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| russellb | we'll get started with the NFV meeting in just a couple minutes | 14:00 |
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| russellb | going to give it a couple minutes to make sure folks make it to the proper IRC channel | 14:00 |
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| mestery | o/ | 14:02 |
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| russellb | #startmeeting nfv | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 4 14:02:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
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| tianst | o/ | 14:02 |
| lukego | o/ | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| russellb | Hello! | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:02 | |
| vladikr | o/ | 14:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 14:02 |
| dandrushko | hi! | 14:02 |
| bauzas | o/ | 14:02 |
| yamahata | hi | 14:02 |
| russellb | who has joined us for our first chat? | 14:02 |
| * sgordon is here | 14:02 | |
| s3wong | hello | 14:02 |
| thinrichs | Hi all | 14:02 |
| cgoncalves | hi | 14:02 |
| nijaba | o/ | 14:02 |
| xuhanp | hi | 14:02 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV | 14:02 |
| heyongli | hi | 14:02 |
| foliveira | hi | 14:02 |
| cloudon | Hello | 14:02 |
| mestery | o/ | 14:02 |
| Alon | hi | 14:02 |
| pballand | Hi | 14:02 |
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| vladikr | Hi | 14:03 |
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| russellb | Agenda for today is on the wiki page | 14:03 |
| danpb | greetings | 14:03 |
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| russellb | for future weeks, we'll switch to an etherpad to make it easier for everyone to add topics ahead of time that they would like to cover | 14:03 |
| * nijaba is happy to see a full house | 14:03 | |
| russellb | yeah, a good crowd for sure | 14:03 |
| russellb | so let's jump to the first item ... | 14:04 |
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| russellb | #topic mission statement | 14:04 |
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| russellb | the first thing we should discuss is ... what do we want to achieve with this group? | 14:04 |
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| russellb | someone has drafted a mission statement here | 14:04 |
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| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nvf-subteam-mission-statement | 14:04 |
| russellb | excuse the typo in the URL :-) | 14:04 |
| nijaba | that was me with input from 3 or four others | 14:04 |
| russellb | nijaba: great | 14:05 |
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| russellb | so, everyone take a look at that and see what you think | 14:05 |
| sgordon | i think it captures the central parts of what we talked about @ summit | 14:05 |
| nijaba | and that must be my typo too :) | 14:05 |
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| russellb | if we can nail something down, we'll move it to the wiki page to be more static | 14:05 |
| ijw | looks good to me | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | but i know there are some questions about interaction with other projects/subteams | 14:05 |
| sgordon | particularly in the servicevm meeting yesterday | 14:05 |
| russellb | sgordon: yeah, let's cover that next | 14:05 |
| russellb | any concerns with the proposed mission? | 14:05 |
| cdub | +1 on mission | 14:06 |
| Alon | +1 | 14:06 |
| s3wong | +1 | 14:06 |
| FJRamon | +1 | 14:06 |
| nijaba | +1 | 14:06 |
| sgordon | +1 | 14:06 |
| lukego | +1 | 14:06 |
| cloudon | Any desire to pass feedback upstream to ETSI? | 14:06 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 14:06 |
| cgoncalves | +1 | 14:06 |
| russellb | #agreed mission statement as drafted on the etherpad looks good | 14:06 |
| tianst | +1 | 14:06 |
| JohnHaller | +1 | 14:06 |
| bauzas | +1 | 14:06 |
| russellb | great thanks :) | 14:06 |
| smazziotta | +1 | 14:06 |
| foliveira | +1 | 14:06 |
| SridarK | +1 | 14:06 |
| ndipanov | +1 | 14:06 |
| russellb | cloudon: hm, a good question | 14:06 |
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| dandrushko | +1 | 14:06 |
| cdub | cloudon: not a bad idea | 14:07 |
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| edube | +1 | 14:07 |
| adrian-hoban | The comment about "without any special hardware or proprietary software" may conflict with the need for 3rd party CI? | 14:07 |
| cdub | cloudon: i don't know if we need to formally capture in mission or have it be a side-effect | 14:07 |
| nijaba | adrian-hoban: "If special setups are required which cannot be reproduced on the standard OpenStack gate, the use cases proponent will have to provide a 3rd party CI setup, accessible by OpenStack infra, which will be used to validate developments against." should cover that | 14:07 |
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| russellb | cdub: as a side effect seems reasonable | 14:07 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, mmm i think the point raised was that everything must be testable on at least 1 open source impl | 14:07 |
| russellb | seems like a natural outcome as we go forward | 14:07 |
| cloudon | Happy with a side effect | 14:07 |
| sgordon | i think we possibly need to be more specific there | 14:07 |
| ijw | I think the point of that was that in all cases whatever we're up to should be testable by anyone in its base form of functionality, even if there are vendor specific bonuses. | 14:07 |
| cdub | russellb: agreed | 14:08 |
| sgordon | ijw, right | 14:08 |
| bauzas | adrian-hoban: I don't see a problem with the statement | 14:08 |
| adrian-hoban | Ok, +1 | 14:08 |
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| cgoncalves | cloudon: I would advice on following close to ETSI NFV terminology | 14:08 |
| mestery | +1 from me too | 14:08 |
| russellb | ijw: yeah i think that's key, that's pretty much how all of openstack is developed | 14:08 |
| bauzas | adrian-hoban: it leaves possibility to run 3rd-party CIs | 14:08 |
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| bauzas | adrian-hoban: for specific hardware resources | 14:08 |
| imendel | I find the ETSI terminology too cpmplex and less relevant for os | 14:08 |
| adrian-hoban | bauzas: Agreed, it will be needed for some use cases | 14:08 |
| russellb | so let's discuss the relationship of this group with other openstack teams | 14:08 |
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| cdub | cgoncalves: we discussed this at summit, i suggest we translate to openstack language | 14:09 |
| sgordon | cdub, right | 14:09 |
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| russellb | on the ETSI terminology concerns, let's come back to that in a few minutes when we get to use cases | 14:09 |
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| russellb | so, other groups, in particular, servicevm | 14:09 |
| cgoncalves | russellb: ok | 14:09 |
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| russellb | in general, i think it makes sense that some development efforts will be big enough that some specific coordination is fine | 14:09 |
| russellb | and i think this group is a bit more broad focused | 14:10 |
| cdub | russellb: what is the question, exactly? | 14:10 |
| russellb | across all of openstack, and gathering requirements | 14:10 |
| russellb | cdub: there seemed to be some concern with overlap with the servicevm effort | 14:10 |
| yamahata | What's the issue with servicevm? | 14:10 |
| russellb | sgordon: have some comments on that? | 14:10 |
| sgordon | i was just lurking the minutes there | 14:10 |
| sgordon | there is some overlap in terms of concerns about ETSI terminology | 14:10 |
| sgordon | and use cases | 14:10 |
| russellb | OK | 14:10 |
| cdub | russellb: ah, ok. it is likely that servicevm is relevant | 14:10 |
| yamahata | servicevm has mostly overlapped requirement as https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ServiceVM/neutron-and-other-project-items | 14:11 |
| russellb | so hopefully we can keep the ETSI terminology / use case translation work focused here | 14:11 |
| sgordon | although servicevm is a more specific effort in terms of having a specific set of deliverables | 14:11 |
| s3wong | russellb: what is the overlap? is there any development charter for the NFV subteam yet? or are we still working on requirements? | 14:11 |
| sgordon | now in the form of a service | 14:11 |
| ijw | ServiceVM has a large non-overlapping requirement, too, though | 14:11 |
| sgordon | whereas i see this effort as more broadly formulating and driving NFV requirements into openstack | 14:11 |
| NZHOU | I know there is going to have an open source project named OPN. This NFV team get requirement from vendors or operators directly or just from OPN? | 14:11 |
| sgordon | wherever that may be | 14:11 |
| ijw | NFV is creating user-run services. ServiceVM is about providing APIs to those services through Openstack. And in both cases I don't think we actually care who does the work as long as it gets done | 14:11 |
| sgordon | so servicevm, neutron, nova, heat, ipv6 subteam etc | 14:11 |
| cgoncalves | note that besides servicevm there is also the advanced services sub-team whih is covering some relevant NFV work items | 14:11 |
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| sgordon | ijw, +1 | 14:12 |
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| ijw | NZHOU: as in any community, I think we get our requirements from the community | 14:12 |
| russellb | ok, seems we're generally all with the same understanding about how these groups relate | 14:12 |
| russellb | wanted to make sure there wasn't major concern there | 14:12 |
| adrian-hoban | NZHOU: Both OPN and from vendors/operators | 14:12 |
| sgordon | i dont think there is a major concern | 14:12 |
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| sgordon | but we should collaborate when it comes to terminology and use cases | 14:13 |
| NZHOU | ijw: ok | 14:13 |
| sgordon | if it makes sense | 14:13 |
| russellb | #topic use cases | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | rather than independently creating two etsi -> openstack glossaries for example | 14:13 |
| russellb | we've done a nice job early on with gathering a big list of blueprints | 14:13 |
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| ijw | cgoncalves: The advanced services stuff is all about plugging the service VM services - and others - into Openstack. Again, they'll use the tools we make, but we won't have a complete overlap | 14:13 |
| russellb | i think one big work area for us is the use cases and terminology translation for openstack | 14:13 |
| ijw | I don't know how many ETSI bods we have, I know adrian-hoban is one... | 14:14 |
| sgordon | right, and the question there is do we want to target specific VNFs or more generally translate the ETSI NFV use cases | 14:14 |
| russellb | what would we like to accomplish in this area? | 14:14 |
| sgordon | in a way it's, how do we define success | 14:14 |
| FJRamon | II am not that sure if that mapping is actually required | 14:14 |
| nijaba | smazziotta: I think you are in ETSI NFV, right? | 14:14 |
| imendel | I thought we want to drive requirements. The ETSI use cases are far too high level | 14:14 |
| FJRamon | I guess most ETSI folks are familiar with OpenStack terminology as well | 14:14 |
| FJRamon | Yes | 14:14 |
| russellb | from an openstack developer perspective, I feel like we need a "tl;dr" of why this stuff is important | 14:14 |
| ijw | Personally, I was more interested in making it possible to run VNFs. I don't think we should be 'creating VNFs' for ourselves (and there perhaps the serviceVM guys really do want to do that) | 14:15 |
| imendel | not rwally | 14:15 |
| sgordon | imendel, agree | 14:15 |
| GGarcia | I am in ETSI NFV too. | 14:15 |
| smazziotta | yes. I need to register enovance :-) | 14:15 |
| GGarcia | fjrs, agree | 14:15 |
| sgordon | imendel, i am just trying to get a feel for how we get to something more specific | 14:15 |
| imendel | i gree, we need somthing specifc | 14:15 |
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| cdub | russellb: should we aim to have that for next week? | 14:15 |
| russellb | it would be nice to have something, even brief, written up that ties blueprints to the "why" | 14:15 |
| adrian-hoban | OpenStack fits _mostly_ in what ETSI-NFV describe as a Virtualisation Infrastructure Manager (VIM) | 14:15 |
| nijaba | ijw: would be happy to work with you on writing about this | 14:15 |
| russellb | cdub: yeah | 14:15 |
| GGarcia | Terminology in openstack is clear for most of ETSI folks | 14:16 |
| GGarcia | adrian-hoban, agree | 14:16 |
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| russellb | maybe a few people can go off and start a first cut at something? | 14:16 |
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| NZHOU | adrian-hoban:+1 | 14:16 |
| cdub | russellb: ok, i'll help with that | 14:16 |
| nijaba | russellb: volunteering | 14:16 |
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| adrian-hoban | russellb: Are you looking for a terminology translation or use cases? | 14:16 |
| russellb | ok great, who wants to coordinate it? | 14:16 |
| russellb | mainly use cases that the blueprints can be tied to, personally | 14:17 |
| ijw | Certainly we should draw the mapping diagram, if nothing else; it's always the first thing people want to see | 14:17 |
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| sgordon | so far ijw, cdub, nijaba | 14:17 |
| cdub | ijw: agreed re: building vnfs | 14:17 |
| sgordon | i am happy to assist as well | 14:17 |
| s3wong | adrian-hoban: I think russellb was talking about why the listed blueprints are relevant to NFV according to use cases | 14:17 |
| russellb | cdub: OK, want to coordinate it? | 14:17 |
| cdub | russellb: sure | 14:17 |
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| adrian-hoban | s3wong: Ok, makes sense | 14:17 |
| JohnHaller | In addition to VIM, there is some intersection between Heat and possibly new projects like Climate and the Management/Orchestration (MANO) | 14:17 |
| imendel | me too | 14:17 |
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| cdub | russellb: so sgordon, nijaba ...anyone else? | 14:17 |
| russellb | #agreed cdub to coordinate a first pass on starting some openstack use case documentation, contact him if you'd like to help | 14:17 |
| russellb | #undo | 14:17 |
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| adrian-hoban | There are ~9 key use cases that are being assessed | 14:17 |
| russellb | #note cdub to coordinate a first pass on starting some openstack use case documentation, contact him if you'd like to help | 14:18 |
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| adrian-hoban | I will help too | 14:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd also like to help | 14:18 |
| russellb | OK, let's come back to this next week and review what you guys come up with :) | 14:18 |
| s3wong | cdub: how can we contact you? | 14:18 |
| cdub | chrisw@sous-sol.org | 14:18 |
| russellb | and we'll have something more specific to poke holes in and discuss | 14:18 |
| GGarcia | Use cases in NFV are too detailed and telco-oriented to establish a mapping | 14:18 |
| cdub | may be slow until later today to reply | 14:18 |
| cdub | GGarcia: we need to dig under | 14:19 |
| ijw | telco oriented is rather the point of NFV, no? | 14:19 |
| sgordon | GGarcia, we need to find a middle ground to progress | 14:19 |
| ijw | Also, kind of the worst cases of what you'd like from network services, so in some senses the best way to drive an architecture. | 14:19 |
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| FJRamon | So the question I guess is what we do understand as use case | 14:19 |
| cgoncalves | perhaps a small contribution to the ETSI-NFV VIM part: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92477/6/specs/juno/traffic-steering.rst,unified (problem description section) | 14:20 |
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| cdub | FJRamon: that's a good question, and we started at fairly high level (ETSI driven) | 14:20 |
| GGarcia | FJRamon, cdub, sgordon: if we are meaning by use cases the ones here (http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV001v010101p.pdf), it is too complex | 14:20 |
| sgordon | GGarcia, we are actually saying that is too high level i believe | 14:20 |
| tvvcox | GGarcia> nfv use cases maps very well with HPC use cases.. that'd enrich the target cases for OSP... not to say that numa, sriov, etc generally speaking high performance VMs are a need today | 14:20 |
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| FJRamon | Yes, that is correct | 14:21 |
| s3wong | GGarcia: too high level actually | 14:21 |
| ijw | We have time. Let's see what we can do with the NFV docs in a week. We're not saying other people can't work independently if they have bright ideas and there's a mailing list out there too. | 14:21 |
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| russellb | sounds good | 14:22 |
| sgordon | cgoncalves, suggest adding it to the wiki if it's relevant for tracking | 14:22 |
| russellb | we can come back to this at the end in "open discussion" if needed | 14:22 |
| russellb | #topic blueprints and tracking | 14:22 |
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| adrian-hoban | Agreed that they are high level, but we can start with them and decompose into lower level requirements that are being expressed in the current set of blueprints that we have captured. | 14:22 |
| russellb | so, we've got a big list of blueprints, a good start :) | 14:22 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, that's the idea yeah | 14:22 |
| russellb | 1) how complete is the list of active work? | 14:22 |
| cdub | tvvcox: agreed and it's something i know i've been using to advocate | 14:22 |
| sgordon | :) | 14:22 |
| russellb | and 2) any thoughts on a better approach to tracking it all than wiki hacking? | 14:22 |
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| sgordon | so i think it was ijw raised on the list | 14:23 |
| sgordon | we need to define what is actually realistic for juno | 14:23 |
| ijw | russellb: like I said on the ML, I think what we have there is a lot of work but a lot of it is nice-to-have stuff | 14:23 |
| bauzas | russellb: we could make use of a gerrit dashboard | 14:23 |
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| sgordon | and the low hanging fruit that would get best bang for buck | 14:23 |
| ijw | You can do NFV if only you can get traffic from one VM to another, which is currently at issue | 14:23 |
| bauzas | russellb: provided all specs are tracked | 14:23 |
| russellb | bauzas: cool idea, willing to take a look at that? | 14:23 |
| adrian-hoban | Re 1), I think this is just the starting point, but a good one that we can build on | 14:23 |
| sgordon | right that sounds like a good idea bauzas | 14:23 |
| ijw | Beyond that, we should work out how to rate the rest and focus on what we can agree on and accomplish when we have the ground work | 14:24 |
| bauzas | russellb: okay, count me in | 14:24 |
| sgordon | im concerned that the wiki will grow stale | 14:24 |
| russellb | #action bauzas to take a look at building a custom gerrit dashboard | 14:24 |
| sgordon | so ideally that might provide something we can more easily automate | 14:24 |
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| tvvcox | cdub> there's many offerings from public cloud providers such as Amazon, Google, Verizon where high performance VMs are the differentiator | 14:24 |
| russellb | yeah, i was concerned about the work to keep it current, because if not current, it's not that useful | 14:24 |
| s3wong | ijw: an issue for getting traffic from one VM to another? | 14:24 |
| FJRamon | Yes, at line rate it is | 14:25 |
| russellb | ijw: yeah, i think some prioritization is a good idea. | 14:25 |
| cloudon | FJRamon: +1 | 14:25 |
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| cdub | tvvcox: exactly | 14:25 |
| russellb | both priority, as well as some breakdown of what we think is achievable in each release | 14:25 |
| cdub | tvvcox: e.g. look aw hpc aws flavors ;) | 14:25 |
| russellb | based on who we know is working on stuff | 14:25 |
| adrian-hoban | ijw: I think it's more complex than just connectivity, line rate, jitter, latency characteristics all important | 14:25 |
| GGarcia | FJRamon, cloudon: +1 40Gbps from one VM to another without loses | 14:25 |
| cdub | s/look aw/look at/ | 14:25 |
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| sgordon | i think the dashboard will be helpful | 14:26 |
| sgordon | but does that also help with priority? | 14:26 |
| russellb | i don't think so ... | 14:26 |
| sgordon | the other thing i started doing was tagging bugs | 14:26 |
| bauzas | sgordon: nope | 14:26 |
| sgordon | with nfv | 14:26 |
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| ijw | adrian-hoban: fair point, but again, you can test stuff with less than that | 14:26 |
| sgordon | unfortunately you cant do that with BPs | 14:26 |
| russellb | i think we need something else to communicate priority and release breakdown | 14:26 |
| bauzas | sgordon: that's only a high-level view of specs and patches | 14:26 |
| sgordon | bauzas, right | 14:26 |
| russellb | we don't really have anything for that in openstack infrastructure today | 14:26 |
| russellb | so we may just be stuck with doing that on the wiki | 14:27 |
| bauzas | russellb: +1 | 14:27 |
| cloudon | GGarcia,FJRamon: though lots of valuable control plane NFV apps don't need anywhere near line rate of course | 14:27 |
| sgordon | yes | 14:27 |
| ijw | s3wong: passing traffic without having it dropped by the fabric and firewalled by security groups, for starters | 14:27 |
| FJRamon | Yes | 14:27 |
| sgordon | i went to the storyboard session at summit but it doesnt quite seem ready for this | 14:27 |
| FJRamon | But there is not much work needed there | 14:27 |
| sgordon | (in particular no dep tracking) | 14:27 |
| sgordon | something to keep an eye on | 14:27 |
| FJRamon | The thing is that data plane is the elephant in the room | 14:27 |
| GGarcia | +1 | 14:27 |
| FJRamon | Most of the network equipment requires that | 14:27 |
| cdub | cloudon: true, i usually describe as spectrum | 14:27 |
| bauzas | russellb: if we create different gerrit users for P1, P2, etc. then we got our views :) | 14:28 |
| russellb | #agreed build gerrit dashboard for current design/code status, continue to use wiki to document priorities and release targeting for now | 14:28 |
| russellb | ^^ that sound good? | 14:28 |
| ijw | Well, given we meet for an hour a week, I think if we picked the first five to discuss over the next week we could make that work - more than that and how do we talk about them? | 14:28 |
| ramk_ | i think we should isolate the use cases between performance and functionality | 14:28 |
| sgordon | FJRamon, GGarcia so i think that feeds into the use cases discussion that cdub will follow up with the others | 14:28 |
| FJRamon | I agree | 14:28 |
| GGarcia | agree | 14:28 |
| bauzas | russellb: if we say that this patch is P1, then we add P1 user as reviewer of that patch | 14:28 |
| sgordon | e.g. "which blueprints directly relate to improving the control plane performance" | 14:28 |
| russellb | ijw: i like that | 14:28 |
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| adrian-hoban | Yes, we need to make sure we can deploy the data plane at sufficient performance. A number of items listed in the NFV wiki will help | 14:28 |
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| s3wong | ramk_: absolutely | 14:28 |
| sgordon | ramk_, performance, determinism, reliability | 14:29 |
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| bauzas | sgordon: that's the goal of tagging blueprints :) | 14:29 |
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| ijw | adrian-hoban: maybe you could point at the relevant stuff in an ML email? | 14:29 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 14:29 |
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| adrian-hoban | ijw: Sure thing | 14:29 |
| cloudon | ramk_, sgordon: +1 | 14:29 |
| russellb | it has been kind of open discussion throughout, but that's ok :) | 14:29 |
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| ijw | Can someone tell me if I got the BPs I wrote right, or if I missed anything? | 14:30 |
| cdub | russellb: current ML [NFV] tag is ad-hoc, at some point perhaps we formalize w/ infra request? | 14:30 |
| cdub | russellb: and ditto for #openstack-nfv | 14:30 |
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| sgordon | cdub, probably should do that now | 14:30 |
| russellb | cdub: yes, that's easy enough | 14:30 |
| adrian-hoban | cdub: +1 | 14:30 |
| russellb | #action russellb to formally request NFV mailing list tag | 14:30 |
| cdub | sgordon: i just figured we should prove we need it (by using it ;) | 14:30 |
| russellb | #action russellb to request infra management of #openstack-nfv IRC channel | 14:30 |
| lukego | Howdy! I am working on an NFV deployment for Deutsche Telekom this year. We want to use the standard upstream Juno release. We would need to upstream around 100 lines of simple non-disruptive code into OpenStack during this cycle. That's a VIF and ML2 mech driver for the open source Snabb NFV (http://snabb.co/nfv.html). If we get this upstream then it saves us maintaining a fork and it also makes it available to the community. | 14:30 |
| cgoncalves | ijw: please refresh the wiki page. just added the traffic steering BP. hope it is relevant to this team to track | 14:30 |
| ijw | cgoncalves: certainly wants consideration with the rest | 14:31 |
| lukego | Our blueprints, specs, and code are submitted last week and proposed for juno-2. There is a dependency on a new QEMU feature that should upstream any week now. | 14:31 |
| sgordon | lukego, thanks - that one is already listed in the wiki right? | 14:31 |
| lukego | Yep | 14:31 |
| sgordon | :) | 14:31 |
| GGarcia | :-) | 14:31 |
| ijw | I'd be surprised if you needed much help with that, lukego | 14:32 |
| cdub | lukego: have you had feedback on qemu dep? (e.g. capability negotiation?) | 14:32 |
| nijaba | russellb: how do we work on priorization? Vote? | 14:32 |
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| * ijw sits next to a Neutron core and can beat him with a stick till he gives you a +2 if you like | 14:32 | |
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| nijaba | ijw: nice to have :) | 14:32 |
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| lukego | cdub: afaik we are targetted for QEMU 2.1 and should merge real soon now. | 14:32 |
| sgordon | lukego, where is the qemu dep tracked | 14:32 |
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| yjiang51 | ijw: it will be better if two :) | 14:33 |
| russellb | i've set up an etherpad to work on the agenda going forward | 14:33 |
| sgordon | lukego, link to that as well might be useful | 14:33 |
| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:33 |
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| ijw | two cores, or two sticks? | 14:33 |
| nijaba | both | 14:33 |
| russellb | nijaba: fight over it? i'm not sure yet :) | 14:33 |
| adrian-hoban | lukego: We will need to check for overlap with some other proposals in the wiki | 14:33 |
| lukego | ijw: The risk I see is core devs being overloaded with too many BPs and these ones falling through the cracks. | 14:33 |
| cloudon | What practical help do folk envision this group being able to provide to help e.g. lukego's work reviewed and accepted? Direct reviewing, peer pressure etc? | 14:33 |
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| russellb | nijaba: i think we should discuss requirements in detail, a few each week as time permits, and have priority be a part of that discussion | 14:33 |
| ijw | lukego: do you have libvirt changes you need, too? | 14:33 |
| sgordon | lukego, yes that is where as a group we need to help prioritize | 14:33 |
| danpb | ijw: it is submitted to upstream libvirt and pending review | 14:34 |
| lukego | I’d like help to have the code reviewed so that it’s good enough to be merged upstream | 14:34 |
| nijaba | russellb: sounds good. | 14:34 |
| ijw | cloudon: best help is always work, so go review | 14:34 |
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| lukego | (and I am willing to help review the other stuff we prioritize here) | 14:34 |
| nijaba | russellb: priority should also be linked to commitment to do something too | 14:34 |
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| s3wong | cloudon: all of us can help code-review; and with enough +1s we will eventually get core's attentions | 14:34 |
| russellb | nijaba: +1 | 14:34 |
| russellb | s3wong: have you looked at setting up CI? | 14:35 |
| russellb | I think that's requirement if you have a new neutron driver | 14:35 |
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| russellb | err, i mean lukego | 14:35 |
| lukego | Our code is submitted to QEMU, Libvirt, Nova, and Neutron. Linked on the wiki (if you search for “Snabb”). We are blocked on QEMU merging our code right now but once that happens I hope we can merge everything quickly. | 14:35 |
| ijw | It is, and mestery's in the corner over there if you need expert advice on anything else Neutron | 14:35 |
| mestery | I'm already in contact with lukego on his stuff. :) | 14:35 |
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| lukego | russellb: I will setup 3rd party CI. Have to coordinate that with mestery. I am already developer/maintainer of one mech driver for Neutron so I know the ropes of that part pretty OK | 14:36 |
| russellb | less sticks, more carrots | 14:36 |
| russellb | lukego: ah cool | 14:36 |
| ijw | It'd need to be a really tough carrot. | 14:36 |
| mestery | I always use carrots, never sticks. :) | 14:36 |
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| lukego | Thanks all of the encouraging comments/suggestions (!) | 14:36 |
| adrian-hoban | lukego: Can you also have a look at some of the other blueprints related to hugepages & user space vhost? | 14:37 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: I looked briefly but saw no code ? | 14:37 |
| adrian-hoban | lukego: On the way... | 14:37 |
| lukego | OK. I will follow those BPs. | 14:38 |
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| russellb | lots of this stuff is just proposed designs so far | 14:38 |
| TapioT | :q1 | 14:38 |
| russellb | but it's important to get feedback on the designs | 14:38 |
| russellb | because that covers how we expose these things in openstack | 14:38 |
| russellb | which is often quite tricky | 14:38 |
| russellb | to do it in a way that is cloudy enough | 14:38 |
| russellb | so we need to make sure it's acceptably cloudy, but also satisfies what people actually need | 14:39 |
| lukego | I have everything implemented to an “alpha” level now. heavy development/testing is happening on code outside the tree during the Juno cycle. | 14:39 |
| Imendel | i am afraid of those being too hw specific | 14:39 |
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| adrian-hoban | russellb: Agreed, we need to give the NFV guys enough of control and at the same time keep the rest of the community safe | 14:39 |
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| GGarcia | Imendel: determinism and high performance requires some HW specific | 14:40 |
| Imendel | as per russelb remark | 14:40 |
| ijw | On BP review, please express horror and disgust on the ones I stuck up in a hurry - they really are blockers for a lot of things and I want to get them cleared out if people are happy with the proposals. | 14:40 |
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| ijw | (horror and disgust mainly at the formatting, they don't even pass spec tests right now...) | 14:40 |
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| Imendel | ggarcia , not sure i agree. at the end apps shoudnt care about hw choices | 14:41 |
| danpb | ijw: fyi you can just run 'tox' locally with no args to verify the specs | 14:41 |
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| ijw | I suspected there'd be a command, cheers danpb | 14:41 |
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| yamahata | ijw: I gave some comments on BP. but it was quick comments. later I need to look at it closely. | 14:41 |
| russellb | ijw: yeah, and let me know if you have trouble with it | 14:42 |
| adrian-hoban | Imendel: There is a need in NFV to be more specific about certain aspects of HW. Scale out cannot solve all of the perf related items we need to consider | 14:42 |
| FJRamon | Agreed | 14:42 |
| s3wong | ijw: thanks for filing them. even for serviceVM team some of those items were raised during the J-Summit | 14:42 |
| GGarcia | adrian-hoban, FJRamon: agree | 14:42 |
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| cgoncalves | ijw: which spec are you referring to, sorry? | 14:42 |
| ijw | russellb: doubtful - it was 2am and I was more interested in making sure they went up than whether they passed test, I wasn't exactly expecting them to go through first time of trying | 14:43 |
| ChristianM_ | s3wong: agree | 14:43 |
| Imendel | not saying tools shluldnt exist. but being very specific is a sleepery road | 14:43 |
| ijw | cgoncalves: the three in the first table on the meeting page | 14:43 |
| cgoncalves | ijw: ah, thanks. | 14:43 |
| smazziotta | on perf and determinisme , we can document precise use-case so that we can justify the need to these features in Openstack | 14:43 |
| ijw | s3wong: the problems we both hit aare much the same in terms of plumbing | 14:43 |
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| ChristianM_ | Imendel: some NFV use case will require some perf guarantee and HW knowledge could help here | 14:44 |
| FJRamon | Yes, that it the point | 14:44 |
| GGarcia | agree | 14:44 |
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| smazziotta | NFV use case like CDN or any data-plane VNF | 14:44 |
| ijw | smazziotta: It's not something you can work with without infrastructure help, certainly, be it constraint specifications or monitoring, but I don't have a mental picture of what you need to ask for there, I have to say, that's where adrian-hoban could really help | 14:44 |
| Imendel | i am aware of the use cases. i really dont think that nfv is the only one facing perf issues. | 14:44 |
| s3wong | ijw: agreed. 97716 was raised during transparent firewall discussion, and 97715 was repeatedly brought up just for having a service VM pool | 14:45 |
| Imendel | it doesnt means that nfv = hw aware. | 14:45 |
| adrian-hoban | smazziotta: I think that is part of the action a few of us agreed to work on for review next week | 14:45 |
| FJRamon | Yes, that is true | 14:45 |
| ChristianM_ | imendel: agree | 14:45 |
| ijw | ChristianM_: you have to be careful about 'HW knowledge' - there's an abstraction between you and the hardware. You really need to do things independent of HW at the API level. | 14:45 |
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| russellb | ijw: yes, and that's where things get tricky | 14:45 |
| ijw | (I say this having had 101 discussions about that sort of violation as a quick fix) | 14:45 |
| russellb | express something that allows you to express your performance requirements, without being hw specific | 14:46 |
| FJRamon | Imendel: But it is also true that I/O intensive only is essential in NFV, so you need to take different things into account | 14:46 |
| ijw | russellb: yup, and monitor to make sure you can take corrective actions | 14:46 |
| Imendel | russellb, yes | 14:46 |
| russellb | if you try to go hw specific in nova at least, you'll get rejected pretty quick | 14:46 |
| smazziotta | my point is that it's not all NVF that require HW awareness. it's only for data plane. agree ? | 14:46 |
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| ijw | russellb: beyond abstract connections to the outside world, the same is true of Neutron | 14:46 |
| FJRamon | I think that one thing is being hw specific and another being concrete on what you request in terms of machine layout | 14:46 |
| ChristianM_ | ijw: yes but for some IO intensive apps I might want to know where sriov is supported for example, a hw feature. But I agree about the abstractions | 14:47 |
| ijw | smazziotta: anything that needs a guarantee of service | 14:47 |
| cdub | e.g. "tie this VM to that core" vs. "give numa optimized VM" | 14:47 |
| Imendel | FJRamon, yes take under consideration but abstract the underlying from the need | 14:47 |
| ijw | ChristianM_: the answer to that is more often to constrain your VMs to run where you want them to run. | 14:47 |
| cdub | ChristianM_: that could be part of aggregate definition, for example | 14:47 |
| FJRamon | Imendel: I think we are saying the same but with different wording | 14:47 |
| ijw | Also, Paul Carver had good information on QoS and bandwifth allocation from work in AT&T that I rather liked | 14:47 |
| MikeBugenhagen | There are some Standard Telecom WAN abstractions that are used inter-company that will show up in NFV | 14:47 |
| adrian-hoban | Imendel: Certain optimisations are required in order to meet some of the requirements that NFV appliances will have | 14:47 |
| JohnHaller | It's not just dataplane, some of the control applications have some pretty high throughput, such as control plane protocol-aware firewalls | 14:47 |
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| Imendel | FJRamon, hope so... lets work the details in the design | 14:48 |
| FJRamon | Imendel: Yes | 14:48 |
| ijw | MikeBugenhagen: what specifically were you thinking of? | 14:48 |
| MikeBugenhagen | The Metro Ethernet forum service abstraction are commonly used | 14:48 |
| cdub | JohnHaller: hmm, makes the firewall a dp app, no? | 14:48 |
| cdub | (where the data in the dp is control plane traffic...) | 14:48 |
| FJRamon | The details on this discussion are relevant, and will be clearer once we have the use cases | 14:49 |
| ijw | cdub's right - dp is not necessarily customer traffic, it's any traffic that's being passed for the sake of passing traffic, really | 14:49 |
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| FJRamon | Not really | 14:49 |
| JohnHaller | cdub, yes | 14:49 |
| FJRamon | Depends on the order of magnitude | 14:50 |
| ijw | FJRamon: ? | 14:50 |
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| FJRamon | Broadly speaking in a carrier network there are two types of pipes: the big ones and the others | 14:50 |
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| ramk_ | regarding NFV use cases such as NFVIaasS, vCDN, reliability etc. we have a concrete proposal as part of the solver-scheduler blueprint. Would be glad to discuss further with whoever is interested | 14:51 |
| FJRamon | The big ones are 10 Gbps and above, essentially | 14:51 |
| cdub | so perhaps dataplane/controlplane aren't the useful categories | 14:51 |
| GGarcia | FJRamon, ijw: for me data plane means tens of Gbps processed by a VM, either a firewall, router or whatever | 14:51 |
| alank | would be interested to discuss the solver-scheduler | 14:51 |
| s3wong | ramk_: I am interested | 14:51 |
| thinrichs | I’m interested in the solver scheduler too | 14:52 |
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| cloudon | me too | 14:52 |
| cdub | ramk_: looks like a good way to handle our scheduling needs | 14:52 |
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| alank | data plane typically refers to normalised traffic from a give app that traverses one hop to the next......ingress/egress | 14:52 |
| bauzas | alank: what do you want to know ? | 14:52 |
| smazziotta | ramk_ : interested as well | 14:52 |
| russellb | ok, so i think the scheduler is interesting | 14:52 |
| ijw | GGarcia: You have to be somewhat realistic about this - you'll get 10s of Gbit through a service, but not necessarily through a single VM, depending on what you're doing. Also, even if a VM can do that speed it can do lower, for internal firewalling, and it can be vertically split if you really care about how many VMs you use | 14:52 |
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| alank | Control traffic is for apps mgmt/control | 14:52 |
| russellb | but from a practical perspective, i don't see it getting in short term | 14:52 |
| bauzas | russellb: +1 | 14:52 |
| russellb | i think nova's priority right now is getting the current scheduler prepared to be split out into an independent project | 14:52 |
| russellb | once that's one, there should be more room to focus on new scheduling approaches | 14:53 |
| bauzas | the current focus is to split the scheduler into a separate project | 14:53 |
| russellb | so that should be our view for when that can go in | 14:53 |
| adrian-hoban | ijw: We will have some options. E.g. SR-IOV progress we want to make in Juno. | 14:53 |
| alank | Do we really need to split the scheduler out to handle this? | 14:53 |
| ijw | yup | 14:53 |
| FJRamon | ijw: The real thing is that there are already VMs doing that | 14:53 |
| bauzas | alank: yup | 14:53 |
| alank | I am not sure i understand the reasoning | 14:53 |
| ijw | alank: I think it's more an issue of how many people want to change it in drastic ways at the same time | 14:53 |
| GGarcia | FJRamon: agree | 14:53 |
| alank | yes, would agree ijw | 14:53 |
| ramk_ | we can have a reasonable starting point without splitting the scheduler | 14:54 |
| russellb | ijw: yes, exactly | 14:54 |
| alank | +1 | 14:54 |
| russellb | it's partially an issue of priorities and bandwidth within the nova project | 14:54 |
| danpb | russellb: once the scheduler is split out, where will filters live - eg if we have a "numa scheduling" filter will that be in the schedular project or provided by the nova project as an add on ? | 14:54 |
| russellb | certainly fine to continue experimenting with it now | 14:54 |
| russellb | danpb: tbd :) bauzas ? | 14:54 |
| ndipanov | danpb, I hope that filter will be in befor the split | 14:54 |
| ijw | We can work on scheduling, but if we do it will have to be out of tree. I don't think we have better options than that right now. | 14:54 |
| bauzas | russellb: danpb: that's still a question unresolved | 14:54 |
| ndipanov | so we will have to decide along with other filters | 14:54 |
| russellb | yeah, i think new filters can go in now | 14:54 |
| danpb | russellb: i mean i would rather expect the latter myself | 14:55 |
| smazziotta | a lot of NFV use cases are dependant on the scheduler modifications... | 14:55 |
| danpb | otherwise we could end up with tight bi-directional coupling between nova & the schedular | 14:55 |
| ijw | And given the usual resource constraints with openstack dev that usually means people find other things to do in tree, in my experience... | 14:55 |
| russellb | i guess i'm sayuing ... if we can solve stuff with filters/weights ... much better chance of being merged | 14:55 |
| bauzas | danpb: probably nova could make use (or not) of an external scheduler depending on the operator choice | 14:55 |
| alank | agree, in my mind we should address what info we want to make available, then decide later how best to use that info for a given scheduler etc etc | 14:55 |
| alank | imho, filters and weights are insufficent | 14:55 |
| russellb | sure, that may be the case | 14:55 |
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| ijw | alank: I agree. We can't tell you what to do, we're just offering advice on the current situation. | 14:56 |
| russellb | anything that can't be solved with the current approach is just going to be further out | 14:56 |
| alank | filters adn weights are usefull for static | 14:56 |
| bauzas | alank: that's exactly why we spin-off the scheduler :) | 14:56 |
| ijw | And that advice is that regardless of what you want it's not all that likely you'll get this in in the Juno cycle | 14:56 |
| ramk_ | yup ... scheduler is the foundation for NFV | 14:56 |
| alank | agree ijw....thats what i would agree on and makes sense so we do something that others can find a use of that "info" for | 14:56 |
| bauzas | alank: some dynamic approach requires to get other metrics than the ones provided the usual way | 14:56 |
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| alank | Hmm......just to clarify, "scheduler is NOT the foundation for NFV"....its an "element in the NFV" | 14:57 |
| MikeBugenhagen | ramk : NFV may also introduce OAM end pionts that don't exist | 14:57 |
| ijw | bauzas: now, finding more metrics for scheduling with, you might get further than that | 14:57 |
| ijw | further with that, even | 14:57 |
| alank | +1 | 14:57 |
| yjiang51 | bauzas: currently the compute node provide an infra to provide metrics for compute node. | 14:57 |
| ramk_ | agree michael | 14:57 |
| adrian-hoban | alank: I also think the filters/weighs are insufficient in the medium to long term. We need to decide if the extensions being proposed now will be sufficient in Juno time frame? | 14:57 |
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| s3wong | 2 minutes, guys :-) | 14:58 |
| ijw | adrian-hoban: sufficient for what, precisely? They're almost certainly what you're getting regardless, to be pragmatic about it | 14:58 |
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| sgordon | yjiang51, it's infrequent though right? | 14:58 |
| russellb | yep, if we have proposed requirements that can't be met, let's put them on the agenda to discuss in more detail | 14:58 |
| alank | IF i may and i think ijw and adrian-hoban are saying the same, we should focus on "what information to gather and expose/make available" | 14:58 |
| russellb | maybe we can come up with some alternative approaches | 14:58 |
| GGarcia | Proposal of use case from Openstack perspective: VMs with high I/O BW requirements (tens of Gbps) | 14:58 |
| sgordon | whereas NFV typically wants more rapid updates to those metrics | 14:59 |
| yjiang51 | sgordon: depends on the requierment, yes. | 14:59 |
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| alank | Some of that will be through Nova, some through Neutron, some through other elements | 14:59 |
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| sgordon | alank, ack | 14:59 |
| adrian-hoban | ijw: Sufficient for deploying NFV at scale considering the increase in the complexity that will be needed in scheduling | 14:59 |
| ramk_ | is there any easy way i can share with the group the NFV scheduler proposal ? | 14:59 |
| s3wong | ramk_: ML? | 14:59 |
| russellb | i'm not sure what the NFV scheduler proposal is? | 14:59 |
| sgordon | did you send it to the list or was that just in the servicevm meeting i saw it? | 14:59 |
| alank | right sgordon, its more about acting before, not after | 14:59 |
| ijw | There's more than one, so that's hardly straightforward. | 14:59 |
| russellb | but yes, mailing list threads are good | 14:59 |
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| ijw | I would say 'more research needed' is likely to get us further on that. Some things we can commit, some we'd just have to test out | 15:00 |
| sgordon | ok i think people are drifting in for the next meeting | 15:00 |
| russellb | OK, we're out of time | 15:00 |
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| russellb | thanks for coming everyone! | 15:00 |
| russellb | see you all next week, same time, same place. | 15:00 |
| bauzas | thanks | 15:00 |
| s3wong | thanks! | 15:00 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| GGarcia | thanks | 15:00 |
| FJRamon | Thanks! | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 4 15:00:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-04-14.02.html | 15:00 |
| alank | ok, lets discuss further on mail thread | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-04-14.02.txt | 15:00 |
| cloudon | thanks | 15:00 |
| nijaba | thanks for running the show russellb | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-04-14.02.log.html | 15:00 |
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| MikeBugenhagen | ramk : it would be nice if we had a stack-nfv email distro list to sent that BP too | 15:00 |
| sgordon | we have people joining #openstack-nfv now as well | 15:00 |
| sgordon | fyi | 15:00 |
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| ramk_ | thanks, will send it to the mailing list | 15:00 |
| yamahata | thanks | 15:00 |
| ijw | -> #openstack-nfv, now open for business | 15:00 |
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| alank | cheers, bye. | 15:01 |
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| Swami | hi carl | 15:02 |
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| xuhanp | hello | 15:02 |
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| pcm_ | hi. I can onky be on for about 15 mins. :( | 15:03 |
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| pcm_ | will monitor the log | 15:03 |
| Swami | pcm_: thanks for the heads up. | 15:03 |
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| Swami | carl: hi | 15:04 |
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| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 4 15:05:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: distributed_virtual_router)" | 15:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:05 |
| Swami | hi folks, | 15:05 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: hi | 15:05 |
| mrsmith | hi hi | 15:06 |
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| Swami | ping armax | 15:06 |
| armax | Hi Swami | 15:06 |
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| Swami | Agenda: | 15:07 |
| Swami | DVR Progress update | 15:07 |
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| Swami | L3 Extension | 15:07 |
| Swami | L3 Agent update | 15:07 |
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| Swami | ML2/OVS update | 15:08 |
| Swami | L3 Extension - Update | 15:08 |
| armax | Swami: I can go | 15:08 |
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| Swami | armax I did see that you have pushed patches on the L3 Extension. | 15:09 |
| Swami | How is the review going. | 15:09 |
| Swami | can you give an update. | 15:09 |
| armax | so the patch in question is this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84223/ | 15:09 |
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| armax | I did some preliminary refactoring in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97028/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97275/ | 15:10 |
| armax | as for patch 84223, it has gone through a number of reviews | 15:10 |
| armax | I am now in the process of adding UT’s | 15:10 |
| armax | and I think it’s then ready to go back into swami’s hands | 15:10 |
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| armax | reason being, there are a number of issues unvelied during the review cycles that I am not sure how to proceed forward | 15:11 |
| armax | I expect to be done by the end of today, as for the UT’s | 15:11 |
| Swami | armax: Thanks for your help and patch update | 15:11 |
| armax | I tried the patch locally and it should get all the Jenkins’ jobs to pass | 15:12 |
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| Swami | Sorry I was a busy last couple of days, I can take a look at the review comments in a day or so. | 15:12 |
| armax | we will miss functional testing | 15:12 |
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| armax | because I’d hate to go the ‘wrong’ way of testing API extensions | 15:12 |
| armax | so for now I am sticking to UT proper | 15:12 |
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| armax | when functional testing in neutron is ready (something that marun_afk is working on) | 15:13 |
| armax | I’ll get that done | 15:13 |
| Swami | armax: yes that sounds reasonable. | 15:13 |
| armax | Swami: ping me back when you have some time | 15:13 |
| armax | that’s all from me | 15:13 |
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| Swami | armax: I did you that you have created an additional table for the handling the distributed routers, was that based on the review comments. | 15:14 |
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| armax | I did it for a number of reasons | 15:14 |
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| armax | we could have kept the extra column in the router table | 15:15 |
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| armax | but that was affecting plugins that did not support the extra attribute | 15:15 |
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| armax | also everything in the logic was cobbled together | 15:15 |
| armax | making extensibility and maintainability a lot more difficult | 15:15 |
| Swami | armax: Yes I realized it after seeing the patches. | 15:16 |
| armax | now l3 base and l3 dvr are a lot more decoupled | 15:16 |
| armax | which I think it’s beneficial | 15:16 |
| Swami | armax: Yes I went that route in my first couple of patches and then moved back again. | 15:16 |
| armax | also, I am planning of reconciling nsx’s implementation of distributed routing | 15:17 |
| armax | so that we’ll have a unique extension point.. | 15:17 |
| armax | but that’s for later | 15:17 |
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| Swami | armax: Ok thanks for the information. | 15:17 |
| armax | Swami: what made you go back on your steps? | 15:17 |
| armax | Swami: even though we can take this offline, I don’t want to hog the meeting | 15:18 |
| Swami | armax: I heard from the Juno summit that for any attribute extensions we don't need to introduce additional extensions. | 15:18 |
| Swami | That's what compeled me to go back to the original table instead of extensions. | 15:18 |
| armax | is there a discussion on the ML? | 15:19 |
| armax | there’s a discussion on idempotent DB migrations, but that’s slightly differnet | 15:19 |
| Swami | Yes I sent out an email to Mark/Kyle asking for their feedback on this. | 15:20 |
| armax | ic | 15:20 |
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| Swami | ok, I can discuss about this offline. | 15:20 |
| armax | Swami: sure | 15:20 |
| Swami | armax: Thanks for the update | 15:20 |
| Swami | L3 Agent Update | 15:21 |
| Swami | mrsmith: Any updates on the L3 Agent. | 15:21 |
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| mrsmith | we got SNAT sync'd up with Icehouse-ga | 15:22 |
| mrsmith | started moving to juno/top | 15:22 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: great | 15:22 |
| mrsmith | the merge doesn't look as bad as previous (ice-2 and ga) | 15:22 |
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| mrsmith | working on some corner-cases, etc | 15:22 |
| mrsmith | as part of moving to ga, we got all unit tests passing | 15:23 |
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| mrsmith | not much else to report | 15:23 |
| mrsmith | one question | 15:23 |
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| mrsmith | as far as the wip code 'patch' | 15:23 |
| Swami | mrsmith: that's good news | 15:23 |
| mrsmith | should we update that patch with juno/top or start a new submittal? | 15:24 |
| Swami | you might have to push the code with the top. | 15:24 |
| mrsmith | abandon the previous patch? | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Use the same patch. | 15:24 |
| Swami | You don't need to start a new patch. Just upate the original one with the new one. | 15:24 |
| mrsmith | ya - got it | 15:24 |
| mrsmith | same patch, but updated to juno/top - right? | 15:24 |
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| Swami | Yes, use the same patch, just rebase to the new top of the branch code and then merge your changes and do a git review. | 15:25 |
| mrsmith | k - sounds good | 15:25 |
| Swami | mrsmith: Thanks mike | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | swami - one outstanding issue is our rpc/plugin port binding issue | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | that is ongoing | 15:26 |
| mrsmith | you and murali are working that out right? | 15:26 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: I think we can move to the plugin instead of rpc, if there is not timing issue. | 15:27 |
| mrsmith | k | 15:27 |
| mrsmith | that is all from me | 15:28 |
| Swami | mrsmith: For the FIP, we don't have any issue for the plugin as far as the plugin does the port binding. | 15:28 |
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| mrsmith | I think you're right - we have SNAT remaining | 15:28 |
| Swami | For the SNAT I will check with Murali and confirm to you. | 15:28 |
| mrsmith | great | 15:28 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: Thanks for your information. | 15:29 |
| mrsmith | np | 15:29 |
| Swami | I think vivek is on FTO, so we don't have any update on the L2 Agent. | 15:29 |
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| Swami | Is murali in here. | 15:29 |
| Swami | ping murali | 15:29 |
| mrsmith | FTO = vacation :) | 15:30 |
| Swami | mrsmith: Thanks for the clarification | 15:30 |
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| Swami | Yes Yi in here | 15:31 |
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| Swami | rajeev: hi | 15:31 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: Hello | 15:32 |
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| Swami | rajeev: mrsmith just gave an update on the L3 Agent. | 15:32 |
| Swami | Do you have any update to share. | 15:32 |
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| Rajeev | csnat is coming along well | 15:33 |
| Rajeev | when is east-west expected t be in by? | 15:34 |
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| Rajeev | we can then start getting the n/s items in too | 15:36 |
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| mrsmith | did we lose Swami ? | 15:37 |
| mrsmith | ping Swami | 15:38 |
| chuckC | seems so | 15:38 |
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| chuckC | shift to open discussion until swami returns? | 15:41 |
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| mrsmith | swami is telling me he is having probs re-joining | 15:43 |
| mrsmith | looking back at the agenda | 15:43 |
| mrsmith | I think l3 extension was next | 15:43 |
| mrsmith | but I think we already hit that | 15:43 |
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| mrsmith | right armax? | 15:43 |
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| armax | yes | 15:44 |
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| Swami | folks back on | 15:44 |
| mrsmith | bam - there he is | 15:44 |
| Swami | sorry guys I got disconnected. | 15:44 |
| mrsmith | we hadn't gone far without you Swami :) | 15:44 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: Thanks for communicating. | 15:44 |
| Swami | Next topic I wanted to discuss is the Services. | 15:45 |
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| Swami | Is 'Yi' in here. | 15:45 |
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| Swami | we were discussing with the FWaaS team about addressing the FWaaS service with the DVR | 15:45 |
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| Swami | There is a mailing thread that we started with the team. | 15:46 |
| Swami | Rajeev: Did you hear anything back from Yi or Sumit on the FWaaS | 15:46 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: no, I haven't | 15:46 |
| Rajeev | not sure I am on the thread | 15:47 |
| Swami | ok, I will check with the FWaaS team tomorrow. | 15:47 |
| Swami | rajeev: Thanks | 15:47 |
| Swami | I will also check with "yi' on this. | 15:48 |
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| Swami | rajeev: before I got disconnected I was stating that we had plans to push the East-West first and move the North-South. | 15:49 |
| Rajeev | Swami: that makes sense. Tentative timeline you can share ? | 15:50 |
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| Swami | If have the csnat work coming up, then we can think about pushing both East-West and North-South | 15:50 |
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| Rajeev | sure. Any thoughts on how the scheduler is to be brought in? | 15:56 |
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| chuckC | swami is gone again | 15:57 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML'ers | 16:00 |
| Rajeev | Thanks for the meeting | 16:00 |
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| shivharis | hi all, DVR meeting is still in progress... | 16:01 |
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| chuckC | Sukhdev: previous meeting leader disconnected, so no #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| emagana | ah ok.. | 16:01 |
| banix | hi there | 16:01 |
| emagana | I am here anyway! | 16:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | chuckC: opps | 16:01 |
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| chuckC | Sukhdev: opps? | 16:01 |
| banix | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | chuckC: can you type #endmeeting with the meeting name | 16:02 |
| shivharis | hi all | 16:02 |
| chuckC | #endmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 16:02 |
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| Swami | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 4 16:02:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-04-15.05.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-04-15.05.txt | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-04-15.05.log.html | 16:02 |
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| asadoughi | ;) | 16:03 |
| chuckC | nice | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | cool - guys the previous meeting is now ended - | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Are we ready with our ML2 meeting | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | Hello again :-) | 16:03 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:03 |
| rcurran | hi | 16:03 |
| asomya | hello | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| chuckC | hi | 16:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 4 16:03:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
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| emagana | let's go for it | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic Agenda | 16:04 |
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| trinaths | Hi ML2ers | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I have one announcement - | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2 | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | Did you folks look at the new Neutron Policies wiki yet? | 16:05 |
| trinaths | Sukhdev: yes | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: thanks - I missed that :-) | 16:05 |
| banix | Sukhdev: yes, just a quick look | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronPolicies | 16:05 |
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| banix | Sukhdev: anything to update there wrt ML2? | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | There is really good info in there - | 16:06 |
| shivharis | yes, guick look from me too | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: I was going to ask the team to look at it and feel free to provide the feedback related to ML2 content | 16:06 |
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| banix | i see the mention of subteams and review process through that | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | When I started with OpenStack - I had to striggle to get this kind of info, so this is good for the new commers :-) | 16:07 |
| shivharis | sub-team section needs to be updated with sub-team reviews etc. | 16:07 |
| chuckC | NeutronPlugins is just a framework so far, too | 16:08 |
| rkukura | shivharis, banix: I’m not sure there is any general agreement on subteam reviews yet | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | Yes, there was a lot of discussion during summit about the sub-team roles - we should provide feedback to get it captured here | 16:08 |
| shivharis | rkukura: it can be a good start, to formalize this process | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: agreed | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this topic? | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Action items from last week | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: any update on the etherpad update? | 16:10 |
| trinaths | sub-team reviews means, the mentioned reviewers will review the spec. right ? | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | I looked at it earlier this week and made some updates | 16:10 |
| rkukura | I have not tried to set priorities yet, or anything like that | 16:10 |
| rcurran | Sukhdev, is this in regards to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Neutron_ML2_Juno_Spec_Tracking | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I’d like some input from the sub-team, and then will discuss with mestery what priorities we should assign | 16:11 |
| shivharis | rcurran: yes | 16:11 |
| rkukura | I think the various vendor-specific drivers need to generally have equal priorities | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | I have noticed no body signed up as reviewer for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93613/ | 16:11 |
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| nlahouti | sukhdev: looks like list not updated | 16:12 |
| rcurran | Sukhdev, ok, dumb q then, are engineers suppose to update this w/ new bp, specs or is just one person doing this work | 16:12 |
| rkukura | And BPs that effect the plugin itself, are needed by multiple drivers, and are generally considered useful should be higher priority than the drivers | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | rcurran: I’d hope we’d all update the etherpad as we do reviews | 16:12 |
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| banix | rkukura: makes sense | 16:13 |
| rkukura | and as we file BPs | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: rkukura had taken action to update it intially, but, now, I think any team member should be able to update it --- | 16:13 |
| shivharis | rkukura: +1 | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | otherewise it will get more and more out of date | 16:13 |
| rcurran | rkukura, i need to add three bp's (all cisco_nexus related) | 16:13 |
| rcurran | Sukhdev, ok - i'll add in these three BPs | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | but, I would like rkukura to monitor the priority | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: sure | 16:13 |
| rkukura | My big question about prioriies is whether we should try to priority within the new feature BPs, and whether the lower priority of these should be same as or below vender driver BPs | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | I would request the team to be reviewers on other specs as well and provide feedback | 16:14 |
| rkukura | s/try to priority/try to prioritize/ | 16:14 |
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| banix | I am wondering if having priority is a great idea | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: on thought would be based upon the impact on the others | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | s/on/one | 16:15 |
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| banix | i think wrt reviews considering the number of us and the number of reviews, the goal should be to hit all during the week | 16:15 |
| rkukura | banix: good goal | 16:15 |
| banix | dont want to create a queue before getting to the bigger Neutron wide queue | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | banix: this might help get them move along quckly | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | I’d like to be able to distinguish between things needed by several drivers and things that one person thinks are nice to have | 16:16 |
| shivharis | there may be things that may be contentious.. | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | On a second thought, if we made sure that we have at least two reviewers on each spec from this team, then we can leave on them to move the process along | 16:16 |
| banix | manishg: hi | 16:16 |
| manishg | banix: hi | 16:17 |
| manishg | sorry , got late today. | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: yes, that is what I meant by the impact to others | 16:17 |
| rkukura | The priorities we set on the BPs apply to both spec and code review priority, right? | 16:17 |
| banix | Sukhdev: yes i think that should be the main goal | 16:17 |
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| shivharis | rkukura: that is reasonable | 16:17 |
| rkukura | I want to make sure reviews for ML2 drivers aren’t so low priority that cores and others outside the team never look | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: good point…. | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | Ok, I’ll keep my action item for next week, and will chat with mestery about how we should be assigning these priorities | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | Once the sub-team blesses it, we will coordinate with the cores to get these approved | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Thanks | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this topic? | 16:19 |
| rkukura | Ideally, for drivers, core reviews should be mostly a rubber stamp if the subteam reviewers have done their jobs! | 16:19 |
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| trinaths | rkukura: for ML2 reviews, cores and outsiders need to have good understanding of the work flow rather than simple code review. | 16:20 |
| shivharis | #action rkukura to talk to mestery for blueprint priorities | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | #action: rkukura to discuss with Kyle for BP priorities | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | trinaths: agreed - that’s why sub-team reviews are so important - we are the ones that understand the work flows within ML2 in detail | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: banix to recruit folks interested in Moduler L2 agent implementation | 16:20 |
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| banix | There were a few emails on the ML. I have started coding and will have something out for comment/review before the next meeting; something people can comment on and can become the basis for writing the spec. | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | banix: any update? | 16:21 |
| trinaths | rkukura: okay.. | 16:21 |
| banix | matrohon: manishg and yamahata_ have been offering to help and I will get in touch with them and the rest as soon as I have the code out for review | 16:21 |
| shivharis | banix: code before spec? | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: :-) | 16:22 |
| banix | shivharis: not the final code; some sketches, a bit more as to figure out the details and options | 16:22 |
| shivharis | :-) I am fine... | 16:22 |
| manishg | shivharis: I think some skeleton code is much clearer than docs sometimes :) (imho) | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | banix: makes sense - kind of like POC.. | 16:22 |
| banix | during the previous discussions we said we need to work out the details a bit more so that has been my goal | 16:22 |
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| shivharis | where can i take a peek at the code? I am interestred.. | 16:23 |
| yamamoto | banix: i have an impression that you are mixing yamahata and me. | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: anything else? | 16:23 |
| banix | shivharis: will post to the mailing list when have something to share; well before the next meeting | 16:23 |
| banix | Sukhdev: that’s it for me | 16:24 |
| rkukura | banix: +1 | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs | 16:24 |
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| banix | yamamoto: sorry | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: the floor is yours | 16:24 |
| shivharis | ok | 16:24 |
| shivharis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1227336, thank banix for closure | 16:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1227336 in neutron "ml2 plugin update operations" [Medium,Fix released] | 16:24 |
| banix | shivharis: np | 16:25 |
| shivharis | also in this situation does the closure require that it will not be fixed? | 16:25 |
| shivharis | because it indicated that it is fixed.. | 16:25 |
| shivharis | moving on.. i dont have an answer to this hoping others had an answer | 16:26 |
| banix | shivharis: wasn’t sure what to use; there is a temp fix released; there is a plan to fix for the long run so wont fix didnt make sense | 16:26 |
| shivharis | banix: ok | 16:26 |
| shivharis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1193861 | 16:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1193861 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs to override bulk operations" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:26 |
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| shivharis | sukhdev: can this bug also have the same fate.... | 16:27 |
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| shivharis | sync work planned should cover this? | 16:27 |
| rkukura | I’m not sure this is related to sync | 16:27 |
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| banix | shivharis: dont think so | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: from the description it looks differnt - let me take action to discuss with Andre | 16:28 |
| banix | wasn’t this fixed? | 16:28 |
| rkukura | Is the description text true?: Bulk operations on the ML2 plugin will simply call each action sequentially within one transaction. | 16:28 |
| shivharis | can someone take this and update the stutus on this... | 16:28 |
| rkukura | If that is the case, and postcommits are called within that transaction, this is a valid bug | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | #action : Sukhdev to investigate bug 1193861 | 16:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1193861 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs to override bulk operations" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193861 | 16:29 |
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| shivharis | the title does not do justice, should be fixed | 16:29 |
| banix | ignore my last comment; this is a different bug | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: I will follow up on this one.... | 16:29 |
| shivharis | next bug i am following up with Oleg, have not heard back. | 16:30 |
| shivharis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1246737, pending response from oleg | 16:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1246737 in neutron "ML2 plugin deletes port even if associated with multiple subnets on subnet deletion" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:30 |
| shivharis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1236127 | 16:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1236127 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs additional unit tests" [Medium,In progress] | 16:31 |
| shivharis | need new owner... | 16:31 |
| shivharis | any takers.. requires unit test | 16:31 |
| shivharis | kyle needs to move it to someone..volunteers needed | 16:32 |
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| shivharis | dead silence. will tackle at a later time.... | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura and I will discuss this with Kyle - | 16:32 |
| shivharis | i am done with bugs for now.. more next time.. | 16:33 |
| rkukura | This might be a good task for someone new wanting to get started on ml2 | 16:33 |
| chuckC | I can try, but still working on my test environment | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | I was hoping some volunteer will rise :-) | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | chuckC: thanks | 16:33 |
| chuckC | np | 16:33 |
| shivharis | chuckC: get started, we will muster help for you. | 16:34 |
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| chuckC | shivharis: thanks | 16:34 |
| shivharis | chuckC: thx | 16:34 |
| shivharis | sukhdev: i am done | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: thanks | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | any question on bugs? | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Spec Reviews | 16:34 |
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| Sukhdev | We discussed about the etherpad earlier | 16:35 |
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| nlahouti | yamamoto: a question for you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89728/ is under your name as sub-team reviewer. Have you had chance to review it? | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | any body has anything more to add? | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | I’d like to clarify that everyone should update the etherpad as needed, make sure BPs are listed, add yourself as reviewers, etc. | 16:35 |
| nlahouti | rkukura: that's great | 16:36 |
| trinaths | Sukhdev: for code revies too can you add sub teams from ML2 for those which are already approved. | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: can you please sign up for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93613/ | 16:36 |
| rkukura | And when you do a review, please try to update the status line with the general state of the review | 16:36 |
| banix | do we do anything proactively when a spec is reviewed within the group and has a few +1s? | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: this is the one we discussed during summit in the POD area | 16:37 |
| yamamoto | nlahouti: yes i did +1 on it | 16:37 |
| rkukura | banix: I was thinking that once we have at least 3 sub-team +1s, and no -1s, we should update the status to something like “ready for core review” | 16:37 |
| shivharis | banix: start coding... :-) | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: I am hoping the members who sign up for spec review, will also do the code review | 16:37 |
| nlahouti | yamamoto: thx for the update. what is next step? can it be approved. | 16:37 |
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| trinaths | Sukhdev: how abot already approved ones, they dont have sub-team reviewrs. We need to update on that. | 16:38 |
| banix | rkukura: i think that is a good idea; so need to keep track of status. i think the owner can update when they see the +1s | 16:38 |
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| trinaths | [doubt] Am I eligible to do a (no-voting) spec review ? | 16:38 |
| banix | trinaths: of course | 16:38 |
| rkukura | banix: I agree the owner should do that status update | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: feel free to reach to the team members in that case for the reviews | 16:39 |
| rkukura | trinaths: Your vote counts within the subteam! | 16:39 |
| yamamoto | nlahouti: as it has two +1 already, ask for core review? | 16:39 |
| trinaths | banix: okay.. | 16:39 |
| trinaths | rkukura: sure.. | 16:39 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev, yamamoto: I’ll review that one | 16:40 |
| nlahouti | yamamoto: thx. | 16:40 |
| trinaths | I will mail the owner on doubts with respect to specs and post a review. | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: cool thanks | 16:40 |
| banix | yeah there a re a few spec with a few +1s | 16:40 |
| nlahouti | rkukura: thx | 16:40 |
| banix | i think we may just have a subsection for sub team approved and the owner can move the spec under that heading after seeing the +1s | 16:41 |
| banix | just a suggestion | 16:41 |
| shivharis | banix: +1 | 16:41 |
| rkukura | banix: Makes sense to me! | 16:41 |
| rkukura | Whay should the sub-team +1 threshold be? | 16:42 |
| yamamoto | banix +1 | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | banix: do you want to say anything on the Modular L2 agent BP? - It is on the agenda | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | I was kind of thinking we’d want 3 +1s just to make sure enough people have had a chance to review it | 16:42 |
| banix | Sukhdev: I said what I had earlier; Will have more next week. | 16:42 |
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| banix | rkukura: 3 +1s sounds reasonable | 16:43 |
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| banix | Sukhdev: hope that is ok | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | banix: yes - wanted to make sure you get the floor on this - as it is on the agenda | 16:43 |
| rkukura | So sub-team members - your vote counts - don’t give your +1 until you feel the spec or code is really ready for core review | 16:44 |
| banix | Sukhdev: thanks | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | On to the last topic - on the ML2 sync | 16:44 |
| trinaths | but reviews are specific to the reviewer views on the topic. As I see there can be many views for a topic for many. if there are 3 +1s and 1 '-1' what will be the case. | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: you had filed a BP for ML2 Sync, right? | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Yes | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: can we add that on the etherpad? | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: or did I miss it? | 16:45 |
| banix | trinaths: will try to answer the -1 and get the reviewer who gave -1 change the vote when satisfied | 16:45 |
| shivharis | will it be ok to move "sync", "ml2-agent" to high priority | 16:45 |
| trinaths | banix: oka | 16:45 |
| rkukura | trinaths: That might be a situation to discuss at this meeting if it cannot be resolved by ansering the comments and/or communicating wit hte reviewer who left the -1 | 16:45 |
| trinaths | rkukura: okay.. | 16:45 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Thats should be under planned, right? | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I think so | 16:46 |
| rkukura | On sync, I think we need to take a close look at the taskflow library and decide whether to try to use it at the plugin level and/or the driver level | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | Want to ask the team a question: Did every body had a chance to review the ML2 Sync spec | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: yes - did you have a chance to speak with Mark on that? | 16:47 |
| banix | Sukhdev: unfortunately missed it; have a link? | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: it is on the etherpad that we used to present at summit - | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | will look for it and post it again | 16:48 |
| banix | Sukhdev: thanks | 16:48 |
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| rkukura | I’ve been following the email discussion on task-based API, and kind of think that ML2 can address the sync using taskflow independently of decisions on exposing tasks in the API | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | I think we, as a team, need to review it and bless it…..as this will impact almost everybody | 16:48 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: bless what? | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: the direction which we want to take in regards to the implementation of the sync | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: we have few approaches to consider | 16:50 |
| shivharis | rkukura: in which case it is the plugin not the driver, that actually decides it if that is the approach | 16:50 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Weren’t we going to look into taskflow? If so, should we update the google doc after doing so, then do a formal BP spec once we have concensus on an approach? | 16:50 |
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| banix | yeah i think the sync operation is a substantial/significant new feature | 16:51 |
| shivharis | task level approach looks cleaner | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: correct…. | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: you were going to talk to Mark to get the info on taskflow…any luck on that? | 16:51 |
| shivharis | but will it cover all cases and nuances of vendor drivers/hardware? | 16:51 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: not yet - thanks for the reminder | 16:51 |
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| banix | is there anything beyond the taskflow library and doc itself that we can use to educate ourselves? | 16:52 |
| rkukura | shivharis: don’t know yet - haven’t done the investigation | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Shall I assign to action? | 16:52 |
| rkukura | banix: The task API email discussion is relevant | 16:52 |
| rkukura | sure | 16:52 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: sure | 16:52 |
| banix | rkukura: ok thanks | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | #action: rkukura to discuss with Mark regarding taskflow and provide feedback | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | we have 5 min | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | Any thing on folks mind? | 16:54 |
| trinaths | Freescale CI - voting status.. | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: what about it? | 16:54 |
| trinaths | currently non-votin | 16:54 |
| rkukura | I see code reviews and open discussion are not on today’s agenda - we need to keep up with these as well as spec reviews | 16:54 |
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| trinaths | need your reviews on the voting suggestion | 16:54 |
| asadoughi | ovs-firewall-driver is being discussed on mailing list.. lots of good feedback being addressed | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: good point… | 16:55 |
| shivharis | rkukura: i'll volunteer to take that on next meeting... | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: cool thanks | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: I am still not clear as to what is that you are asking? | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | trinaths: there is tons of info in CI stuff….do you have any specific question> | 16:56 |
| trinaths | Sukhdev: how can I move Freescale CI to voring | 16:56 |
| banix | not sure what is the process to get a CI system to voting status | 16:56 |
| trinaths | Sukhdev: voting* | 16:56 |
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| trinaths | as I see its the community decision | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: that should be brought up at IRC channel #openstack-infa | 16:56 |
| trinaths | from jeremy email | 16:56 |
| trinaths | okay.. | 16:57 |
| banix | i think now the CI systems start as non voting; may need to bring up in Neutron meeting? | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: did you discuss this there? | 16:57 |
| shivharis | trinath: can you ping anteaya on that, and also report back for edification | 16:57 |
| trinaths | reviewers kindly review my change for ML2 MD | 16:57 |
| fungi | trinaths: the process is that whatever project you intend to vote on needs to request that you have voting rights | 16:57 |
| trinaths | shivharis: sure will talk to anteaya | 16:57 |
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| fungi | trinaths: so perhaps a vote in the weekly neutron meeting or get kmestery to request voting access for you if this is neutron-related | 16:57 |
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| banix | fungi: trinaths yeah thats what i recall; bring up at Neutron IRC call or talk to mestery | 16:58 |
| trinaths | fungi: okay. | 16:58 |
| mestery | trinaths: Your CI is too new for votring rights IMHO. | 16:58 |
| emaganap | trinaths: I believe the voting will be accepted after the community verifies a consistent performance from the CI | 16:58 |
| anteaya | trinaths: anteaya will tell you to read this: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#permissions-on-your-third-party-system | 16:58 |
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| mestery | It hasn't been running long enough yet, and it's had issues over the past 2 weeks. FYI. | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: #openstack-neutron and #openstack-infra are the channels | 16:58 |
| trinaths | okay. | 16:58 |
| mestery | trinaths: Once it's stable, has been running well and correctly, I woudl be supportive of giving it voting rights. | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | trinaths: there you go…. mestery gave you the answer... | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | Folks we are almost out of time….. | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | any last thing? | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | mestery: any last word of wisdom? | 16:59 |
| trinaths | mestery: okay | 16:59 |
| emaganap | enjoy your day! | 17:00 |
| banix | Thanks all and have a great day/night | 17:00 |
| trinaths | mestery: patchset 24 did not fail | 17:00 |
| mestery | Sukhdev: Nope, that's it, thanks! | 17:00 |
| mestery | trinaths: OK, looking again. | 17:00 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | OK folks we are done | 17:00 |
| trinaths | thanks all | 17:00 |
| shivharis | bye, thanks all | 17:00 |
| rkukura | bye | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting networking_ml2 | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 4 17:00:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-04-16.03.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-04-16.03.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-04-16.03.log.html | 17:00 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting designate | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 4 17:03:12 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Heya - WHo's about? | 17:03 |
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| timfreund | hello | 17:03 |
| jmcbride1 | o/ | 17:03 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:03 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:03 |
| rjrjr_ | here | 17:03 |
| eankutse | here | 17:03 |
| tsimmons | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtx00ff | here | 17:03 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | Okay - So, there's only 1 agenda item today: | 17:04 |
| Kiall | #topic How does our dependency tree get updated based on our Atlanta sessions? | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/server-pools#deptree | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-design-summit-designate-session-2 | 17:04 |
| vinod1 | how about action items from last week? | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | Crap! Forgot about those. U-Turn | 17:05 |
| shakamunyi | hello team | 17:05 |
| Kiall | #topic Review action items from last week | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | So - 4 actions from last week, first was: eankutse to get initial answers to jbrattons questions | 17:05 |
| Kiall | second was similar, eankutse to pick Jbratton's brain on ops side of things for minidns/pools | 17:05 |
| eankutse | not much progress this week | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Okay - We'll leave them to next week? | 17:06 |
| eankutse | yes | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | Okay, next two were: | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | kiall to write our various initial load scenarios and kiall to file BP on exposing the NS (and SOA?) record in the V2 API | 17:06 |
| Kiall | As eankutse says, not much progress this week | 17:06 |
| eankutse | :-) | 17:07 |
| Kiall | Other duties have kept me from them. | 17:07 |
| Kiall | #action Carry forward all actions from previous week. | 17:07 |
| shakamunyi | ok | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | Apologies for that :) | 17:07 |
| Kiall | #topic How does our dependency tree get updated based on our Atlanta sessions? | 17:07 |
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| jmcbride1 | I posted that agenda item and can speak to it. | 17:08 |
| Kiall | I'm not sure who filed this one? | 17:08 |
| Kiall | (As a note - can we add names next to agenda items please? :)) | 17:08 |
| jmcbride1 | no prob, will do next time. | 17:08 |
| jmcbride1 | We did a lot of good work in the etherpad at the summit | 17:08 |
| Kiall | jmcbride1: was there a specific concern/question etc? or general discussion? | 17:08 |
| jmcbride1 | I want to be that info gets translated to blueprints so that anyone who works on them knows what to expect. | 17:08 |
| mugsie | yeah - afik, the basic break down is the same | 17:09 |
| mugsie | (aka the actual bp's) | 17:09 |
| mugsie | we just need to reflect the decissions in the bluerpints | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Ah - Okay, so I think the tree itself remains the same (or at the least, very similar). But - Yes - Notes from the etherpad's should be moved into the BPs for reference | 17:09 |
| jmcbride1 | mugsie: good, I wanted to get the validation. | 17:09 |
| mugsie | from a quick look, I don't see any glaring issues with the current tree | 17:10 |
| mugsie | I can take an action to update (or in some cases fill in) the blueprints | 17:10 |
| Kiall | mugsie: thank you - that would be great. | 17:10 |
| jmcbride1 | Sweet, thanks mugsie | 17:10 |
| mugsie | I should have a good start for the next meeting | 17:10 |
| Kiall | #action mugsie to translate etherpads over to launchpad blueprints. | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Once done, we should probably review them and agree the translation is correct + what we agreed etc | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:11 |
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| Kiall | Okay - Since there was only 1 agenda item, and it seems we're OK with it, we can move to Open Discussion - I have a few bits for that section :) | 17:12 |
| richm | o/ | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: missed one? | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | GRR -_- | 17:12 |
| mugsie | BIND9? or is that from last week? | 17:12 |
| Kiall | #topic Status of BIND9 backend driver (Ron) | 17:12 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:12 |
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| rjrjr_ | thanks! | 17:13 |
| Kiall | It was de-indented, I missed it :( | 17:13 |
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| rjrjr_ | i just wanted to give a status on what is going on with the BIND9 driver. i have been working on it on and off since the summit. | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | I've noticed :) It's nice to see it getting some attention | 17:13 |
| rjrjr_ | so, after talking to kiall, it seems like the BIND9 driver as written shouldn't work. | 17:14 |
| Kiall | But - It does. Which is little offputting :/ | 17:14 |
| rjrjr_ | but since it does, we think there might be an underlying issue with storage. | 17:14 |
| betsy | except for the delete bug :) | 17:14 |
| Kiall | betsy: well, the fix for that highlighted something.. weird.. is going on :) | 17:14 |
| rjrjr_ | even an add shouldn't work, but it does. 8^) | 17:14 |
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| rjrjr_ | in a nutshell, there is reason to believe commits are happening that are not explicit in the code. | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | So - Central wraps the storage changes in a TX, that TX will not be committed until after the backend operation succeeds. The problem is - the BIND9 backend is calling back out to central for info, which shouldn't be able to "see" the uncommitted DB changes. | 17:15 |
| rjrjr_ | i'm tracking down the problem to see if it is a general issue or an issue specific to a database (i'm using mysql). i have reason to believe it is specific to mysql. | 17:16 |
| rjrjr_ | mysql does autocommits and i've read enough to believe sqlachemy has some magic to perform to bypass mysql's autocommits. | 17:16 |
| mugsie | have you run mysql with full query logging on to see what happens? | 17:16 |
| mugsie | afik you can force mysql NOT to auto commit - can't remember how though | 17:17 |
| rjrjr_ | anyway, i wanted everyone to know i'm looking at it. regardless, the BIND9 driver will be rewritten to not use syncs to the backend database once i understand the underlying issue. | 17:17 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:17 |
| richm | If you are running code inside a transaction, shouldn't that code see what's happening inside the transaction? | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | if it shares the same connection it might actually | 17:18 |
| Kiall | richm: Oooo - Wait. How are you deploying the BIND backend? Inside central, or in the agent? | 17:18 |
| Kiall | richm: Oooo - Wait. rjrjr_: How are you deploying the BIND backend? Inside central, or in the agent?* | 17:18 |
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| rjrjr_ | richm: i'm looking at it. BIND9 backend is in central. but you bring up a good way for me to test this some more. | 17:18 |
| Kiall | I assumed agent - which means it would be separate DB TX, while if running inside central, it will be inside the same DB TX | 17:19 |
| richm | I don't understand - all backends run inside central? | 17:20 |
| rjrjr_ | but, as you can imagine, that just shows the issue. if someone uses the agent, things shouldn't work. | 17:20 |
| rjrjr_ | but, they are. 8^) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: exactly.. The fact that there is a different is an issue. If the issue is worth fixing is another matter, as mdns is coming in. | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | richm: you can run backend in designate-agent | 17:21 |
| mugsie | backends* | 17:21 |
| Kiall | richm: They can run inside central, or, inside the remote agent. The behavior is going to differ between the two I think. | 17:21 |
| rjrjr_ | that brings up a good question, is it worth my pursuing a rewrite of the BIND9 backend or do we wait for Juno? regardless, i am still going to track down if we have an issue here. | 17:21 |
| rjrjr_ | kiall: unless mysql autocommit is occurring. | 17:22 |
| rjrjr_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23256128/cannot-defeat-mysql-autocommit-via-sqlalchemy | 17:22 |
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| jmcbride1 | rjrjr_ We are not looking to adopt designate/bind before juno. | 17:22 |
| Kiall | autocommit should be disabled once you issue a BEGIN | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr_: I think it's valuable to continue, considering the issue it's identified. | 17:23 |
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| rjrjr_ | i will. i'll have an update at the next meeting. | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | Great - Let's chat after the meet re the embedded in central vs external agent if you want? | 17:23 |
| rjrjr_ | sure. | 17:24 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:24 |
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| rjrjr_ | so, rewrite BIND9 driver or not? | 17:24 |
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| jmcbride1 | Is it something the TC will care about for incubation? If not, I would wait. | 17:25 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: well, I think we should identify the issues external to bind9 driver, and fix the BIND9 driver assuming it's not a massive endeavour. Even if the only value is hardening the other components in the process | 17:25 |
| richm | +1 | 17:25 |
| mugsie | jmcbride1: not an issue | 17:25 |
| mugsie | Kiall: +1 | 17:25 |
| rjrjr_ | it won't be that easy because of how the serial number is updated right after the add/delete. | 17:26 |
| mugsie | it will also give us a heads up for the juno cycle | 17:26 |
| rjrjr_ | delete then serial number, both sync. add then serial number, both sync. | 17:26 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: well, I wonder if we can re-use some of the import/export code.. Load up the zonefile, make the change, write it out. Same as powerdns etc | 17:26 |
| Kiall | instead of calling back out to central for everything | 17:26 |
| Kiall | In theory, that should be pretty easy (theory often differs from reality though) | 17:27 |
| jmcbride1 | kiall: why not focus all our time on BIND in server pools/minidns? | 17:27 |
| rjrjr_ | okay, we can move on. | 17:27 |
| jmcbride1 | ^instead of fixing the current implementation | 17:28 |
| richm | I would like to get bind9 working for "legacy" clients/customers | 17:28 |
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| rjrjr_ | jmcbride1: we'd be waiting 6 months for BIND9 support. remember, we though most people are going to be interested in BIND. | 17:28 |
| Kiall | jmcbride1: Because in fixing the driver, we seem to have identified some issues external to the driver, I think ensuring we have a good way to handle these issues is a good thing. | 17:28 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: ++ | 17:28 |
| jmcbride1 | richm: OK, that is a great reason | 17:28 |
| Kiall | Okay .. So .. Open Discussion.. I have one: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/designate-specs/ | 17:29 |
| Kiall | All the OpenStack projects are moving from writing blueprints on the Wiki, to doing them in a specs repo. | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Ours has been setup, and is ready to go for newly written blueprints. | 17:29 |
| Kiall | An example from nova is http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova-specs/tree/specs/juno | 17:30 |
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| betsy | I knew that Heat had started doing that, but I didn’t know it was all of openstack | 17:30 |
| Kiall | Yep - Everything is slowly migrating | 17:30 |
| Kiall | Once rendered, the specs look like this: | 17:30 |
| betsy | What’s the advantage? | 17:30 |
| Kiall | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/99/97499/6/gate/gate-designate-specs-docs/7b3ae45/doc/build/html/ | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | betsy: code review etc of the specs similar to actual code | 17:30 |
| rjrjr_ | history maybe? | 17:30 |
| Kiall | ^ too | 17:31 |
| mugsie | betsy: it is clear when a blueprint is aprroved | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Sorry - Example rendered spec: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/99/97499/6/gate/gate-designate-specs-docs/7b3ae45/doc/build/html/specs/juno/example.html | 17:31 |
| tsimmons | So more of an official process for writing/reviewing blueprints. | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | tsimmons: yup | 17:31 |
| Kiall | tsimmons: exactly, and no horrible wiki markup :D | 17:31 |
| Kiall | (I'm an oddball who likes RST format ;)) | 17:31 |
| rjrjr_ | so, the core team will +2 the blueprints? | 17:31 |
| tsimmons | Kiall: That I can get behind. | 17:31 |
| mugsie | and it is much easier to leave feedback | 17:31 |
| mugsie | rjrjr_: yes | 17:32 |
| betsy | The wiki markup sucks | 17:32 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: Yes, the designate-core team have the +2/+A rights on the repo | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Now - launchpad blueprints should still be filed. | 17:32 |
| mugsie | but link to the review | 17:32 |
| Kiall | The name of the BP on LP should match the filename in the repo | 17:32 |
| mugsie | Kiall: it might be worth writing this up | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | The openstack-infra folks are working on some automation to manage the LP side, similar to what happens when you reference a bug in a commit message | 17:33 |
| mugsie | (or ripping it from another projects wiki) | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: Yea, I've not see anything on the other projects wiki yet | 17:33 |
| eankutse | Are dependency graphs auto generated here as well? | 17:33 |
| rjrjr_ | i notice Gerrit has some sort of time limit on how long things are shown on the list without activity. | 17:33 |
| Kiall | eankutse: no, Launchpad will still be used for that kinda thing. The specs repo replaces the use of the Wiki | 17:33 |
| Kiall | e.g. we used to have LP+Wiki, now we have LP+Specs | 17:34 |
| eankutse | thx | 17:34 |
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| mugsie | rjrjr_: that only kicks in after a negitve review | 17:34 |
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| mugsie | aka a -1 or a failed build test | 17:34 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: I actually think that's been disabled now | 17:34 |
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| rjrjr_ | cool. | 17:35 |
| rjrjr_ | was troubling to see my WIP disappear. | 17:35 |
| betsy | So should we change to this for any open blueprints? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | pools | 17:35 |
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| betsy | Or just new ones in the future | 17:35 |
| mugsie | i will move them to this anyway | 17:35 |
| Kiall | betsy: If a wiki page already exists, I'd say no. Otherwise, yes. | 17:35 |
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| betsy | kiall: cool | 17:35 |
| Kiall | Cool :) | 17:36 |
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| Kiall | Next one I had was - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97348/ - Add Designate DevStack/Requirements/Docs Jobs | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Just an FYI these jobs will be coming in real soon now. | 17:36 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:37 |
| Kiall | DevStack is obvious - same thing we had before, just as part of OpenStack CI directly. | 17:37 |
| mugsie | real soon - we need them for incubation ;) | 17:37 |
| Kiall | The docs job validates the docs don't fail to build. | 17:37 |
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| Kiall | and the requirements jobs validates our requirements align with https://github.com/openstack/requirements | 17:37 |
| Kiall | All are requirements for incubation and/or gradutation. | 17:37 |
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| Kiall | To start - There all non voting, i.e. a fail won't prevent a merge, after we're happy they are stable, we'll switch them to voting. | 17:38 |
| Kiall | Any Q's? | 17:38 |
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| richm | sounds good | 17:38 |
| betsy | +1 | 17:39 |
| eankutse | +1 | 17:39 |
| Kiall | Cool .. That was all I ad to add.. :) | 17:39 |
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| Kiall | Anyone else? | 17:39 |
| mugsie | i have one | 17:39 |
| betsy | I have something | 17:39 |
| mugsie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97609/ | 17:39 |
| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97609/ | 17:39 |
| betsy | go ahead | 17:39 |
| mugsie | voting is underway for incubation | 17:39 |
| mugsie | so keep an eye on that link above | 17:40 |
| eankutse | Yay! | 17:40 |
| mugsie | once that reaches a consensous - we will be incubated | 17:40 |
| richm | how to configure gerrit to email any time there is any activity in a review? | 17:40 |
| Kiall | mikal has given us an -1.. Hopefully we can convince him to change his mind after updating the incubation application :P | 17:40 |
| mugsie | add yourself as a reviewer | 17:40 |
| Kiall | richm: you can Star it | 17:40 |
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| Kiall | or do that | 17:40 |
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| betsy | James Blair made a comment that he wants devstack running first | 17:41 |
| Kiall | Yep - I'm pushing to get that devstack change merged :) | 17:41 |
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| mugsie | yeah - so Kiall's last link has to merge | 17:41 |
| Kiall | I've asked infra to review it as a priority, not that they don't have enough to do already ;) | 17:41 |
| mugsie | that was a pretty much universal req from them | 17:41 |
| richm | star - how do I "star" a review? | 17:42 |
| mugsie | at the top beside the title | 17:42 |
| richm | Ah - I see - to the left of the text "Commit Message" there is a "hollow" star | 17:42 |
| Kiall | Yep | 17:42 |
| richm | If you click on it, it gets filled in with yellow | 17:43 |
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| vinod1 | What happens after you "star" the review? | 17:43 |
| richm | Then if you go to the "Starred Changes" link, it will show up | 17:43 |
| mugsie | thats all i had | 17:43 |
| Kiall | Okay, anyone have anything else? | 17:43 |
| betsy | me | 17:44 |
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| betsy | Kiall - we had talked about whether RecordSet table should be split or not | 17:44 |
| betsy | I talked to a dba this week (different than the last one I talked to) and he agreed with you that it should remain one table | 17:44 |
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| betsy | So, I’ll rewrite the bp to reflect that | 17:44 |
| betsy | We’ll only split out the Record table | 17:45 |
| Kiall | betsy: cool - I'm happy to hear that, the split of the RRSet table made me nervous :) | 17:45 |
| betsy | :D | 17:45 |
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| betsy | that’s all I had | 17:45 |
| Kiall | (for those who weren't around, we discussed splitting the Record and RecordSet table into a table per RRType (A, AAAA, MX, etc) | 17:46 |
| Kiall | Okay - Anything else? 13 mins or so left. | 17:46 |
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| mugsie | i am good | 17:47 |
| Kiall | I'll take silence as a no :) | 17:47 |
| rjrjr_ | also good. | 17:47 |
| eankutse | nothing | 17:47 |
| Kiall | Okay - Thanks all | 17:48 |
| Kiall | Ill go bug infra people again ;) | 17:48 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 4 17:48:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-04-17.03.html | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-04-17.03.txt | 17:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-04-17.03.log.html | 17:48 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 17:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 4 17:59:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 17:59 |
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| iccha1 | o/ | 17:59 |
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| vgnbkr | o/ | 17:59 |
| kevinconway | o/ | 17:59 |
| kevinconway | jumping the gun there SlickNik ? | 17:59 |
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| SlickNik | just giving folks a couple of extra minutes to arrive. :) | 18:00 |
| amrith | o/ | 18:00 |
| mattgriffin | o/ | 18:00 |
| kevinconway | i know we have a big agenda for today | 18:00 |
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| cweid | o/ | 18:01 |
| vipul | o/ | 18:01 |
| glucas | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | Yeah, agenda at: | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting#Agenda_for_Jun_4 | 18:01 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
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| SlickNik | Previous meeting summary: | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-05-28-18.00.html | 18:02 |
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| grapex | o/ | 18:02 |
| juice | o/ | 18:02 |
| juice | o_ | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | Okay let's get started. | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | #topic Action Items | 18:02 |
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| juice | o_, | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | just one here: | 18:02 |
| cp16net | yup | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | cp16net make etherpad for breaking up the modules for log auditing bug | 18:03 |
| cp16net | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1324206 | 18:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1324206 in trove "audit logging levels" [Low,New] | 18:03 |
| cp16net | couple links | 18:03 |
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| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Juno-Trove-audit-logging-levels | 18:03 |
| cp16net | so i wrote this up and dougshelley66 started on some of this | 18:03 |
| dougshelley66 | yes - schang, peterstac and I have signed up for some | 18:04 |
| kevinconway | man that todo person has a lot of work! | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | Sounds good. Thanks for signing up, dougshelley66, peterstac and changsimon | 18:04 |
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| dougshelley66 | cp16net - we should make sure we are all on the same page w.r.t. the use of the i18n stuff | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | thanks for looking at this dougshelley66 and schang and peterstac | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | I'm going to try and recruit aginghipster to look at some of this too. :) | 18:05 |
| cp16net | nice | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | that is the awesomest handle ever | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net: Thanks for the follow up. Anything else to add? | 18:06 |
| cp16net | dougshelley66: yeah we should make sure of that | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | SlickNik: i dont think so | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | cp16net: should we finalize that discussion here? | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | so everyone sees it? | 18:07 |
| cp16net | dougshelley66: that might not be a bad idea | 18:07 |
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| dougshelley66 | cp16net: go for it | 18:08 |
| cp16net | what is the differences you are seeing? | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | #Topic i18n discussion | 18:08 |
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| dougshelley66 | so the logging standards doc talks about the use of _LE(), _LI() etc | 18:08 |
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| dougshelley66 | but i don't think we believe these are "baked" yet | 18:08 |
| cp16net | OH... | 18:08 |
| cp16net | right | 18:08 |
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| kevinconway | where are these topics coming from? | 18:09 |
| cp16net | so the log translation page was talking about using _LI() _LW _LE _LC | 18:09 |
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| iccha1 | kevinconway: follow up from the follow up of action items from prev meeting | 18:09 |
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| cp16net | i could not determine yesterday what benifit they have for the translation | 18:09 |
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| cp16net | kevinconway: they are coming from the common incubator | 18:10 |
| cp16net | gettext changes | 18:10 |
| cp16net | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/gettextutils.py#n133 | 18:10 |
| cp16net | i saw that denis_makogon added a review to pull in these updates | 18:10 |
| amrith | denis_makogon has this change set https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97472/ | 18:10 |
| cp16net | which is fine but i dont think its nesseary to make these changes globally | 18:11 |
| cp16net | if it comes to be an issue later we can go back and change it | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | but i dont think there is a precedent set yet for this | 18:11 |
| cp16net | i'd just rather not mandate something thats not really used any where | 18:12 |
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| dougshelley66 | right so the proposal is to continue using _() | 18:12 |
| cp16net | yes | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: that sounds good to me. | 18:12 |
| cp16net | any concerns about that decision | 18:12 |
| amrith | I have a question related to this ... | 18:12 |
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| amrith | in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77551/ (for example) I requested denis_makogon make some changes to localize strings which didn't use _() | 18:13 |
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| amrith | I had suggested he use _LE() ... etc., | 18:13 |
| amrith | I'm assuming that reviewers are still to identify strings which aren't localized | 18:13 |
| amrith | and suggest using _() | 18:13 |
| amrith | is that correct? | 18:13 |
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| amrith | or do we expect this independent project to go find all strings and periodically _()'ize them? | 18:14 |
| amrith | <end-of-question> | 18:14 |
| dougshelley66 | amrith: i believe we are saying that it is too soon to switch to those _LE etc notations | 18:14 |
| cp16net | amrith: there is a script that creates the po files for locaization | 18:14 |
| dougshelley66 | and more specifically, that anyone working on the logging audit shouldn't do that | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | amrith: So reviewers should still look out for string that are localizable and point them out if they're not using _() | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | amrith: I believe we're saying that we're not mandating to use _LE() though. | 18:15 |
| amrith | ok, thanks SlickNik | 18:15 |
| dougshelley66 | SlickNik: what is the short term review verdict if someone uses _LE() etc? | 18:16 |
| amrith | (and dougshelley66 and cp16net ) | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | I think the short term verdict is that they would need to wait until the oslo gettextutils sync merges. | 18:16 |
| dougshelley66 | ok so after that gets merged is it ok for people to start using those new notations? | 18:17 |
| cp16net | yeah it would break otherwise | 18:17 |
| dougshelley66 | cp16net: ? | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | I think so. We probably have to verify (as part of the merge, perhaps) that the new way is working. | 18:18 |
| cp16net | i think it would be fine but its not something we should -1 about | 18:19 |
| dougshelley66 | ok thx | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | sounds good. | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | Thanks guys. Let's move on. | 18:19 |
| cp16net | ok we beat this one down | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | #Topic Juno-1 release to be cut next week | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | seems so soon | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | So we're gonna be tagging the Juno-1 milestone next week. | 18:20 |
| dougshelley66 | yeah, my hangover is just wearing off | 18:20 |
| hub_cap | aww yea | 18:20 |
| iccha1 | SlickNik: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/list-datastore-type-and-versions needs to be tagged | 18:20 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | So can you guys go through your bugs and bp and make sure things are tagged correctly. | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-1 | 18:21 |
| vipul | ok | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-troveclient/+milestone/juno-1 | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove-integration/+milestone/juno-1 | 18:21 |
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| cp16net | oh boy | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | If there's something that should be there and isn't showing up, let me know. | 18:21 |
| cp16net | or if you cant change the bug/bp let us know | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | Beginning next week, I'm going to be bulk moving a lot of the items that are not going to be completed in Juno-1 to Juno-2 | 18:22 |
| cp16net | i should say let SlickNik know ;-P | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | Yes, send me a note on IRC :) | 18:22 |
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| cp16net | SlickNik: when you "next week" is there a day its going to happen? | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net: different projects are doing it on different days. | 18:24 |
| cp16net | ok | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: sometime between Tuesday and Thursday. | 18:24 |
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| cp16net | gotcha | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | I was planing on getting it done early on Tuesday. | 18:24 |
| cp16net | ok | 18:24 |
| iccha1 | thanks for the heads up | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | Okay, that's all I had on this. | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:25 |
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| SlickNik | Anything else? | 18:26 |
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| amrith | yes, a quick question | 18:26 |
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| amrith | could someone share a link for this new workflow thing? | 18:26 |
| amrith | in review's | 18:27 |
| amrith | I've seen some people set it but I'm not sure what it means | 18:27 |
| cp16net | amrith: the -1 on workflow? | 18:27 |
| amrith | cp16net ... yes | 18:27 |
| amrith | and it's twin, the +1 | 18:27 |
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| cp16net | right its used for "work in progress" | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Workflow −1 = Work in Progress, 0 = Ready for review, +1=Approved | 18:28 |
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| cp16net | there ya go thanks SlickNik | 18:28 |
| amrith | so, if a developer submits a patch set and after review he/she sets it to -1 | 18:28 |
| amrith | does it mean not yet ready for review? | 18:28 |
| cp16net | right the developer has the control of that | 18:29 |
| iccha1 | yeah it means you are still working on it | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | amrith: yes, that means they're aware they still need to make changes to the review, and are working on it. | 18:29 |
| amrith | OK, thanks | 18:29 |
| iccha1 | useful if u want to show early work on a patch | 18:29 |
| iccha1 | even though its not ready yet | 18:29 |
| cp16net | or make a patch show its age | 18:29 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:29 |
| amrith | ok, cool | 18:29 |
| amrith | I guess one can safely update the search filter to include workflow != -1 ;) | 18:29 |
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| amrith | thanks | 18:30 |
| amrith | nothing more from me | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | Np, thank you! | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | Anything else? | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | *crickets* | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 4 18:31:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-04-17.59.html | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-04-17.59.txt | 18:31 |
| grapex | Thanks SlickNik! | 18:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-04-17.59.log.html | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | Thanks guys! | 18:31 |
| cp16net | thx | 18:31 |
| esp | thx! | 18:31 |
| iccha1 | thanks SlickNik | 18:31 |
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| cweid | devs: Can you folks peep dis. Fixing the redis pkg name. https://github.rackspace.com/Cloud-Database/Cloud-Database/pull/840 | 19:29 |
| cweid | oh totally wrong window... | 19:31 |
| cweid | sorry | 19:31 |
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