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| kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 27 17:00:39 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| kiall | Heya | 17:00 |
| simonmcc | Good Evening Squire | 17:00 |
| kiall | Who's about? | 17:01 |
| msisk | Here. | 17:01 |
| tsimmons | Here. | 17:01 |
| vinod1 | here | 17:01 |
| artom | Hai. | 17:01 |
| ekarlso | Oii! | 17:01 |
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| kiall | Agenda @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Designate | 17:01 |
| kiall | (Really light agenda ;)) | 17:01 |
| * CaptTofu o | 17:01 | |
| * CaptTofu \o | 17:01 | |
| kiall | So - If anyone has anything to add to the agenda, say so! I've been away, so have nothing to add myself | 17:02 |
| kiall | #toppic Review action items from last week | 17:02 |
| kiall | So - We had a few items from last week related to incubation, which we decided towards the end of the meeting to hold off on until the TC has a better idea what's changing | 17:03 |
| kiall | I've not had a chance to reach out to any of them yet, away and all :) | 17:03 |
| kiall | Then, theres "mugsie to organize VC for BP backlog review and general planning" | 17:03 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:03 |
| kiall | Which we'll organize in a few mins | 17:03 |
| russellb | coming together, we discussed the guidelines again at the TC meeting yesterday | 17:03 |
| russellb | should get solidified into an official motion soon ... | 17:04 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:04 |
| kiall | russellb: cool - sorry I didn't get a chance to ping you over the last week, I've been on holidays and otherwise catching up! | 17:04 |
| artom | Is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/incubation-requirements still valid? | 17:04 |
| kiall | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2013/tc.2013-11-26-20.02.html | 17:04 |
| kiall | ^ the logs from the TC meet yesterday | 17:05 |
| kiall | Okay - So... On to our shortest meeting ever :) | 17:05 |
| kiall | from mugsie - | 17:05 |
| kiall | #topic Blueprint Backlog Prioritisation (Scheduling the HO) | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint Backlog Prioritisation (Scheduling the HO) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:06 | |
| mugsie | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/Meetings/12-2013 | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/Meetings/12-2013 | 17:06 |
| mugsie | basically i have set up 3 things | 17:06 |
| mugsie | 1 - Launchpad meeting | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #link https://launchpad.net/sprints/designate-2013-review | 17:06 |
| mugsie | people can propose blueprints to be discussed there | 17:06 |
| mugsie | 2 - Google Hangout | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #link https://launchpad.net/sprints/designate-2013-review | 17:07 |
| mugsie | woops | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #link https://plus.google.com/events/cqmiqn68ee7ani18qaulllf3btg | 17:07 |
| mugsie | If people click attending there, it makes it easier on the day | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | 3 - Doodle | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #link http://doodle.com/zdmum876iscu6mdt | 17:07 |
| mugsie | if people fill this out with when suits them, we can choose a time good for all of us | 17:08 |
| mugsie | i left it open for 2 weeks (next week and the week after) | 17:08 |
| mugsie | it should switch to your timezone automatically | 17:08 |
| artom | It did for me. | 17:08 |
| mugsie | but if it doesnt, assume its UTC | 17:09 |
| mugsie | when it is all complete, I will send a final email with all the details | 17:09 |
| mugsie | does that sound good for people? | 17:09 |
| simonmcc | works for me | 17:09 |
| vinod1 | same here | 17:10 |
| tsimmons | mugsie: I'm not sure, but I think it may be that the Google+ event is invite only? | 17:10 |
| kiall | Yep - Looks good | 17:10 |
| mugsie | tsimmons: it shouldnt be... | 17:10 |
| mugsie | hum.. | 17:10 |
| tsimmons | I can't seem to join it :/ | 17:10 |
| artom | Yeah, I don't see an option to join either. | 17:10 |
| kiall | mugsie: heh :) | 17:11 |
| mugsie | ok, if people want to send me google account details i will add you all to it | 17:11 |
| mugsie | sorry... I was supposed to be open | 17:11 |
| kiall | Actually - Is everyone OK with Google Hangouts? | 17:11 |
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| kiall | (Just in case some people have a philosophical reason to avoid Google ;)) | 17:12 |
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| artom | Bah, they already know everything about me. | 17:12 |
| artom | What's another meeting? | 17:12 |
| mugsie | artom: +1 | 17:12 |
| mugsie | ;) | 17:12 |
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| vinod1 | One person who want to avoid Google is not not present at the meeting | 17:12 |
| vinod1 | Betsy | 17:13 |
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| artom | Is there an alternative though? | 17:13 |
| artom | We had this same discussion internally not long ago. | 17:13 |
| tsimmons | I'm sure she can look over someone's shoulder :) We'll probably set up a meeting room anyway. | 17:13 |
| kiall | HP Virtual Rooms (hah) | 17:13 |
| artom | Still use Hangouts :P | 17:13 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:13 |
| mugsie | i think we run with hangouts | 17:13 |
| vinod1 | Is there a limit on the number of people that can be present at a Google Hangout - I thought it was 10 or something similar | 17:14 |
| mugsie | nope, I made it an on air one | 17:14 |
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| kiall | I think there's a 10 "speaker" limit still? | 17:14 |
| kiall | But .. myself and mugsie will most likely be in 1 room - so that saves a spot ;) | 17:14 |
| artom | You HP guys can all merge to become one speaker ;) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:15 |
| simonmcc | :) | 17:15 |
| tsimmons | Yeah most of the RAX fokls could probably get in one room too if need be. | 17:15 |
| kiall | artom: not really doable ;) We live in 4 countries | 17:15 |
| mugsie | cool, will look into the limit, to be sure | 17:15 |
| artom | kiall, pfft, implementation details ;) | 17:15 |
| * mugsie thinks "road trip" | 17:15 | |
| mugsie | (jk) | 17:16 |
| kiall | Cool - artom is offering to expense the flights for everyone.. Lets do Dublin ;) | 17:16 |
| artom | Hah :D | 17:16 |
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| kiall | Anyway! Let's get some times into the doodle so we can pick the when. | 17:16 |
| mugsie | anyone any major issues / questions / comments on it? | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | and what kiall said | 17:17 |
| CaptTofu | hmm... | 17:17 |
| kiall | In the meantime, if anyone has any features etc that want to see discussed - file BP's in advance and we'll organize the actual agenda | 17:17 |
| kiall | Ideally, we'd all have some time in advance to get our own thoughts together on each of the BPs - So the sooner the better | 17:18 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | ok, take it that people are good with that? | 17:19 |
| kiall | Okay - Anything else on the VC / meet? | 17:19 |
| kiall | heh - snap mugsie ;) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | great minds ;) | 17:20 |
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| kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:20 |
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| kiall | Okay .. Moved on. | 17:20 |
| kiall | Agenda was light as hell today - So.. Open Question - Has anyone had a chance to consider ekarlso's floating IP reverse DNS blueprint? | 17:21 |
| kiall | He's working on the implementation, and hoping for some comment before it's done | 17:21 |
| ekarlso | :p | 17:21 |
| ekarlso | would be a plus :) | 17:21 |
| tsimmons | I know eankutse wanted to look at it, not sure if he got to it or not. | 17:22 |
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| vinod1 | I will look at it one more time today | 17:22 |
| kiall | tsimmons: cool, If he's on later, I'll see if I can reach him .. | 17:23 |
| kiall | Okay - Anyone have anything else? We have just a few minutes to spare ;) | 17:24 |
| mugsie | i am good | 17:24 |
| simonmcc | nothing from me - just updated the doodle. | 17:24 |
| tsimmons | Nothing from me. | 17:24 |
| artom | Š½ŠøŃŠµŠ³Š¾ | 17:25 |
| kiall | I'm guessing that means no or nothing? ;) | 17:25 |
| artom | Yep :) | 17:25 |
| vinod1 | nothing from me | 17:25 |
| artom | Let's see how the bots handle unicode ;) | 17:25 |
| mugsie | artom: i am guessing badly.. like most stuff ;) | 17:26 |
| kiall | Okay - Well, if there's nothing else.. Thanks all :) | 17:26 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:26 |
| kiall | #endmeeting | 17:26 |
| simonmcc | cya | 17:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 27 17:26:44 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2013/designate.2013-11-27-17.00.html | 17:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2013/designate.2013-11-27-17.00.txt | 17:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2013/designate.2013-11-27-17.00.log.html | 17:26 |
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| hub_cap | party | 17:59 |
| robertmyers | down | 17:59 |
| imsplitbit | o/ | 17:59 |
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| cweid | 0_0/ | 18:00 |
| isviridov | Hi, everybody | 18:00 |
| hub_cap | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 27 18:00:38 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hub_cap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| denis_makogon | o/ | 18:00 |
| imsplitbit | o7 | 18:00 |
| hub_cap | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting | 18:01 |
| cp16net | o^/ | 18:01 |
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| hub_cap | cp16net: i still dont know what that is | 18:01 |
| cp16net | its my virtual bicep | 18:01 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:01 |
| vipul | o/ | 18:01 |
| hub_cap | o^> | 18:01 |
| robertmyers | o/ | 18:01 |
| hub_cap | <^o^> | 18:01 |
| amytron | o/ | 18:02 |
| isviridov | )) | 18:02 |
| hub_cap | which way to the gun show? | 18:02 |
| cp16net | o^7 | 18:02 |
| imsplitbit | we've met you, you're not foolin anyone | 18:02 |
| hub_cap | ok so this should be a quick meeting since its close to the holiday | 18:02 |
| hub_cap | imsplitbit: LOL i hate u | 18:02 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:02 |
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| hub_cap | so lets get in to the jinja debate robertmyers denis_makogon | 18:02 |
| amytron | 7^o ā¦ that way hub_cap | 18:02 |
| imsplitbit | ready? | 18:03 |
| hub_cap | #topic jinja guest agent configuration | 18:03 |
| imsplitbit | go! | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "jinja guest agent configuration (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:03 | |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: sweet | 18:03 |
| juice | o/ | 18:03 |
| hub_cap | amytron: LOLLLLLL | 18:03 |
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| robertmyers | #link https://gist.github.com/rmyers/7678446 | 18:03 |
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| denis_makogon | i don't what to relay on path | 18:03 |
| robertmyers | Basically the idea is to move the guest conf in the templates | 18:03 |
| esmute | \o/ | 18:04 |
| denis_makogon | if it's hard to misconfigure - it would be great | 18:04 |
| robertmyers | it will work the same as other templates | 18:04 |
| hub_cap | so at the end of the day we will likely need some templates | 18:04 |
| robertmyers | you can override it in /etc/trove/templates | 18:04 |
| denis_makogon | it would be bad if i want to use side guest_conf | 18:05 |
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| denis_makogon | with parameter for my personal environment | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | the reason being is that we will provide 90% of configuration parameters that will not change | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | take mysql for instance, those template files will not change, but there may be some values we need to tweak | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | sorry, some values the _operator_ needs to tweak | 18:05 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: turning into a template will help you do that | 18:05 |
| denis_makogon | taskmanager had path to guest_conf | 18:06 |
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| vipul | insteaad of breaking it out as separate files.. how about just grouping options | 18:06 |
| denis_makogon | i'd like to use it | 18:06 |
| hub_cap | rather than having to keep their own copy of the template and merging back, we can do a _child_ conf for that | 18:06 |
| vipul | [mysql] | 18:06 |
| vipul | and have everything fall under that | 18:06 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, oslo cannot read though multiple lines | 18:06 |
| robertmyers | vipul: ++ | 18:07 |
| hub_cap | brb ~2 min while yall chat about this | 18:07 |
| vipul | denis_makogon: not sure what you mean | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: can you explain what you mean by that? afaik, oslo configs can be broken out into sections. | 18:07 |
| robertmyers | olso can to option groups | 18:07 |
| denis_makogon | i dont want to keep everyting in one conf | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | because we have lots for overlaps | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | mount_points | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | backup_strategy | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | etc | 18:08 |
| denis_makogon | dict option is worth idea | 18:08 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: there is no overlap if you use different sections | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | Options that you mention _have_ to be different per datastore type, and you can use a different section per datastore type. | 18:09 |
| vipul | afaik, oslo also allows you to specify >1 config file | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | vipul: that is also true. | 18:09 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, that is what i'm doing | 18:09 |
| denis_makogon | more then one config | 18:09 |
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| hub_cap | so hold up | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | this is 2 conversations | 18:10 |
| denis_makogon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58574/ | 18:10 |
| vipul | but then again.. are we at a point where need a config file for everything? | 18:10 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: that is fine, but for the base I'm suggesting to use one | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | the guest stuff in 2 config files vs [parameters] | 18:10 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, one on VM side | 18:10 |
| vipul | what you're trying to do is supported today in oslo via option groups.. | 18:10 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, i agree with that | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | weve all agreed before the [params] is a good idea | 18:10 |
| denis_makogon | but the way it formed is not clear | 18:10 |
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| hub_cap | its not the same thing though, right robertmyers ? | 18:11 |
| hub_cap | you want separate files to be joined into one group [guest] | 18:11 |
| robertmyers | well, sort of, I like using different config templates | 18:11 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, ++ | 18:11 |
| robertmyers | but using option groups is better | 18:11 |
| robertmyers | if it can be done easily | 18:12 |
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| vipul | robertmyers: +1 let's at least give that a shot before we go crazy splitting everything up | 18:12 |
| * hub_cap is a fan of crazy | 18:12 | |
| vipul | i know you are hub_cap :D | 18:12 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, could you point me how to use multiple groups ? | 18:12 |
| juice | i'm in favor of fewer config files...unless something is needed by extension | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | If we use option groups, we always have the option of splitting them into separate files later if we _need_ to... | 18:13 |
| vipul | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/api/oslo.config.cfg.html | 18:13 |
| juice | [GROUP1][....][GROUPn] | 18:13 |
| juice | basically sections in an .ini file | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | But I'd like to stick with option groups and the one config template for now. | 18:13 |
| vipul | conf.register_group(OptGroup(name=ārabbitā)) conf.register_opt(rabbit_port_opt, group=ārabbitā) | 18:13 |
| hub_cap | and then you have to do conf.rabbit.port | 18:14 |
| isviridov | IMHO There are two things: the config as artifact on remote VM and the data in config to render the first one. Templates is robust way to prepare configs, but where to store the data for rendering depends on how it will be changed: one big config, or even db | 18:14 |
| denis_makogon | seems to be easier to use jinja instead of oslo | 18:14 |
| juice | oslo is for config. jinja is for templating | 18:15 |
| juice | aren't these two separate concerns | 18:15 |
| denis_makogon | jinja is for everthing | 18:15 |
| vipul | LOL | 18:15 |
| cweid | jinja does not parse the config tho... | 18:15 |
| denis_makogon | cweid, and we don't need it do this | 18:15 |
| hub_cap | lets rewrite trove in jinja | 18:15 |
| hub_cap | :D | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | lol | 18:16 |
| vipul | hub_cap: +100 | 18:16 |
| juice | actually... | 18:16 |
| cp16net | lets rename trove to jinja | 18:16 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:16 |
| robertmyers | yes, well, my main point is to make the base config a template that we can change | 18:16 |
| hub_cap | ok so do we have some sort of consensus? robertmyers denis_makogon u feel better? | 18:16 |
| imsplitbit | jinja sounds awesome was it written by... | 18:16 |
| juice | ok lets get back to constructive | 18:16 |
| hub_cap | cp16net: no renaming sucks | 18:16 |
| cp16net | haha | 18:16 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i will feel better to use jinja to merge separate configs into one, without oslo | 18:16 |
| hub_cap | imsplitbit: im pretty sure obama wrote jinja | 18:17 |
| hub_cap | ZING | 18:17 |
| hub_cap | robertmyers: moving on? | 18:17 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: I agree that is a easier path forward | 18:17 |
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| robertmyers | hub_cap: sure | 18:17 |
| vipul | i don't know what decision was made :( | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | I don't think one was made, in the interest of time. | 18:18 |
| cp16net | vipul: you are not the only one | 18:18 |
| denis_makogon | #action Decision - Jinja | 18:18 |
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| robertmyers | vipul: I like the idea of option groups, but that would be a major overhaul | 18:18 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, ++ | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | [hehe] yes it would | 18:18 |
| robertmyers | i think we could move to that later | 18:18 |
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| vipul | robertmyers: it will be more confusing to people used to deploying other openstack things when they look at trove | 18:18 |
| vipul | we're not consistent | 18:19 |
| robertmyers | vipul: true, but the config is not setup that way currently | 18:19 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, there's no common policy, | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | So hang on I have a question. | 18:19 |
| robertmyers | so, we'd have to change alot of code | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | (If we're sticking to this topic) | 18:19 |
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| hub_cap | lets keep w/ it SlickNik | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | Are we talking about trove options per datastore type, or config options for the datastore itself (eg. my.cnf options)... | 18:20 |
| denis_makogon | per datastore | 18:20 |
| vipul | trove.conf option i believe | 18:20 |
| denis_makogon | trove-guestagent.conf | 18:21 |
| vipul | also.. i am not a fan of putting more things and injecting them.. | 18:21 |
| vipul | i think _some_ deployers will have alternate ways of getting static configs out to these things | 18:21 |
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| cp16net | so we are trying to make a guest config dynamic in nature so that it can support mutiple datastores | 18:22 |
| denis_makogon | injection wins against generic configs | 18:22 |
| vipul | the current patch basically requires this to happen via TaskManager | 18:22 |
| vipul | cp16net: i don't think it should be | 18:23 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, and it would happen only in taskmanager | 18:23 |
| vipul | why couldn't you have 1 static config -- that has options for all datastores | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | I tend to agree with vipul here, You need templating if you want to dynamically change the config (on the fly) based on certain inputs. | 18:23 |
| vipul | why do i need to manage or need Trove to manage for me a datastore specific conf | 18:23 |
| denis_makogon | does option groups handle parameters with same names ? | 18:23 |
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| vipul | sure.. rabbit.host is not == database.host | 18:24 |
| isviridov | SlickNik, +1 | 18:24 |
| cp16net | yea i dont think there is a need for templating the guest config here | 18:24 |
| robertmyers | SlickNik: we do for the guest_id | 18:24 |
| cp16net | the guest should be able to run with its config | 18:24 |
| vipul | robertmyers: i agree with that one.. that's the only dynamic thing that the guest shoudl be aware of | 18:24 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, w need dynamic input because generic config look awful | 18:24 |
| cp16net | and the injected /etc/guest_info should have the datastore type and other changable data | 18:25 |
| cp16net | if anything you could make the /etc/guest_info a template if you like | 18:25 |
| denis_makogon | to many parameters should be changed per provisioning | 18:25 |
| cp16net | that would be fine | 18:25 |
| vipul | denis_makogon: but nothing in the .conf you are proposing is actually dynamic | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: What config param (other than the guest_id) even makes sense to change dynamically from the task manager? | 18:25 |
| denis_makogon | manager, mount_phttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/58574/3/trove/templates/mysql/guest_info.config | 18:26 |
| vipul | ok that's the guest_info.. which actually has been dynamic.. we've moving it out from a hard coded string to a config file +1 | 18:26 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, do you agree with this idea ? | 18:27 |
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| denis_makogon | SlickNik, what do you think ? | 18:27 |
| vipul | denis_makogon: i'm fine with that... | 18:28 |
| vipul | denis_makogon: i'm not ok with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58574/3/trove/taskmanager/models.py where you're pushing out trove-guestagent.conf | 18:28 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, it would re-written to merge everything in one config | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: When would you want to change the mount point dynamically to cater to multiple entries across guest agents (i.e. for what set of input would a guestagent A have mount point A and guestagent B have mount point B). | 18:28 |
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| hub_cap | A.type != B.type ? | 18:29 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 18:29 |
| cweid | I think mount point should be set by the guest agent impl and not a config... | 18:30 |
| denis_makogon | cweid, that is my words | 18:30 |
| cweid | Is it even important to have the mount be dynamic? | 18:30 |
| cweid | it is just a mapping to a device. | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | hub_cap: you mean datastore type? Even then it would be consistent across a datastore type. | 18:30 |
| hub_cap | ok we are 30 min in and have tangented a good bit :) | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | let's move on | 18:31 |
| hub_cap | should we table this and move on? | 18:31 |
| robertmyers | sure | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | I'm good with that. We can bring it up later in #openstack-trove | 18:31 |
| hub_cap | #topic custom test groups | 18:32 |
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| hub_cap | denis_makogon: this is u | 18:32 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i would like to bring trove reddwarf job into infra | 18:32 |
| denis_makogon | to give us ability to change it as we need to support new test groups | 18:32 |
| denis_makogon | without involving infra | 18:33 |
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| vipul | what is a test group | 18:33 |
| cp16net | int-tests --group=mytest.group? | 18:33 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 18:33 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, is it possible to publish reddwarf job ? | 18:34 |
| hub_cap | u should have access to view it denis_makogon | 18:34 |
| cp16net | to make a new jekins job? | 18:35 |
| vipul | you want to move teh int-test gate into openstack-infra's resources? | 18:35 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, update current | 18:35 |
| denis_makogon | vipul, yes | 18:35 |
| vipul | currently core can edit the job i believe | 18:35 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: oh i was talking about this to the infra team | 18:35 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i know =/ | 18:35 |
| vipul | if you want to do that, +1 i think it will involve some puppetry | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | that's right, currently only core can edit the job. | 18:36 |
| hub_cap | they said they do not want us to move forward with this job until the tempest tests are working | 18:36 |
| denis_makogon | since i'm not in -core, that's impossible for me | 18:36 |
| vipul | if you want something edited.. just reach out to someone | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: I can send you a list of what the job does, it's really simple. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | But, like hub_cap says, there's other things that need to fall into place before we this can happen. | 18:37 |
| vipul | while on this topic... we should really think about requiring some form of 'donated' resources when adding new datastores | 18:37 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: i wouldnt do more work on this task.. i was told yesterday late that we should first do the tempest tests | 18:37 |
| vipul | we add them.. but have no clue if they still work | 18:37 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, i know what the job does, i update it to support tests for mongo, cassandra, redis, postgresql | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: A good first step would be to add the tests first and to get them to pass _outside_ the gate. | 18:38 |
| hub_cap | vipul: the tempest tests, imho, should be spinning up instance/clusters of these and running similar and unique to a _type tests | 18:38 |
| denis_makogon | SlickNik, of course | 18:38 |
| vipul | i don't like the idea of one job doing all datastore types | 18:38 |
| vipul | it's likely to fail always -- and hard to figure out why | 18:39 |
| denis_makogon | waiting for tempest sounds like huge delay for any new database | 18:39 |
| denis_makogon | first review with new databases were published almost two month ago | 18:39 |
| hub_cap | there will be a point where we need to make databases wait | 18:39 |
| hub_cap | i think we can let these in once we verify they are clean | 18:40 |
| hub_cap | and redis, since that is a work in progess | 18:40 |
| hub_cap | but for new datastores, lets wait till tempest | 18:40 |
| cp16net | well that makes tempest tests a higher prio | 18:40 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, even more then higher | 18:40 |
| cp16net | super high | 18:40 |
| denis_makogon | zero-priority | 18:41 |
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| vipul | are you guys describing how you felt last night | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | LOL | 18:41 |
| cp16net | how did you know? | 18:41 |
| denis_makogon | ok | 18:42 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:42 |
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| hub_cap | LOL | 18:42 |
| denis_makogon | what the status with tempest tests ? | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | vipul has zero-intuition, cp16net | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | pineapple express priority | 18:42 |
| vipul | lol | 18:42 |
| denis_makogon | is it possible to make any estimates ? | 18:42 |
| cp16net | denis_makogon: good question. what is the status? | 18:43 |
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| cp16net | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/trove-tempest | 18:43 |
| hub_cap | heh | 18:43 |
| cp16net | i think the prio should be uped... != undefined | 18:43 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, nice one | 18:43 |
| hub_cap | im starting work on that today | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | I'm only getting started working on some of it since I got back. | 18:44 |
| hub_cap | heh SlickNik and i are in the same boat | 18:44 |
| imsplitbit | you guys are on a boat???? | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TroveTempestTesting | 18:44 |
| cp16net | with flippy floppys | 18:44 |
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| vipul | http://theawesomer.com/photos/2010/07/070810_old_spice_boat_t.jpg | 18:46 |
| denis_makogon | any other topics ? | 18:46 |
| hub_cap | hahah | 18:46 |
| hub_cap | time to move on then? | 18:46 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 18:46 |
| cp16net | sure | 18:46 |
| hub_cap | #topic config template per version | 18:46 |
| cp16net | oh... | 18:46 |
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| denis_makogon | mine | 18:47 |
| cp16net | #action someone update the priority of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/trove-tempest | 18:47 |
| denis_makogon | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/config-template-per-package | 18:47 |
| denis_makogon | there's need to provide config.template per datastore_version | 18:48 |
| cp16net | denis_makogon: i've worked on addressing this already in the configurations | 18:48 |
| cp16net | unless i am misunderstanding what you mean | 18:48 |
| hub_cap | aww ya sweet :P | 18:49 |
| denis_makogon | i mean that my.cnf for mysql 5.5 would not work with mysql 4 | 18:49 |
| denis_makogon | etc | 18:49 |
| cp16net | yeah | 18:49 |
| cp16net | exactly | 18:49 |
| cp16net | i'm about to have that addressed in my new review | 18:49 |
| cp16net | i'm working on addressing the comments from denis_makogon and amcrn right now | 18:50 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, which one ? | 18:50 |
| cp16net | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53168 | 18:50 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: link please? | 18:50 |
| SlickNik | thanks! | 18:50 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, ah | 18:50 |
| cp16net | i'll update the ML thread when i have it finished | 18:50 |
| denis_makogon | but your case covers another scope | 18:51 |
| denis_makogon | mine covers different versions | 18:51 |
| denis_makogon | your covering configuration overall | 18:51 |
| cp16net | oh.... | 18:52 |
| denis_makogon | common thins between our reviews is word "configuration" | 18:52 |
| cp16net | i think i know what you are getting at | 18:52 |
| cp16net | and no i didnt adderss that... | 18:52 |
| denis_makogon | ok, nevermind | 18:52 |
| cp16net | :) | 18:52 |
| denis_makogon | i'd like to get approve on this BP | 18:52 |
| robertmyers | templates/{datastore}/{version}/config ? | 18:52 |
| cp16net | trove/template/mysql/config.template | 18:52 |
| denis_makogon | {version}.config.template | 18:53 |
| robertmyers | templates/{datastore}/{version}.config ? | 18:53 |
| robertmyers | ok | 18:53 |
| cp16net | but you want something like trove/template/mysql/4/config.template | 18:53 |
| cp16net | trove/template/mysql/5.5/config.template | 18:53 |
| cp16net | trove/template/mysql/5.1/config.template | 18:53 |
| denis_makogon | cp16net, to complicated hierarchy | 18:53 |
| denis_makogon | *too | 18:53 |
| denis_makogon | trove/template/mysql/5.1.config.template | 18:53 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: +1 | 18:54 |
| cp16net | ok sound sgood | 18:54 |
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| cp16net | will this still have a "default" | 18:54 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 18:54 |
| denis_makogon | trove/template/mysql/config.template | 18:54 |
| denis_makogon | trove/template/mysql/default.config.template | 18:54 |
| cp16net | so the version needs to match what is setup in the datastore version list? | 18:54 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 18:54 |
| denis_makogon | it's important | 18:55 |
| cp16net | yeah +1 | 18:55 |
| denis_makogon | only problem - duplicating | 18:55 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: jinja extend is your friend | 18:55 |
| cp16net | #agree we need versions on template configs and a default | 18:55 |
| denis_makogon | you could name version like mysql-5.5-lol and mysql-5.5-bark-bark | 18:55 |
| denis_makogon | two different version, but same db | 18:56 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: mysql-5.5-bark-bark extends mysql-5.5-lol | 18:56 |
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| robertmyers | done | 18:56 |
| cp16net | its different packages | 18:56 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: why mysql-5.5-bark-bark, and not mysql-5.5-barkā¦ DRY. | 18:57 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, extending would not work at this time, too complicated | 18:57 |
| cp16net | so technially they are different and should be treated as such | 18:57 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: no, it is not | 18:57 |
| hub_cap | i would totally buy mysql-5.5-bark-bark service if i could | 18:57 |
| cp16net | the extentions need to be handled and made by the deployer anyways as well as manging the datastores | 18:58 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, lets see if it would work without extensions, and then discuss it again | 18:58 |
| robertmyers | as long as it has a default it doesn't mater | 18:58 |
| imsplitbit | you're a cat person hub_cap you know you'd rather have mysql-5.5-meow-mewo | 18:58 |
| robertmyers | if you set up 5 of the same that is your mess to clean up | 18:59 |
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| robertmyers | I'm just saying you *can* extend a template and it will be the same. | 18:59 |
| hub_cap | imsplitbit: meow-bark-meow | 18:59 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, suppose we need to change one parameter and add another block ? does jinja handle such cases ? | 18:59 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: yes | 19:00 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, at the same time > | 19:00 |
| denis_makogon | ? | 19:00 |
| robertmyers | Jinja is pretty powerful and you can do a lot with it | 19:00 |
| cp16net | jinja sounds magically | 19:00 |
| denis_makogon | i mean that child block override several parameters and add new ? | 19:01 |
| robertmyers | try it you might like it | 19:01 |
| cp16net | over meeting time | 19:01 |
| cp16net | need to end | 19:01 |
| hub_cap | cp16net: magically delicious | 19:01 |
| hub_cap | #endmeeting | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 27 19:01:28 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-11-27-18.00.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-11-27-18.00.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-11-27-18.00.log.html | 19:01 |
| cweid | Have a good turkey day everyone if you are into that kind of stuff. | 19:01 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks cweid. You too! | 19:02 |
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