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| baoli | #startmeeting | 13:02 |
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| openstack | baoli: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 13:02 |
| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 13:03:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:03 |
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| baoli | Hi | 13:03 |
| sadasu | Hello | 13:03 |
| irenab | hi | 13:03 |
| irenab | rkukura said he maybe late ~10 mins | 13:04 |
| baoli | ok | 13:04 |
| irenab | baoli: can we discuss you wiki page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-neutron-sriov? | 13:04 |
| baoli | sure. | 13:05 |
| baoli | I just came in and didn't have time looking at your comments | 13:05 |
| irenab | I have entered comments with irenab | 13:05 |
| irenab | first for vif_type section | 13:06 |
| baoli | Ok I just saw that. I was about to send you an email asking your about the new vif type | 13:06 |
| baoli | Sounds like that you do need a new vif type like VIF_TYPE_HW_VEB | 13:07 |
| irenab | currently, we use VIF_HOSTDEV, it is defined on Plugin level | 13:07 |
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| irenab | but sice need to add it to the common definitions anyway, maybe VIF_HW_VEB | 13:07 |
| baoli | I'll add that, and keep 802_1GBG as it is | 13:08 |
| irenab | ^since | 13:08 |
| irenab | yes, QBG is another case, but seems currently no one supports it with neutron | 13:09 |
| irenab | Is you bp approved? | 13:09 |
| irenab | my bp is blocked on discussion | 13:10 |
| baoli | I went through the email thread between Yunhong and you. Seems like no compromise can be easily reached even though we'd like to get something done in Icehouse | 13:10 |
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| irenab | I thought that for short term it can be OK to go without PCI flavors | 13:12 |
| baoli | That's what I thought too, especially it's not approved yet and major design issues raised but not addressed | 13:12 |
| baoli | Not sure if my bp is going to be approved | 13:13 |
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| irenab | what is required in order to approve it? | 13:14 |
| baoli | I am not exactly sure. definitely it needs a core to ok it. I had John Garbutt as approver of mine | 13:15 |
| baoli | I think that at least we can get something working, and change its implementation as the design gets mature with more input from people | 13:16 |
| irenab | if new bp that Yunhong registered is approved, we have all the pieces? | 13:16 |
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| baoli | He said he was not optimistic (about the bp? or about the coding? I'm not exactly sure) in one of our exchanges. | 13:17 |
| sadasu | baoli, irenab: what discussion between irenab and Yunhong are you talking about? | 13:18 |
| baoli | sadasu, there is an email thread in the openstack alias I started a while back | 13:18 |
| sadasu | irenabb, Yonghong discussion/email thread I mean? | 13:18 |
| sadasu | ok...I didn't see anything yesterday, so was wondering. | 13:19 |
| baoli | sorry, not on the alias. But you are one of the receipients | 13:19 |
| irenab | sadasu: he sent questions, I just went through baoli's wiki. I thought we have all pieces at place .... | 13:20 |
| sadasu | baoli: ok...I saw those | 13:20 |
| irenab | I have also question regarding if normal user may set vnict_type via neutron port is use case you need or its OK that only admin user can do it? | 13:21 |
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| sadasu | ireanb: ok... | 13:21 |
| sadasu | irenab: yes, I think that question still remains...I think it should have the same access as a nova boot command | 13:22 |
| sadasu | and with that reasoning should be all allowed even for non-admin access | 13:22 |
| baoli | Irenab, how do we define a normal user? | 13:22 |
| irenab | I am not sure, the one that is not admin ... | 13:23 |
| baoli | Ok, then, the notion that a normal user has no notion of SRIOV ports seems to be in the way of allowing him/her to request one | 13:24 |
| baoli | Then a normal user would say I need a fast port? And what does a fast port mean? As a normal user of wirelese, do we know hat wifi means? | 13:25 |
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| baoli | The question is what level of API abstraction is needed for a normal user to incorporate SRIOV | 13:26 |
| irenab | baoli: just to be sure, you say that normal user should understand "flavors", not specific vnic_types? | 13:27 |
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| baoli | irenab, no. | 13:27 |
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| sadasu | from our earlier discussion with John Garbutt, it appears that if we let the user pick based on more friendlier terms, it can be a non-admin user input | 13:28 |
| baoli | My question is should a normal user has the notion of SRIOV ports | 13:28 |
| irenab | normal user is the one who asks for VM, right? | 13:28 |
| sadasu | irenab: no flavors....just terms like "fast_no_migration", "fast_with_migration" for example | 13:28 |
| baoli | yes | 13:29 |
| irenab | sadasu: yes, but this will be via nova api, and nova will go to neutron and create port. nova is admin user | 13:29 |
| sadasu | or the user can call create port first too | 13:30 |
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| irenab | so the question is if normal user will create be allowed to create neutron port and ask for vnic_type | 13:30 |
| baoli | Help me understand this: a normal user can issue 'nova boot ..... --nic vnic-type=direct | 13:30 |
| baoli | but he can not: neutron port-create .... vnic-type=direct, and nova boot ... --nic port-id=<port-uuid> | 13:31 |
| irenab | probably with some vnic-type=fast_with_migration | 13:31 |
| irenab | on nova | 13:31 |
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| baoli | what is fast_with_migration | 13:32 |
| sadasu | macvtap | 13:32 |
| baoli | is it simply the naming? | 13:33 |
| sadasu | yes | 13:33 |
| irenab | 'nova boot ..... --nic vnic-type=fast_with_migration' | 13:33 |
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| irenab | yes | 13:33 |
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| rkukura_ | finally here - sorry I'm late | 13:33 |
| baoli | so it's not a issue of normal user using vnic-type, but the naming of the available vnic types? | 13:33 |
| irenab | hi | 13:33 |
| baoli | rkukura, hi | 13:33 |
| sadasu | welcome rkukura. we are discussiong vnic_types here | 13:34 |
| irenab | rkukura: trying to close if vnic_type should be exposed to normal user | 13:34 |
| baoli | rkukura, how do you define a normal user? | 13:34 |
| rkukura_ | A normal user is a tenant of the (private or public) cloud, as opposed to an administrator/provider of the cloud | 13:35 |
| baoli | does each tenant have an admin role? | 13:36 |
| rkukura_ | No, tenants are usually not given any unnecessary privileges that would allow them to influence other tenants | 13:36 |
| baoli | a normal user can issue 'nova boot ..... --nic vnic-type=direct | 13:37 |
| baoli | but he can not: neutron port-create .... vnic-type=direct, and nova boot ... --nic port-id=<port-uuid> | 13:37 |
| baoli | I was asking that question earlier | 13:38 |
| rkukura_ | baoli: Why could the normal user not do the port-create in this case? | 13:38 |
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| rkukura_ | Is this with vnic-type requiring admin privileges? | 13:39 |
| baoli | rkukura, are we talking about that normal user is not allowed to use vnic-type in the port-create command? | 13:39 |
| irenab | baoli: I think John has strong objections to --nic vnic_type option | 13:39 |
| baoli | irenab, ok, then the question is does a normal have the notion of SRIOV ports, and there he/she can request them | 13:40 |
| baoli | ^normal user | 13:40 |
| irenab | based on earlier discussion with rkukura, we need to be quite confident what to expose with API, because it is not easiliy changed in the future | 13:40 |
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| rkukura_ | Seems to me a normal user should have visibility/control over what their VM sees, but not how that is accomplished internally to the cloud | 13:41 |
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| irenab | rkukura: so you are in favor of axposing vnic_type to the user, right? | 13:42 |
| rkukura_ | irenab: Who is it that objects to the --nic vnic_type nova option? | 13:42 |
| irenab | rkukura: requested network | 13:43 |
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| rkukura_ | irenab: Not to be intentionally indecisive on this, but I really don't have a strong opinion. I'd probably prefer to see nova handle the user's choice of how the interface looks to the VM, which would mean neutron could require nova to set this as admin. | 13:45 |
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| sadasu | rkukura: I think irenab was referring to an earlier comment from John Garbutt, a nova core | 13:45 |
| sadasu | he was briefly involved in this effort | 13:45 |
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| sadasu | this was a few weeks ago | 13:46 |
| baoli | so is it ok for an admin to do port-create --vnic-type? | 13:46 |
| sadasu | to summarize I think, it was ok to use --nic vnic_type as long as vnic_type did not have terms like macvtap, direct etc | 13:46 |
| irenab | till we will figure out how nova API should look like, we want to have oprtion to set vnic_type via neutron port | 13:47 |
| baoli | Then we can do --vnic-type on 'nova boot' with normal user, and admin on port-create --vnic-type | 13:47 |
| irenab | ^option | 13:47 |
| sadasu | baoli: that would be inconsistent correct? | 13:47 |
| baoli | sadasu, to me it's inconsistent since the same APIs are exposed to all the users. it's just that some users don't see some of the options available to the APIs. | 13:48 |
| rkukura_ | If macvtap, direct, etc. are internal details of the cloud deployment, then I think these should not be exposed directly to normal users. | 13:48 |
| sadasu | I agree, that we should 1st only look at how we should pass it as a parameter to port-create and then worry about nova boot | 13:48 |
| sadasu | baoli: yes. I am specifically talking about this -vnic_type option..I think we cannot call it admin in one command and user-level in another | 13:49 |
| rkukura_ | We need to define the right abstraction for the normal user to specify what the NIC looks like to the VM and what QoS is provided, then decide whether that abstraction is provided in the nova API or in the neutron API. | 13:50 |
| baoli | Basically, are we saying a normal user has no notion of SRIOV Ports? Or as a normal user of cellphone, he should have no notion of 3G or 4G ? | 13:50 |
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| irenab | rkukura: you suggested to take it to core discussion | 13:51 |
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| baoli | keep in mind that SRIOV ports is a limited resources available in a cloud | 13:52 |
| sadasu | baoli: correct and the user is paying a premium to get access to it | 13:52 |
| rkukura_ | Can we separate the user-level abstraction from the admin-level detail of SR-IOV? | 13:52 |
| irenab | I think user should understand that he gets different types, and pays differently for them. | 13:53 |
| baoli | As long as a normal user can request a port either in the form of --nic or port-create, he should be aware what he is requesting for, one way or the other | 13:53 |
| sadasu | yes. we only need to hide implementation specifics...we don't need to hide the service itself from the user, IMHO | 13:53 |
| sadasu | we should be able to present the service in abstract terms (I am repeating myself here) | 13:54 |
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| rkukura_ | I agree with what sadasu just said. I'm not clear if the set of values for vnic_type are "implementation specifics" or "service itself". | 13:55 |
| sadasu | like maybe "fast_with_migration" for macvtap and "fast_no_migration" for direct | 13:55 |
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| sadasu | that way the user knows understands that there is "fast" and vm migration is another knob | 13:55 |
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| baoli | keep in mind that people are working to support live migration even with direct passthrough without macvtap. Technology advances | 13:56 |
| irenab | sadasu: so on neutron port, need to be user accessable with changed names? | 13:56 |
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| sadasu | baoli: exactly...our underlying implementation can change | 13:57 |
| rkukura_ | I'm not sure its just the names. I think their is a question of whether its nova or neutron that controls the decision. | 13:57 |
| sadasu | but the user facing service might not | 13:57 |
| baoli | rkukura, a normal user can use both 'nova boot' and 'neutron port-create", right? | 13:57 |
| rkukura_ | baoli: yes | 13:58 |
| sadasu | rkukura: for this question, I think the answer is, for icehouse, it will be all neutron | 13:58 |
| sadasu | in juno, nova would expose it too via nova boot | 13:58 |
| baoli | rkukura, when you say it's nova that controls the decision, ultimately, isn't; the user who issued the command in control? | 13:58 |
| rkukura_ | sadasu: Then that's what we need to make work. | 13:58 |
| sadasu | this is based on baoli's wiki | 13:58 |
| sadasu | rkukura: agreed | 13:59 |
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| irenab | time is over, any conclusion how to proceed? | 13:59 |
| baoli | Thanks everyone | 14:00 |
| rkukura_ | I'm OK with making vnic_type top-level and user-accessible if that's the only way we are going to get this into icehouse | 14:00 |
| baoli | continue tomorrow? | 14:00 |
| irenab | sure | 14:00 |
| rkukura_ | I can be on time tomorrow | 14:00 |
| sadasu | rkukura : +1 | 14:00 |
| sadasu | yes. will be there | 14:01 |
| irenab | rkukura: thank | 14:01 |
| sadasu | thanks all. | 14:01 |
| irenab | see you tomorrow | 14:01 |
| baoli | cool. Let's go over the logs and think about it. Maybe we can find some lights in the tunnel tomorrow morning! | 14:01 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 14:01:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-02-04-13.03.html | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-02-04-13.03.txt | 14:01 |
| rkukura_ | Link to baoli's wiki? | 14:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-02-04-13.03.log.html | 14:01 |
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| baoli | rkukura, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-neutron-sriov | 14:02 |
| sadasu | rkukura : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-neutron-sriov | 14:02 |
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| rkukura_ | thanks | 14:03 |
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| kgriffs | #startmeeting marconi | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 15:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kgriffs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| kgriffs | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'marconi' | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: marconi)" | 15:00 | |
| flwang | o/ | 15:00 |
| alcabrera | o/ | 15:00 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 15:00 |
| kgriffs | anyone else here for marconi awesomeness | 15:00 |
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| balajiiyer | o/ | 15:01 |
| alcabrera | w00t | 15:01 |
| mpanetta | o/ | 15:01 |
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| cpallares | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgriffs | excellent | 15:01 |
| alcabrera | hurray - looking lively! | 15:01 |
| * kgriffs hands out teh pop-tartz | 15:01 | |
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| kgriffs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Marconi#Agenda | 15:01 |
| balajiiyer | good thing, havent had breakfast yet | 15:01 |
| cpallares | :o | 15:01 |
| alcabrera | lol | 15:02 |
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| kgriffs | #topic Marconi SqlAlchemy (alcabrera) | 15:02 |
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| ametts | \o/ | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | :) | 15:02 |
| alcabrera | Cool - I'm surprised we're launching with the sqlalchemy topic. :P | 15:02 |
| kgriffs | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-sqlalchemy | 15:02 |
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| flaper87 | go alcabrera, go alcabrera, go alcabrera | 15:02 |
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| alcabrera | yes, that link. :D | 15:03 |
| alcabrera | Anyway | 15:03 |
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| alcabrera | Here's the situation - I'm hoping to drive our effort to get us sqlalchemy support by the end of this month (really, Feb. 20ish) | 15:03 |
| alcabrera | That link above describes a proposed strategy to meet that | 15:03 |
| * kgriffs wants that | 15:03 | |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: is there anything specific you wanted feedback on? | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | It's a tight schedule, a bit aggressive, but yes - sqlalchemy support is *really* desirable for ice house. | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 15:04 |
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| oz_akan_ | hi | 15:04 |
| malini | o/ | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | two things I can think of off the top of my head - | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | 1) general thoughts on timeline | 15:04 |
| alcabrera | 2) testing strategy | 15:04 |
| * kgriffs hands teh oz_akan_ and teh malini teh pot-tarts | 15:04 | |
| flaper87 | / | 15:04 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 15:04 |
| malini | yayy | 15:04 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 15:04 |
| malini | alcabrera: do u want to discuss test strategy now or after the meeting? | 15:05 |
| ametts | Hey, why didn't I get a pop-tart when I showed up? | 15:05 |
| flaper87 | I got some feedback fro Yeela, the queue controller is almost done, she sent it to me. I'll ask here to push it to gerrit and mark it as WIP | 15:05 |
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| flaper87 | so we can all provide feedback | 15:05 |
| malini | alcabrera: I have been thinking abt how to test it | 15:05 |
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| cpallares | ammets, flaper87 probably ate it | 15:05 |
| * kgriffs passes the box to ametts | 15:05 | |
| alcabrera | flaper87: thanks! | 15:05 |
| * alcabrera listens to malini | 15:05 | |
| flaper87 | the issue is that the tests for the queue controller depend on the message controller to | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | I *think* | 15:06 |
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| flaper87 | so, some work on the message controller is needed too | 15:06 |
| malini | I am thinking of adding a gate/check job that will be functional-tests-devstack-mongodb | 15:06 |
| * flaper87 STFU | 15:06 | |
| alcabrera | hmmm, flaper87 - I think that's right. The implementation order might need to be swapped so that the msg ctrl comes before the queue ctrl - or something like that | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | I can work on that asap | 15:06 |
| flaper87 | and we can isolate the queue_controller tests from the message controller | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | +1 | 15:07 |
| flaper87 | that will help with getting the queues patch in | 15:07 |
| malini | Once we have that in place , we can use the same template to do a functional-tests-devstack-postgres, functional-tests-devstack-mysql or whatever backend we need to | 15:07 |
| flaper87 | and then work on the message controller | 15:07 |
| flaper87 | I think the due date for the queue controller should be next monday! | 15:07 |
| alcabrera | malini: +1 - could you add notes in that regard to the etherpad? | 15:07 |
| malini | alcabrera: sure | 15:07 |
| malini | This will be in addition & separate from the tempest tests | 15:08 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: so you and flaper87 have worked out which parts you are implementing? | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | not yet, kgriffs. :) | 15:08 |
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| alcabrera | so, now is a good a time as any | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: I'll be tackling the catalogue and shards controller this week | 15:08 |
| flaper87 | I think it would be nice if alcabrera could thake the shard part | 15:08 |
| flaper87 | LOL | 15:08 |
| alcabrera | :D | 15:08 |
| malini | alcabrera: Can you post the link again, plz? | 15:09 |
| alcabrera | sure thing, malini | 15:09 |
| alcabrera | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/marconi-sqlalchemy | 15:09 |
| flaper87 | alcabrera: yeah, I'll make sure the rest of the work is complete and lands | 15:09 |
| flaper87 | malini: +1 for the gate thing | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | ok, let's rock this out | 15:09 |
| alcabrera | sweet | 15:09 |
| alcabrera | so, let's distribute #actions | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | we need everyone to keep a close eye on the review queue | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | (to keep things truckin' along) | 15:09 |
| kgriffs | anything else on that topic? | 15:09 |
| flaper87 | I'll be tracking the work there, I'm kind of burried in stuff this week | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | I'm pretty satisfied for now. I think we're on track. | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | if there are reviews to do, feel free to ping me. I'm not monitoring gerrit much this week | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | #action alcabrera to implement shards controller (sqlalchemy) | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | #action alcabrera to implement catalogue controller (sqlalchemy) | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | I will try to, though! | 15:10 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: will you be able to work on the SQL driver this week? | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | and sorry about that! | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: Yeela is working on the queue controller | 15:10 |
| alcabrera | flaper87: no worries. :) | 15:10 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I'll start working on the message controller asap | 15:11 |
| kgriffs | ok, it's just that I am getting *really* nervous | 15:11 |
| kgriffs | we are down to the wire | 15:11 |
| alcabrera | 16 days to go | 15:11 |
| kgriffs | #action flaper87, alcabrera, and malini to save the world by implementing the SQL driver in record time | 15:11 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I'll make that happen | 15:11 |
| alcabrera | hurray | 15:11 |
| alcabrera | :D | 15:11 |
| kgriffs | ;) | 15:12 |
| malini | me too... | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | of course! | 15:12 |
| alcabrera | #info sqlalchemy effort prioritized - targeting Feb. 20th | 15:12 |
| malini | I will really really focus on graduation starting now | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | our code would totally suck without you keeping us honest. srsly. | 15:12 |
| kgriffs | #topic pending patches | 15:12 |
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| kgriffs | just wanted to take a moment to give people an opportunity to highlight any of these | 15:13 |
| kgriffs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/marconi,n,z | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | there's several close patches in the queue | 15:13 |
| kgriffs | yep | 15:13 |
| alcabrera | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70202/ (sqlalchemy config ++) | 15:13 |
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| alcabrera | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68267/ (lots of bug fixes) | 15:13 |
| kgriffs | so, last week I bloodied myself kicking against the wsgiref stuff | 15:14 |
| alcabrera | oh yes - the evils of wsgiref | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | after the team bandaged my wounds, we came up with the idea for that first patch there | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | there are a couple housekeeping patches with a -1 | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | minor stuff | 15:14 |
| alcabrera | I'm very +2 for the idea. | 15:14 |
| kgriffs | let's get those updated and merged ASAP | 15:15 |
| alcabrera | re: wsgiref changes | 15:15 |
| * kgriffs gives alcabrera a big hug | 15:15 | |
| alcabrera | :D | 15:15 |
| * kgriffs wipes a tear from his eye | 15:15 | |
| * alcabrera returns hug | 15:15 | |
| * ametts is getting nauseated | 15:15 | |
| * kgriffs was traumatized | 15:15 | |
| kgriffs | ametts: LOL | 15:16 |
| alcabrera | lol | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: can you take a look at my patch there? | 15:16 |
| alcabrera | so, quick question: | 15:16 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I'm doing that as we speak | 15:16 |
| flaper87 | :D | 15:16 |
| alcabrera | "The style guideline says if there's no code the file shouldn’t contain any license header nor comments. I double checked." | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | it will make everyone's lives soooo much better. I promise. | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | oic | 15:16 |
| malini | tht is just a crazy guideline | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | that is kinda silly | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | but whatever | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | I can remove my -1 | 15:16 |
| kgriffs | not a big deal | 15:16 |
| alcabrera | cool | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | that's two patches we can merge now | 15:17 |
| kgriffs | ok, anything else on the topic? | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | hmmm | 15:17 |
| alcabrera | nah, I'm good. We can get back to this in #marconi later | 15:17 |
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| kgriffs | #topic i-3 | 15:18 |
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| alcabrera | bps and bugs~ | 15:18 |
| kgriffs | this is pretty much graduation stuff, so I am going to combine those agenda items | 15:18 |
| kgriffs | #link https://launchpad.net/marconi/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 15:18 |
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| kgriffs | so, I deprioritized a few things there | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | and made sure all bps are assigned | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | let's go down these in order | 15:19 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: docs | 15:19 |
| balajiiyer | Im working with Catherine on docs. she is going to start with user docs this week. | 15:20 |
| kgriffs | excellent | 15:20 |
| alcabrera | sweet | 15:20 |
| kgriffs | did you end up deciding to put those in the marconi repo then? | 15:20 |
| balajiiyer | I have to talk to oz_akan_ mpanetta and get a draft installation guide, and give it to Catherine to make it pretty | 15:20 |
| balajiiyer | yes, it will go to marconi repo | 15:20 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: cool. Let them do a very rough draft and let Catherine work her magic | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: kk | 15:21 |
| alcabrera | #info balajiiyer making good progress on docs initiative | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: we are going to try to mirror the manuals repo so it will be easy to move over once we are integrated | 15:21 |
| balajiiyer | there are a few things Catherine & I will have to figure out, but I will post those questions once we cross the bridge | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | that sounds good to me | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: thanks! | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | balajiiyer: +1 for the effort there! | 15:21 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: pecan | 15:21 |
| flaper87 | we really need that | 15:21 |
| balajiiyer | Been working on pecan the last couple of days, bloodied (going to borrow your word, Kurt) | 15:22 |
| * kgriffs hands balajiiyer some bandages and salve | 15:22 | |
| * amitgandhi the walls in our office are red with the bloodied work of balajiiyer | 15:23 | |
| malini | pecan shud be called macadamia - hard to crack | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: do you think we will have a POC by the end of the week? | 15:23 |
| alcabrera | haha | 15:23 |
| balajiiyer | alcabrera been helping me out, so will be successful. Lots of architectural changes reqd to get marconi going with pecan | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | sounds like pecan doesn't like to play nice with others | 15:23 |
| alcabrera | global request/response objects are a bit strange | 15:23 |
| mpanetta | malini: ++ | 15:23 |
| kgriffs | i knew a kid like that once | 15:23 |
| malini | :D | 15:23 |
| alcabrera | 'from pecan import request, response' | 15:23 |
| alcabrera | e.g. | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | ok, how soon before we can run a significant benchmark? | 15:24 |
| balajiiyer | kgriffs: I have been updating the notes page, so take a look at that | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: kewl | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | which reminds me | 15:24 |
| balajiiyer | Im targetting EOW, lets see | 15:24 |
| kgriffs | I need to go write some marconi docs so we have something to show on that line item. :p | 15:24 |
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| alcabrera | #info balajiiyer aiming to support enough pecan in marconi to benchmark by end of week | 15:25 |
| kgriffs | tbh, lots of people say when they use falcon the README is almost good enough, since Falcon is so easy to learn | 15:25 |
| kgriffs | </shameless-plug> | 15:25 |
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| alcabrera | :P | 15:25 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: thanks man, I REAAAAALLLLLYYYYY appreciate this! | 15:25 |
| alcabrera | :D | 15:26 |
| alcabrera | yeah, thanks balajiiyer! | 15:26 |
| balajiiyer | kgriffs: yw | 15:26 |
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| kgriffs | ok | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | next | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | SQL storage driver | 15:26 |
| alcabrera | haha | 15:26 |
| alcabrera | yes, that | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | we already talke about that | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | next | 15:26 |
| kgriffs | malini: tempest | 15:26 |
| malini | I got one patch merged y'day | 15:26 |
| malini | have another one I am working on now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65140/ | 15:27 |
| alcabrera | sweet | 15:27 |
| malini | I have been neglecting these patches the last couple of weeks | 15:27 |
| malini | HAve been crazy busy with other stuff | 15:27 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:27 |
| malini | But I will get back on track & get the outstanding patches merged this week | 15:27 |
| kgriffs | malini: is that other stuff winding down? | 15:28 |
| malini | kgriffs: yes | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | gtk | 15:28 |
| alcabrera | very yes | 15:28 |
| * alcabrera gives a sigh of relief | 15:28 | |
| kgriffs | heat template merged | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: can you sanity-check that template? | 15:28 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: will do. I just clicked on it :D | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:28 |
| kgriffs | #action flaper87 to sanity-check heat template, see if we are all done there | 15:29 |
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| kgriffs | alcabrera: Make Basic Marconi Docs Available | 15:29 |
| kgriffs | is this superseded? | 15:29 |
| alcabrera | yes, balajiiyer is tackling the proper effort | 15:29 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:30 |
| kgriffs | status updated | 15:30 |
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| alcabrera | thanks | 15:30 |
| kgriffs | kgriffs: api v1.1 | 15:30 |
| kgriffs | i am going to start working on that today | 15:30 |
| kgriffs | first step is to create a v1.0 clone i guess, since we wanted to make the schema work run in parallel | 15:31 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: did you have any thoughts on that? | 15:31 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: I actually wanted to talk about that | 15:31 |
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| * kgriffs picks up the floor and hands it to flaper87 | 15:31 | |
| flaper87 | I guess our best shot now is to move the wsgi contents under a v1 package | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | and copy that one to a v11 or something like that | 15:32 |
| flaper87 | well, 11 is a major | 15:32 |
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| flaper87 | :P | 15:32 |
| kgriffs | ok. Let's do the silly copy-paste for now | 15:32 |
| alcabrera | CP works for me | 15:32 |
| kgriffs | we will clean up later assuming the fancy API abstraction works out | 15:32 |
| alcabrera | v1_1, I suppose | 15:32 |
| alcabrera | re: naming | 15:33 |
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| flaper87 | not sure what the best thing to do there is, TBH. But yeah, I'd go with v1_1 for now | 15:33 |
| kgriffs | I know other projects do copy-paste, but that doesn't always mean it's right (just because another project is doing it) -- more like, we can get away with it if we need to | 15:33 |
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| flaper87 | ugly but sounds like it'll work | 15:33 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:33 |
| kgriffs | so next week I'd like to review the 1.1 spec | 15:34 |
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| kgriffs | please everyone do their homework and come prepared to discuss the finer points | 15:34 |
| alcabrera | #info next week - reviewing v1.1 spec | 15:34 |
| kgriffs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/specs/api/v1.1 | 15:34 |
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| kgriffs | fwiw, pretty much the entire delta between 1.0 and 1.1 was driven by user/sdk developer feedback | 15:35 |
| kgriffs | so if you don't like it, TOUGH | 15:35 |
| * kgriffs is kidding | 15:35 | |
| kgriffs | cpallares: Cross Transport API Spec | 15:35 |
| amitgandhi | maybe worth having a few of those folks in that meeting too | 15:35 |
| kgriffs | amitgandhi: good idea! | 15:36 |
| kgriffs | #action kgriffs to invite sdk devs to v1.1 api review | 15:36 |
| kgriffs | cpallares: status on that bp? | 15:36 |
| balajiiyer | kgriffs: speaking of sdk, did you need a note about fog being broken due to a change lower case headers? | 15:36 |
| balajiiyer | need /see | 15:37 |
| cpallares | yeah, working on tests for the api/storage communication | 15:37 |
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| kgriffs | is it still "slow progress" or "good progress"? | 15:37 |
| cpallares | ...Still. I got a little stuck on the testing but flaper87 helped me out | 15:37 |
| cpallares | slow progress | 15:37 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:37 |
| alcabrera | #info cpallares reports slow progress on cross transport API spec | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | thanks for working on that. glad to see it making some progress | 15:38 |
| alcabrera | thanks, cpallares! :) | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer: mmm. Parson my ignorance, but what is "fog"? | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | s/parson/pardon | 15:38 |
| alcabrera | Ruby cloud sdk, kinda like libcloud, kgriffs | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | oic | 15:38 |
| alcabrera | https://github.com/fog/fog | 15:38 |
| alcabrera | errr | 15:38 |
| alcabrera | #link https://github.com/fog/fog | 15:38 |
| kgriffs | um, so, clients are supposed to not care about header case | 15:39 |
| * kgriffs hides behind HTTPbis | 15:39 | |
| balajiiyer | kgriffs: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21489139/exception-claiming-messages-from-cloud-queues-in-fog/21489263#21489263 | 15:39 |
| alcabrera | +1 | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | oh, glad to know they fixed it | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | hmm | 15:40 |
| alcabrera | after discussing with the fog sdk devs, they traced the case-sense issue back to one of their deps - excon, which is kind of like the requests module of ruby | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | I didn't realize that change went out in Cloud Queues | 15:40 |
| ametts | Cool... people are asking about us on Stack Overflow... | 15:40 |
| malini | we are famous!! | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | w00t | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: gtk | 15:40 |
| balajiiyer | There is a tag for 'Rackspace' in SO | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | malini: Basic Security Tests | 15:41 |
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| kgriffs | as much as I hate to say this, I think this will have to slip into juno | 15:41 |
| malini | havent started yet | 15:41 |
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| malini | I think so too | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | but don't forget about it! | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | :) | 15:41 |
| malini | I will be focussing on tempest +sqlalchemy till feb 20 | 15:42 |
| alcabrera | agreed - we're too full to do more than what we're doing now | 15:42 |
| malini | Will get to it after tht | 15:42 |
| malini | wont forget :) | 15:42 |
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| alcabrera | #info security testing effort re-targetted for Juno | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: Make TTL optional | 15:42 |
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| kgriffs | so, I think that is basically part of the v1.1 API | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | I haven't started working on that but I think it's important | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: yeah | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | agreed | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | "The ttl field is no longer required when posting messages and creating claims; if omitted, it will default to the max TTL allowed by your cloud operator." | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | so, maybe I can just nuke this extra bp? | 15:43 |
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| alcabrera | +1 for nuking | 15:43 |
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| flaper87 | well, I wouldn't | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | I mean, it's part of v1.1 but it's a different thing | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | ah wait | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | I understood what you mean, mmh | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | so your thinking about making all those changes in a single bp? | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | well, is it really big enough to be it's own bp? | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: mmm | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | good point | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | I'd prefer breaking those down into several bps | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | we can break it down and make them dep | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | and with that we can split the job | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:45 |
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| kgriffs | I'll break out the other things too | 15:45 |
| alcabrera | +1 for breaking down v1.1 into bps - parallel development is good | 15:45 |
| kgriffs | #kgriffs to break out bps for v1.1 work | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | LOL | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | here's another v1.1 thing | 15:46 |
| alcabrera | #action kgriffs to break out bps for v1.1 work | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/detailed-health | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | #kgriffs is not a thing | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | lol | 15:46 |
| alcabrera | lol | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | you're cheating | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | :D | 15:46 |
| * kgriffs facepalm | 15:46 | |
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| kgriffs | flwang: && | 15:47 |
| kgriffs | flwang: ^^ | 15:47 |
| kgriffs | I mean | 15:47 |
| flwang | kgriffs: I have collected the KPI, 1) CPU utilization 2) # of active shards 3) # of queues/shard 4) response time / reqs/sec | 15:47 |
| * kgriffs wonders what is wrong with his keyboard | 15:47 | |
| flwang | does that make sense for you for the first stage? | 15:47 |
| flwang | kgriffs: I'm not sure if all of them can be collected easily though | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | flwang: sure. So let me create a v1_1 transport and then you can start plugging it in. | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | mmm | 15:48 |
| flwang | kgriffs: great | 15:48 |
| alcabrera | flwang: let's talk about it in #openstack-marconi. I'll be glad to discuss the difficulty of each of those KPIs | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | flwang: start with just one metric that is easy to collect | 15:49 |
| kgriffs | that way you get all the plumbing done | 15:49 |
| flwang | kgriffs: sure, that's what I want to do | 15:49 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:49 |
| kgriffs | then we can add others and see how many we get in before i-3 closes. | 15:49 |
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| alcabrera | +1 | 15:49 |
| kgriffs | rock on | 15:49 |
| kgriffs | flwang: thanks! | 15:49 |
| flwang | kgriffs: yep | 15:49 |
| flwang | kgriffs: sure, glad to contribute | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | malini: benchmark | 15:50 |
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| kgriffs | malini: this would be helpful to add to the operator manual so people can make an educated decision | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | but | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | I'm thinking Juno | 15:50 |
| malini | +1 for juno :) | 15:51 |
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| kgriffs | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/benchmark | 15:51 |
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| malini | I also want to try out the stress test framework in tempest for this | 15:51 |
| malini | Adding tsung configs is really easy & has worked out well for RAX implementation | 15:51 |
| kgriffs | cool | 15:51 |
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| malini | But doing it in for gate/jenkins will require the infra team to add tsung etc | 15:52 |
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| alcabrera | #info flwang to continue work on more detailed health info/KPIs | 15:52 |
| malini | which will raise a lot of questions | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | #info benchmark effort retargetted for Juno | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | alcabrera: Implement Sharding Controllers for sqlalchemy | 15:52 |
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| kgriffs | I can make that dep on SQL Storage Drive, nicht? | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | started | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | and yes. :) | 15:52 |
| alcabrera | I have one patch in that is important for getting the rest going | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | done | 15:53 |
| alcabrera | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70202/ | 15:53 |
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| kgriffs | ah yes, thanks for the reminder | 15:53 |
| kgriffs | I started reviewing that a few days ago and got sidetracked | 15:53 |
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| kgriffs | flaper87: ^^^ | 15:53 |
| alcabrera | no worries. | 15:53 |
| kgriffs | let's get that reviewed ASAP | 15:53 |
| * flaper87 clicks | 15:53 | |
| alcabrera | #info alcabrera started shards controller for sql driver | 15:53 |
| flaper87 | oh yeah, that one! | 15:53 |
| flaper87 | sorry for not having reviewed it yet! I'll get to it asap! | 15:54 |
| alcabrera | thanks! | 15:54 |
| kgriffs | ok | 15:55 |
| kgriffs | #topic bugs | 15:55 |
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| amitgandhi | holdup | 15:55 |
| amitgandhi | horizon update? | 15:55 |
| amitgandhi | jay-atl: has been making progress | 15:55 |
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| kgriffs | oh | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | wat? | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | ohhh | 15:55 |
| kgriffs | I didn't realize that was being worked on | 15:55 |
| kgriffs | bonus points! | 15:55 |
| * flaper87 neither | 15:55 | |
| jay-atl | yeah yesterday I got devstack with Marconi up... and pointed my horizon server to that. | 15:55 |
| flaper87 | thanks | 15:55 |
| alcabrera | sweet | 15:56 |
| alcabrera | :D | 15:56 |
| flaper87 | jay-atl:++ | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | this guy? | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/marconi/+spec/marconi-horizon-integration | 15:56 |
| alcabrera | #info jay-atl launching horizon effort for marconi - progress: started | 15:56 |
| jay-atl | It's slow going, but today I hope to actually be populating it with data... | 15:56 |
| * amitgandhi to those that dont know jay he is one of our UX devs in ATL | 15:56 | |
| balajiiyer | kgriffs: yes, thats the bp Jay's been working on | 15:56 |
| kgriffs | ah, cool | 15:56 |
| * jaypipes really must remove "jay" as an IRC notification pinger... | 15:56 | |
| kgriffs | let me move that into i-3 then | 15:56 |
| alcabrera | lol | 15:57 |
| jaypipes | :P | 15:57 |
| balajiiyer | jay jay jay | 15:57 |
| flaper87 | LOL | 15:57 |
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| kgriffs | jay-atl do you have a launchpad account? | 15:58 |
| kgriffs | I can assign the bp to you if you do | 15:58 |
| * alcabrera issues 2 minute warning | 15:58 | |
| jay-atl | Nope... | 15:58 |
| kgriffs | kk | 15:58 |
| kgriffs | balajiiyer can get you set up | 15:58 |
| jay-atl | Ok | 15:58 |
| kgriffs | for now, I'll leave it assigned to balajiiyer | 15:58 |
| amitgandhi | jay-atl: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Getting_Started | 15:58 |
| kgriffs | thanks man! | 15:58 |
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| kgriffs | ok, re bugs, if we can get that wsgiref thing sorted, I will be unblocked from working on more bugs | 15:59 |
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| alcabrera | cool | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | fwiw, I have the autoreconnect almost done - I imagine it will need a few review cycles | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | (stay tuned) | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | #topic open discussion | 15:59 |
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| kgriffs | 30 seconds | 15:59 |
| kgriffs | ....go! | 16:00 |
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| alcabrera | I'm happy about the increasing help. :) | 16:00 |
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| kgriffs | w00t | 16:00 |
| flaper87 | I'm happy about Marconi and our team | 16:00 |
| kgriffs | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 16:00:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-02-04-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-02-04-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/marconi/2014/marconi.2014-02-04-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 16:01:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2014-02-04_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 16:01 | |
| paulmo | Paul Montgomery | 16:01 |
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| claytonc | Clayton Coleman | 16:01 |
| tomblank1 | tom blankenship | 16:01 |
| stannie | Pierre Padrixe | 16:01 |
| nmarchenko | Nikita Marchenko, Mirantis | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:01 |
| coolsvap | Swapnil | 16:01 |
| paulczar | Paul Czarkowski | 16:01 |
| gokrokve_ | Georgy Okrokvertskhov | 16:01 |
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| roshanagr | Roshan Agrawal | 16:01 |
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| kraman | Krishna Raman | 16:01 |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni, Rackspace | 16:01 |
| julienvey | Julien Vey | 16:02 |
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| muralia | murali allada | 16:02 |
| ycombinator | Shaunak Kashyap, Rackspace | 16:02 |
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| aratim | Arati Mahimane | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | Welcome everyone! | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | feel free to chime in at any time to be recorded in the attendance. | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Any announcements from our team members? | 16:03 |
| gokrokve_ | Small update on Glance repository. | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | gokrokve_: :) | 16:04 |
| gokrokve_ | As you know last week there was a Glance mini-summit. | 16:04 |
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| gokrokve_ | There was a decision made to create generic artifact repository API in Glance. | 16:04 |
| gokrokve_ | It will have pluggable architecture to support custom artifact types for specific parsing. | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | sweet | 16:05 |
| JoelC | gokrokve_, That's good news | 16:05 |
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| gokrokve_ | So, Solum will be able to use it to store its artifacts like LP, definitions and whatever you want. | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | gokrokve_: where can Solum team members learn more about it? | 16:06 |
| gokrokve_ | Some working code will probably be available in J M1 timeframe. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | did they already file a BP for it? | 16:06 |
| coolsvap | gokrokve_: any etherpads? | 16:06 |
| gokrokve_ | adrian_otto: Right now there is nothing to learn. I will update you as soon as BPs are submitted and some details appear. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | rajdeep: welcome | 16:07 |
| rajdeep | hi | 16:07 |
| gokrokve_ | There are some drafts but they are not represent the idea. | 16:07 |
| gokrokve_ | That is it for Glance part :-) | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | ok, if anyone notices the blueprint go up, please subscribe me, and let's revisit that as a future announcement in one of our team meetings. | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | we should do our part to participate in the design of that to help make it as useful as possible. | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | any other announcements? | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | thanks gokrokve_ | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) ACTION: adrian_otto to create blueprints for each of the API REST Resources (adrian_otto, 16:12:22) | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | Status: in progress. This will be done today. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | 2) ACTION: adrian_otto to propose an alternate meeting time for the Solum team, potentially an alternating time schedule (adrian_otto, 16:46:19) | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | let's dive into this one a bit | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/ProposedMeetingTime | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/ProposedMeetingTime | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | I want input from those who are not attending today because it's the middle of the night | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | so we won't make a final decision, but I'd like input on the idea of alternating meetings on a */2 week basis | 16:11 |
| rajdeep | i think current time works better for me.. | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | so we would alternate between this time, and another time | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | because no option is good for everyone | 16:11 |
| noorul | current time is best for IST people | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | I'm particularly sensitive to the effective exclusion of core reviewers from the weekly meeting | 16:11 |
| coolsvap | current +option 2 | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | and we have cores in at least 4 timezones | 16:12 |
| yanndegat | current + 12,7,1,9 | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | so what I think I will do is make this into a doodle poll, and get a feeling for the popular vote. | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | because I do want to balance the interests of high weekly attendance with local convenience for those of us distributed throughout the globe. | 16:13 |
| yanndegat | i think 12,7,1,9 would be a better option1 ;) | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | let me look at that, one sec. | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=8,2158177,1277333,2988507&h=8&date=2014-2-4&sln=12-13 | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | so if that were an ever-other-week meeting time, would any of our India contributors attend that? | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | coolsvap: what do you think? noorul? | 16:15 |
| rajdeep | you mean the 6am one? | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | rajdeep: visit the link above, which I think would be ~1:00 AM in India, right? | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | this is an option not listed on my wiki page. | 16:16 |
| devkulkarni | how about: 9, 4, 10.30, 6 | 16:16 |
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| rajdeep | ah.. thats going to be tough | 16:16 |
| noorul | adrian_otto: I don't think 1:30 am is feasible for Indian contributors | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | so that brings us back to alternating the meeting time | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | ideally that time would be somewhat convenient for the majority of the regular attendees (mostly in US timezones), and convenient at least once every second week for all the core reviewers. | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts on that? | 16:18 |
| noorul | which time are you talking about? | 16:18 |
| noorul | 9, 4, 10.30, 6 ? | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | Our current time, plus Option 1 in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/ProposedMeetingTime | 16:19 |
| noorul | current time is fine for me | 16:19 |
| julienvey | I think the best is to have a doodle poll | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | Option 2 is actually better given our criteria | 16:20 |
| coolsvap | adrian_otto: yes | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll set up the poll, and we will revisit it again. Thanks everyone for your input. This is a hard issue to address. | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | next action item is: | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | 3) ACTION: adrian_otto to get input from team members on F2F meetings, and Summit meeting plans (adrian_otto, 16:59:16) | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | Status: in-progress. Working to identify an alternate host. If not Rackspace is willing to host. | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | kraman: was Matt able to join is? | 16:21 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: unfortunately no | 16:21 |
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| kraman | he is on the road today | 16:21 |
| kraman | i have asked him to email you back | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | kraman: ok, thanks | 16:21 |
| paulczar | also Angus is now in Brisbane, the wiki page shows melbourne. usually same timezone, except in summer, brisbane doesn't have DST. i.e. right now melba is gmt+11, brisbane is gmt+10 | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | Team, in collaborations it's customary to alternate the location and host of F2F meetings | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | paulczar: tx! | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | so I want to give other team members a fair opportunity to host the event if they would like to | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | we would expect attendance in the 30-40 person range, plus remote attendees. | 16:23 |
| julienvey | adrian_otto: we would be glad to host but Paris might be a little too far for you :) | 16:23 |
| stannie | I will participate to the hangout from Paris if it's in Tx | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | julienvey: Thakns! | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | Rackspace has a number of different locations in the US | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | California, Texas, Georgia, Verginia | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | since the last was on the West coast, we could explore doing a March event elsewhere | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | I checked and we are all willing to travel to the Bay Area again | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | if everyone felt that was a good group | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | Virginia is probably more convenient for the RH team, right kraman and claytonc? | 16:26 |
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| kraman | adrian_otto: yes claytonc, dan and jessica re on the east coast | 16:26 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: but its cold there :) | 16:26 |
| paulczar | if nobody specifically cares to host, we should do it at a place that reduces travel time for majority … that would be Austin right? ;) | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | paul, yes, that would be lowest overall distance to travel for the whole group | 16:27 |
| yanndegat | lowest CO2 | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | so that's my current favorite, but I wanted to get as much input as possible | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | gokrokve_: would you be able to attend if we did it in Austin? | 16:28 |
| gokrokve_ | I think yes. | 16:28 |
| kraman | adrian_otto: perhaps we can make it a action item for all to vote on the location | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to hold a vote for next F2F location | 16:28 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so now Blueprints | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Blueprints | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/api Solum API (aotto) | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | we have a whole bunch of open reviews on this topic | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | in general I'm feeling pretty good about the progress. It has been steady progress across numerous rest resources in the API | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | I don't see alarming gaps anywhere. | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | the new blueprints will help us finish up focus on this | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | any other thoughts on the API? | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: I will ask you about linking the CLI to the API in a moment | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-minimal-cli Command Line Interface for Solum (devdatta-kulkarni) | 16:31 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: this work is progressing nicely. paulmo and noorul are on top of connecting CLI to API | 16:31 |
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| devkulkarni | paulmo, noorul: you want to add some more color? | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | in paulmo's recent M1 cli work, there were callouts to API functionality needed to finish up that BP | 16:32 |
| noorul | Was tied up last week, nothing much to add | 16:32 |
| paulmo | Just some minor edits on the CLI text parsing code from reviews and hopefully good to go on that side | 16:32 |
| devkulkarni | paulmo: great! | 16:33 |
| rajdeep | is the use of PATCH verb common in OpenStack? | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | paulmo: will you need more help from other Stackers to arrange the bits in the API we need to make the CLI funciton? | 16:33 |
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| adrian_otto | rajdeep: no, not yet. PATCH is new. | 16:33 |
| paulmo | I'm a little confused, I'm not working on the API side of things, that is Noorul | 16:33 |
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| rajdeep | ok, as i had not seen it very often | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | paulmo, I know, but noorul has been unable to work on that, so I'm checking to see if you want help from alternate sources | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | as that's in our critical path for M1 | 16:34 |
| paulmo | Are you asking me to finish up the REST API side of the CLI? | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | paulmo: no, I'm actually asking devkulkarni | 16:35 |
| noorul | Initial API code is in | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: do we need more help on the API side of this BP? | 16:35 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: let me check back on the CLI to API connection. | 16:35 |
| noorul | I can quickly add more resources | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: thanks. | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | paulmo: I recognize that your part of this is done | 16:35 |
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| devkulkarni | noorul: lets chat about it later today. | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | I'm more concerned that we don't deadlock on this | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: thanks! | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-git-pull Pull integration of Solum from an external Git repo (kraman) | 16:36 |
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| kraman | devkulkarni: and coolsvap have been working on tests | 16:37 |
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| kraman | and we are also looking into a temporary solution while we continue working on gettingcode into zuul | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | kraman: last week you mentioned that you would begin submitting this work as reviews in openstack-infra. We should not need tests to do that as WIP. Do you have any objections to putting that up for OpenStack review as WIP? | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | and add in the tests from coolsvap and devkulkarni as they are produced? | 16:38 |
| kraman | I havent had time to do so yet due to other deadlines. But we will be doing that this week | 16:38 |
| kraman | along with adding tests to the WIP patch | 16:39 |
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| kraman | I should have the patch submitted for discussion later today | 16:39 |
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| adrian_otto | kraman: thanks. Ideally we should get what we have in for review to get more eyeballs on it as early as we reasonably can | 16:39 |
| kraman | yes, makes sense. will take that as an action item for today | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | also, remember not to drop a huge patch | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | consider making it into a few smaller patches if it's a lot of code. | 16:40 |
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| kraman | ok, will discuss with devkulkarni: coolsvap about splitting up the code into smaller pieces | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | #action kraman to submit zuul work into Gerrit as WIP for review. Tests to be added as they are created. | 16:41 |
| kraman | it should be possible | 16:41 |
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| devkulkarni | kraman: yeah, lets discuss that | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | kraman: thanks for the update, and the commitment to get that up for review | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | any more remarks on this BP? | 16:42 |
| kraman | I have schedules a meeting for tomorrow to discuss the temporary service we will put in place while we work n zuul | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | kraman: please announce the time here | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | for those who might take an interest in joining in | 16:43 |
| kraman | Meeting will take place at 9 AM PST (http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=100,8,524901,2158177&h=100&date=2014-02-05&sln=17-18) | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | awesome, thanks! | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | any more on this? | 16:43 |
| kraman | thats it from my end | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | next is: | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/specify-lang-pack Specify the language pack to be used for app deploy (devdatta-kulkarni) | 16:44 |
| devkulkarni | The updates on this are: | 16:44 |
| devkulkarni | 1) aratim has been doing great progress. code for the API part is almost done. she is continuing to work on the backend datamodel | 16:45 |
| devkulkarni | there are patches for API part available for review. | 16:45 |
| devkulkarni | 2) need to touch base with gokrokve_ to understand if we need to work on adding artifact endpoints for solum in glance | 16:46 |
| devkulkarni | that is all | 16:46 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: thanks. On #2 gokrokve_ mentioned this is J M1 code in Glance | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | so we will need something to use in the mean time | 16:47 |
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| noorul | Does glance has versioning? | 16:47 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: yes. so that something will be essentially solum's db itself. | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | noorul: it has metadata on the entities stored on it, we could use that for a simple versioning scheme | 16:48 |
| stannie | i've the BP for the glance artifacts https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/metadata-artifact-repository | 16:48 |
| noorul | Are we going to support multiple versions in M1? | 16:48 |
| gokrokve_ | noorul: It will have versions in new API. But here are no versios in current Glance. You can use metadata tags, though. | 16:48 |
| stannie | I added you adrian_otto and gokrokve_ as subscribers and there is also the etherpad that gokrokve_ was talking about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MetadataRepository-ArtifactRepositoryAPI | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | stannie: WHOOT! | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for subscribing me | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | noorul: probably not multi-version in the initial milestone | 16:49 |
| noorul | ok | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | in all honesty I don''t think we have fully considered that question yet | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, devkulkarni any more on this? | 16:51 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: no, that is all on this for now. | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | next is: | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/logging Logging Architecture (paulmo) | 16:51 |
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| paulmo | Short update unless there is interest in diving deeper: We've had several community meetings on logging and context over the last week. Â I think we are making progress towards a solution everyone can agree on. Â May need another meeting or two to get something solid architected. | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | I know we have good progress on this one | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks paulmo for facilitating the discussions on this. I felt it was productive. | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-zuul-integration Solum integration with Zuul (devdatta-kulkarni) | 16:52 |
| paulmo | Glad to help! :) | 16:52 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: if I remember correctly, last time you had said you will combine this bp with the git-pull bp | 16:53 |
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| devkulkarni | in any case, the updates are what kraman provided earlier | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | #action remove https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-zuul-integration Solum integration with Zuul (devdatta-kulkarni) from recurring agenda, to be combined with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-git-pull | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | need assignee | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto remove https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-zuul-integration Solum integration with Zuul (devdatta-kulkarni) from recurring agenda, to be combined with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-git-pull | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, there we go! | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | #topic M1 Completion | 16:54 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: cool. thanks! | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | Can we complete M1 in February? | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | I feel we are pretty darn close | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | lots of little bits here and there to tie up | 16:55 |
| devkulkarni | there is one big missing piece of the puzzle | 16:55 |
| devkulkarni | the 'deployment workflow'. | 16:55 |
| noorul | build part? | 16:55 |
| roshanagr | implemention of Java - Tomcat language pack did not surface - which blueprint is tracking that work | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | the bit that generated the heat template. | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | s/generated/generates/ | 16:55 |
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| adrian_otto | roshanagr: Actually paulczar posted a link to that code when we talked about this yesterday. It is in contrib, right? | 16:56 |
| devkulkarni | roshanagr: good question. imo, we should discuss about the overall language-pack working group's work. the part you mentioned is being tackled as one of things in that working group. | 16:56 |
| roshanagr | adrian_otto: paulcz's was python | 16:56 |
| claytonc | devkulkarni: yeah it would be good to talk about the status | 16:57 |
| claytonc | it was funzo who owned it but he's fallen a bit behind | 16:57 |
| claytonc | and tbh the zuul work blocks a lot of lp | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so we probably want a new BP to explicitly call out the component of the system that will do the Heat template generation, and kick off the deploy. | 16:58 |
| julienvey | do we have to worry about docker integration in nova for M1 ? | 16:58 |
| paulczar | here's the contribs that I talked about yesterday - https://github.com/stackforge/solum/tree/master/contrib/diskimage-builder | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | that should help fill the gap that devkulkarni is concerned about | 16:58 |
| claytonc | adrian_otto: agree | 16:58 |
| devkulkarni | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/deploy-workflow | 16:58 |
| claytonc | devkulkarni: our discussion last week re: plan updates i think is the blocking bit there | 16:58 |
| claytonc | transition from plan version a -> plan version b in a controlled fashion | 16:59 |
| devkulkarni | claytonc: yes. that discussion is part of it as well. | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: thanks. I will review this, suggest edits, and get that targeted for M1. Any additional thoughts on this? | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/deploy-workflow | 16:59 |
| devkulkarni | claytonc: about lp work being blocked by zuul.. | 16:59 |
| devkulkarni | could we identify exactly what is getting blocked? the reason I ask is, | 17:00 |
| claytonc | devkulkarni: sorry, not blocked, just once we have a zuul flow the actual impl of a lp is a 5-10 minute thing | 17:00 |
| devkulkarni | in tomorrow's git-integration meeting, we are planning to discuss an interim service that we should consider while zuul work is still being developed | 17:00 |
| claytonc | with the work that paulczar and funzo have done | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | claytonc: oh okay. | 17:00 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: that BP is now Direction Approved, and targeted for M1 | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: great. thanks! | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | over time, sorry | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 17:01:54 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-02-04-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-02-04-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-02-04-16.01.log.html | 17:02 |
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| adrian_otto | we can continue in #solum if convenient | 17:02 |
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| ativelkov | #startmeeting murano | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 17:03:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ativelkov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:03 |
| katyafervent | Hi! | 17:03 |
| ativelkov | Hi there | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | \o/ | 17:03 |
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| ativelkov | Our agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda#Agenda | 17:04 |
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| ativelkov | Also, I'd like to propose two additional items there: I want to touch repo reorganization again, and also we need to discuss the formal core team limits | 17:05 |
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| ativelkov | So, we have quite a lot of topics to discuss, let's try not to waste the time | 17:05 |
| ativelkov | #topic AI review | 17:05 |
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| ativelkov | stanlagun to update the DSL description according to the implemented PoC | 17:06 |
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| ativelkov | stanlagun - any updates on that? | 17:06 |
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| stanlagun | No docs yet | 17:06 |
| stanlagun | But I expect them this week | 17:07 |
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| ativelkov | #info No docs on DSL yet, expect to have them this week | 17:07 |
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| ativelkov | stan, then this AI remains on you | 17:07 |
| stanlagun | yep | 17:07 |
| ativelkov | #action stanlagun to update the DSL description according to the implemented PoC | 17:07 |
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| ativelkov | tnurlygayanov to help stanlagun with DSL Engine & YAML workflow unit tests | 17:07 |
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| gokrokve_ | Hi. We have some idea about explicit events support in DSL. | 17:09 |
| gokrokve_ | Stan, where is your code? I want to check if I can add this to DSL. | 17:10 |
| ativelkov | gokrokve_: let's wait till we start discussing it, just couple of minutes to complete with AIs | 17:10 |
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| ativelkov | tnurlygayanov - any updates on unit tests for the new DSL engine? | 17:10 |
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| ativelkov | probably he is away, stanlagun, could you comment on this as well? | 17:11 |
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| ativelkov | We have missing men ) | 17:12 |
| igormarnat_ | Let's move on then, since folks are out | 17:12 |
| stanlagun | I think there is no progress on this. I was budy implementing DSL features | 17:13 |
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| ativelkov | OK, we need to imrove our testing efforts on this. DSL is a crusial component for our success, it should be well-covered | 17:13 |
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| stanlagun | agree | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | Moving on | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | ativelkov to write to ML about repository re-organization | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | I did, we've got some valuable feedback | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | We need to discuss the technical details of this reorganization, I suggest doing it on today's meeting | 17:14 |
| ativelkov | ativelkov to schedule a meeting with Dmitry | 17:14 |
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| ativelkov | Dmitry stands for Dmitry Meytin here | 17:15 |
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| ativelkov | Yes, I've scheduled a meeting - it is on the next wednesday, | 17:15 |
| igormarnat_ | Meeting about repos, or? | 17:15 |
| ativelkov | igormarnat_: it is about DSL | 17:15 |
| ativelkov | They want to contribute but want to discuss the DSL design first | 17:16 |
| igormarnat_ | Ok. | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | #indo The DSL meeting is scheduled on Feb, 12 on 7 am PST | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | We are done with the AI's, I hope | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | one remain to be cleared | 17:17 |
| ativelkov | #action tnurlygayanov to help stanlagun with DSL Engine & YAML workflow unit tests | 17:17 |
| ativelkov | Let's proceed | 17:17 |
| ativelkov | #topic Status for release 0.4.1 | 17:17 |
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| ativelkov | katyafervent, could you share an update please? | 17:17 |
| katyafervent | ativelkov, sure | 17:17 |
| katyafervent | We are testing Floating IP auto-assignment feature and fixing bugs | 17:18 |
| katyafervent | Today we had bug scrub where we described all bugs that are left | 17:19 |
| ativelkov | Any ETA? | 17:19 |
| ativelkov | bug scrub - for this particular kilestone or a global one? | 17:19 |
| katyafervent | We plan to release on the 6th of February as expected | 17:19 |
| katyafervent | for a current release | 17:19 |
| ativelkov | #info 0.4.1 is on track, release planned for Feb, 6 | 17:19 |
| katyafervent | but we postpone some for the future | 17:19 |
| ativelkov | Good, thanks | 17:20 |
| ativelkov | This means that we need to have a full bug triage after we deliver this one | 17:20 |
| katyafervent | So now we need to test everything in a hard way :) | 17:20 |
| katyafervent | yes, but there are just few bugs left) | 17:20 |
| ativelkov | What do you mean by a hard way? | 17:20 |
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| katyafervent | That we have not a lot of time before release, need to test better | 17:21 |
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| katyafervent | Any questions? | 17:21 |
| ativelkov | It either mean we are very good, or we didn't do enough testing. I hope the former but assume the latter | 17:22 |
| ativelkov | No questions, thanks Katya | 17:22 |
| igormarnat_ | Katya meant we need to test like hell | 17:22 |
| ativelkov | #action all test 0.4.1 like hell | 17:22 |
| ativelkov | :) | 17:22 |
| gokrokve_ | We need BTFH. | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | BTFH? | 17:23 |
| igormarnat_ | OMG | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | what does it mean? | 17:23 |
| ativelkov | googling says "Bastard Technicians from Hell" but I don't want to think what may it mean | 17:23 |
| sergmelikyan | OMG | 17:23 |
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| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, you didn't read that old piece of art? | 17:24 |
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| ativelkov | probably not ) | 17:24 |
| stanlagun | We definitely need Bastard Technicians from Hell | 17:24 |
| ativelkov | Cool, in openstack you always have chances to learn something new | 17:25 |
| gokrokve_ | I meant Tester here | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | let's move on, guys ) | 17:25 |
| sergmelikyan | http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/ | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | #topic Glance activities review | 17:25 |
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| ativelkov | So, some quick update on this | 17:25 |
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| ativelkov | #info It was decided that Glance will move towards being an "Artifact repository" usable by other projects - and Murano will store its Application packages there | 17:26 |
| igormarnat_ | What is the timeframe? | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | #info The changes will be made to Glance's V2 API - appropriate additional will be made | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | additions* | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | So, that is not v3 or something | 17:27 |
| ativelkov | igormarnat_: J-release | 17:27 |
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| ativelkov | #The plan is to have the artifact-repository ready AND actively used by other project by the release time of OpenStack Juno | 17:28 |
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| ativelkov | Which means that first mvp should be ready at about J1-J2 | 17:28 |
| ativelkov | so the projects can adopt it | 17:29 |
| gokrokve_ | We will nedd to submit more granular BP for this work. | 17:29 |
| ativelkov | #info the artifact repository will be implemented as pluggable addition to the core glance, so different projects will be have their artifact repository logic implemented as plugins | 17:29 |
| gokrokve_ | Add data model and DB part. Add BP for API. Add BP for plugin interface. | 17:30 |
| ativelkov | #action ativelkov and gokrokve_ to submit more BPs to Glance | 17:30 |
| ativelkov | We'll work on this with Gosha | 17:30 |
| ativelkov | Meawhile, this timing means that the upcoming releses (0.5 and probably 0.6 or whatever it is called) will have to use our own homemda metadata repo | 17:31 |
| ativelkov | This means that we will continue improving our Simplified Metatada Repository - to add new DSL support there, and some simple DB etc | 17:32 |
| gokrokve_ | Which we can use for prototyping correct interfaces for Glance too. | 17:32 |
| igormarnat_ | I.e., 0.5 functionality | 17:32 |
| ativelkov | "homemda" stands for "home-made" | 17:32 |
| ativelkov | igormarnat_: yes | 17:32 |
| ativelkov | #info Simplified Metadata Repository to be imporved to support 0.5 and AppCatalog MVP | 17:33 |
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| igormarnat_ | BTW, speaking of MVP | 17:33 |
| gokrokve_ | Heh. There is an AI on me to defiine MVP requirements. It is still work in progress. | 17:33 |
| igormarnat_ | Yes | 17:33 |
| ativelkov | #action ativelkov to update project roadmap to reflect the metadata repository req's | 17:33 |
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| igormarnat_ | You need tp describe MVP in BPs | 17:34 |
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| ativelkov | Yes, igormarnat_, that's on me | 17:34 |
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| katyafervent | we do have bp for MVP, need to extend it | 17:34 |
| ativelkov | I have this in more to-do list, there are too much presentation activities right now, have to prioritise that. Will do this week | 17:34 |
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| ativelkov | #action ativelkov - create more MVP-releated blueprints | 17:35 |
| ativelkov | OK, should we move on? | 17:36 |
| igormarnat_ | ye | 17:36 |
| ativelkov | #topic New DSL status | 17:36 |
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| ativelkov | stanlagun, a quick update please? | 17:36 |
| stanlagun | DSL is almost ready. We have working/deploying ActiveDirectory service written on new DSL | 17:37 |
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| ativelkov | working/deploying means that Heat integration is migrated to the new engine? | 17:37 |
| stanlagun | Several important features left before it would be 100% complete | 17:38 |
| stanlagun | yes | 17:38 |
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| stanlagun | It produces correct Heat stack and Agent plans | 17:38 |
| igormarnat_ | What are the missing features? | 17:38 |
| ativelkov | What about advanced networking? Does it use some code from there? Or it just picks a random network to join? | 17:38 |
| stanlagun | 1. serialization of results | 17:39 |
| stanlagun | 2. Make it not do the whole deployment from scratch every time | 17:39 |
| stanlagun | 3. documentation :) | 17:39 |
| ativelkov | 4. Unit tests? | 17:40 |
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| gokrokve_ | Stan, is this available somewhere to look at? | 17:40 |
| stanlagun | yep. Need to invent how to test YAML scripts as well | 17:40 |
| ativelkov | #info DSL is almost ready. We have working/deploying ActiveDirectory service written on new DSL | 17:40 |
| stanlagun | No advanced networking as for now | 17:40 |
| stanlagun | Basically this is AD that we started Murano with | 17:41 |
| ativelkov | gokrokve_: https://github.com/istalker2/MuranoDsl afaik | 17:41 |
| gokrokve_ | By the way. There is a parallel conversation in #heat about Autoscaling. | 17:41 |
| ativelkov | #link https://github.com/istalker2/MuranoDsl | 17:41 |
| stanlagun | https://github.com/istalker2/MuranoDsl/blob/master/meta/com.mirantis.murano.services.windows.activeDirectory.ActiveDirectory/manifest.yaml | 17:41 |
| gokrokve_ | Looks like Icehouse Heat will not include any major changes in resource autoscaling. | 17:41 |
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| ativelkov | Then this means that we will have to implement Murano-driven autoscaling | 17:42 |
| gokrokve_ | Sounds like we will need to implement this as a part of Murano DSL, with events support. | 17:42 |
| gokrokve_ | yep | 17:42 |
| ativelkov | We'll be able (hopefully) to trasition to Heat when they are ready | 17:42 |
| ativelkov | New DSL engine supports events by design | 17:42 |
| ativelkov | Workflow actions are actually event handlers | 17:42 |
| gokrokve_ | Juno time frame. Sergey M. can actually pick up this BP and start moving it forward. | 17:42 |
| gokrokve_ | Cool. I definitely should take a look. | 17:43 |
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| ativelkov | #info Heat is not going to introduce new Autoscaling in Icehouse, need to make a homebrew solution | 17:43 |
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| ativelkov | gokrokve_: we definetly need to review the new engine | 17:44 |
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| ativelkov | #topic Dynamic UI to display Service descriptions | 17:45 |
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| ativelkov | A quick topic I wanted to point your attention to | 17:45 |
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| ativelkov | There is a new blueprint | 17:45 |
| ativelkov | #link http://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-fields-on-service-details | 17:45 |
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| ativelkov | I want this thing to be implemented in 0.5 | 17:45 |
| ativelkov | Need your input on possible implementation ideas | 17:46 |
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| ativelkov | This is required to simplify MS SQL Cluster deployment from user's perspective | 17:46 |
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| ativelkov | and probably other apps as well | 17:46 |
| ativelkov | Did anybody review this BP? | 17:47 |
| katyafervent | That's a good bp | 17:47 |
| gokrokve_ | By the way, what was a feedback from customer after MSSQL demo? | 17:47 |
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| gokrokve_ | Do they like it? | 17:48 |
| ativelkov | Yes, they did. They have rise a number of questions, mostly about supportability (they've asked if we had partnership with MS) and the amount of training required tu support murano and its apps | 17:48 |
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| ativelkov | (sorry for typos) | 17:48 |
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| ativelkov | However, there was no formal follow-up from John. Probably we should ping him | 17:49 |
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| ativelkov | So, about the blueprint | 17:49 |
| katyafervent | ativelkov, what do you want to discuss?) | 17:50 |
| ativelkov | katyafervent: could you please add your thoughts and suggestions on possible implementations to the BPs whiteboard? | 17:50 |
| katyafervent | Ok, I will think about it | 17:50 |
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| ativelkov | #action katyafervent to comment the blueprint on dynamic service descriptions | 17:50 |
| ativelkov | OK, wrapping up | 17:50 |
| ativelkov | #topic open discussion | 17:51 |
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| ativelkov | We have 9 minutes left, and two open topics to discuss | 17:51 |
| ativelkov | First is the repository reorganization | 17:51 |
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| ativelkov | sergmelikyan, the question is mostly to you: do we have any technical problems which prevent us from merging murano-api, murano-conductor and murano-repository into a single git repo? | 17:52 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, except no real reason to do it - no. Also, I have doubts about Conductor - since no common code between conductor and API are exist | 17:52 |
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| sergmelikyan | Merging API & Repository looks like good idea (If they will be rewritten to common framework like Pecan) | 17:53 |
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| igormarnat_ | Did you guys discussed changes in schedule for 0.5 given additional MVP reqs? | 17:54 |
| igormarnat_ | Are there any? | 17:54 |
| ativelkov | sergmelikyan, there were couple of reasons. We may think about API decoupling (as it was suggested in ML), but having a single repo for all the main services looks like a standard practice in openstack | 17:54 |
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| ativelkov | igormarnat_: we din't discuss yet, but the slight schedule slip is more then likely | 17:54 |
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| ativelkov | as soon as BPs and roadmap is updated, we'll update the schedule as well | 17:55 |
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| ativelkov | sergmelikyan, speaking about the common code - some really do exists: the DTOs which are present in murano-common | 17:56 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, but I don't agree on maintainability reasons that you was talking about. That is common practice since many projects emerged very early when Zuul was not so powerful. Now adding a new repo really easy and fully automated procedure | 17:56 |
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| stanlagun | we also would need to be able to run unit tests on several projects in single repo separately. And what is even more important to allow install them on different machnines so that number of API servers != number of repositories | 17:56 |
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| sergmelikyan | stanlagun, for example API and Repository may be merged in a single Python package, but have 2 different entry-points. | 17:57 |
| ativelkov | It looks like we need more disscussion and probably some voting on this topic, as we are not close to any agreement | 17:57 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, agree. Sorry, had no time to reply to your mail. | 17:58 |
| ativelkov | and we have 3 minutes left, so it is unlikely that we reach one anytime soon :) | 17:58 |
| ativelkov | Yes, let's continue the discussion in the ML | 17:58 |
| sergmelikyan | Ok | 17:58 |
| ativelkov | will return to this topic next time | 17:58 |
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| ativelkov | #agreed continue to discuss repo reorganization in ML | 17:59 |
| ativelkov | Any other urgent issues to discuss? | 17:59 |
| igormarnat_ | Not from me | 17:59 |
| ativelkov | Then thanks everybody for joining | 17:59 |
| igormarnat_ | TTYL. o/ | 18:00 |
| ativelkov | A quick announcement for those of you who are in the Bay Area | 18:00 |
| ativelkov | We have a meetup tomorrow, will speak about Murano | 18:00 |
| ativelkov | http://www.meetup.com/openstack/ | 18:00 |
| ativelkov | Will be happy to see you there | 18:00 |
| ativelkov | thanks | 18:00 |
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| ativelkov | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 18:00:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-02-04-17.03.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-02-04-17.03.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-02-04-17.03.log.html | 18:00 |
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| dkehn | hi | 19:01 |
| jistr | hi | 19:01 |
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| marios | hi | 19:01 |
| matty_dubs | Howdy | 19:02 |
| slagle | hi | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: but here.. ;) | 19:04 |
| SpamapS | #topic TripleO Meeting | 19:04 |
| tzumainn | hiya | 19:04 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: you need #startmeeting tripleo | 19:04 |
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| SpamapS | #startmeeting TripleO | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 19:04:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:05 | |
| SpamapS | right I got it backwards. ;) | 19:05 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:05 |
| jcoufal_ | :) hey guys o/ | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | HELLOOOO everyone | 19:05 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I'd endmeeeting | 19:05 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: and do it again without caps | 19:05 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: so it goes to the right log | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:05 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 19:05:21 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-02-04-19.04.html | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: deeeettails | 19:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-02-04-19.04.txt | 19:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-02-04-19.04.log.html | 19:05 |
| slagle | great meeting! | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 19:05:28 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | Take 2.. action | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 19:05 |
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| jomara | hello again | 19:05 |
| jcoufal_ | perfectionist... :) | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | #topic bugs | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:05 | |
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| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui | 19:06 |
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| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:06 |
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| jtomasek | hi | 19:06 |
| lsmola_ | hello | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | _5_ criticals.. ugh | 19:06 |
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| jrist | o/ | 19:07 |
| SpamapS | well at least 1 is fix committed | 19:07 |
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| SpamapS | We may have somehow broken our integration with the gerrit bot on Launchpad | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | because bug 1274846 is merged already | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | two untriaged bugs in tripleo | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1273882 you can self-triage bugs if you can at least assign an importance to them. FYI. :) | 19:10 |
| greghaynes | aha | 19:10 |
| SpamapS | overall though we seem to be staying ahead of triage. | 19:11 |
| SpamapS | Anybody have any other bugs they want to bring up? | 19:11 |
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| SpamapS | Onward | 19:11 |
| SpamapS | #topic reviews | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:12 | |
| SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:12 |
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| SpamapS | we're just barely keeping wait times at 1 day | 19:12 |
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| SpamapS | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt shows that people are definitely keeping up with "a review a day" | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | well, many people are :) | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | Does anybody have anything else to bring up regarding reviews? | 19:13 |
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| slagle | i would like more folks to look at the devtest doc changes in review, but other than that, no. | 19:14 |
| slagle | we need more eyes/opinions | 19:14 |
| matty_dubs | slagle: Do you have a link handy? | 19:15 |
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| slagle | matty_dubs: go to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tripleo-incubator,n,z | 19:15 |
| slagle | look at the open reviews :) | 19:15 |
| slagle | that are related to devtest | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | alright, good stuff | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:17 | |
| SpamapS | I think we have unreleased commits in most of the projects.. so we should probably make a pass to pick them up. | 19:17 |
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| SpamapS | anybody want to volunteer | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | ? | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | actually.. I'll do it | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | #topic CD Cloud status | 19:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:18 | |
| shadower_ | how long does it usually take | 19:18 |
| shadower_ | ? | 19:18 |
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| SpamapS | shadower_: 10 min or so. You just have to make a signed tag for each repo. | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | shadower: good to evaluate the commits and make sure you're being "semver compatible" :) | 19:19 |
| shadower | SpamapS: cool, I'll volunteer next week, then | 19:19 |
| SpamapS | shadower: sweet | 19:19 |
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| SpamapS | AFAIK with the CD cloud we're getting some timeouts and lifeless was investigating yesterday | 19:19 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: hi yes | 19:19 |
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| lifeless | heat isn't spawning instances w/nova | 19:20 |
| lifeless | its a bit of an issue | 19:20 |
| lifeless | also I've been rebuilding the ci-overcloud (with automation) so that consumed me | 19:20 |
| lifeless | that and discussing docs :P | 19:20 |
| lifeless | I have a hell day of meetings today - need another tripleo-cd-admin to log in and poke | 19:22 |
| lifeless | I'll get the ci-overcloud back up after my meetings | 19:22 |
| lifeless | so just look to cd-overcloud | 19:22 |
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| SpamapS | Ok I'll poke at tripleo-cd | 19:22 |
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| marios | lifeless: does it by any chance look anything like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/62469/ (the timeouts from heat re nova)... wondering if its same issue | 19:22 |
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| lifeless | marios: broadly yes | 19:23 |
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| marios | lifeless: ack, thanks. i put the scaling param into my tuskar template generation today and was trying to deploy with your new scale stuff | 19:24 |
| SpamapS | At this point we just need to dig into what took longer or didn't happen. :) | 19:24 |
| SpamapS | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:25 | |
| SpamapS | pleia2: dprince lifeless anything? | 19:25 |
| lifeless | in the last weeek | 19:25 |
| lifeless | we've scaled out the te farm to 10 servers | 19:25 |
| lifeless | the redeployed ci-overcloud will also have 10 hypervisors | 19:25 |
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| lifeless | this should let us keep up w/out queueing for current job definitions | 19:26 |
| lifeless | and probably add an overcloud job | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | woot | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | I'm making progress on getting fedora into nodepool (something rh has wanted when they bring up their cloud), being documented here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fedora-on-gate | 19:26 |
| lifeless | and maybe even a stack-update job | 19:26 |
| lifeless | pleia2: its independent of the RH cloud | 19:26 |
| lifeless | pleia2: we'll run ubuntu and fedora jobs in both clouds to get redundancy | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: right, we'll run it on both | 19:27 |
| lifeless | ack ack, tell you stuff you know :) | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | just mentioning rationale :) | 19:27 |
| lifeless | there's not been discussion yet about how we manage jobs | 19:27 |
| lifeless | e.g. do we partition across OS's | 19:27 |
| lifeless | or duplicate across OS's | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | seems like duplicate would find OS-related problems | 19:28 |
| lifeless | until we have a good feel on resource usage i'm inclined to suggest partitioning | 19:28 |
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| lifeless | but trying to get coverage of all the OS bits across the partitions | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | if we partition then won't we have a chance of commit 1 breaking commit 2 because 1 passes on Fedora but not Ubuntu? | 19:28 |
| lifeless | e.g. seed on Ubuntu, undercloud on fedora, we'll run most tools on both. Or something like that. | 19:28 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: no, because what runs on what would be constant | 19:29 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: we would have the chance for (using the example above) seed on Fedora to break or undercloud on Ubuntu to break | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: right thats the worry.. but I agree, not that big. | 19:29 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: remembering that seed and undercloud in-instance are identical, so it would be client-side only for those scenarios | 19:29 |
| lifeless | overcloud is more tricky, but if we have two configs we can get broad coverage similarly | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | Alright, shall we move on? | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | #topic open discussion | 19:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:31 | |
| SpamapS | We have a meetup! | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | It is planned. You should be RSVP'ing now. :) | 19:31 |
| pleia2 | yay! | 19:31 |
| jamezpolley_ | Woo | 19:31 |
| * matty_dubs RSVPed; is eager to meet many of you folks f2f! | 19:31 | |
| greghaynes | \O/ | 19:31 |
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| matty_dubs | (And to enjoy the not-New-England weather) | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | In luxurious Sunnyvale, CA | 19:31 |
| slagle | y | 19:31 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville is organising bulk rates | 19:31 |
| jamezpolley_ | I assume lifeless has me down as an implicit RSVP | 19:32 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville: you'll let us know when we can book, right? | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Sunnyvale+CA+USCA1116:1:US | 19:32 |
| lifeless | jamezpolley_: yes, you and our other new starter | 19:32 |
| lifeless | cody-somerville: / and how to :P | 19:32 |
| cody-somerville | lifeless: Aye. Will try to get details on that ASAP. | 19:32 |
| lifeless | RH and mirantis folk may be able to use the same rate | 19:32 |
| lifeless | if you want to hold of a couple days | 19:32 |
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| SpamapS | ouch.. compared to Boston.. | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Boston+MA+USMA0046:1:US | 19:32 |
| lifeless | I'm chatting with harlowja about using a Yahoo! training rooms - he kindly offered and they are perhaps better equiped for 'crowd of people connecting to internet' | 19:33 |
| lifeless | this is also in sunnyvale :) | 19:34 |
| harlowja | lifeless correct, we have free-internet :-P | 19:34 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: oh, yes, we do always have to deal with HP Corporate Network fun.. ;) | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | harlowja: near VTA? | 19:34 |
| harlowja | ya | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | cool | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | bonus | 19:34 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I hope you've got broadband :) | 19:34 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:34 |
| harlowja | 701 1st Ave, Sunnyvale, California 94089 | 19:34 |
| cody-somerville | Training rooms are often setup in a way that isn't really meant for collaboration. | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I bet they have at least 20Mbit ;) | 19:34 |
| cody-somerville | Can the room be reconfigured? | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | I am care-free, so transiting it down from SF each day (goodie!) | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | s/care/CAR | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | care too | 19:34 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: I have 70Mbps here | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | bragger. ;) | 19:35 |
| tchaypo | I've never been inside the yahoo offices, but I've seen the outside. I imagine they have fun views over Lockheed Martin and the nasa base | 19:35 |
| harlowja | i hope yahoo has bigger pipes than that, lol | 19:35 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: Hey, move to the first world already! | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | We have better buffalo wings here. | 19:35 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: HP is next door to lockheed :) | 19:35 |
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| lifeless | HP cloud that is | 19:35 |
| lifeless | anyhow | 19:35 |
| tchaypo | Hah. I've probably ridden past HP then and not noticed | 19:36 |
| lifeless | harlowja: I was mainly referring to policy limits, not physical glue. | 19:36 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: its up a dead end street | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | tchaypo: right next to Amazon, ironically. ;) | 19:36 |
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| harlowja | http://media.glassdoor.com/m/2c/78/7f/36/sunnyvale-campus.jpg | 19:36 |
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| harlowja | *better pictures online somewhere, lol | 19:36 |
| matty_dubs | Heh, I Google Mapsed the HP office and was kind of confused to see a bunch of military aircraft. | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | cloudy... so its legit | 19:36 |
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| SpamapS | Ok seems like that is enough for the meeting. | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | Anything else? | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | Alright, hasta la vista baby. | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 19:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 19:37:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-02-04-19.05.html | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-02-04-19.05.txt | 19:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-02-04-19.05.log.html | 19:37 |
| lsmola_ | thanks, have a good night | 19:37 |
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