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bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 5 15:00:47 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
vbellur | bswartz: hello | 15:01 |
bswartz | good morning everyone | 15:01 |
lpabon | hi | 15:01 |
vikiland | hi | 15:01 |
vbelokon | hi | 15:01 |
vponomaryov | hi | 15:01 |
shamail | good morning | 15:01 |
yportnova_ | hi | 15:01 |
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bswartz | wow lots of people here today | 15:01 |
bswartz | sorry if I'm disorganized, I'm travelling today | 15:02 |
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bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ManilaMeetings | 15:02 |
bswartz | for those of you who weren't here last week, we have engineers working on the code finally | 15:03 |
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bswartz | vbelokon has volunteed to give us an update on development progress | 15:03 |
bswartz | #topic development progress | 15:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "development progress (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
vbelokon | bswartz: ok, let me present short report | 15:03 |
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vbelokon | DevStack - Supporting Manila in DevStack was implemented. It's in testing now. Link to Git: [https://github.com/119Vik/devstack] (master branch) | 15:04 |
vbelokon | bswartz: Could you please provide repository to push Manila-DevStack code (requirements - target repo + allowed access)? | 15:05 |
bswartz | #link https://github.com/119Vik/devstack | 15:05 |
bswartz | vbelokon: sure | 15:05 |
vbelokon | ok next | 15:05 |
vbelokon | Attributes "Cinder" was renamed to "Manila" in many places in the Manila project. And we are working on unit-tests of Manila now. | 15:05 |
vbelokon | First "smoke testing" of Manila service was performed. Bugs and issues were found. QA are in-progress. Tempest. Preparing of positive and negative tests are in-progress. Functionality for Tempest (Manila Manager) is ready. | 15:06 |
vbelokon | Several questions from QA team: | 15:06 |
vbelokon | 1) We have some stuff from Cinder as quotas for users and etc. Do we need to keep it in Manila or should we remove? | 15:06 |
bswartz | vbelokon: we want to keep quota support | 15:07 |
vbelokon | 2) Current tempest in repo http://github.com/bswartz/tempest in branch "manila" is grizzly tempest. Our tempest is based on latest havana tempest, so, should we completely replace it or make branch like "manila/havana"? | 15:07 |
bswartz | it wouldn't surprise me if there are bugs in the quota code however | 15:07 |
vbelokon | bswartz: ok, thanks, we will keep quota | 15:07 |
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vponomaryov | as for tempest - it is in fast change period, so was not commited yet to repo | 15:08 |
vponomaryov | addition to question 2) | 15:09 |
* KenD should probably make a new repo 'manila/icehouse | 15:09 | |
bswartz | vbelokon: will it be hard to merge the manila/temptest changes with recent havana changes? | 15:09 |
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lpabon | if we copy code from Cinder, does that mean Manila will start diverging? Will someone keep the common code up to date? Is there a plan to have a common base? | 15:09 |
vbelokon | let's ask vponomaryov | 15:10 |
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vbelokon | abput tempest | 15:10 |
bswartz | KenD: I'd rather wait until we've got the code in stackforge before worrying about icehouse | 15:10 |
vponomaryov | no, it is not hard to merge, but it is really different, it has modified structure | 15:10 |
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bswartz | lpabon: that's a concern, yes. Ideally we will move common stuff into oslo, but that's not on the critical path for us | 15:10 |
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lpabon | bswartz: cool | 15:11 |
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KenD | msg/ <kend> bswartz: good with that | 15:11 |
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vbelokon | bswartz: about tempest - I think it's better to merge with Havana | 15:12 |
esker | hello | 15:12 |
vikiland | рш | 15:12 |
vikiland | hi | 15:12 |
bswartz | vbelokon: you mentioned finding some bugs already | 15:12 |
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bswartz | can we file them in LP? | 15:12 |
vikiland | yeah it's related to rename process | 15:12 |
vbelokon | yes we can, but it's better to publish them in LP a bit latter | 15:13 |
vbelokon | now a lot of minor issues | 15:13 |
vbelokon | later when we have a stable project all bugs we will publish in LP | 15:13 |
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bswartz | vbelokon: now that you've been working on the code for a bit, how soon do you expect we can complete the first 2 BPs? | 15:14 |
vbelokon | so during next week we are planning: | 15:14 |
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vbelokon | bswartz: in one weel | 15:14 |
vbelokon | bswartz: in one week | 15:14 |
vbelokon | our plan is: | 15:14 |
vbelokon | - NFS/CIFS servers configuration and supporting | 15:15 |
vbelokon | - rename / refactoring / cleanup / bug fix of manila-clinet | 15:15 |
vbelokon | - tempest tests | 15:15 |
vbelokon | - bug fixing of manila | 15:15 |
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bswartz | that sounds great | 15:15 |
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bswartz | I think we need to get the code into stackforge before we can start pushing our tempest and devstack changes upstream | 15:15 |
bswartz | any problem keeping those changes in github for a wihle? | 15:15 |
vbelokon | so, that's is my short report from our side :) | 15:16 |
vikiland | тщ | 15:16 |
vikiland | no | 15:16 |
bswartz | okay | 15:16 |
bswartz | #action make a shared devstack repo available | 15:16 |
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bswartz | #topic open floor | 15:17 |
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yportnova_ | bswartz, api question | 15:17 |
bswartz | anyone else here want to share anything new? | 15:17 |
vikiland | should we test manila with netapp shares ? | 15:17 |
esker | Who will be in attendance at the Design Summit in Hong Kong? | 15:17 |
bswartz | lpabon: will you be available to contribute soon? | 15:18 |
vbellur | bswartz: we have shortlisted one more candidate for Manila | 15:18 |
vbellur | esker: I will be around | 15:18 |
yportnova_ | We have 2 versions of api. Shares are extensions to existing api. Leave v1 of api? Move shares api from contrib to v1? | 15:18 |
shamail | esker: I will probably be attending | 15:18 |
bswartz | vikiland: testing the netapp-specific backends is a low priority | 15:18 |
lpabon | bswartz: I would like to get more familiar with the code and the blueprints. Is there a wiki page which has the blueprints or should I search for them | 15:18 |
bswartz | vikiland: I'd more interested in having a stable project and reaching incubation status | 15:19 |
esker | Okay, perhaps bswartz has already mentioned, but we'd like to plan on a design summit session (or some other gathering) to discuss / plan in person. | 15:19 |
vikiland | bswartz: got it. | 15:19 |
bswartz | lpabon: https://launchpad.net/manila/ | 15:19 |
vbellur | esker: sounds good | 15:20 |
bswartz | yportnova_: we can take this opportunity to reset the API version as we remove the blocks stuff | 15:20 |
shamail | Q: Have there been anymore discussions around network plumbing or auto-mounting in the guest? | 15:20 |
bswartz | We should only have a v1 API | 15:20 |
lpabon | bswartz: nice, thanks. I hope that by next week I will be cought up on the design and proposed tasks to be able to start contributing | 15:20 |
yportnova_ | bswartz: good, I will do it | 15:20 |
yportnova_ | what about default port for api? | 15:21 |
bswartz | esker: thanks for reminging us, I plan to hold at least 1 un-conference session in HK on Manila. It would be nice to meet people face to face, and perhaps we'll have enough time to do some real planning work | 15:21 |
bswartz | shamail: no we've been focusing on short term goals for the last month. the plumbing design will come back into focus soon though | 15:22 |
bswartz | shamail: feel free to create some BPs -- I will be doing the same | 15:22 |
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shamail | Thanks. I was also thinking about some potential user mapping related items but I am not certain where to push out "general thoughts" | 15:23 |
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bswartz | yportnova_: I'm not sure how default ports are selected. It doesn't matter to me, but we shoud follow the process that other openstack projects do if possible | 15:23 |
shamail | I think you just answered my second q in your reply. I should look into BP submissions. | 15:23 |
vikiland | bswartz: so we'll leave it as is | 15:24 |
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bswartz | shamail: LP and the openstack wiki are both good options | 15:25 |
vikiland | bswartz: we've already selected port for testing and we'll change it later if U'll need | 15:25 |
bswartz | BPs go on LP and you can link to a more detailed functional spec on the openstack wiki | 15:25 |
shamail | thanks. | 15:25 |
yportnova_ | bswartz: I will check how ports for projects are selected | 15:25 |
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bswartz | yportnova_: I think the most important concern is just that we don't conflict with anything else in openstack | 15:26 |
bswartz | beyond that it shouldn't matter | 15:26 |
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yportnova_ | as vikiland wrote, we have temporary port for testing | 15:27 |
bswartz | any other topics for today? | 15:27 |
vbellur | nothing else from me | 15:28 |
bswartz | if not I'll go work on the 1 action item and plan to see you all next week here | 15:28 |
lpabon | excellent | 15:28 |
vikiland | no questions | 15:28 |
vbelokon | bswartz: thanks | 15:28 |
bswartz | I'm optimisitic that we might be able to go into stackforce in another week or 2 | 15:28 |
shamail | take care everyone! | 15:28 |
bswartz | stackforge* | 15:28 |
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vbellur | thanks everyone, ttyl! | 15:28 |
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bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:28 |
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yportnova_ | no questions, thanks | 15:28 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 5 15:28:53 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-09-05-15.00.html | 15:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-09-05-15.00.txt | 15:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2013/manila.2013-09-05-15.00.log.html | 15:28 |
vikiland | great work team. bye | 15:28 |
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vbelokon | see you next week | 15:29 |
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SergeyLukjanov | savanna team meeting will be here in 5 mins | 18:00 |
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SergeyLukjanov | hi savanna folks | 18:04 |
mattf | hi SergeyLukjanov | 18:05 |
jspeidel1 | Hi | 18:05 |
ruhe | hi | 18:05 |
NikitaKonovalov | hi | 18:05 |
sballe | hi. I thougth I had missed the meeting. Glad to see I didn't | 18:05 |
akuznetsov | hi | 18:05 |
SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting savanna | 18:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 5 18:05:34 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:05 |
dmitryme | hello people | 18:05 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'savanna' | 18:05 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #topic Agenda | 18:06 |
SergeyLukjanov | #info News / updates | 18:06 |
SergeyLukjanov | #info Roadmap cleanup / update | 18:06 |
SergeyLukjanov | #info Action items from the last meeting | 18:06 |
SergeyLukjanov | #info General discussion | 18:06 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:06 |
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SergeyLukjanov | folks, please, any updates | 18:06 |
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tmckay | I'll throw out a general note here. ForeignKey constraints don't seem to be enabled by default in sqlite. Discovered this yesterday. | 18:07 |
SergeyLukjanov | #info we've sent official incubation request http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/014623.html | 18:07 |
tmckay | I think for the sake of testing, we should fix sqlite connections to enforce FKs | 18:07 |
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jspeidel1 | all HWX patches have been merged for 0.2 except for our docs. After that we will be good for the release | 18:07 |
mattf | SergeyLukjanov, great job pulling that together! | 18:07 |
tmckay | I can take an action item to create a bug for this | 18:07 |
nadya | regarding EDP: we've finished integration with Hive in EDP | 18:08 |
crobertsrh | Reasonable progress on UI for EDP. It looks like I may need to double back a bit as some of the api methods will be changing soon which will require tweaks to existing pages. | 18:08 |
SergeyLukjanov | thanks all for reviewing incubation application | 18:08 |
mattf | jspeidel1, i'm on the edge of my seat ready to +1 those docs | 18:08 |
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ErikB1 | mattf, they will be in today. Can you clarify concern about being uncomfortable with merging of Hortonworks product language? | 18:09 |
ErikB1 | (with Savanna community language) | 18:10 |
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mattf | ErikB1, side - it looks like we're going to have a Cloudera contribution soon too. | 18:10 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #info all patches except docs has been merged to 0.2.2 | 18:11 |
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mattf | ErikB1, my concern is mostly about how someone can come to the savanna project and use the plugins without having to go out to a vendor. the plugins themselves are part of the savanna source proper. | 18:11 |
asavu | mattf, hopefully I will have something working next week | 18:11 |
SergeyLukjanov | ErikB1, jspeidel1, any thoughts on potential 0.2.2 release date? | 18:12 |
mattf | ErikB1, i think it is something we should work out so everyone can operate in the community smoothly. i don't think we need to figure it out before your docs go in. | 18:12 |
ErikB1 | mattf, OK, not sure if there is a solution around that. | 18:12 |
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mattf | ErikB1, i was going to propose during general discussion that we get some ideas going | 18:12 |
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ErikB1 | SergeyLukjanov, assuming docs go in today, we would like 1 day of extra QA, so Monday. | 18:13 |
SergeyLukjanov | ok, sounds great | 18:13 |
NikitaKonovalov | One more update, basic Neutron support was added to Savanna core code | 18:13 |
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ErikB1 | Nikita - can you elaborate? | 18:14 |
NikitaKonovalov | #info basic Neutron support added | 18:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | ErikB1, I'll push 0.2.2-rc1 version right after docs merge | 18:14 |
NikitaKonovalov | more complex mechanism of floating IP assignement is on review now | 18:14 |
ErikB1 | Nikita - does include support for QRouters? | 18:15 |
SergeyLukjanov | ErikB1, we're testing in on Open vSwitch | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | but I think it should work with any backend | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | ErikB1, btw can't google qrouter ;) | 18:16 |
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SergeyLukjanov | any other updates? | 18:17 |
ErikB1 | Sergey - I mean quantum router :-) | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | (let's move discussions to the discussions section) | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | ErikB1, ok:) | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | ErikB1, btw it's neutron now | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic Roadmap cleanup / update | 18:18 |
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ErikB1 | Still called qrouter. ;-) even in Neutron | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | one suggestion from my side - to move H support to 0.3 release | 18:19 |
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ErikB1 | Havanna? | 18:19 |
SergeyLukjanov | yep | 18:19 |
mattf | SergeyLukjanov, was neutron support the only missing piece for H support? | 18:20 |
SergeyLukjanov | we'll planning to release 0.3 in the time of H release, so, it'll be better to work ok with it | 18:20 |
mattf | ha, yeah | 18:20 |
ErikB1 | Havanna release is October 17th | 18:20 |
SergeyLukjanov | mattf, neutron is still not the default networking for H | 18:20 |
ErikB1 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule - 0.3 was originally planned for Oct. 15th? | 18:20 |
SergeyLukjanov | yep | 18:21 |
SergeyLukjanov | we'll need trusts for EDP | 18:22 |
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mattf | SergeyLukjanov, so are you proposing we move 0.3 until after oct 17, or something else? | 18:22 |
SergeyLukjanov | we don't need the actual OS release, we just need to ensure that we're working good with H | 18:22 |
SergeyLukjanov | and it sounds good to release >= oct 17 | 18:23 |
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mattf | sounds reasonable to me so long as the release is before summit | 18:23 |
SergeyLukjanov | yep, let's update approximate release date to the Oct, 17 | 18:24 |
SergeyLukjanov | any objections? | 18:25 |
SergeyLukjanov | and are there any objections for moving H support to the 0.3 version? | 18:25 |
mattf | jspeidel1, jmaron, ErikB1 ^^ ? | 18:25 |
jspeidel1 | no objections | 18:25 |
ErikB1 | ship it | 18:26 |
SergeyLukjanov | #action slukjanov to update roadmap: move H support to 0.3 and set 0.3 release date to Oct, 17 | 18:26 |
SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 18:27 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x32714d0> | 18:27 |
SergeyLukjanov | #action SergeyLukjanov to update roadmap: move H support to 0.3 and set 0.3 release date to Oct, 17 | 18:27 |
SergeyLukjanov | ok, let's move on | 18:27 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 18:27 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #info ACTION: slukjanov to move elements to the savanna-image-elements [DONE] | 18:27 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #info ACTION: tmckay to create issues SavannaException [DONE] | 18:27 |
SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, could you please post the link? | 18:27 |
tmckay | yes, momentarily.... | 18:28 |
tmckay | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/savanna/+bug/1221302 | 18:29 |
SergeyLukjanov | thx | 18:29 |
SergeyLukjanov | there are no more action items from the last meeting | 18:29 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic General discussion | 18:29 |
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crobertsrh | If there are any dashboard experts around, I'd like thoughts on my approach to dynamic forms (adding extra rows/fields). My current thought is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/dashboard_dynamic_form I'm not sure I like the method all that much though. | 18:29 |
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tmckay | as mentioned in updates :) (oops), ForeignKey constraints are off by default when using sqlite. I always run with the sqlite db in /tmp, so this is a problem. We need a bug, I think. | 18:30 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #action tmckay to create an issue about FK @ sqlite | 18:32 |
NikitaKonovalov | crobertsrh, I'll take a look | 18:33 |
crobertsrh | Thanks. Just poke me in #savanna whenever. | 18:33 |
crobertsrh | I'm hoping that my relative inexperience with Django is blurring my vision on this one. | 18:34 |
mattf | SergeyLukjanov, are you going to the next TC meeting? | 18:34 |
SergeyLukjanov | yep, sure ;) | 18:35 |
mattf | want anyone else to confirm they'll be there too? | 18:35 |
SergeyLukjanov | I'm participating them for the last 3 or four month | 18:35 |
SergeyLukjanov | I hope that all active debs will go to it | 18:36 |
SergeyLukjanov | Ruslan, Dmitry and Ilya are already accepted my invitation for it | 18:36 |
mattf | will you extend that invite to the rht and hwx folks? | 18:36 |
SergeyLukjanov | ok, I'll do it | 18:37 |
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mattf | asavu, rnirmal, you too? | 18:37 |
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asavu | mattf, I will try to attend | 18:38 |
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SergeyLukjanov | mattf, are you planning to attend too? | 18:39 |
mattf | yup | 18:39 |
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SergeyLukjanov | great | 18:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | any topics to discuss? | 18:41 |
mattf | i'll hold my doc discussion for later | 18:42 |
SergeyLukjanov | ok, thank you folks! | 18:42 |
SergeyLukjanov | have a good day/night | 18:42 |
mattf | ErikB1, will you hop over to #savanna? | 18:42 |
jspeidel1 | thanks everyone | 18:42 |
SergeyLukjanov | #info JFYI you can always use openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailing lists and #savanna irc channel to find us and ask your questions | 18:42 |
mattf | thanks all | 18:42 |
SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:42 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 5 18:42:56 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-09-05-18.05.html | 18:42 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-09-05-18.05.txt | 18:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-09-05-18.05.log.html | 18:43 |
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markwash | o/ | 20:00 |
markwash | #startmeeting glance | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 5 20:00:41 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
zhiyan | \o | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 20:00 |
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zhiyan | Hi, any items on agenda ? | 20:01 |
markwash | yes, mostly related to the recent release of Havana 3 | 20:02 |
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iccha | hey | 20:03 |
markwash | hurray for highlighting! | 20:03 |
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iccha | everyones coming | 20:03 |
esheffield | o/ | 20:03 |
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markwash | I wanna try to keep my part short, to allow for more open discussion or just plain taking a break today | 20:04 |
markwash | so here are the items I want to touch on today | 20:04 |
markwash | 1) How to handle reviews during the FFE | 20:04 |
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jbresnah | wave | 20:04 |
markwash | s/FFE/feature freeze/ | 20:04 |
markwash | 2) current and possible feature freeze exceptions | 20:04 |
markwash | 3) what's going on with async workers | 20:05 |
markwash | 4) priorities during FF | 20:05 |
markwash | so let's get started! :-) | 20:05 |
iccha | woohoo <3 agenda | 20:05 |
markwash | Just wanted to remind all core reviewers that we're now in feature freeze | 20:05 |
markwash | so if you see a new feature in a review, -2 it! | 20:05 |
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markwash | after RC1 is cut, we can remove our -2's (sep 26th ish) | 20:06 |
zhiyan | markwash: cool | 20:06 |
iccha | if soemthing is assigned to rc-1 is it in FFE? | 20:06 |
iccha | or for after it? | 20:06 |
markwash | important bug fixes are still fine to let through, but let's make sure they're important / safe | 20:06 |
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markwash | iccha: that's what I was aiming for | 20:06 |
markwash | I'd also like to see those aforementioned important bugs targeted to RC1 just to make sure we're reporting up all the things we need to share, and not letting any important issues slip by | 20:07 |
markwash | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-rc1 | 20:07 |
markwash | that ^^ shows what we're tracking as important bug fixes and FFE blueprints | 20:08 |
markwash | Any questions about reviews and bugs during FF? | 20:08 |
jbresnah | so if a review references a bug in that list we can approve it? | 20:08 |
markwash | definitely | 20:08 |
jbresnah | ok cool | 20:08 |
markwash | and its possible that some bug fixes need to be added to that list | 20:08 |
nikhil | jbresnah: when I'm using tox, the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1220919 never happend | 20:09 |
jbresnah | does that list need to freeze soon? | 20:09 |
markwash | well, they should have "triaged" status | 20:09 |
markwash | jbresnah: I don't think it needs to freeze | 20:09 |
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markwash | but its important we curate it well | 20:09 |
jbresnah | yeah | 20:09 |
markwash | no sneaky wishlist feature-y bugs coming in :-) | 20:09 |
iccha | hehe | 20:09 |
markwash | the thing we want to care about right now is stability in the code | 20:10 |
markwash | because there are folks who will be testing out the milestone proposed branch | 20:10 |
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markwash | so we want to minimize the significance of changes between those two | 20:10 |
markwash | Other questions? | 20:10 |
zhiyan | markwash: can we add https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/1202098 in the rc1 list? | 20:10 |
zhiyan | markwash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44490/ | 20:11 |
markwash | zhiyan: I think so | 20:11 |
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jbresnah | yeah, that one is pretty straight forward and ready to go too i think | 20:11 |
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markwash | cool | 20:11 |
zhiyan | markwash: can you help adding it to list? since i can't change its Milestone field.. | 20:11 |
markwash | done | 20:12 |
zhiyan | jbresnah: yes | 20:12 |
zhiyan | markwash: jbresnah: thanks. | 20:12 |
markwash | Let's move on to current and proposed FFEs | 20:12 |
markwash | #1 on this list for me is the last patch in protected properties, regarding v1 changes | 20:12 |
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markwash | I'd actually like to see that land today so that I can push it into milestone proposed | 20:12 |
jbresnah | ah right | 20:12 |
markwash | but I can't tell quite if its ready | 20:13 |
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iccha | needs little work but looks mostly good | 20:13 |
markwash | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44703/ | 20:13 |
jbresnah | i havent looked at it again since the integration tests were added back in | 20:14 |
markwash | we might just have to send it in RC1 | 20:14 |
markwash | if we can't get it together before very very early tomorrow | 20:15 |
markwash | okay, a few other things have popped up | 20:15 |
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markwash | First off, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:bp/glance-tests-code-duplication,n,z | 20:15 |
markwash | this feels like its just test cleanup | 20:15 |
markwash | so I don't know that it should really be blocked by FF | 20:16 |
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ameade_ | +1 | 20:16 |
markwash | I want to double check the reviews to ensure its only mucking with tests, but if that checks out, I'd like to grant an FFE and land it. . any other thoughts though? I don't want to be rash | 20:16 |
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jbresnah | well, it would be nice to verify that they offer the same test coverage | 20:17 |
jbresnah | not just in terms of LOC | 20:17 |
jbresnah | but in terms of logical paths | 20:17 |
jbresnah | that is sort of hard to do | 20:17 |
markwash | jbresnah: good point | 20:17 |
jbresnah | i would be ok with letting them in tho | 20:17 |
jbresnah | but the reviews will take time | 20:17 |
markwash | I guess we can give it an FFE, but if the coverage changes for the worse, we'd just want to give a -1 regardless. . does that make sense? | 20:18 |
iccha | makes sense | 20:18 |
jbresnah | yeah | 20:18 |
iccha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34801/ is close but its a big change | 20:19 |
markwash | cool | 20:19 |
markwash | yes I wanted to talk about that one. . lets hear about it now | 20:19 |
markwash | one worry I have there is the docimpact | 20:19 |
markwash | which seems pretty large | 20:19 |
iccha | it involves migrations | 20:19 |
iccha | and docimpact | 20:19 |
markwash | do we have time/bandwidth to prep this? | 20:19 |
iccha | and I am not sure if enough ppl have reviewed it | 20:20 |
markwash | OTOH I'm worried that it is critical with the locations feature we released to make sense | 20:20 |
markwash | iccha: so in the migration, credentials are stripped out | 20:21 |
iccha | yes thats right markwash | 20:21 |
markwash | and the administrator is required to put the right creds into the config | 20:21 |
iccha | yeah thats right | 20:21 |
iccha | it deprecates some of the existing conf | 20:21 |
iccha | and introduces new | 20:21 |
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markwash | the config part looks good | 20:22 |
markwash | I feel like this bp is good for an FFE if we have the bandwidth to do the docs right | 20:22 |
iccha | lets go for it i know sridevi was asking about docs for it today | 20:22 |
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markwash | we just need to yell as loud as possible about this one to make sure people don't destroy their credential data | 20:23 |
iccha | +10 that | 20:23 |
nikhil | or +1M | 20:23 |
markwash | :-) | 20:23 |
markwash | so here's my plan | 20:23 |
markwash | I still want another outside sanity check on this one | 20:23 |
markwash | so let's put target the bp to RC1, but hold off on sending it in until at least next wednesday | 20:24 |
iccha | stuart has been looking at . but yes more the merrier | 20:24 |
ameade_ | how do we yell loud enough? | 20:24 |
markwash | that way ttx and others will have a chance to look at the fact we're proposing this | 20:24 |
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nikhil | outside meaning, outside glance? | 20:24 |
markwash | yeah, outside glance | 20:24 |
nikhil | +1 | 20:24 |
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markwash | I think an email to the list about it is also important at this stage | 20:24 |
iccha | this kinda breaks backward compatibility for config | 20:25 |
iccha | is there a rule for such things? | 20:25 |
markwash | iccha: hmm, it shouldn't do that | 20:25 |
nikhil | did we cover string freeze? | 20:25 |
markwash | iccha: let's circle around about the config changes | 20:25 |
iccha | markwash: hmm yeah u re right | 20:26 |
nikhil | or that is included in FFE? | 20:26 |
iccha | cool next one | 20:26 |
markwash | I wanna grok that, a little distracted at this point | 20:26 |
markwash | nikhil: good point, missed string freeze | 20:26 |
markwash | let's hit that in a moment | 20:26 |
markwash | another possible FFE | 20:27 |
markwash | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:bp/db-use-oslo-common-code,n,z | 20:27 |
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markwash | this one feels more borderline to me. . I think we can probably afford to wait | 20:27 |
ameade | is this a feature? | 20:27 |
markwash | but I'm a bit sad.. I meant to get it in in time :-( | 20:27 |
markwash | ameade: good question, I was assuming a few features were being picked up in the meanwhile | 20:28 |
markwash | maybe we can ask for some clarification about the feature-y-ness | 20:28 |
iccha | it introduced common code | 20:28 |
nikhil | haha, the MP says blueprint however, it does not exist! | 20:29 |
iccha | dont mind me i looked at only one review | 20:29 |
markwash | okay, I'll leave that one on the docket and see if I can clear things up for myself in review | 20:29 |
markwash | or bug boris-42 if I have questions | 20:29 |
markwash | but it might be most sensible to just land it very soon after RC1 | 20:30 |
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markwash | okay, last one on my list is *drumroll* | 20:30 |
iccha | maybe after rc1 | 20:31 |
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* jbresnah anxiousy awaits | 20:31 | |
iccha | lol | 20:31 |
* iccha waiting in anticipation | 20:31 | |
jbresnah | . o O ( that drummer must be exhausted ) | 20:31 |
boris-42 | markwash hi | 20:31 |
markwash | haha | 20:32 |
boris-42 | markwash whats up? | 20:32 |
markwash | boris-42: we were looking at FFE for bp db-use-oslo-common-code | 20:32 |
markwash | ffe -> feature freeze exception | 20:32 |
boris-42 | markwash I am not sure that it is good thing to merge it now | 20:32 |
nikhil | jbresnah: nice 1 | 20:32 |
markwash | okay, will it be fine to merge right after RC1? | 20:32 |
boris-42 | markwash it is better to wait IceHouse imho | 20:32 |
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markwash | boris-42: thanks so much! that saves some effort | 20:33 |
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boris-42 | markwash but it will be really nice to make some efforts around reviewing it at benign of IceHouse | 20:33 |
markwash | the other bp I wanted to mention to folks in general is common notifier code | 20:34 |
boris-42 | markwash I real don't won't to block oslo.db lib | 20:34 |
markwash | boris-42: great, will do! | 20:34 |
boris-42 | markwash thank you | 20:34 |
iccha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37511/ | 20:34 |
iccha | notifier patch ^ | 20:34 |
markwash | iccha: you beat me to it | 20:34 |
markwash | that is listed as a bug but its really a feature | 20:34 |
markwash | I'd still prefer to wait if possible, but I do hate to not have support for rabbit HA queues | 20:35 |
markwash | though I was recently informed that rabbit v3 doesn't require client changes to support HA | 20:35 |
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markwash | looks like best course here is also to leave this on the docket and square up with flwang later | 20:36 |
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markwash | any other ffe topics people want to bring up before we touch on async workers? | 20:36 |
markwash | cool | 20:37 |
markwash | so I talked with nikhil and rosmaita yesterday | 20:37 |
markwash | and we eventually agreed that, without actual conversion code at the ready, it makes sense to push off landing async processing until early havana | 20:37 |
markwash | but it is my desire to merge that stuff as quickly as possible in H1 | 20:38 |
markwash | so it makes sense to keep working / reviewing for the current time period | 20:38 |
markwash | that's all I have there, any notes people want to share? | 20:38 |
nikhil | thanks markwash , I'd communicated to flwang your concerns | 20:39 |
nikhil | ameade is here too :) | 20:39 |
markwash | nikhil: thanks so much for your understanding and all the hard work | 20:39 |
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nikhil | markwash: one comment though (tiny one) | 20:39 |
nikhil | can we have some solid reviews on the existing patches? | 20:39 |
nikhil | so, that there is some clear path forward and good momentum to build on :) | 20:40 |
markwash | nikhil: yes I think that's absolutely critical | 20:40 |
nikhil | i mean, glance-core-reviewers in general | 20:40 |
nikhil | :) | 20:40 |
markwash | I'd really like to keep it basically in a rebased and +2-ready state as much as possible | 20:40 |
nikhil | will be on it | 20:41 |
markwash | I think as long as we keep the first review in the series -2 for FF reasons, we can do whatever we want +2 wise for the later reviews | 20:41 |
markwash | okay, finally, I have a note or two about priorities for our time during FF | 20:41 |
markwash | not that I get to say how people spend their time! :-) | 20:41 |
nikhil | thanks, though if we'd clear consensus on the design it would be awesome \o/ | 20:42 |
markwash | as I think I mentioned before, we want to make sure important bugs are being noted and prioritized | 20:42 |
markwash | at minimum | 20:42 |
markwash | it would also be nice to start adding some more docs | 20:42 |
markwash | which is an area I've been woefully inadequate with | 20:42 |
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markwash | and finally, the FF doesn't really affect glanceclient | 20:43 |
ameade | docs are a good point | 20:43 |
markwash | so esheffield I'd like us to keep pushing in the direction of a fully-fledged v2 client | 20:43 |
markwash | don't let me miss out on such reviews | 20:43 |
markwash | I'd really like to release v1.0 of the client before the stable branch of openstack/glance is cut | 20:44 |
markwash | and might finally have some time to spend there! :-) | 20:44 |
esheffield | sounds good to me! | 20:44 |
esheffield | I think we're really close | 20:44 |
iccha | it doesnt have v1.0 yet ! :O | 20:44 |
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markwash | iccha: well. . not quite what I meant :-) | 20:45 |
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markwash | so, nikhil brought up stringfreeze | 20:45 |
markwash | that's something I neglected to mention as part of the general FF | 20:45 |
markwash | we are not supposed to change any public-facing strings | 20:45 |
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markwash | lest we muck up translation efforts I believe | 20:46 |
markwash | any other FF related notes? or should we jump into open discussion? | 20:46 |
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markwash | #topic open-discussion | 20:47 |
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iccha | markwash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44801/ is this imp enough for FFE? | 20:48 |
ameade | +1 | 20:48 |
markwash | I like it | 20:48 |
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markwash | who's going to be at the summit? | 20:49 |
nikhil | looks like they are addressing those comments | 20:49 |
markwash | o/ | 20:49 |
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nikhil | -1 | 20:50 |
iccha | -1 | 20:50 |
iccha | i think zhi or flwang said they ll be there | 20:50 |
iccha | and flavio i guess | 20:50 |
zhiyan | iccha: :) | 20:50 |
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jbresnah | i will not be | 20:50 |
zhiyan | jbresnah: oh no | 20:50 |
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zhiyan | jbresnah: confirmed? | 20:50 |
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jbresnah | seems so | 20:50 |
markwash | sigh | 20:51 |
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zhiyan | markwash: btw, as you mentioned, i think we'd better give a priority to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1202098 , can you help set that? | 20:51 |
nikhil | isn't it nearer from hawaii | 20:51 |
nikhil | or my geagraphy is weak :( | 20:51 |
nikhil | need to spell right | 20:52 |
jbresnah | heh | 20:52 |
jbresnah | sort of near | 20:52 |
jbresnah | but still way too expensive to cover myself | 20:52 |
markwash | obviously we need the summit to be in hawaii sometime | 20:52 |
jbresnah | nod | 20:53 |
iccha | glance summit | 20:53 |
markwash | haha yes that one | 20:53 |
jbresnah | everyone wins with thta! | 20:53 |
nikhil | +1B*e^1B | 20:53 |
jbresnah | its in the middle of nowhere! | 20:53 |
iccha | so it makes it absolutely vital for us to be there | 20:53 |
jbresnah | and i am the only developer that lives here | 20:53 |
jbresnah | heh | 20:53 |
jbresnah | i looked into a meetup | 20:53 |
jbresnah | but i thought it would be lonely | 20:53 |
markwash | lol | 20:54 |
markwash | just jbresnah hanging out in a room | 20:54 |
jbresnah | nod | 20:54 |
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markwash | okay thanks everybody | 20:54 |
markwash | #endmeeting | 20:55 |
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