjanov, assuming docs go in today, we would like 1 day of extra QA, so Monday.18:13
SergeyLukjanovok, sounds great18:13
NikitaKonovalovOne more update, basic Neutron support was added to Savanna core code18:13
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ErikB1Nikita - can you elaborate?18:14
NikitaKonovalov#info basic Neutron support added18:14
SergeyLukjanovErikB1, I'll push 0.2.2-rc1 version right after docs merge18:14
NikitaKonovalovmore complex mechanism of floating IP assignement is on review now18:14
ErikB1Nikita - does include support for QRouters?18:15
SergeyLukjanovErikB1, we're testing in on Open vSwitch18:16
SergeyLukjanovbut I think it should work with any backend18:16
SergeyLukjanovErikB1, btw can't google qrouter ;)18:16
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SergeyLukjanovany other updates?18:17
ErikB1Sergey - I mean quantum router :-)18:17
SergeyLukjanov(let's move discussions to the discussions section)18:17
SergeyLukjanovErikB1, ok:)18:18
SergeyLukjanovErikB1, btw it's neutron now18:18
SergeyLukjanov#topic Roadmap cleanup / update18:18
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ErikB1Still called qrouter. ;-) even in Neutron18:18
SergeyLukjanovone suggestion from my side - to move H support to 0.3 release18:19
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ErikB1Havanna?18:19
SergeyLukjanovyep18:19
mattfSergeyLukjanov, was neutron support the only missing piece for H support?18:20
SergeyLukjanovwe'll planning to release 0.3 in the time of H release, so, it'll be better to work ok with it18:20
mattfha, yeah18:20
ErikB1Havanna release is October 17th18:20
SergeyLukjanovmattf, neutron is still not the default networking for H18:20
ErikB1https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule - 0.3 was originally planned for Oct. 15th?18:20
SergeyLukjanovyep18:21
SergeyLukjanovwe'll need trusts for EDP18:22
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, so are you proposing we move 0.3 until after oct 17, or something else?18:22
SergeyLukjanovwe don't need the actual OS release, we just need to ensure that we're working good with H18:22
SergeyLukjanovand it sounds good to release >= oct 1718:23
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mattfsounds reasonable to me so long as the release is before summit18:23
SergeyLukjanovyep, let's update approximate release date to the Oct, 1718:24
SergeyLukjanovany objections?18:25
SergeyLukjanovand are there any objections for moving H support to the 0.3 version?18:25
mattfjspeidel1, jmaron, ErikB1 ^^ ?18:25
jspeidel1no objections18:25
ErikB1ship it18:26
SergeyLukjanov#action slukjanov to update roadmap: move H support to 0.3 and set 0.3 release date to Oct, 1718:26
SergeyLukjanov#undo18:27
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SergeyLukjanov#action SergeyLukjanov to update roadmap: move H support to 0.3 and set 0.3 release date to Oct, 1718:27
SergeyLukjanovok, let's move on18:27
SergeyLukjanov#topic Action items from the last meeting18:27
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SergeyLukjanov#info ACTION: slukjanov to move elements to the savanna-image-elements [DONE]18:27
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SergeyLukjanov#info ACTION: tmckay to create issues SavannaException [DONE]18:27
SergeyLukjanovtmckay, could you please post the link?18:27
tmckayyes, momentarily....18:28
tmckay#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/122130218:29
SergeyLukjanovthx18:29
SergeyLukjanovthere are no more action items from the last meeting18:29
SergeyLukjanov#topic General discussion18:29
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crobertsrhIf there are any dashboard experts around, I'd like thoughts on my approach to dynamic forms (adding extra rows/fields).  My current thought is here:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/dashboard_dynamic_form  I'm not sure I like the method all that much though.18:29
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tmckayas mentioned in updates :) (oops), ForeignKey constraints are off by default when using sqlite.  I always run with the sqlite db in /tmp, so this is a problem.  We need a bug, I think.18:30
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SergeyLukjanov#action tmckay to create an issue about FK @ sqlite18:32
NikitaKonovalovcrobertsrh, I'll take a look18:33
crobertsrhThanks.  Just poke me in #savanna whenever.18:33
crobertsrhI'm hoping that my relative inexperience with Django is blurring my vision on this one.18:34
mattfSergeyLukjanov, are you going to the next TC meeting?18:34
SergeyLukjanovyep, sure ;)18:35
mattfwant anyone else to confirm they'll be there too?18:35
SergeyLukjanovI'm participating them for the last 3 or four month18:35
SergeyLukjanovI hope that all active debs will go to it18:36
SergeyLukjanovRuslan, Dmitry and Ilya are already accepted my invitation for it18:36
mattfwill you extend that invite to the rht and hwx folks?18:36
SergeyLukjanovok, I'll do it18:37
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mattfasavu, rnirmal, you too?18:37
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asavumattf, I will try to attend18:38
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SergeyLukjanovmattf, are you planning to attend too?18:39
mattfyup18:39
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SergeyLukjanovgreat18:40
SergeyLukjanovany topics to discuss?18:41
mattfi'll hold my doc discussion for later18:42
SergeyLukjanovok, thank you folks!18:42
SergeyLukjanovhave a good day/night18:42
mattfErikB1, will you hop over to #savanna?18:42
jspeidel1thanks everyone18:42
SergeyLukjanov#info JFYI you can always use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions18:42
mattfthanks all18:42
SergeyLukjanov#endmeeting18:42
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markwasho/20:00
markwash#startmeeting glance20:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  5 20:00:41 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
zhiyan\o20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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zhiyanHi, any items on agenda ?20:01
markwashyes, mostly related to the recent release of Havana 320:02
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icchahey20:03
markwashhurray for highlighting!20:03
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icchaeveryones coming20:03
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markwashI wanna try to keep my part short, to allow for more open discussion or just plain taking a break today20:04
markwashso here are the items I want to touch on today20:04
markwash1) How to handle reviews during the FFE20:04
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jbresnahwave20:04
markwashs/FFE/feature freeze/20:04
markwash2) current and possible feature freeze exceptions20:04
markwash3) what's going on with async workers20:05
markwash4) priorities during FF20:05
markwashso let's get started! :-)20:05
icchawoohoo <3 agenda20:05
markwashJust wanted to remind all core reviewers that we're now in feature freeze20:05
markwashso if you see a new feature in a review, -2 it!20:05
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markwashafter RC1 is cut, we can remove our -2's (sep 26th ish)20:06
zhiyanmarkwash: cool20:06
icchaif soemthing is assigned to rc-1 is it in FFE?20:06
icchaor for after it?20:06
markwashimportant bug fixes are still fine to let through, but let's make sure they're important / safe20:06
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markwashiccha: that's what I was aiming for20:06
markwashI'd also like to see those aforementioned important bugs targeted to RC1 just to make sure we're reporting up all the things we need to share, and not letting any important issues slip by20:07
markwash#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-rc120:07
markwashthat ^^ shows what we're tracking as important bug fixes and FFE blueprints20:08
markwashAny questions about reviews and bugs during FF?20:08
jbresnahso if a review references a bug in that list we can approve it?20:08
markwashdefinitely20:08
jbresnahok cool20:08
markwashand its possible that some bug fixes need to be added to that list20:08
nikhiljbresnah: when I'm using tox, the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1220919 never happend20:09
jbresnahdoes that list need to freeze soon?20:09
markwashwell, they should have "triaged" status20:09
markwashjbresnah: I don't think it needs to freeze20:09
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markwashbut its important we curate it well20:09
jbresnahyeah20:09
markwashno sneaky wishlist feature-y bugs coming in :-)20:09
icchahehe20:09
markwashthe thing we want to care about right now is stability in the code20:10
markwashbecause there are folks who will be testing out the milestone proposed branch20:10
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markwashso we want to minimize the significance of changes between those two20:10
markwashOther questions?20:10
zhiyanmarkwash: can we add https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/1202098 in the rc1 list?20:10
zhiyanmarkwash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44490/20:11
markwashzhiyan: I think so20:11
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jbresnahyeah, that one is pretty straight forward and ready to go too i think20:11
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markwashcool20:11
zhiyanmarkwash: can you help adding it to list? since i can't change its Milestone field..20:11
markwashdone20:12
zhiyanjbresnah: yes20:12
zhiyanmarkwash: jbresnah: thanks.20:12
markwashLet's move on to current and proposed FFEs20:12
markwash#1 on this list for me is the last patch in protected properties, regarding v1 changes20:12
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markwashI'd actually like to see that land today so that I can push it into milestone proposed20:12
jbresnahah right20:12
markwashbut I can't tell quite if its ready20:13
* markwash looks for link20:13
icchaneeds little work but looks mostly good20:13
markwashhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/44703/20:13
jbresnahi havent looked at it again since the integration tests were added back in20:14
markwashwe might just have to send it in RC120:14
markwashif we can't get it together before very very early tomorrow20:15
markwashokay, a few other things have popped up20:15
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markwashFirst off, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:bp/glance-tests-code-duplication,n,z20:15
markwashthis feels like its just test cleanup20:15
markwashso I don't know that it should really be blocked by FF20:16
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ameade_+120:16
markwashI want to double check the reviews to ensure its only mucking with tests, but if that checks out, I'd like to grant an FFE and land it. . any other thoughts though? I don't want to be rash20:16
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jbresnahwell, it would be nice to verify that they offer the same test coverage20:17
jbresnahnot just in terms of LOC20:17
jbresnahbut in terms of logical paths20:17
jbresnahthat is sort of hard to do20:17
markwashjbresnah: good point20:17
jbresnahi would be ok with letting them in tho20:17
jbresnahbut the reviews will take time20:17
markwashI guess we can give it an FFE, but if the coverage changes for the worse, we'd just want to give a -1 regardless. . does that make sense?20:18
icchamakes sense20:18
jbresnahyeah20:18
icchahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/34801/ is close but its a big change20:19
markwashcool20:19
markwashyes I wanted to talk about that one. . lets hear about it now20:19
markwashone worry I have there is the docimpact20:19
markwashwhich seems pretty large20:19
icchait involves migrations20:19
icchaand docimpact20:19
markwashdo we have time/bandwidth to prep this?20:19
icchaand I am not sure if enough ppl have reviewed it20:20
markwashOTOH I'm worried that it is critical with the locations feature we released to make sense20:20
markwashiccha: so in the migration, credentials are stripped out20:21
icchayes thats right markwash20:21
markwashand the administrator is required to put the right creds into the config20:21
icchayeah thats right20:21
icchait deprecates some of the existing conf20:21
icchaand introduces new20:21
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markwashthe config part looks good20:22
markwashI feel like this bp is good for an FFE if we have the bandwidth to do the docs right20:22
icchalets go for it i know sridevi was asking about docs for it today20:22
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markwashwe just need to yell as loud as possible about this one to make sure people don't destroy their credential data20:23
iccha+10 that20:23
nikhilor +1M20:23
markwash:-)20:23
markwashso here's my plan20:23
markwashI still want another outside sanity check on this one20:23
markwashso let's put target the bp to RC1, but hold off on sending it in until at least next wednesday20:24
icchastuart has been looking at . but yes more the merrier20:24
ameade_how do we yell loud enough?20:24
markwashthat way ttx and others will have a chance to look at the fact we're proposing this20:24
* ameade_ is nervous20:24
nikhiloutside meaning, outside glance?20:24
markwashyeah, outside glance20:24
nikhil+120:24
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markwashI think an email to the list about it is also important at this stage20:24
icchathis kinda breaks backward compatibility for config20:25
icchais there a rule for such things?20:25
markwashiccha: hmm, it shouldn't do that20:25
nikhildid we cover string freeze?20:25
markwashiccha:  let's circle around about the config changes20:25
icchamarkwash: hmm yeah u re right20:26
nikhilor that is included in FFE?20:26
icchacool next one20:26
markwashI wanna grok that, a little distracted at this point20:26
markwashnikhil: good point, missed string freeze20:26
markwashlet's hit that in a moment20:26
markwashanother possible FFE20:27
markwashhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:bp/db-use-oslo-common-code,n,z20:27
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markwashthis one feels more borderline to me. . I think we can probably afford to wait20:27
ameadeis this a feature?20:27
markwashbut I'm a bit sad.. I meant to get it in in time :-(20:27
markwashameade: good question, I was assuming a few features were being picked up in the meanwhile20:28
markwashmaybe we can ask for some clarification about the feature-y-ness20:28
icchait introduced common code20:28
nikhilhaha, the MP says blueprint however, it does not exist!20:29
icchadont mind me i looked at only one review20:29
markwashokay, I'll leave that one on the docket and see if I can clear things up for myself in review20:29
markwashor bug boris-42 if I have questions20:29
markwashbut it might be most sensible to just land it very soon after RC120:30
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markwashokay, last one on my list is *drumroll*20:30
icchamaybe after rc120:31
* markwash searches for link20:31
* jbresnah anxiousy awaits20:31
icchalol20:31
* iccha waiting in anticipation20:31
jbresnah. o O ( that drummer must be exhausted )20:31
boris-42markwash hi20:31
markwashhaha20:32
boris-42markwash whats up?20:32
markwashboris-42: we were looking at FFE for bp db-use-oslo-common-code20:32
markwashffe -> feature freeze exception20:32
boris-42markwash I am not sure that it is good thing to merge it now20:32
nikhiljbresnah: nice 120:32
markwashokay, will it be fine to merge right after RC1?20:32
boris-42markwash it is better to wait IceHouse imho20:32
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markwashboris-42: thanks so much! that saves some effort20:33
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boris-42markwash but it will be really nice to make some efforts around reviewing it at benign of IceHouse20:33
markwashthe other bp I wanted to mention to folks in general is common notifier code20:34
boris-42markwash I real don't won't to block oslo.db lib20:34
markwashboris-42: great, will do!20:34
boris-42markwash thank you20:34
icchahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/37511/20:34
icchanotifier patch ^20:34
markwashiccha: you beat me to it20:34
markwashthat is listed as a bug but its really a feature20:34
markwashI'd still prefer to wait if possible, but I do hate to not have support for rabbit HA queues20:35
markwashthough I was recently informed that rabbit v3 doesn't require client changes to support HA20:35
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markwashlooks like best course here is also to leave this on the docket and square up with flwang later20:36
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markwashany other ffe topics people want to bring up before we touch on async workers?20:36
markwashcool20:37
markwashso I talked with nikhil and rosmaita yesterday20:37
markwashand we eventually agreed that, without actual conversion code at the ready, it makes sense to push off landing async processing until early havana20:37
markwashbut it is my desire to merge that stuff as quickly as possible in H120:38
markwashso it makes sense to keep working / reviewing for the current time period20:38
markwashthat's all I have there, any notes people want to share?20:38
nikhilthanks markwash , I'd communicated to flwang your concerns20:39
nikhilameade is here  too :)20:39
markwashnikhil: thanks so much for your understanding and all the hard work20:39
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nikhilmarkwash: one comment though (tiny one)20:39
nikhilcan we have some solid reviews on the existing patches?20:39
nikhilso, that there is some clear path forward and good momentum to build on :)20:40
markwashnikhil: yes I think that's absolutely critical20:40
nikhili mean, glance-core-reviewers in general20:40
nikhil:)20:40
markwashI'd really like to keep it basically in a rebased and +2-ready state as much as possible20:40
nikhilwill be on it20:41
markwashI think as long as we keep the first review in the series -2 for FF reasons, we can do whatever we want +2 wise for the later reviews20:41
markwashokay, finally, I have a note or two about priorities for our time during FF20:41
markwashnot that I get to say how people spend their time! :-)20:41
nikhilthanks, though if we'd clear consensus on the design it would be awesome \o/20:42
markwashas I think I mentioned before, we want to make sure important bugs are being noted and prioritized20:42
markwashat minimum20:42
markwashit would also be nice to start adding some more docs20:42
markwashwhich is an area I've been woefully inadequate with20:42
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markwashand finally, the FF doesn't really affect glanceclient20:43
ameadedocs are a good point20:43
markwashso esheffield I'd like us to keep pushing in the direction of a fully-fledged v2 client20:43
markwashdon't let me miss out on such reviews20:43
markwashI'd really like to release v1.0 of the client before the stable branch of openstack/glance is cut20:44
markwashand might finally have some time to spend there! :-)20:44
esheffieldsounds good to me!20:44
esheffieldI think we're really close20:44
icchait doesnt have v1.0 yet ! :O20:44
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markwashiccha: well. . not quite what I meant :-)20:45
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markwashso, nikhil brought up stringfreeze20:45
markwashthat's something I neglected to mention as part of the general FF20:45
markwashwe are not supposed to change any public-facing strings20:45
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markwashlest we muck up translation efforts I believe20:46
markwashany other FF related notes? or should we jump into open discussion?20:46
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markwash#topic open-discussion20:47
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icchamarkwash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44801/ is this imp enough for FFE?20:48
ameade+120:48
markwashI like it20:48
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markwashwho's going to be at the summit?20:49
nikhillooks like they are addressing those comments20:49
markwasho/20:49
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nikhil-120:50
iccha-120:50
icchai think zhi or flwang said they ll be there20:50
icchaand flavio i guess20:50
zhiyaniccha: :)20:50
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jbresnahi will not be20:50
zhiyanjbresnah: oh no20:50
* jbresnah bursts into tears20:50
zhiyanjbresnah: confirmed?20:50
* iccha hands jbresnah a tissue20:50
jbresnahseems so20:50
markwashsigh20:51
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zhiyanmarkwash: btw, as you mentioned, i think we'd better give a priority to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1202098 , can you help set that?20:51
nikhilisn't it nearer from hawaii20:51
nikhilor my geagraphy is weak :(20:51
nikhilneed to spell right20:52
jbresnahheh20:52
jbresnahsort of near20:52
jbresnahbut still way too expensive to cover myself20:52
markwashobviously we need the summit to be in hawaii sometime20:52
jbresnahnod20:53
icchaglance summit20:53
markwashhaha yes that one20:53
jbresnaheveryone wins with thta!20:53
nikhil+1B*e^1B20:53
jbresnahits in the middle of nowhere!20:53
icchaso it makes it absolutely vital for us to be there20:53
jbresnahand i am the only developer that lives here20:53
jbresnahheh20:53
jbresnahi looked into a meetup20:53
jbresnahbut i thought it would be lonely20:53
markwashlol20:54
markwashjust jbresnah hanging out in a room20:54
jbresnahnod20:54
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markwashokay thanks everybody20:54
markwash#endmeeting20:55
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