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| tchaypo | who's excited? | 06:54 |
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| shadower | woke up 30 minutes ago, so... | 06:55 |
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| d0ugal | woo! | 06:56 |
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| tchaypo | so clarkb greghaynes | 06:56 |
| * greghaynes dances | 06:56 | |
| tchaypo | if it's already too hot for you guys to sleep... are you looking forward to raleigh? | 06:57 |
| greghaynes | I dont think clarkb is going | 06:57 |
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| greghaynes | Also, I have A/C. clarkb is too hot because he hasnt moved down to PDX yet | 06:57 |
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| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 06:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 25 06:59:56 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tchaypo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 06:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 07:00 |
| tchaypo | Welcome everyone! | 07:00 |
| lsmola | hello | 07:00 |
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| tchaypo | I'd like to start this week with a reminder that anyone can use #info and #link to get notes into the meeting minutes | 07:00 |
| GheRivero | morning! o/ | 07:00 |
| tchaypo | I'm happy to summarise lengthy discussions, but if you've just got something quick to say and you'd like it to be noted, please feel free to tag it yourself :) | 07:00 |
| tchaypo | We're following the agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO#Agenda_for_next_meeting which I'm not going to paste here | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #topic bugs | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:01 | |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 07:01 |
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| tchaypo | How are we going this week? | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | I'm not seeing any unassigned criticals on incubator | 07:03 |
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| tchaypo | GheRivero: do you have an update for bug 1319979 ? | 07:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1319979 in tripleo "rabbitmq-server fails to restart in check-tripleo-overcloud-precise" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1319979 | 07:04 |
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| tchaypo | or bug 1316985 ? | 07:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316985 in tripleo "set -eu may spuriously break dkms module" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316985 | 07:05 |
| GheRivero | tchaypo: I'm going to close it. We haven't hit it in a long time | 07:05 |
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| GheRivero | for 1316985: waiting for the select-boot-kernel element to land... | 07:05 |
| tchaypo | GheRivero: woot, thanks | 07:05 |
| GheRivero | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98758/ | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | So that leaves 4 other criticals on -incubator and one on DIB that I can see | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | not terrible | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | Does anyone have any bugs they want to talk about? | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | I'm taking that as a no. | 07:07 |
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| tchaypo | #topic reviews | 07:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:07 | |
| tchaypo | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | Looking at http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 07:08 |
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| tchaypo | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | Average wait time: 8 days, 23 hours, 32 minutes | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | 1st quartile wait time: 1 days, 12 hours, 33 minutes | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | Median wait time: 5 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 11 days, 21 hours, 38 minutes | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | It seems like the 3rd quartile hasn't changed much since last week, but the average is much higher than my memory | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | but http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-17-19.01.log.txt says my memory is wrong | 07:09 |
| lsmola | vacation time starts, so it will get worse :-) | 07:10 |
| greghaynes | -2 days on 3q | 07:10 |
| greghaynes | which is good | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | #info 3rd quartile has dropped from 13 days 12 hours to 11 days 21 hours over the last week, other quartiles roughly unchanged | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | Have people been using the dashboard? | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | or gertty? | 07:10 |
| greghaynes | Also reviewing from longest waiting without -1 | 07:10 |
| GheRivero | gertty! I'm loving it! | 07:11 |
| d0ugal | gerrty? I've missed what this is. | 07:12 |
| xuhaiwei_ | don't know gerrty too | 07:12 |
| shadower | yea I've been using the dashboard | 07:12 |
| greghaynes | stackforge/gertty | 07:12 |
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| d0ugal | greghaynes: thanks | 07:12 |
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| d0ugal | I have been using the dashboard tho', its nice. | 07:12 |
| marios_ | damit... sorry am late | 07:12 |
| StevenK | marios_: Where is your note? :-P | 07:13 |
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| tchaypo | marios_: greetings! | 07:13 |
| marios_ | morning all :) | 07:13 |
| tchaypo | I've been using gertty too | 07:13 |
| tchaypo | but unless we have anything else to note here, I'll move along | 07:14 |
| StevenK | I haven't, I've been doing reviews with a bookmark I have. | 07:14 |
| tchaypo | #info stackforge/gertty is a tty-based locally-caching client for gerrit, so you can do reviews on a plane | 07:14 |
| marios_ | so our efforts to clear older patches don't seem to have made much of a dent yet :( | 07:14 |
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| marios_ | any ideas? | 07:15 |
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| tchaypo | marios_: we've dropped the 3rd quartile by about 1.5 days over the last week, even though many in the US are on vacation. | 07:15 |
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| marios_ | tchaypo: ah, i missed that bit, i thought it was much of the same | 07:16 |
| marios_ | 07:10 < greghaynes> -2 days on 3q | 07:16 |
| marios_ | cool | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | the other quartiles are much the same :) | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | I think that suggest we've been hitting hardest on the oldest ones | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | I've been trying to do some reviews in projects/repos I'm less comfortable with, to try to learn something about those projects | 07:17 |
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| tchaypo | #topic Projects needing releases | 07:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:18 | |
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| tchaypo | Do we have a volunteer? | 07:18 |
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| tchaypo | StevenK: maybe we could bash this out together on friday? | 07:18 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Neither of us have the access to do so. | 07:19 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: then let's not | 07:19 |
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| marios_ | StevenK: what access? | 07:19 |
| tchaypo | What access is required? | 07:19 |
| marios_ | i've never donw it before and am scared it would eat my week | 07:19 |
| d0ugal | marios_: my thoughts exactly :) | 07:19 |
| StevenK | You need to be able to push signed tags, which requires you to be a member of the tripleo-ptl group on gerrit | 07:20 |
| tchaypo | and the members of that group are.. | 07:20 |
| shadower | where's rpodolyaka and jdob when you need them | 07:20 |
| shadower | I'll do it. Have access already | 07:20 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: does that mean all cores? | 07:20 |
| marios_ | shadower: or did you have to do something else? | 07:20 |
| StevenK | It doesn't mean all cores | 07:20 |
| shadower | marios_: there's a different group for doing releases | 07:20 |
| shadower | #note shadower will release all the things | 07:21 |
| shadower | moving on | 07:21 |
| marios_ | shadower: ah... will ask you after | 07:21 |
| StevenK | List is https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/200,members | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | Does that command work? | 07:21 |
| shadower | #info shadower will release all the things | 07:21 |
| shadower | (sorry) | 07:21 |
| marios_ | shadower: fyi https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/ReleaseManagement | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | It's going to be in the notes at least once now :) | 07:22 |
| shadower | marios_: I know, I've done a release before | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/ReleaseManagement | 07:22 |
| StevenK | There's a dib-utils patch that should land before releasing | 07:22 |
| marios_ | shadower: ah apologies :) | 07:22 |
| shadower | StevenK: link? | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | #topic CD Cloud status | 07:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:22 | |
| StevenK | shadower: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102291/ | 07:22 |
| shadower | thx | 07:23 |
| shadower | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102291/ should land before releasing dif-utils | 07:23 |
| tchaypo | Do we have anyone who can talk about the CD cloud status? I have a feeling we don't have anyone in this timezone at the moment who knows the current state | 07:24 |
| marios_ | derekh around? | 07:25 |
| marios_ | no, seems. he sometimes is this time of day | 07:25 |
| jprovazn | he has PTO | 07:25 |
| marios_ | ah | 07:25 |
| marios_ | lazy | 07:25 |
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| lsmola__ | lol | 07:25 |
| tchaypo | I'm going to note that lifeless mentioned last week that https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1325114 was in the way, and that seems to be unresolved | 07:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1325114 in tripleo "can't deploy underclouds with VLAN API endpoints" [High,Triaged] | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | I believe ng has made some progress toward getting hp1 operation | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | and I believe jerryz is in the early stages of getting a third region for us, provided by huawei | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-hp1-rebuild still in progress | 07:28 |
| StevenK | \o/ | 07:28 |
| tchaypo | #info quaoting lifeless from last week: please help with restoring vlan and public endpoint support so that we can get hp1.tripleo.orgback online and > double our CI capacity | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | Moving on... | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | #topic CI | 07:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:29 | |
| tchaypo | #link http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/s_tripleo-jobs.html | 07:29 |
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| tchaypo | We had some bad times with CI this week which clarkb was isntrumental in helping us get to the bottom of | 07:30 |
| tchaypo | I believe we still have a temprevert in tock_devtest.sh because of a commit in neutron | 07:30 |
| StevenK | The revert to neutron hasn't landed? | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101395/ seems to have landed | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | #info so I think we can remove the temprevert now | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | #action tchaypo will prepare a patch to revert the temprevert | 07:32 |
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| tchaypo | Anything else? | 07:33 |
| tchaypo | The summary on goodsquishy looks good, but I'd love if it went back further in time | 07:33 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: You should talk to derekh about that. | 07:33 |
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| tchaypo | StevenK: not while he's on PTO | 07:34 |
| StevenK | Of course. There was an unspoken "when he's around" | 07:34 |
| tchaypo | #topic tuskar | 07:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tuskar (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:34 | |
| marios_ | guys the juno specs still need to land | 07:35 |
| marios_ | this is a priority | 07:35 |
| marios_ | sec | 07:35 |
| d0ugal | marios_: +1 | 07:35 |
| marios_ | https://review.openstack.org/94720 | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | I was about to say... | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tripleo-specs,n,z | 07:36 |
| greghaynes | I should have another swing at that | 07:36 |
| marios_ | https://review.openstack.org/97553 | 07:36 |
| d0ugal | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97553/ | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | #Info we still have several specs that need urgent attention | 07:36 |
| marios_ | shadower: the mergepy one? | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | #link https://review.openstack.org/94720 | 07:36 |
| marios_ | (kinda relevant to tuskar as it will be a consumer right?) | 07:36 |
| d0ugal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97553/ | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | #link https://review.openstack.org/97553 | 07:36 |
| d0ugal | oops | 07:36 |
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| tchaypo | heh | 07:37 |
| marios_ | anyhow, we've mostly had red hat eyes on those so far | 07:37 |
| shadower | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97939/ | 07:37 |
| marios_ | i think we've got them to a good state but would be best to get more eyes please. but time is critical | 07:37 |
| tchaypo | marios_: worth a mail to the list reminding people that we need to land these? | 07:37 |
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| greghaynes | we got a new iteration on the tuscar one less than a day ago so it looks like its moving again | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | shadower: I think that's not related to tuskar | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | however | 07:38 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: sure, i'll give it till this afternoon when jdob is around, i think he may have already pinged lifeless about them | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | i think we should add a "specs" section to the agenda | 07:38 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: +1 | 07:38 |
| shadower | tchaypo: iiuic, the tuskar specs kind of rely on it | 07:38 |
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| shadower | I know the API spec does | 07:39 |
| shadower | +1 for specs in the agenda | 07:39 |
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| tchaypo | #info tuskar API spec (at least, possibly other tuskar things) also depend on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97939/ | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | Do we have other notes about tuskar? | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | #topic one-off agenda items | 07:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "one-off agenda items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:40 | |
| tchaypo | #info For those attending the TripleO mid-cycle sprint in Raleigh, the hotel details have been posted to the etherpad | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup | 07:41 |
| marios_ | yeah... so in the end I am not going to mid-cycle, fwiw | 07:41 |
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| greghaynes | chmod 600 $TRIPLEO_ROOT/*-env.json | 07:41 |
| marios_ | got approval yesterday, but after looking at flights so late now, I told my manager it really doesn't make sense :( | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | #info please make your booking ASAP, the group booking expires very very soon | 07:41 |
| marios_ | you will have to wait till november to see my ugly mug. | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: can you hash-info that? | 07:42 |
| greghaynes | #info chmod 600 $TRIPLEO_ROOT/*-env.json | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | marios_: This is a sadness | 07:42 |
| marios_ | tchaypo: lol. hang in there mate | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: could you explain why? :p | 07:42 |
| marios_ | greghaynes: what is that? | 07:42 |
| greghaynes | Well, if you dont, youll find out why very quickly :p | 07:42 |
| d0ugal | marios_: maybe you could arrange a hangout for folks to see you before then ;) | 07:42 |
| marios_ | d0ugal: mate, why would i want to do that to them? | 07:43 |
| greghaynes | Basically we need to enforce those permissions on that file because we are storing secrets there now | 07:43 |
| d0ugal | marios_: lol | 07:43 |
| greghaynes | that chane was merged recently... so if you dont then your devtest runs will fail | 07:43 |
| tchaypo | #info we need to enforce those permissions on that file because we are storing secrets there now. Scripts don't chown for you, they just abort. | 07:43 |
| StevenK | chmod | 07:44 |
| StevenK | chown changes ownership | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | #undo | 07:44 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2fe1510> | 07:44 |
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| tchaypo | #info we need to enforce those permissions on that file because we are storing secrets there now. Scripts don't chmod for you, they just abort | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | sigh | 07:44 |
| greghaynes | oh great, we got the object id. how useful! | 07:44 |
| StevenK | Yeah | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | The thing I wanted to bring up is around under/overcloud password files. | 07:44 |
| StevenK | greghaynes: __repr__ is hard, news at 11. | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | At present the scripts look for them in $PWD, then in $TRIPLEO_ROOT | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97657/ / https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93981/ are two patchsets open to change this | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | One of them is xuhaiwei_ 's | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | they both at the moment just check $TRIPLEO_ROOT, some people have suggested to xuhaiwei_ that we should accept a parameter for the location, which defaults to $TRIPLEO_ROOT | 07:46 |
| StevenK | I think we should bring it up on the list | 07:46 |
| StevenK | Because I'd also like input from sleeping people | 07:46 |
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| tchaypo | Do we have any input from awake people first? | 07:47 |
| tchaypo | I've got an email drafted already | 07:47 |
| StevenK | I'm happy enough to drop the $PWD check | 07:47 |
| StevenK | Well, $CWD to be pedantic | 07:47 |
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| tchaypo | Okay, no other comments,I'll take it to the list | 07:49 |
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| tchaypo | Anything else? | 07:49 |
| marios_ | StevenK: +1 to list | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | #topic open discussion | 07:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:50 | |
| xuhaiwei_ | sorry, to what list? | 07:50 |
| marios_ | xuhaiwei_: mailing list | 07:50 |
| StevenK | xuhaiwei_: openstack-dev | 07:50 |
| xuhaiwei_ | ok | 07:50 |
| marios_ | xuhaiwei_: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org [Tripleo] | 07:50 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Ten minute early mark? Sounds fantastic. /part | 07:51 |
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| xuhaiwei_ | marios, StevenK: thanks | 07:51 |
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| tchaypo | email sent | 07:52 |
| tchaypo | I'll close the meeting in 60 seconds if we don't have anything else.. | 07:53 |
| xuhaiwei_ | so fast | 07:53 |
| xuhaiwei_ | I say the mail *) | 07:53 |
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| tchaypo | I wrote it yesterday, just had to hit send :) | 07:53 |
| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 07:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 25 07:54:21 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-25-06.59.html | 07:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-25-06.59.txt | 07:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-06-25-06.59.log.html | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | Thanks everyone, see you at UTC1700 next week | 07:54 |
| StevenK | Thanks guys! | 07:54 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: thanks! | 07:54 |
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| xuhaiwei_ | thanks | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | urr. | 07:55 |
| tchaypo | UTC1900 i mean | 07:55 |
| marios_ | bye all | 07:55 |
| tchaypo | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140702T19 | 07:55 |
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| lsmola__ | thanks guys | 07:57 |
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| nijaba | o/ | 14:00 |
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| russellb | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas1 | o/ | 14:00 |
| s3wong | hello | 14:00 |
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| russellb | let's kick this off | 14:00 |
| russellb | #startmeeting nfv | 14:00 |
| smazziotta | hi | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 25 14:00:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 14:00 |
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| cloudon | hi | 14:00 |
| bauzas | o/ | 14:00 |
| nijaba | bonour | 14:00 |
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| russellb | #chair sgordon | 14:01 |
| nijaba | bonjour too (sorry for my bad french) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: russellb sgordon | 14:01 |
| russellb | #chair nijaba | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: nijaba russellb sgordon | 14:01 |
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| russellb | so a couple more people can do meetbot commands | 14:01 |
| yamahata | hi | 14:01 |
| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| nbouthors | hi | 14:01 |
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| russellb | #topic review actions | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | needs more shades of pink/purple | 14:01 |
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| russellb | sgordon: ha, i know .. | 14:01 |
| sgordon | so bauzas appears to have made some progress on the nfv dash | 14:01 |
| sgordon | #link https://github.com/sbauza/gerrit-dashboard-nfv | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | yey | 14:02 |
| russellb | yeah want to share what you have? | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #link http://bit.ly/1iFdldx | 14:02 |
| bauzas | sure | 14:02 |
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| russellb | awesome progress :) | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | so, I just wrote a quick project for gathering blueprints from the wikipage | 14:02 |
| russellb | that's going to be very helpful to me when i go to review | 14:02 |
| bauzas | asking launchpad to get the gerrit urls | 14:02 |
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| nijaba | bauzas: awsome! | 14:03 |
| bauzas | and then doing some fancy stuff around it | 14:03 |
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| cloudon | +1 | 14:03 |
| russellb | so i suppose the next step is some hosted instance of the script that keeps it updated + a redirect? | 14:03 |
| bauzas | so, another feature is nice to have, which is the shortening service to request | 14:03 |
| sgordon | so the main thing now is making it run on a regular basis and update a tiny url right? | 14:03 |
| bauzas | and host it indeed | 14:03 |
| bauzas | sgordon: russellb: +1 | 14:04 |
| sgordon | v. handy given today is the nova review day though | 14:04 |
| russellb | have a place to put it? | 14:04 |
| bauzas | frankly not | 14:04 |
| russellb | ok | 14:04 |
| russellb | i can give you a small vm on rackspace if you want | 14:04 |
| bauzas | would be awesome | 14:04 |
| russellb | OK | 14:04 |
| russellb | #action russellb to spin up a cloud VM for bauzas to host NFV dashboard script | 14:04 |
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| bauzas | anyone can get the project and test it | 14:05 |
| russellb | bauzas: i'll get with you about this outside of the meeting | 14:05 |
| bauzas | bugs are welcome | 14:05 |
| bauzas | russellb: sure | 14:05 |
| sgordon | a few people drifting in late, here is the output we are discussing: http://bit.ly/1iFdldx | 14:05 |
| russellb | and it's awesome :) | 14:05 |
| nijaba | bauzas: where is the code? | 14:05 |
| sgordon | i havent dug into it enough to comment on the arrangement of the dash, but looks pretty good to me | 14:05 |
| sgordon | nijaba, link to github up there somewhere ^^ | 14:06 |
| bauzas | nijaba: https://github.com/sbauza/gerrit-dashboard-nfv | 14:06 |
| russellb | https://github.com/sbauza/gerrit-dashboard-nfv | 14:06 |
| smazziotta | +1 | 14:06 |
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| nijaba | sorry, missed it | 14:06 |
| nijaba | thnaks | 14:06 |
| bauzas | no pb | 14:06 |
| russellb | bauzas: https://xkcd.com/208/ ? | 14:06 |
| russellb | :) | 14:06 |
| russellb | that basically the summary of the code? heh | 14:06 |
| russellb | except hopefully not perl. | 14:06 |
| bauzas | russellb: ^^ | 14:06 |
| russellb | Python, of course :) | 14:07 |
| sgordon | ok | 14:07 |
| russellb | next item! | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | russellb: and some DOM parser :) | 14:07 |
| sgordon | so that is probably that covered for now? | 14:07 |
| russellb | cloudon posted another use case to the ML | 14:07 |
| sgordon | the next action from last week was cloudon to provide a use case | 14:07 |
| sgordon | yes | 14:07 |
| russellb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/038556.html | 14:07 |
| cloudon | Any feedback? | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | cloudon, just looking at the HA requirements | 14:08 |
| sgordon | seems to be the main gap? | 14:08 |
| russellb | so the affinity requirement | 14:08 |
| russellb | i think that's already covered? | 14:08 |
| russellb | you can boot VMs into an (anti-)affinity group | 14:08 |
| sgordon | sort of | 14:08 |
| sgordon | this looks like having a second layer | 14:08 |
| sgordon | where you would have two groups with affinity | 14:09 |
| sgordon | but then placement of those groups with anti-affinity | 14:09 |
| russellb | ohhh.. | 14:09 |
| sgordon | so all VMs from group A on one host | 14:09 |
| sgordon | and all VMs from group B on another | 14:09 |
| russellb | but anti-affinity between A and B groups | 14:09 |
| sgordon | and have that be enforced by the scheduler | 14:09 |
| russellb | right. | 14:09 |
| cloudon | Not quite - gropus wouldn't necessarily have affinitty within them | 14:09 |
| sgordon | cloudon, hmm ok | 14:09 |
| russellb | i see | 14:09 |
| cloudon | Key thing is to be able to say a single host failure won't knock out more than x% of my VMs | 14:09 |
| sgordon | cloudon, so just not allowed to overlap? | 14:09 |
| russellb | but at least anti-affinity between 2 groups ... | 14:09 |
| imendel | assume it's not jsut % | 14:10 |
| cloudon | Don't want to go as far as saying all VMs must be on different hosts - limits scale for one thing... | 14:10 |
| russellb | right | 14:10 |
| russellb | but i understand now | 14:10 |
| russellb | that's good input | 14:10 |
| cloudon | Think it's a fairly geenric req for N+k pool architectures | 14:10 |
| sgordon | cloudon, right - so the soft anti-affinity proposal helps here i think | 14:10 |
| adrian-hoban | cloudon: Do you include any latency considerations for this application? | 14:10 |
| imendel | but you have within one "tier" the need to anti affinity? | 14:10 |
| * russellb also got sidetracked by project clearwater ... heh | 14:10 | |
| sgordon | cloudon, doesnt handle the buckets approach though | 14:10 |
| russellb | interesting stuff (i like voip stuff, too) | 14:11 |
| cloudon | Latency not vital so long as not silly | 14:11 |
| bauzas | cloudon: I think you can make use of aggregates isolation with tenants | 14:11 |
| cloudon | V open to other approahces, particularly if can be done with existing function | 14:12 |
| nijaba | should the scheduler understand the group anti afinity semantic, or should it just be possible to say for each VM start that it should not be on same host as this list of VM? | 14:12 |
| russellb | cloudon: for control plane application you mean, right? | 14:12 |
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| cloudon | russelb: yes, for control plane; clearly not for data plane... | 14:12 |
| adrian-hoban | cloudon: I think the CPU pinning/NUMA type work helps to ensure the latency is predictable | 14:12 |
| russellb | right :) | 14:12 |
| russellb | cloudon: not sure how we'd implement, but it's definitely a gap | 14:12 |
| bauzas | IMHO, what we call group anti-affinity is managed thru aggregates, ie not spin that VM on that aggregate | 14:12 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, right - it's not QoS as such but optimizing everything in the infrastructure to provide deterministic performance | 14:13 |
| nijaba | bauzas: makes sense | 14:13 |
| cloudon | We had some thoughts on a blueprint but were waiting for scheduler re-factoring... | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | yeah that is a good use case | 14:13 |
| smazziotta | when do we expect scheduler re-factoring to be completed | 14:14 |
| russellb | that's true, could do something with aggregates | 14:14 |
| adrian-hoban | sgordon: Exactly, so even if scale out is working well, we typically need deterministic behaviours. | 14:14 |
| russellb | a bit more static than i'd like though | 14:14 |
| bauzas | well, I was saying that because notion of host grouping is the aggregates | 14:14 |
| russellb | on a related note, I shared our wiki page in the nova meeting last week, seemed to get a good response | 14:14 |
| sgordon | bauzas, re. smazziotta's question? ^^ | 14:14 |
| russellb | devs really appreciated the organized info -- overview, usecases, and list of work | 14:14 |
| russellb | so this stuff is helping get stuff done | 14:15 |
| bauzas | well, good question, no clear response there | 14:15 |
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| bauzas | the sooner is the better | 14:15 |
| bauzas | I mean, we have some blueprints in progress, we expect to do good progress by end of Juno | 14:15 |
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| cloudon | Any suggestions for good nova folk to discuss this particular HA use case with? | 14:15 |
| bauzas | but I'm unsure if we can just spin out Gantt by beginning of K | 14:16 |
| russellb | cloudon: bauzas :) | 14:16 |
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| cloudon | cool | 14:16 |
| ian_ott | what do people think about server groups, could be considered for anti-affinity support - needs work | 14:16 |
| russellb | ian_ott: yeah, works for some basic cases | 14:16 |
| smazziotta | we have a lot of BP that have a dependency to scheduler re-factoring completed. What is NFV sub-team recommendation ? we wait for refactoring or do something else ? | 14:16 |
| russellb | #topic blueprints | 14:16 |
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| russellb | we're moving to that topic anyway | 14:16 |
| sgordon | ian_ott, the problem is there is a significant jump required to get to what people what on top of the basic functionality | 14:16 |
| russellb | smazziotta: that's a good question | 14:16 |
| russellb | IMO, the breakout has to come first | 14:17 |
| sgordon | ian_ott, which is to be able to change the group membership on a running vm and have the policy apply straight away | 14:17 |
| bauzas | smazziotta: reviews on scheduler breakout is worth to do the :) | 14:17 |
| russellb | so, asking how you can help speed it up is the best next step | 14:17 |
| bauzas | then | 14:17 |
| sgordon | ian_ott, using migration etc | 14:17 |
| russellb | bauzas <-- best contact to the status of that work | 14:17 |
| sgordon | ian_ott, also some concerns about the way the API is exposed | 14:17 |
| bauzas | scheduler team is doing weekly meetings each Tues @3pm UTC | 14:18 |
| sgordon | (jay started a thread on this a while back but we never really got to it in the relevant summit sessions) | 14:18 |
| bauzas | if we consider here that sched breakout is high priority (which I agrees), then I would love seeing people helping us reviewing patches :) | 14:18 |
| russellb | yeah, that's my opinion at least | 14:18 |
| bauzas | or contributing if people are willing :) | 14:19 |
| russellb | it's not the sexy feature work | 14:19 |
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| russellb | but a necessary pre-requisite | 14:19 |
| russellb | so other blueprint news ... | 14:19 |
| russellb | some specs have been approved! | 14:19 |
| russellb | SR-IOV for Nova was approved | 14:19 |
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| russellb | a couple of the NUMA related blueprints were approved | 14:19 |
| nijaba | \o/ | 14:19 |
| russellb | today is also a nova spec review day, so should be a lot of movement on others today | 14:19 |
| russellb | hop in #openstack-nova if you'd like to participate / discuss | 14:20 |
| russellb | some organization on this etherpad ... https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-juno-spec-priorities | 14:20 |
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| russellb | i added links to NFV stuff on there | 14:20 |
| smazziotta | bauzas: let's discuss off-line | 14:20 |
| russellb | might break that out in more detail | 14:20 |
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| russellb | any specific blueprints people here would like to discuss? | 14:21 |
| bauzas | russellb: oh thanks for the link, totally missed it | 14:21 |
| russellb | really my priority is to dive into more of the nova ones and review ... | 14:21 |
| sgordon | ah yes that reminds me | 14:21 |
| russellb | if you look at the NFV dashboard, most open specs have been reviewed actually | 14:21 |
| russellb | and need revision | 14:21 |
| sgordon | there are some proposed dates to be aware of in Nova | 14:22 |
| sgordon | Jun 25 (-10): Spec review day - TODAY! (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-juno-spec-priorities) | 14:22 |
| sgordon | Jul 3 (-9): Spec proposal freeze | 14:22 |
| sgordon | Jul 10 (-8): Spec approval freeze | 14:22 |
| sgordon | Jul 24 (-6): Juno-2 | 14:22 |
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| sgordon | have any of the other relevant proposals started laying out similar dates? | 14:22 |
| sgordon | *projects | 14:22 |
| bauzas | smazziotta: sure | 14:22 |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/038475.html | 14:23 |
| bauzas | smazziotta: (about discussing off-meeting) | 14:23 |
| sgordon | russellb, that's a good point | 14:23 |
| russellb | sgordon: i would expect similar dates for the other projects | 14:23 |
| russellb | there's an attempt to coordinate on dates like this | 14:23 |
| sgordon | russellb, maybe we should go through some of those if the owners are here | 14:23 |
| russellb | was discussed last night in cross project meeting | 14:23 |
| sgordon | russellb, and see if they need assistance revising | 14:23 |
| russellb | sgordon: sure | 14:23 |
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| sgordon | where to start is the question... | 14:24 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/97716 | 14:24 |
| sgordon | 2 interfaces, 1 net | 14:24 |
| russellb | sgordon: will let you drive the list :) | 14:24 |
| sgordon | looks like ijw is not here today unfortunately | 14:24 |
| russellb | yeah, but at least got some review from john | 14:25 |
| sgordon | i picked this one as it was one of the 3-4 on that top list | 14:25 |
| russellb | and he seems good with it in general | 14:25 |
| sgordon | right | 14:25 |
| sgordon | just needs a new iteration | 14:25 |
| russellb | yep | 14:25 |
| russellb | i see ijw responded to the comments .. | 14:25 |
| sgordon | yes | 14:25 |
| sgordon | he has a couple of others that are in similar state, i think we can skip those | 14:26 |
| russellb | ok | 14:26 |
| russellb | really, most are in that state ... | 14:26 |
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| sgordon | let's talk about the -2s... | 14:26 |
| russellb | so in general, if you own a spec, check the feedback and iterate :) | 14:26 |
| russellb | sgordon: ah, good idea | 14:26 |
| * bauzas so loves iterating on -1s... :) | 14:26 | |
| sgordon | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87978/ | 14:26 |
| russellb | heh, that's how we work | 14:27 |
| sgordon | nic state aware scheduling, there was an attempt at reworking this based on the initial rejection | 14:27 |
| sgordon | which is still the -2 on it | 14:27 |
| sgordon | bauzas, looks like you had some comments/questions about it | 14:27 |
| sgordon | since it was last uploaded | 14:27 |
| sgordon | no updates from the author in response though | 14:27 |
| russellb | sgordon: not sure the update addresses the fundamental rejection though | 14:28 |
| bauzas | indeed | 14:28 |
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| sgordon | alanm doesn't appear to be here, not sure what balazs nick is | 14:28 |
| russellb | wasn't the rejection ... "we don't want this in nova at all" ? | 14:28 |
| adrian-hoban | Not sure I understand why up/down state is not appropriate for Nova | 14:29 |
| bauzas | sgordon: no clear disagreement with my review, just minor details to explain more | 14:29 |
| adrian-hoban | ...up/down NIC state... | 14:29 |
| russellb | to be clear, understand the importance of the use case, just think it should be handled outside of nova by your system monitoring tool of choice (nagios or whatever) | 14:29 |
| russellb | dansmith: around? | 14:29 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, the suggestion on mailing list was that this is the domain of existing monitoring tools | 14:29 |
| dansmith | russellb: yep | 14:29 |
| russellb | dansmith: discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87978/3/specs/juno/nic-state-aware-scheduling.rst | 14:29 |
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| sgordon | adrian-hoban, i personally am not convinced that openstack couldnt/shouldnt handle this but it may not necessarily be *within* nova | 14:29 |
| sgordon | so that's a little unclear | 14:30 |
| sgordon | the other thing is there are differing preferences on what to actually do if the NIC is down | 14:30 |
| russellb | sgordon: the ML suggestion you refer to is my preference | 14:30 |
| sgordon | disable the host, or just remove ports from the pool for passthrough | 14:30 |
| sgordon | depending on which NIC it is of course | 14:30 |
| dansmith | IMHO, if the monitoring is out of nova, | 14:30 |
| dansmith | then it's easier for us to allow the deployer to do what they want if the nic link goes down | 14:30 |
| bauzas | dansmith: +1 | 14:30 |
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| russellb | right, and having it be logic outside of nova gives you that flexibility, would rather not build all this policy into nova | 14:30 |
| sgordon | from a libvirt perspective there are patches posed upstream in libvirt to at least expose this information there | 14:31 |
| sgordon | but you still need to collect and act on it | 14:31 |
| dansmith | if we provide tools to extract it from the network pool, then you can have the response script do what you want | 14:31 |
| dansmith | or just report it | 14:31 |
| russellb | right | 14:31 |
| russellb | or disable the host entirely if you want | 14:31 |
| russellb | or whatever. | 14:31 |
| dansmith | right | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | or make it blue | 14:32 |
| russellb | or go ahead and STONITH that sucker | 14:32 |
| dansmith | I can see us reporting the link state in some host details blob or something | 14:32 |
| dansmith | if we want that to avoid the need for a nagios infra, | 14:32 |
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| sgordon | dansmith, so that may be the question i have actually | 14:32 |
| dansmith | but in reality, something like nagios is required anyway for a real deployment | 14:32 |
| russellb | dansmith: that's what the spec is proposing now | 14:32 |
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| sgordon | dansmith, because i dont think there currently is a plan to easily be able to remove them from the pool | 14:32 |
| dansmith | russellb: reporting it but not doing anything? | 14:32 |
| russellb | let me check ... | 14:32 |
| dansmith | I haven't read the updated one yet | 14:33 |
| russellb | doing something | 14:33 |
| russellb | scheduiler filter | 14:33 |
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| russellb | so, report it via servicegroup junk | 14:33 |
| dansmith | I don't really think we should even report it | 14:33 |
| russellb | right | 14:33 |
| russellb | i think we're crossing into system monitoring territory | 14:33 |
| dansmith | but it's less offensive than encoding policy based on the status to me | 14:33 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:33 |
| dansmith | nagios has flapping detection and all kinds of stuff | 14:34 |
| russellb | yeah.. | 14:34 |
| dansmith | that are necessary for hysteresis that we don't want to have to implement, IMHO | 14:34 |
| russellb | so i think i'm going to add a -2 here as well | 14:34 |
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| dansmith | and if we don't, we'll suck compared to it | 14:34 |
| russellb | sgordon: not sure that's the outcome you wanted, heh ... | 14:34 |
| russellb | clear direction forward should be top priority :) | 14:35 |
| bauzas | well, I'm thinking about this usecase as a possible good fit for a big Scheduler like Gantt | 14:35 |
| bauzas | but not Nova | 14:35 |
| russellb | bauzas: maybe ... | 14:35 |
| bauzas | I mean, notifications have to be done maybe thru Nagios indeed | 14:35 |
| sgordon | russellb, not exactly but i really said lets look at the -2s | 14:35 |
| sgordon | russellb, and then that was the only one | 14:35 |
| sgordon | russellb, i did try to bump the thread about this a week or two ago to discuss nagios- based approaches to try and flesh out what we would need from the API but didnt get much interest | 14:36 |
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| sgordon | (again mainly talking about managing the pool of devices for passthrough) | 14:36 |
| russellb | yeah | 14:38 |
| russellb | that's all config based | 14:38 |
| russellb | so kind of messy | 14:38 |
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| russellb | but we need an API for it anyway | 14:38 |
| russellb | this would be another use case for the API | 14:38 |
| bauzas | hence Gantt :) | 14:38 |
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| russellb | not just initial provisioning, but ongoing management | 14:38 |
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| russellb | let's move on, can discuss more blueprints in open discussion if someone wants to | 14:39 |
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| russellb | #topic Paris mud-cycle spring next week | 14:39 |
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| russellb | looks like there is a small group of people interested in NFV attending this meetup | 14:39 |
| dansmith | mud cycle? | 14:39 |
| dansmith | sounds cool | 14:39 |
| bauzas | lol | 14:39 |
| russellb | yeah! | 14:39 |
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| russellb | #undo | 14:39 |
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| russellb | #topic Paris mid-cycle spring next week | 14:40 |
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| bauzas | spring ? :) | 14:40 |
| lukego | I’m planning to be in Paris for this and it would be neat to talk with more OpenStack/NFV hackers there :-) | 14:40 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/ParisJuno2014 | 14:40 |
| lukego | Looks like 5 people planning to go so far (not all confirmed) | 14:40 |
| russellb | bauzas: dangit | 14:40 |
| russellb | SPRINT | 14:40 |
| russellb | :) | 14:40 |
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| russellb | #topic open discussion | 14:40 |
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| russellb | anything else today? | 14:40 |
| russellb | as usual, please help review specs and code | 14:41 |
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| russellb | and if you own active specs or code, please iterate based on feedback | 14:41 |
| russellb | most specs are waiting for updates from submitter right now | 14:41 |
| sgordon | right | 14:41 |
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| sgordon | v. important to get that done asap | 14:41 |
| sgordon | as we are quickly approaching crunch time for this cycle | 14:41 |
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| sgordon | as far as approval goes anyway | 14:41 |
| russellb | right | 14:41 |
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| russellb | if specs aren't approved in the next week or two, they will be deferred to K | 14:41 |
| MichaelB | anything worthwhile to communicate to ETSI NFV folks? | 14:42 |
| cloudon | Do we need more example use cases, or are the detailed control & data plane app examples we know have sufficiently representative? | 14:42 |
| lukego | Looks like we have two proposals for userspace vhost at the moment: vhost-user (the new QEMU feature) and also DPDK’s own solution. Got to haromnize these someow | 14:42 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, there was a request previously for access to drafts of the ETSI gap analysis work | 14:42 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, particularly around OpenStack gaps | 14:42 |
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| sgordon | MichaelB, obviously some of the members are here and filtering info through | 14:42 |
| MichaelB | gaps analysis is incomplet, not ready for publishing yet in ETSI | 14:42 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, but would be good for everyone to be on the same page | 14:42 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, not even via the draft documents page? | 14:43 |
| MichaelB | we are now in consistency review, followed by WG approval | 14:43 |
| MichaelB | then working on tightening the gap analysis | 14:43 |
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| sgordon | lukego, do you have the links handy | 14:43 |
| sgordon | lukego, i think i only saw one of them | 14:43 |
| lukego | I have renamed VIF_SNABB to VIF_VHOSTUSER name. Hope it will suit everybody for userspace vhost going forward | 14:43 |
| MichaelB | so far, what we have is WG-level, partial/incomplete analysis | 14:43 |
| adrian-hoban | Multiple ETSI-NFV working groups will be looking at OpenStack from different perspectives. | 14:43 |
| MichaelB | there is something against OpenStack...but rudimentary | 14:44 |
| lukego | sgordon: QEMU vhost-user VIF (previously VIF_SNABB) is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96138/ | 14:44 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96138/ | 14:44 |
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| MichaelB | I can check with the MANO chairs if we want to share this in this stage, or wait till it is in better shape | 14:44 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, that seemed to be the main request i am aware of | 14:44 |
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| sgordon | MichaelB, concern is that we're duplicating each others efforts on that front somewhat | 14:45 |
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| lukego | sgordon: The DPDK one is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-ovs-use-usvhost | 14:45 |
| MichaelB | sgordon - what do u mean? Is the gap analysis happneing somewhere else other than ETSI NFV ? | 14:45 |
| sgordon | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-ovs-use-usvhost | 14:45 |
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| lukego | noted #link for future :) | 14:46 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, much of the discussion in this group has been around identifying NFV use cases and the gaps they expose | 14:46 |
| sgordon | MichaelB, driven in part by the existing ETSI NFV publications | 14:46 |
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| lukego | My perspective is that vhost-user is the standard feature for the future (now upstream in QEMU) that everybody will use (?). but the DPDK-OVS people may want to support the other one anyway in the short term? need to get in sync | 14:46 |
| MichaelB | that is fine. I don't think that's a dupication with the gap analysis I am talking about | 14:46 |
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| MichaelB | we should continue to do what u started HERE | 14:47 |
| adrian-hoban | From what I have seen in drafts, there are new items to be added to the list we are tracking | 14:47 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, right that is my expectation | 14:47 |
| MichaelB | adrian-hoban ... yes, I think we should bring into here any deltas | 14:47 |
| adrian-hoban | lukego: The concern related to support for folks that are using earlier versions of qemu | 14:47 |
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| sgordon | adrian-hoban, obviously the earlier we get and iterate on deltas the sooner we can do something about them | 14:48 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, but the plate for juno is getting full anyway :) | 14:48 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: That makes sense. Question in my mind is how important that is? (I noticed that other OVS-DPDK related features, like security groups, were already deferred until the K-cycle — so do we still need this VIF and in Juno?) | 14:48 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: Should we treat the two VIFs separately or would there be a practical way to combine them | 14:50 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: more to the point — I want to push forward and get VIF_VHOSTUSER into Juno, because it will enable Deutsche Telekom to avoid deploying a fork. Does this effort step on you guys’ toes somehow or is this a positive thing for you too (for future use)? | 14:52 |
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| adrian-hoban | lukego: It would be preferred to have it in Juno so that we can help support some time-to-market concerns of waiting on qemu 2.1 support to get into the distros etc... | 14:52 |
| pczesno | lukego: we want to use your work to support vhost user for ovs | 14:52 |
| adrian-hoban | lukego: I think that is positive too | 14:53 |
| pczesno | lukego: positive think | 14:53 |
| adrian-hoban | Go for it | 14:53 |
| lukego | ok good. I am happy to present both blueprints as best we can and ideally get both of them in. I don’t immediately see a way to combine them, but obviously that would be better. | 14:53 |
| adrian-hoban | Need to figure out how to support older versions of qemu | 14:53 |
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| russellb | i think the 2 could reference each other | 14:53 |
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| russellb | sounds like if there' separate VIFs, they should stay as separate specs | 14:54 |
| lukego | btw I have just run through and renamed VIF_SNABB to VIF_VHOSTUSER everywhere (based on sensible feedback) — please let me know if I missed some references somewhere | 14:54 |
| lukego | russellb: cool | 14:55 |
| russellb | will try to take a look in more detail though | 14:55 |
| sgordon | adrian-hoban, i think there is a wider discussion there that we've never really nailed down | 14:55 |
| sgordon | wrt support for a wide range of libvirt/qemu versions and what is actually tested in the gate | 14:56 |
| adrian-hoban | lukego: We will contribute some updates to extend your work to support the DPDK use case | 14:56 |
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| adrian-hoban | for qemu 2.1 | 14:56 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: any chance you guys fancy a visit to Paris next week btw? :-) | 14:56 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: (you’re based in the UK?) | 14:57 |
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| lukego | adrian-hoban: awesome | 14:57 |
| adrian-hoban | Close, I'm in Ireland | 14:57 |
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| adrian-hoban | Don't think I can make it | 14:58 |
| lukego | I’d love to understand more about how OVS-DPDK relates to OVS plugin and OpenDaylight and so on. (Like: do you plan to implement Neutron APIs directly in Python code in OpenStack or always use an external controller?) if there’s a link please send :) | 14:58 |
| lukego | adrian-hoban: I’m guessing external SDN controllers will be the big winners of the OVS-DPDK work? | 14:59 |
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| lukego | (but I digress.) | 14:59 |
| russellb | looks like we're out of time | 14:59 |
| russellb | discussion can continue in #openstack-nfv if you'd like | 14:59 |
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| russellb | thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| nijaba | Thanks for hosting russellb! | 15:00 |
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| russellb | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 25 15:00:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| smazziotta | thanks | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-25-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-25-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| lukego | yep thanks russellb :) | 15:00 |
| bauzas | thanks | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-06-25-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| russellb | you're welcome! | 15:00 |
| imendel | tnx | 15:00 |
| Swami_ | hi DVR folks | 15:00 |
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| xuhanp | hello | 15:00 |
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| Swami_ | xuhanp: hi | 15:00 |
| Swami_ | pcm_:hi | 15:01 |
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| Swami_ | xuhanp: I got your message about contribution to the DVR. I will let you know, when I come back from my vaccation. | 15:02 |
| armax | hello | 15:02 |
| Swami_ | armax: hi | 15:02 |
| xuhanp | Swami_, thanks a lot | 15:02 |
| Swami_ | hi everyone | 15:02 |
| Swami_ | Folks sorry for cancelling the meeting last week. Since I was travelling I was not able to host. | 15:02 |
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| Swami_ | Hopefully today I can run the meeting without any power or network disruption. | 15:03 |
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| Swami_ | #startmeeting Distributed_virtual_router | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 25 15:03:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:04 |
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| Swami_ | #topic DVR Update | 15:04 |
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| Swami_ | #topic DVR Plugin update | 15:05 |
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| Swami_ | armax: any updates on the DVR Plugin, I did see your latest patch set. You have also addressed the comments. Is there anything else in the patch that we need to take care. | 15:06 |
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| armax | Swami_: which one? | 15:06 |
| Swami_ | armax: patch set 30 that you pushed couple of days back. | 15:07 |
| armax | you mean on review 84223, then? | 15:07 |
| Swami_ | armax: Yes on 84223 | 15:07 |
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| armax | Swami_: I think carl_baldwin | 15:08 |
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| armax | wants to talk to you about one more outstanding issue | 15:08 |
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| armax | Swami_: I think that’s identified as FIXME(swami) in the code | 15:09 |
| Swami_ | armax: do you remember what was carl's feedback. | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | hi, I forgot to join the meeting. Thanks for the ping. | 15:09 |
| Swami_ | carl: hi | 15:09 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: can you enlighten us? | 15:09 |
| armax | :) | 15:09 |
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| * carl_baldwin goes to look at the review. | 15:10 | |
| Swami_ | Yes: I did see that there were around three fixme for "swami". | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: armax: Do you want to go in to detail now or should we talk offline. | 15:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | ? | 15:12 |
| armax | I am afraid I won’t have time this morning, but carl_baldwin, Swami_ please feel free to go ahead without me | 15:12 |
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| Swami_ | Yes we can take it offline | 15:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami_: will you have time following the meeting? | 15:13 |
| armax | I think the FIXME’s are the last outstanding major weaknesses | 15:13 |
| Swami_ | don't want to waste other peoples time on this. | 15:13 |
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| armax | once they get address IMO the patch will be 99% ready to merge | 15:13 |
| Swami_ | carl: Yes I can chat with you after the meeting. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Swami_: agreed. I’m pretty happy with the patch overall though I’m still working on trying to run all of the DVR patches together. That would further improve my confidence. | 15:14 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: as already agreed recently I was going to publish a public branch somewhere that collates all the patches | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | I was very happy last night that I was able to merge all of the DVR patches together in to the same working copy. That had been a struggle due to a few of the patches having an older base and other merge conflicts. | 15:15 |
| Swami_ | carl: did we not decide first to push the plugin changes first and then focus on other patches. | 15:15 |
| armax | I was going to publish it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/HowTo | 15:15 |
| armax | also, we’re making a recorded demo of the dvr functionality | 15:15 |
| Swami_ | armax: thanks | 15:15 |
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| armax | which will also be shared on that wiki page | 15:16 |
| Swami_ | armax: that would be great with the recorded demo. | 15:16 |
| armax | that would help a bit | 15:16 |
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| armax | all in all I think we’re getting closer…all the pieces are getting in the right place/shape | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: yes, we did but I would still like to run them all together. | 15:16 |
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| Swami_ | carl: ok, we will do it. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | I am also very pleased to see most of the patches passing Jenkins. I know that took a lot of work. | 15:17 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: bringing all the patches together is certainly helpful | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | carl: thanks for your help | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami_: my point was that they can be auto-merged in their current state now. So, I can do it myself. I think that is good progress. I’m not adding more requirements on you guys. | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | armax: thanks for your help in making this patch ready for merge. I am sorry to put you on the spot because of my vaccation. | 15:18 |
| armax | Swami_: no worries, I’ll pick a bone with you once you’re back :P | 15:19 |
| Swami_ | armax: Sure | 15:19 |
| armax | Swami_: kidding :) | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | #topic ML2/L2 Agent | 15:20 |
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| Swami_ | vivek: any updates. | 15:20 |
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| armax | viveknarasimhan, Swami_: I also took some action here | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | yeah | 15:20 |
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| viveknarasimhan | we divided the original patch of #87730 into 4 patches, thanks to armando for the same | 15:21 |
| armax | I broke down the patch into a few pieces and done some improvements/refactoring in the process | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | out of 4 patches, 3 are being pursued actively with review help from Carl | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | thansk to armando and carl | 15:21 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan, Swami_: I need to go through the initial comments from carl_baldwin and the others | 15:21 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: one thing that this effort unveiled though | 15:22 |
| armax | is that on the unit coverage the patches are a bit weak | 15:22 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: would you have some spare cycles to prop up the test coverage? | 15:22 |
| Swami_ | armax: so are you planning to combine certain patches together. | 15:22 |
| armax | Swami_: no, what do you mean? | 15:22 |
| viveknarasimhan | i am busy right now on juno internal merge. | 15:23 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: ok, we’d need to figure something out then | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | armando: after a week may be i will be able to spare cycles to prop up specific areas where you feel we can add value | 15:23 |
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| armax | I am mostly concerned with this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102398/ | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | armax: I did not realize that it was weak on the unit test coverage, I thought that the patch by itself was weak as a standalone, that's why I asked do you need to combine the patches. | 15:24 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: I think this one may get away without additional tests | 15:24 |
| chuckC | I'm working on an ml2 defect relating to plugin code coverage. I may be able to help with some of this | 15:24 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: I can take care of this one | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok, for #102398 may be more cases need to be added to handling of dvr interface ports by ML2, right? | 15:24 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102101/ | 15:24 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: correct | 15:25 |
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| armax | viveknarasimhan: testing the code path that pertains dvr | 15:25 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok, i will look into that, but that is going to start only by mid next-week | 15:25 |
| armax | Swami_: I was talking about vivek’s patch | 15:25 |
| viveknarasimhan | sure i agree armando | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | armax: got it. | 15:26 |
| armax | Swami_: after breaking it apart | 15:26 |
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| armax | it’s easier to spot that the coverage is only partial | 15:26 |
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| Swami_ | chuckC: thanks for your offer. Vivek if you need help, chuckC can help you to add more test coverage, if you are busy. | 15:26 |
| armax | Swami_: I am not saying that we’re in terrible shape, but it’d be nice to shut the door to potential negative reviews wrt testing | 15:27 |
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| viveknarasimhan | it would be great if chuckC could help there | 15:27 |
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| armax | Swami_: and it will also protect us from potential regressions at least on a unit perspective | 15:27 |
| viveknarasimhan | since my plate is full with internal merge stuff as armando and swami see it | 15:27 |
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| Swami_ | chuckC: can you sync up with Vivek. | 15:27 |
| armax | with all these patches floating around it’s pretty easy to miss something | 15:27 |
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| Swami_ | armax: understood. | 15:28 |
| chuckC | Swami_: sure | 15:28 |
| armax | especially during the merge/rebase process | 15:28 |
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| Swami_ | vivek: armax: anything else from the L2 side. | 15:29 |
| armax | Swami_: none from me | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | armax: thanks | 15:29 |
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| Swami_ | #topic L3 Agent | 15:30 |
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| Swami_ | mrsmith: Any updates on the L3 Agent | 15:30 |
| mrsmith | ya | 15:30 |
| viveknarasimhan | i'll sync up with armando later this week | 15:30 |
| mrsmith | good progress with reviews | 15:30 |
| viveknarasimhan | to help prop up the potential to merge all the sub-patches further | 15:30 |
| mrsmith | thanks to carl_baldwin on the rebase | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: glad to help | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | I will continue to address the other comments | 15:31 |
| Swami_ | vivek: thanks, that would help. | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | and will create a util module/file | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | to carry more of the dvr specific methods | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | as suggested by armax | 15:31 |
| mrsmith | hopefully to help some of the reviewers digest the changes | 15:31 |
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| mrsmith | other than that - working on multinode devstack to run functional tests on for DVR | 15:32 |
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| mrsmith | and juno | 15:32 |
| mrsmith | along with the internal merge to juno (like vivek) | 15:32 |
| Swami_ | mrsmith: you mentioned that you had issues with devstack, is it all up and working with the master branch. | 15:32 |
| mrsmith | yes - some of my problems were internal infratstructure issues | 15:33 |
| mrsmith | its just getting it all together | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | mrsmith: thanks for the update. | 15:33 |
| mrsmith | not much more to report | 15:33 |
| mrsmith | np | 15:34 |
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| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: I’m wondering if there is a logical way to split up your patch into digestible chunks. I started looking yesterday with that in mind. I wanted to get your opinion. | 15:34 |
| mrsmith | hmm.... not sure... its odd since most of the changes are in one file | 15:35 |
| mrsmith | just moving the changes to another file might be enough? | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Right. The bulk is in the l3_agent file. | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | carl: How do you want to split it, based on functionality? | 15:35 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami_: possibly. Maybe split the compute node functionality in to one and follow on with the central node functionality. | 15:36 |
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| carl_baldwin | It was just a thought. It worked so well with armax’s work on the L2 patches I thought maybe it could help with this one as well. | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | I will look through the patch again today to see if I can come up with a recommendation. | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | carl: or can we split the work based on East-West and North-South. | 15:37 |
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| mrsmith | ok - let me know | 15:37 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I thought about mrsmith patch…but I haven’t reached the eureka moment yet | 15:37 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: that said, I am not really sure it buys a lot more | 15:37 |
| mrsmith | time invested for the split - vs what is gained... | 15:37 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I think it’s good if the we can identify some bits that can be factored out | 15:38 |
| armax | but as a whiole the patch it’s pretty well contained | 15:38 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: That is pretty much where I left off yesterday. No Eureka yet but I still want to look a little bit more before conceding. | 15:38 |
| armax | one thing is for sure | 15:38 |
| armax | the commit message could be more helpful in guiding the reviewer on how to look and intepret the patch | 15:39 |
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| mrsmith | armax - yes... more details there | 15:39 |
| armax | mrsmith: where? | 15:40 |
| mrsmith | in the comment msg as you say | 15:40 |
| mrsmith | *commit message | 15:40 |
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| armax | I don’t see any recent changes | 15:41 |
| armax | the commit message looks to be the same as PS1 | 15:41 |
| armax | am I barking at the wrong tree? | 15:41 |
| mrsmith | yes - I will update it | 15:41 |
| mrsmith | no, we are in agreement .... I will update the commit msg | 15:41 |
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| armax | mrsmith: gotcha…I still need to get properly caffeinated :) | 15:42 |
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| mrsmith | armax - I appreciate your feedback.... clear and actionable! | 15:42 |
| Swami_ | mrsmith: thanks for the update. | 15:43 |
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| Swami_ | I did see murali joining, I think he dropped off. | 15:43 |
| viveknarasimhan | armando | 15:43 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i have a question related to DVR L2 patches | 15:44 |
| Swami_ | I will check with him offline on the status of the DVR scheduler patch. | 15:44 |
| viveknarasimhan | dvr_rpc_base.py is missing from #102332 | 15:44 |
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| armax | viveknarasimhan: I consolidated the rpc itnerfaces in neutron/api/rpc/dvr_rpc | 15:45 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: it seemed the most natural place to be | 15:45 |
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| viveknarasimhan | ok thanks | 15:46 |
| Swami_ | Murali: hi | 15:46 |
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| Murali | Hi Swami | 15:47 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: having only one server side rpc contract under neutron/db does not make much sense to me… | 15:47 |
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| Swami_ | #topic DVR scheduler | 15:47 |
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| Swami_ | Murali: can you provide an update on the scheduler patch. | 15:47 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan: I appreciate this is the usual way of doing things…but there’s no reason to improve where we can :) | 15:47 |
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| Murali | I almost addressed all the review comments | 15:47 |
| Murali | and updated mutliple patches | 15:48 |
| Murali | NOw I am facing the issue with adding the dependent patch | 15:48 |
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| Swami_ | check with vivek on adding a dependent patch, vivek had done this before. | 15:48 |
| Murali | Jenkins are failing because of depency on Vivek changes | 15:49 |
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| Murali | my depedency path conatins the closed commit its not allowing me to post the review after merging with Vivek patch | 15:49 |
| Swami_ | murali: work with vivek and see what tests are failing | 15:49 |
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| Murali | Vivek knows the problem | 15:50 |
| Swami_ | Did you checkout viveks' patch first with a "-d" option. | 15:50 |
| Murali | yes Swami | 15:50 |
| Swami_ | can anyone help Murali to get rid of his dependency issues. | 15:51 |
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| Murali | I am trying to resolve by removing the closed commits from the dependency patch | 15:51 |
| armax | Murali: maybe I can help you with that, | 15:51 |
| Swami_ | armax: thanks. | 15:51 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i tried with murali today | 15:51 |
| Murali | Sure Armando I will work with you | 15:52 |
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| Swami_ | murali: work with armax on your issue and he will be able to help you. | 15:52 |
| viveknarasimhan | but not much luck as there were many pick IDs after his rebase | 15:52 |
| Murali | Sure I will check with armax | 15:52 |
| viveknarasimhan | selecting all of them landed us into further ado during git review CLI run | 15:52 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan, Murali: not sure I fully understand where you’re stuck on | 15:53 |
| armax | but let try to take this offline for later | 15:53 |
| viveknarasimhan | basically murali wants to rebase his latest changes | 15:53 |
| viveknarasimhan | on top of my patch | 15:53 |
| viveknarasimhan | basically it should now be tooped off on the Model changes # review id containing dvr_db.py | 15:53 |
| viveknarasimhan | we tried to rebase i to #87730 and then rebase to master | 15:53 |
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| viveknarasimhan | the rebase to master step conflicst we resolved but we could not post successful patch set later with 'git review' | 15:54 |
| Murali | on top of vivek changes when I merge to my scheduler branch there are some commits which are closed are not allowing to post for review | 15:54 |
| viveknarasimhan | murali, please send the details to him via mail | 15:54 |
| viveknarasimhan | so that armando would be able to guide you | 15:54 |
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| Murali | Sure I will drop a mail to Armando | 15:54 |
| armax | viveknarasimhan, Murali: yup…it seems like this is more a problem with using the tools | 15:55 |
| Murali | with full details | 15:55 |
| armax | rather that something fundamentally wrong with the code itself, correct? | 15:55 |
| Murali | its with code Armax | 15:55 |
| Murali | its not with code | 15:56 |
| * armax is confused | 15:56 | |
| Murali | Some issues while merging | 15:56 |
| viveknarasimhan | please expain details in mail murali | 15:56 |
| viveknarasimhan | that will give better picture | 15:56 |
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| Murali | I will send complete details | 15:56 |
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| armax | viveknarasimhan: yeah let’s take this offline | 15:56 |
| Swami_ | murali: you can take it offline | 15:56 |
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| Murali | thanks swami | 15:56 |
| Swami_ | murali: thanks for your update. | 15:57 |
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| Swami_ | #topic open discussions | 15:57 |
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| Swami_ | Any other topics that anyone wants to discuss | 15:57 |
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| Swami_ | Thanks everyone for joining the meeting | 15:58 |
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| Swami_ | We are at the end of the hour. | 15:58 |
| mrsmith | see you soon Swami! | 15:59 |
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| Swami_ | If there are no other topics, we will end the meeting. | 15:59 |
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| Swami_ | See you all next week. | 15:59 |
| armax | ciao | 15:59 |
| Swami_ | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 25 15:59:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-25-15.03.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-25-15.03.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-06-25-15.03.log.html | 15:59 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2'ers | 16:00 |
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| slogan | Sukhdev: hi | 16:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:00 |
| manishg | hi Sukhdev | 16:01 |
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| rcurran | hi | 16:01 |
| banix | hi | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #starttmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Opps.. | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #strartmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | still sleepy :-) | 16:02 |
| shivharis | hi | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 25 16:02:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | Sorry guys - overslept :-) | 16:03 |
| slogan | sukhdev: what time zone are you in? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | Good morning | 16:03 |
| chuckC | hi | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | PST | 16:03 |
| lukego | hoi | 16:03 |
| slogan | It's 9 a.m. here, | 16:03 |
| slogan | oh | 16:03 |
| slogan | same | 16:03 |
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| slogan | I jut woke up too, don't feel bad | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_June_25.2C_2014 | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not have any announcements - does anyone? | 16:04 |
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| shivharis | meeting next week ? | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | I am sure you all know about Nova to Neutron parity sprint coming up in couple of weeks | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: yes | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Action items from last week | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: Hi | 16:06 |
| banix | hi | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | banix: I saw the updates to the wiki - looks good | 16:06 |
| banix | cool | 16:06 |
| banix | added “type” also a table for code review | 16:07 |
| slogan | I don't recall who, but someone was going to talk to me offline about bug fixing - could be I wasn't on IRC and missed it. Who was it? | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | Did everybody have a chance to look/update the wiki? | 16:07 |
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| shivharis | slogan: i was | 16:07 |
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| slogan | I saw the wiki, looks good | 16:07 |
| shivharis | slogan: i could not map you to a lauchpad id or email | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | I think we have couple of patches ready for merge - | 16:08 |
| slogan | shivharis: slogan@broadcom.com | 16:08 |
| shivharis | i am going to talk about in the bugs section | 16:08 |
| slogan | k | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | Please review the patches so that we can get them merged | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | Also, update the wiki to reflect that | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | Starting next week, I intend to use this wiki to take it to core team and use it to get approvals | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | So, it will help if it updated and current | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | on to next topic | 16:10 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: yes, updated the wiki for my BP spec review | 16:10 |
| rcurran | Sukhdev, cool - so you're our muscle | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: :-) | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Modular L2 Agent | 16:10 |
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| sadasu | Sukhdev, thanks for getting us core attention | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | banix: I looked at the schematic - somehow the picture is crooked | 16:11 |
| banix | Haven’t heard much from others. Have started sending email to people :) | 16:11 |
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| banix | Sukhdev: sorry don’t know why; i just recalled someone else had the same problem last week and I forgot to address it. sorry. | 16:12 |
| banix | markmcclain has agreed to review and give feed back. i have asked a couple of others as well. | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | banix: I saw it…I am bit guilty as well….started to look into this, but, got pulled into critical issue -but, I did review good chunk of it | 16:12 |
| banix | Sukhdev: did you leave any comments? | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | banix: not yet - will do soon | 16:13 |
| banix | Sukhdev: sure thanks | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | Everybody - please have a look and provide feed back | 16:13 |
| shivharis | will do | 16:13 |
| banix | will try to move into a spec by this time next week; that may generate a wider set of reviewers | 16:13 |
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| banix | shivharis: thanks | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | banix: good idea | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: Floor is yours | 16:14 |
| shivharis | i need email/lanunchpad ids from:slogan, nlhouti, banix, padkrish_ | 16:14 |
| shivharis | please send me email at shivharis@gmail.com | 16:15 |
| banix | banix: will do | 16:15 |
| nlahouti | shivharis: nlahouti@cisco.com | 16:15 |
| shivharis | I had a tough time mapping these | 16:15 |
| banix | shivharis: will do | 16:15 |
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| padkrish | shivharis# will do | 16:15 |
| shivharis | thanks | 16:15 |
| slogan | ok | 16:15 |
| nlahouti | shivharis: I got one bug you assigned to me | 16:15 |
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| shivharis | i need help is delgating a bug, 1204456 please see agenda for link | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | nlahouti: cool - thanks | 16:16 |
| shivharis | this bug new owner will be working with mestery if need be | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1204456 | 16:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1204456 in neutron "neutron ml2 plugin test failures" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:16 |
| shivharis | nlahouti: i could map u, thanks summit | 16:16 |
| shivharis | slogan: ? | 16:17 |
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| slogan | yes? | 16:17 |
| shivharis | can you please pick this bug? | 16:17 |
| slogan | let me look at that bug, just a sec... | 16:17 |
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| shivharis | we'll move on: I need the next bug on agenda to be fixed in J2 | 16:18 |
| padkrish | #shiv# My e-mail is kprad1@yahoo.com, i have also e-mailed you | 16:18 |
| shivharis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1276391 | 16:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1276391 in neutron "ML2 MechanismDriver.bind_port() called inside transaction" [High,In progress] | 16:18 |
| shivharis | sukhdev: can u ping bob on this? | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: I chatted with him on this one yesterday | 16:19 |
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| HenryG | slogan: I may be able to help with bug 1204456 | 16:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1204456 in neutron "neutron ml2 plugin test failures" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204456 | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | Bob is working on it - he is on vacation and mentioned he will work on it while travelling | 16:20 |
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| shivharis | sukhdev: ok thanks, this is high priority | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | HenryG: that will be really cool - thanks | 16:20 |
| slogan | HenryG: ok | 16:20 |
| shivharis | this bug seems serious bug no action for a while; https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1224978 | 16:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1224978 in neutron "port binding on multi segment networks could lead to agent misconfiguration" [Medium,Incomplete] | 16:20 |
| shivharis | HenryG: Thx | 16:20 |
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| shivharis | I need help in getting closure on this, may not need real tech work it seems, need followup | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | Any volunteers to help out? | 16:22 |
| shivharis | any takers? or else I will ping individually | 16:22 |
| asomya | shivharis: I can help with that one | 16:22 |
| shivharis | asomya: thanks | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: Thanks - that will be really nice | 16:22 |
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| shivharis | This is a good time to get bugs fixed that affect all | 16:22 |
| shivharis | and be done by J2, so others affected can proceed | 16:23 |
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| shivharis | Also by J3 we will have review crunch | 16:23 |
| shivharis | Also I will start a wiki like banix, for bug reviews | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | Yes that is a good goal shivharis | 16:24 |
| shivharis | so if you have something needing atttention you can update that | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | banix: I was suppose to discuss with you on one bug - | 16:24 |
| shivharis | please ping me if you need review assistance. | 16:24 |
| shivharis | that all from my end | 16:24 |
| banix | Sukhdev: yeah the bulk ops | 16:25 |
| banix | Sukhdev: i can work on it and leave the sync stuff to later. would that be reasonable? | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | banix: correct - we need to that and make a decision as to how to proceed with this | 16:25 |
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| shivharis | banix: sync stuff and bulk ops may be related? | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | banix: yes - I wanted to discuss with you to come up with a plan | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: correct | 16:26 |
| shivharis | bulk ops may use sync stuff as task | 16:26 |
| banix | shall we discuss here? | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | banix: sure - everybody is here | 16:26 |
| banix | so there are two things wrt the bulk ops bug | 16:27 |
| banix | one is to remove the postcommit stuff out of transactions | 16:27 |
| banix | the other is how to deal with failiure in some | 16:27 |
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| banix | is this a correct description? | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | banix: yes - go on... | 16:28 |
| shivharis | sounds fine at high level, problems happen in details | 16:28 |
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| banix | So we can address these as separate items | 16:28 |
| shivharis | i.e. failure conditions | 16:28 |
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| shivharis | banix: sure | 16:28 |
| shivharis | banix: agreed remove these from transactions | 16:29 |
| banix | Sukhdev was planning to the sync operation we can use that when it is there; just thinking loud here | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | banix: OK | 16:29 |
| * banix needs to use punctuation | 16:29 | |
| shivharis | which means you need sync stuff before bulk stuff (in that situation) | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: I guess so | 16:30 |
| banix | shivharis: well, may be not; considerring that the sync stuff is a much bigger task | 16:30 |
| banix | we may want to do what we did earlier wrt failures in postcommit ops | 16:31 |
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| shivharis | banix: can we (possibly) have a way to do post_commit asynchronously | 16:31 |
| shivharis | banix: not may not be a big task. | 16:31 |
| * banix thinking | 16:31 | |
| shivharis | banix: we can leave aside "tasks" that Mark is implementing for now | 16:31 |
| banix | yeah wonder if that would be a major piece | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: Bob had action to investigate taks - | 16:32 |
| shivharis | banix: again thinking out loud, correct me if i am wrong | 16:33 |
| shivharis | banix: you can read the db in the async task and call post_commits | 16:33 |
| shivharis | banix: we can ignore the "tasks" for now | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: what you just said is very close to ML2 sync proposal :-) | 16:34 |
| banix | shivharis: yeah but a change like that may require spec/bp and all that; wont be a bug fix. no? | 16:34 |
| banix | yeah similarly with the sync | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | banix: we already have a BP | 16:34 |
| banix | Sukhdev: spec too? | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | banix: no | 16:34 |
| banix | planning to write the spec? | 16:35 |
| shivharis | banix: yeah, but then we are stuck | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | banix: we have google doc | 16:35 |
| banix | shivharis: Sukhdev so may be we need to plan this first? | 16:35 |
| banix | how to start working on sync I meant | 16:36 |
| shivharis | we bit the bullet and do all that (spec,bp etc) | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | So, shall I say - how I was thinking about addressing this issue? | 16:36 |
| shivharis | bit/bite | 16:36 |
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| banix | Sukhdev: yes :) | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | banix shivharis: I need volunteer to work on it with me | 16:36 |
| shivharis | Sukhdev: you are chair say whatever :-) | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | So, here it goes - | 16:36 |
| chuckC | Sukhdev is muscle, remember? | 16:37 |
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| shivharis | i can volunteer | 16:37 |
| chuckC | :) | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | I am thinking we perform pre-commits() - which means the operations are committed to DB | 16:37 |
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| Sukhdev | then we perform post-commits() | 16:37 |
| shivharis | i have a fairly reasonable idea what i want and how to map later to "tasks" | 16:38 |
| banix | Sukhdev: are you talking about bulk ops or in general? | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | The DB is considered "True source" - that is if a post-commit fails, it will be retied until the Driver is in sync with DB | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: this will solve for all cases | 16:39 |
| shivharis | oops, i though he was talking about sync | 16:39 |
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| shivharis | banix can still work on bulk stuff | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | It will not matter if you bulk all operations or perform serially | 16:39 |
| banix | yup got it; makes sense | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | If you look at Arista Driver - I support both Bulk as well individual operations in sync | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | and it works like a charm | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | I have a working model of sync in Arista Driver | 16:40 |
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| shivharis | 20 mins left | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | Bob and I have been chatting about brining it into ML2 plugin | 16:40 |
| banix | so this will be a major revision of ml2 architecture in some ways; correct? not bad but we need to keep that in mind. | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | So, if I can get some volunteers, we can setup a web-chat and go over this, plan it, write up specs…implementation is not too hard | 16:41 |
| shivharis | banix: right | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | banix: yes - it will be | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | banix: hence, requires proper planning | 16:42 |
| banix | yeah; sure; but we should consider that this wont make it in this cycle | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: I am affriad so | 16:43 |
| banix | considering all that is going on in Neutron | 16:43 |
| banix | is it worth to deal with the bulk bug wrt removing the post commit out of transaction? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | If you guys are willing to, we can take it to #openstack-neturon after this meeting and continue discussion and plan | 16:44 |
| banix | Sukhdev: sure; i will be available for 30 minutes past this call | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | banix: yes, I agree with you - we need to have a short term solution | 16:44 |
| shivharis | lets take it up later, i may not be available for about 1 hr after this meeting | 16:44 |
| slogan | Sukhadev: on bug 1204456 what platform are you on (e.g., OS and version) when you made comment 2? | 16:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1204456 in neutron "neutron ml2 plugin test failures" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204456 | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | OK - lets move on | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Spec Reviews | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | I went through the specs and reviewed many of them - all, please do the same | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | I believe two are ready to go - I listed them in the agenda | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | If you believe any other is ready to go, this is the time to call out | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | We should use this meeting and this time slot to cover that - | 16:46 |
| nlahouti | there is extension support for MD as well | 16:46 |
| banix | consider #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88101/ | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | I have initiated a dialogue with Kyle to get core approvals on these - hence, everybody won't have to chase the cores | 16:47 |
| padkrish | sukhdev# Thanks | 16:47 |
| nlahouti | rkukura supposed to review it | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: thanks for pointing out - i missed it for some reason. I will get this pushed as well | 16:47 |
| banix | Sukhdev: thx | 16:48 |
| shivharis | banix: it is very much like ODL, should not have a prob going through | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | Any other? | 16:48 |
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| nlahouti | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89208 | 16:48 |
| banix | shivharis: yeah; hope we can refactor/reuse code and possibly for future SDN controlers. | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | As long as we have 3 +1's from this sub-committee, I will go to work | 16:49 |
| shivharis | did mestery put -2 on it, did his comments get addressed? | 16:49 |
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| shivharis | ^^nlahouti^^ | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | nlahouti: I have seen and been waiting for you to address the comments | 16:49 |
| chuckC | wants rkukura to review | 16:49 |
| nlahouti | shivharis: yes. as I mentioned rkukura supposed to review it | 16:49 |
| shivharis | i skipped looking at it due to -2, can you remove that from the wiki | 16:50 |
| nlahouti | I captured them in the etherpad:https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ML2_MD_extensions | 16:50 |
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| Sukhdev | nlahouti: OK - rkukura told me yesterday that he has few specs to review - perhaps he was talking about this…he mentioned he will do it while travelling - | 16:51 |
| nlahouti | shivharis: you mean the -2 ? | 16:51 |
| shivharis | yes, you need to update the wiki | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | nlahouti: so, lets wait --- if he pings me while travelling, I will remind him of this | 16:51 |
| nlahouti | Sukhdev: yes he was mentioning that is one of his top proirotity | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | Any other spec? | 16:52 |
| shivharis | 7 mins left | 16:52 |
| nlahouti | Sukhdev: thx. Our other BP depends on it | 16:52 |
| yamamoto | i want to make a progress on this. any idea? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89463/ | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | Moving on | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: did you connect with Mark on it? | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Code Reviews | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron,n,z | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | When you review a spec, it will be good idea to follow up with a code review as well | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Third Party Test Sytem | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | I am sure all of us are impacted by this - | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | I am updating my CI to correct the logs - | 16:56 |
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| Sukhdev | Please be sure to follow the guidelines https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronThirdPartyTesting | 16:56 |
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| Sukhdev | Anita is going to come very hard on us - who do not follow the guidelines | 16:57 |
| yamamoto | i pinged mark today | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | I believe the deadline is J2 | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: good | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Open Discussion | 16:57 |
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| shivharis | J2 -> july 24 | 16:57 |
| yamamoto | is it supposed to test stable branches as well? | 16:58 |
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| chuckC | I have bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1236127, wondering what the coverage goal is | 16:58 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1236127 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs additional unit tests" [Medium,In progress] | 16:58 |
| yamamoto | the wiki page is not clear about branches | 16:58 |
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| shivharis | i believe stable should be covered, but check with anteaya | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | chuckC: what do you mean? | 16:59 |
| amotoki | yamamoto: i think we need to clarfiy the requirement. It should be raised to neutron meeting. | 16:59 |
| amotoki | IMO at least stable/icehouse should be covered | 16:59 |
| chuckC | Sukhdev: bug is code coverage bug, do I need to hit 100% coverage to close the bug? | 16:59 |
| shivharis | chuckC: please send mestery a mail, he owned this bug before | 17:00 |
| chuckC | shivharis: ok, thanks | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | chuckC: I have seen less than 100% - but, it is not hard and fast rule | 17:00 |
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| chuckC | Sukhdev: ok, thanks | 17:01 |
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| banix | out of time | 17:01 |
| amotoki | we can use partial-bug, but if it is big i would suggest to split the bug into several sub-bugs. | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else - we are out of time | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| banix | bye | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 25 17:01:48 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-25-16.02.html | 17:01 |
| shivharis | bye all | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-25-16.02.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-06-25-16.02.log.html | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | bye\ | 17:01 |
| yamamoto | bye | 17:01 |
| slogan | bye | 17:02 |
| chuckC | amotoki: yeah, did one fix partial-bug already | 17:02 |
| chuckC | bye | 17:02 |
| asomya | bye | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | hey - whos here for designate? | 17:02 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:02 |
| jaycaz1 | i'm here! | 17:03 |
| timfreund | hello | 17:03 |
| rjrjr_ | here | 17:03 |
| mugsie | I am going to be running the meeting - Kiall is out today | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 25 17:03:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:03 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:03 |
| eankutse | here | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
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| dtx00ff | here | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | all to review owner transfer spec @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100267/ | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | that was done, and merged | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | kiall Assuming no -1's, +A #100336 - done | 17:04 |
| richm | I'm sort of here | 17:04 |
| mugsie | mugsie to validate pools BPs are up to date with summit session notes and decisions before Monday, giving Monday/Tuesday as review time to people ;) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101298/ | 17:04 |
| mugsie | I have this on the agenda for later, so we will come back top the spec itslef | 17:04 |
| jaycaz1 | hacking update is done and merged | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | kiall to put dividing up pools BPs on next agenda - done | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic IP Address Filtering | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | Who was this? | 17:05 |
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| jaycaz1 | that was me | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | cool, - you have the floor | 17:05 |
| jaycaz1 | All right, well I've been charged with adding filtering, but it turns out that much of it has been implemented, to our surprise | 17:05 |
| betsy | What’s the blueprint for filtering? | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/filtering | 17:06 |
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| jaycaz1 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/Filtering_API | 17:06 |
| jaycaz1 | both of these | 17:06 |
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| jaycaz1 | the main question I have is this: | 17:07 |
| jaycaz1 | we know we want a tenant to be able to filter by address within a single recordset using /zone/id/recordsets/id/records?data=... | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:08 |
| jaycaz1 | and, from what eankutse has specified, we would like to have an all_tenants option for admins | 17:08 |
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| jaycaz1 | but should there also be an option for individial tenants to be able to search for an address through all their zones with one command? | 17:09 |
| jaycaz1 | something similar to what admins would be able to do, but just within everything the tenant owns | 17:09 |
| mugsie | for filtering (in my opinion) no | 17:09 |
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| betsy | is that more of a serach function than filtering? | 17:09 |
| jaycaz1 | I suppose so | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | I think that would fall under the search plugin we discussed in atlanta | 17:09 |
| jaycaz1 | however, would the all_tenants option not be search also? | 17:10 |
| jaycaz1 | or is there a table of records for admins to filter? | 17:10 |
| jaycaz1 | sorry, I'm just not familiar with the details | 17:10 |
| mugsie | jaycaz1, they would not be able to filter on records from all teneants | 17:10 |
| betsy | The bp isn’t marked as approved. Is it worth it for everyone to review the bp and get the details finalized? | 17:10 |
| mugsie | they may be able to filter across all zones - but no sub resources | 17:11 |
| jaycaz1 | okay, so then would filtering by address across all tenants not be possible for admins then? | 17:11 |
| mugsie | not as far as i would have read that spec | 17:11 |
| mugsie | (or discussed before) - i think they were all based around the search plugin | 17:12 |
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| timsim | Unless there was a specific v2/records v2/recordsets endpoint I guess? | 17:12 |
| jaycaz1 | that was discussed in an earlier IRC meeting | 17:12 |
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| jaycaz1 | the possibility of adding another endpoint like that | 17:12 |
| mugsie | v2/records etc? yeah | 17:13 |
| jaycaz1 | so, if that was added, would filtering be possible then? | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | possibly - but it would break our current api design | 17:13 |
| betsy | I thought we had discussed earlier having a filtering functionality and a search funtionality with a separate endpoint | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeah - the idea was to fix this with a search enbdpoint | 17:14 |
| betsy | But those discussions never got finalized, as I remember | 17:14 |
| mugsie | we did some high level talking in atlanta | 17:14 |
| timsim | So filtering Recordsets by RData is out of the question? | 17:14 |
| mugsie | timsim, i think so at the moment | 17:15 |
| eankutse | timsim: you mean for A record? | 17:15 |
| jaycaz1 | right now, you can filter the records in a single recordset, by data | 17:16 |
| timsim | I mean we can filter records in a recordset right now. | 17:16 |
| jaycaz1 | so for A records, that would be filtering by address | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | timsim, i think we changed that actually, so you should be able to filter recordset by type - i think recordsets now have a type associated with them | 17:17 |
| betsy | Yes | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/Recordset_Record_API_Redesign | 17:18 |
| betsy | And when I get my changes checked it, there won’t be a record resource any more | 17:18 |
| timsim | recordset/id/records/?data=1.2.% works. Yeah you can filter recordsets by type. But if you take away the records endpoint, shouldn't you extend the filtering to actually filter the records? | 17:18 |
| timsim | as well as the type of the rrset? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | yes, I think so - that will need to be added to the filtering API BP | 17:19 |
| mugsie | eankutse, you still looking after that? | 17:19 |
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| eankutse | not at the moment | 17:19 |
| timsim | mugsie: I think jaycaz is doing that now. | 17:19 |
| jaycaz1 | I made some changes to it recently | 17:19 |
| mugsie | ok - cool | 17:20 |
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| timsim | As far as filtering across all tenants though, we're thinking that should be more of a search function? | 17:20 |
| betsy | We should assign the bp to jaycaz1 | 17:20 |
| jaycaz1 | If we have a solid idea of what should be done, I'd be more than happy to fix the bp | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | #action jaycaz1 to investigate filtering on record data via recordsets API endpoint | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | jaycaz1, and you have the action to look at it ;) | 17:20 |
| rjrjr_ | update the BP and let's review? | 17:20 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:20 |
| mugsie | timsim, yes - i think for recordset / record data filtering across tenants, that would be a search | 17:21 |
| mugsie | filtering should only reduce the entries returned from an endpoint | 17:21 |
| mugsie | and at the moment, admins have no way of getting all records across designate | 17:22 |
| mugsie | they can get all zones, but not recordsets | 17:22 |
| timsim | mugsie: Right, so with that logic searching for a zone system-wide would be the same thing. Basically any admin system-wide thing needs to be in a search function. | 17:22 |
| mugsie | (the recordset list is inheritantly limited to a zone) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | well, if an admin did a v2/zones?all_tennants=true that could allow it | 17:23 |
| rjrjr_ | timsim: seems that way. | 17:23 |
| mugsie | but I would prefer a search method | 17:23 |
| mugsie | (for consistancy) | 17:23 |
| rjrjr_ | search across zones, filter within zone | 17:23 |
| timsim | mugsie: Is that how you get all zones? | 17:23 |
| mugsie | eh.... not sure if that ever got implemeted | 17:24 |
| mugsie | it was brought up as a possiblity a while ago | 17:24 |
| timsim | Yeah I don't think you can actually get all zones in the system | 17:24 |
| mugsie | but I don't think we ever agreed on it | 17:24 |
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| timsim | I agree that basically all of that functionality other than narrowing down already apparent resources should be in a search module. | 17:25 |
| jaycaz1 | If admins canot get all zones, then would the all_tenants option be a search feature instead of a filtering feature? | 17:25 |
| mugsie | yesh | 17:25 |
| mugsie | yeah* | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | anything else on this item | 17:26 |
| mugsie | ? | 17:26 |
| betsy | So what’s the action? | 17:26 |
| mugsie | jaycaz1, to investigate the filtering of record data from the recordset endpoint | 17:27 |
| mugsie | and update the filtering api bp | 17:27 |
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| timsim | We're good. | 17:27 |
| jaycaz1 | I could also add something about search on the wiki and move the features that were on the filtering bp over | 17:27 |
| mugsie | and we need to discuss the search endpiont i detail at some point soon | 17:27 |
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| betsy | So now action on the search functionality | 17:27 |
| jaycaz1 | the ones that belong in search, not filtering | 17:27 |
| betsy | ok | 17:27 |
| mugsie | betsy: i think we could spend a whole meeting on search ;) | 17:28 |
| betsy | oh, yeah | 17:28 |
| mugsie | ok, moving on | 17:28 |
| mugsie | #topic Pools BP - Overview | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101298/ | 17:28 |
| betsy | that was supposed to be ‘no’ action | 17:28 |
| mugsie | ah - that make more sense ;) | 17:28 |
| betsy | :D | 17:29 |
| mugsie | have people seen ^ ? | 17:29 |
| timsim | Not me. | 17:29 |
| betsy | nope | 17:29 |
| mugsie | It is a WIP (aka ready for comment) | 17:29 |
| vinod1 | I wanted some clarification on GET /v2/pools/<pool-id>/servers/<server-id> | 17:29 |
| mugsie | vinod1 - shoot | 17:29 |
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| timsim | Is there a place to see it rendered? | 17:30 |
| mugsie | this is a first draft, waiting for people to put in put, ad show up my memeory ;) | 17:30 |
| betsy | yes | 17:30 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:30 |
| vinod1 | essentially how nameserver, hostname, hosts are related/different | 17:30 |
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| vinod1 | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/98/101298/1/check/gate-designate-specs-docs/f195cd5/doc/build/html/specs/juno/server-pools.html | 17:30 |
| mugsie | vinod1, for most installations, they will be the same | 17:30 |
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| mugsie | but if you are a large provider - a nameserver is a collection of hosts, with a hostname | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | and the hostname may point to a loadbalencer, which points at the hosts | 17:31 |
| mugsie | so this allows us to have a single VIP, that is backed my multiple hosts | 17:31 |
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| vinod1 | so end users who want to get dns names resolved use nameserver? | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | yes | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | that is what is shown to users | 17:32 |
| vinod1 | where/how would the pool mgr resolve the hostname and hosts (from names to ips?) | 17:33 |
| mugsie | whatever the dns resolvers are on the machine running the pool mgnr | 17:33 |
| mugsie | or you can just put ips in as the hosts | 17:33 |
| mugsie | the pool manager will only talk to the hosts | 17:34 |
| vinod1 | so the nameserver is what goes out in the SOA records - correct? | 17:34 |
| mugsie | yes | 17:34 |
| vinod1 | and the hosts are what the pool mgr notifies the zone changes? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:35 |
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| vinod1 | when a new zone is created - what would the pool mgr do? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | use the backend to create the zone on each host | 17:36 |
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| mugsie | (we will have the simplified backends remember, they are now going to be loaded in the pool manager | 17:36 |
| vinod1 | so we would still need backends for creation (and deletion?) | 17:36 |
| mugsie | not in central) | 17:36 |
| mugsie | yes - pools doesn;t remove that unfortunatly | 17:37 |
| rjrjr_ | creation, deletion of zones and TSIG keys. | 17:37 |
| mugsie | rjrjr_, yup good point | 17:37 |
| shakamunyi | mugsie++ | 17:37 |
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| vinod1 | so coming back to the nameserver, hostname, hosts - is hostname used anywhere? | 17:38 |
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| mugsie | vinod1: eh ... nope | 17:39 |
| mugsie | ( i think I typo'd) | 17:39 |
| mugsie | and yeah - i did | 17:39 |
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| shakamunyi | vinod1 AFAIK no | 17:40 |
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| vinod1 | so can we remove it - to make things simpler? | 17:40 |
| mugsie | yeah, that was a left over from a previous daft | 17:40 |
| mugsie | it should have come out | 17:40 |
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| mugsie | I will fix that | 17:40 |
| mugsie | any other questions? | 17:41 |
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| vinod1 | none from me | 17:41 |
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| mugsie | if you havent had time to read it, just leave comments on the review | 17:41 |
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| mugsie | (thats why we created the -specs repo) | 17:41 |
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| mugsie | #topic Pools BP - Divide Work Items | 17:42 |
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| mugsie | So - at the bottom there is a table of work items | 17:42 |
| mugsie | if people are interested - just leave a comment / email me / ping me on IRC / speak now / send a carrier pidgon* | 17:43 |
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| vinod1 | Are there dependencies between the workitems? | 17:43 |
| mugsie | * I really want someone to do the carrier pidgin | 17:43 |
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| mugsie | there is some | 17:43 |
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| timsim | Might have to be a carrier eagle from here. | 17:44 |
| mugsie | timsim, true | 17:44 |
| rjrjr_ | about carrier pigeon, i'll see what i can do. 8^) | 17:44 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:44 |
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| mugsie | there is a ton of work - we are very dependant on miniDNS first though | 17:45 |
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| mugsie | any questions / comments? | 17:45 |
| eankutse | mugsie: we determined that some pools work can proceed now | 17:46 |
| eankutse | right? | 17:46 |
| rjrjr_ | mugsie: looks good. we'll get back to you in the next day or so. | 17:46 |
| mugsie | yeap - the central / storage stuff can go in | 17:46 |
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| mugsie | (we will have a config item for a while that defines the "default_pool" | 17:46 |
| vinod1 | mugsie if you could add the dependencies/what can start now etc in the notes section - that would be helpful | 17:46 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:46 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie define dependancies for Pool BP | 17:47 |
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| betsy | Will we need separate bp’s for those work items like we did for mini dns? | 17:47 |
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| betsy | And the cool dependency tree that resulted? | 17:47 |
| mugsie | betsy: depends on how large that are | 17:47 |
| mugsie | they* | 17:48 |
| vinod1 | Folks planning to take action items - putting in your name in the notes section might be helpful to ensure we don't duplicate efforts | 17:48 |
| mugsie | but most likely - and we can use the current bps on launchpad | 17:48 |
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| mugsie | yeap - or comment in line on the table | 17:49 |
| eankutse | mugsie: just want to check my understanding on mini dns and server pool dependencies | 17:49 |
| eankutse | for create/delete | 17:49 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:49 |
| eankutse | pools do not depend on mini dns right? | 17:49 |
| eankutse | only for updates | 17:49 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:49 |
| eankutse | ok. So all that work for pools can proceed along with mini dns | 17:50 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:50 |
| eankutse | cool | 17:50 |
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| mugsie | if the notify stuff gets done - that would be a huge step for pools | 17:50 |
| eankutse | yes | 17:51 |
| eankutse | agreed | 17:51 |
| mugsie | anything else? | 17:51 |
| mugsie | ok | 17:51 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:51 |
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| mugsie | anyone have anything? | 17:51 |
| rjrjr_ | information about mini-summit? | 17:51 |
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| mugsie | I don't have any personally - Kiall has been dealing with it | 17:52 |
| vinod1 | mugsie: do you know the venue of the minisummit (address)? | 17:52 |
| mugsie | but I can get it from him / get him to ping you tomorrow? | 17:52 |
| timsim | We haven't heard anything from Joe | 17:52 |
| mugsie | I *think* it is in Seattle - the last i was told anyway | 17:52 |
| rjrjr_ | i am a probably, but i need details (dates, location, etc.) | 17:52 |
| mugsie | it is 701 Pike St, Seattle, WA 98101 | 17:53 |
| mugsie | (the office address anyway) | 17:53 |
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| rjrjr_ | do you know which dates? | 17:53 |
| mugsie | eh - let me look | 17:54 |
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| mugsie | July 27 to 29 is what I have | 17:54 |
| mugsie | but I thought iot was going to be 2 days | 17:54 |
| mugsie | it* | 17:54 |
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| vinod1 | July 27 is a Sunday | 17:55 |
| mugsie | but again - will get Kiall (who has been dealing with our HP side, to confirm tomorrow) | 17:55 |
| rjrjr_ | okay | 17:55 |
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| mugsie | I had one item - the mailing list | 17:55 |
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| mugsie | can people try and keep an eye, and reply to designate stuff on the -dev list? Just as we are now incubated - this will cause the traffic to increase | 17:56 |
| eankutse | okay | 17:56 |
| eankutse | :-) | 17:57 |
| rjrjr_ | yes (i might have to join) | 17:57 |
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| mugsie | we have been pretty good so far | 17:57 |
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| betsy | mugsie: good point | 17:57 |
| mugsie | but just to help build the community | 17:57 |
| timsim | I'll have to fix my subscription, I go on there and it says I should be getting stuff, but I get nothing. | 17:57 |
| vinod1 | if i put a filter for designate on the mailing list - i do not get any mails | 17:57 |
| timsim | ^^^ that | 17:57 |
| mugsie | humm | 17:57 |
| vinod1 | any ideas? | 17:57 |
| vinod1 | so i have to remove all filters and then i start seeing mails - all of them | 17:57 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie investigate designate mailing list filter | 17:57 |
| mugsie | I have no idea - i get all the emails | 17:58 |
| timsim | I'll start getting them and filter it myself for now. | 17:58 |
| mugsie | I have them go to a folder, unless they have designate in the title | 17:58 |
| mugsie | oh, one final note - on saturday our git repo is moving | 17:58 |
| mugsie | we will be openstack/designate instead of stackforge/designate | 17:59 |
| mugsie | so on monday you may have to update your git remotes | 17:59 |
| mugsie | and we are out of time | 17:59 |
| eankutse | incubation stuff | 17:59 |
| eankutse | huh? | 17:59 |
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| eankutse | bye | 18:00 |
| mugsie | eankutse, yeap - we are now part of the openstack org | 18:00 |
| mugsie | :D | 18:00 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 25 18:00:16 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-25-17.03.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-25-17.03.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-06-25-17.03.log.html | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks mugsie! | 18:00 |
| mugsie | SlickNik, all youers | 18:00 |
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| mugsie | yours* | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 25 18:00:50 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Agenda at: | 18:01 |
| grapex | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
| amrith | 0/ | 18:01 |
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| kevinconway | 7o7 | 18:02 |
| pdmars | o/ | 18:02 |
| schang | o/ | 18:02 |
| cp16net | o\ | 18:02 |
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| abramley | o/ | 18:02 |
| tvoran | o/ | 18:02 |
| robe5515 | o/ | 18:03 |
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| peterstac | o/ | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | #topic Action Items | 18:03 |
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| iccha1 | o/ | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | None from last meeting, so let's move on to other topics. | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | #topic Integration-tests update | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Integration-tests update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:04 | |
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| SlickNik | Put this into the schedule to let folks know about changes that have been made / are being made to the int-test infrastructure. | 18:05 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:05 |
| kevinconway | sounds scary | 18:05 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Is this "int-test"? | 18:05 |
| grapex | Or the Tempest tests? | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | grapex: yes rdjenkins running int-test | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | You might have noticed the trove gate running a bit faster (~1:10 instead of ~1:30) | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | And the reason for that is that we're now using a cached dib image for the guestagent. | 18:07 |
| cp16net | ahh yeah | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | bad ass | 18:07 |
| grapex | SlickNik: nice | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | So the image we're using is being pulled from http://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/images/ubuntu_mysql.qcow2/ | 18:07 |
| * amrith hoists a pitcher to the person who delivered this ... cheers! | 18:08 | |
| SlickNik | And currently gets built as part of an experimental openstack-infra job on trove-integration. | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | (where the elements are stored) | 18:08 |
| grapex | SlickNik: So there's a job that's always running to update the image? | 18:09 |
| cp16net | #link http://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/images/ubuntu_mysql.qcow2/ | 18:09 |
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| peterstac | I'd assume the image is updated whenever a change is merged, no? | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | grapex: currently it runs on demand when someone leaves a check-experimental comment on a trove-integration patch | 18:10 |
| grapex | Nice | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | I'm going to shortly fix that so it runs post a change merge to trove-integration, as peterstac mentions | 18:11 |
| cp16net | yeah sounds good | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | Also, there's a patch out to devstack to use the cached image during a trove install. | 18:11 |
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| peterstac | SlickNik: Still, better than building it each time - good work! | 18:11 |
| cp16net | +1 | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102455/ | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | Once that merges, we can start testing datastores as part of the tempest tests. | 18:12 |
| kevinconway | SlickNik: so how does tempest run datastore tests? | 18:13 |
| kevinconway | aren't they all trove integration tests? | 18:13 |
| kevinconway | or is it that the current temptest tests will be run against multiple datastores? | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | kevinconway: I meant Datastore API tests (not actual datastore guest tests just yet) | 18:14 |
| grapex | SlickNik: what's the distinction between an API test and an "actual datastore guest test?" | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | i.e. Test that there's a default datastore using the API, and that it has a default version. | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | There's still two open items that need to be fixed before we can test spinning up an actual guest as part of the gate | 18:15 |
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| grapex | SlickNik: So when that happens how difficult will it be to run on a local VM? | 18:16 |
| grapex | Will it be roughly the same only you'll have to build the image first and then kick it off? | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | grapex: The default in trove-integration is still to build an image, and kick it off. | 18:17 |
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| grapex | SlickNik: Cool | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | grapex: However if you specify an env var i.e. TROVE_IMAGE_DOWNLOAD_URL, it'll instead download a cached image from that location and use that instead. | 18:18 |
| cp16net | thats cool | 18:19 |
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| SlickNik | So the outstanding issues to be able to test guest-images in the gate : | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | 1. Still need figure out a way to allow the prebuilt image to pull in the trove-guestagent code (the way we do it today is schlepping down a know pub_key in authorized_keys on the host, and something similar might have to be done in devstack) | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | 2. The paths where the guest code need to be rsync'ed from are different in the trove-integration, and devstack-gate cases. Still need to figure out a way to handle that issue. | 18:20 |
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| iccha1 | as we build new processes, can we ensure they get documented? like check-experimental for tests etc | 18:21 |
| SnowDust | iccha1 +1 | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | iccha1: That's specific step is one that will go away soon. But we should definitely update the dev-docs with this new info about things like the env-var that I just mentioned. | 18:22 |
| iccha1 | sweet! thanks SlickNik | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to update the dev-docs with build / test process updates. | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | On another front, I've been working to move our trove-int tests that run on rdjenkins to openstack-infra. | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | So you guys might see a few patches to trove-integration to allow the tests to run in a devstack-gate environment. | 18:24 |
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| SlickNik | That's pretty much all I had. | 18:24 |
| * amrith hoists another pitcher to the person who delivered this ... cheers! | 18:25 | |
| SlickNik | Thanks amrith | 18:25 |
| SnowDust | amrith :) | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | Come find me if you have any question regarding any of this. | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | Let's move on. | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | #topic Vertica Datastore patch review | 18:26 |
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| amrith | i've been slogging through it | 18:26 |
| SnowDust | Yes .. community .. any reasons .. not reviewing it ? | 18:26 |
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| amrith | there are some large-ish patch sets | 18:26 |
| kevinconway | when did this pop up on the agenda? | 18:26 |
| amrith | like neutron | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | kevinconway: It was a late addition. | 18:26 |
| amrith | and I'm actually trying to run the thing | 18:27 |
| SnowDust | kevinconway : added an hour ago | 18:27 |
| amrith | and it isn't trivial | 18:27 |
| SlickNik | SnowDust: There are a few reasons for this. | 18:27 |
| SnowDust | amrith: thanks for your effort .. | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | As amrith mentions, it is a big patch-set | 18:27 |
| amrith | postgres which kevinconway submitted is a whole lot easier | 18:27 |
| SnowDust | amrith : i know .. | 18:27 |
| SnowDust | SlickNik: ok understand .. | 18:28 |
| kevinconway | amrith: thanks! someone looked at it! | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | And there have been a lot of other reviews as well. | 18:28 |
| SnowDust | kevinconway : ;) | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | SnowDust: It would help if you could get some of the global logic folks to look at other reviews too. | 18:28 |
| SnowDust | SlickNik .. we will do that .. positively now on .. | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | I think denis makogon suggested breaking up the patchsets. | 18:29 |
| amrith | SnowDust ... I'm assuming that you are looking for reviews on all the patch sets | 18:30 |
| amrith | there are three or four | 18:30 |
| SnowDust | amrith : right .. | 18:30 |
| amrith | and that's a bit of a pain | 18:30 |
| SnowDust | amrith: if we go by denis .. we will have more patchsets .. | 18:30 |
| grapex | Ask not, what Trove can do for you... what you... can do for Trove | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | That does help with making the review chunks easier, but sometimes you lose context while jumping between patchsets while reviewing . | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | So there's pros and cons to that approach. | 18:31 |
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| SnowDust | SlickNik: thats why i got this topic in meeting | 18:31 |
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| SlickNik | grapex kennedy: lol, and +1 too | 18:31 |
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| SnowDust | I agree .. we have complete functionality to showcase .. and thats a lot of work from our side :) | 18:32 |
| amrith | SnowDust ... let's not make this personal. denis had a good point and in most cases it is a good approach. IN this instance, it is a little bit more difficult to get a common context across all of them | 18:32 |
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| SnowDust | amrith : i value denis .. nothing personal .. | 18:32 |
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| SlickNik | Another reason, imo is that we don't automated tests for different datastores at the moment. | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | So as amrith alluded to earlier, you end up having to do a dry-run / check by hand. | 18:33 |
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| SlickNik | Hopefully we can fix this soon. | 18:33 |
| SnowDust | So, whats action item for me / us on this ? | 18:34 |
| SnowDust | Or the team's openion .. | 18:34 |
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| SlickNik | SnowDust: Perhaps you can start looking at setting up some sort of automated third-party testing infrastructure for this? | 18:35 |
| amrith | SlickNik, the problem I've been having is similar to both vertica and postgres and it has to do with making the guest image. so I'm struggling with a common problem on both patch sets. hopefully I'll get past that soon. | 18:35 |
| SnowDust | amrith .. i will try helping u for vertica .. | 18:36 |
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| amrith | SnowDust, thanks. my problem is likely related to my configuration/vmware on my laptop. | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | amrith: That's a good point. Perhaps building a cached image and making it available somewhere would be a good start. | 18:36 |
| SnowDust | OK .. i will take that item .. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | trove-integration now supports using a pre-built cached image for guests, you know ;) | 18:37 |
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| * amrith hoists another pitcher to the person who delivered this ... cheers! | 18:37 | |
| SnowDust | Yeah .. good | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | Okay, thanks SnowDust. | 18:37 |
| grapex | SlickNik: You may want to start flickering the lights. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | (and amrith) | 18:38 |
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| SlickNik | grapex: lol | 18:38 |
| grapex | amrith: I think you've had enough! | 18:38 |
| SnowDust | grapex: :D | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | I think he just wants an excuse to imbibe :P | 18:38 |
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| amrith | grapex, there is no such thing as 'enough'. Anyway, I've been off the sauce for some days now. | 18:38 |
| grapex | amrith: I keed, I keed | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | Hopefully we can get more eyeballs and tests on these biggish "datastore" patches and get them moving soon. | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Help from all fronts is much appreciated. :) | 18:39 |
| grapex | SlickNik: I'm pretty depressed the official way we test them is "run them by hand" | 18:39 |
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| grapex | I know you're working hard to change that | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | grapex: me too :( | 18:39 |
| grapex | but in my experience that just means that even if we do more work to check in more datastore code for all we know it could break shortly afterwards | 18:39 |
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| grapex | So the big blockers are just being able to get the guest agent code onto a server in a test environment, right? | 18:40 |
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| SlickNik | yup, that's the big one I'm hitting right now | 18:41 |
| grapex | Not trying to be negative- I appreciate all the hard work you're done. | 18:41 |
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| grapex | In theory, shouldn't Tempest already be able to run in the redstack Jenkins job? | 18:42 |
| amrith | grapex, for me that is. I was having trouble getting a guest agent (with mysql) to boot on my machine due to my own stupidity mostly. I'm through that now but still havign issues with pg and vertica | 18:42 |
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| SlickNik | grapex: Yes, I don't see why now. | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | not* | 18:42 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Just suggesting if we ran it there we could start at least writing Tempest tests today for these things | 18:42 |
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| SlickNik | grapex: THis comes back to having some sort of third party tests running for the new datastore type. | 18:44 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Ok | 18:44 |
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| SlickNik | grapex: you actually bring up a very good point. | 18:45 |
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| SlickNik | SnowDust: perhaps we can make something like the "simple" test group run for Vertica on a Jenkins box somewhere? | 18:47 |
| SnowDust | ok .. | 18:47 |
| grapex | SlickNik: agreed. We need it already for Redis | 18:47 |
| grapex | If you're talking about adding to the existing int-tests | 18:47 |
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| SlickNik | grapex: Yes, I figured that if we do that, it would be fairly straightforward to move to the devstack-gate infra when we have the kinks ironed out. | 18:48 |
| grapex | Ok. I think that's a good idea, and we could contribute some stuff soon-ish | 18:49 |
| grapex | I was thinking though of running Tempest in the redstack jenkins job | 18:49 |
| grapex | Just so we could run it somewhere and get some feedback / insight as to how it works | 18:49 |
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| SlickNik | I think that it'd be a bigger task to get Tempest running on the rdjenkins box. I don't want to go down a path of having to invent a new, separate devstack-gate wrapper to do that. | 18:51 |
| grapex | I'd love to start using Tempest internally at Rax so we could contribute new datastore specific tests back upstream. Having it run in the redstack vm would help show an example of how it works. | 18:52 |
| grapex | Ok- if it's a bigger task then that makes sense. | 18:52 |
| grapex | I was thinking it could run after the current int-tests | 18:52 |
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| grapex | but it sounds like the setup might be very expensive or complex | 18:52 |
| SlickNik | Let me look into what might be the best / quickest thing to do here. | 18:54 |
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| SlickNik | I'll update you guys next week with what I find. | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | Might have to do some digging. | 18:54 |
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| grapex | Cool. Thanks SlickNik! | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | Thank you! | 18:55 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open DIscussion | 18:55 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, I have two | 18:55 |
| SlickNik | amrith: go for it | 18:55 |
| amrith | 1. other groups are sending out an email about the midcycle meetups. I intend to do that for trove. OK? | 18:55 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Sure thing, go for it. | 18:56 |
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| amrith | 2. there's a project doing a general cleanup of logging. I noticed a couple of change sets that were fixing logging of messages, typos and the like. I'd like to suggest that we eschew these one-of changes in favor of the project | 18:56 |
| grapex | amrith: Project? Like a cross-OpenStack thing? | 18:57 |
| amrith | grapex, no. trove | 18:57 |
| amrith | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1324206 | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1324206 in trove "audit logging levels" [Low,In progress] | 18:57 |
| amrith | youza, what's that? | 18:57 |
| SlickNik | If you link a bug, he shows up | 18:58 |
| amrith | how many bots do we have in this room... | 18:58 |
| cp16net | i'm a bot | 18:58 |
| SlickNik | only big brother knows. | 18:58 |
| grapex | amrith: This project is more bot than man! | 18:58 |
| grapex | amrith: hmm... sounds like something a NON-bot would say... | 18:58 |
| SlickNik | amrith: That sounds reasonable. | 18:58 |
| amrith | thx | 18:58 |
| * grapex shifty eyes to SlickNik and cp16net | 18:58 | |
| amrith | that's all I had | 18:59 |
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| grapex | amrith: Good idea flesh-creature | 18:59 |
| grapex | I mean, person | 18:59 |
| * cp16net has no face | 18:59 | |
| glucas | it's bots all the way down | 18:59 |
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| cp16net | done? | 18:59 |
| amrith | done | 18:59 |
| SlickNik | Cool, anything else? | 19:00 |
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| cp16net | time | 19:00 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 25 19:00:12 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-25-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 19:00 |
| grapex | See you! | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-25-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-06-25-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
| amrith | ciao | 19:00 |
| cp16net | thx | 19:00 |
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| esp | thx | 19:00 |
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| SlickNik | And thanks for the good discussion regarding the third party testing! | 19:00 |
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