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kgriffs | Public service announcement: Marconi meeting starting in ~5 minutes | 14:54 |
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flaper87 | yo yo | 15:01 |
flwang | o/ | 15:01 |
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kgriffs | \o\ | 15:01 |
kgriffs | /o/ | 15:01 |
kgriffs | \o/ | 15:01 |
* flaper87 wonders where Cindy is | 15:01 | |
kgriffs | who else is here? | 15:01 |
kgriffs | for marconi? | 15:01 |
flaper87 | All for marconi, marconi for all | 15:02 |
kgriffs | anyone from Racklanta? | 15:02 |
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flaper87 | ametts: wwwwwwwwwwwweeelllllcome | 15:02 |
ametts | :D | 15:03 |
kgriffs | ametts: go tell Amit to wake up and get back in his chair. :D | 15:03 |
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flaper87 | ametts: tell him to get back to his chair and then to wake up | 15:03 |
* kgriffs beams Amit some coffee | 15:04 | |
flaper87 | I think that'll be more efficient | 15:04 |
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ametts | :) Will do. We had an outage with our backup product last night, so he's probably chasing some things down related to that. | 15:04 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: w00t! | 15:04 |
amitgandhi | yup =/ | 15:04 |
flaper87 | ametts: things or people ? | 15:04 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: sorry to hear that | 15:04 |
amitgandhi | indexes | 15:04 |
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* kgriffs breaths a sign of relieve that it wasn't *his* code that caused the outage | 15:04 | |
flaper87 | kgriffs: are you sure about that? | 15:05 |
flaper87 | really really sure? | 15:05 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:05 |
* kgriffs at least, not *this* time, heh | 15:05 | |
kgriffs | uh | 15:05 |
* kgriffs ducks | 15:05 | |
flaper87 | anyway, lets get this party started | 15:05 |
kgriffs | my pleasure | 15:05 |
kgriffs | #startmeeting marconi | 15:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 2 15:05:51 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kgriffs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:05 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'marconi' | 15:05 |
kgriffs | #topic review actions from last time | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "review actions from last time (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:06 | |
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kgriffs | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-11-18-16.09.html | 15:06 |
kgriffs | flaper87: you're up first | 15:07 |
flaper87 | damnit | 15:07 |
kgriffs | I can't remember what you were supposed to talk to him about... | 15:07 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: you shouldn't be surprised by the fact that I don't remember it either | 15:07 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:07 |
* kgriffs vows to write better action items in the future | 15:07 | |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: ahhh | 15:08 |
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flaper87 | I think I remember | 15:08 |
flaper87 | it's about the API | 15:08 |
flaper87 | and the specs, extensions and versioning | 15:08 |
* flaper87 reads the logs | 15:08 | |
flaper87 | anyway, I haven't so, we can move on | 15:08 |
flaper87 | lets re-add the action item | 15:08 |
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flaper87 | no, it was about the sdk | 15:09 |
kgriffs | maybe JMS? | 15:09 |
flaper87 | and the client | 15:09 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:09 |
kgriffs | ah | 15:09 |
kgriffs | that's right | 15:09 |
kgriffs | sharing ideas about client design | 15:09 |
flaper87 | so, my memory works after all | 15:09 |
flaper87 | I just need to fix my brain's indexes | 15:09 |
kgriffs | #action flaper87 to get in touch with Everett Toews and share ideas about client design | 15:09 |
kgriffs | Alej isn't here | 15:10 |
flaper87 | :( | 15:10 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: ? | 15:10 |
kgriffs | do you know if Alej is going to be available this week? | 15:10 |
amitgandhi | informed him | 15:10 |
amitgandhi | he is signing in | 15:10 |
kgriffs | ah | 15:10 |
amitgandhi | he didnt know the 10am change (EST) | 15:10 |
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kgriffs | sorry about the calendar invite - I updated an instance, not the recurring, so that is probably why he didn't know | 15:11 |
alcabrera | o/ | 15:11 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: ni hao! | 15:11 |
alcabrera | I miscalculated the UTCs while catching up on 300+ emails. :P | 15:11 |
alcabrera | Thought I had one more hour, heh. | 15:11 |
kgriffs | no worries | 15:11 |
kgriffs | have you had a chance to talk with the heat team? | 15:12 |
alcabrera | no | 15:12 |
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kgriffs | alcabrera: do you have bandwidth to do that this week? | 15:12 |
* alcabrera considers this | 15:13 | |
* kgriffs upgrades alcabrera to 10g | 15:13 | |
flaper87 | alcabrera: HELLOOOOO | 15:13 |
* alcabrera considers with greater bandwidth | 15:13 | |
alcabrera | :D | 15:13 |
alcabrera | flaper87: heeeey! | 15:13 |
amitgandhi | kgriffs: probably not | 15:13 |
kgriffs | kk | 15:13 |
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amitgandhi | we can maybe look at adding it to the next sprint | 15:13 |
kgriffs | anyone else interested in taking this action item? | 15:13 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: when does that start? | 15:14 |
alcabrera | yeah, I'm pretty full up on wrapping some things up | 15:14 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: I can re-take it and dig a bit more | 15:14 |
flaper87 | I'm not sure I'll be able to do anything significant on it, though | 15:14 |
flaper87 | (like real coding) | 15:14 |
kgriffs | flaper87: ok. You have some Heat contacts in Red Hat, right? | 15:14 |
* alcabrera gives flaper87 the heatz and a pop tart | 15:14 | |
amitgandhi | i think it should be starting on thursday (meeting invites are messed up due to holiday) | 15:14 |
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flaper87 | but at least I can take some time to figure out what we need to do and write an etherpad | 15:14 |
kgriffs | flaper87: we just need someone to spec out the work | 15:15 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: I do | 15:15 |
kgriffs | kk | 15:15 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: PTL + several devs | 15:15 |
kgriffs | sweet | 15:15 |
alcabrera | thanks, flaper87! | 15:15 |
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flaper87 | alcabrera: my pleasure :) | 15:15 |
kgriffs | #action flaper87 to spec out heat integration blueprint | 15:16 |
kgriffs | #action kgriffs to play with swob | 15:16 |
kgriffs | I still need to do that | 15:16 |
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alcabrera | lol | 15:17 |
flwang | I can do some work about heat as well maybe | 15:17 |
flaper87 | flwang: awesome, thanks a lot! | 15:17 |
flwang | my colleague is heat core member | 15:17 |
flaper87 | flwang: if you've some bandwidth then I can hand that action over to you | 15:18 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:18 |
flwang | I'm waiting for some low-hanging-fruit :) | 15:18 |
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flaper87 | flwang: no time for that, lets attack dinosaurs | 15:19 |
kgriffs | #action flwang to work with flaper87 to figure out what templates we want to do for marconi | 15:19 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:19 |
flwang | so it would be nice if there is any good man tell me how big it's | 15:19 |
flaper87 | it's like this big: | | | 15:19 |
flwang | =-O | 15:19 |
kgriffs | flwang: I imagine we will want a template to create some queues, also one to deploy Marconi itself | 15:20 |
flwang | i'm just a little boy :) | 15:20 |
flwang | kgriffs: i see. | 15:20 |
flwang | thanks for the clarification | 15:20 |
flaper87 | flwang: jokes apart, it'll require some work because we need to create templates for it and we need to make them sqs compliant as well | 15:20 |
kgriffs | re deploying marconi, I will put you in touch with Oz who architected Rackspace's deployment for some tips | 15:20 |
flaper87 | Oz++ | 15:20 |
kgriffs | k | 15:21 |
kgriffs | let's see what else | 15:21 |
kgriffs | alcabrera to work on sharding feedback and get it approved | 15:22 |
alcabrera | that's still in progress | 15:22 |
alcabrera | I'll give it some proper attention today, now that I'm refreshed with a much needed break. | 15:23 |
kgriffs | the main patch got merged, tho, right? | 15:23 |
alcabrera | :) | 15:23 |
flaper87 | remaining patches are about to be merged | 15:23 |
alcabrera | yeah, patch #1 in that sequence | 15:23 |
kgriffs | ok | 15:23 |
flaper87 | I just had one last tiny comment in one of Zyuan patches | 15:23 |
alcabrera | afaik, queue listing and caching still need to get in | 15:23 |
flaper87 | and I just saw he worked on that | 15:23 |
kgriffs | let's get the queue listing and caching ones merged | 15:23 |
flaper87 | so, I guess we can get them in today | 15:23 |
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kgriffs | I need to rebase the cache ones | 15:23 |
alcabrera | I'll take a look at those patches after this meeting | 15:24 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: is Zhihao in teh house? | 15:24 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: thanks! | 15:24 |
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alcabrera | kgriffs: zyuan is here | 15:25 |
kgriffs | #action everyone to get remaining sharding patches merged | 15:25 |
alcabrera | he's occupied at the moment, though. | 15:25 |
kgriffs | kk | 15:25 |
kgriffs | moving on | 15:26 |
kgriffs | #topic Future of the home doc | 15:26 |
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kgriffs | So, json-home RFC is alive and well, according to mnot | 15:26 |
kgriffs | he is working on a new draft to replace 03, which has expired | 15:26 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: btw, dunno if you went through openstack-dev emails | 15:26 |
flaper87 | I raised this issue upstream: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/020289.html | 15:26 |
kgriffs | flaper87: not yet since I got back | 15:26 |
kgriffs | ah, cool | 15:27 |
flaper87 | and since keystone guys are using a similar approach, I asked them what would be the effort needed to use json-home there as well | 15:27 |
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flaper87 | instead of what they're using | 15:27 |
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flaper87 | they agreed on shipping it along with what they have for now and see how it works | 15:27 |
flaper87 | obviously, I don't think it'll have a priority higher than 'underground' | 15:28 |
flaper87 | but at least we got json-home 'out there' | 15:28 |
kgriffs | ok, can you nudge them towards Mark N. ? | 15:28 |
flaper87 | and some folks agree that it's the right thing to use | 15:28 |
kgriffs | I think we he would love the feedback | 15:28 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: I did | 15:28 |
kgriffs | rock on | 15:28 |
flaper87 | and also the other way around | 15:28 |
flaper87 | Mark -> openstack-dev thread | 15:28 |
kgriffs | cool | 15:29 |
flaper87 | so, json-home FTW | 15:29 |
kgriffs | The standard will be more likely to succeed if it is based on real-world needs/usage | 15:29 |
kgriffs | kk | 15:29 |
kgriffs | related: bug | 15:29 |
flaper87 | also, I noticed we're defining query params in our home document | 15:29 |
* kgriffs looks that up | 15:29 | |
flaper87 | the RFC explicitly says that query params are optional and shouldn't be part of the url | 15:30 |
flaper87 | at least I thik I read that | 15:30 |
flaper87 | I'd like to have a way to specify custom query params and headers, though. | 15:30 |
kgriffs | flaper87: hmm. Let me check on that. I probably just read that is was a URI template and assumed any part of URI templates was fair game | 15:30 |
kgriffs | flaper87: we may want to add extensions to json-home if we can't convince Mark to add them to the spec | 15:31 |
kgriffs | flaper87: as long as they are extra fields, not changes to fields, should be OK | 15:31 |
kgriffs | but, if we need them, other people probably do to, so we should lobby for them to go into the spec | 15:31 |
flaper87 | yeah, exactly | 15:32 |
kgriffs | #action kgriffs to confirm whether or not query params are ok in json-home URI templates | 15:32 |
flaper87 | I got the feeling that the rFC has a strong opinion about query params | 15:32 |
flaper87 | and the fact that they shouldn't be there | 15:33 |
flaper87 | We could aregue that | 15:33 |
flaper87 | argue | 15:33 |
kgriffs | ok, I will follow up | 15:33 |
kgriffs | so, related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/marconi/+bug/1245656 | 15:33 |
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kgriffs | I added a comment to the bottom of the bug | 15:34 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: cool, thanks | 15:34 |
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kgriffs | Mr. Vollero in teh house? | 15:34 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: don't think so | 15:34 |
kgriffs | flaper87: do you think he would cry if we reassign? | 15:35 |
* kgriffs doesn't like to make people cry | 15:35 | |
flaper87 | kgriffs: don't think so | 15:35 |
kgriffs | ok | 15:35 |
kgriffs | flwang: interested in picking this one up? | 15:35 |
flwang | yep, sure | 15:35 |
kgriffs | w00t | 15:35 |
kgriffs | thanks, man | 15:35 |
kgriffs | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/53559/ | 15:36 |
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flwang | thank you :) | 15:36 |
kgriffs | flwang: ^^^ That should explain the problem and solution pretty well | 15:36 |
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kgriffs | hmmm. Paste seems to be slow today | 15:36 |
flwang | kgriffs: got, but seems it's owned by Francesco Vollero already | 15:37 |
kgriffs | reassigned. :D | 15:37 |
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kgriffs | #action kgriffs to re-target bps and bugs to Icehouse milestones | 15:38 |
flwang | I assume i'm not hijacking | 15:38 |
kgriffs | nope | 15:38 |
flwang | :P | 15:38 |
kgriffs | no worries | 15:38 |
kgriffs | #topic Doc generation | 15:39 |
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kgriffs | so, just wanted to get everyones thoughts on the priority for getting at least basic marconi docs going | 15:39 |
flaper87 | +1 | 15:39 |
alcabrera | +1 | 15:39 |
alcabrera | I'd love to get those going. | 15:40 |
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flaper87 | so, I think we should document base classes extensibly and build docs out of that | 15:40 |
alcabrera | For whatever tiny amount of bandwidth I have available this week. | 15:40 |
flaper87 | Mark did that with oslo.messaging and docs came out pretty cool | 15:40 |
kgriffs | ok | 15:40 |
flaper87 | also, re auto-generate sample config files | 15:40 |
flaper87 | that's blocked by this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/improve-config-discovery-for-docs | 15:40 |
flaper87 | because we're not using global configs | 15:41 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: can you create a blueprint and assign it to a milestone and then I will prioritize it? | 15:41 |
alcabrera | flaper87: I'd like to take it a step further than that. At least a front page introducing the marconi docs, something I'd feel good about reading on RTD if I knew nothing about marconi. :D | 15:41 |
alcabrera | kgriffs: will do | 15:41 |
kgriffs | there may already be a bp, but it is probably really old and could use some TLC | 15:41 |
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kgriffs | alcabrera: there is an "open stack way" to generating docs iirc | 15:41 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: oh, cool! | 15:41 |
kgriffs | I'm not familiar with the details | 15:41 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: correct | 15:41 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: classes + sphix and upload it to docs.openstack.org | 15:42 |
alcabrera | there's three doc-related BPs atm: docstring-catchup, docstring-add-types, http-redirects-for-docs | 15:42 |
alcabrera | I'll add one more | 15:42 |
kgriffs | kk | 15:42 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: you can ping Anne Gentle - she is docs PTL, isn't she? | 15:42 |
flwang | any plan to add the api details to api site? | 15:42 |
alcabrera | kgriffs: that's correct | 15:42 |
alcabrera | I'll check with her before I run off and start anything. :) | 15:43 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: kk, she's a Racker so should be easy to lookup her contact info | 15:43 |
alcabrera | cool | 15:43 |
flwang | kgriffs: like http://api.openstack.org/api-ref.html | 15:43 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: excellent, thanks! | 15:43 |
kgriffs | flwang: it would be great to get on that page; we may not be allowed to do that until we graduate, however | 15:43 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: ^^^ I guess you can ask about that | 15:43 |
flwang | kgriffs: got | 15:44 |
kgriffs | we can put some stuff on readthedocs in the meantime | 15:44 |
alcabrera | kgriffs: adding a note on the BP I'm drafting to address the API page. :) | 15:44 |
alcabrera | flwang: thanks for bringing that up! | 15:44 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: mmh, I'm not sure about RTD | 15:44 |
flaper87 | tbh | 15:44 |
flaper87 | I'd prefer to wait a bit more before uploading it there | 15:45 |
flaper87 | I don't want people to be confused as to where the docs are and stuff | 15:45 |
kgriffs | flaper87: good point. I just thought of it because ceilometer did that | 15:46 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: oh, mmh, interesting | 15:46 |
flaper87 | I didn't know that | 15:46 |
kgriffs | well, first step is to get them generating | 15:46 |
flaper87 | yeah | 15:46 |
kgriffs | we can worry about publishing later | 15:46 |
flaper87 | and then we'll figure out what to do | 15:46 |
alcabrera | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/basic-docs | 15:46 |
flwang | may be it's stupid, is the rst dev doc including? | 15:46 |
alcabrera | drafted | 15:46 |
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flaper87 | flwang: not sure what you mean :( | 15:47 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: can you see if there is time in your next sprint to work this doc stuff in? | 15:47 |
kgriffs | if not, we can shoot for first thing in january | 15:48 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: I'd leave the remaining topics for next week, we've got 10mins left | 15:48 |
flwang | the dev docs associated with source code | 15:48 |
flaper87 | and I don't want to rush those discussions | 15:48 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:48 |
amitgandhi | its unlikely to get in | 15:48 |
kgriffs | flaper87: ah, come on. Don't you want to have a 3 hour meeting? | 15:48 |
flaper87 | concurrency and notifications, that sounds like liters of coffee | 15:48 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: ah sure, in that case, lets keep it going | 15:48 |
flwang | flaper87: just like https://github.com/openstack/glance/tree/master/doc | 15:48 |
flaper87 | :D | 15:48 |
amitgandhi | but we can discuss at planning... | 15:49 |
flaper87 | flwang: ah yeah, that's what this bp is about | 15:49 |
flaper87 | writing RSTs | 15:49 |
flaper87 | code docs | 15:49 |
flaper87 | and generating those | 15:49 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: ok, the docs stuff isn't super high priority, but I would like to have it done sometime by the end of Jan | 15:49 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: ^^^ | 15:49 |
flwang | flaper87: cool, got it | 15:49 |
amitgandhi | ok sure , we'll make sure its in the backlog | 15:49 |
alcabrera | cool | 15:50 |
kgriffs | thanks! | 15:50 |
alcabrera | It's critical for the sake of wide-spread marconi advocation efforts, but I know other things have higher priority atm | 15:50 |
alcabrera | (It's -> basic docs) | 15:50 |
flwang | alcabrera: +1 | 15:51 |
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kgriffs | alcabrera: I will make it a high priority for I3, If we get it done in I2, great! | 15:52 |
alcabrera | sounds good, kgriffs. | 15:53 |
kgriffs | amitgandhi: notifications discussion, is that something you are OK waiting on until next week? | 15:53 |
amitgandhi | i would like to discuss this week on #marconi if possible | 15:54 |
kgriffs | ok | 15:54 |
flaper87 | amitgandhi: lets set a day and hour | 15:54 |
flaper87 | kgriffs: alcabrera ^ | 15:54 |
amitgandhi | we need to start nailing down some parts of the api so that some internal stuff mirrors it | 15:54 |
kgriffs | this channel isn't scheduled for several hours, so we could do it now if everyone has time | 15:54 |
kgriffs | otherwise, we will need to reschedule | 15:54 |
amitgandhi | i have time | 15:55 |
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flaper87 | kgriffs: lets reschedule, I've got a call in 5 | 15:55 |
flaper87 | :( | 15:55 |
kgriffs | ok | 15:55 |
flaper87 | tomorrow | 15:55 |
kgriffs | flaper87: do you have time today or should we try for tomorrow? | 15:55 |
flaper87 | same time ? | 15:55 |
alcabrera | +1 for tomorrow | 15:55 |
alcabrera | same time works for me | 15:56 |
alcabrera | that being.... 1500 UTC? | 15:56 |
flaper87 | alcabrera: correct | 15:56 |
alcabrera | yup, works for me | 15:57 |
alcabrera | kgriffs, amitgandhi: ^ | 15:57 |
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amitgandhi | sure | 15:57 |
flaper87 | awesome | 15:57 |
kgriffs | ok, let's do that | 15:58 |
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kgriffs | #action everyone to participate in notifications breakout tomorrow, Dec 3, at 1500 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt | 15:58 |
kgriffs | #topic open discussion | 15:58 |
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flaper87 | o/ | 15:58 |
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* kgriffs calls on flaper87 | 15:59 | |
flaper87 | I just wanted to share this marconi_ws hack I worked on yday: https://github.com/FlaPer87/marconi-websocket | 15:59 |
flaper87 | It's a POC for websocket and it currently just proxies our public wsgi API | 15:59 |
alcabrera | I've had it sitting in a browser tab all this morning. Great work, flaper87! | 15:59 |
amitgandhi | nice! | 16:00 |
flaper87 | I'll now clean it up and it'll be ready to be used as another transport for Marconi | 16:00 |
flaper87 | :) | 16:00 |
flaper87 | gtg guys, I'll share more details in a bit! | 16:01 |
kgriffs | groovy | 16:01 |
flaper87 | great meeting | 16:01 |
kgriffs | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 2 16:01:21 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
alcabrera | flaper87: o/ | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-12-02-15.05.html | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-12-02-15.05.txt | 16:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2013/marconi.2013-12-02-15.05.log.html | 16:01 |
alcabrera | I'll update the minutes/meeting logs | 16:01 |
kgriffs | thanks! | 16:01 |
kgriffs | I already updated the agenda | 16:01 |
kgriffs | (on the wiki) | 16:01 |
alcabrera | sweet - you're ahead of me. :D | 16:02 |
kgriffs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Marconi#Next_meeting | 16:02 |
kgriffs | alcabrera: just need the minutes added now | 16:02 |
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