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| alagalah | Sarob what's going on? Did this meeting get moved ? | 14:32 |
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| alagalah | sarob: Do we have a meeting today? | 14:56 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 3 16:00:31 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 16:00 | |
| adrian_otto | hello everyone | 16:00 |
| roshanagr | Hello | 16:01 |
| muralia | Murali Allada | 16:01 |
| roshanagr | Roshan Agrawal | 16:01 |
| jwforres | hello | 16:01 |
| muralia | Hi | 16:01 |
| funzo | Chris Alfonso, Red Hat | 16:01 |
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| dmakogon_ | Denis Makogon, Mirantis | 16:01 |
| coolsvap-mob | Swapnil Kulkarni | 16:01 |
| datsun180b | Ed Cranford, rax | 16:01 |
| roshanagr | welcome Ed | 16:01 |
| dmakogon_ | datsun180b, hi =) | 16:01 |
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| datsun180b | howdy | 16:01 |
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| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 16:02 |
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| tdeckers | Tom Deckers | 16:03 |
| aratim1 | Arati Mahimane | 16:03 |
| hartsocks | Shawn Hartsock - new (just curious) | 16:03 |
| sapuri | Sandeep Puri | 16:03 |
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| paulmo | Paul Montgomery, Rackspace | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Lots of newcomers. Welcome to you all. Okay, so this meeting I'm going to be a lot less ambitious than last week my goal is to give us a big chunk of time for open discussion. The way I think we can do this is by keeping our Blueprint status relatively short per each, letting the owner of the blueprint give an overview of where we are and next steps. | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | I recognize that last time I made us feel rushed, so we can try to fix that | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Our Agenda | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Working Groups | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | we have two working groups now | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | meeting series are scheduled for each | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | Design meeting schedule published: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/BreakoutMeetings | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | please take a moment to see if you will be participating in design for either of those groups, and attend those design meetings | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | yesterday we had our first in the LP series | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:07 |
| kraman | git-integration series is scheduled for tomorrow | 16:07 |
| kraman | December 4, 2013 1700 UTC | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | kraman: yes, thanks for setting that up! I'm looking forward to that | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | okay, let;s do blueprint status next | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Blueprints: https://launchpad.net/solum/+milestone/milestone-1 | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | before I begin, I wanted to alert you to some adjustments in the milestone targeting | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | I have scoped a limited portion of the CLI to be implemented for milestone-1 | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | and the full CLI can come in a subsequent milestone | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | the idea is that anyone taking an interest in the CLI can subscribe to the narrow scope blueprint too | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | and work together on that | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | we have done the same for the informational blueprints and big epic ones like the Git Integration one | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | note that the dependency graphs needed to be reversed, so I worked on that a bit too | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/api Solum API (aotto) | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | Status: Drafting revisions to definition/spec wiki based on feedback from Solum SFO Community Workshop | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | I did not make much progress last week due to time out for holidays | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | so I don't have a long update for you on this. Please stay tuned as a blueprint subscriber if you are interested in this one. I will post into the whiteboard upon revision of the proposal. | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-minimal-cli Command Line Interface for Solum (devdatta-kulkarni) | 16:11 |
| devkulkarni | Okay. So some updates on this one. | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: tx | 16:11 |
| devkulkarni | As Adrian mentioned, we have drafted a minimal cli. | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | (spec) | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MinimalCLI | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, just the spec | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | its still in the works. please take a look and give any feedback you may have. | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | we do have an active ML thread on this relating to stylistic concerns | 16:12 |
| devkulkarni | yes | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | so if you take an interest we ask that you participate in that thread | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | LMK if you want a pointer to that | 16:12 |
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| devkulkarni | so apart from that I don't have any more update as such at this point. | 16:13 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/020913.html ML Thread for CLI | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks devkulkarni | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-git-pull Pull integration of Solum from an external Git repo (kraman) | 16:13 |
| kraman | Meeting for that is scheduled | 16:14 |
| kraman | and the blueprint has some basic flow as well as unresolved questions. | 16:14 |
| kraman | We should have a more concrete update for this BP in next weeks meeting | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | awesome, I look forward to the design meeting on this. | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | should I proceed? | 16:15 |
| kraman | yes please | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/user-authentication User authentication for incoming requests (gokrokvertskhov) | 16:15 |
| gokrokve | Hi | 16:15 |
| gokrokve | Technically it is mostly done. | 16:15 |
| gokrokve | There is an external issue in keystoneclient which does not work in python33. | 16:16 |
| gokrokve | I am working with keystone team to figure out how to fix this. | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | gokrokve: I saw some discussion on that in #solum yesterday. Thanks for driving this. | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | is there any help you need from other team members to help you, or are you all set? | 16:16 |
| gokrokve | I have some free time, so I can join any other development activities if there are some. | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | gokrokve: !! :-) !! | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/58811 | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | that's the review for gokrokve's auth code | 16:17 |
| paulmo | Could we make sure that NoAuth is not a default setting? | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | please review that so we can get some good feedback to him while we await resolution of the keystone concern that's blocking the py33 gate | 16:18 |
| gokrokve | paulmo: It will break unit tests. | 16:18 |
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| adrian_otto | how to other projects handle this? | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | s/to/do/ | 16:19 |
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| gokrokve | adrian_otto: I can check this. | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | gokrokve: thanks. The nature of paulmo's concern is that auth on is a best practice for security. | 16:20 |
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| * paulmo nods | 16:20 | |
| adrian_otto | paulmo has volunteered to represent us for security matters | 16:20 |
| paulmo | I'm making notes in the review now, sorry to slow down the meeting. :) | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | paulmo: do you want to say a word about that? | 16:20 |
| gokrokve | adrian_otto: Yes I understand this. But when I tried to do this I saw that almost all test cases failed due to 401 error response fron API server. | 16:20 |
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| paulmo | Sure! I just joined the OpenStack Security Group. They have a 52 chapter security guideline set up already. They want a member in each OpenStack project ideally so I'll look towards representing Solum. Others are more than welcome to join! | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks paulmo | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | gokrokve: ok, thanks. Let's be sure to regroup on this. | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | maybe worth a little follow up in open discussion time today | 16:22 |
| gokrokve | Sure. I need to figure out how to fix unit tests before enabling this by default. | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/specify-lang-pack Specify the language pack to be used for app deploy (devdatta-kulkarni) | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | I think this one does not have status to report, right devkulkarni? | 16:22 |
| devkulkarni | Okay, so this bp talks about the ability to specify a language pack as part of app registration. | 16:22 |
| devkulkarni | the status is basically that I will start working on it | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | :-) | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks! | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/logging Logging Architecture (paulmo) | 16:23 |
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| paulmo | Status on logging: | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | this one I am interested to gauge whether we have enough consensus for me to mark this as Approved directionally (pending proposal) | 16:24 |
| paulmo | I joined the OSSG to get consensus from the security minded folks in OpenStack to see if Oslo log changes would make sense. | 16:24 |
| kgriffs | paulmo: +1 | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | does anyone object to the idea of logging some additional metadata with our oslo logging calls so that it would be possible to use downstream middleware later to filter out PII and secrets that we know might show up in logs? | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | for example, if we throw an exception, we don't want people's email addresses to show up in log files. | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | so we might use a hint in the logging call to identify where that data might appear. Do I understand this right, paulmo? | 16:26 |
| paulmo | Yes, Clayton actually implemented some of this using base Oslo Log. He uses the extra field to add "private" data. | 16:27 |
| devkulkarni | sounds like a good interim step.. no objections from me. | 16:27 |
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| paulmo | I suspect that most folks agree but the timing is the concern with the quick speed we are running at. | 16:27 |
| datsun180b | I've seen a transaction-id or request-id pattern before for tracking these kinds of things in logs | 16:27 |
| coolsvap | its a necessity i think to control what we log in terms of user private data | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | I though Clayton's approach was a good compromise that suit our interests to leverage Oslo code while giving us the ability to be more secure later. | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | s/though/thought/ | 16:28 |
| paulmo | I also found that there are special Gerrit review tags for security and I'm looking for the OpenStack comment style to indicate possible security issues if the developer doesn't have time to fix it immediately but wants to mark it to review later. | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | okay, so in the absense of any objections, I'm planning to approve the diection of this blueprint, and we can collaborate on the details of the implementation before we mark the design as approved. | 16:29 |
| tomblank | coolsvap: i agree and we should design for this from the beginning even though we may phase the implementation | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed to approve direction of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/logging | 16:29 |
| paulmo | Yay! | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | anything more on this one? | 16:29 |
| coolsvap | +1 | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | ok, next | 16:30 |
| paulmo | No, I'm getting up to speed with the security group and willhave more next week I'm sure. | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-zuul-integration Solum integration with Zuul (devdatta-kulkarni) | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | this is on here as an FYI, brand new | 16:30 |
| devkulkarni | Okay, so I drafted this blueprint based on what we have discussed about Zuul. | 16:30 |
| devkulkarni | I am not familiar with it that much. | 16:31 |
| kraman | is this part of milestone-1 ? | 16:31 |
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| devkulkarni | kraman: I had the same question | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: it is investigational in nature, so yes. | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | we can decide to table it if we judge this is too early | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | but I think we should base a decision from a well informed perspective | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | so although the priority is set Low on this, I did target it for M1 | 16:32 |
| kraman | I think we need to look a bit more into the push side of git0integration before we can investigate this | 16:32 |
| rajdeep | i have one question on zuul integration | 16:32 |
| kraman | If we can git through most of git-pull integration, I would not mind looking into this BP | 16:32 |
| devkulkarni | or, does push git integration needs to first consider zuul? | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | kraman: perhaps we should be looking at those concurrently | 16:32 |
| devkulkarni | rajdeep:? | 16:33 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: sure, we can look at those to concurrently | 16:33 |
| rajdeep | very few developers would know about this outside openstack community | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | so my thinking on this is if we can afford to spend some cycles on understanding our options, then we can make a well informed choice on how to implement the various Git related features | 16:34 |
| devkulkarni | developers won't be exposed to zuul directly imo | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | and we should contrast this among other options too | 16:34 |
| devkulkarni | Solum's 'push based git integration' feature should/could leverage zuul setup, if possible (that is the idea) | 16:34 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: +1 | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | so this might make a good etherpad discussion | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | where we list a bunch of possibilities, and work to pro/con each | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | but I think we have some homework to do leading up to that, right? | 16:35 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yes we do. | 16:35 |
| devkulkarni | and +1 for etherpad discussion | 16:36 |
| kraman | yes, I need to read up on Zuul and other OpenStack tools | 16:36 |
| funzo | The git integration shouldn't be dependent upon external services should it? | 16:36 |
| funzo | I mean as an option it could integrate Zuul, but you wouldn't want someone to have to use it | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | funzo: like github? | 16:36 |
| kraman | funzo: the git-push BP may be able to leverage existing OS tools | 16:36 |
| devkulkarni | funzo: are you thinking zuul as an external service? | 16:36 |
| coolsvap | #link http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | coolsvap: thanks for the link! | 16:37 |
| funzo | devkulkarni: adrian_otto: I was just thinking about when developers don't have external connectivity how they would complete a git flow | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | I think they would need to use push in that case | 16:37 |
| funzo | ok, I missed the idea that it would be a secondary flow or optional | 16:37 |
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| funzo | carry on | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | but whatever workflow/job solution we use, it will need to be tightly integrated | 16:38 |
| funzo | kk | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | so that it acts like a "part" of Solum | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | maybe more on this tomorrow | 16:38 |
| rajdeep_ | is gerrit also part of the flow? | 16:38 |
| kraman | yes, i have an item in agenda to discuss existing tools | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | rajdeep_: good question, not in milestone-1 | 16:39 |
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| rajdeep_ | ok | 16:39 |
| funzo | rajdeep_: since you can start the push with a git review, it seems like it wouldn't be terribly difficult to have that as an option | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | but we will have a CI flow in a subsequent milestone | 16:39 |
| devkulkarni | kraman: for tomorrow, we are going to target just the solum-git-pull, or both pull and push? | 16:39 |
| rajdeep_ | gerrit is pretty neat | 16:39 |
| rajdeep_ | but keep it optional | 16:39 |
| kraman | devkulkarni: just pull | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so that brings us to a nice chunk of time for open discussion today. | 16:40 |
| kraman | devkulkarni: I would like to get all tasks for Milestone-1 started before we start looking at push | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:40 |
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| muralia | adrian_otto: should the api worker architecture blueprint be included in milestone1? | 16:40 |
| muralia | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/api-worker-architecture | 16:40 |
| devkulkarni | kraman: ok. in that case in the existing tools item on agenda, we won't be discussing/bringing up zuul I suppose | 16:40 |
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| funzo | Yesterday during the lp workgroup discussion, we said details of the blueprints should stay in the blueprints and not on the wiki. That should be the case for all the blueprint details, correcdt? | 16:41 |
| kraman | devkulkarni: probably not | 16:41 |
| funzo | it's worth noting here so that blueprint owners that weren't in that lp workgroup know to be consistent about it | 16:41 |
| devkulkarni | kraman: thanks! | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | muralia: yes, we should probably scope that in | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | at least for some of the basics | 16:42 |
| devkulkarni | funzo: was that decided? I personally like to keep things in the whiteboard section of BP itself. | 16:42 |
| muralia | ok. thanks. | 16:42 |
| funzo | devkulkarni: I thought that was the decision, maybe I misunderstood | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | funzo the whitebard may actually have a length lmit | 16:43 |
| roshanagr | funzo: if the content is more detailed, then wiki page is a better location | 16:43 |
| funzo | kk | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | usually the part on the BP itself is summary in nature, and the implementation details are supplied separately, in reviews or other materials, including Wiki, etc. | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | you can ask team members to bump the whiteboard in some way when they edit external resources | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | that way anyone subscribed keeps up to date with those details | 16:44 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yeah, I like that when you update the BP subscribers are notified. | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | definitely my favorite feature of Lauchpad | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | let's just be cautious not to rely too much on that facility, and use the ML too | 16:46 |
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| adrian_otto | as that's where we are going to get a diverse base of input | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni | makes sense | 16:46 |
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| adrian_otto | gokrokve: I am concerned about your review a little bit, as it will time out after a week of inactivity | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | there is a way to revive one I think | 16:48 |
| gokrokve | adrian_otto: I can add new patch set in order to update it. | 16:48 |
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| adrian_otto | so as you get good feedback from reviewers, continue to iterate | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | anything I can be doing to help you all more? | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | one idea was a getting started "new contributor" wiki page | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | that details how to get involved and where we can use more participation | 16:50 |
| gokrokve | adrian_otto: I think I can fix test cases to not fail with exception on python33 but just do not execute them in case of import exception. | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | I have seen a nice boost in the number of code reviews, so thanks everyone for stepping up to that challenge. | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | gokrokve: wouldn't that weaken the value of the unit tests as py33 becomes our primary focus? | 16:51 |
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| gokrokve | adrian_otto: No. It will be a workaround which will work only in case of import failure. | 16:52 |
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| adrian_otto | actually, that might save me time on code review duty | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | as I look at a lot of patches that fail for that reason | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | so I'm open to trying that to see how it works. I'm also interested in input from other team members for additional perspective. | 16:53 |
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| paulczar | adrian / gokrokve: there is a button to revive reviews that have been abandoned from age … but agree better not to let it age out in the first place. | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | paulczar: right, if we are waiting a week between revisions or abandonment, then we probably have something assigned to someone who is too busy. | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any more for today, or would you like to wind down? | 16:56 |
| paulczar | I would love to get some feedback on the vagrant environment I'm building - https://github.com/rackerlabs/vagrant-solum-dev | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | paulczar: I am interested in a compare/contrast on using devstack vs. vagrant | 16:56 |
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| devkulkarni | fyi, a bp for this has been created as well: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/vagrant-based-solum-local-development-environment | 16:57 |
| paulczar | the vagrant file itself is a little long winded but if you run it with `SOLUM=~/dev/solum vagrant up devstack` it will bring up a vagrant box, map your solum directory to /solum on it, and add the solum devstack integration and then bring up solum. | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so they are complimentary? | 16:58 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: yes | 16:58 |
| coolsvap | paulczar: I will check that tonight... | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | cool, I am checking to be sure I subscribe to that one! | 16:58 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: vagrant allows you to spin up a Vm and run commands within it | 16:58 |
| coolsvap | nice to bring that up | 16:58 |
| kraman | in this case we will be running devstack | 16:58 |
| paulczar | also `TESTS=true SOLUM=~/dev/solum vagrant up api` will spin up a box with all the bits needed to do run all the tests ( and will run them for you ) | 16:59 |
| kraman | im looking into integration with fedora | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so we are coming to the end of our time for today. | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | we can continue discussion in #solum | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today. I felt that this one went a lot smoother than last week. | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 3 17:00:03 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2013/solum_team_meeting.2013-12-03-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2013/solum_team_meeting.2013-12-03-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2013/solum_team_meeting.2013-12-03-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| ativelkov | Hi there! Any Moranoers here today? | 17:02 |
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| dteselkin | Hi! | 17:03 |
| katyafervent | Hello all! | 17:03 |
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| tsufiev | hello | 17:03 |
| ativelkov | Good, let's start the meeting then | 17:03 |
| katyafervent | Let's discuss what we've done and what we will plan to do! | 17:03 |
| ativelkov | #startmeeting murano | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 3 17:03:56 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ativelkov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:04 |
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| ativelkov | So, let's follow the agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:05 |
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| ativelkov | The only action item which we had was on sergmelikyan about the screencast for the release 0.3 | 17:06 |
| ativelkov | Serge, do you have any progress on that? Did you speak to Nick Chase about it? | 17:06 |
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| ativelkov | sergmelikyan, are you here? | 17:08 |
| katyafervent | ativelkov, as far as I know all slides are ready and video also almost done | 17:08 |
| katyafervent | so at the end of the week we will have screencast | 17:08 |
| ativelkov | Ok, seems like Serge is away, katyafervent thanks for update | 17:08 |
| ativelkov | #info slides for 0.3 presentation are ready, video is coming later this week | 17:09 |
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| ativelkov | The question on elaboration with Nick still remains, but that can be answered only by Serge, probably | 17:09 |
| ativelkov | #topic Release 0.4 status | 17:10 |
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| ativelkov | Let's move on: tsufiev, what are the news on 0.4? | 17:10 |
| tsufiev | 1. Considering Metadata Repository, we're currently fixing bugs in Admin WebUI | 17:11 |
| tsufiev | 2. Also two problems recently arised in 0.4 due to Advanced Networking implementation | 17:12 |
| katyafervent | But all functional for Metadata Repository usage from UI is totally implemented | 17:12 |
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| ativelkov | #info all the functionality for Metadata Repository usage from UI is implemented | 17:12 |
| tsufiev | a. One is related to Security Groups and dynamically generated CIDRs | 17:12 |
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| tsufiev | b. The second is related to MS SQL Cluster - its IPs validation and, again, dynamically generated CIDRs | 17:13 |
| tsufiev | I'm currently implementing fix for (b), planning to finish tomorrow | 17:13 |
| tsufiev | ativelkov: I think you can tell us more on (a) | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | #info: New major issues in 0.4: security group scopes do not match new generated subnet ciders, MS SQL Cluster IP address does not match is as well | 17:14 |
| tsufiev | that's all yet to be fixed in 0.4 | 17:14 |
| ativelkov | Yes, this is also in progress, also is likely to be fixed by tomorrow | 17:14 |
| ativelkov | The fix itself is ready, I just have to update all he workflows to make use of the new steps which fix the problem | 17:15 |
| ativelkov | tsufiev: do we have bug reports on launchpad for these issues? | 17:15 |
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| tsufiev | ativelkov: I think no, should make new tickets | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | Yes, please do that | 17:16 |
| tsufiev | ok | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | #action tsufiev to create launchpad issues to track bugs with security group cords and MS SQL cluster IP | 17:16 |
| katyafervent | And for now we need to fill up documentation with Murano Repository information | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | Same should probably go for advanced networking: we need to update the blueprint | 17:17 |
| ativelkov | I'll do it | 17:17 |
| katyafervent | I am started to work on api specification transtation to docbook | 17:17 |
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| ativelkov | #action tsufiev to implement the subnet detection routing in the dashboard | 17:17 |
| ativelkov | #action ativelkov to fix the security groups cidd assignment | 17:18 |
| ativelkov | #action ativelkov to update the blueprint on advanced networking | 17:18 |
| ativelkov | #action katyafervent to transfer api spec to docbook | 17:18 |
| ativelkov | Anything else on 0.4? | 17:19 |
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| tsufiev | we should document advanced networking also | 17:20 |
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| ativelkov | I've just mentioned that, see above | 17:20 |
| tsufiev | there are some configuration details which are not obvious | 17:20 |
| tsufiev | ok | 17:20 |
| ativelkov | Ok, moving to the next topic | 17:20 |
| ativelkov | #topic Neutron LBaaS news | 17:21 |
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| ativelkov | sergmelikyan: are you still away? | 17:21 |
| ativelkov | Probably yes. So, I'll give an update myself, as I know some details on the topic | 17:21 |
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| ativelkov | As far as I know, sergmelikyan has implemented the LoadBalancer Murano Service using the Neutron LBaaS underneath, according to the proposal published earlier | 17:22 |
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| ativelkov | The pull request can be found here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59705/ | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | There are some -1's there, so this is work in progress | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | #info elastic apps transition to OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer is in progress, code is being review | 17:24 |
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| ativelkov | Also, the new service will require to have LB IP assigned by the user | 17:25 |
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| ativelkov | And this faces the same problem as earlier mentioned issue with MS SQL cluster IP: we'll need to assign the IP which is located in the proper subnet, while the actual subnet cidd is not know at the time when the environment is being composed | 17:26 |
| ativelkov | So, this issue will be fixed by the same approach as we use for MS SQL (i.e. the fix which is being developed by tsufiev) | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | #info final implementation of LoadBalancer service depends on the fix by tsufiev | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | That's all I know on this topic ) | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | What's next? DSL and Metadata description? | 17:28 |
| ativelkov | igormarnat_: well, we don't have this in agenda for today ) Probably because we don't have any final vision yet | 17:29 |
| ativelkov | The last topic in agenda is "Security Groups issue" but we have actually covered it when discussed current 0.4 status | 17:29 |
| ativelkov | so, we can move to the open discussion :) | 17:30 |
| ativelkov | #topic Open Discussion | 17:30 |
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| igormarnat_ | Ok, what is the status of DSL and Metadata description? :) | 17:30 |
| igormarnat_ | Any etherpad? | 17:30 |
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| ativelkov | There is a first draft of the etherpad (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MuranoMetadata) but it is not complete yet, as the workflow definition language is still being discussed | 17:31 |
| ativelkov | We have planned an offline design session for the workflow definiiotn on this Thursday | 17:32 |
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| ativelkov | The results will be reflected in this ether pad and will be suggested for further online discussion | 17:33 |
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| igormarnat_ | Ok. Does it make sense to keep the workflow definition in separated etherpad,, given that this is not a metadata (which current etherpad is actually about)? | 17:33 |
| ativelkov | Actually, workflows are part of the metadata | 17:34 |
| ativelkov | and eventually they can be even exilicitly included into the metadata manifest file | 17:34 |
| ativelkov | We just propose to split them in sake of simplicity and readability, as they most likely will be long | 17:35 |
| igormarnat_ | Ok, so we have couple of days to complete the exercise and take a look at the draft of the DSL and Metadata proposal? | 17:35 |
| ativelkov | but in case of simple workflows, the developer may combine both app definitions and workflows in the same file - altogether with the manifest itself | 17:35 |
| ativelkov | Yes | 17:35 |
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| ativelkov | #info DSL definition and workflow spec to be completed in several days | 17:38 |
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| ativelkov | Any other questions? | 17:38 |
| ativelkov | If not, then seems we are done | 17:38 |
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| ativelkov | Thanks for joining | 17:39 |
| ativelkov | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 3 17:39:41 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-12-03-17.03.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-12-03-17.03.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2013/murano.2013-12-03-17.03.log.html | 17:39 |
| katyafervent | Thanks everyone | 17:39 |
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| pballand | hello, anyone around for the Congress meeting? | 18:00 |
| thinrichs | I am. | 18:00 |
| pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 3 18:02:03 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
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| pballand | Should be a quick meeting this week | 18:02 |
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| pballand | #topic Action Items Review | 18:02 |
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| pballand | From the last meeting, thinrichs was going to work on a couple use cases | 18:03 |
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| pballand | thinrichs: did you have anything to share? | 18:03 |
| thinrichs | Yeah--I've got some use cases. | 18:03 |
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| thinrichs | 1. Every network connected to a VM must be either public or private and owned by someone in the same group as the VM's owner. | 18:04 |
| thinrichs | 2. Every time a vulnerability scanner reports a vulnerability, disconnect the VM from the network, patch the vulnerability, and reconnect. | 18:04 |
| thinrichs | 3. Allow TCP port 80 communication between Group-A-endpoints and Group-B-endpoints. | 18:04 |
| pballand | so 1. is what we've been talking about previously, and 3. sounds a lot like what the neutron policy subgroup is working on | 18:05 |
| pballand | these make sense to me - and since it's just the 2 of us, that's a quorum :) | 18:06 |
| pballand | I'll focus on trying to create demos for each of these (I know that 1. is already there) | 18:07 |
| pballand | #topic open disucssion | 18:07 |
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| pballand | anything else we should talk about today? | 18:08 |
| thinrichs | Not from me. | 18:08 |
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| pballand | ok, until we get more involvement, I propose we make this meeting every other week, thoughts? | 18:09 |
| thinrichs | Works for me. | 18:09 |
| pballand | #agreed Next meeting will be 12/17, and every other week after that | 18:09 |
| pballand | sounds good - lets get back to work :) | 18:09 |
| pballand | #endmeeting | 18:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 3 18:10:20 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:10 |
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| lifeless | morning! | 18:59 |
| tzumainn | hiya | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 18:59 |
| pblaho | hi | 18:59 |
| SpamapS | ahoy! | 18:59 |
| matty_dubs | o\ | 19:00 |
| matty_dubs | ... I'm not very good at this. | 19:00 |
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| jtomasek | hey | 19:00 |
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| morazi | hi | 19:00 |
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| jdob | howdy | 19:01 |
| pblaho | jdob: or evening! :-) | 19:02 |
| lifeless | :) | 19:02 |
| markmc | hey | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 3 19:02:33 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:02 | |
| * markmc ~10% here | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:02 |
| lifeless | #topic agenda | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:02 | |
| jomara | hello there | 19:02 |
| lifeless | bugs | 19:02 |
| lifeless | reviews | 19:02 |
| lifeless | Projects needing releases | 19:02 |
| lifeless | CD Cloud status | 19:02 |
| lifeless | CI virtualized testing progress | 19:02 |
| lifeless | Insert one-off agenda items here | 19:03 |
| lifeless | open discussion | 19:03 |
| lifeless | (I forgot to remove summit wrap-up from the agenda list - oops) | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #topic bugs | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:03 | |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui | 19:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:03 |
| marios_ | evening all, apologies baby a bit poorly tonight so not paying too much attention to irc | 19:03 |
| * coolsvap is away: Away!!! | 19:03 | |
| lifeless | marios_: :( hope baby feels better soon | 19:04 |
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| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1254246 | 19:05 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1254555 | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: those are making progress upstream from what I see. | 19:05 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1252975 | 19:05 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: is there a bug for dnsmasq? | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: we have regressed _a lot_ from where we were when we found those | 19:05 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: no I just made a trello card a bit ago, probably deserves a bug now though. | 19:06 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ok, please do | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: starting to feel like we're getting deep in the entropy... | 19:06 |
| lifeless | so the third critical is fix committed and roman has volunteered to cut releases this week | 19:06 |
| lifeless | Untriaged bugs - we have one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1256982 | 19:06 |
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| lifeless | which is massively better than before we started paying attention | 19:07 |
| lifeless | and only 12 hours old or something, so I think we can accept that ;) - but please do keep up the triage work! | 19:07 |
| lifeless | any other bugs discussion ? | 19:08 |
| lifeless | nope, moving on | 19:08 |
| lifeless | #topic reviews | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:08 | |
| lifeless | I was going to send out my monthly core review yesterday but the day exploded | 19:09 |
| lifeless | I will get that done today | 19:09 |
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| lifeless | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:09 |
| lifeless | 19:09 | |
| lifeless | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 19:09 |
| lifeless | Median wait time: 0 days, 7 hours, 45 minutes | 19:09 |
| lifeless | 3rd quartile wait time: 1 days, 3 hours, 39 minutes | 19:09 |
| lifeless | That 3rd quartile means there is at least one patch that doesn't have a -1 or -2 thats been there more than a day | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | I've been basically absent from reviews save for the ones I'm already involved in for the last week or so. | 19:10 |
| tzumainn | lifeless, the thanksgiving holiday might have affected that | 19:10 |
| lifeless | tzumainn: it's over since Monday no? | 19:10 |
| tzumainn | oh, sorry, I thought that was since last tuesday | 19:10 |
| tzumainn | my bad! | 19:10 |
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| slagle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59299/ | 19:11 |
| slagle | must be that one | 19:11 |
| lifeless | tzumainn: I may be wrong, I don't know US holidays. | 19:11 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: when did Thanksgiving finish ? | 19:11 |
| slagle | which, i think folks are just waiting on, given the discussion on the topic in the other review | 19:11 |
| tzumainn | sorry, I thought you meant that patch reviews were a little slow over the past week | 19:11 |
| lifeless | slagle: yeah, I think thats the cause, which will happen from time to time; it would be nice to have the stats take that into account | 19:12 |
| lifeless | slagle: I'll chat with russellb and see if thats doable | 19:12 |
| slagle | yea, or switch that to WIP | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: yesterday | 19:12 |
| lifeless | slagle: also your patch which is +1'd but not +2'd | 19:13 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: as in mon was holiday tuesday work day? | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | no | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | as in last Thursday/Friday were a holiday | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | followed by weekend | 19:13 |
| dprince | lifeless: I think what is happening here is your -2 is warding people off of reviewing my series | 19:13 |
| slagle | lifeless: which one is that? the dib element? | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | yesterday was the first day back for people | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | and a lot of people (myself included) took days before Thursday off as part of it. | 19:14 |
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| lifeless | slagle: yes | 19:14 |
| lifeless | dprince: it does block the series yes; the bottom patch should be reviewable, but I do see the discussion about is-it-needed which takes the rest of the series into account | 19:15 |
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| lifeless | ok, so it seems that we're pretty healthy review wise; any other review business to attend to ? | 19:15 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless to do core review email asap | 19:16 |
| dprince | lifeless: I don't mind the debate. In my experience a -2 on a patch/branch in many cases gets you less comments | 19:16 |
| tzumainn | lifeless, it might be also worth mentioning that a lot of the developers working on tuskar-ui have been working and reviewing in the horizon arena | 19:16 |
| lifeless | tzumainn: good stuff! | 19:16 |
| lifeless | #note 08:16 < tzumainn> lifeless, it might be also worth mentioning that a lot of the developers working on tuskar-ui have been working and reviewing in the horizon arena | 19:16 |
| lifeless | ok, moving on | 19:18 |
| lifeless | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:18 | |
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| lifeless | Many of our projects do, and roman (who isn't here) has volunteered. | 19:19 |
| lifeless | So, unless someone wants to debate doing that; we can move on... | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | seconded.. move on. :) | 19:19 |
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| lifeless | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:20 | |
| lifeless | pleia2: your fav time, conflicts with -infra meeting :) | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | I don't have any updates right now, holiday put a crimp in things | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | saw some changes from derekh come in, dprince any updates? | 19:21 |
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| pleia2 | 11:24:53 < dprince> pleia2: last week was mostly a holiday, so not much CI stuff yet, Derek has made progress on the gearman eleements though. Soon I plan on tackling making TOCI use the devtest scripts... | 19:25 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: I think we can move on :) | 19:25 |
| lifeless | okydoky | 19:25 |
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| lifeless | We should add a section on the TripleOCloud status! | 19:25 |
| lifeless | #topic TripleOCloud status | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TripleOCloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:25 | |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I believe you're most up to date :0 | 19:25 |
| SpamapS | Right | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | So somewhere between a reboot and other things I don't have all the information on, basically everything broke. | 19:26 |
| lifeless | The reboot was because ml4xcore wedged on rmmod | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | I'm currently tracking down timeouts for things booting to tftp not working after DHCP. Also dnsmasq was segfaulting, but I think that may have been a bug in dnsmasq+neutron which is fixed in both in newer versions. | 19:27 |
| lifeless | left it for hours | 19:27 |
| lifeless | how would neutron make dnsmasq segfault? | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: by putting an invalid format in the configuration | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | Dec 3 19:28:17 undercloud-notcompute-jws3awlsb2kh dnsmasq[14821]: bad IP address at line 11 of /var/run/neutron/dhcp/e85b44c7-1136-4217-954e-cdf0acdddfe1/opts | 19:28 |
| lifeless | oh, nasty. | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: that is what is being printed now, instead of segfault | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | I think | 19:28 |
| lifeless | so we need to upgrade Neutron on the undercloud now? | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | 90% sure | 19:28 |
| dkehn | bad IP address and you a segfault, ouch | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: well I upgraded dnsmasq, and that has stopped the segfaults, but it still crashed for some unknown reason last night while tripleo-cd was running | 19:29 |
| lifeless | wow | 19:29 |
| lifeless | tag:ece4c8aa-15c9-4f6b-8c42-7d4e285734bf,option:server-ip-address, | 19:29 |
| lifeless | thats the line in question | 19:29 |
| dkehn | so no IP address | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I think it is actually the line that has no newline on it | 19:29 |
| lifeless | its missing an ip after the tag | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | but I could be wrong | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | I haven't done deep analysis | 19:30 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: both are bugged | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | just bisecting things right now | 19:30 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: you're right on it, this is a bug in the neutron tag code; for some reason we have a dhcpopt where the value is invalid, and neutron is still writing it out | 19:30 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: this suggests that we need validation there | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | that may have been something that was broken mid-reboot | 19:30 |
| lifeless | nah | 19:30 |
| lifeless | neutron port-show ece4c8aa-15c9-4f6b-8c42-7d4e285734bf | 19:31 |
| dkehn | Hrm, the db is setup for NON NULL so thats interesting | 19:31 |
| lifeless | you can see the options are blank | 19:31 |
| lifeless | dkehn: I think they are empty strings | 19:31 |
| dkehn | yah | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: could this also be why I can't reach 10.10.16.172 ? | 19:31 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: no | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | could be that causes issues with l3 agent too? | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | wait no we don't do that on undercloud | 19:32 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: oh, possibly; lets -> #tripleo for that | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | yeah | 19:32 |
| lifeless | we're in the weeds | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | So anyway, firedrill under way.. | 19:32 |
| lifeless | short story, CD cloud broke, bad booboo; bugs being uncovered. | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | once that is solved.. | 19:32 |
| lifeless | ok | 19:32 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 19:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:32 | |
| jtomasek | jcoufal asked me to mention the new wireframes for Deployment and Resource Management. | 19:33 |
| jtomasek | So here are the askbot links: | 19:33 |
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| jtomasek | http://ask-openstackux.rhcloud.com/question/95/tripleo-ui-resource-management/ | 19:33 |
| jtomasek | http://ask-openstackux.rhcloud.com/question/96/tripleo-ui-deployment-management/ | 19:33 |
| SpamapS | How come those are discussed on askbot and not the mailing list? | 19:33 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: oh no you didn't | 19:33 |
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| jtomasek | SpamapS: He also sent an email to mailing list, but UX stuff is prefered to discuss on askbot | 19:34 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: thats a long running debate about needed facilities | 19:34 |
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| tzumainn | so I sent a reply asking for a list of requirements driving the wireframes - I feel like that would help me best understand/evaluate what's going on - am I the only one that feels that way? | 19:35 |
| lifeless | tzumainn: I think thats a good thing to have yes; we have that thread where we started to get into such things | 19:35 |
| matty_dubs | tzumainn: I don't think you're the only one. | 19:36 |
| jomara | +1 to that | 19:36 |
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| matty_dubs | (That's not to say I take issue with anything in them, just that I could use some more context/background.) | 19:38 |
| matty_dubs | (so as to fully appreciate them) | 19:38 |
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| dkehn | SpamapS: will get with you later on the empty string, may be a bug and I think I can fix it in neutron | 19:41 |
| SpamapS | dkehn: we should probably just try pulling the latest neutron | 19:41 |
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| dkehn | SpamapS: true, but I'm want to verufy that it can happen, which I think it can | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | dkehn: ok I won't touch it | 19:42 |
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| lifeless | dkehn: is it alright if we update that port so we can resume deploying ? | 19:43 |
| lifeless | dkehn: SpamapS: I suggest spamaps file a bug for this | 19:43 |
| dkehn | lifeless: please do I've got all I need to reproduce | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | I think this is all weedy stuff for #tripleo | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | but yes, bug I will file | 19:43 |
| lifeless | ok, so | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | and I'll dump the database | 19:43 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 19:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 3 19:43:55 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-12-03-19.02.html | 19:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-12-03-19.02.txt | 19:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-12-03-19.02.log.html | 19:44 |
| dkehn | SpamapS: hold off until I test a bit to prove it | 19:44 |
| dkehn | in the neutron | 19:44 |
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