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| tchaypo | Almost time for tripleo meeting! | 06:59 |
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| * tchaypo sets music to dance | 06:59 | |
| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 9 07:00:42 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tchaypo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 07:00 |
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| tchaypo | I don't know if anyone but me is here, so this might be a lot of fun | 07:01 |
| shadower | I'm here | 07:01 |
| greghaynes | O/ | 07:01 |
| * StevenK just got here | 07:01 | |
| pcrews | o/ | 07:01 |
| greghaynes | Although I might fall asleep at any moment ;) | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: if we hear snoring we'll know who to blame | 07:02 |
| StevenK | greghaynes: Pft, isn't it like 1400 in GST? | 07:02 |
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| greghaynes | Yes, siesta time. | 07:02 |
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| StevenK | Haha | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | Remember that anyone can use the link and info commands, not just the moderator - if you have something worth noting in the meeting minutes feel free to tag it | 07:03 |
| marios | hi guys | 07:03 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 07:03 |
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| tchaypo | Agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #topic bugs | 07:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:03 | |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 07:04 |
| tchaypo | I've taken a quick look = DIB has one critical, but it's fix-committed. We have 4 red in tripleo | 07:04 |
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| greghaynes | Looks like a revert got merged for that | 07:05 |
| greghaynes | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105480/ | 07:05 |
| greghaynes | So might be in need of re-importancing | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: the d-i-b one? | 07:06 |
| greghaynes | yes | 07:06 |
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| tchaypo | if I'm reading the bug correctly, 105480 is the fix | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | so fix-committed seems apropos | 07:07 |
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| greghaynes | ah, right ;) | 07:07 |
| greghaynes | its late, I have an excuse | 07:07 |
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| tchaypo | GheRivero: are you around? | 07:08 |
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| tchaypo | Bug #1316895 has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95151/ proposed, several months old | 07:09 |
| tchaypo | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95151/ has ben open to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1316985 for over a month, could do with some review action | 07:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316985 in tripleo "set -eu may spuriously break dkms module" [Critical,In progress] | 07:09 |
| tchaypo | I don't see much else to chase here so I propose we move on | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | #topic reviews | 07:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:10 | |
| tchaypo | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | Last week: | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 19:22:00 <lifeless> Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 19:22:00 <lifeless> Average wait time: 9 days, 10 hours, 55 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 19:22:00 <lifeless> 1st quartile wait time: 1 days, 6 hours, 51 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 19:22:00 <lifeless> Median wait time: 5 days, 18 hours, 17 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 19:22:00 <lifeless> 3rd quartile wait time: 13 days, 11 hours, 45 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | This week: | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | Average wait time: 9 days, 1 hours, 38 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 1st quartile wait time: 1 days, 15 hours, 34 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | Median wait time: 5 days, 23 hours, 37 minutes | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 9 days, 2 hours, 1 minutes | 07:11 |
| marios | same same i'd say | 07:12 |
| marios | apart from 3rd | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | #info 3rd quartile has dropped from 13d11h45m to 9d2h1m - hurrah! | 07:12 |
| tchaypo | #info other quartiles and median are unchanged | 07:12 |
| marios | i always forget which one we're interested in :) | 07:12 |
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| tchaypo | I'm confused by the difference between average and median. | 07:13 |
| marios | cos e.g. the avg wait time seems same to me | 07:13 |
| marios | right | 07:13 |
| tchaypo | Clearly average isn't median, it must be mean? so that would suggest a small number of reviews with very lengthy waits? | 07:13 |
| GheRivero | morning all. o/ | 07:13 |
| tchaypo | lo GheRivero | 07:13 |
| tchaypo | #info I think the stats suggest we now have a small number of very old reviews, which are rasing the average (mean, I assume) but not the median or 3rd quartile. I think. | 07:14 |
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| tchaypo | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt says lifeless has done 404 reviews in the last 90 days | 07:16 |
| greghaynes | wow | 07:16 |
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| tchaypo | greghaynes has done a measly 308 | 07:16 |
| StevenK | "measly" | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | #link http://www.stackalytics.com/report/reviews/tripleo-group/open | 07:17 |
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| tchaypo | #info the stackalytics graph shows most reviews getting hit within a day, but a long tail stretching out to 47 days | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: compared to lifeless | 07:17 |
| tchaypo | still more than any sane mortal | 07:18 |
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| tchaypo | Is there anything more to discuss here? | 07:19 |
| tchaypo | I think the stats show we're moving in the right direction but really need to nail some of the older reviews | 07:19 |
| tchaypo | Hrm. Looking at the TripleO Inbox Dashboard it seems to be sorted with most-recent-first | 07:20 |
| tchaypo | perhaps we could change that to encourage the oldest reviews to be looked at | 07:21 |
| greghaynes | +1 | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | Is there anyone who wants to take that on? | 07:21 |
| tchaypo | https://github.com/stackforge/gerrit-dash-creator/blob/master/dashboards/tripleo.dash seems to have the source for the link | 07:21 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: I can try to change it | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | not even actually sure if it's possible | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=536 | 07:22 |
| d0ugal | ah | 07:22 |
| tchaypo | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_evaluation | 07:23 |
| tchaypo | It is not possible to alter the sort order in which changes are listed.[3] Changes are listed by last update date, so the changes that have been neglected the longest are also the hardest to see. A feature request for parametrizing the sort order was accepted in 2010, but no progress has been made as of July 2012.[4]. | 07:24 |
| tchaypo | *sigh* | 07:24 |
| d0ugal | d'oh | 07:24 |
| tchaypo | okay, I don't think it's worth pursuing that | 07:24 |
| StevenK | We can't have nice things. | 07:24 |
| tchaypo | maybe it would be better to pursue a change in gertty? | 07:24 |
| tchaypo | gertty seems to sort by review number, which is not the same thing | 07:25 |
| tchaypo | #info It seems like we can't change the sort order on the dashboard because gerrit doesn't support sorting. Maybe gertty could be tweaked to show oldest-without-negative-review first? | 07:25 |
| tchaypo | I think we need to move on now, we're almost at halftime | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | so | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | #topic Projects needing releases | 07:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:26 | |
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| tchaypo | StevenK: I believe you had something to say about this? | 07:26 |
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| StevenK | Only inasmuch as it's a good thing, and we should totally do it. | 07:27 |
| greghaynes | haha | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | +1 | 07:27 |
| greghaynes | Well, we did get os-cloud-config released today | 07:27 |
| greghaynes | so whoever takes this might not need to do that one | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | is there anyone here who has the access rights to do the releases? | 07:27 |
| shadower | yea me | 07:28 |
| marios | tchaypo: haha was that you volunteering StevenK then? | 07:28 |
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| tchaypo | I don't believe stevenk has enough access to do the releases | 07:28 |
| * marios neither... didn't chase it up last time | 07:28 | |
| tchaypo | so unless he wants to hurry up and get them I think I'll volunteer shadower | 07:28 |
| shadower | yeah, lets | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | #action shadower to release all the things (but maybe not os-cloud-config) | 07:29 |
| shadower | but it'd be great if someone else from this meet time could do it too | 07:29 |
| shadower | I won't be here every time | 07:29 |
| shadower | hint hint | 07:29 |
| d0ugal | lol | 07:29 |
| greghaynes | ^ action | 07:29 |
| marios | shadower: i'm not clear, what are you hinting at? | 07:29 |
| greghaynes | someone who is around at this meeting time get access this week | 07:30 |
| greghaynes | #action someone who is around at this meeting time get access this week | 07:30 |
| tchaypo | #action some other people from this timezone to get themselves access so we're not reliant on shadower to be around every time | 07:30 |
| greghaynes | double action | 07:30 |
| tchaypo | nope, that's one of the things only the chair can do, i think | 07:30 |
| marios | is it a 'ping lifeless' job? | 07:30 |
| shadower | marios: yeah | 07:30 |
| marios | or, how do we get access? | 07:30 |
| marios | shadower: thanks, pretty sure i did last time | 07:30 |
| marios | shadower: but will try again | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | <3 marios | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | okay, next we have | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | #topic CD Cloud status | 07:31 |
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| tchaypo | A coalition of the thrilling (led by lifeless) has been working on code changes needed to VLAN support working so that we can bring up the HP regions | 07:32 |
| tchaypo | That's starting to get close - I *think* all the patches are prepared, we're just working out a few kinks | 07:32 |
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| tchaypo | Unless anyone eles has any news... | 07:33 |
| tchaypo | #info Code changes required to get VLAN support so we can get HP regions back online are nearing completion. | 07:34 |
| tchaypo | #topic CI | 07:34 |
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| tchaypo | I have no idea what's been happening here. | 07:35 |
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| tchaypo | bueller? bueller? | 07:36 |
| marios | qe ? | 07:37 |
| tchaypo | I think I'm just going to note that no-one had any updates | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | #info no-one had any updates | 07:39 |
| tchaypo | #topic Tuskar | 07:39 |
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| marios | anyone want to give an update? shadower ? template stuff from sbaker and the template munging from jay? | 07:41 |
| marios | i think the most pending issue was until now the specs landing which has now happened | 07:41 |
| d0ugal | Yeah, we are mostly busy starting implementations now | 07:41 |
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| shadower | yea, jdob started working on implementing the tuskar API stuff | 07:42 |
| marios | jcoufal: do you have link to latest UI wireframes handy? haven't followed those for a while | 07:42 |
| shadower | and stevebaker posted a series of patches converting THT to HOT | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | (please feel free to add hash-info tags to anything you want recorded in the notes ;) | 07:42 |
| shadower | if we could get some eyeballs on those, that would be fantastic | 07:42 |
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| tchaypo | #info Specs have landed, implementations are starting. jdob is working on tuskar API stuff, stevebaker, posted a series of patches converting THT to HOT - eyeballs on those would be fantastic | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | Moving on to a new topic | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | #topic specs | 07:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:45 | |
| greghaynes | ssl-pki: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103692/ | 07:45 |
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| greghaynes | That one id like to get merged soonish as its blocking a bunch of stuff | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tripleo-specs,n,z | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | #info 24 open specs (including WIPs) | 07:46 |
| greghaynes | so, eyeballs please :) | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: can you add tags? | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | link and info work for everyone | 07:46 |
| greghaynes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103692/ | 07:46 |
| greghaynes | #info please review ssl-pki patch so we can progress on HA work | 07:46 |
| * tchaypo is too lazy to copy and paste again | 07:47 | |
| tchaypo | thanks :) | 07:47 |
| jcoufal | marios: just uploading them, few minutes | 07:47 |
| marios | jcoufal: thanks mate, maybe do info here for the minutes if you get them in time | 07:47 |
| tchaypo | Any more about specs? | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | #topic one-off agenda items | 07:48 |
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| tchaypo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup | 07:48 |
| greghaynes | two weeks to meetup! | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | #info Please start adding agenda items to the agenda etherpad | 07:49 |
| jcoufal | latest wireframes: http://people.redhat.com/~jcoufal/openstack/juno/ | 07:49 |
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| jcoufal | I am writing an e-mail to the mailing list as well | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | #info jcoufal provides the latest wireframes for Tuskar | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | #link http://people.redhat.com/~jcoufal/openstack/juno/ | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | #topic open discussion | 07:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:51 | |
| tchaypo | okay, I have to run, so I'm going to wrap it up here | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | thanks for coming everyone | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 07:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 07:54:32 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-09-07.00.html | 07:54 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-09-07.00.txt | 07:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-07-09-07.00.log.html | 07:54 |
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| russellb | #startmeeting nfv | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 9 14:01:47 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 14:01 |
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| bauzas | \o | 14:01 |
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| sgordon | \o/ | 14:02 |
| russellb | hello! who's around to chat about NFV? | 14:02 |
| s3wong | hello | 14:02 |
| russellb | #chair sgordon | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: russellb sgordon | 14:02 |
| cloudon | hi | 14:02 |
| nijaba | o/ | 14:02 |
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| pcarver | hi | 14:02 |
| JohnHaller | hi | 14:02 |
| russellb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV | 14:02 |
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| jchapman | Hey | 14:02 |
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| russellb | agenda on this etherpad, feel free to add to it: | 14:02 |
| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
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| davidpc | hi | 14:02 |
| russellb | #topic review actions from last week | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review actions from last week (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:02 | |
| russellb | action: bauzas to finish up work to automatically keep a short URL up to date for NFV gerrit dashboard | 14:03 |
| russellb | bauzas: o/ | 14:03 |
| bauzas | russellb: 8o | 14:03 |
| bauzas | oops | 14:03 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:03 |
| russellb | so you made some nice script progress | 14:03 |
| russellb | and we have the dash auto updated now at http://nfv.russellbryant.net/ | 14:03 |
| russellb | #link http://nfv.russellbryant.net/ | 14:03 |
| bauzas | so, indeed, I finished the work but we have to land the script in there | 14:03 |
| bauzas | yes | 14:03 |
| russellb | what do i need to change | 14:04 |
| russellb | update to the latest so it writes out the html? | 14:04 |
| bauzas | one last thing is about embedding all the WSGI app inside the script so that wouldn't require to be hosted by an apache server | 14:04 |
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| * russellb doesn't mind just using apache personally, but if you want :) | 14:04 | |
| bauzas | yep, the last commit was about creating an HTML file with a jinja templce | 14:04 |
| bauzas | template | 14:04 |
| russellb | cool | 14:04 |
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| russellb | #action russellb to update bauzas' script on nfv.russellbryant.net | 14:05 |
| bauzas | well, take it as a homework :) | 14:05 |
| russellb | so, again, really appreciate your work | 14:05 |
| russellb | i've used it a lot in the last week to get reviews done | 14:05 |
| russellb | we got some blueprints approved and a bunch of patches too | 14:05 |
| bauzas | yeah | 14:05 |
| russellb | any other notes on the dashboard? | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | nope, you can modify the dashboard by editing nfv.dash | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | and put any queries you want | 14:06 |
| russellb | cool, what you have works well for me so far | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | that's also why I want to have it running on a WSGI app, so any people could run it on its own laptop | 14:06 |
| russellb | ok | 14:06 |
| sgordon | russellb, well if i wanted a pony | 14:06 |
| bauzas | :) | 14:07 |
| russellb | sgordon: figures you'd want a pony. | 14:07 |
| sgordon | russellb, i would say we could track patches attached to bugs tagged nfv | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | as well | 14:07 |
| sgordon | but there aren't actually many in the tags atm anyway | 14:07 |
| sgordon | so a moot point | 14:07 |
| russellb | cool idea though | 14:07 |
| russellb | file a bug on the dashboard github project :) | 14:07 |
| sgordon | mwahaha | 14:07 |
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| russellb | or a pull request :-p | 14:07 |
| russellb | ok, moving on | 14:07 |
| russellb | #topic use cases | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "use cases (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:07 | |
| russellb | sgordon: you had this on the agenda? | 14:07 |
| sgordon | only if someone has something to talk about | 14:08 |
| sgordon | i dont think we have looked at this much in the last 1-2 weeks | 14:08 |
| russellb | right | 14:08 |
| sgordon | there was an additional example provided via the ML I have not wikified yet | 14:08 |
| russellb | have a link? | 14:08 |
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| russellb | and anyone willing to volunteer to wiki-ify the new use case? | 14:08 |
| cloudon | It was from me, so I can dfo it | 14:09 |
| cloudon | Link is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/038556.html | 14:09 |
| sgordon | yeah that one! | 14:09 |
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| cloudon | That gives specific examples of a control plane & data plane use case, linking to over a dozen blueprints... | 14:10 |
| russellb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/038556.html | 14:10 |
| cloudon | ...do people think that's enough for now, or are there important gaps they didn't cover? | 14:10 |
| russellb | #action cloudon to add newest use case to the wiki | 14:10 |
| russellb | i think that's great coverage | 14:10 |
| russellb | IMO.. | 14:10 |
| sgordon | cloudon, i think for where we are in the cycle it's great | 14:11 |
| cloudon | cool | 14:11 |
| russellb | thanks for the help! | 14:11 |
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| russellb | anything else on use cases? | 14:11 |
| cloudon | I need to follow up with bauzas over group anti-affinity concept I raised | 14:11 |
| russellb | ah yes, that's a good one | 14:12 |
| russellb | maybe we should capture it on the wiki under "dev not yet started" | 14:12 |
| russellb | that's an empty section for now | 14:12 |
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| russellb | but we should track ideas | 14:12 |
| russellb | #topic blueprints | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:12 | |
| russellb | so first, some very important dates to be aware of | 14:12 |
| cloudon | Let me sync up as not clear whether it's a gap or has already been addressed - but agree with principle of tracking ideas | 14:12 |
| russellb | projects are setting some deadlines for juno | 14:12 |
| russellb | for neutron, specs must be posted by tomorrow (july 10) | 14:13 |
| russellb | and approved by july 20 | 14:13 |
| russellb | for nova, the deadline to post was last week | 14:13 |
| russellb | and deadline for *approval* is tomorrow (july 10) | 14:13 |
| russellb | so, last call to get stuff approved for juno for nova | 14:13 |
| sgordon | yeah | 14:13 |
| russellb | and on that note, we got some specs approved int he last week | 14:13 |
| bauzas | cloudon: sure | 14:13 |
| russellb | "2 interfaces 1 net" - https://review.openstack.org/97716 | 14:13 |
| russellb | "Virt driver large page allocation for guest RAM" - https://review.openstack.org/93653 | 14:13 |
| russellb | yay! | 14:13 |
| sgordon | in particular there are still a lot of specs tracked by this group that need iteration by the owner | 14:14 |
| sgordon | though looks like a number were turned over in the last week which is great | 14:14 |
| russellb | and we had one blueprint get fully implemented (patches merged) in the last week - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/virt-driver-vcpu-topology | 14:14 |
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| bauzas | russellb: I'm wondering if it's worth putting the approved bps for Juno in the dashboard so we keep track of them | 14:15 |
| russellb | bauzas: yes, that's a good idea | 14:15 |
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| russellb | bauzas: a query for merged | 14:15 |
| bauzas | russellb: I mean, follow the approved topics | 14:15 |
| russellb | that's already covered right? | 14:15 |
| russellb | for any topic, not just approved, but that's OK | 14:16 |
| bauzas | russellb: so we know we're not tempted to review other patches whose spec hasn't yet been validated | 14:16 |
| russellb | would be nice to have a query for the patches and specs that are merged though | 14:16 |
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| russellb | sure, splitting out the approved would be helpful | 14:16 |
| bauzas | russellb: nope, I mean, I'm scraping all the patches related in the wiki | 14:16 |
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| russellb | bauzas: random thought ... you could make this script a little more generic, so it could be pointed at *any* wiki page, so other teams could do a similar thing :) | 14:17 |
| bauzas | russellb: we should probably also add a query for patches in nova/neutron whose spec has been validated with same topic name | 14:17 |
| russellb | works for me | 14:17 |
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| bauzas | russellb: people just have to override the Scraper module :) | 14:17 |
| bauzas | russellb: and do whatever they want with wikis or othes | 14:18 |
| * russellb nods | 14:18 | |
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| russellb | any specific blueprints anyone wants to cover? | 14:18 |
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| russellb | looks like there's at least 1 nova spec without negative feedback i need to review today | 14:19 |
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| russellb | #topic open discussion | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:19 | |
| russellb | alrighty, any other topics for today? | 14:19 |
| russellb | i think we're at the point of the cycle where there's less planning to do | 14:19 |
| russellb | and more execution needed | 14:19 |
| russellb | so less to talk about here | 14:19 |
| bauzas | :) | 14:19 |
| russellb | planning will need to ramp back up as we approach the K cycle | 14:20 |
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| russellb | nothing wrong with short meetings in the meantime, of course | 14:20 |
| sgordon | yeah | 14:20 |
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| russellb | thanks everyone, have a nice day! | 14:21 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:21 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 14:21:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:21 |
| cloudon | cheers | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-07-09-14.01.html | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-07-09-14.01.txt | 14:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-07-09-14.01.log.html | 14:21 |
| TapioTallgren | Bye | 14:21 |
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| Swami | hi everyone | 15:00 |
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| xuhanp | hello | 15:00 |
| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 9 15:01:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: distributed_virtual_router)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:01 |
| Swami | xuhanp: hi | 15:01 |
| Swami | #info Back from vacation | 15:01 |
| Swami | no more disconnects or power cuts. | 15:01 |
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| Swami | armax: is busy with an another meeting so may not be able to join the discussion | 15:02 |
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| armax | armax: I’ll try to chip in if you guys need me | 15:03 |
| Swami | #topic L3_Plugin Status | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L3_Plugin Status (Meeting topic: distributed_virtual_router)" | 15:03 | |
| Swami | armax: thanks, will ping you if I need you. | 15:03 |
| Swami | L3_Plugin is up there for review and I hope most of the review comments have been addressed. | 15:03 |
| Swami | It had gone through lot of reviews. | 15:04 |
| Swami | There was one item that need to be addressed. | 15:04 |
| Swami | Router migration or convertion. | 15:04 |
| Swami | Today the plugin supports migrating a centralized router to a distributed router, but the underlying scheduler code does not handle it right. | 15:05 |
| Swami | So we have been thinking about for time being to raise "NotImplementedError" from the plugin side. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | Also we have been looking to solve this problem from the scheduler. | 15:06 |
| Swami | I had some offline discussions with Murali on the scheduler requirement to perform the migration. | 15:06 |
| Swami | The scheduler should be in a position to identify if it is regular router update or a router migration/conversion. | 15:07 |
| Swami | Here is my thought on this. | 15:08 |
| Swami | Probably it might be helpful to add a flag in the extraattributes table to include the migration identifier. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | similar to "migration": central-to-distributed or distributed-to-central | 15:09 |
| Swami | Any suggestions!! | 15:10 |
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| Swami | If the migration: attribute is null, it would considered a regular update and there is no need for the scheduler to reschedule the router. | 15:11 |
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| Swami | But if the migration: attribute has a value, then the scheduler can take action on rescheduling the router and also at the same time safely removing the old namespace from the legacy l3 agent. | 15:11 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i think for now we should raise a NotImplementedError on detecting a conversion | 15:12 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: agreed. | 15:13 |
| viveknarasimhan | we have to brainstorm further on all use-cases before we attempt to change code | 15:13 |
| Swami | But at the same time, if this flag is required for the scheduler to take the necessary action, we just add it to the plugin and still include the "NotImplementedError". | 15:13 |
| viveknarasimhan | basically we will allow manual conversion where router is deleted and recreated in its entirety as distributed router by the admin | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | all auto-conversions (by router-update) command we return 'NotImplemented' | 15:14 |
| Swami | So later we don't need to change the plugin code. | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | we will figure out what changes need to go into l3_dvrscheduler and l3_agentscheduler and also any changes to l3-agent | 15:14 |
| viveknarasimhan | and then we can know the scope of changes to attack this | 15:14 |
| Swami | vivek: I agree with you that there are more use cases that we need to validate and test before we can comfortably claim that we support the migration. | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | yeah, basic sheet code can be in plugin | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | but breadth of functionality will not be done until it is scoped fully | 15:15 |
| xuhanp | Swami and vivek, when you guys saying that raising a NotImplementedError, you mean the conversion from legacy to dvr, right? | 15:15 |
| viveknarasimhan | yes legacy to dvr | 15:15 |
| xuhanp | does it includes enable SNAT function? | 15:15 |
| xuhanp | is that allowed? | 15:16 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Yes | 15:16 |
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| Swami | xuhanp: snat is already supported and allowed. | 15:16 |
| xuhanp | I mean from a DVR router not having dvr_SNAT enabled updated to dvr_snat enabled. | 15:16 |
| xuhanp | this is allowed, right? | 15:16 |
| xuhanp | this requires re-scheduling as well? | 15:17 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Yes this is allowed. | 15:17 |
| xuhanp | Swami, got it. Thanks | 15:17 |
| Swami | xuhanp: but the snat service migration from one service node to another is not supported yet. | 15:17 |
| xuhanp | Swami, how can that be done by API? | 15:18 |
| xuhanp | or there is no API available too? | 15:18 |
| Swami | xuhanp: we were planning to support an API to associate the snat service with an l3-agent that is running in the service node. | 15:19 |
| xuhanp | Swami, got it. | 15:19 |
| Swami | once we have the support for this feature we will implement the API. | 15:19 |
| xuhanp | Swami, I am happy to help it if you need | 15:20 |
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| Swami | xuhanp: sure, I will ping you. | 15:20 |
| xuhanp | Swami, thanks | 15:20 |
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| Swami | That's all I had on the plugin side. | 15:21 |
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| Swami | Otherwise the plugin looks good. | 15:21 |
| Swami | since vivek is here, I will move on to L2 . | 15:22 |
| Swami | #topic DVR L2/Plugin/agent | 15:22 |
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| Swami | vivek: are you there | 15:23 |
| Swami | can you provide any updates on the L2 side. | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | on the L2 side | 15:23 |
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| viveknarasimhan | the upstream patches are under review | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | all the 4 of them | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | we have addressed review comments | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | we are looking forward to merge after acceptance by neutron core team | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | thanks to xuhan for testing the patches and reporting issues | 15:25 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/neutron-ovs-dvr,n,z | 15:25 |
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| viveknarasimhan | that crept in due to rebase issues | 15:25 |
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| Swami | vivek: anything else | 15:26 |
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| Swami | murali: hi | 15:26 |
| Murali | Hi Swami | 15:27 |
| Swami | #topic DVR Scheduler | 15:27 |
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| Swami | murali: can you provide an update on the DVR scheduler | 15:27 |
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| Murali | Scheduler almost all review comments are addressed | 15:27 |
| Murali | and now armando simplfiying the usuage of the flag to findout the distributed agent and centralised agent | 15:28 |
| Murali | The pending task is migration | 15:28 |
| Murali | centralised to distributed and distributed to centralised | 15:29 |
| Swami | murali: we just briefly touch based on the migration requirements | 15:29 |
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| Murali | ok | 15:30 |
| Murali | any conclusion ? | 15:30 |
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| Murali | how are dealing it in plugin side? | 15:30 |
| Swami | murali: It would be great if you could come up with a list of use cases for the migration and let me know your requirements on the plugin side to support the migration path. | 15:30 |
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| Swami | from the discussion today, we have not come to any conclusion, but we wanted to get all the use case for the migration. | 15:31 |
| Murali | I need the information about the previous router status. which means whether it is distributed or centralised | 15:31 |
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| Swami | Use case 1: Convert a router without snat to distributed. | 15:32 |
| Swami | Use case 2: Convert a router with snat to distribtued | 15:32 |
| Swami | First let us only target the "legacy to distributed" migration. | 15:32 |
| Murali | ok | 15:33 |
| viveknarasimhan | Swami/Murali: sorry to interrupt, need to leave the meeting. Will catch up later. Updated blueprint posted for review here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105659 | 15:33 |
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| Swami | As far as my discussion with you, the only additional information that you need is the transition state of the router. | 15:33 |
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| Swami | But in your use case walk through if you have any other requirements feel free to let me know. | 15:34 |
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| Swami | vivek: thanks | 15:34 |
| Murali | yes Swami. It would be good if you add one more variable in router dict to say that it is in migration state | 15:34 |
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| Murali | then scheduler can unbind the existing leagcy and try to bind to distributed agents if nay in the given nodes | 15:35 |
| Swami | murali: Yes I suggested a "string" attribute that says "legacy-to-distributed" or "distributed-to-legacy". If the string attribute is null, then no migration | 15:35 |
| Swami | I will discuss further with Armando and let you know. | 15:36 |
| Murali | thats good. then it easy for scheduler to handle the migration both wise | 15:36 |
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| Murali | But as you said let us target only first leagcy-to-dist | 15:36 |
| Swami | The attribute name can be "migration-state" or similar. | 15:37 |
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| Swami | murali: Yes we are going to target only 'legacy-to-distributed' first. | 15:37 |
| Murali | Let try sometime tomorrow | 15:37 |
| Murali | please add the attribute in plugin and let me know and i can take-it up tomorrow | 15:38 |
| Swami | murali: thanks | 15:38 |
| Swami | #topic L3 agent | 15:38 |
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| Swami | Mike is on vacation this week. | 15:39 |
| Swami | L3 agent patch is also under review. | 15:40 |
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| Swami | carl is currently testing it, he will let us know the status. | 15:40 |
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| Swami | #topic Services | 15:41 |
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| Swami | There was a discussion on the FWaaS and the DVR issues recently in the ML and the Neutron team meeting. | 15:42 |
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| Swami | I am not sure if Yi is here in this meeting, but we will be having an ongoing discussion with the FWaaS team to resolve the problem. | 15:42 |
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| Swami | But in the short term, the Neutron team have decided to document that FWaaS may have issues with the DVR, if we as a team cannot fix this problem. | 15:43 |
| Swami | I will further have a discussion with the FWaaS team today. | 15:44 |
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| Swami | Again all the legacy Services need to addressed with the DVR including the VPNaaS, FWaaS and LBaaS. | 15:44 |
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| Swami | But we need to focus on the services once we have the base DVR up running and testable. | 15:45 |
| Swami | Hope this helps. | 15:45 |
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| Swami | #topic DVR_testing | 15:45 |
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| Swami | Neutron team is working on including a multi node setup to test the DVR. | 15:46 |
| Swami | This work might be taken up in the mid-cyle meetup that is held from today to friday. | 15:46 |
| Swami | #topic Open Discussion | 15:47 |
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| Swami | Any items for open discussion please let me know. | 15:47 |
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| Swami | If there are no other topics, then I will end the meeting. | 15:48 |
| Swami | Thanks everyone for joining the meeting. | 15:49 |
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| Swami | see you all next week. | 15:49 |
| Swami | bye | 15:49 |
| Murali | ok bye | 15:49 |
| Swami | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 15:49:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-07-09-15.01.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-07-09-15.01.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-07-09-15.01.log.html | 15:49 |
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| shivharis | FYI: ML2 meeting has been cancelled due to Mid-cycle sprint | 16:00 |
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| yamamoto | mmm late notice | 16:01 |
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| shivharis | FYI: ML2 meeting has been cancelled due to Mid-cycle sprint | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis yamamoto: sorry for the late notice guys | 16:07 |
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| yamamoto | np | 16:08 |
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| shivharis | Sukhdev: np, now review my bp!! | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: sure | 16:08 |
| yamamoto | good night | 16:08 |
| shivharis | Sukhdev: thx, bye | 16:09 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 9 17:00:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| Kiall | Heya - Who's here? | 17:00 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:00 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:00 |
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| rjrjr_ | here | 17:00 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:00 |
| jaycaz | i'm here! | 17:00 |
| timsim | hey | 17:00 |
| eankutse | o/ | 17:00 |
| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | So - None recorded - was anything not recorded? | 17:01 |
| mugsie | dont think so | 17:01 |
| Kiall | Okay - Easy :) | 17:01 |
| Kiall | #topic Release Management Changes | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | So - I have a weekly 1:1 with ttx now, and one of things we discussed was him taking over our release management | 17:02 |
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| eankutse | who is ttx? | 17:02 |
| Kiall | So - Starting with juno-2 he'll be handling our releases | 17:02 |
| Kiall | Thierry - OpenStack Release Manager | 17:02 |
| timsim | Cool. | 17:02 |
| eankutse | thx | 17:02 |
| Kiall | So - What does that mean for us? | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Well - No more missed/late releases :) | 17:03 |
| Kiall | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 17:03 |
| eankutse | cool :-) | 17:03 |
| Kiall | juno-2 is due July 24th | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | 2 weeks and 1 day away | 17:03 |
| Kiall | We'll want to focus on items which are important for that release, and are achievable for that date | 17:04 |
| Kiall | I'd personally like to see all of jaycaz's doc fixes/changes merged, and betsy's RecordSet API change merged. | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | Does anyone have any other items they think we we should push for in j2? | 17:05 |
| mugsie | Kiall: does that mean he is taking over the targeting of bp / bugs as well? | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | or do we target, and he deals with them as they go forward? | 17:05 |
| Kiall | mugsie: no, he'll mark them "Fix Released" etc | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | k | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | but it's up to us to triage and target | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Speaking of that... | 17:05 |
| Kiall | We're doing it wrong :) | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1319112 | 17:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1319112 in python-designateclient "Admins can't see all domains in domain-list" [High,Triaged] | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | In the table at the top, it should not be "Status tracked in Juno" | 17:06 |
| Kiall | there's a button we press to make that happen.. We should stop | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | yeah - that is only if we are backporting a fix isnt it? | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | Yea, that's only for targeting to older releases | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | So - anyone have any other items they think we we should push for in j2? | 17:07 |
| betsy | I’m almost finished porting over the reports, but not a big deal if it doesn’t get in | 17:07 |
| Kiall | betsy: cool :) | 17:07 |
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| vinod1 | what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/mdns-designate-mdns-functional | 17:08 |
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| vinod1 | I am close to getting done with it | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | vinod1: if you think you'll have in done in the next 1.5 weeks or so - Yea, I think it's worth including. | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | yes i will have it done - at least submitted for review - the rest is up to you :-) | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | Great - OK | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | Let's move on then, and we'll circle back to j2 tasks again next week. (I'd actually like to make that a standing agenda item from now on) | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | #topic Division of labor for server pools | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | vinod1 / mugsie - over to you guys | 17:10 |
| mugsie | yup - I asked for people to let me know if they were interested | 17:10 |
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| vinod1 | I wanted to check if the server pools was ready to be divided up? I know rjrjr mentioned earlier that they would be working on it | 17:10 |
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| betsy | Oh, I’m interested BTW | 17:11 |
| mugsie | i have had one responce - rjrjr_ & I updated the work items in the review | 17:11 |
| betsy | Sorry. Just realized I never responded to your email. | 17:11 |
| mugsie | np | 17:11 |
| mugsie | I have an idea for how we do it, and it is going ot be part of the sub team stuff I will be sending out tonight | 17:12 |
| vinod1 | thanks for the update mugsie - are any of the server pool items blocked by mdns? | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101298/ | 17:12 |
| mugsie | some of it is | 17:12 |
| mugsie | but there is more than enough stuff for us to do before | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | Yea, I think mdns is close enough that starting pools stuff wouldn't be wasted | 17:13 |
| mugsie | nope | 17:13 |
| mugsie | thing like the basic services etc | 17:13 |
| mugsie | can be started, and we can plug in mdns stuff as it comes along | 17:13 |
| timsim | Cool, so email coming this evening, and we'll get started on it in parallel. | 17:15 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:15 |
| betsy | cool | 17:15 |
| rjrjr_ | cool. 8^) | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: the BP list the workitems, but they don't seem to be in any particular order. Maybe reordering into the order they can be started? | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | Or I suppose that's what the LP graph is for | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | Testing? | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Whey - working again | 17:18 |
| mugsie | sorry - back | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Seems the internet fell over for a minute | 17:18 |
| mugsie | yeah, my sshd session died as well | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Okay - Unless there's anything else, we'll move on | 17:18 |
| timsim | Alright, I think we can move on. You didn't miss anything :) | 17:18 |
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| Kiall | #topic SOA records - making them visible and editable in v2 | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/soa-records | 17:19 |
| betsy | So, I apologize — I didn’t see the bp for this | 17:19 |
| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100901/ | 17:19 |
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| betsy | But I started thinking about it... | 17:19 |
| Kiall | betsy: no problem :) | 17:19 |
| betsy | And I don’t see how the SOA record can be represented as a recordset. There’s no overlappying data between the two | 17:20 |
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| betsy | I was thinking, the necessary fields could be edited through domains | 17:20 |
| betsy | Since that’s where they’re stored | 17:20 |
| betsy | And we make an object with all the values to pass to mdns | 17:20 |
| Kiall | So, my BP and your etherpad suggest different approaches. | 17:21 |
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| betsy | Right. I should have made the comments in the bp | 17:21 |
| betsy | But didn’t see it | 17:21 |
| betsy | Only saw the bug to make SOA and NS records visible in v2 | 17:21 |
| betsy | So, you’re right. I’m suggesting a different approach | 17:22 |
| Kiall | My approach was to have fields editable on the domain (in the future), and generate the SOA Record/RecordSet when changes are made to the Domain row. That way, mDNS and the API simply sees another record. | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | And - We introduce a "read-only" flag on recordsets, preventing customers from editing that RRSet directly | 17:22 |
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| betsy | So just put all the SOA fields — refresh, retry, expire, etc in the data field? | 17:23 |
| vinod1 | kiall: with your approach would the api for domains be altered to include the soa information? | 17:23 |
| Kiall | vinod1: I didn't address that in my BP, leaving that part for another BP. | 17:23 |
| Kiall | But - In theory, they could just be exposed and made editable. | 17:23 |
| Kiall | Any change would cause Designate to internally regenerate the SOA record | 17:24 |
| betsy | And stored in the Recordset/Records table? | 17:24 |
| Kiall | Yes - Alongside the RRSets/Records | 17:24 |
| Kiall | Which means no special casing is needed in the backends/mDNS for it - and the API can be updated to support a generic "read-only" flag on RRSets | 17:25 |
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| eankutse | That sounds good | 17:25 |
| betsy | So everything goes in the data field? | 17:25 |
| eankutse | Kiall: who would be allowed to set the "read-only" flag? | 17:26 |
| Kiall | betsy: Yes, a copy of the data anyway, and eventually when we split the records table into per-type tables, each component would be in it's own column | 17:26 |
| vinod1 | so when and how would the SOA rrset be modified if it is marked as read only? | 17:26 |
| Kiall | eankutse: Designate itself - i.e. the system. | 17:27 |
| eankutse | ok | 17:27 |
| betsy | So we’ll be storing the same data in multiple db tables | 17:27 |
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| betsy | vinod1: thru changes to the domain | 17:27 |
| Kiall | betsy: yea, there's advantages and disadvantages to that :) 2 copies of the data vs having anything that needs the SOA to special case building it up | 17:27 |
| betsy | Seems easy enough to write a call to create an internal only SOA record | 17:28 |
| Kiall | We read-only would apply to end users (and admins..) Designate, internally, would be able to regenerate the SOA record as changes to the Domain row are made | 17:28 |
| Kiall | betsy: yea, I hope so :) | 17:28 |
| betsy | kiall: I mean without actually storing it in the recordset table | 17:29 |
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| betsy | recordset/records tables | 17:29 |
| betsy | What’s the advance to storing it in the tables rather than creating it every time? | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Oh - Well, then mDNS and the API and the backends would have to do a "Get me all records and the Domain, then, Build a pseudo SOA record and merge it into the records | 17:29 |
| Kiall | vs simply "Get me the records" | 17:30 |
| betsy | Central could have a call that did that | 17:30 |
| Kiall | We could, but things start getting real complex with paging and sorting etc | 17:30 |
| betsy | I guess my db background is just objecting to having the data stored in two places | 17:30 |
| Kiall | Does the SOA record, when sort by record.type is applied, appear on page 1, 2 or 8? etc | 17:31 |
| betsy | But I can live with it if that’s what we want to do | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Well - Here's another option.. | 17:31 |
| mugsie | de-normalisation isn't always a bad thing ;) | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Have the RRSet be the home for it, and remove them from the Domain altogether? | 17:31 |
| betsy | I was thinking it would be a separate call to get the SOA apart from the other records | 17:31 |
| rjrjr_ | kiall: i agree with that. | 17:31 |
| betsy | No. Don’t put them in the recordset/records | 17:32 |
| Kiall | betsy: yea, but on which page of the API results should you make that call on? And, where in the current page? Should it be at the start/middle/end of the page etc? | 17:32 |
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| betsy | True. Ok. | 17:32 |
| vinod1 | kiall: another option - we could remove it from the domain, once we have the different records in their own tables - so that it is easier to get to the various soa fields | 17:33 |
| Kiall | betsy: Well .. Storing them on the domain is a little weird, since they are only used as part of the SOA.. But, I think that's a bigger change | 17:33 |
| Kiall | vinod1: ++ | 17:33 |
| rjrjr_ | SOA is just a record type. it should be in the recordset/record tables. | 17:33 |
| betsy | kiall: _1 | 17:33 |
| betsy | +1 | 17:33 |
| Kiall | I thought that was a -1 ;) | 17:33 |
| betsy | Nope :D | 17:33 |
| Kiall | Either way - I think a good first step is to simply expose the record in the API - read only - with the source of truth being the domains table | 17:34 |
| betsy | Agreed | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | the source of truth can then be moved, and eventually, the access from the "domain" resource can be removed if we decide we want to do that | 17:34 |
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| Kiall | Okay .. If there is nothing else, let's move on? | 17:35 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:36 |
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| Kiall | I have 2 today that didn't warrant a "whole agenda item"... :) | 17:36 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: hows that oslosphinx stuff looking? Has the second change merged? | 17:36 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:36 |
| Kiall | and - have you talked to dhellmann about maybe getting a final release :D | 17:37 |
| mugsie | tried to get hold of dhellmann yesterday, but he wasnt around | 17:37 |
| mugsie | i think he is on atm actually | 17:37 |
| mugsie | will grab him after this | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Maybe he'll see our mentions :) | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Okay - Well, if you can keep on top of it :) | 17:38 |
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| mugsie | yup | 17:38 |
| Kiall | The second I had was - betsy's recordset change and my update's should use objects change. | 17:38 |
| Kiall | They conflict like hell. | 17:38 |
| mugsie | haha | 17:38 |
| betsy | how’s that going? | 17:38 |
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| Kiall | betsy: I spent almost all day fighting a fire today, but I intent on having it rebased before you wake up tomorrow | 17:39 |
| Kiall | intend* | 17:39 |
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| betsy | Nice | 17:39 |
| betsy | I’ll be very impressed | 17:39 |
| Kiall | I think the biggest issue is that the obejcts aren't playing nice with having recordset.records = [{},{},{}] | 17:39 |
| vinod1 | kiall: there are a bunch of object changes for review - do you want them approved and merged if necessary or wait till you try to get the conflicts resolved? | 17:39 |
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| Kiall | So - I started down this route - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105021/7 combined with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105038/ | 17:40 |
| vinod1 | if you can −1 the changes that you do not want merged - that would be helpful | 17:40 |
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| Kiall | That would do the recordset.records = [] in a "Objects friendly way", which would hopefully make it easier.. | 17:41 |
| Kiall | vinod1: I think I've -2'd everything I don't think is ready | 17:41 |
| vinod1 | thanks kiall | 17:41 |
| Kiall | betsy: did you have a look at either of those reviews of out curisoity? | 17:42 |
| betsy | No, but I can today | 17:42 |
| Kiall | They attempted to get the notion of a "ListObject" in, and the second attempted to make the storage layer play nice with that and populate recordset.records = .. | 17:42 |
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| betsy | Okay. Let me take a look | 17:43 |
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| Kiall | I was hoping it would be easier, then with that being "objects" friendly your code would be easier to rebase.. I had to give up at the time though.. it was midnight ;) | 17:43 |
| Kiall | Anyway - That's it from me.. | 17:44 |
| Kiall | Anyone else have an off-agenda item? | 17:44 |
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| jaycaz | i do | 17:44 |
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| jaycaz | there's a small feature that I was looking to implement but I wanted to see what you guys thought of it | 17:45 |
| jaycaz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/zone-and-record-totalcount | 17:45 |
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| jaycaz | It's about adding a totalEntries value to the view for zones and recordsets that will list the total number of items, even when the collection is paginated | 17:45 |
| Kiall | From memory, we talked about that before.. And wrote it off as too big a change, as it would have required changes at every level in order to pass the info back out to to the API | 17:46 |
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| Kiall | But - Funny enough - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105021/7 gives us that place :) | 17:46 |
| Kiall | Now, since we would be returning our own objects rather than python lists, we have somewhere to "hold" that info | 17:47 |
| jaycaz | are you sure it's a really big change? don't the count_domains and count_recordsets methods help with that? | 17:47 |
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| betsy | those are in the reports extenstion that I’m porting over to v2 | 17:47 |
| Kiall | Well, an example would have been.. find_recordsets() - that currently returns a simple list, and it would have had to be updated to support returning (metadata, list) | 17:47 |
| Kiall | which would have to happen at every level of the stack | 17:48 |
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| Kiall | 100's of places | 17:48 |
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| Kiall | But... If we merged #105021 - that wouldn't be necessary anymore, and is one of the things I really like about the Objects | 17:48 |
| Kiall | they save us from all that crap :) | 17:48 |
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| Kiall | e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105021/7/designate/objects/domain.py | 17:49 |
| Kiall | There's the "DomainList" class, which is the return from the storage layer when you do a find_domains() - more info + methods can be added to the ListBaseObject to handle things like totalCount, currentOffset etc | 17:49 |
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| timsim | jaycaz has a WIP thing he has as a POC, and just looking at it on his computer real quick, it seems to work. He gets the information in the controller and passes it to the view to return. Might be inefficient or something. | 17:50 |
| Kiall | Anyway - in case it's not obvious - I'd like to see that kinda info exposed, so long as we can do it clenly. | 17:50 |
| Kiall | cleanly* | 17:51 |
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| jaycaz | ah, makes sense | 17:51 |
| Kiall | So - API makes two calls to central? 1 for the results, 1 for the counts? | 17:51 |
| jaycaz | yes, that's what I have as a prototype, anyway | 17:51 |
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| jaycaz | not sure if that counts as clean… | 17:52 |
| timsim | probably not :p | 17:52 |
| Kiall | :D | 17:52 |
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| jaycaz | well, if you think it's worth looking into, I'd be glad to take it on | 17:52 |
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| jaycaz | otherwise, I could look into other features to implement | 17:52 |
| Kiall | jaycaz: I could talk to you after about how that might work with #105021 ? It's actually one of the things I had in my head while writing that | 17:52 |
| Kiall | But only made allowances, didn't implement it | 17:53 |
| Kiall | (since we have 5 mins left, want to open to anyone else's topics!) | 17:53 |
| rjrjr_ | are we still meeting at the end of July? | 17:53 |
| jaycaz | Kiall: sure thing, I'd be glad to talk about it | 17:53 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: ah yes, you missed last week's meet | 17:53 |
| Kiall | we are - can you make it? | 17:53 |
| rjrjr_ | i can. just need to know when and where. | 17:53 |
| Kiall | Let me dig out the email | 17:54 |
| rjrjr_ | did you send out email? | 17:54 |
| Kiall | #topic http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039509.html | 17:54 |
| mugsie | rjrjr_: I did | 17:54 |
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| Kiall | lol | 17:54 |
| Kiall | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039509.html | 17:54 |
| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:54 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr_: not mentioned in the email - but we're planning to do a dinner on Sunday 27th | 17:55 |
| rjrjr_ | mugsie: can you resend me the email? i missed it. | 17:55 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: it was to the mailing list - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/039509.html | 17:55 |
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| eankutse | BTW, eankutse will be remote | 17:55 |
| rjrjr_ | need to sign up for that. 8^) | 17:55 |
| Kiall | :D | 17:55 |
| mugsie | rjrjr_: I will forward ti on to you | 17:55 |
| timsim | vinod1 and I will be there. | 17:55 |
| Kiall | and myself / mugsie | 17:56 |
| mugsie | cool - betsy you were remote weren't you? | 17:56 |
| betsy | yes | 17:56 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:56 |
| betsy | I’ll send you an email asking for an invite | 17:56 |
| betsy | for google hangouts | 17:57 |
| Kiall | Okay - Anything else? Clock is ticking :) | 17:57 |
| * Kiall takes that as a no | 17:57 | |
| * mugsie is good | 17:57 | |
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| eankutse | nothing | 17:57 |
| Kiall | jaycaz: give me 5 and I'll be back in #openstack-dns | 17:57 |
| rjrjr_ | i'm good. | 17:57 |
| jaycaz | Kiall: sure thing! | 17:58 |
| Kiall | Thanks all | 17:58 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 17:58:16 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-07-09-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-07-09-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-07-09-17.00.log.html | 17:58 |
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| SlickNik | Thanks Kiall | 17:59 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 9 18:00:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| SlickNik | Giving folks a few minutes to trickle in. | 18:01 |
| kevinconway | o/ | 18:01 |
| tvoran | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | Agenda at: | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:01 |
| amrith | ola! | 18:01 |
| schang | o/ | 18:01 |
| boblebauce | Hi | 18:02 |
| vipul | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Notes from last meeting at: | 18:02 |
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| SlickNik | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-07-02-18.00.html | 18:02 |
| mattgriffin | o/ | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | FYI: Heard from the folks at RAX — there's a critical internal meeting that's scheduled at the same time as this, so a lot of them are unable to attend this morning. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | Let's get started. | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | #topic Action Items | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | SlickNik to update the dev-docs with build / test process updates. | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | I've started making updates to the dev-docs, but there are other things we need to cover here as well. We'll delve into that discussion in a little bit when we talk about the doc scrub. | 18:05 |
| cp16net | i made it back | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | SlickNik update jenkins: please remove JENKINS_HOME/scm-sync-configuration.*.log files | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net: That one's done. :) | 18:06 |
| hub_cap | SlickNik: only for some people | 18:06 |
| hub_cap | the critical meeting | 18:06 |
| cp16net | <3 | 18:06 |
| cp16net | thats nice | 18:06 |
| esmute | o/ | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | hub_cap: Ahhh, okay. I misunderstood then. Good to have some of the rackers around. :) | 18:06 |
| cp16net | w0rd | 18:07 |
| SlickNik | #topic Scrub / Update Docs | 18:07 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-doc-items | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | So this is follow up from a ML item that came up earlier this week. | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | Some of our docs on openstack.org are somewhat "lacking" shall we just say. :) | 18:09 |
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| hub_cap | good word for it ;) | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | not the word id choose, but good nonetheless SlickNik | 18:10 |
| vipul | SlickNik: are you looking for people to sign up? | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | vipul: Yes, | 18:10 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I'll sign up for getting you the stuff around creating guest images | 18:10 |
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| amrith | do you want me to just stick my name next to it on etherpad? | 18:10 |
| vipul | SlickNik: put my name down for API docs.. did an update for HP, can reuse a lot of that | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: awesome thanks. Yes, please do update the etherpad for stuff that you're signing up for. | 18:11 |
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| amrith | wilco | 18:11 |
| mattgriffin | SlickNik, i'll float the need internally to see if i can get a taker | 18:11 |
| laurelm | SlickNik: I can add the swift requirement to the deployment doc (aka install doc) | 18:11 |
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| shayneburgess | SlickNik: feel free to sign me up for anything that is left over | 18:11 |
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| johnma | I would like to help but I am just starting out and not sure where or how I can help. | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | welcome and thanks for helping out | 18:12 |
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| esmute | I love it when i see so many volunteers :-) | 18:12 |
| vipul | johnma: maybe vetting that whatever docs we do have.. are accurate would be cool :) | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | johnma: Welcome! Awesome to have you on board. Would you like to help with giving the developer docs a test run once I have updates to them? | 18:12 |
| * amrith volunteers cp16net for many things ;) | 18:12 | |
| johnma | sure, I can do that | 18:13 |
| vipul | johnma: and filing bugs (or even fixing) as you run into stuff | 18:13 |
| hub_cap | yea i think cp16net needs to do stuff | 18:13 |
| cp16net | amrith: sounds like ebing volentold... | 18:13 |
| amrith | folks, don't remember that we also need people to read and review documents ;) | 18:13 |
| johnma | yes Vipul. Thank you. I will do that | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | Okay let's see what we have left on the etherpad. | 18:14 |
| amrith | "they too serve who only hangaround and review" - John Milton | 18:14 |
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| SlickNik | Anyone want to help with updating the config option help strings? | 18:15 |
| amrith | laurelm: may I put you down for the two places where swift are mentioned; deployment and manual trove install doc? | 18:15 |
| shayneburgess | SlickNik: You might want to assign a reviewer explicitly to each item as well - just a thought | 18:15 |
| laurelm | amrith: sure, thanks | 18:15 |
| peterstac | I've added stuff to the CLI doc generation tool so that trove-manage gets documented (still in review) | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | peterstac: Awesome thanks! | 18:15 |
| amrith | SlickNik, what's the deadline on these doc efforts? | 18:16 |
| peterstac | I need to improve the help text though, since that's pretty sparse :) | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | So for the cli option help strings, we just need to update them in https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/common/cfg.py. The plumbing to publish them from there is already in place. | 18:16 |
| SlickNik | peterstac: mind if I sign you up for it. | 18:16 |
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| peterstac | SlickNik: sure (was almost ready to do it anyways :) ) | 18:17 |
| SlickNik | amrith: I'd like to get most of the changes to fix the gaps we identified so far in by juno-2 | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: but I do understand that keeping the docs-up-to date needs to be more of an ongoing process. | 18:18 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: do you know where the help text is EVER used | 18:18 |
| cp16net | seems almost pointless | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | we def need to use DocImpact in our commits | 18:18 |
| amrith | SlickNik, understood but at least for a first pass, week of july 24th sounds good. | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | and start telling people to add it if they have an impact | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | that automagically creates a bug for the doc team (that of course the author can take ;) ) | 18:19 |
| cp16net | hub_cap: i've mentioned it a couple times in reviews | 18:19 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Yes, that sounds good (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule) | 18:19 |
| peterstac | cp16net: The help text is used to generate the official CLI documents | 18:19 |
| cp16net | for configurations? | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: It's used to generate http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/database-configuring-db.html | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: yes | 18:20 |
| cp16net | SlickNik: .... | 18:20 |
| cp16net | thats not what i undestood | 18:20 |
| cp16net | i understood from anne gentle that its taken from the configuration file | 18:21 |
| cp16net | not the python file | 18:21 |
| cp16net | which was REALLY odd to me | 18:21 |
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| vipul | seems like the description would have to come from the python file | 18:21 |
| cp16net | maybe i just read the convo wrong tho.. :_p | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | Oh, that's news to me. Will need to follow up and clarify this. | 18:22 |
| cp16net | possibly | 18:22 |
| cp16net | i think there is a benifit tho having some kind of doc string in the conf file tho | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net: yup, agreed. | 18:23 |
| cp16net | it always seemed weird to me having the help text string on the cfg options but it was never displayed anywhere | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | cp16net: I know that there's an oslo.config tool that can generate your conf files from your .cfg file. | 18:23 |
| cp16net | oh.. i might just be full of it.. :-P | 18:24 |
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| * hub_cap agrees w/ the last thing cp16net said | 18:24 | |
| cp16net | haha | 18:24 |
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| SlickNik | So you can potentially update the help strings in the code, and then run the tool to generate the sample confs (which should have descriptions based on the descriptions in cfg.py) | 18:25 |
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| SlickNik | peterstac: Is this something that you can help clarify? :) | 18:25 |
| cp16net | alright well i've derailed this a bit... | 18:25 |
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| glucas | there's a bug - 1315390 - where this came up, to generate the sample confs | 18:25 |
| cp16net | #1315390 | 18:26 |
| cp16net | hmm | 18:26 |
| cp16net | i thoguht that openstack bot would link it | 18:26 |
| cp16net | :-/ | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | cp16net: you need to post the LP url I believe. | 18:26 |
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| cp16net | i thought it looked it up or something | 18:27 |
| SlickNik | https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1315390 | 18:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315390 in trove "Clean up sample conf files" [Medium,Triaged] | 18:27 |
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| SlickNik | Anyhow, let me get some clarity around where the help strings are _actually_ being picked up from. I'll work with peterstac to get them updated in the right place then. | 18:28 |
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| peterstac | SlickNik: I haven't looked into the config stuff, but I can do some digging there | 18:29 |
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| SlickNik | peterstac: Thanks! | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | shayneburgess: You had a great point about assigning reviewers to the tasks as well. | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | Once we have the changes made, I'd like folks to go ahead and add links to the reviews to the etherpad as well. | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | And then let's revisit this during the next meeting and we can assign reviewers to the reviews we have. | 18:30 |
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| SlickNik | I'll update the etherpad and create a section for reviews for each of the tasks where we can track those. | 18:31 |
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| SlickNik | okay looking at the document, it looks mostly full and pretty good. | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | Thanks for volunteering to whip this up into shape, folks! | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | yeah thanks everyone | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:33 |
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| hub_cap | SlickNik: i have a splinter in my toe that i cant see | 18:33 |
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| hub_cap | should i go to the doctor? | 18:33 |
| hub_cap | open discussion FTW!! | 18:34 |
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| vipul | hub_cap is back, in full form! | 18:34 |
| hub_cap | HAHA | 18:34 |
| amrith | hub_cap, punctuate your sentence. Is it the toe that you aren't able to see, or the splinter. | 18:34 |
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| SlickNik | hub_cap: depends — is it infected? | 18:34 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I have a <real> open discussion item | 18:34 |
| vipul | amrith: nice! | 18:34 |
| boblebauce | Yesterday, I volunteered to work on the root-wrap support in Trove | 18:34 |
| hub_cap | amrith: if im looking from my belly it hides the toe, but its the splinter.. and no its not infected SlickNik HAHAHHAAH ok /me dissapears | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | boblebauce: We had an open bp for it somewhere. Were you able to find it? | 18:35 |
| boblebauce | SlickNik: yes. amrith kindly sent me the link | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | boblebauce: Also welcome! And thanks. :) | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | amrith: go for it. | 18:36 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I think boblebauce wants some direction | 18:36 |
| amrith | I suggested he check with the dev team | 18:36 |
| amrith | before updating the bp | 18:36 |
| amrith | and stuff | 18:36 |
| amrith | whether it is something that is still desired | 18:36 |
| amrith | but my item was a reminder about the mid-cycle meetup. If you are planning to attend and have not yet registered, please do. There's also a link to block reservation rates on the hotel so grab those while they last (if you need hotel). | 18:37 |
| boblebauce | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/rootwrap-for-guest | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | So a lot of the BPs are old, and either have old designs — or no design information in them at all. | 18:37 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I'll volunteer to help boblebauce on the new design etc., | 18:38 |
| amrith | but wanted to make sure that he didn't end up doing a bunch of work for naught. | 18:38 |
| vipul | +1 we shoudl do this.. we might be the only project that doesn't use rootwrap, and sudo's all day | 18:38 |
| amrith | maybe best thing to do is update the BP and bring it to Monday meeting? | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | Yeah, I'm in favor of doing this as well fwiw, but we should update the BP and bring it to the Monday meeting. | 18:39 |
| amrith | I'll help get that done. | 18:39 |
| boblebauce | SlickNik: Allright | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Cool, thanks amrith | 18:40 |
| amrith | boblebauce, let's catch up after the mtg. SlickNik: np. | 18:40 |
| boblebauce | amrith: ok, thanks for your help | 18:40 |
| SlickNik | Anyone have anything else? | 18:41 |
| cp16net | naw i'm good | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | wellllllll | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | lol | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | jk | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | hub_cap: get someone to remove that splinter already :P | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 9 18:42:55 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-07-09-18.00.html | 18:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-07-09-18.00.txt | 18:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-07-09-18.00.log.html | 18:43 |
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| boblebauce | thank you guys | 18:43 |
| hub_cap | lol SlickNik | 18:43 |
| cp16net | thx | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | Thanks guys. | 18:43 |
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| johnma | thank you. | 18:44 |
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