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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 14:00:59 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | who is around for today's meeting? | 14:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | hi | 14:01 |
| n0ano | o/ | 14:01 |
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| PaulMurray | did I just join the scheduler meeting? :) | 14:02 |
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| alaski | o/ | 14:02 |
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| yjiang51 | o/ | 14:02 |
| mriedem | hi | 14:02 |
| n0ano | PaulMurray, nope, this is nova | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Juno-2 is 24th July | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno-2 is 24th July (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yep this is nova | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | same people though, lol | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | :) | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, on to Juno status | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | spec backlog is growing again, lots to review | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | Waiting on Reviewer: 40 | 14:03 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Average wait time: 5 days, 3 hours, 16 minutes | 14:03 |
| bauzas | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-openreviews.html | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, I kinda want to get this down before we call the specs for Juno closed, but lets see how things are looking later | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean nova-specs reviews | 14:03 |
| bauzas | oops, bad copy/paste | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-specs-openreviews.html | 14:04 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i thought spec reviews were done after 7/3 or something? | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, today should be freeze day | 14:04 |
| sgordon | mriedem, new proposals were | 14:04 |
| mriedem | or there are spec reviews, but anything after 7/3 is -2 (spec freeze) unless it's an exceptional case | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, that was no new proposals, although lots of people were thinking the opposite, so something went wrong there | 14:04 |
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| * mriedem admits to not reading all of the process stuff in the ML | 14:05 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/038475.html | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | Jul 3 (-9): Spec proposal freeze | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | Jul 10 (-8): Spec approval freeze | 14:05 |
| bauzas | do we have an Exception process ? | 14:05 |
| bauzas | haven't seen it | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: its the same as normal, shout up on the ML, and in the nova-meeting | 14:05 |
| bauzas | I mean a SpecFreezeException process | 14:05 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ok | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I think we will need to take a look at where we are at tomorrow | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we just haven't kept up in the last week | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and I suspect thats because everyone through the reviews were meant to have stopped already :( | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, it is what it is right now, probably thinking we might approve a few tomorrow, if there are stragglers | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more on blueprint? | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://54.201.139.117/nova-bugs.html | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have some new tools cooking | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am sure tjones would appreciate some feedback | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more on bugs? | 14:09 |
| * johnthetubaguy wonders if his IRC is actually working... | 14:09 | |
| mriedem | no | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Gate Status | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate Status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| mriedem | it's flaky | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | so hows we doing? not well I feel | 14:10 |
| mriedem | getting things in batches | 14:10 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-openapproved.txt | 14:10 |
| mriedem | the postgresql fix is going through the gate now | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | 18 nova patches in the gate queue | 14:10 |
| mriedem | if there are any postgresql experts out there, some questions in here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039800.html | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, good news | 14:10 |
| mriedem | jogo fixed another gate issue yesterday for quotas and fixed ips in nova-network | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: got any top bugs that need urgent volunteers? | 14:11 |
| mriedem | dansmith made some changes in the virt firewall driver that seems to have helped some on the ssh timeouts | 14:11 |
| mriedem | but it's not gone | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: the two big ones, fixed ips over quota and postgresql have fixes | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | so not really atm | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i'm sure we'll eff that up in no time though... | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome, it sounded that way, just double checking | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, true true... | 14:12 |
| mriedem | so nothing else on gate stuff | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | there was talk about making sure certain changes are rechecked several times before approving, what types of changes were those again? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | resize maybe? | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, I guess we are not sure | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #review status | 14:14 |
| mriedem | can't remember | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | Average wait time: 15 days, 8 hours, 33 minutes | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-openreviews.html | 14:14 |
| haypo | hi. is there a gantt meeting here? or is it later? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | lots of very long waiting reviews | 14:14 |
| bauzas | haypo: next week on Tues | 14:14 |
| n0ano | haypo, tues at 1500 UTC | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | haypo: this is the nova meeting, see IRC channel topic name | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, hoping that number gets better next time we check, that is all | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Sub team reports | 14:15 |
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| haypo | ok, thanks ;) | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, people with topics please raise your hands | 14:15 |
| * n0ano o/ | 14:16 | |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: go go scheduler update | 14:16 |
| bauzas | o/ | 14:16 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 14:16 |
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| * bauzas vs. n0ano 0-1 | 14:16 | |
| bauzas | n0ano: up to you :) | 14:17 |
| * n0ano bloody keyboard froze | 14:17 | |
| n0ano | anyway, lots of activity on gantt (scheduler) this week... | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:17 |
| bauzas | that's worth saying that... :) | 14:17 |
| n0ano | concensus seems to be that we want to have a fully functional scheduler after the split (not incremental work) so we have some more work we need to do... | 14:18 |
| haypo | n0ano: i wrote to you privately, tell me when you are able to talk | 14:18 |
| n0ano | biggest addition is dealing with all aspectes of the resource tracker, big idea is to move the RT into the scheduler, so that will get interesting | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: OK, so are there plans for a quick prototype to prove things? | 14:19 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: n0ano: I left a mail in the -dev list about that | 14:19 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, absolutely, bauzas and I are working on creating one | 14:19 |
| n0ano | bauzas, do you want to add anything? | 14:19 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/105747 | 14:19 |
| bauzas | n0ano: yep | 14:19 |
| bauzas | n0ano: lemme just find the link for the -dev thread | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: bauzas: I meant a prototype gantt that fits the suggested client | 14:20 |
| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039863.html | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK | 14:21 |
| bauzas | so, I'm proposing an incremental work for the client | 14:21 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, we want to get 3 things done in nova first (client lib, db isolation, RT) and then we can split off a gantt POC | 14:21 |
| bauzas | n0ano: my mail is about the last step (RT) which needs to be evaluated with regards to the timeline | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, OK | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we could move the RT at a later date, but anyways, lets move on | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: your turn | 14:22 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: feel free to leave a comment in the -dev thread then :) | 14:22 |
| adrian_otto | tx | 14:23 |
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| adrian_otto | COntainers team is organizing to make spec proposals for where containers will fit in OpenStack | 14:23 |
| adrian_otto | initial plans are to use the spec repo template format | 14:23 |
| adrian_otto | should this proceed, even though specs are closed for Juno? | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yep, just need to work out what I want to say | 14:23 |
| adrian_otto | when will they open for K release? | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: not sure when K will open at this point | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: but current template is a good place to start | 14:24 |
| alaski | that's going to be discussed at the mid-cycle | 14:24 |
| adrian_otto | is there somewhere we can submit specs that are likely to need a lot of collaboration that will eventually belong in K? | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | alaski: +1 | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: your own fork of the spec repo might be best at this point, till we get it decided | 14:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: but other may have much better ideas | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/other/others/ | 14:25 |
| adrian_otto | Eric Windisch took an action item to follow up with Mikal for futher guidance as well | 14:25 |
| alaski | adrian_otto: nothing prevents you from submitting a spec for K. it just won't get any attention from core/driver reviewers | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: attend the mid cycle summit is a good bet | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: yeah, it might get a −2 put on it, but yeah, you can put it there | 14:26 |
| adrian_otto | should I just make a specs subfolder named "K"? | 14:26 |
| adrian_otto | next to the juno one? | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: sure, if that works OK for you | 14:26 |
| adrian_otto | ok, next subject... | 14:26 |
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| adrian_otto | on mid-cycle | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | there might be a new spec, etc in K, but yeah, lets just see what works | 14:27 |
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| adrian_otto | do you prefer that containers enthusiast join the Nova mid-cycle meetup in Chicago, or hold another event? | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I have a preference for having containers people talk at the Nova session about nova integration issues | 14:28 |
| adrian_otto | there is a group of about 5 who are committed to attend | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't know about finding your own room, thats a question for intel folks | 14:28 |
| n0ano | adrian_otto, I thought the mid-cycle meetup was in Oregon? | 14:28 |
| adrian_otto | might it make sense for us to add one day just for Containers? Would Intel be open to that sort of a request? | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, good point, we are in Oregon | 14:29 |
| adrian_otto | that way people who are super interested could stay for that, and others could return home | 14:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | which Chicago meet up are you thinking about, is that another group of projects? | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | like ops or something? | 14:29 |
| mriedem | adrian_otto: most nova people probably already have their trips and flights booked | 14:29 |
| adrian_otto | oh, Oregon | 14:29 |
| adrian_otto | sorry to Confuse you with Chicago | 14:30 |
| n0ano | adrian_otto, NP, we have 3 rooms right now (nova, ironic, breakout) containers people can take the break out room or I can reserve a 4th room | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | no worries | 14:30 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, n0ano I will follow up with you, and we can sort that out | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, so n0ano and adrian_otto can sort that out, cools | 14:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | any more? | 14:30 |
| mriedem | maybe we should just stop doing design summits... | 14:30 |
| n0ano | adrian_otto, NP | 14:30 |
| adrian_otto | that's all for my update. Strong attendance in the Containers meetings, and lots of good discussion. | 14:31 |
| adrian_otto | *end update* | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: or do design summits every three months, once with the conference, once without, yeah, duno. | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | adrian_otto: awesome, thanks | 14:31 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: strong +2 here | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | I put my hand up, but nothing really exciting | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | XenAPI CI seems to be keeping up and running, some more improvements communing soon, with a little bit of luck | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing more from me | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: mostly joking | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so there is a note about a nova-client release | 14:32 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:32 |
| mriedem | novaclient release | 14:32 |
| mriedem | mikal hasn't said anything in a week on that | 14:33 |
| mriedem | came up in IRC last week | 14:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, but its getting such a pain with these midcycles, maybe we should club together with the other integrated projects | 14:33 |
| mriedem | i think if nobody objects we should just have russellb do it | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: I am good with you doing that | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | seems like we need that doing | 14:33 |
| russellb | have asked mikal a couple times, no response | 14:33 |
| * russellb shrugs | 14:33 | |
| johnthetubaguy | well anyone against russellb doing a release in here? | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think mikal is locked in a room writing an openstack book, or on a plane on the way to the room, so I duno | 14:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, sounds like we are all for it here | 14:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | if that helps at all | 14:34 |
| russellb | k, will do | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesomeness | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, good news, thats the end of the agenda | 14:35 |
| mriedem | russellb: thanks | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | any thing people want to talk about? | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | there is a ML thread on nova virt driver requirements re: containers | 14:35 |
| mriedem | comes back to the fact we don't have a 'core' virt driver API defined | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | were we going to talk about that at the meetup? | 14:36 |
| dansmith | that was supposed to be a task for this cycle | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: +1 | 14:36 |
| sgordon | johnthetubaguy, mikal isn't at the book sprint | 14:36 |
| dansmith | we talked about doing it in ATL, but nothing has come of it, AFAIK | 14:36 |
| sgordon | johnthetubaguy, could well be in transit tho | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: that was defining the tempest tests every "good" driver should pass, among other things? | 14:37 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: no | 14:37 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: the functions that every supported virt driver must implement | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: OK, you mean the virt driver itself? | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | right | 14:38 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: i.e. "it must support create, destroy, start, stop, resize, etc" | 14:38 |
| mriedem | so i can add it to the meetup etherpad as a topic | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I guess the attach volume is another | 14:38 |
| dansmith | right, those sorts of things | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: thanks, thats a good plan | 14:38 |
| mriedem | i just don't want to see the meetup turn into several 45 min sessions like the design summits | 14:38 |
| russellb | right, and every big topic shouldn't have to wait for in person to make progress | 14:38 |
| mriedem | especially with nova/ironic/containers all being there at the same time | 14:38 |
| dansmith | yeah, that was my concern about having the co-located groups :( | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm true | 14:39 |
| dansmith | then again, I feel like we talked about a lot of things in ATL and nothing came of them, | 14:39 |
| dansmith | so maybe we need design summit MK-II :/ | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | russellb: yeah, i guess we could always vote on a core virt driver api in ML and meetings | 14:39 |
| mriedem | and then expand as needed | 14:39 |
| mriedem | yeah i feel like summit design sessions were mostly unproductive | 14:40 |
| mriedem | but it was my first rodeo | 14:40 |
| russellb | i mean, it will take some work, need to do some good digging around on what various platforms support etc | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: well what is the core list today, (I should read the ML thread)? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | 40 min isn't much | 14:40 |
| russellb | something i'd expect the PTL to drive, honestly | 14:40 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: we don't have one | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: sorry, I meant, what do all virt drivers do today | 14:40 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: the list of things supported by the divers varies widely | 14:40 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039295.html | 14:40 |
| russellb | support matrix wii page is closes we have | 14:40 |
| russellb | closest* | 14:40 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking, we pick a very small set, we map to tempest tests, then we start expanding till people raise their hand, but thats just the first thing that comes into my head | 14:41 |
| dansmith | see, | 14:41 |
| dansmith | I think that's not the way to do it, | 14:42 |
| dansmith | because we wanted to use this to *drive* some of the drivers to implement things they've been punting on | 14:42 |
| russellb | let's please be lighter weight than defcore, heh | 14:42 |
| dansmith | so I'd rather look at what we want to get to, set that as the core and aim for getting there | 14:42 |
| dansmith | like we did for the first round of CI requirements | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: OK, thats a good point, so driver for a consistent API goal? | 14:42 |
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| russellb | dansmith: needs to also be set as a reasonable line we think can be reached by what we want to be able to fit | 14:42 |
| dansmith | (which is another thing we wanted to expand this cycle, which we discused, and which didn't happen) | 14:42 |
| russellb | dansmith: yes :( | 14:43 |
| dansmith | russellb: surely, pause is clearly out of scope forever because: vmware :) | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: +1 | 14:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: right, pause, thats a good one to exclude, and thats probably cool | 14:43 |
| dansmith | yep | 14:43 |
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| dansmith | it's the example we keep coming up with | 14:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | volume attach is the container issue | 14:44 |
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| dansmith | yes | 14:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I guess whats ironic got, pause is bad there too I supose | 14:44 |
| dansmith | and I really don't think we can exclude volumes, so we need some sort of tiered approach I guess, | 14:44 |
| dansmith | to exclude volumes for containers, or require/allow them to host-mount them or something | 14:44 |
| adrian_otto | johnthetubaguy: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/tests/compute/test_nova.py | 14:44 |
| dansmith | and ironic is a problem, yeah | 14:44 |
| adrian_otto | to pass you just need to attach and snapshot | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, I think we need a "relatively" consistent storage model | 14:44 |
| russellb | there has been good volume progress on the docker side btw | 14:45 |
| adrian_otto | unless there is a func test somewhere that shells in to a guest do a mount | 14:45 |
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| russellb | there has been work to get it supported in docker itself | 14:45 |
| dansmith | russellb: yeah, but still requires the host to mount them, AFAIK | 14:45 |
| russellb | not my understanding | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: awesome, dansmith: that sure validates your approach | 14:45 |
| adrian_otto | russellb: yes, but those efforts need to be balanced with security concerns that are rooted in Linux kernel implementation of CAP | 14:45 |
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| russellb | thought they were looking at exposing block devices to the container *shrug* | 14:45 |
| russellb | adrian_otto: *nods* | 14:46 |
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| russellb | hasn't been accepted into docker yet anyway | 14:46 |
| dansmith | russellb: yeah, not sure that can be done, by my understanding | 14:46 |
| dansmith | but anyway | 14:46 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yes, this is why we shoot for what we want, not what we have :) | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yes, makes total sense now, agreed | 14:46 |
| russellb | but of course, these discussions are just wasted time unless someone takes it and runs with it | 14:47 |
| dansmith | yar | 14:47 |
| russellb | and i don't have the time for stuff like this this cycle | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was just going to ask | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone able to take this? | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wish I could, but its not happening right now | 14:47 |
| dansmith | not like I have time either, but if nobody else will, | 14:47 |
| dansmith | I guess I'll try to own the virt driver requirements thing | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I am happy to validate a list from a XenServer side | 14:48 |
| dansmith | we'll see how far I get before I ignore it too long and we have to find another owner :P | 14:48 |
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| dansmith | but, I'll try to have a proposed list and/or discussion points for the mid-cycle | 14:49 |
| dansmith | I'll do that on the plane | 14:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: awesome, we the meeting attendees, hand you the time bounded mutex of leadership on the virt driver interface | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sounds like a good plan | 14:49 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: do I get a certificate or trophy for that? | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think we need to get people to own all the suggested topics | 14:50 |
| * dansmith imagines a trophy shaped like a steaming turd | 14:50 | |
| russellb | on the plane, huh? | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: sure some sort of beer like thing | 14:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I hear I can't use my laptop on the plane, else I can't get through security again, or something | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, that was a good topic | 14:51 |
| russellb | lol. | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more of those, or should we stop? | 14:51 |
| russellb | can't turn on? must be a bomb | 14:51 |
| russellb | i'm sure we could think of plenty of big things we've talked about but aren't making a lot of progress on :) | 14:51 |
| dansmith | I need to run anyway | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: quite, one way to force people to repair the batteries | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: agreed | 14:51 |
| adrian_otto | Exide cheers. | 14:51 |
| russellb | what to do with cells ... what we're doing with v3/v2.1 ... | 14:51 |
| russellb | what we're doing to improve CI ... | 14:52 |
| * johnthetubaguy general sigh noises | 14:52 | |
| russellb | yup, heh | 14:52 |
| dansmith | oye | 14:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I will start making a list in the meeting thing | 14:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | bye all | 14:52 |
| russellb | o/ | 14:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks for comming | 14:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 14:53:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-07-10-14.00.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-07-10-14.00.txt | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-07-10-14.00.log.html | 14:53 |
| bauzas | bye | 14:53 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 15:02:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:02 |
| bswartz | good morning/afternoon/evening | 15:02 |
| tbarron | guten tag | 15:02 |
| deepakcs | Hi all | 15:02 |
| shamail | Hi everyone. | 15:02 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:02 |
| scottda | Hi | 15:02 |
| dustins | o/ | 15:02 |
| rraja | hi | 15:02 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:02 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:03 |
| bswartz | fairly short agenda today | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | I don't have anything specific | 15:03 |
| bswartz | I had a relaxing week off last week and I hope that those of you in the USA also did | 15:04 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dev status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: you're up first | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | Ok, dev status: | 15:04 |
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| vponomaryov | 1) Manilaclient now supports python3.3 version and has caching of tokens | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/cache-auth-token | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | status: implemented | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | 2) Manila migrated from to oslo.messaging from oslo-incubator common code | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/oslo-messaging | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | status: implemented. | 15:05 |
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| vponomaryov | 3) share-server-delete API | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/add-admin-api-delete-share-server | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103911/ | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | status: review in progress | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | 4) oslo.db | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/oslo.db | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress, no gerrit commit yet. | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | 5) Usage of common code in Manila | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/use-common-code | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | status: several changes has been merged, there are still field for work. | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | 6) py33 compatibility for Manila | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/py3-compatibility | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | status: several changes has been merged, there are still field for work. | 15:06 |
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| vponomaryov | 7) pep rules | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | lp bug: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1333290 | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | status: some changes has already been merged, lots of other on review | 15:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1333290 in manila "pep8 tests has a lot of disabled rules" [Medium,In progress] | 15:06 |
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| vponomaryov | That's all for status | 15:07 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:07 |
| bswartz | I think the next agenda item covers what I want to say about these | 15:07 |
| bswartz | anyone have any questions about these bugs/bps? | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | okay next | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic add-admin-api-list-shares-for-share-server | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/add-admin-api-list-shares-for-share-server | 15:09 |
| bswartz | - do we need it? (Can be useful for admins) | 15:09 |
| bswartz | - if yes, should it be separated API? (Restriction - policy rules are different according to already existing API 'list') | 15:09 |
| bswartz | - if yes, what name should be used for this API? | 15:09 |
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| bswartz | so we can have an optional, admin-only argument to share-create which addresses this use case, can't we? | 15:10 |
| xyang1 | what can we get today without this? A list of all shares, right? | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | err share-list | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: list of shares without filtering by share server id | 15:10 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: it can be list of tenant shares or all tenants | 15:11 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: thanks. so this can be useful | 15:11 |
| bswartz | ameade had an example for how to create policies for specific arguments of an API | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | we don't always need whole new APIs for admin-only stuff | 15:11 |
| shamail | I think its a useful one, the admin-only argument addition to shares-list sounds like a good landing spot. | 15:11 |
| bswartz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/filter-shares-list-by-share-server | 15:12 |
| bswartz | that's what ameade wrote up | 15:12 |
| bswartz | any reason we can't do something like this? | 15:12 |
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| xyang1 | looks reasonable | 15:13 |
| dustins | It seems easy enough to add | 15:13 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: having more than one policy for one API call is not obvious | 15:13 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: perhaps, but can't we document the sample policy.json to make it obvious? | 15:14 |
| shamail | Does it make sense to list all shares by share server? I might be reading the write up wrong but it looks like you need to specify share server the way it's currently documented? | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | and seriously, how often do people really edit policy.json? | 15:14 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: what do you mean more than 1 policy | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | I assume that 90% of people use the default and the other 10% make very few modifications | 15:14 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: list_shares_by_share_server only has 1 policy here? | 15:15 |
| ameade | policies aren't usually 1 to 1 with api resources | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: user side | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | xyang1: one CLI command will have two policies in that case | 15:15 |
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| xyang1 | vponomaryov: I see | 15:16 |
| ameade | vponomaryov: do you mean admin side? user has no idea there are even policies | 15:16 |
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| ameade | only the deployer would care | 15:16 |
| vponomaryov | ameade: yes, user has no idea, but will get 403 with this option and 200 without it | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | I think it's not unusual to have an API with admin-only arguments -- the only way to achieve that is with 2 policies for that API | 15:17 |
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| ameade | why would a user even know about the option if they can't do it? | 15:17 |
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| ameade | and there is no harm saying "sorry, you dont have permission to perform this operation" | 15:17 |
| vponomaryov | so, everyone agreed that this API should be implemented? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | +1 | 15:17 |
| rraja | +1 | 15:18 |
| shamail | +1 | 15:18 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: what about having the same API, but make the CLI look different so that it is obvious to user? | 15:18 |
| ameade | just to be clear, we are saying to not add a new API resource for this right? | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | ameade: good point -- I think we're agreeing NOT to add a new API and we agreeing to add a new policy to the existing API | 15:19 |
| xyang1 | vponomaryov: one is share-list, the other one something like share-list-by-share-server? | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | ameade, bswartz: exactly - API method, share list does not have share-server list for now | 15:20 |
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| vponomaryov | s/share-server/share-server in/ | 15:20 |
| bswartz | xyang1: I don't see a need for an extra CLI | 15:20 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang1: this one I prefer that new option | 15:20 |
| bswartz | I guess there is one question | 15:21 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: trying to address vponomaryov's concern on different policies | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | can we make the builtin help for the CLI show different options for admins and non-admins? | 15:21 |
| bswartz | ideally tenants wouldn't see the option at all | 15:21 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: why? | 15:21 |
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| xyang1 | bswartz: make the "help" clear is helpful too | 15:22 |
| bswartz | if it's an admin-only option, tenants should not see it | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: only if not implemented via horizon | 15:22 |
| bswartz | only admins should see it | 15:22 |
| bswartz | can't python-manilaclient show different help depending on the access of the person running it? | 15:22 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: can not | 15:22 |
| bswartz | DOH! | 15:23 |
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| bswartz | I'd like to fix that | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: client does know nothing about access | 15:23 |
| bswartz | hmm | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: only request and return of answer | 15:23 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, dumb Q maybe... share-list can print the share-server column for admin only, isn't that enuf ? | 15:23 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, I mean by default it will print always | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: there no share server in list | 15:24 |
| ameade | deepakcs: there is no guarantee since someone could set the policy so that anyone can do it | 15:24 |
| bswartz | yeah | 15:24 |
| ameade | this is just a nice optimization | 15:24 |
| bswartz | okay then perhaps a separate CLI is a good idea | 15:24 |
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| bswartz | but no separate API | 15:24 |
| ameade | i dont think there is anything wrong with having a --share-server option in the CLI | 15:24 |
| ameade | and it just says"sorry, you dont have permission to perform this operation" | 15:25 |
| bswartz | it would be nice if python-manilaclient could obtain the policy from the server and modify the help accordingly but that's probably a lot of work for little gain | 15:25 |
| cknight | ameade: agreed | 15:25 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, there is no share server in list today, but the CLI will print share server also in the shares-list output if it being done by admin (without any new --share-server) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: can we move on? | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: idea in filtering | 15:26 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: yes, but we did not make decision | 15:27 |
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| deepakcs | vponomaryov, admin can do shares-list | grep <share server> | 15:27 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: that was what I was asking | 15:27 |
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| bswartz | I thought we decided | 15:27 |
| bswartz | what is still unclear | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | deepakcs: grep is Ok for user, but we can minimize body of response | 15:28 |
| deepakcs | vponomaryov, ok | 15:28 |
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| vponomaryov | deepakcs: and it is not for for server in that case | 15:28 |
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| vponomaryov | s/not for for/not ok for/ | 15:28 |
| vponomaryov | ok, lets move on | 15:28 |
| deepakcs | ok | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | vponomaryov: you understand what we agreed to? | 15:29 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: did we agree? | 15:29 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:29 |
| bswartz | so here I was my understanding is | 15:30 |
| bswartz | 1) we will NOT add a new API | 15:30 |
| bswartz | 2) we will add an optional share-server argument to the share-list API | 15:30 |
| bswartz | 3) we will add a second policy so that argument defaults to admin-only | 15:30 |
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| bswartz | how we handle the CLI is still unclear | 15:31 |
| bswartz | but I thought we agreed on the server side API | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:32 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: ok | 15:32 |
| bswartz | #topic Tempest tests for python-manilaclient | 15:32 |
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| bswartz | dustins: you're up | 15:32 |
| dustins | Alright, so I was looking at the tempest tests for the manila client and saw that they only covered simple read only tests | 15:33 |
| dustins | Same as all other python-*clients | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:34 |
| dustins | I was wondering if there was a reason, other than scope, why we couldn't add more robust and thorough tests to test more than the read only operations | 15:34 |
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| dustins | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/field_guide/cli.html | 15:34 |
| bswartz | dustins: seems like that would duplicate a lot of testing | 15:34 |
| dustins | bswartz: How so? There are currently no CLI tests for the clients for anything other than read-only ops | 15:35 |
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| dustins | Sure, it'd just exercise the code that is already tested through the API, but we should be making sure the client talks to the API correctly | 15:36 |
| bswartz | well 90% of any CLI test is testing that the server-side API worked properly | 15:36 |
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| bswartz | unless we use some kind of fake server | 15:36 |
| scottda | One stated goal from the docs link is not to modify the cloud. So that would limit things to read-only | 15:36 |
| bswartz | and we have tests that test the APIs directly | 15:36 |
| dustins | Fair enough, I can get behind that | 15:36 |
| bswartz | I'm not saying it's not worth doing, but we'd end up testing a lot of things twice | 15:37 |
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| dustins | right, and currently no one else is doing it either and it doesn't seem like there's going to be an effort to add it | 15:37 |
| dustins | Probably because of that doubling of effort | 15:37 |
| bswartz | the risk we're exposing ourselves to by not testing this stuff is that non-read-only operations in the CLI could end up sending the wrong API to the server or interpretting the results incorrectly | 15:38 |
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| vponomaryov | dustins: actually there one two layers in client - python code and shell code | 15:38 |
| dustins | Exactly, but it seems like the other projects also take that risk, so we're not the first or last | 15:39 |
| bswartz | in an ideal world we would cover these cases but I think we have higher priority testing issues | 15:39 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Right the CLI and the client itself, yeah? | 15:39 |
| vponomaryov | dustins: yes | 15:39 |
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| cknight | vponomaryov: the client unit tests appear to cover the python code, but not the shell layer. | 15:39 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: we were just wondering if that was in scope | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: it covers shell too | 15:40 |
| bswartz | cknight: now you're talking about unit tests not tempest tests, right? | 15:40 |
| cknight | bswartz: yes | 15:40 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: not all, maybe, but covers | 15:41 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: ok, found it, thanks | 15:41 |
| bswartz | if we had GOOD unit tests coverage of the CLI that would make me feel safer about having poor functional coverage | 15:41 |
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| cknight | bswartz: if the goal is not to test stuff twice, the unit testing in the CLI layers can accomplish that | 15:42 |
| dustins | bswartz: and good functional coverage of the underlying API :) | 15:42 |
| bswartz | I'm not against testing stuff twice unless it's really expensive | 15:42 |
| cknight | bswartz: it's just that there isn't any thorough end-to-end functional test of the CLI in tempest, which was our question. | 15:43 |
| bswartz | my point was that this seems low priority relative to more complete API tests | 15:43 |
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| cknight | bswartz: fair enough | 15:43 |
| vponomaryov | cknight: this question is more to tempest-related meeting | 15:43 |
| bswartz | cknight: I think you're right, and the rest of Openstack has the same flaw, so we won't rock the boat | 15:43 |
| dustins | vponomaryov: Fair point | 15:43 |
| cknight | vponomaryov: well, we're adding things to manila client now and wanted to get it right | 15:44 |
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| bswartz | dustins: you satisfied? | 15:44 |
| dustins | bswartz: yup! | 15:44 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:44 |
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| vponomaryov | cknight: good unittests can help very well | 15:45 |
| bswartz | anyone have something else to discusss? | 15:45 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: I can't remember if you had something to discuss today, based on our earlier conversation | 15:45 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: I don't have anything else to report. we are still waiting for legal | 15:46 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: on driver contribution | 15:46 |
| bswartz | okay if that's all, please remember to do code reviews | 15:46 |
| bswartz | I'm doing my part, but I'm slow :-( | 15:46 |
| bswartz | we have several changes that could benefit from some reviews | 15:46 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/manila+status:open,n,z | 15:47 |
| bswartz | okay I think that's it | 15:47 |
| bswartz | thanks everyone | 15:47 |
| xyang1 | thanks | 15:47 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: jfyi: gerrit commit with share-server-delete API has db method required for update of 'list' API | 15:47 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, any update on the incubation ? | 15:47 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 15:47:57 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-07-10-15.02.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-07-10-15.02.txt | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-07-10-15.02.log.html | 15:48 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103911/ | 15:48 |
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| vkozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 16:00:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vkozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| vkozhukalov | hey everyone | 16:00 |
| aglarendil | hey | 16:00 |
| mihgen | hi | 16:00 |
| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:00 |
| AndreyDanin | hi | 16:00 |
| xarses | hi doctor bob | 16:00 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic Greetings, announcements | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, announcements (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| evgeniyl | hi | 16:00 |
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| vkozhukalov | as usual agenda is here | 16:00 |
| asledzinskiy | hi | 16:00 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
| brain461 | hello | 16:01 |
| alex_didenko | hi | 16:01 |
| mihgen | Ok let me provide short status | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic feature freeze status | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "feature freeze status (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| vkozhukalov | #chair vkozhukalov | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: vkozhukalov | 16:01 |
| mihgen | Feature Freeze was moved by one week and it's planned for today | 16:01 |
| mihgen | well it is still planned for today :) | 16:02 |
| mihgen | as far as I can tell we are not in ideal state, but in pretty good one | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | first of all, I can say that Fuel CI now verifies patches correctly for ~10 hours already | 16:02 |
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| mihgen | for FF date, we will need to make a few exceptions | 16:02 |
| mattymo | +1 for working CI. It's great. | 16:03 |
| mihgen | Those which I'm aware of: ML2, Mellanox | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | will talk about it more later during the meeting | 16:03 |
| vkozhukalov | mihgen: ok | 16:03 |
| mihgen | let me know if we have anything else to request exceptions for | 16:03 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: that's short update from me | 16:04 |
| vkozhukalov | moving topic to 5.0.1? | 16:04 |
| mihgen | yep | 16:04 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic 5.0.1 release status | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "5.0.1 release status (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:04 | |
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| angdraug | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+milestone/5.0.1 | 16:04 |
| angdraug | 5.0.1 is mostly ready for code freeze | 16:04 |
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| angdraug | we're still waiting for a few bugs: | 16:04 |
| angdraug | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/856764 | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 856764 in oslo.messaging "RabbitMQ connections lack heartbeat or TCP keepalives" [Critical,In progress] | 16:05 |
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| angdraug | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1319451 | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1319451 in fuel/5.1.x "AMQP Channel errors in orchestrator logs" [High,In progress] | 16:05 |
| angdraug | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1339236 | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1339236 in fuel/5.1.x "DockerUpgrader: failed to upgrade: Failed to run services" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:05 |
| angdraug | mihgen: ^ is Medium priority, but you mentioned that it must be fixed, can you clarify? | 16:05 |
| mihgen | 764 is painful thing, though it doesn't always break stuff | 16:05 |
| angdraug | as you can see at the milestone link above, there's a couple High priority New bugs | 16:06 |
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| mihgen | evgeniyl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1339236 doesn't look like Medium to me | 16:06 |
| mihgen | it's rather critical | 16:06 |
| angdraug | fix for 764 is in testing since a few hours ago, no? | 16:06 |
| mihgen | as far as I understand it fails upgrade procedure pretty often | 16:06 |
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| angdraug | upped 236 to Critical | 16:06 |
| evgeniyl | Yes, it has medium priority because it affects specific tarball | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | I'm making a call to wait fix for #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/856764 | 16:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 856764 in oslo.messaging "RabbitMQ connections lack heartbeat or TCP keepalives" [Critical,In progress] | 16:07 |
| mihgen | I'd like HA to be better. As far as I know fix is under testing now | 16:08 |
| angdraug | anyone can update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338573 ? | 16:08 |
| akasatkin | evgeniyl: reproduced on 112 tarball | 16:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1338573 in fuel/5.1.x "Incorrect status of progress bar on Ubuntu" [High,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
| angdraug | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1340237 ? | 16:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1340237 in fuel "Execution of '/usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold --force-yes install iptables-persistent=0.5.3ubuntu2' returned 100" [High,New] | 16:08 |
| evgeniyl | akasatkin: could you please provide env? | 16:08 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: also I'm wondering if #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1323277 could be anyhow fixed in 5.0.1 ? | 16:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1323277 in fuel "vip__management recovered with error" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
| evgeniyl | akasatkin: I would like to check if it is the same issue | 16:08 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl: akasatkin let's keep as critical then before we find out | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: 277 is related to rabbitmq ocf script | 16:09 |
| aglarendil | there is no way to fix it in 5.0.1 completely | 16:09 |
| mihgen | :( | 16:09 |
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| aglarendil | but oslo.messaging may help a lot | 16:09 |
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| mihgen | ok it must go to release notes then.. | 16:09 |
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| akasatkin | evgeniyl: 172.18.194.24 : 5599 | 16:10 |
| mihgen | angdraug: I think #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1338573 is not that important and we could ignore it for 5.0.1 | 16:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1338573 in fuel/5.1.x "Incorrect status of progress bar on Ubuntu" [High,Confirmed] | 16:10 |
| vkozhukalov | what is the expectation about date of 5.0.1? | 16:10 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: July 15th | 16:11 |
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| angdraug | not sure abotu 573, a very in-your-face problem | 16:11 |
| mihgen | it may change if we are stuck with 856764 | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | I faced 573 many times | 16:11 |
| aglarendil | and facing it right now | 16:11 |
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| aglarendil | progress bar is hanging until the reload | 16:11 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: did you guys manage to reproduce the issue? ^^ | 16:12 |
| mihgen | let's move on folks, take this topic out of here unless angdraug has more info | 16:12 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic Features | 16:12 |
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| mihgen | too many things to discuss still, sorry | 16:13 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Zabbix status | 16:13 |
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| vkramskikh | mihgen: we didn't unfortunately :( | 16:13 |
| akislitsky | Zabbix is tested on custom ISO in HA and multi-node modes | 16:13 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: you may need real deployments | 16:13 |
| akislitsky | now it is merged into master | 16:13 |
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| mihgen | akislitsky: all merged? | 16:13 |
| akislitsky | mihgen, all | 16:14 |
| vkozhukalov | great | 16:14 |
| mihgen | excellent | 16:14 |
| mihgen | any critical bugs you aware of ? | 16:14 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Install OpenStack from upstream | 16:14 |
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| vkozhukalov | brain461 around? | 16:14 |
| brain461 | yes, but there's still question to akislitsky | 16:15 |
| akislitsky | i have seen problems with nova networks and may be zabbix specific errors will be found in QA cycle | 16:15 |
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| akislitsky | i guess nova will be fixed in library in short time | 16:15 |
| mihgen | no worries if someone not replied, those can put "?" here to request for waiting | 16:15 |
| mihgen | akislitsky: ok, thanks | 16:16 |
| vkozhukalov | brain461: go ahead | 16:16 |
| brain461 | rpm building code is merged into master | 16:16 |
| brain461 | according to devops, public gerrit is setup, so this unblocks the whole migration process | 16:16 |
| brain461 | we prepared the repository with build dependencies for components from master | 16:16 |
| brain461 | we prepared specs that could be built against the current master for most of the openstack components, but some of them are still on review | 16:16 |
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| mihgen | brain461: very good. Do you have any architecture / specs / slides for the setup? | 16:17 |
| mihgen | so we could get more info on how it's gonna be implemented and work all together | 16:17 |
| brain461 | tomorrow on demo I'll be demonstrating the build process | 16:17 |
| brain461 | specs are merged into fuel-specs, btw | 16:18 |
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| mihgen | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/68/101868/3/check/gate-fuel-specs-docs/74f9fd7/doc/build/html/specs/5.1/openstack-from-master.html ? | 16:18 |
| mihgen | sorry I was on vacation and didn't have a chance to look into :) will do | 16:19 |
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| mihgen | ok brain461 thanks | 16:19 |
| vkozhukalov | moving | 16:19 |
| angdraug | spec looks very short ( | 16:19 |
| mihgen | no more questions from me | 16:19 |
| vkozhukalov | thanks brain461 | 16:19 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic ML2 | 16:19 |
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| mihgen | +1 to angdraug … expected to see some diagrams | 16:19 |
| mihgen | will provide my feedback later | 16:20 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: xarses you go folks | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | so. | 16:20 |
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| aglarendil | we had a meeting today with xarses and mihgen | 16:20 |
| mihgen | yep results are in openstack-dev mailing list | 16:20 |
| aglarendil | and we decided to merge xenologs implementation right now | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | to unblock other teams | 16:21 |
| mihgen | is it merged or not yet?) | 16:21 |
| angdraug | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039851.html | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | I am waiting for the final test result | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | and we will do extensive tests for Andrew's request | 16:21 |
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| aglarendil | if it passes the test, we will rebase it and merge | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | along with rebase of Mlnx and NSX features | 16:22 |
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| mihgen | I know that xenolog did some patches to xarses's request | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | for this purpose we decided to extend FF a little bit for these particular features | 16:22 |
| mihgen | while he was sleeping in PST | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | yep, he posted some stuff into change requests | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | but he is offline now | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | so, the ball goes to xarses again | 16:23 |
| mihgen | xarses: are you aware of that? what's the status? | 16:23 |
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| angdraug | he's already posted another patchset on top of xenolog's changes, so probably aware | 16:23 |
| xarses | mihgen: yes, I've spoken with xenolog, the last changed failed due to missed coma, and its back up for testing | 16:23 |
| mihgen | should be just minor fixes from xenolog, he did not have much time today.. | 16:23 |
| mihgen | ok | 16:23 |
| xarses | I've almost finished rebuilding my test env with the 307 iso | 16:24 |
| xarses | and will start retesting locally | 16:24 |
| mihgen | so I hope it will be tested more or less by EOD on Monday MSK | 16:24 |
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| mihgen | and we will merge it after that, so extending FF for this ML2 implementation | 16:24 |
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| mihgen | any more stuff on this topic? | 16:24 |
| xarses | I didn't see mail about test plan | 16:24 |
| xarses | did I miss it? | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | it's in ML2 blueprints thread | 16:25 |
| xarses | ok | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | on openstack-dev | 16:25 |
| angdraug | I've posted link above | 16:25 |
| mihgen | nurla: can we have test plan for ML2 ? | 16:25 |
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| mihgen | to test xarses implementation? | 16:25 |
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| nurla | mihgen: no, we actually should check regression | 16:26 |
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| mihgen | nurla: we need more than just regression I think. We need to play with params, should not use defaults | 16:26 |
| mihgen | and then make sure all IP ranges, etc. propagated properly | 16:27 |
| mihgen | regression may appear in random place | 16:27 |
| mihgen | even for regression, we need a plan so we can all follow to test xarses ISO once it's ready | 16:27 |
| mihgen | can you please prepare one for us? | 16:27 |
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| nurla | for xenolog patch i sure our checks that we already have more enough | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | moving on? | 16:29 |
| vkozhukalov | moving | 16:29 |
| mihgen | nurla: I'm not about xenolog patch, ok will follow up on what we need | 16:29 |
| nurla | ok, for xarser iso we'll create testplan | 16:29 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: let's move onn | 16:29 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic VMware | 16:29 |
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| AndreyDanin | ? | 16:29 |
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| AndreyDanin | NSX+KVM | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | blueprint #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/neutron-nsx-plugin-integration | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | fuel-web part #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105438/ has two +1 and ready to merge | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | fuel-library part #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86329 has -1 related to ML2 | 16:30 |
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| AndreyDanin | vCenter features | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | blueprint #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/vcenter-hv-full-scale-support | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | VMDK support | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | fuel-library part #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104942/ merged | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | fuel-web part #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104944/ merged | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | HA support #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104130/ merged | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | multi cluster support | 16:30 |
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| AndreyDanin | fuel-library part #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104197/ has one +1 and -1 from CI | 16:30 |
| AndreyDanin | fuel-web part #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104927/ merged | 16:30 |
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| angdraug | +100500 for preparing a paste in advance! | 16:30 |
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| mihgen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105438/ akasatkin, evgeniyl can we merge? | 16:30 |
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| mihgen | thanks AndreyDanin | 16:31 |
| mihgen | how much is it all ready to go? | 16:31 |
| mihgen | any tested by anyone? | 16:31 |
| mihgen | As far as I know we merged a lot of VMWare stuff today once master was fixed | 16:32 |
| AndreyDanin | we tested it by hands | 16:32 |
| akasatkin | mihgen: looks good. but didn't test it | 16:32 |
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| mihgen | AndreyDanin: -1 from CI in multi-cluster - should be on your side or we just need to retrigger | 16:32 |
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| mihgen | Fuel CI should show correct results today | 16:32 |
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| AndreyDanin | We have got 6 servers and going to setup a test lab. | 16:33 |
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| mihgen | so we need to decide what to do with FF for multi cluster support | 16:33 |
| mihgen | how much time do we need to finish with merging this stuff? | 16:33 |
| aglarendil | I would give it a chance | 16:33 |
| aglarendil | until the end of week | 16:34 |
| aglarendil | this should be some easy fix | 16:34 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: ok.. what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86329 ? | 16:34 |
| mihgen | how time will it need after ML2 is introduced? | 16:34 |
| aglarendil | hmmmm... anyway as we are going to give xarses' ML2 a chance | 16:35 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: how both things are isolated, i.e. how is it risky to merge for core features? | 16:35 |
| aglarendil | let's give it to ML2 implementation | 16:35 |
| aglarendil | also, NSX is isolated and should not affect master | 16:35 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: but after xenolog's code, it should work, right? | 16:35 |
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| mihgen | so AndreyDanin can rely on xenolog's code for now? | 16:35 |
| aglarendil | ML2+NSX will require a couple additional days | 16:35 |
| mihgen | and then rebase? Or what's the plan? | 16:35 |
| aglarendil | yep, changes for NSX +ML2 should be similar for xenolog's and xarses' code | 16:35 |
| AndreyDanin | mihgen: I didn’t test it with xenolog code. | 16:35 |
| xarses | aglarendil: if NSX+ML2 enters from /etc/astute.yaml quantum_settings L2 settings then there will not need to be any code change between the two | 16:36 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: xarses If you guys see it's pretty well isolated, we could give an exception for these almost ready stuff up until next Th, but no later | 16:36 |
| AndreyDanin | mihgen: I need day or two to rebase to check xenolog/xarses code, make fix and test it | 16:37 |
| mihgen | I mean NSX + ML2 & multi cluster support | 16:37 |
| aglarendil | anyway, we are waiting for MLNx guys until Thursday. | 16:37 |
| aglarendil | so I would give it a try | 16:37 |
| mihgen | it doesn't make a sense to make exception for all, then it would mean slipping the date. But a few isolated small things are fine | 16:38 |
| aglarendil | I agree | 16:38 |
| mihgen | xarses, angdraug: are you agree on NSX + ML2 & muleticluster ? | 16:38 |
| angdraug | I agree | 16:39 |
| xarses | yes | 16:39 |
| aglarendil | we have the majority features to be merged in 24 hours, so, I would feel ok with simple isolated features to be slipeed a little bit | 16:39 |
| mihgen | ok, cool. thanks. Let's move on | 16:39 |
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| vkozhukalov | seems like we are done on this topic | 16:40 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Mellanox | 16:40 |
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| vkozhukalov | AndreyDanin: do you have any info about this activity? | 16:40 |
| vkozhukalov | if not let's pass this topic | 16:40 |
| AndreyDanin | Are there any guys from Mellanox? | 16:40 |
| vkozhukalov | and move on | 16:41 |
| xarses | I was speaking with aviramb yesterday | 16:41 |
| AndreyDanin | It seems I have nothing to share. | 16:41 |
| aglarendil | I think Dmitry Ilyin can provide some update | 16:41 |
| vkozhukalov | looks like there are no mellanox guys | 16:41 |
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| xarses | they will fix their entrypoint into ML2 | 16:41 |
| aglarendil | I'll call him | 16:41 |
| mihgen | they are waiting also for qemu 2.0 | 16:41 |
| dilyin | yes, i'm here | 16:41 |
| xarses | which will allow them to use either puppet module | 16:42 |
| aglarendil | dilyin: you have just had a call with Mellanox guys | 16:42 |
| aglarendil | dilyin: could you provide a short update on the status of Mellanox code ? | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | meanwhile angdraug what about documentation for upgrade 5.0 -> 5.0.1 ? | 16:42 |
| mihgen | are you aware of the status on this? | 16:43 |
| mihgen | dilyin: I assume you are typing meanwhile.. | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: let's move on | 16:43 |
| mihgen | we don't have much time | 16:44 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic OpenStack patching | 16:44 |
| angdraug | documentation for upgrade is in progress, there's a review out | 16:44 |
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| mihgen | folks be prepared in advance for staus | 16:44 |
| mihgen | angdraug: ok thanks | 16:44 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/105324 | 16:44 |
| angdraug | reviews are appreciated | 16:44 |
| dilyin | the Puppet part of the code is mostly ready. at least I have refactored all bad styles and not it's passing our CI without mellanox part enabled. I have not tested deployment with mellanox enabled yet | 16:44 |
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| mihgen | dilyin: ok sound very good, thanks. | 16:45 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: are you here for status on patching? | 16:45 |
| vkozhukalov | ikalnitsky: around? | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky | yep, i'm here | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky | ok, it looks like openstack patching works fine. we have two known bugs and both are not critical, as for me. | 16:45 |
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| ikalnitsky | the first one is related to node status which doesn't marked as error when update fails | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1332494 | 16:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1332494 in fuel "[Updates] Nodes do not marked by error status when update fails" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky | the second is related to our openstack init scripts which in some cases may lead to the situation when update process hangs (i mentioned it in previous demo) | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1333292 | 16:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1333292 in fuel "nova-api hangs during openstack updating" [Critical,In progress] | 16:45 |
| ikalnitsky | the fix is already done and has been tested by qa, but it still doesn't merged. | 16:46 |
| mihgen | On Mellanox, there are a lot of things to do still, and in agreement FF is extended for them by next Th | 16:46 |
| ikalnitsky | and that's it :) | 16:46 |
| mihgen | ikalnitsky: very good | 16:46 |
| mihgen | nurla: can you confirm QA side of it? | 16:46 |
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| mihgen | are there any publicly available test cases for this feature? | 16:47 |
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| ikalnitsky | mihgen: Tatiana Leontovich is responsible for testig this feature. Unfortunately, she is ooo today. | 16:47 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Sustaining features: galera, rabbitmq, pacemaker improvements, manifests merge | 16:48 |
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| nurla | nurla: i can confirm, we already have cases and check all important reviewa | 16:48 |
| vkozhukalov | guys we have just several minutes | 16:48 |
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| vkozhukalov | aglarendil: you were going to give some details on that topic | 16:49 |
| mihgen | nurla: so what about test cases? | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | so, we finally merged ha related blueprints | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | with rabbitmq and galera improvements | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | they have some bugs | 16:49 |
| mihgen | wait | 16:49 |
| mihgen | is galera there? | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | I meant galera ocf script | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | I thought we reverted it | 16:49 |
| mihgen | oh ok, so new package is not in master yet | 16:49 |
| aglarendil | I am going to merge these modifications tomorrow | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | with all the newer packages and xtrabackup and so on | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | this will allow us to make deployment of controllers in parallel | 16:50 |
| mihgen | aglarendil: what's the status on testing of it? | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | which part? | 16:50 |
| aglarendil | xtrabackup? | 16:50 |
| mihgen | galera packages | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | and xtracackup | 16:50 |
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| aglarendil | we will see tomorrow, I tested it and it should work | 16:50 |
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| aglarendil | as soon as we modify configs correspondingly | 16:51 |
| aglarendil | this is about galera | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | ok, thanks, it would be cool to see it master. Please note, if we don't merge it tomorrow - no way for 5.1 for it | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | no more exceptions on this | 16:51 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: let's move on, a few things left still | 16:51 |
| aglarendil | rabbitmq ocf script has some partitioning bugs, but after some poking it reassembles cluster just fine | 16:51 |
| aglarendil | along with galera script we have a very resilient HA architecture | 16:52 |
| aglarendil | I tested it just now and it works fine | 16:52 |
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| mihgen | aglarendil: it's great to hear that our HA finally gets right attention | 16:52 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic access-control-master | 16:52 |
| aglarendil | though, there are some bugs with memcache and some pacemaker improvements | 16:52 |
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| mihgen | and becomes better and better :) | 16:52 |
| mihgen | sambork: you go | 16:52 |
| sambork | We are on good way to finish all tasks according to blueprint stages I and II (http://docs-draft.openstack.org/29/96429/11/gate/gate-fuel-specs-docs/2807f30/doc/build/html/specs/5.1/access-control-master-node.html). Still 7 patches waiting for merge but 4 of them have enought +1 . Only fake tests and update waiting for review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/access-control-master-node,n,z .Tests are going | 16:53 |
| mihgen | sambork: very good | 16:53 |
| mihgen | out of those 4, all of them into fuel-library? | 16:53 |
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| mihgen | the plan from aglarendil was to merge ML2, and if it's all fine, then merge access control to fuel-library | 16:54 |
| sambork | 3 of them are in fuel-lib one from fuel-main | 16:54 |
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| mihgen | mattymo: can you confirm we are in a good shape in fuel-library? | 16:54 |
| mattymo | yes | 16:54 |
| mattymo | We had a false report of a regression with setting a custom password, but I couldn't reproduce. The remainder all good ready to merge. The only holdbakc is we're not enabling auth by default. It's a matter of updating 2 lines in Fuel Library to turn it on. | 16:54 |
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| mattymo | It's all beautiful. | 16:55 |
| mihgen | what about system tests? | 16:55 |
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| mihgen | unit? all ready for this feature? | 16:55 |
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| mattymo | Andrey Sledzinskiy said he was running thos etoday | 16:55 |
| mattymo | we have no unit tests for puppet | 16:55 |
| mihgen | I hope sys tests won't be broken after merge | 16:55 |
| mattymo | I told him to run first before full merge | 16:55 |
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| mattymo | but nothing will be possibly broken until we enable real auth | 16:55 |
| mihgen | nurla: are you aware of changes in sys test ? | 16:56 |
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| asledzinskiy | mihgen: I run only 'one_node_deploy' sys_test with enabled authorization and it passed | 16:56 |
| vkozhukalov | 5 minutes | 16:56 |
| mihgen | because of auths | 16:56 |
| mihgen | asledzinskiy: oh that's cool | 16:56 |
| asledzinskiy | now I'm checking ha deploys | 16:56 |
| mihgen | perfect, thanks guys | 16:56 |
| nurla | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104131/ | 16:56 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic nailgun plugins | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | let's keep pushing to merge remaining patches | 16:56 |
| meow-nofer | sup | 16:56 |
| meow-nofer | plugins are under active reviewing process | 16:57 |
| meow-nofer | the bad thing is we didn't merge new SQLAlchemy yet | 16:57 |
| meow-nofer | and it is required for plugins to work | 16:57 |
| mihgen | then sorry for 5.1.. | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | will merge your part in master once it's reopened | 16:58 |
| meow-nofer | but still, there are two requests, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104608/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97827/ | 16:58 |
| mihgen | too late for sqlalchemy update now | 16:58 |
| meow-nofer | and they are both ready to merge | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic image based provisioning | 16:58 |
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| mihgen | but folks stuff meow-nofer is doing is extremely important | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | it almost works | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | we have 6 pull requests | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/image-based-provisioning | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | some of them +1 | 16:59 |
| mihgen | so let's put attention to that, and review thoroughly, especially in terms of design. It's gonna be example on how to do further plugins in nailgun | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | and it does not break anything | 16:59 |
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| vkozhukalov | ending | 16:59 |
| mihgen | vkozhukalov: then it looks like we can merge if it has enough reviews | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | thanx everyone | 16:59 |
| mihgen | thanks vkozhukalov | 16:59 |
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| vkozhukalov | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 17:00:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-07-10-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-07-10-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-07-10-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| hyakuhei | Hi all :) | 17:01 |
| tkelsey | hi hyakuhei | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | hey! | 17:01 |
| mxin | hi | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | I've asked Jamie from HP to run the meeting and explain the plan for the agenda at the offsite | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | I'm in other meetings but will be lurking | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:02 |
| paulmo | Hey | 17:02 |
| chair6 | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 17:02:47 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chair6. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:02 |
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| chair6 | hi y'all.. | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | hey chair6 | 17:03 |
| tkelsey | hi chair6 | 17:03 |
| mxin | hi, chair6 | 17:03 |
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| chair6 | small group today, by the looks.. | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, seems like | 17:04 |
| chair6 | agenda? seattl offsite, anything else? | 17:04 |
| paulmo | Just the cool kids today? :) | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:04 |
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| chair6 | s/offsite/meetup/ | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | \o | 17:05 |
| dg_ | chair6 hey boss | 17:05 |
| mxin | wish that I could make it :-( | 17:05 |
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| chair6 | #topic Meetup | 17:06 |
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| chair6 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-juno-meetup | 17:06 |
| chair6 | yeah mxin, i know a few other folks who would like to be here but can't as well | 17:06 |
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| chair6 | we'll try to do some #openstack-security idling, keep people in the loop | 17:07 |
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| chair6 | location details are in the etherpad ^ | 17:07 |
| chair6 | show up at 9am on monday | 17:07 |
| chair6 | first hour or two will be used to plan the rest of the week | 17:08 |
| hyakuhei | Yup | 17:08 |
| chair6 | with the general rule that each project identified in the etherpad will get a number of 1/2 or full day sprints | 17:08 |
| chair6 | each morning we'll sync back up, discuss progress, change up the agenda as need be | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | This approach should let people who are interested in multiple items get involved where resource is most needed | 17:09 |
| shohel | quite agile process | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | *shudder* - agile. | 17:09 |
| mxin | nice | 17:10 |
| paulmo | heh | 17:10 |
| chair6 | breakfast / lunch should be brought in and we'll arrange dinners / evenings on the fly | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | sweet! | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | I for one welcome our HP overlords | 17:11 |
| chair6 | i think last count was ~15 attendees | 17:11 |
| chair6 | lol .. i rebel against them at every given opportunity | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | ;) | 17:11 |
| chair6 | any questions? logistics, etc? | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | LGTM | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | do we need to bring anything special? | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | laptop and a good attitude? | 17:13 |
| chair6 | that's about it | 17:13 |
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| chair6 | we ordered up a week of sunshine | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | excellent | 17:13 |
| paulmo | 1 week of sunshine = Seattle summer in general … almost :) | 17:13 |
| chair6 | hah | 17:14 |
| chair6 | okay, moving on.. | 17:14 |
| chair6 | #topic Other items | 17:14 |
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| chair6 | anything else? | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | who was interested in the anti-patterns? | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | was that you shohel? | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | shohel: ^ | 17:15 |
| shohel | yes, i will be there | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | shohel: was it you that was interested in anti-patterns or was that somebody else? | 17:16 |
| shohel | i think Malini was initially interestd | 17:16 |
| shohel | or collecting things | 17:16 |
| shohel | together | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | oh cool | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | they aren't here? | 17:17 |
| shohel | I did not see her in the confirmed list | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | is this her? 12.Malini Bhandaru - confirmed | 17:17 |
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| shohel | ok then, i must have missed | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool, I'll synch up with her at the meetup | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | I'd like to roll all of that stuff into the gate testing | 17:18 |
| chair6 | sounds good, that work seems to align fairly closely | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:18 |
| shohel | thats good idea | 17:18 |
| shohel | ideas can come ... what to check for | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | yep | 17:19 |
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| sriramhere | hello OSSG, apologies for being late | 17:20 |
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| shohel | welcome here | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | hey sriramhere | 17:20 |
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| tkelsey | hey | 17:20 |
| chair6 | i think we'll keep this short-and-sweet and call it done, unless anyone has other topics? | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:21 |
| shohel | yes | 17:21 |
| sriramhere | ok - what did i miss so far? | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | sriramhere: just where to go and when for meetup | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | 9:00, HP | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | breakfast and lunch provided | 17:21 |
| sriramhere | gr8. did we talk about the schedule for next week yet? | 17:21 |
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| chair6 | just talk about the meetup .. minutes will be posted once we end the meeting | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | we will have an intro Monday and then figure out the rest as we go | 17:22 |
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| sriramhere | thanks. chair6 - we also need to finalize a social event. | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:22 |
| sriramhere | i meant you and me, chair6. i vaguely having an offline email thread | 17:22 |
| chair6 | yup, i'll reply to your email on that | 17:22 |
| sriramhere | thx | 17:23 |
| chair6 | thanks y'all | 17:23 |
| chair6 | #endmeeting | 17:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 17:23:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-07-10-17.02.html | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-07-10-17.02.txt | 17:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-07-10-17.02.log.html | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | thanks all | 17:23 |
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| sriramhere | cyall next week thanks! | 17:23 |
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| malini1 | No OSSG folks today? | 17:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sahara folks, ping | 18:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ErikB, NikitaKonovalov, RobLevas, SergeyLukjanov, aignatov, alazarev, bob_nettleton, crobertsrh, dmitryme, elmiko, jspeidel, mattf, notmyname, skostiuchenko, sreshetnyak, tellesnobrega, themistymay, tmckay, tosky, ylobankov, ping | 18:02 |
| dmitryme | pong :-) | 18:02 |
| crobertsrh | I'm here :) | 18:02 |
| alazarev | o/ | 18:03 |
| elmiko | o/ | 18:03 |
| RobLevas | pong | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I've just started self-DDoS :) | 18:03 |
| tmckay | I'm here | 18:03 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay, let's start the meeting | 18:03 |
| skostiuchenko | hi | 18:03 |
| notmyname | what's up? | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | notmyname, oops, it was sort -u from several prev. meetings, sorry ;) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:03 |
| notmyname | heh, ok :-) | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 18:03:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | notmyname, btw you are fast ;) | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:04 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 18:04 |
| notmyname | SergeyLukjanov: I'm "swift"? ;-) | 18:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | notmyname :) | 18:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, hey | 18:05 |
| alazarev | uppercase go before lowercase :) | 18:05 |
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| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, hey | 18:05 |
| dmitryme | I did minor changes + review | 18:05 |
| * mattf is happy to have found his way back to irc | 18:05 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, we're happy to see you again too ;) | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, and it's time to sync oslo | 18:06 |
| * mattf smiles | 18:06 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | (no kidding) | 18:06 |
| mattf | overdue actually! | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yeah | 18:06 |
| elmiko | i've been investigating the code base in preparation for the swift/auth bp. starting to make mock ups of the keystone trust delegation and swift client interactions. also getting some reviews in. | 18:06 |
| mattf | i'll put it in my evening catchup queue | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, awesome, thx | 18:06 |
| mattf | give me an action for the meeting so i'm definitely on the hook | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action mattf to sync oslo | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, we have a separated topic for you re dashboard2horizon ;) | 18:07 |
| crobertsrh | Yes, I feel so special | 18:07 |
| mattf | 2horizon or not 2horizon | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | the only new thing from me is that I've pushed patches to make sahara using i18n | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, :) | 18:08 |
| alazarev | I’ve fixed some heat engine staff | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I mean oslo.i18n | 18:08 |
| tmckay | working on spark EDP via ssh and spark-submit | 18:08 |
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| tmckay | I have some questions about plugin configs for general topics ... | 18:08 |
| alazarev | and pushed error handing refactoring | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yup, I've seen your questions | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, let's discuss it before the open discussion | 18:09 |
| crobertsrh | I've been putting together a list of dashboard to-do items and trying to think about whether or not they will fit for Juno. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-juno-post-merge-changes | 18:09 |
| tmckay | okay | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any other news/updates? | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, great | 18:10 |
| crobertsrh | My Juno cycle is probably going to be truncated by a couple of weeks. I will most likely be gone for a couple weeks starting August 15th. | 18:10 |
| mattf | i'm planning to submit a talk about sahara & spark for summit | 18:10 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, why is that? ;-) | 18:10 |
| crobertsrh | Because I am a slacker :) | 18:10 |
| alazarev | crobertsrh: it would be great to get at least something working in horizon by juno :) | 18:10 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-juno-post-merge-changes | 18:11 |
| dmitryme | alazarev: actually there are couple of pages in horizon alredy :-) | 18:11 |
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| crobertsrh | alazarev: the current "drop dead" date is j-2 (July 24), so I hope so too. | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara-dashboard @ horizon status (croberts) | 18:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sahara-dashboard @ horizon status (croberts) (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 18:11 | |
| crobertsrh | The merge is still limping along at a snail's pace. It looked like the next panel was close to being merged the other day, but a small problem was found and it's back to the waiting queue again. 2 weeks from today is the deadline. At the current pace of reviews, we will not make it. | 18:12 |
| * mattf hunts for a box of tissues | 18:12 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-juno-post-merge-changes | 18:12 |
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| crobertsrh | I have an agenda item each week in their meeting where they say that the Sahara reviews are a priority, but I'm just not feeling the love (at least not as much as I'd like to make me comfortable). | 18:12 |
| crobertsrh | On the plus side, several of the recent -1s have been for things as small as a period at the end of a message. | 18:13 |
| crobertsrh | I think they are running out of ways to keep us out. | 18:13 |
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| mattf | anyone from horizon here now? | 18:13 |
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| alazarev | mattf: don’t think so | 18:14 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah | 18:14 |
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| crobertsrh | wrong window...sorry | 18:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | okay, let's move on | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 18:15 |
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| mattf | i can re-ping the rht folks | 18:15 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, can you re-ping the mirantis folks? | 18:15 |
| mattf | sballe, will you re-ping the hp folks? | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm now have drafts for both my action items, but it's still WIP | 18:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, I think that our folks are well pinged ;) | 18:15 |
| sballe | mattf, Yes will do so now | 18:15 |
| mattf | thx | 18:15 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dmitryme, could you please talk with Tatyana tomorrow? | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp with steps to enable heat be default | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp about removing/hiding username@image for heat based provisioning | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action aignatov create bp re moving/updating rest samples docs and do it | 18:16 |
| dmitryme | SergeyLukjanov: I will, but she actually does review | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action dmitryme to remind aignatov and SergeyLukjanov to make their action items | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Juno 2 (July 24) | 18:17 |
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| alazarev | saturday is the best time to talk with Tatyana :) | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, the next dev milestone is in two weeks | 18:17 |
| dmitryme | mine action item is done, but I did it only once. Probably I should have beed more pushy | 18:17 |
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| dmitryme | alazarev: am, tomorrow is friday actually | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:17 |
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| alazarev | dmitryme: I used to have Jul 4 each week and consider friday as saturday, sorry :) | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, folks, please, note that the next week is the last week to land something for j2 | 18:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | due to the current status of sahara 2 dashboard merge I think that we'll need to wait for some additional time after the j2 | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but the merge will be completed in time for Juno release | 18:20 |
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| mattf | the current plan is to abort and release from sahara so we have SOME opportunity to enhance it in juno | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I mean that it's not just our hope | 18:21 |
| mattf | shall we re-evaluate next week? | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, we have two weeks to look on a progress | 18:21 |
| mattf | i'm very concerned that we're not going to be able to make necessary changes, even if we get it merged | 18:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yup, it's possible too | 18:22 |
| mattf | i know it's the horizon folks intent to have integrated projects under the horizon umbrella, but the pace of merge is not promising | 18:22 |
| crobertsrh | I'm hoping that the wait for changes after the merge is shorter (smaller patches should be easier to review), but there is still a rather large back log of reviews in horizon. | 18:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, yeah | 18:23 |
| mattf | we may be fooling ourselves here | 18:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | that's why I think that we should ensure that our sahara-dashboard is working after j2 and be ready to rollback to it | 18:23 |
| mattf | but we should wait a week+ before we have the meeting to decide | 18:23 |
| sballe | mattf, I just sent the email. I will follow later in person | 18:24 |
| mattf | sballe, thank you | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but IMO we should double our patches to both -dashboard and horizon now | 18:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sballe, thank you | 18:24 |
| mattf | SergeyLukjanov, let's make that decision w/ the review in a week+ | 18:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sballe, re your questions - ping us after the meeting in sahara channel - it's a good time to catch the team | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yeah | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #action team to review dashboard2horizon merge and decide to rollback or not and when | 18:25 |
| sballe | SergeyLukjanov, ok thx | 18:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Pilot sahara-specs | 18:26 |
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| crobertsrh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/horizon+branch:master+topic:bp/merge-sahara-dashboard,n,z to see the outstanding patches for the merge | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, thx | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we have a bunch of open specs - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/sahara-specs+AND+status:open,n,z | 18:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and some already merged specs - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/sahara-specs+AND+status:merged,n,z | 18:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and I'm happy to see that it's really helping to make blueprints much more detailed | 18:27 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: +1 | 18:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Plugin-specific sahara configs | 18:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, let's discuss it here | 18:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, you need to add spark plugin specific option to sahara.conf? | 18:29 |
| crobertsrh | Was it removed before because we didn't want them or because we just didn't use/need them at the time? | 18:29 |
| tmckay | well, that's the question. In short, spark EDP needs to know SPARK_HOME | 18:29 |
| tmckay | but, the nodes don't | 18:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, I've removed them while migrating from handmade plugin framework to stevedore | 18:29 |
| tmckay | So, should that be a cluster config, or something only on the Sahara side? | 18:29 |
| tmckay | Maybe a cluster config is better | 18:30 |
| mattf | tmckay, isn't SPARK_HOME an attribute of the cluster? | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, IMO it's cluster config | 18:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, it could be diff. value for diff. images | 18:30 |
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| tmckay | right, it's fixed in the image. Okay, I agree, it should be a cluster config with a default in the spark plugin | 18:31 |
| mattf | i think we all just came to the same conclusion at the same moment | 18:31 |
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| * tmckay has been poking at this for a little while | 18:31 | |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sounds like time for open disc | 18:31 |
| tmckay | so we don't need plugin specific configs in sahara.conf for now :) | 18:31 |
| tmckay | But if we do, I found a simple way :) | 18:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anyone wants personal topics? | 18:32 |
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| elmiko | i've got a question or two about the swift/auth changes | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, it's really easy to add support for it | 18:32 |
| tmckay | You can create on oslo.cfg.ConfigOpts with a specific section ("spark") and reparse the default config files at plugin load, then reference that object only in the plugin | 18:32 |
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| tmckay | isolated, and no reparse of the main CONF object | 18:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, it's important, so, let's have a topic for it | 18:32 |
| elmiko | k | 18:33 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Swift auth discussion | 18:33 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, please | 18:33 |
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| elmiko | ok, so i'll need some help understanding the hadoop-swift fs component | 18:33 |
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| elmiko | who is the best person to bug about that? | 18:34 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, alazarev could help with it | 18:34 |
| elmiko | noted | 18:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, he's not the author but I think that he knows it well | 18:34 |
| elmiko | also, should i wait for the spec to be merged before i start making a branch and setting up reviews? | 18:34 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, I think that you should wait for merge just to be sure that we're all agree on the approach | 18:35 |
| alazarev | elmiko: yes, I can | 18:35 |
| elmiko | ack, i'll keep investigating | 18:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, but if you have something already done, it's ok to propose reviews | 18:35 |
| mattf | def no +A tho | 18:35 |
| elmiko | also, we will need to use the swift storageURL for access to the token based auth. would it be acceptable to change the url we pass in workflow.xml or better to put the url in place with the tokens? | 18:36 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | mattf, aignatov, tmckay, please, review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104647/ (and let's approve it on the next week to make folks able to review it) | 18:37 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, unclear on the workflow.xml url issue. | 18:38 |
| tmckay | elmiko, hadoop will need something to identify the object, and something else to handle the auth. | 18:38 |
| tmckay | I should probably review your spec :) | 18:39 |
| elmiko | my understanding is that we pass a swift:// url to the nodes in the workflow.xml (along with the creds) | 18:39 |
| tmckay | I saw it in etherpad form | 18:39 |
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| tmckay | yes, and the fs plugin takes that url apart | 18:39 |
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| elmiko | if we want to use the token based authentication we will need the swift storageURL to gain access | 18:39 |
| elmiko | which looks more like, http://ip:port/AUTH_uuid/container/object | 18:39 |
| tmckay | does that still point to the particular object? | 18:40 |
| tmckay | oh, so it does | 18:40 |
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| elmiko | we can still pull the container/object out, but the base url needs to be different | 18:40 |
| elmiko | my question is, will it be acceptable to change the url that gets deployed to the workflow? | 18:40 |
| elmiko | (i will note this in the spec) | 18:41 |
| tmckay | I think that should be okay. In general, we need all swift urls to not require credentials, so swift access in Sahara (for getting binaries) and in hadoop should work the same | 18:41 |
| tmckay | I think "yes" | 18:41 |
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| elmiko | k | 18:41 |
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| tmckay | Hmm, well, it might depend on the patch | 18:41 |
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| tmckay | I think it identifies the fs type by the schema | 18:42 |
| tmckay | hdfs://, swift://, ec | 18:42 |
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| elmiko | we could still preface with swift://, and just replace with http:// during usage | 18:42 |
| tmckay | so http might throw a wrench. alazarev may know better | 18:42 |
| tmckay | ack | 18:42 |
| elmiko | we just can't do, swift://container/object | 18:42 |
| tmckay | at that point, I think the details could be handled in the swift plugin part | 18:42 |
| elmiko | we need the actual storage url for the token to work | 18:43 |
| tmckay | gotcha | 18:43 |
| alazarev | yes, it schema is registered in hadoop | 18:43 |
| elmiko | yea, also why i need some help with the swift plugin part. my java is a little rusty | 18:43 |
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| tmckay | Mine has moth holes. | 18:43 |
| elmiko | lol | 18:43 |
| tmckay | but I can read it | 18:44 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, wake up, please :) | 18:44 |
| elmiko | alazarev: when i get some specific questions about the swift plugin, i'll bring them to you | 18:44 |
| alazarev | elmiko: sure | 18:44 |
| tmckay | so elmiko, in short, the only thing that use that url in the workflow is hadoop itself | 18:44 |
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| elmiko | ok, good to know | 18:45 |
| tmckay | we have the same form url for sahara binary retrieval, but those can be changed separately. And we might have to change validation in the REST stuff for the form of the url, not sure. | 18:45 |
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| elmiko | the alternative is for sahara to distribute the storageURL when it distributes the trust tokens | 18:45 |
| alazarev | elmiko: but this url is used by generic hadoop driver, .container was used to bypass its usual workflow | 18:46 |
| tmckay | elmiko, I think it might depend on user impact | 18:47 |
| elmiko | alazarev: but the swift:// url is only used by the swift plugin, right? | 18:47 |
| tmckay | elmiko, we still want people in the UI or cli to say "swift://container/object" | 18:47 |
| tmckay | without any reference to auth | 18:47 |
| elmiko | tmckay: yes, that doesn't change | 18:47 |
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| elmiko | internally, sahara will associate the storageURL endpoint with the container and object from the user | 18:47 |
| tmckay | elmiko, any security issue having that http url exposed in the workflow? | 18:48 |
| elmiko | that url can only be used with authentication | 18:48 |
| elmiko | so, i don't think so | 18:48 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, we could also send multiple urls (not sure if there's a reason) | 18:49 |
| alazarev | elmiko: right | 18:49 |
| elmiko | alazarev: ack | 18:49 |
| elmiko | i think that satisfies my questions.... for now | 18:49 |
| tmckay | lot of inside baseball, I think the other people went to sleep :) | 18:50 |
| elmiko | this always happens when i start talking about this | 18:50 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:50 |
| tmckay | elmiko, someday spark will support swift and we may have the whole discussion again | 18:50 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:51 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | 9 mins left | 18:51 |
| elmiko | tmckay: i'm ok with that, i will be a keystone/swift wizard by then :D | 18:51 |
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| elmiko | just to echo SergeyLukjanov's comment from before, i think the new -spec system is really nice and helps to define the blueprints in greater detail. | 18:52 |
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| tmckay | +2, I've written a couple and it was great | 18:52 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I'm writing two and facing some language barrier to fully describe | 18:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and time barrier too ;) | 18:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 5 mins left | 18:55 |
| crobertsrh | nothing from me | 18:55 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 18:56:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-07-10-18.03.html | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-07-10-18.03.txt | 18:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-07-10-18.03.log.html | 18:56 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thank you folks! | 18:56 |
| tmckay | welcome, bye | 18:56 |
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| elmiko | thanks | 18:56 |
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| markwash | glance time | 20:00 |
| markwash | #startmeeting glance | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 20:00:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 20:00 |
| markwash | o/ | 20:00 |
| nikhil___ | o/ | 20:00 |
| zhiyan | o/ | 20:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 20:00 |
| arnaud | o/ | 20:00 |
| markwash | okay let's get started | 20:01 |
| markwash | agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 20:01 |
| markwash | #topic bug day | 20:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "bug day (Meeting topic: glance)" | 20:01 | |
| markwash | we got a little heat on the mailing list recently | 20:01 |
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| markwash | jokke_: since you added the item to the agenda, here's the mic | 20:01 |
| * markwash passes the mic | 20:01 | |
| markwash | oh | 20:02 |
| markwash | I guess he didn't o/ | 20:02 |
| markwash | haha | 20:02 |
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| arnaud | lol | 20:02 |
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| arnaud | ok | 20:02 |
| markwash | arnaud: any thoughts about bug day from your quarter? | 20:02 |
| arnaud | I can take the mic | 20:02 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 20:02 |
| arnaud | so based on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-bug-day | 20:03 |
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| arnaud | the bug day will happen Week 14-18 | 20:03 |
| arnaud | which is next week | 20:03 |
| arnaud | I will send an email to the ML later today | 20:03 |
| markwash | great! | 20:03 |
| jokke_ | hello | 20:03 |
| jokke_ | sorry | 20:03 |
| arnaud | something to add jokke_ ? | 20:03 |
| markwash | jokke_: no worries | 20:03 |
| arnaud | for the bug day? | 20:03 |
| zhiyan | I have a business travel next week, sorry | 20:03 |
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| jokke_ | no ... I was just hoping we get bit more attendance for that than you and me :) | 20:04 |
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| arnaud | :) | 20:04 |
| markwash | the ML post might recruit a few more | 20:04 |
| arnaud | yep | 20:04 |
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| ashwini | what day in that week? | 20:04 |
| nikhil___ | Mon or Tue or Wed | 20:04 |
| ativelkov | what's the purpose of bug day: a bug triage or bug fixing? | 20:04 |
| ativelkov | (or adding new bugs? :)) | 20:05 |
| nikhil___ | triage mostly | 20:05 |
| arnaud | what about Tuesday? | 20:05 |
| markwash | Tuesday is good for me | 20:05 |
| jokke_ | I'd vote for Wed ... might have some actions needed at the start of the week due change landing prod | 20:05 |
| markwash | Monday is a bit hard | 20:05 |
| markwash | Wednesday also works for me | 20:06 |
| arnaud | ok so Wed | 20:06 |
| nikhil___ | +1 -> Tuesday | 20:06 |
| nikhil___ | :) | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | if that's ok with you guys | 20:06 |
| arnaud | lol | 20:06 |
| zhiyan | bug fixing imo. ativelkov | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | I probably can do Tue as well | 20:06 |
| zhiyan | i can try to join at Wed | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | Mon I really rather not | 20:06 |
| arnaud | I mean it can be Tuesday and Wednesday | 20:06 |
| nikhil___ | +1 | 20:06 |
| arnaud | but you don't have to be 100% both days | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | +3 | 20:06 |
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| arnaud | ok so let's do that then | 20:07 |
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| jokke_ | I think we have enough for 2 days anyways | 20:07 |
| ativelkov | What are the hours? I'll be happy to join any day, but my time zone is quite far from yours | 20:07 |
| jokke_ | if not, happy days | 20:07 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: which timezone you're at? | 20:07 |
| ativelkov | UTC+4 | 20:07 |
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| boris-42 | hi all | 20:08 |
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| markwash | let's at least have a clear kickoff | 20:08 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: we can start on your afternoon and I carry that over for the US folks when they wake up :P | 20:08 |
| markwash | so I know when to first show up | 20:08 |
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| zhiyan | mine is utc+8 :P | 20:08 |
| ativelkov | jokke_: great, this will do | 20:08 |
| jokke_ | I'm currently on utc+1 | 20:08 |
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| ativelkov | So, we'll have 24 hours of bugs :) | 20:09 |
| markwash | utc-7 | 20:09 |
| nikhil___ | relay | 20:09 |
| arnaud | :) | 20:09 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: you need to move 1000miles East :D | 20:09 |
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| nikhil___ | jokke_: more like 6K | 20:10 |
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| markwash | why 1000 east? why not 14000 miles west? | 20:11 |
| markwash | okay | 20:11 |
| jokke_ | we have 265 open bugs which of 105 are still at New | 20:11 |
| jokke_ | so I'm pretty sure we have enough to do even passing the stick on | 20:11 |
| markwash | +1 | 20:11 |
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| arnaud | also I think we need to do a better job at tagging | 20:12 |
| arnaud | the bugs | 20:12 |
| jokke_ | ##openstack-glance-bugs? | 20:12 |
| arnaud | 9 propose-close | 20:12 |
| arnaud | 9 low-hanging-fruit | 20:12 |
| arnaud | 5 db | 20:12 |
| arnaud | 4 testing | 20:12 |
| arnaud | ... | 20:12 |
| jokke_ | arnaud: we also would need to document the tags | 20:13 |
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| arnaud | good point | 20:13 |
| markwash | I'm guessing we'll get a lot out of propose-close as we go through that list | 20:13 |
| jokke_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bug_Tags has only propose-close after I put it there | 20:13 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: hopefully | 20:13 |
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| markwash | so, we're trying for two days? did I hear that correctly? | 20:14 |
| nikhil___ | why no on #openstack-glance ? | 20:14 |
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| arnaud | yep markwash | 20:15 |
| jokke_ | nikhil___: I was just thinking to have the bug off from our normal daily chat + off from review announcements | 20:15 |
| nikhil___ | one more question are those 2 days as per UTC time? | 20:15 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: correct Tue+Wed | 20:15 |
| jokke_ | markwash: When do you want to do Kickoff? | 20:15 |
| nikhil___ | jokke_: ah k | 20:15 |
| markwash | okay, sounds good, let see that email to the list, I think folks can respond with their general plans for the 2 day timeframe | 20:15 |
| jokke_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bug_Tags | 20:16 |
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| markwash | jokke_: I'm not sure, I think we just want to keep people mutually engaged, so probably we can do that if people give a sense of when they'll start in a response on the ML | 20:16 |
| markwash | so let's pass on a kickoff | 20:16 |
| markwash | and just try to keep visibility high | 20:16 |
| markwash | sound okay? | 20:17 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-bug-day | 20:17 |
| jokke_ | markwash: sounds good to me | 20:17 |
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| markwash | okay great | 20:17 |
| markwash | next up! | 20:17 |
| markwash | #topic functional testing to tempest | 20:17 |
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| markwash | jokke_: this is your item | 20:18 |
| markwash | but nikhil___ has some info too, I imagine | 20:18 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106146 | 20:18 |
| jokke_ | I think nikhil___ you were driving this ... I just brought it to agenda | 20:18 |
| markwash | gotcha | 20:18 |
| markwash | thanks | 20:18 |
| markwash | anybody not on board with this plan? | 20:18 |
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| nikhil___ | jokke_: oh glad you brought it up | 20:19 |
| jokke_ | My plan was to ask around when we will start, but nikhil___ proposed the spec in between ... so my only quiestion would be timing? | 20:19 |
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| nikhil___ | think many people have interest in this | 20:20 |
| nikhil___ | zhiyan: hemanth__ ^ ? | 20:20 |
| ativelkov | Will this move only glance/tests/functional? Or glance/tests/integration as well? | 20:20 |
| nikhil___ | jokke_: oops 0:-) | 20:20 |
| zhiyan | nikhil___: yes | 20:20 |
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| markwash | I think it will save the need for some of the legacy tests in glance/tests/functional, perhaps | 20:21 |
| hemanth__ | nikhil___: sure | 20:21 |
| markwash | since the main goal of those legacy tests was retiring a lot of glance/tests/functional | 20:21 |
| markwash | but I strongly encourage people to second guess me on that position :-) | 20:21 |
| nikhil___ | jokke_: zhiyan hemanth__ : haven't added any other assignees to that yet, if you all wanted to add your name and push a PS ? | 20:22 |
| jokke_ | I would prefer us not to throw all the functionals to tempest at least to start with | 20:22 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: agree, tentatively that seems like the approach we want to take. | 20:22 |
| zhiyan | +1 :) | 20:22 |
| jokke_ | I think that's something we would need to discuss what funtionals and perhaps integrations we want to move | 20:23 |
| nikhil___ | jokke_: +1 , if we can do it in staggered fashion | 20:23 |
| markwash | okay, so maybe we can take cleaning up integration tests as a followup? | 20:23 |
| jokke_ | +1 | 20:23 |
| markwash | fine by me | 20:23 |
| markwash | back to the question of when | 20:24 |
| markwash | what's our goal? j2? | 20:24 |
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| jokke_ | can we embed also re-enablement of some tests ... I've noticed that we have quite a few tests skipped with comments "skipped until bug 100xxxxx gets resolved" | 20:24 |
| markwash | j3? | 20:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 100 in launchpad "uploading po file overwrites authors list" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100 | 20:24 |
| nikhil___ | +1 -> j3 | 20:24 |
| markwash | pipe down uvirtbot | 20:24 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: how about j2 non-voting j3 fully in game tests removed from codebase? | 20:25 |
| zhiyan | nikhil___: may i know where you want to move those test cases to tempest? api or scenario? | 20:25 |
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| nikhil___ | jokke_: only concern, I'd is not to raise TC's hope of adding more tests to tempest | 20:25 |
| jokke_ | or do we have ready place for them? | 20:25 |
| nikhil___ | on the other hand whatever helps, I guess | 20:25 |
| markwash | I think the TC is only tracking the binary image data coverage part | 20:25 |
| markwash | they probably are happy leaving the rest of it to us | 20:26 |
| jokke_ | markwash: that's the one that is there already? :P | 20:26 |
| markwash | jokke_: sorry, what do you mean exactly? | 20:26 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: while talking on the qe channel, I heard murmurs of not enough Glance tests in tempest and that someone got correlated with the wiki | 20:26 |
| markwash | jokke_: fwiw I like that timetable you proposed | 20:27 |
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| nikhil___ | s/someone/somehow/gc | 20:27 |
| markwash | I'd like to see some concrete progress in j2 | 20:27 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: I think it was last or previous week mentioned that the tempest tests for glance are already using binary data, no? | 20:27 |
| markwash | ah, perhaps | 20:28 |
| markwash | so I know nikhil___ is looking into that binary data testing stuff, he can confirm when he has enough info | 20:28 |
| nikhil___ | ah | 20:28 |
| markwash | it sounded like there was at least something we should add to the tests to satisfy the gaps | 20:29 |
| zhiyan1 | (I just disconnected from irc and now back, by this id, hum, networking is kill me, again) | 20:29 |
| nikhil___ | what markwash said :) | 20:29 |
| markwash | apart from that effort, who is looking to help with adding the glance functional tests to tempest? | 20:29 |
| markwash | that probably needs to happen before we remove the tests from glance | 20:29 |
| zhiyan1 | nikhil___: i just said i like join this efforts | 20:30 |
| markwash | zhiyan1: great | 20:30 |
| jokke_ | I need some pointers where to start with, but will be more than happy to help | 20:30 |
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| markwash | okay I guess we'll see people patch their names into the glance-spec | 20:30 |
| markwash | so we'll have people and a timetable | 20:30 |
| markwash | sounds good to me | 20:30 |
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| markwash | ready for next topic? | 20:30 |
| zhiyan1 | may i know where you want to move those test cases to tempest? api or scenario? | 20:30 |
| zhiyan1 | nikhil___: ^ | 20:30 |
| zhiyan1 | (i'm not sure i posted this msg successfully) | 20:31 |
| markwash | zhiyan1: I'm a little in the dark about tempest's structure--do you have a recommendation? | 20:31 |
| jokke_ | same here | 20:31 |
| zhiyan1 | frankly, me too. will check it | 20:31 |
| nikhil___ | zhiyan1: markwash jokke_ : think we should plan to attend the openstack-qe team meeting later today to figure it out | 20:31 |
| nikhil___ | or some/one of us :) | 20:31 |
| jokke_ | @ which time is that? | 20:32 |
| nikhil___ | it's at 22UTC iirc | 20:32 |
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| zhiyan1 | nikhil___: good idea | 20:32 |
| jokke_ | I'll see if I stay awake :D | 20:32 |
| markwash | I cannot make that unfortunately, but I look forward to hearing back :-) | 20:32 |
| markwash | if somebody wants to dive in and propose a change to tempest, though | 20:32 |
| markwash | I'm sure the tempest core folks would give us some pointers | 20:32 |
| markwash | if we accidentally picked the wrong spot the first time :-) | 20:33 |
| jokke_ | :P | 20:33 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: np, last time mtreinish asked me to join to discuss a bit more however I was waiting on creating that spec to give a better picture :) | 20:33 |
| boris-42 | markwash guys you should make more rally benchmarks as well! | 20:33 |
| boris-42 | =) | 20:33 |
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| jokke_ | boris-42: you're more than welcome to contribute ;D | 20:33 |
| boris-42 | jokke_ where?) | 20:33 |
| jokke_ | ^^ | 20:34 |
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| boris-42 | lol | 20:34 |
| markwash | boris-42 has provided us the framework :-) | 20:34 |
| boris-42 | markwash and integration in gates | 20:34 |
| boris-42 | with reports=) | 20:34 |
| jokke_ | markwash: and apparently just volunteered to extend that :) | 20:34 |
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| zhiyan1 | yeah, seems it's useful to catch perf issue | 20:34 |
| markwash | all right, let see if the details of tempest testing can coagulate around that spec, I think we can move on | 20:35 |
| boris-42 | markwash btw we have base support of SLA=) | 20:35 |
| arnaud | boris-42, where can we find the reports? | 20:35 |
| boris-42 | arnaud https://github.com/stackforge/rally | 20:35 |
| markwash | #topic rally and osprofiler | 20:35 |
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| markwash | boris-42: ping | 20:35 |
| markwash | :-) | 20:35 |
| boris-42 | markwash pong lol | 20:35 |
| boris-42 | =) | 20:35 |
| boris-42 | markwash so as I don't sleep=) | 20:35 |
| markwash | boris-42: can you link us in again to your glance osprofiler integration change | 20:36 |
| boris-42 | probably some of us know that I am annoying everybody with requests to merge my patches ASAP | 20:36 |
| boris-42 | =) | 20:36 |
| markwash | sorry, I lost the link | 20:36 |
| boris-42 | markwash https://github.com/stackforge/osprofiler | 20:36 |
| zhiyan1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105635/ | 20:36 |
| boris-42 | ^ So this is the repo of project | 20:36 |
| boris-42 | and this is already merged in glance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103362/ | 20:36 |
| boris-42 | So lemme introduce you guys in what is osprofilre | 20:37 |
| boris-42 | and what are future plans | 20:37 |
| markwash | zhiyan1: thanks! | 20:37 |
| boris-42 | Major difference from cProfiler and osprofiler that our goal is to build one trace of points | 20:37 |
| boris-42 | that goes through all services and projects | 20:37 |
| boris-42 | e.g. nova during booting of VM requests images from glance | 20:38 |
| boris-42 | okay it's simpler to show lol | 20:38 |
| markwash | +1 | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | shoot | 20:38 |
| arnaud | where we find an example of report? | 20:38 |
| markwash | the trace view is great | 20:38 |
| boris-42 | https://gist.github.com/boris-42/c3c3ee1c2c7db40de236 | 20:38 |
| boris-42 | ^ this is plain text | 20:38 |
| boris-42 | e.g. json with tree of objects | 20:39 |
| boris-42 | in info goes everything from tracepoint that you would like to put | 20:39 |
| boris-42 | and this can be presented in different ways | 20:39 |
| markwash | boris-42: do you have a link to share that shows the overall timing view of a request? | 20:39 |
| boris-42 | http://pavlovic.me/rally/profiler/ one is this | 20:39 |
| boris-42 | markwash ^ you mean this ? | 20:40 |
| markwash | yes that's it | 20:40 |
| boris-42 | actually I am planing to use a bit different thing | 20:40 |
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| boris-42 | http://bl.ocks.org/kerryrodden/7090426 | 20:40 |
| boris-42 | ^ this seems much better | 20:40 |
| arnaud | f a n c y | 20:40 |
| markwash | haha yes | 20:40 |
| boris-42 | so the major super cool stuff about profiler is | 20:41 |
| boris-42 | that it works out of box | 20:41 |
| boris-42 | it can be turned on always even in production | 20:41 |
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| jokke_ | boris-42: that looks nifty | 20:41 |
| boris-42 | and it won't produce any load | 20:41 |
| boris-42 | unit it is triggered | 20:41 |
| boris-42 | by special headers in HTTP request | 20:41 |
| zhiyan1 | boris-42: the result looks pretty good , btw, that's the unit of "finished" and "start" field? | 20:41 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan1 milisecs | 20:42 |
| boris-42 | 10^-3 secs | 20:42 |
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| zhiyan1 | boris-42: thanks | 20:42 |
| markwash | and the key thing is those headers are actually secure in the sense that | 20:42 |
| boris-42 | markwash yep they are secure | 20:43 |
| boris-42 | markwash you have to know HMAC key that is specified in api-paste.ini | 20:43 |
| boris-42 | to be able to send proper headers | 20:43 |
| markwash | you have to have a private key in order to trigger a trace generation | 20:43 |
| boris-42 | yep yep | 20:43 |
| markwash | so with this private key situation, the idea is to have the default for osprofiler integration to be "on" | 20:43 |
| markwash | and that's the main thing I wanted people to know about | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | markwash and one more thing | 20:44 |
| zhiyan1 | boris-42: so the value of "SECRET_KEY" in glance-api-paste.ini you proposed is a hardcode value? or just a env name | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | if it is on by default | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan1 it's hardcoded | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan1 and should be the same in all projects | 20:44 |
| zhiyan1 | operator needs to change it as needed right? | 20:44 |
| zhiyan1 | ok | 20:44 |
| zhiyan1 | got | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan1 yep like passwords | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | -) | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | don't use 12345 as a pass | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | =) | 20:44 |
| jokke_ | so is this trace done only on the requests where the trigger is? | 20:44 |
| boris-42 | jokke_ yep | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | Not like you put it on and need to remember to turn it off as well | 20:45 |
| boris-42 | jokke_ but it can be extended in future | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | oh cool | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | no I like that | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | ;) | 20:45 |
| boris-42 | I mean we can extend it | 20:45 |
| boris-42 | to trace every X request | 20:45 |
| boris-42 | and collect useful info for opertors | 20:45 |
| zhiyan1 | boris-42: so those trace data will be send out from glance by message right? | 20:45 |
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| boris-42 | zhiyan1 it's first implementation | 20:45 |
| boris-42 | based on Ceilometer + oslo.messaging | 20:45 |
| boris-42 | in future probably we will be able to use something else | 20:46 |
| zhiyan1 | so it will spend some overhead , iiuc right? | 20:46 |
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| boris-42 | zhiyan1 yep if it is triggered | 20:46 |
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| boris-42 | zhiyan1 it will produce overhead | 20:46 |
| markwash | (lets give this a few more minutes, we need to spend some time on the Graffiti and Artifacts stuff) | 20:46 |
| boris-42 | markwash ok | 20:46 |
| markwash | I think if folks can follow up with questions on the review it would be most helpful | 20:46 |
| zhiyan1 | ok markwash | 20:46 |
| boris-42 | Btw | 20:46 |
| boris-42 | one more thing | 20:46 |
| markwash | as it stands, we have a config option deployers can use to turn *off* profiling completely | 20:47 |
| boris-42 | if it will be turned on by default we will be able to add support profiling in rally gates | 20:47 |
| markwash | and they can also (with more difficulty) rip it out of the paste config | 20:47 |
| boris-42 | so you will be able to get traces during benchmark in nice report | 20:47 |
| boris-42 | automatically | 20:47 |
| zhiyan1 | markwash: so what about disable it by default? (seems you like enable it) | 20:47 |
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| boris-42 | e.g. put any amount of traces + put proper benchmark (via plugging) + and run it | 20:48 |
| boris-42 | and get all that you need=) | 20:48 |
| boris-42 | so we will get rid of holly wars about perfromance=) | 20:48 |
| markwash | I want it on by default so that its on in the gates and is generally useable by folks without having to restart services | 20:48 |
| markwash | and I think the crypto story is good enough to allow us to turn it on by default | 20:48 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan1 yep as it doesn't produce any overhhead | 20:48 |
| boris-42 | zhiyan1 why not keeping it on?) | 20:49 |
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| markwash | okay, but I think I need to cut it off here, so we can have some time to check in with ativelkov and TravT | 20:49 |
| boris-42 | markwash ok good | 20:49 |
| markwash | thanks guys, let's follow up on the review | 20:49 |
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| markwash | #topic Graffiti / Catalog | 20:49 |
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| TravT | re: Graffiti | 20:50 |
| markwash | TravT, lakshmiS, et al: still around? | 20:50 |
| TravT | We've started posting code and I'm about to post an update to the spec based on review comments and things we've discovered in development. | 20:50 |
| TravT | Glance: #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105904 | 20:50 |
| TravT | python-glanceClient - #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105231/ | 20:50 |
| TravT | And a coupld of Horizon ones in progress | 20:50 |
| TravT | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99761/ #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104063/ | 20:51 |
| arnaud | great TravT | 20:51 |
| TravT | Everything is work in progress, but we're always open to feedback. | 20:51 |
| markwash | excellent | 20:52 |
| markwash | I look forward to the update to the spec | 20:52 |
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| wayne__ | one question that has come up is, we've added CRUD methods to glance/db/sqlalchemy/api.py...do we need to add similar support to the registry/api.py? | 20:52 |
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| markwash | I think that is necessary, yes | 20:53 |
| jokke_ | wayne__: yes please | 20:53 |
| zhiyan1 | yes | 20:53 |
| wayne__ | ok | 20:53 |
| markwash | it would be nice to add them to the simple db api as well | 20:53 |
| zhiyan1 | and simple | 20:53 |
| wayne__ | and is the glance/db/simple used primarily for testing? | 20:53 |
| zhiyan1 | yes | 20:53 |
| markwash | any other questions or notes for now? | 20:54 |
| lakshmiS | Some early reviews on the code submitted will be helpful since we are trying to get ourselves familiar | 20:54 |
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| markwash | good point | 20:54 |
| markwash | okay, let's move along, only a little time left | 20:54 |
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| markwash | #topic artifact repository | 20:54 |
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| markwash | btw the mission statement change was approved | 20:55 |
| markwash | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98002/ | 20:55 |
| markwash | ativelkov: any notes for us today? | 20:55 |
| ativelkov | Work is in progress here. Modeling the common metadata fileds. DB, migrations, API, all the stuff | 20:55 |
| TravT | \o/ | 20:55 |
| ativelkov | Will post first changesets soon and update the spec accordingly | 20:55 |
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| * jokke_ appalauds | 20:55 | |
| ativelkov | Got the idea about the in-plugin reference management | 20:56 |
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| ativelkov | For now I want only the static references to exist, however the plugins will get the interface to do the queries during artifact imports | 20:56 |
| markwash | ativelkov: do you think that approach will work out, at least initially? | 20:56 |
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| zhiyan1 | ativelkov: sound great, looking forward to view them | 20:57 |
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| markwash | ativelkov: okay, so for now you're saying, artifacts can resolve dynamic lookups to static during import | 20:57 |
| ativelkov | markwash: exatcly | 20:57 |
| markwash | okay | 20:57 |
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| ativelkov | Hope it should be fine for Heat | 20:58 |
| markwash | I might need to negotiate some breathing room around that, but I don't think you're moving in the wrong direction at all | 20:58 |
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| markwash | so I think we're in good shape | 20:58 |
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| markwash | s/need to/try to/ | 20:58 |
| markwash | :-) | 20:58 |
| ativelkov | If not, we'll have to provide a way for plugins to expose custom API methods | 20:58 |
| ativelkov | Which is doable but rises securty questions | 20:59 |
| * markwash nods | 20:59 | |
| markwash | okay, thanks folks! | 20:59 |
| jokke_ | -1 on that if possible | 20:59 |
| markwash | #topic open discussion | 20:59 |
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| markwash | 1 minute! | 20:59 |
| markwash | actually we don't usually have followers in this late timeslot | 20:59 |
| jokke_ | thanks markwash that was productive hour | 20:59 |
| markwash | just a bunch of people who need to go to bed :-) | 20:59 |
| zhiyan1 | markwash: i need some edu, to know how to enable auto-config-gen in gate | 21:00 |
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| zhiyan1 | let's move to glance irc room | 21:00 |
| ativelkov | Did we get any volunteer to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1315321 ? I remember it was discussed last week but didn't see the result | 21:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315321 in glance "image_size_cap not checked in v2" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:00 |
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| markwash | ativelkov: hmm, not yet | 21:01 |
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| markwash | thanks everybody | 21:01 |
| markwash | #endmeeting | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 21:01:37 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-07-10-20.00.html | 21:01 |
| zhiyan1 | thanks markwash | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-07-10-20.00.txt | 21:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-07-10-20.00.log.html | 21:01 |
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