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| jcoufal | #startmeeting Tuskar | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 17 19:00:13 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jcoufal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Tuskar)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tuskar' | 19:00 |
| jcoufal | Hey everbyody | 19:00 |
| lsmola_ | hello | 19:00 |
| marios | hi | 19:00 |
| ifarkas | hi | 19:00 |
| jtomasek | hi | 19:00 |
| lblanchard | hi all | 19:00 |
| julim | hi | 19:00 |
| tzumainn | heya | 19:00 |
| jcoufal | Today I am going to substitute shadower, who couldn't make it, hopefully he gets better soon | 19:00 |
| pblaho | hi | 19:00 |
| jistr | hi :) | 19:01 |
| jcoufal | #topic Agenda | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Tuskar)" | 19:01 | |
| jcoufal | just very briefly | 19:01 |
| jcoufal | we are going to review previous actions | 19:01 |
| jcoufal | then we are going to discuss and vote for glossary | 19:01 |
| jcoufal | and in the end the will be some space for open discussion | 19:02 |
| jcoufal | #topic Review Actions | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Actions (Meeting topic: Tuskar)" | 19:02 | |
| jcoufal | Anybody who was given action last time, feel free to give some updates how it is going | 19:02 |
| jcoufal | From my side, I started etherpad with gathering name proposals, posted that to the mailing list. | 19:03 |
| marios | jcoufal: my action was to write up about how tuskar & OOO fit (or "how tuskar is different from OOO") - I got carried away with sprint start and didn't get to it. Can we put action item for next week and I will get onto it tomorrow, before other things take over again - my apologies | 19:03 |
| jcoufal | Lately there were no more updates on names so we are going to wrap it up today | 19:04 |
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| marios | (jcoufal etherpad @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/tuskar-naming ) | 19:04 |
| noslzzp | marios, what form was the write to take? | 19:04 |
| jcoufal | #action marios to move his stuff to this week (tuskar & OOO fit) | 19:04 |
| ifarkas | jcoufal, I am working on the production setup guide. I need to figure out a bunch of stuff. I am setting up tripleo + tuskar on my laptop | 19:04 |
| noslzzp | s/write/write up/ | 19:04 |
| marios | noslzzp: well, wasn't specified. I am guessing a paragraph or two to be used #somewhere | 19:04 |
| marios | noslzzp: (TBD) | 19:05 |
| pblaho | marios, noslzzp : project wiki? | 19:05 |
| noslzzp | marios: ok.. I'll send you something I'm working on that may help. | 19:05 |
| marios | noslzzp: thats great thanks | 19:05 |
| marios | jcoufal: thanks mate | 19:06 |
| jcoufal | np at all | 19:06 |
| jcoufal | any other updates? | 19:06 |
| jcoufal | looking at the list, it looks that shadower asigned most of the actions to himself :) | 19:07 |
| lsmola_ | :-) | 19:07 |
| jcoufal | will see if sends any e-mail with updates how it is going | 19:07 |
| marios | (action items from last week @ http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tuskar/2013/tuskar.2013-09-10-19.00.html ) | 19:07 |
| jcoufal | next topic then | 19:08 |
| jcoufal | #topic Glossary | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glossary (Meeting topic: Tuskar)" | 19:08 | |
| jcoufal | so based on the etherpad document, we are going to vote actually on names and see what we can get from there | 19:08 |
| jcoufal | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/tuskar-naming | 19:08 |
| jcoufal | the voting will happen that I explain quickly what we are talking about, start voting and then each memebr with preference votes like '#vote option' | 19:09 |
| jcoufal | in the end we are going to do a summary and end voting for that one question | 19:09 |
| jcoufal | if interested: http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html#meetbot (commands) | 19:09 |
| jcoufal | so firstly we have Resource Classes | 19:10 |
| jcoufal | it looks like w don't want to change the name, but in order to keep it in record, I'll oficial make the voting happen | 19:10 |
| jcoufal | we can practice here :) | 19:10 |
| noslzzp | sure.. :) | 19:10 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Resource Classes'? Resource Classes, Other | 19:10 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Resource Classes'? Valid vote options are Resource, Classes, Other. | 19:10 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:10 |
| jcoufal | #vote Resource Classes | 19:10 |
| openstack | jcoufal: Resource Classes is not a valid option. Valid options are Resource, Classes, Other. | 19:10 |
| jcoufal | oh gosh you see, here is the challenge | 19:11 |
| noslzzp | Res_Class maybe? | 19:11 |
| lblanchard | heh | 19:11 |
| marios | jcoufal: might want to start it again | 19:11 |
| jcoufal | yes | 19:11 |
| jcoufal | #endvoting | 19:11 |
| noslzzp | that was quick. | 19:11 |
| lblanchard | lol | 19:11 |
| marios | jcoufal: good idea to practice | 19:11 |
| jistr | jcoufal: endvote | 19:11 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:11 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Resource Classes'?" Results are | 19:11 |
| jcoufal | yes | 19:12 |
| jcoufal | so | 19:12 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Resource Classes'? Resource_Classes, Other | 19:12 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Resource Classes'? Valid vote options are Resource_Classes, Other. | 19:12 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:12 |
| jcoufal | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| marios | #vote Resource_classes | 19:12 |
| jomara | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| jistr | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| noslzzp | #vote Classes_Resource | 19:12 |
| ifarkas | #vote Resource_classes | 19:12 |
| pblaho | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| openstack | noslzzp: Classes_Resource is not a valid option. Valid options are Resource_Classes, Other. | 19:12 |
| lblanchard | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| julim | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| jtomasek | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| lsmola_ | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| noslzzp | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| tzumainn | #vote Resource_Classes | 19:12 |
| jcoufal | any more? | 19:12 |
| marios | noslzzp: testing the edge cases there? :) | 19:12 |
| jcoufal | #showvote | 19:12 |
| openstack | Resource_Classes (12): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, tzumainn, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, jomara, noslzzp, jistr, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:12 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:12 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Resource Classes'?" Results are | 19:12 |
| noslzzp | marios: indeed. :) | 19:12 |
| openstack | Resource_Classes (12): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, tzumainn, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, jomara, noslzzp, jistr, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:13 |
| pblaho | hmm... underscore is just for voting bot? | 19:13 |
| jcoufal | pblaho: yes | 19:13 |
| jcoufal | space is considered like another option | 19:13 |
| pblaho | jcoufal: thanks | 19:13 |
| marios | jcoufal: (you could have set 'ResourceClasses' | 19:13 |
| jcoufal | which is better for you guys? | 19:13 |
| noslzzp | doesn't matter. | 19:13 |
| jcoufal | cammel case or _? | 19:13 |
| jistr | doesn't matter at all | 19:13 |
| jcoufal | fine | 19:13 |
| jcoufal | now we have class types | 19:14 |
| noslzzp | apparently the voting is case InSensitiVE anyway.. | 19:14 |
| jcoufal | ethepred line 9 | 19:14 |
| ifarkas | we should vote on the camel case vs _ thing :-) | 19:14 |
| jistr | nooo | 19:14 |
| marios | boo | 19:14 |
| lblanchard | hahaha | 19:14 |
| noslzzp | rock the vote! | 19:14 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name class which contains main management node (undercloud) and nodes with overcloud services (except resource services)? Control_Class, Core_Service_Class, Service_Class, Controller_Class, Complement_Class, Core_Class, Other | 19:14 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name class which contains main management node (undercloud) and nodes with overcloud services (except resource services)? Valid vote options are Control_Class, Core_Service_Class, Service_Class, Controller_Class, Complement_Class, Core_Class, Other. | 19:14 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:14 |
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| noslzzp | #vote controller_class | 19:15 |
| jomara | #vote Controller_Class | 19:15 |
| pblaho | #vote Controller_Class | 19:15 |
| lblanchard | #vote Controller_Class | 19:15 |
| jtomasek | #vote Controller_Class | 19:15 |
| julim | #vote Controller_Class | 19:15 |
| lsmola_ | #vote Control_Class | 19:15 |
| jistr | #vote controller_class | 19:15 |
| * noslzzp is a trend setting.. | 19:15 | |
| jcoufal | #vote controller_class | 19:15 |
| marios | #vote Control_Class | 19:15 |
| ifarkas | #vote Controller_Class | 19:15 |
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| jomara | noslzzp: public ballot, we have to vote with you or matty dubs will punch us | 19:16 |
| jcoufal | anybody else? | 19:16 |
| jistr | noslzzp: no way, it was me who suggested that name :P | 19:16 |
| * jistr takes back the credit :D | 19:16 | |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:16 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name class which contains main management node (undercloud) and nodes with overcloud services (except resource services)?" Results are | 19:16 |
| openstack | Controller_Class (9): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, jtomasek, lblanchard, jomara, noslzzp, jistr, jcoufal | 19:16 |
| openstack | Control_Class (2): marios, lsmola_ | 19:16 |
| jcoufal | just to make it official we have compute end storage classes, so these might be very quick | 19:16 |
| jcoufal | *and | 19:17 |
| lblanchard | so now it's a race to see who can get in their vote first! | 19:17 |
| noslzzp | "fun with meetbot".. | 19:17 |
| pblaho | (imagine politicians voting through IRC) | 19:17 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Compute Class'? Compute_Class, Compute_Resource_Class, Other | 19:17 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Compute Class'? Valid vote options are Compute_Class, Compute_Resource_Class, Other. | 19:17 |
| noslzzp | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:17 |
| lsmola_ | hehe | 19:17 |
| noslzzp | doh! | 19:17 |
| noslzzp | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| marios | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| matty_dubs | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| julim | #vote Compute_Class | 19:17 |
| jomara | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| jcoufal | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| tzumainn | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| lblanchard | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| pblaho | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| jistr | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| lsmola_ | #vote compute_class | 19:17 |
| ifarkas | #vote Compute_Class | 19:17 |
| matty_dubs | Is Gabelstaplerfahrer not on the table? | 19:17 |
| lblanchard | matty_dubs: hahaha | 19:17 |
| noslzzp | lol | 19:18 |
| pblaho | matty_dubs: other? | 19:18 |
| marios | #vote Gabelstaplerfahrer | 19:18 |
| jtomasek | #vote Compute_Class | 19:18 |
| jcoufal | sorry matt | 19:18 |
| openstack | marios: Gabelstaplerfahrer is not a valid option. Valid options are Compute_Class, Compute_Resource_Class, Other. | 19:18 |
| ifarkas | #vote Gabelstaplerfahrer | 19:18 |
| lblanchard | matty_dubs: you should have added it to the etherpad :) | 19:18 |
| openstack | ifarkas: Gabelstaplerfahrer is not a valid option. Valid options are Compute_Class, Compute_Resource_Class, Other. | 19:18 |
| matty_dubs | :'( | 19:18 |
| jcoufal | haha | 19:18 |
| noslzzp | lol | 19:18 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:18 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Compute Class'?" Results are | 19:18 |
| openstack | Compute_Class (13): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, jomara, noslzzp, matty_dubs, tzumainn, lsmola_, jcoufal, jistr | 19:18 |
| noslzzp | write ins not allowed.. | 19:18 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Object Storage Class'? Object_Storage_Class, Object_Storage_Resource_Class, Other | 19:18 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Object Storage Class'? Valid vote options are Object_Storage_Class, Object_Storage_Resource_Class, Other. | 19:18 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:18 |
| marios | #vote Object_Storage_Class | 19:18 |
| jistr | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| pblaho | #vote Object_Storage_Class | 19:18 |
| noslzzp | #vote object_storage | 19:18 |
| openstack | noslzzp: object_storage is not a valid option. Valid options are Object_Storage_Class, Object_Storage_Resource_Class, Other. | 19:18 |
| matty_dubs | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| julim | #vote Object_Storage_Class | 19:18 |
| jtomasek | #vote Object_Storage_Class | 19:18 |
| ifarkas | #vote Object_Storage_Class | 19:18 |
| jcoufal | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| tzumainn | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| noslzzp | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| lblanchard | #vote Object_Storage_Class | 19:18 |
| jomara | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| lsmola_ | #vote object_storage_class | 19:18 |
| noslzzp | lemmings!! | 19:19 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:19 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Object Storage Class'?" Results are | 19:19 |
| openstack | Object_Storage_Class (13): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, tzumainn, jomara, noslzzp, matty_dubs, jistr, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:19 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Block Storage Class'? Block_Storage_Class, Block_Storage_Resource_Class, Other | 19:19 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Block Storage Class'? Valid vote options are Block_Storage_Class, Block_Storage_Resource_Class, Other. | 19:19 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:19 |
| marios | #vote Block_Storage_Class | 19:19 |
| noslzzp | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| jcoufal | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| lblanchard | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| jistr | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| matty_dubs | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| jtomasek | #vote Block_Storage_Class | 19:19 |
| tzumainn | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| ifarkas | #vote Block_Storage_Class | 19:19 |
| julim | #vote Block_storage_Class | 19:19 |
| lsmola_ | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| pblaho | #vote block_storage_class | 19:19 |
| * matty_dubs tempted to go against grain just so votes aren't unanimous | 19:19 | |
| noslzzp | won't work Matty.. i tried. | 19:19 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:20 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Block Storage Class'?" Results are | 19:20 |
| openstack | Block_Storage_Class (12): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, tzumainn, noslzzp, matty_dubs, jistr, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:20 |
| jcoufal | so these were pretty fast | 19:20 |
| jcoufal | we are getting into troubles slowly | 19:20 |
| jcoufal | flavors | 19:20 |
| pblaho | and pretty unisono | 19:20 |
| jcoufal | all the rationals are given in the etherpad from line 43 | 19:20 |
| jomara | matty_dubs: i stood out by abstaining! | 19:20 |
| jcoufal | let's the fight begin | 19:20 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Flavors' in Tuskar? Flavors, Flavor_Templates, Flavor_Definitions, Instance_Types, Instance_Configurations, Configuration_Templates, Configuration_Profiles, Other | 19:21 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Flavors' in Tuskar? Valid vote options are Flavors, Flavor_Templates, Flavor_Definitions, Instance_Types, Instance_Configurations, Configuration_Templates, Configuration_Profiles, Other. | 19:21 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:21 |
| jistr | #vote flavors | 19:21 |
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| jtomasek | #vote flavors | 19:21 |
| pblaho | #vote Flavor_Definitions | 19:21 |
| ifarkas | #vote Flavor_Templates | 19:21 |
| jcoufal | #vote flavor_definitions | 19:21 |
| matty_dubs | #vote flavor_definitions | 19:21 |
| marios | #vote flavors | 19:21 |
| matty_dubs | I think the problem with flavors is that there's ALREADY a flavors concept in OpenStack | 19:21 |
| pblaho | this will be interesting.... | 19:21 |
| marios | matty_dubs: but these are one and the same | 19:21 |
| lsmola_ | #vote flavors | 19:21 |
| matty_dubs | And ours aren't identical to them | 19:21 |
| tzumainn | #vote flavors | 19:21 |
| noslzzp | #vote instance_family | 19:21 |
| openstack | noslzzp: instance_family is not a valid option. Valid options are Flavors, Flavor_Templates, Flavor_Definitions, Instance_Types, Instance_Configurations, Configuration_Templates, Configuration_Profiles, Other. | 19:21 |
| jistr | matty_dubs: yeah but we *don't* introduce a new concept | 19:21 |
| noslzzp | :) | 19:21 |
| marios | matty_dubs: yes they are | 19:21 |
| julim | #vote Other | 19:21 |
| jomara | #vote flavors | 19:21 |
| noslzzp | #vote Other | 19:21 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, they should be identicl | 19:22 |
| pblaho | marios: yeah... and we have a link between them and our flavors | 19:22 |
| lblanchard | #vote Other | 19:22 |
| jcoufal | anybody else any preference? | 19:22 |
| * ifarkas wondering what are the Other suggestions? | 19:22 | |
| pblaho | marios: sorry.. it was for matty_dubs ... you know, "ma TAB" | 19:22 |
| marios | pblaho: ;) | 19:22 |
| jcoufal | ifarkas: none, we need to work harder if that's the case :) | 19:22 |
| jcoufal | #showvote | 19:22 |
| openstack | Flavors (6): marios, jtomasek, tzumainn, jomara, lsmola_, jistr | 19:22 |
| openstack | Other (3): julim, noslzzp, lblanchard | 19:22 |
| openstack | Flavor_Templates (1): ifarkas | 19:22 |
| openstack | Flavor_Definitions (3): matty_dubs, jcoufal, pblaho | 19:22 |
| matty_dubs | So if I create a Flavor in Nova | 19:23 |
| matty_dubs | Does it show up in our app as a Flavor? | 19:23 |
| jcoufal | it looks for flavors then | 19:23 |
| matty_dubs | And vice versa? | 19:23 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, it should | 19:23 |
| jcoufal | does anybody want to change vote or rationalize his voting? | 19:23 |
| marios | matty_dubs: by the same reasoning, if you launch an instance in openstack nova, independently of tuskar, it may not show up in the dashboard (at least not presently) | 19:23 |
| ifarkas | #vote Flavor_Definitions | 19:23 |
| ifarkas | I don't want to be alone... | 19:24 |
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| jcoufal | any suggestions from people voting for others? | 19:24 |
| lblanchard | Instance Profile? | 19:24 |
| pblaho | in the future we should focus more on campaing before voting :-) | 19:24 |
| jistr | instance pool family frost flavor? | 19:24 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, otherwise it doesn`t have 1to1 mapping | 19:24 |
| julim | In the vBlock world, it's typically called a Service Profile | 19:25 |
| jcoufal | ok, let's move forward | 19:25 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:25 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Flavors' in Tuskar?" Results are | 19:25 |
| openstack | Flavors (6): marios, jtomasek, tzumainn, jomara, lsmola_, jistr | 19:25 |
| openstack | Other (3): julim, noslzzp, lblanchard | 19:25 |
| lsmola_ | jistr, lol | 19:25 |
| openstack | Flavor_Definitions (4): ifarkas, matty_dubs, jcoufal, pblaho | 19:25 |
| jcoufal | quick one about nodes in general | 19:25 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name general physical machines, which are part of the racks? Nodes, Hosts, Other | 19:25 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name general physical machines, which are part of the racks? Valid vote options are Nodes, Hosts, Other. | 19:25 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:25 |
| jcoufal | #vote nodes | 19:25 |
| jomara | #vote hosts | 19:25 |
| ifarkas | #vote Nodes | 19:26 |
| pblaho | #vote nodes | 19:26 |
| matty_dubs | #vote nodes | 19:26 |
| jtomasek | #vote Nodes | 19:26 |
| jistr | #vote nodes | 19:26 |
| noslzzp | #vote nodes | 19:26 |
| marios | #vote hosts | 19:26 |
| lblanchard | #vote Nodes | 19:26 |
| julim | #vote Nodes | 19:26 |
| jomara | rage against the machine | 19:26 |
| tzumainn | #vote nodes | 19:26 |
| jomara | rage against the (host) machine | 19:26 |
| matty_dubs | FWIW I liked hosts too, but I don't see a reason to change | 19:26 |
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| jcoufal | anybody else? | 19:26 |
| marios | seems to be that everywhere else in OS they are called 'hosts' - but it would definitely be easier to keep nodes right now | 19:26 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, though to work correctly, it should be set only from undercloud, so there were a thought to forbid to set them in overcloud :-) | 19:26 |
| lsmola_ | #vote nodes | 19:26 |
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| jcoufal | 3, 2, 1 | 19:26 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:27 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name general physical machines, which are part of the racks?" Results are | 19:27 |
| openstack | Nodes (11): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, jtomasek, lblanchard, tzumainn, noslzzp, matty_dubs, jistr, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:27 |
| openstack | Hosts (2): marios, jomara | 19:27 |
| jcoufal | And now we are getting to racks | 19:27 |
| noslzzp | weeee! | 19:27 |
| ifarkas | #vote Racks | 19:27 |
| tzumainn | jcoufal, should we allow some campaigning before the actual vote? | 19:27 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name 'Rack' in general (no specific purpose of the rack)? Rack, Chassis, Logical_Rack, Enclosure, Other | 19:27 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name 'Rack' in general (no specific purpose of the rack)? Valid vote options are Rack, Chassis, Logical_Rack, Enclosure, Other. | 19:27 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:27 |
| pblaho | #vote racks | 19:27 |
| openstack | pblaho: racks is not a valid option. Valid options are Rack, Chassis, Logical_Rack, Enclosure, Other. | 19:27 |
| marios | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| jtomasek | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| jcoufal | you can do the campaign druing voting | 19:27 |
| pblaho | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| jcoufal | tzumainn: ^ | 19:27 |
| ifarkas | #vote Rack | 19:27 |
| jomara | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| matty_dubs | Chassis doesn't mean the same thing in racks, though. A server chassis is the enclosure on one server. | 19:27 |
| lblanchard | #vote Rack | 19:27 |
| matty_dubs | #vote Rack | 19:27 |
| jcoufal | people can change their votes, last one is counted | 19:27 |
| julim | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| tzumainn | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| jistr | #vote rack | 19:27 |
| pblaho | jcoufal: ok.... be conservative, stay with Rack :-) | 19:28 |
| matty_dubs | At least in normal terminology | 19:28 |
| noslzzp | #vote rack | 19:28 |
| jcoufal | #vote rack | 19:28 |
| lsmola_ | #vote other | 19:28 |
| jcoufal | anybody else? | 19:28 |
| matty_dubs | #playsong Tyga - Rack City | 19:28 |
| jcoufal | not working matty_dubs | 19:28 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:28 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name 'Rack' in general (no specific purpose of the rack)?" Results are | 19:29 |
| openstack | Other (1): lsmola_ | 19:29 |
| openstack | Rack (12): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, jomara, noslzzp, matty_dubs, tzumainn, jcoufal, jistr | 19:29 |
| pblaho | "Only with Rack we can have working Tuskar for everyone" | 19:29 |
| lblanchard | matty_dubs: why is that song so catchy? | 19:29 |
| noslzzp | now on to the good stuff.. | 19:29 |
| jcoufal | one for make it official | 19:29 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name rack which is part of Controller Class? Controller_Rack, Other | 19:29 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name rack which is part of Controller Class? Valid vote options are Controller_Rack, Other. | 19:29 |
| matty_dubs | lblanchard: I don't get it. I assume it's not actually about data centers. | 19:29 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:29 |
| jcoufal | #vote controller_rack | 19:29 |
| ifarkas | #vote Controller_rack | 19:29 |
| tzumainn | #vote controller_rack | 19:29 |
| jistr | #vote controller_rack | 19:29 |
| jomara | #vote controller_rack | 19:29 |
| noslzzp | #vote controller_rack | 19:29 |
| lblanchard | matty_dubs: lol…yes, I think "Chassis City" would be different | 19:29 |
| pblaho | #vote controller_rack | 19:30 |
| lblanchard | #vote controller_rack | 19:30 |
| jtomasek | #vote controller_rack | 19:30 |
| julim | #vote Controller_Rack | 19:30 |
| * matty_dubs abstains | 19:30 | |
| marios | i dont get this | 19:30 |
| pblaho | I think this will be not used in code or api.... but in discussions and probably docs... | 19:30 |
| lsmola_ | #vote controller_rack | 19:30 |
| marios | #vote other | 19:30 |
| jistr | pblaho: yeah i think so too | 19:30 |
| lblanchard | pblaho: agreed | 19:30 |
| lsmola_ | #vote other | 19:30 |
| jcoufal | pbaexactly | 19:31 |
| jcoufal | no code, more discussion wise | 19:31 |
| lsmola_ | I dont like it anynmore :-) | 19:31 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:31 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name rack which is part of Controller Class?" Results are | 19:31 |
| openstack | Controller_Rack (10): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, jtomasek, lblanchard, jomara, noslzzp, tzumainn, jcoufal, jistr | 19:31 |
| openstack | Other (2): marios, lsmola_ | 19:31 |
| jcoufal | now we are going to nodes with specific purposes | 19:31 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name main management node, which is containing undercloud and is part of controller rack? Undercloud_Management_Node, Primary_Management_Node, Core_Management_Node, Other | 19:31 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name main management node, which is containing undercloud and is part of controller rack? Valid vote options are Undercloud_Management_Node, Primary_Management_Node, Core_Management_Node, Other. | 19:31 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:31 |
| noslzzp | The Diebold code embedded in my IRC client changed my vote! | 19:32 |
| ifarkas | #vote Undercloud_Management_Node, | 19:32 |
| openstack | ifarkas: Undercloud_Management_Node, is not a valid option. Valid options are Undercloud_Management_Node, Primary_Management_Node, Core_Management_Node, Other. | 19:32 |
| matty_dubs | noslzzp: LOL | 19:32 |
| pblaho | #vote undercloud_management_node | 19:32 |
| marios | #vote undercloud_management_node | 19:32 |
| ifarkas | #vote Undercloud_Management_Node | 19:32 |
| matty_dubs | #vote Undercloud_Management_Node | 19:32 |
| lsmola_ | #vote undercloud_management_node | 19:32 |
| julim | #vote Primary_Management_Node | 19:32 |
| jtomasek | #vote Undercloud_Management_Node | 19:32 |
| * matty_dubs votes for least-bad | 19:32 | |
| noslzzp | #vote other | 19:32 |
| lblanchard | #vote Primary_Management_Node | 19:32 |
| jcoufal | #vote primary_management_node | 19:32 |
| noslzzp | #vote primary_management_node | 19:32 |
| pblaho | wow... we are losing buzzwords :-) | 19:33 |
| jcoufal | #showvote | 19:33 |
| openstack | Primary_Management_Node (4): noslzzp, julim, lblanchard, jcoufal | 19:33 |
| openstack | Undercloud_Management_Node (6): ifarkas, pblaho, marios, jtomasek, matty_dubs, lsmola_ | 19:33 |
| jistr | #vote primary_management_node | 19:33 |
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| jtomasek | #vote primary_management_node | 19:33 |
| noslzzp | Undercloud is too technical.. | 19:33 |
| jcoufal | anybody wants to change mind? or do campaign? | 19:33 |
| jistr | nice | 19:33 |
| jistr | jtomasek: tie vote! | 19:33 |
| noslzzp | Change your vote please.. :) | 19:33 |
| pblaho | #showvote | 19:33 |
| openstack | Primary_Management_Node (6): julim, jtomasek, lblanchard, noslzzp, jistr, jcoufal | 19:33 |
| openstack | Undercloud_Management_Node (5): ifarkas, pblaho, marios, matty_dubs, lsmola_ | 19:33 |
| lblanchard | Undercloud is confusingggg :( | 19:33 |
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| matty_dubs | We already expose 'undercloud' to user though | 19:33 |
| noslzzp | Indeed! | 19:33 |
| julim | No end user will get undercloud vs. overcloud | 19:33 |
| matty_dubs | It has a clear meaning, unlike 'primary' | 19:33 |
| noslzzp | Follow slzzp and Liz on this one.. | 19:33 |
| lblanchard | matty_dubs: we do? | 19:34 |
| noslzzp | less typing! | 19:34 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, agreed | 19:34 |
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| pblaho | maybe hw management node> | 19:34 |
| pblaho | ? | 19:34 |
| jtomasek | this is tough decision | 19:34 |
| matty_dubs | lblanchard: Oh, maybe not UX wise. But 'primary' means that there's a secondary/backup | 19:34 |
| lsmola_ | do we have secondary management node? | 19:34 |
| matty_dubs | Err, means _to me_ | 19:34 |
| noslzzp | This is a control plane problem.. so primary management node makes sense in that context. | 19:34 |
| pblaho | matty_dubs: +1 | 19:34 |
| jistr | matty_dubs: hmm yeah that's a good point | 19:34 |
| matty_dubs | "This is my primary management node, and this is my hot spare, the secondary management node" | 19:34 |
| lblanchard | matty_dubs: but if people use cloud to butt it will be "Underbutt" :( | 19:34 |
| noslzzp | the under/over stuff is only meaningful for g33ks. | 19:34 |
| matty_dubs | lblanchard: LOL, best argument ever | 19:35 |
| jcoufal | noslzzp: that's true | 19:35 |
| jcoufal | so last chance to change your minds | 19:35 |
| lsmola_ | #vote UnderbuttManagementNode | 19:35 |
| openstack | lsmola_: UnderbuttManagementNode is not a valid option. Valid options are Undercloud_Management_Node, Primary_Management_Node, Core_Management_Node, Other. | 19:35 |
| marios | i'd probably go with core over primary though | 19:35 |
| pblaho | noslzzp: yeah.. but I don't see how primary tell me that it would be managing what? | 19:35 |
| jomara | noslzzp: how many nongeeks will be in our docs | 19:35 |
| ifarkas | noslzzp, or anyone who is familiar with tripleo glossary | 19:35 |
| jcoufal | ok, ending voting | 19:35 |
| jcoufal | 3, 2, 1 | 19:35 |
| noslzzp | everyone who deploys OpenStack.. | 19:35 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:36 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name main management node, which is containing undercloud and is part of controller rack?" Results are | 19:36 |
| openstack | Primary_Management_Node (6): julim, jtomasek, lblanchard, noslzzp, jistr, jcoufal | 19:36 |
| openstack | Undercloud_Management_Node (5): ifarkas, pblaho, marios, matty_dubs, lsmola_ | 19:36 |
| jomara | they arent geeks>? | 19:36 |
| matty_dubs | Noooo | 19:36 |
| noslzzp | The are *customers*. :) | 19:36 |
| jcoufal | interesting one | 19:36 |
| noslzzp | s/The/They/ | 19:36 |
| matty_dubs | noslzzp: Not upstream :-P | 19:36 |
| * jistr wonders if this is a good candidate for a revote next week :D | 19:36 | |
| marios | jistr: lol | 19:36 |
| jcoufal | I think so | 19:36 |
| noslzzp | No, the hanging chads have been counted. It's over. | 19:36 |
| jomara | i would put this up for revote | 19:36 |
| jcoufal | each very close voting might get one more chance | 19:37 |
| noslzzp | Accept your fate. | 19:37 |
| marios | jomara: SECOND! | 19:37 |
| jomara | primary doesnt really make sense, but if nobody knows what an 'undercloud' is | 19:37 |
| jomara | then that doesnt make sense either | 19:37 |
| pblaho | jomara: + | 19:37 |
| noslzzp | Maybe we need some more options? | 19:37 |
| jcoufal | #action revote Undercloud Management Node | 19:37 |
| jomara | yeah | 19:37 |
| marios | lets wait until noslzzp is pto and revote then | 19:37 |
| noslzzp | does just "management node" work? | 19:37 |
| jomara | haha | 19:37 |
| jistr | jcoufal: +1 thanks | 19:37 |
| jcoufal | feel free to update etherpad until next week | 19:37 |
| noslzzp | marios: lol | 19:37 |
| jomara | Club Mate Management Node | 19:37 |
| matty_dubs | Well let's brainstorm some better options offline and revote at the next meeting? | 19:37 |
| ifarkas | tertiary management node? | 19:38 |
| noslzzp | oh dear. | 19:38 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name all other nodes which are part of the controller rack? Service_Nodes, Controller_Nodes, Nodes, Other | 19:38 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name all other nodes which are part of the controller rack? Valid vote options are Service_Nodes, Controller_Nodes, Nodes, Other. | 19:38 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:38 |
| lblanchard | Management Management Node? :) | 19:38 |
| lsmola_ | hehe | 19:38 |
| jcoufal | this one is about talking in discussions mostly | 19:38 |
| marios | #vote controller_nodes | 19:38 |
| lsmola_ | Meta management node | 19:38 |
| lblanchard | #vote Controller_Nodes | 19:38 |
| noslzzp | The "Management Node that says Bad Mother.. r On It" | 19:38 |
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| jtomasek | #vote controller_nodes | 19:38 |
| jcoufal | I don't think it will appear in the code | 19:38 |
| jistr | #vote controller_nodes | 19:38 |
| matty_dubs | Didn't we already have Controller Nodes somewhere else? | 19:38 |
| marios | jcoufal: right, i was just about to ask for clarification - this is just how 'we talk about them' right? | 19:38 |
| pblaho | #vote controller_nodes | 19:38 |
| jcoufal | #vote Controller_Nodes | 19:38 |
| pblaho | marios: we have controller class | 19:38 |
| tzumainn | #vote controller_nodes | 19:39 |
| lblanchard | noslzzp: BAMF Management Node!!! | 19:39 |
| jcoufal | marios: yeah | 19:39 |
| jistr | marios: and controller rack :) | 19:39 |
| ifarkas | #vote Controller_Nodes | 19:39 |
| pblaho | marios: or racks? | 19:39 |
| jistr | pblaho: both :) | 19:39 |
| julim | #vote Other | 19:39 |
| lsmola_ | #vote controller_nodes | 19:39 |
| jomara | #vote controller_nodes | 19:39 |
| noslzzp | #vote controller_nodes | 19:39 |
| lsmola_ | #vote node | 19:39 |
| jcoufal | more? | 19:39 |
| openstack | lsmola_: node is not a valid option. Valid options are Service_Nodes, Controller_Nodes, Nodes, Other. | 19:39 |
| lsmola_ | #vote nodes | 19:39 |
| marios | pblaho: yeah the controller rack i didn't understand either ... but the controller class.. we already talk about that.. like the "compute class" or the "storage class " etc etc. so i think its the same. just for reference, so everyone agrees what we are talking about | 19:40 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:40 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name all other nodes which are part of the controller rack?" Results are | 19:40 |
| openstack | Nodes (1): lsmola_ | 19:40 |
| jcoufal | marios: yes | 19:40 |
| openstack | Other (1): julim | 19:40 |
| openstack | Controller_Nodes (9): pblaho, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, tzumainn, jomara, noslzzp, jistr, jcoufal | 19:40 |
| jcoufal | smae think mainly for discussions are other racks | 19:40 |
| pblaho | marios: yeah... controller node is a shortcut for node in controller class | 19:40 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name rack which is providing compute or storage resources? Resource_Rack, Other | 19:40 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name rack which is providing compute or storage resources? Valid vote options are Resource_Rack, Other. | 19:40 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:40 |
| marios | pblaho: right, thats what i understood | 19:40 |
| marios | pblaho: so we have very clear way of discussing the various nodes/racks/classes | 19:41 |
| matty_dubs | #vote Other | 19:41 |
| noslzzp | #vote resource_rack | 19:41 |
| marios | #Resource_Rack | 19:41 |
| jistr | #vote resource_rack | 19:41 |
| marios | err | 19:41 |
| lblanchard | hrmmm | 19:41 |
| matty_dubs | For non-technical reasons, I really hate 'Resource Rack' | 19:41 |
| julim | #vote Resource_Rack | 19:41 |
| marios | #vote Resource_Rack | 19:41 |
| pblaho | compute or storage means non controller? | 19:41 |
| ifarkas | #vote Other | 19:41 |
| jcoufal | pblaho: yes | 19:41 |
| lsmola_ | #vote Other | 19:41 |
| jcoufal | #vote other | 19:41 |
| lblanchard | why not split this between Compute_Rack and Object_Storage_Rack | 19:41 |
| marios | matty_dubs: i guess the rational is 'resource' vs 'service' | 19:41 |
| jistr | pblaho: yeah that's how i understand it | 19:41 |
| lblanchard | #vote other | 19:41 |
| pblaho | #vote other | 19:41 |
| matty_dubs | I don't actually have a better suggestion though :-\ | 19:41 |
| jomara | #vote resource_rack | 19:42 |
| jistr | lblanchard: yeah they will actually be split | 19:42 |
| jomara | i dont mind resource rack? | 19:42 |
| pblaho | I do not like Resource Rack... resource is used in classes... confucing | 19:42 |
| pblaho | *cnofusing | 19:42 |
| matty_dubs | pblaho++ | 19:42 |
| pblaho | **you know | 19:42 |
| noslzzp | suggestions? | 19:42 |
| lsmola_ | #vote for not having that many terms, it should be simpler | 19:42 |
| openstack | lsmola_: for not having that many terms, it should be simpler is not a valid option. Valid options are Resource_Rack, Other. | 19:42 |
| jistr | lblanchard: but we wanted a joint naming for all non-controller racks | 19:42 |
| jcoufal | lsmola_: we need to reference it somehow | 19:42 |
| lblanchard | jistr: ah... | 19:42 |
| jcoufal | the whole propblematic is complex | 19:42 |
| julim | what's wrong with calling it a non-controller rack? | 19:43 |
| jcoufal | #showvote | 19:43 |
| openstack | Other (6): ifarkas, pblaho, lblanchard, matty_dubs, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:43 |
| openstack | Resource_Rack (5): marios, julim, noslzzp, jistr, jomara | 19:43 |
| jistr | julim: yeah i'm thinking this right now too | 19:43 |
| lsmola_ | control class rack ? | 19:43 |
| jistr | #vote other | 19:43 |
| jistr | because | 19:43 |
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| noslzzp | push to next week? | 19:43 |
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| jcoufal | yes | 19:43 |
| marios | noslzzp: +1 | 19:43 |
| lsmola_ | resource class rack? | 19:43 |
| jcoufal | more suggestions and next week | 19:43 |
| matty_dubs | Given that 'Other' is winning, I might propose that we take this offline and brianstorm here | 19:43 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:43 |
| jomara | yeah +1 | 19:43 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name rack which is providing compute or storage resources?" Results are | 19:43 |
| openstack | Other (7): ifarkas, pblaho, lblanchard, matty_dubs, jistr, lsmola_, jcoufal | 19:43 |
| openstack | Resource_Rack (4): marios, julim, noslzzp, jomara | 19:43 |
| matty_dubs | Or maybe brainstorm. Brian might not like being stormed. | 19:43 |
| jcoufal | #action revote Resource Racks | 19:43 |
| tzumainn | I have to admit that this would be easier for me if there was a document showing how all these pieces fit together | 19:44 |
| matty_dubs | tzumainn++ | 19:44 |
| tzumainn | I kinda see it, but it's a bit fuzzy | 19:44 |
| matty_dubs | Martyn and I said we'd tackle that at the last meeting, but haven't (at least I haven't) made progress yet :( | 19:44 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name node which is a management node in 'resource' rack (but not the primary management node)? Leaf_Management_Node, Management_Node, Hypervisor, Host, Undercloud_Worker, Other | 19:44 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name node which is a management node in 'resource' rack (but not the primary management node)? Valid vote options are Leaf_Management_Node, Management_Node, Hypervisor, Host, Undercloud_Worker, Other. | 19:44 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:44 |
| pblaho | I would suggest to name racks after resource class it is in | 19:44 |
| matty_dubs | Please oh God not 'Hypervisor' | 19:45 |
| jomara | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| julim | #vote Leaf_Management_Node | 19:45 |
| jistr | matty_dubs: +1 | 19:45 |
| lblanchard | depends on what we decide for the primary management node... | 19:45 |
| matty_dubs | It's the only thing in the rack that ISN'T a hypervisor | 19:45 |
| marios | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| pblaho | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| jcoufal | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| jtomasek | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| lblanchard | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| matty_dubs | #vote Leaf_Management_Node | 19:45 |
| marios | matty_dubs: haha | 19:45 |
| jistr | #vote leaf_management_node | 19:45 |
| ifarkas | #vote management_node | 19:45 |
| ifarkas | #vote leaf_management_node | 19:45 |
| marios | matty_dubs: domain_0_node | 19:45 |
| jistr | management_node will be confusing | 19:45 |
| lsmola_ | #vote hypervisor | 19:45 |
| matty_dubs | #vote Management_Node | 19:45 |
| jtomasek | #vote leaf_management_node | 19:45 |
| noslzzp | shouldn't this vote be held in concurrence with the other management node vote? | 19:45 |
| jistr | i think people will refer to primary mgmt node that way too | 19:45 |
| pblaho | #vote leaf_management_node | 19:46 |
| jcoufal | #showvote | 19:46 |
| openstack | Hypervisor (1): lsmola_ | 19:46 |
| openstack | Leaf_Management_Node (5): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, jtomasek, jistr | 19:46 |
| matty_dubs | Oh, is this the opposite of the 'primary' thing? | 19:46 |
| openstack | Management_Node (5): marios, lblanchard, jomara, matty_dubs, jcoufal | 19:46 |
| * pblaho revoted | 19:46 | |
| matty_dubs | #slap lsmola_ | 19:46 |
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| tzumainn | lol | 19:46 |
| noslzzp | matty_dubs: related, yes.. | 19:46 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, ouch | 19:46 |
| matty_dubs | ;) | 19:46 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, freeedom | 19:46 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:46 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name node which is a management node in 'resource' rack (but not the primary management node)?" Results are | 19:46 |
| openstack | Hypervisor (1): lsmola_ | 19:46 |
| openstack | Leaf_Management_Node (5): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, jtomasek, jistr | 19:46 |
| openstack | Management_Node (5): marios, lblanchard, jomara, matty_dubs, jcoufal | 19:46 |
| pblaho | 5-5? | 19:46 |
| jistr | lol lsmola_ | 19:46 |
| jcoufal | #action revote Leaf Management Node | 19:46 |
| matty_dubs | Oh man, I was on the fence. I even changed my vote and could see myself rechanging | 19:46 |
| jcoufal | last 2 votes | 19:47 |
| lsmola_ | btw. leaf doesn have leaves | 19:47 |
| matty_dubs | Agree on the revote | 19:47 |
| marios | god please no more votes | 19:47 |
| marios | (today) | 19:47 |
| noslzzp | i'm dizzy. | 19:47 |
| matty_dubs | At a later date I mean | 19:47 |
| pblaho | yeah, but that node manages other leaves | 19:47 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name all other nodes which are part of 'resource' rack providing 'resource' service (compute or storage)? Resource_Nodes, Nodes, Instances, Other | 19:47 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name all other nodes which are part of 'resource' rack providing 'resource' service (compute or storage)? Valid vote options are Resource_Nodes, Nodes, Instances, Other. | 19:47 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:47 |
| matty_dubs | Trunk? | 19:47 |
| matty_dubs | Branch? | 19:47 |
| marios | matty_dubs: splinter | 19:47 |
| ifarkas | #vote Other | 19:47 |
| jistr | #vote other | 19:47 |
| pblaho | #vote other | 19:47 |
| jcoufal | I guess it depends on the 'resource' racks | 19:47 |
| matty_dubs | Wait, what is this question | 19:47 |
| * pblaho suggests leaf node | 19:48 | |
| julim | #vote Other | 19:48 |
| lsmola_ | #vote nodes | 19:48 |
| matty_dubs | Everything in a resource rack? | 19:48 |
| lblanchard | #vote Other | 19:48 |
| jcoufal | matty_dubs: yeah | 19:48 |
| * jistr suggests non-controller node -- silly but precise | 19:48 | |
| jcoufal | except management node | 19:48 |
| matty_dubs | #vote Nodes | 19:48 |
| pblaho | matty_dubs: except that management node | 19:48 |
| marios | #vote resource_nodes | 19:48 |
| jcoufal | #other | 19:48 |
| matty_dubs | Oh, yeah, good point | 19:48 |
| lsmola_ | #vote resources | 19:48 |
| openstack | lsmola_: resources is not a valid option. Valid options are Resource_Nodes, Nodes, Instances, Other. | 19:48 |
| * marios not sure how much of this will actually ever be used in conversation | 19:48 | |
| jcoufal | marios: we used this quite a lot | 19:48 |
| jcoufal | really | 19:48 |
| jtomasek | #vote resource_nodes | 19:48 |
| jistr | and it really depends how we name the "non-controller rack" or "resource rack" that we postponed | 19:49 |
| jcoufal | any other votes? | 19:49 |
| jcoufal | #showvote | 19:49 |
| openstack | Nodes (2): matty_dubs, lsmola_ | 19:49 |
| openstack | Other (5): julim, lblanchard, ifarkas, jistr, pblaho | 19:49 |
| openstack | Resource_Nodes (2): marios, jtomasek | 19:49 |
| lblanchard | jistr: agreed :) | 19:49 |
| matty_dubs | Another where 'other' wins | 19:49 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:49 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name all other nodes which are part of 'resource' rack providing 'resource' service (compute or storage)?" Results are | 19:49 |
| openstack | Nodes (2): matty_dubs, lsmola_ | 19:49 |
| openstack | Other (5): julim, lblanchard, ifarkas, jistr, pblaho | 19:49 |
| openstack | Resource_Nodes (2): marios, jtomasek | 19:49 |
| jcoufal | #action revote Resource Nodes | 19:49 |
| pblaho | is there anyone who will be making some kind of image - diagram - of all these racks/nodes? | 19:49 |
| noslzzp | I did. | 19:49 |
| jcoufal | last one is about images | 19:49 |
| jcoufal | which we are going to provison on nodes | 19:49 |
| matty_dubs | noslzzp: Can you re-send that to us? | 19:49 |
| matty_dubs | #vote lolcats | 19:50 |
| jcoufal | #startvote How should we name images which are going to be provisioned on nodes? Images, Overcloud_Images, Other | 19:50 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: How should we name images which are going to be provisioned on nodes? Valid vote options are Images, Overcloud_Images, Other. | 19:50 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:50 |
| julim | #vote Images | 19:50 |
| lsmola_ | #vote overcloud_images | 19:50 |
| tzumainn | #vote images | 19:50 |
| noslzzp | matty_dubs: sure.. | 19:50 |
| jcoufal | #vote images | 19:50 |
| lblanchard | #vote images | 19:50 |
| ifarkas | #vote Images | 19:50 |
| matty_dubs | #vote images | 19:50 |
| marios | #vote images | 19:50 |
| pblaho | #vote images | 19:50 |
| jtomasek | #vote images | 19:50 |
| jistr | so are we talking api/code now? | 19:50 |
| noslzzp | #vote images | 19:50 |
| jistr | or docs? | 19:50 |
| lsmola_ | Ilike overcloud and undercloud | 19:50 |
| jcoufal | any more? | 19:50 |
| jistr | jcooley: | 19:50 |
| jistr | jcoufal: me | 19:50 |
| jistr | sorry for noise | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | jistr: right | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | :) | 19:51 |
| jistr | can someone answer my question? | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | jistr: both | 19:51 |
| jomara | #vote images | 19:51 |
| jistr | ok | 19:51 |
| jistr | #vote overcloud_images | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | api as well as ui as well as discussions | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | #endvote | 19:51 |
| openstack | Voted on "How should we name images which are going to be provisioned on nodes?" Results are | 19:51 |
| openstack | Images (11): julim, ifarkas, pblaho, marios, jtomasek, lblanchard, tzumainn, noslzzp, matty_dubs, jomara, jcoufal | 19:51 |
| openstack | Overcloud_Images (2): jistr, lsmola_ | 19:51 |
| matty_dubs | The more we vote, the more I think I want the flexibility for us to change all of these down the road | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | ok this was voting | 19:51 |
| jcoufal | pretty crazy experience :) | 19:51 |
| matty_dubs | Since we are voting on terms without knowing too much about what we're doing | 19:52 |
| matty_dubs | (at least I am) | 19:52 |
| jcoufal | we have bunch of them to revote next week | 19:52 |
| jcoufal | and I will call it last chance | 19:52 |
| lsmola_ | matty_dubs, +10 | 19:52 |
| jistr | matty_dubs: yeah, at least some of them are pretty foggy | 19:52 |
| jcoufal | so feel free to update etherpad and think through them | 19:52 |
| tzumainn | jcoufal, can I suggest that we try and do the following for next week - create an architecture document using these terms | 19:52 |
| pblaho | matty_dubs: it will be on wiki, etherpad or somewhere... not in stone | 19:52 |
| tzumainn | so that we can see how they fit | 19:52 |
| tzumainn | and that might help people make up their minds? | 19:52 |
| marios | jcoufal: good job mate | 19:52 |
| jcoufal | tzumainn: if it helps, yes | 19:52 |
| matty_dubs | Well can we keep the door open to individual revotes later down the road if we all come to hate some of these names? | 19:52 |
| jcoufal | is there anybody who want to take care about arch doc? | 19:52 |
| pblaho | jcoufal, tzumainn : it will help a lot | 19:52 |
| matty_dubs | I'm happy to help. | 19:53 |
| lblanchard | jcoufal: nice job running the votes! I agree we should have time to think through this more and revote on certain ones next week. | 19:53 |
| tzumainn | matty_dubs, I think "down the road" is dangerous, because it means we're pushing off potential decisions for the future | 19:53 |
| tzumainn | I'm happy to help as well, I just don't think I'm qualified to do it : ) | 19:53 |
| matty_dubs | tzumainn: I'm saying we should run with these names, but not consider them completely immutable | 19:53 |
| noslzzp | draft diagrams sent.. | 19:53 |
| matty_dubs | noslzzp: Thanks! | 19:53 |
| pblaho | noslzzp: cool | 19:53 |
| jcoufal | #action create matty_dubs architecture doc using names and send it to the ML | 19:53 |
| marios | tzumainn: matty_dubs: especialy the ones that impact the code... if we are having to rehaul names of stuff in the code, i'd rather now than later (well, actually i'd rather not at all..) | 19:53 |
| jcoufal | #topic Open Discussion | 19:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Tuskar)" | 19:53 | |
| jistr | matty_dubs: i think so. It would be unpleasant after some GA release, but up to that point i hope we're quite free. | 19:54 |
| jcoufal | last 5 minutes for any other business | 19:54 |
| jistr | mexican wave! \o\ |o| /o/ | 19:54 |
| jcoufal | I would like to start etherpad with all possible states for racks/nodes | 19:54 |
| matty_dubs | Yeah. I just want to make sure we don't say "Well we voted on them" and never allow us to change anything ever. | 19:54 |
| marios | matty_dubs: feel free to ping me for that arch doc/diagram | 19:54 |
| jcoufal | fairly soon, so we can discuss there all combinations | 19:54 |
| matty_dubs | marios: Meaning ping you to ask questions, or ping you to get it? | 19:55 |
| * marios hides | 19:55 | |
| tzumainn | lol | 19:55 |
| * matty_dubs just dense | 19:55 | |
| jcoufal | #action jcoufal start etherpad wtih possible rack/node states | 19:55 |
| marios | matty_dubs: :) either | 19:55 |
| tzumainn | should we also put our tentative glossary on the wiki? it's easier for people to read in a cleaned up form, I think | 19:55 |
| matty_dubs | tzumainn++ | 19:55 |
| jcoufal | tzumainn: you wanna take stab on that? | 19:56 |
| * pblaho looks for "tantative" in dictionary | 19:56 | |
| noslzzp | thanks jcoufal.. | 19:56 |
| noslzzp | off to another meeting.. | 19:56 |
| marios | lets revote now | 19:56 |
| tzumainn | jcoufal, sure! | 19:56 |
| jcoufal | noslzzp: thanks have a great day | 19:56 |
| * noslzzp has left the room and you feel a great sense of loss.. | 19:56 | |
| jtomasek | just info: mrunge is working on blueprint that should simplify creating plugins for horizon, I'll discuss this more with him tomorrow... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/plugin-architecture | 19:56 |
| jcoufal | #action tzumainn create tentative glossary on wiki | 19:56 |
| jtomasek | tuskar is a nice way to test it | 19:57 |
| jcoufal | jtomasek: that's nice | 19:57 |
| jcoufal | any other business? | 19:57 |
| pblaho | jtomasek: wow... but I would suggest to complete tuskar-ui CI task.... | 19:57 |
| jcoufal | ok, thanks everybody for this meeting, it was very productive | 19:58 |
| jcoufal | #endmeeting | 19:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings (alternate)" | 19:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 17 19:58:15 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tuskar/2013/tuskar.2013-09-17-19.00.html | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tuskar/2013/tuskar.2013-09-17-19.00.txt | 19:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tuskar/2013/tuskar.2013-09-17-19.00.log.html | 19:58 |
| pblaho | jcoufal: thankyou | 19:58 |
| jcoufal | we did it :) | 19:58 |
| jistr | thanks! | 19:58 |
| matty_dubs | ++ | 19:58 |
| marios | jcoufal: nice one | 19:58 |
| tzumainn | jcoufal, thanks for running this! | 19:58 |
| jtomasek | thumbsup | 19:58 |
| marios | goodnight guys | 19:59 |
| jcoufal | the minutes look pretty organized :) | 19:59 |
| lsmola_ | thanks, good night | 19:59 |
| jistr | good night | 19:59 |
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| ifarkas | thanks and bye | 19:59 |
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| jcoufal | good night guys | 19:59 |
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