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| ativelkov | Hi folks | 15:00 |
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| rakhmerov | Hi there! | 15:00 |
| ativelkov | let's start Murano meeting | 15:00 |
| ativelkov | #startmeeting Murano | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 14 15:01:02 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ativelkov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 15:01 |
| tsufiev | hi! | 15:01 |
| IgorYozhikov | Hi | 15:01 |
| ativelkov | So, the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 15:01 |
| sergmelikyan | Hi! | 15:02 |
| ativelkov | Let's discuss the progress since the last week first | 15:02 |
| akuznetsova | Hello | 15:02 |
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| ativelkov | During the last meeting we planned to work on the two new features : Linux Agent and Metadata Repository | 15:03 |
| gokrokve | hi | 15:04 |
| katyafervent | Hi | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | ativelkov: could you please briefly tell about the progress on these things? | 15:04 |
| ativelkov | I can cover the status of Linux Agent. | 15:04 |
| gokrokve | Did we test a Linux Agent prototype? | 15:04 |
| ativelkov | Yes, it is tested and currently already checked in as part of release-0.3 | 15:05 |
| ativelkov | however, we've found some issues when integrated this feature | 15:05 |
| gokrokve | Where I can find documents with a description of new commands available in workflow syntax? | 15:05 |
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| ativelkov | it is not related to Linux Agent itslef, that is rather an issue with Heat, which affect the whole 0.3, both Windows and Linux Deployments | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | ativelkov: what is that issue? | 15:07 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, i believe no new commands added | 15:07 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, i believe no new commands was added | 15:08 |
| ativelkov | Quantum client, which is used by the Heat, gets incorrect credentials for the authentication | 15:08 |
| ativelkov | as the result, Heat creates networks in the wrong tenant | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | hah | 15:08 |
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| gokrokve | Tha is nice. Is there an issue filed for that? | 15:08 |
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| ativelkov | yes | 15:08 |
| gokrokve | That is nice. Is there an issue filed for that? | 15:08 |
| gokrokve | What is issue id? | 15:09 |
| gokrokve | I will try to ping heat team, or Stan can do this. | 15:09 |
| sergmelikyan | issue is fixed in Heat Havanna release, | 15:09 |
| ativelkov | Actually, that is a bug in Heat: sergmelikyan has found it | 15:09 |
| gokrokve | Can we backport it? | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | great | 15:09 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, ativelkov already done it and tested | 15:09 |
| ativelkov | yes, it affects only grizzly/stable, newer reviosion does not contain it anymore | 15:09 |
| gokrokve | Anyway we have to install Grizzly version with the current installation. | 15:10 |
| ativelkov | yes, I am now awaiting for an approval to push this fix to our fork of Heat which we will distribute with release-0.3 | 15:10 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, Maybe we need to publish backport to Stable/Grizzly | 15:10 |
| gokrokve | I think this is mandatory | 15:10 |
| gokrokve | Don't forget that we have murano installation on Oct 14th | 15:11 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, we don't know are Heat team missed this issue or it was intensional | 15:11 |
| ativelkov | Is there a procedure for commits to the older branches? | 15:11 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, same as for master | 15:11 |
| ativelkov | I think we need to discuss this with the Heat team | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 15:12 |
| ativelkov | #action Discuss backporting of https://review.openstack.org/25876 to Stable/grizzly with the Heat team. ativelkov to do it | 15:12 |
| ativelkov | For now, we will use our own custom fork of Heat for customer's deployment of 0.3 | 15:13 |
| ativelkov | That's all about Linux Agent for now. katyafervent, can you give us a quick status update on the development of Metadata Repository? | 15:14 |
| tsufiev | I am not katyafervent, but can say a couple of words too about Metadata Repository | 15:15 |
| ativelkov | sure, please do :) | 15:15 |
| katyafervent | I also can add some words) | 15:16 |
| tsufiev | I've rewritten murano-dashboard to first try fetching UI forms definitions from Metadata Repo endpoint (still in a proto state) + changed dashboard to load any changes in dynamic UI immediately, without restarting web server | 15:16 |
| katyafervent | Well api works bit needs improvement. Work on metadata client started | 15:17 |
| tsufiev | proto state = it will changed after katyafervent changes some things in client API implementation on Metadata Repo Server | 15:17 |
| tsufiev | *it will be changed | 15:18 |
| gokrokve | Did you added Murano panel? | 15:18 |
| tsufiev | currently I'm preparing wifeframes for Metadata Repository WebUI (not finished yet) | 15:19 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve, no, not yet | 15:19 |
| gokrokve | I understand that dynamic forms d not require to have a panel. | 15:19 |
| gokrokve | Ok. | 15:19 |
| ativelkov | Sounds great. We've scheduled an offline meeting for tomorrow to actualize the estimates on the tasks and verify which parts of the MR will make their way to the release 0.4 | 15:19 |
| katyafervent | Is it plan for a release 0.4? | 15:19 |
| katyafervent | I'm taking abt Murano panel | 15:20 |
| gokrokve | I don't think so. We can have it in 0.3 if you confirm that we can do this. | 15:20 |
| tsufiev | surely we can, it is quite easy | 15:21 |
| gokrokve | We need to have some consistency in Murano UI as soon as it starts to work in production. | 15:21 |
| ativelkov | rakhmerov is a release-owner for 0.4, so all questions on the scope of that release should be addressed to him | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | ativelkov, I believe, is just talking about the broader topic | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:21 |
| gokrokve | The nearest production installation is on Novemnber 1st | 15:21 |
| gokrokve | Oct 14th a rollout in QA for internal testing. | 15:22 |
| ativelkov | then it's better have a consistent UI till that time | 15:22 |
| gokrokve | ativelkov: Agree. | 15:22 |
| ativelkov | should we rise the priority of this task then? | 15:22 |
| gokrokve | Who is release manager for 0.3? | 15:23 |
| ativelkov | sergmelikyan, | 15:23 |
| gokrokve | Who tracks all required features for it? | 15:23 |
| gokrokve | Ok. | 15:23 |
| gokrokve | So, please make sure that everybody is in sync with Sergey on what we are going to release. Provide ETA and checkpoints dates. | 15:24 |
| sergmelikyan | I am tracking all tasks related to 0.3 | 15:24 |
| ativelkov | I think we had already passed a feature-freeze for 0.3, however its up to Serg to decide: probably if it's a simple feature, we may add it | 15:24 |
| sergmelikyan | We talking about dedicated Dashboard for Murano? | 15:24 |
| ativelkov | #action sergmelikyan to sync on tasks for 0.3 | 15:24 |
| gokrokve | Timur, you as a QA Lead need to make sure that you know what will be released and you need to have a test plan for that including a time line for testing. | 15:24 |
| sergmelikyan | If so, it is quite easy to add and we may add it to 0.3 | 15:25 |
| ativelkov | #action tsufiev and sergmelikyan to decide if Murano-Panle should be implemented and included into 0.3 | 15:25 |
| katyafervent | Note that we will need to edit our setup files after adding Murano as a separate panel | 15:25 |
| gokrokve | Sergey, please define checkpoints when you can decide to include feature or not depending on feature code availability and stability. | 15:26 |
| gokrokve | Track all features and work with engineers on feature statuses. | 15:26 |
| ativelkov | Do we have Timur N in the chat right now? | 15:26 |
| sergmelikyan | katyafervent, thx - this is important | 15:26 |
| sergmelikyan | gokrokve, sure | 15:26 |
| ativelkov | #info We will need to edit our setup files after adding Murano as a separate panel | 15:27 |
| akuznetsova | Timur is coming | 15:27 |
| gokrokve | sergmelikyan: Also check with Timur that he is aware about all features included. Sit with him and check test plan and dates. | 15:27 |
| gokrokve | We need to have robust test plan and good tipe frame for testing. | 15:28 |
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| ativelkov | Here come tnurlygayanov :) | 15:28 |
| ativelkov | Timur, we've got some action items for you :) | 15:28 |
| ativelkov | #action tnurlygayanov to verify the test plan for release-0.3 and align it with sergmelikyan who is the release owner | 15:29 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok ) | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | 1 min left? | 15:30 |
| ativelkov | nope, we've got a full hour | 15:30 |
| ativelkov | so, 30 more minutes | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | oh, cool | 15:30 |
| ativelkov | Let's follow up on the progress with our convection activity | 15:30 |
| ativelkov | rakhmerov, can you provide an update? | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | we actively started discussing convection ideas with harlowja | 15:31 |
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| rakhmerov | since we've come to similar things in murano we thought it would be great to unite our efforts (and with the rest of community) | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | and decided to start a new project https://launchpad.net/mistral | 15:33 |
| gokrokve | Regarding launchpad. Please add more description to the project page. | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | it's officially announced yet, all the organizational things are currently in progress (repo and so forth) | 15:33 |
| gokrokve | I've added some content to the wiki page. | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | gokrokve: sure | 15:34 |
| gokrokve | Please work with Joshua on that. | 15:34 |
| ativelkov | > it's officially announced yet | 15:34 |
| tsufiev | rakhmerov, you mean 'not announced' | 15:34 |
| ativelkov | do you mean NOT announced? | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | it's not | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | sorry | 15:34 |
| gokrokve | Add etherpad pages for DSL and implementation. | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | but I'd like belive we're close to that | 15:34 |
| gokrokve | We need to discuss them before publishing. | 15:34 |
| gokrokve | Add links for etherpad pages to the wiki | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | gokrokve: we started discussing technical details with the folks | 15:35 |
| tsufiev | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TaskServiceDesign - here is etherpad link | 15:35 |
| ativelkov | #info Joining efforts on workflow management with Joshua Harlow, new project (codenamed "Mistral") to be launched soon | 15:35 |
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| gokrokve | Probably it is good idea to start adding BPs to launchpad | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:35 |
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| rakhmerov | I'll add links to wiki | 15:36 |
| gokrokve | We are waiting input from Joshua and his managers about announcement text. Once it is done we will publish the announcement. | 15:36 |
| gokrokve | Check if Boris Pavlovich can follow up the announcement letter. | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | The wiki page is now empty, it's in my plans to start filling it up with all needed | 15:36 |
| ativelkov | We have also suggested a meeting slot for the new project. Waiting for the agreement on that | 15:36 |
| ativelkov | gokrokve, what do we need from Boris? | 15:36 |
| gokrokve | We need to create a good visibility for openstack community for Mistral. | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | we can talk to him | 15:37 |
| gokrokve | We need a follow up letter as a reply to announcement. We need his input\feedback about this project and how it can help other projects. | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | good idea | 15:38 |
| ativelkov | sure, we may ask him to do that | 15:38 |
| gokrokve | Also ask Sergey Lukyanov for a feedback. | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 15:38 |
| gokrokve | I know thay were thinking about taskflow | 15:38 |
| ativelkov | #action ativelkov to ask SergeyLukjanov and Boris Pavlovich for the feedback on Mistral announcement | 15:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ativelkov, howdy | 15:39 |
| gokrokve | Think about use cases for Mistral. I see a good value in scheduling part. Backup is still a pain in OpenStack. This is a good step forward if we can schedule a task which can do backup. | 15:40 |
| gokrokve | This is just an example of one potential use case. | 15:40 |
| ativelkov | sounds a good idea | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:40 |
| ativelkov | #info Scheduling a backup may be a good example of Mistral use-case | 15:41 |
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| ativelkov | So, it seems like we are done with our agenda. Does anybody have anything to discuss? | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | just some more technical details on Mistral | 15:43 |
| gokrokve | Metadata repository. Do we have a general view about metadata repo sync between them? | 15:44 |
| gokrokve | Is there versioning for workflows? | 15:44 |
| rakhmerov | I believe we'll have to look closely at TaskFlow library first and try to use it for Mistral. That's our current vision | 15:45 |
| rakhmerov | so we're planning to use the most part of its capabilities | 15:45 |
| ativelkov | gokrokve, not yet. That's a first version, it is intended to be as simple as possible. We've designed an "import service" and "export service" operations, they can be used for synchronization | 15:46 |
| tsufiev | ativelkov, according to the current spec, each Service Definition has a versioned format of manifest file and a version of Service itself | 15:47 |
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| ativelkov | tsufiev, that is different | 15:47 |
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| ativelkov | format version is just a version of the spec itself | 15:48 |
| ativelkov | version of the service is a stub: when we store the manifests in the database, we will be able to store multiple versions of the manifests | 15:48 |
| tsufiev | ativelkov, ok, guess we should not tie spec version to workflows one | 15:48 |
| ativelkov | however, having different versions of workflows is much more complicated | 15:49 |
| gokrokve | ok | 15:49 |
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| ativelkov | we'll need to discuss if we really want that with the current spec of metadata | 15:49 |
| gokrokve | Lets keep it simple for now. | 15:49 |
| ativelkov | ok | 15:49 |
| gokrokve | Will implement this differently in SC. | 15:50 |
| ativelkov | sure | 15:50 |
| ativelkov | anything else for this meeting? | 15:50 |
| rakhmerov | one more thing on Mistral: the current suggested time for community meetings is "Mondays at 16.00 UTC" | 15:50 |
| gokrokve | Not from my side. | 15:50 |
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| rakhmerov | seems like we're done :) | 15:51 |
| ativelkov | ok, thanks everybody | 15:51 |
| ativelkov | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 14 15:51:55 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-10-14-15.01.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-10-14-15.01.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-10-14-15.01.log.html | 15:52 |
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| kgriffs | sorry folks, forgot to come in here earlier to let everyone know we are skipping this week's Marconi meeting | 16:15 |
| kgriffs | come find us in #openstack-marconi in the mean time to discuss whatever. :D | 16:16 |
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