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meow-nofera_teem, ты тут?09:02
meow-nofersorry, wrong channel09:02
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zns#startmeeting satori15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 21 15:00:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'satori'15:00
znsHey! Who's here for the Satori meeting?15:01
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walker_o/15:03
znsHi walker_15:04
walker_One of these days I will actually fix my nick15:04
znssamstav - you there?15:05
samstavo/15:05
znsCool - let's get started. I think this will be quick...15:06
zns#topic Action Items15:06
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znswalker_: Create a blueprint for choosing the escalation prefix?15:06
walker_Please roll over to next week15:06
znssamstav: Address comments on submission 9838?15:07
zns#action: walker_ Create a blueprint for choosing the escalation prefix ("sudo" OR "su -" OR ?) when running commands in ssh.py15:07
znsdone15:07
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zns98383 - that is15:07
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znsWhat is 98383, btw? samstav ?15:08
znsIs that a bug in Launchpad?15:08
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samstavIIRC, 98383 is the primary windows submission15:09
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znsAh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98383/15:10
samstav#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98383/15:10
samstav:)15:10
znsI noticed it was failing on pep8. Has there been a break in the version of pep8 being used?15:10
samstavYes, and I didn't track down the root cause.15:10
samstavI did fix it though15:10
znsSo the blocker is coming from upstream work on the testing tools?15:11
samstavvia15:11
samstav#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106134/15:11
samstavNo blocker on the testing tools anymore15:11
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samstavBetween submission 98383 and 106134, I ( we? ) created a conundrum15:11
znsI was wondering if we needed a p[atch to update test-requirements and then we can rebase. You don't think that's needed?15:12
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zns... cuz I was wondering if that is why we received https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103612/ from Longgeek?15:13
samstavYeah, I'm not sure about the submission from Longgeek, I thought it was just argparse?15:13
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samstavWhat I think it boils down to is that the original windows support submission needs the subsequent submission 106134 in order to pass gates, but it is inverse in "git" terms.15:14
samstavBecause 106134 actually depends on 9838315:14
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samstavI was hoping we could come to a conclusion about the python3 & eventlet situation, and then get 106134 passing all gates.15:15
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samstavThen we could just waive 98383, and merge 106134, and then afterwards we would have certainty that what's in the master branch is a working version that passes all gates15:16
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samstavI would not mind pushing a submission which fixes the VersionConflict & test requirements, but 98383 would still be just as far from passing all gates15:18
znsThat sounds like a good idea; just simpler to handle the version conflict alone.15:19
znsWhat options we have to address eventlet and python3? Can we not use eventlet and ;et any client using satori monkey patch if they need to use event let?15:19
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samstavzns do you mean remove eventlet from requirements, and use naive method calls?15:21
samstave.g. try, except15:21
samstavfrom eventlet import greenthread as thread15:22
znsYes. Just `from threading import thread`15:23
samstavoh... monkey_patch...15:24
samstavRight.15:24
samstavThat sounds good.15:24
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walker_I heard someone talking about asyncio as a potential replacement to eventlet, is that something we should investigate15:24
walker_s/replacement/alternative15:25
znsCan tunnel.py work without eventlet?15:25
walker_https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/blueprints/asyncio15:25
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samstavzns yes tunnel.py can work without eventlet, we just need to make sure we are using the methods that return immediately15:26
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* samstav #link https://github.com/samstav/satori/blob/testing07162014/satori/tunnel.py#L148-L14915:26
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samstavas `greenthread.spawn_n()` does15:26
znswalker_: that's for python3 only, right?15:26
samstavsorry, walker_15:27
walker_It looks like it was ported to 2.7 as well - https://pypi.python.org/pypi/trollius15:27
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walker_I don't know why they chose different names though15:28
* samstav is blind15:28
samstavif "troll" in package_name:15:28
samstavsys.exit(1)15:29
walker_ha15:29
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znsDoesn't eventlet just patch threading to effectively mimic spawn_n?15:30
samstavI believe so15:30
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samstavzns looks like this15:31
samstav#link http://eventlet.net/doc/patching.html#eventlet.patcher.is_monkey_patched15:31
samstavwould tell us whether it was monkey patched by eventlet15:31
znsSo we _might_ (should?) be able to write tunnel.py using stdlib in a way that if a client is using eventlet, it should just work.15:31
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samstavthread=True15:32
samstaveventlet.monkey_patch(thread=True)15:32
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samstavoh, jk.15:33
samstav"If no arguments are specified, everything is patched."15:33
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znssamstav: we could just have code in there like bottlepy does: https://github.com/bottlepy/bottle/blob/master/bottle.py#L2773 - if eventlet is loaded, us it, else fail to stdlib. And don't fail on import and don't add event let to requirements.txt.15:34
samstavYes, we should definitely be able to do that15:34
znsWill that address the python3 blocker?15:34
samstavzns yes exactly that.15:34
samstavyes15:34
znsSo that would be a change to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98383/?15:35
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znsAnd we'd be able to merge that before 103612?15:35
samstavyes15:36
samstavand yes15:36
samstavSo, are we OK with merging the windows support submission (98383) even though it won't pass all gates, as long as a rebased version of submission 106134 ( depends on/rebases off of the 98383 ) *does* pass all gates?15:36
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samstavAnd, I push a submission to fix test requirements / VersionConflict15:37
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znsNo - I thought we could fix 98383 by removing even let and rebasing it after we (you?) fix the VersionConlflict in a separate review?15:37
znsMaybe I still don't understand the reason for accepting a patch that doesn't pass gates...15:38
zns... is there something forcing us to do that?15:40
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samstavNot "forcing"15:40
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samstavbut, the only alternative is to completely re-do the work from patch 106134 into 98383, OR squash 106134 into 98383, which would remove my authorship15:41
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samstavI was trying to help move 98383 along by doing the work to make it pass gates15:42
samstavbut the gerrit workflow pretty much makes it impossible to collaborate on a patch15:42
samstav(the only downside I've encountered so far)15:43
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samstavWe really need to have both of those commits attached to the same submission with different authors15:43
znsI see.15:43
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znsIs there a way to accept yours and have that pull in Nico's? - a gerrit question I guess.15:44
samstavOh... that's interesting...15:44
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znsSo you're suggesting you add a new patch to fix the version conflict, merge that, rebase 98383 and remove event let from it, update yours to pass gates and merge?15:46
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samstavthat is precisely correct15:46
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clarkbyou can use co-authored-by and both claim authorship15:47
samstavwell15:48
samstavthanks clarkb!15:48
znsboom!15:49
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znsThat would mean you and Nico would resubmit 98383 as a co-authored patch... with gates passing... ?15:50
samstav...15:50
samstavYes?15:50
samstavYes.15:50
samstavThough, we still want a separate submission for the test requirements patch yes?15:50
znsI think so. That would be easier to keep track of...15:50
znsAnd easy to rebase also.15:51
samstavyes15:51
samstavLooking into the co-author thing -- that seems to be a gerrit-ism15:52
znsAre you cool with that all on your plate? I'll help if you need me to; just let me know what I can do...15:52
clarkbits not a gerritism15:52
clarkbits just a git commit message header15:52
samstavNo? It doesn't seem to be built into git, and it doesn't look like GitHub will recognize that15:53
clarkbgerrit doesnt do anything with it15:53
clarkbbut its fairly well accepted practice to use15:53
samstavCool15:53
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znssamstav: feel free to add your nick (or Nico's) to the commit subject if you want to make sure the contribution isn't missed outside of OpenStack statistics...15:54
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znsclarkb - thank you for the tip.15:55
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samstavok. all good15:56
znsAlright... so that'll do it for today!15:58
znsThanks, all.15:58
samstavthanks zns15:58
znsAnd thanks, samstav, for taking this on.15:58
samstavgreat to have you back15:59
znsI get to experience the timezone difference now... from Stockholm :-)15:59
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zns#endmeeting15:59
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znsThanks :-)15:59
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redrobotAwesome!  Lots of barbicaneers here today. :)20:01
redrobotAs usual the agenda can be found here:20:01
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redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican20:01
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redrobotOk, let's get started!20:03
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redrobot#topic Launchpad Cleanup20:03
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redrobotSo good news is that OpenStack Infra is going to be handling the release of Barbican for j220:03
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redrobotSo I've been trying to get launchpad cleaned up so that bugfixes/blueprints are correctly sorted by release20:04
redrobotsince this is how Infra is going to know what to put on the release notes20:04
redrobotOne thing I want to clean up is that we have 30+ blueprints and only a few SPEC files in review20:05
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redrobotI was going to do this last week, but atiwari was a bit confused for the unexpected closing of a BP20:06
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redrobotso I figured I'd wait and talk about it here.20:06
redrobotI'm proposing to abandon Blueprints on Launchapd after 5 days without a corresponding SPEC file CR.20:06
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atiwariredrobot, IMO 5day are not enough I think 2 weeks are OK20:08
atiwarithoughts?20:08
rellerrellerIs that a one time thing or going forward I need to have a spec within five days?20:08
redrobotI would like to have it going forward20:08
rellerrellerOK20:08
redrobotI'm trying to avoid having tons of blueprints without any work being done on them20:08
rellerrellerI think five days is good. I feel like both should be submitted at the same time.20:08
rellerrellerI don't see much value in a BP without a spec.20:09
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redrobotatiwari I think two weeks would be too long...  I think if it takes more than 5 days to draft the Spec, then maybe you should wait to open the Launchpad BP20:09
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atiwariredrobot, reopening the closed BP is possible ?20:10
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atiwariredrobot, OK20:10
redrobotatiwari Yes, I would consider reopening Blueprints when a Spec is submitted20:10
atiwari+120:10
redrobotatiwari awsome! :)20:11
redrobotanyone else have any comments?20:11
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redrobotok, in that case20:14
tsv_redrobot, will the 5 days limit be applied even if nobody looked/commented on the blueprint ?20:14
redrobottsv_ the purpose of the SPEC file is for people to be able to comment on them.20:14
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redrobottsv_ IMO a Launchpad BP is just used for tracking progress, but discussion should happen on the Spec CR.20:15
atiwariredrobot, I think tsv_ has raise a valid question20:15
atiwariIMO there has to be some somments in BP it self.20:15
atiwarithat will save sometime.20:16
redrobotatiwari no, we all agreed that the spec repo would be used for comments.20:16
atiwarisomments/ comments20:16
tsv_redrobot, atiwari, thanks. so the blueprint is only for tracking with launchpad ?20:16
redrobotLaunchpad does not lend itself for good conversations the way Gerrit does.20:16
redrobottsv_ Yes, Blueprints is just for tracking status, so that we know what BP go into each release.20:17
tsv_ok20:17
redrobottsv_ all comments should be done on the spec repo20:17
tsv_redrobot, got it20:18
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redrobotok, any more questions/comments? ...20:19
redrobotok, then20:20
redrobot#agreed We'll abandon Launchpad Blueprints after 5 days without a corresponding Spec CR.20:21
redrobotmoving on20:21
redrobot#topic Juno 220:21
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redrobotAs you may know, the next milestone release will happen this week.20:21
redrobothttps://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/juno-220:22
redrobotThere are a couple of pending items that I wanted to check the status on20:22
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redrobotAdam Harwell is waiting on reviews for the service-to-container registration https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107845/20:23
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redrobotSo, if you guys could take some time after this meeting to review, that would be awesome.20:23
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redrobotIf we can't get this merged today, I'll bump it to J320:23
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atiwariredrobot, I will look in to it20:24
redrobotatiwari you have a pending CR for a bugfix with a -1 review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99967/20:24
redrobotatiwari do you think you'll be able to address the -1 today?20:24
redrobotIf not, I can kick that bugfix to J320:24
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atiwariredrobot, I will look at it too20:25
redrobotatiwari awesome, thanks!20:25
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atiwariredrobot, as per Steve Heyman comments, he want it to be handled in Pecan20:26
atiwarihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/99967/3/barbican/api/app.py20:26
atiwariin that case nothing for me to do20:26
redrobotatiwari There was also a comment about adding a Bug # to the commit message, I think?20:26
atiwarihmm20:27
redrobotI think Steve Heyman is out for the afternoon, so I may have to kick this to J3 after all...20:27
atiwariredrobot, I think Closes-Bug #1326481 is there20:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1326481 in barbican "406 response when Accept header is application/json on DELETE requests" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132648120:27
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atiwarilet make it J320:27
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redrobotatiwari ok, will do.20:28
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redrobotalso Arun Kant has an open CR with negative reviews for a bugfix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98926/20:28
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redrobotis Arun here?20:28
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atiwariredrobot, I will check with Arun on that one20:29
atiwariI think he is not in the meeting20:29
redrobotatiwari ok, thank you... same goes for him about J3.  If he can't get to it we can just push to J3.20:29
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atiwariok20:29
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redrobotok guys, that's all I had on the agenda for today.  Does anyone else have something they would like to talk about?20:30
atiwariredrobot, Can we start reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87405/.20:30
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redrobotatiwari sure, I'll try to take a look at it today.20:31
atiwariredrobot, thanks20:32
tsv_redrobot, for the tenant-id removal from uri, I have updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105562 with answers to many of the comments. could we please have more reviews while i work on rebasing the next patch ?20:32
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redrobottsv_ looks like it's failing on a couple of gates.20:33
tsv_redrobot, yep - am working on fixing that20:34
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redrobottsv_ I usually don't review patches unless all gates are passing, since it can't be merged that way.   I'll take a look once Jenkins gives it a +120:34
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tsv_redrobot, i understand. i meant the answers to the existing comments20:35
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tsv_and thanks20:35
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redrobottsv_ If I have time I'll try to take a look.20:36
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tsv_redrobot, excellent. thanks20:36
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redrobotOk, guys, if no one else has anything to talk about we can call it an early meeting.20:38
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woodster__An FYI that I put up a blueprint CR for modifying version resource info20:41
woodster__....so we can move away for hardcoded versions in our service catalogs at some point20:41
woodster__https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108163/20:41
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redrobotwoodster__ cool.  will take a look as soon as I can20:42
* redrobot is going to be busy reviewing stuff all week... >_<20:43
woodster__Yeah, the M3 milestone is the bigger one, so August will be even busier I think20:43
redrobotfor sure...20:44
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redrobotok guys, that wraps it up for this week.  thanks everyone for coming!20:46
redrobot#endmeeting20:47
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