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| samstav | #startmeeting satori | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 30 15:00:43 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samstav. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: satori)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'satori' | 15:00 |
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| samstav | Howdy. Welcome to the satori meeting. Who's here? | 15:02 |
| n1ck-o | Hi samstav, I'm here | 15:03 |
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| samstav | cool. Thanks n1ck-o | 15:06 |
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| samstav | #topic action items | 15:07 |
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| samstav | We will punt an item for zns | 15:08 |
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| samstav | #action zns start ML discussion & blueprint for built-in python data plane discovery | 15:08 |
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| samstav | n1ck-o, last week I added an item for you, to address the comments on | 15:09 |
| samstav | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98383/ | 15:09 |
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| n1ck-o | OK | 15:10 |
| samstav | Since you weren't around then, I could declare it again for you to comment on next week | 15:10 |
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| samstav | #action n1ck-o Address comments on submission 98383 | 15:14 |
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| samstav | #action samstav See about removing the subprocess call to another python module. Do this seamlessly inside pse.oh instead | 15:16 |
| samstav | I might not be able to get to that item for a while. Lots of other work going on. | 15:17 |
| samstav | I'll punt it until I do. | 15:17 |
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| samstav | #topic general-discussion | 15:18 |
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| samstav | I like to post links related to current blueprints/submissions, to have in the minutes | 15:19 |
| samstav | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/posh-ohai | 15:19 |
| samstav | #link https://github.com/rackerlabs/ohai-plugins | 15:20 |
| samstav | #link https://github.com/samstav/satori/blob/windows-support/satori/pse.py#L155-L159 | 15:20 |
| samstav | Unless there's anything else to add, I'll go ahead and close | 15:20 |
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| n1ck-o | Thanks a lot samstav, I'm fine, nothing from me, please go ahead and close | 15:21 |
| samstav | n1ck-o, think you can drop in next week? maybe we can collaborate on your submission later this week | 15:21 |
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| samstav | thanks for coming, too | 15:21 |
| n1ck-o | samstav: sure, I should be available next week, I'll block the time in my calendar now | 15:21 |
| samstav | cool | 15:22 |
| samstav | see you then | 15:22 |
| samstav | #endmeeting | 15:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 30 15:22:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:22 |
| n1ck-o | see you then, bye | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/satori/2014/satori.2014-06-30-15.00.html | 15:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/satori/2014/satori.2014-06-30-15.00.txt | 15:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/satori/2014/satori.2014-06-30-15.00.log.html | 15:22 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 30 20:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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| redrobot | Hi everyone, can I get a show of hands for this week's Barbican meeting? | 20:01 |
| atiwari | o/ | 20:01 |
| woodster__ | o/ | 20:01 |
| tsv | o/ | 20:01 |
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| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:02 |
| redrobot | I'll wait a couple of minutes for some more folks to jump on... | 20:02 |
| chellygel | o/ | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | ok, let's get started | 20:03 |
| redrobot | as usual the agenda can be found here: | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | is hockeynut here? I didn't see him raise his hand for roll call? | 20:04 |
| woodster__ | might be Austin bound? | 20:05 |
| redrobot | maybe so... I'll update on his action item | 20:05 |
| redrobot | so, hockeynut was working with the Pecan folks for a good approach for dealing with the default index function | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | which ended up in a change being made upstream to Peacn | 20:06 |
| redrobot | *Pecan | 20:06 |
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| tsv | redrobot, woodster, i saw an update on that CR by Ryan | 20:07 |
| redrobot | we're going to need to update some stuff on Barbican | 20:07 |
| redrobot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/1334872 | 20:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1334872 in barbican "refactor barbican controllers to match pecan recommended approach" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:07 |
| redrobot | the bug was opened to track the changes that will need to be made once Pecan releases their change | 20:07 |
| redrobot | tsv, is the stuff I mentioned accurate? | 20:08 |
| tsv | yes | 20:08 |
| redrobot | ok, good. | 20:08 |
| tsv | redrobot, Ryan said he is planning on releasing pecan 0.6.0 this week | 20:08 |
| redrobot | tsv great, we'll definitely need to keep an eye on that so we can update when it is released | 20:09 |
| redrobot | the other action items were for me | 20:09 |
| redrobot | and I think we'll touch on them on the agenda for today, so let's move along | 20:09 |
| redrobot | #topic Mid-Cycle Meetup | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | So the mid-cycle meetup will be next week. If you haven't had a chance to RSVP, please do so | 20:10 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican/JunoMeetup | 20:10 |
| redrobot | the wiki entry has all the information, including venue, RSVP link, etc | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | also, we have an etherpad to start jotting down topics we want to cover during the meetup | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-juno-meetup | 20:11 |
| redrobot | any questions/comments on the upcoming meetup? | 20:11 |
| rellerreller | I have a question | 20:11 |
| redrobot | rellerreller what's up? | 20:12 |
| rellerreller | The World Cup is going on, and I believe the semi-finals are that week. Are we doing anything for that :) | 20:12 |
| redrobot | rellerreller hehe, we certainly could :) | 20:12 |
| * jvrbanac thinks "Gooaaaallllllll" | 20:12 | |
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| rellerreller | I may be MIA while the games are going on :) | 20:13 |
| atiwari | rellerreller, good question :) | 20:13 |
| woodster__ | do they have big screens at the Geekdom? | 20:13 |
| jraim | they do | 20:13 |
| jraim | we should be able to stream it in | 20:13 |
| jraim | or there are plenty of bars downtown | 20:13 |
| redrobot | I think we could put it up on the projectors... | 20:14 |
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| redrobot | rellerreller you and me both :D | 20:14 |
| atiwari | make sure you guys not adding "Gooaaaallllllll" instead of for loop ;) | 20:15 |
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| redrobot | any other non-fútbol concerns? | 20:15 |
| rellerreller | I'm good | 20:15 |
| redrobot | ok, looking forward to seeing everyone next week. | 20:15 |
| redrobot | let's move on to the next topic | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | #topic Backwards Compatibility for removing tenant id | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | So I think we just need to get on the same page for this one | 20:16 |
| redrobot | atiwari to answer your question in the agenda, I think we decided to go ahead without backwards compatibility | 20:17 |
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| redrobot | I left a comment on the BP with a -1 to remove the Backwards compatibility section | 20:17 |
| atiwari | redrobot, it is not about tenant_id removal | 20:17 |
| tsv | redrobot, thanks. working on cleaning up the spec | 20:17 |
| redrobot | atiwari oh, sorry... I must have confused myself. | 20:17 |
| atiwari | it is about adding more type in order | 20:17 |
| atiwari | resource | 20:17 |
| redrobot | ah, yes.... hmm... that's a good question | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | tsv thanks! I'll vote it up and send an email to the dev list once you get a new patch up | 20:18 |
| rm_work | so, the removal of tenant_id is interesting to me, as I'm *just* implementing the first real function on the admin-api, and I've just gotten it working *with* tenant_id | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | rm_work yes, I think it would be best if you plan on not including a tenant_id in the URI | 20:19 |
| rm_work | can you summarize the timeline for this change/ | 20:19 |
| rm_work | ? | 20:19 |
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| redrobot | rm_work so tsv is working on removing the tenant_ids | 20:19 |
| redrobot | tsv after we get the blueprint approved, about how much effort do you think it would take to get a patch submitted? | 20:20 |
| rm_work | ok, I suppose I will have to refactor based on his work then, once that gets reviewed and merged? | 20:20 |
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| woodster__ | rm_work: removing the tenant-id shouldn't affect the resource work you do (within REST verb methods anyway) | 20:20 |
| tsv | rm_work, redrobot, am working on code changes side by side. should be ready in couple days - by Wednesday | 20:20 |
| jvrbanac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100386/ | 20:20 |
| rm_work | woodster__: well, the admin-api didn't HAVE any of this stuff yet, I had to make some stubs and such and it does relate | 20:20 |
| redrobot | woodster__ yeah, rm_work is pretty much working on an empty app, since the admin side only has the version resource right now. | 20:21 |
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| rm_work | yeah I'll just have to look at the changes tsv makes and do the same thing on the admin side | 20:22 |
| rm_work | that answered my question though, thanks! | 20:22 |
| redrobot | ok, so now, let's move on then | 20:22 |
| redrobot | #topic Backwards compatibility for order resource | 20:22 |
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| atiwari | my vote - just clean it ;) | 20:23 |
| atiwari | redrobot, ^ | 20:23 |
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| redrobot | ok, so now to address atiwari's question about the order resource... is this something we can also use the "not in production yet" card and not worry about it? | 20:24 |
| redrobot | atiwari that's certainly the easier route :) | 20:24 |
| jraim | heat has done some integration work | 20:24 |
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| jraim | I assume they are using the orders resource | 20:24 |
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| woodster__ | and the Johns Hopkins team | 20:24 |
| woodster__ | probably not orders resource though | 20:24 |
| woodster__ | jraim: I think they've only defined resource elements for the APIs, so could be changed without much issue I'd think, but should check with them | 20:25 |
| jraim | woodster__: seems reasonable | 20:25 |
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| atiwari | woodster__, please check and let me know. | 20:26 |
| redrobot | atiwari do you want to check with the heat folks about the change? | 20:26 |
| atiwari | redrobot, any specific person ? | 20:27 |
| atiwari | to reach | 20:27 |
| redrobot | atiwari that answers my question. :) I think that if we also send them a patch with the new order structure, it would be easier than to deal with the old format in Barbican | 20:27 |
| jraim | you can probably reach out to whoever put in the PRs | 20:27 |
| atiwari | ok | 20:28 |
| atiwari | I will check | 20:28 |
| jraim | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98684/ | 20:28 |
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| redrobot | #action atiwari will check with Heat team about changes to the Orders resource. | 20:28 |
| atiwari | jraim, redrobot I will do | 20:29 |
| redrobot | ok, that's all we have in the agenda for today. Does anyone else have any questions/comments they'd like to bring up? | 20:30 |
| redrobot | if not we can go back to watching the Germany game | 20:30 |
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| jvrbanac | I had a question about the spec regarding consuming keystone events | 20:30 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac sorry about that | 20:31 |
| redrobot | I had it in the Agenda and totally missed it | 20:31 |
| redrobot | #topic Blueprint: Keysotne events | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac go ahead | 20:31 |
| jvrbanac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99658/ | 20:31 |
| jvrbanac | It seems like this blueprint/spec really needs to be split up into two different blueprints. One to address how're going to accept Keystone events, and one to deal handling and processing of events. | 20:31 |
| jvrbanac | thoughts? | 20:31 |
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| woodster__ | agreed....there could be different choices for *how* to handle such events, ranging from full deletion as proposed in the blueprint, to a 'softer' approach, such as marking the project as suspended | 20:32 |
| atiwari | jvrbanac, are you thinking about a framework to consume and processing two separate BP | 20:33 |
| atiwari | ? | 20:33 |
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| atiwari | woodster__, we are only talking about soft delete | 20:33 |
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| jvrbanac | atiwari, I think my primary concern is that it feels like we're trying to pack to much into the bp. In reality the method of capturing keystone events is a discrete chunk on it's own | 20:34 |
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| jvrbanac | likewise with the processing of events | 20:35 |
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| atiwari | jvrbanac, I am OK with two BPs | 20:35 |
| atiwari | but can we have two separate CR to address this BP ? | 20:35 |
| atiwari | jvrbanac, ^ | 20:35 |
| atiwari | that way we can make it atomic | 20:36 |
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| atiwari | we can add multiple work items | 20:36 |
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| jvrbanac | atiwari, I think that works. I'm just trying to make sure that we can easily describe where we are going and what it takes to get there. | 20:37 |
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| redrobot | ok, so we're agreeing to keep the BP as is, but split implementation into two separate CRs | 20:38 |
| redrobot | ? | 20:38 |
| atiwari | great | 20:38 |
| atiwari | I will update Arun as he is working on that part | 20:39 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, that should work. | 20:39 |
| redrobot | ok, sounds good guys... | 20:39 |
| woodster__ | CAn I make comments about the restructure CR? | 20:39 |
| woodster__ | Really just to make folks aware of the change in the crypto flows | 20:40 |
| redrobot | #topic Plugin restructure | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | woodster__ go ahead | 20:40 |
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| woodster__ | This is the big restructure Ade, Nathan and I spoke of in Atl | 20:40 |
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| woodster__ | So the framework was already laid last week, but this CR pulls the crypto stuff over: | 20:41 |
| woodster__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103431/ | 20:41 |
| woodster__ | I'm working on a fix to the broken unit test shortly.... | 20:41 |
| woodster__ | Just wanted to make folks aware that it does change where the crypto related stuff lives | 20:41 |
| woodster__ | so we'll start to use the store_secret.py interface that Nathan put together as the 'outer' interface | 20:42 |
| woodster__ | If there are no questions about that, I'll work to fix that CR today for review | 20:42 |
| woodster__ | I think that ends this topic then, thanks! | 20:44 |
| redrobot | alrighty | 20:45 |
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| redrobot | now, we're all out of agenda items | 20:45 |
| redrobot | any more questions/comments? | 20:45 |
| redrobot | ok then, that does it for this week. | 20:47 |
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| redrobot | We probably won't have an IRC meeting next week since we'll all be down at Geekdom for the mid-cycle meetup | 20:47 |
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| redrobot | thanks everyone! | 20:47 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 30 20:47:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-06-30-20.00.html | 20:47 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-06-30-20.00.txt | 20:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-06-30-20.00.log.html | 20:47 |
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