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| baoli_ | #startmeeting PCI passthrough | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 22 13:00:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI passthrough)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:00 |
| baoli_ | hi | 13:00 |
| rpothier | hi | 13:00 |
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| irenab | hi | 13:01 |
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| irenab | shall we start with quick update? | 13:03 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, I was waiting for more folks to join. | 13:03 |
| irenab | baoli: thank you for review you did on Mech Driver | 13:04 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, sure thing. | 13:04 |
| baoli_ | Ok, let's get started. | 13:05 |
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| irenab | I can attend only for 1/2 an hour today. Sorry in advance | 13:05 |
| baoli_ | Quick update from my side: all the code is in. Review is needed. | 13:05 |
| sadasu | Hi | 13:05 |
| baoli_ | sadasu, hi | 13:05 |
| sadasu | baoli_:cool! | 13:06 |
| irenab | baoli: Itzik and me work continuosly with all patches under review to verify end 2 end. | 13:06 |
| baoli_ | irenab, all you need to do is to get the code from the last patch. | 13:07 |
| baoli_ | Due to the dependencies, it will pull in all the dependent patches. | 13:07 |
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| irenab | baoli: exactly what we do, will provide code review soon | 13:07 |
| baoli_ | you can use 'git review -N 107466' | 13:07 |
| irenab | baoli: thanks | 13:08 |
| baoli_ | irenab, cool. | 13:08 |
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| baoli_ | The patch keeps changing due to conflicts with code that's coming in. | 13:08 |
| sadasu | baoli_: so are recommending that we not use the diffs that rpothier sent out a week + ago? | 13:08 |
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| baoli_ | sadasu, if you want to use the up-to-date code, you can get it from the review now. | 13:09 |
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| sadasu | ok | 13:09 |
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| baoli_ | it's a heck of work keeping the code up-to-date. Now some unit tests failed in the last patch that I'll have to investigate. | 13:10 |
| irenab | baoli: we see sometimes issues, but not sure if it is directly related to submitted code. Will followup via irc or mail | 13:10 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, do let me know. | 13:10 |
| heyongli | hi, sorry late | 13:11 |
| baoli_ | heyongli, hi | 13:11 |
| irenab | baoli: sure, will arrange with more details and consult with you | 13:11 |
| irenab | hi | 13:11 |
| baoli_ | I'm hoping that people, especially cores, will start reviewing the code. | 13:12 |
| irenab | do we have some current issues to discuss or just need to review and verify? | 13:12 |
| heyongli | before core get involved, test case better to passed. | 13:12 |
| baoli_ | irenab, we'll need to review and verify | 13:12 |
| baoli_ | heyongli, it was passing ealier. | 13:13 |
| irenab | I have some advanced use case to discuss if we do not have other items | 13:13 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, I'd like to talk about your review for a bit | 13:13 |
| heyongli | baoli, great | 13:13 |
| irenab | baoli: sure | 13:13 |
| baoli_ | Two issues: inheritence, and second, device-mapping | 13:14 |
| irenab | baoli: inheritance is already changed | 13:14 |
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| irenab | just have some tox issues, probably will upload later today | 13:15 |
| heyongli | baoli, Jenkins still -1 | 13:15 |
| sadasu | irenab: inheritance changed to what? | 13:15 |
| irenab | api.MechDriver | 13:15 |
| baoli_ | irenab, cool. | 13:15 |
| baoli_ | irenab, a while back, I sent out some code that inherits from mechdriver and uses decorators | 13:16 |
| irenab | baoli: he idea to make agent not mandatory was due to heyongli input that Intel NIC does not support link state change | 13:16 |
| baoli_ | heyongli, yes, the patch uploaded yesterday failed | 13:16 |
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| heyongli | one question, does SRIOV neutron testing need a specific external switch support? | 13:18 |
| irenab | baoli: I still need agent is required, so changing the code accordingly. It is also simplified | 13:18 |
| baoli_ | irenab, agent is optional as we have agreed. | 13:18 |
| irenab | heyongli: not for MD for SRIOV Switch nics | 13:19 |
| sadasu | heyongli: support for Intel card should not need specific external switch | 13:19 |
| irenab | baoli: it depends on deployer choice if require agent | 13:19 |
| heyongli | thanks irenab, sadasu | 13:20 |
| irenab | if dynamic changes are expected the agent will be required | 13:20 |
| irenab | for HW_VEB case, VFs are managed locally | 13:20 |
| sadasu | irenab: could u clarify dynamic changes? | 13:20 |
| irenab | admin state can be managed via 'ip link set state' command | 13:21 |
| irenab | due to port-update --admin_state_up call for neutron port | 13:21 |
| irenab | ther is also option for QoS, and other, but it is not yet supported | 13:22 |
| baoli_ | irenab, that's right. your existing patch has a config item about whether or not agent is required for a particular device | 13:22 |
| irenab | baoli: it is currently for all deployment and not per device. | 13:22 |
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| irenab | baoli: maybe later maybe enhanced | 13:23 |
| irenab | to wha tI think you mean | 13:23 |
| baoli_ | But it has nothing to do with the parent class your new class should inherit from | 13:23 |
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| sadasu | yes...I wanted to discuss the parent class too | 13:23 |
| irenab | baoli: agree and already changed the parent class | 13:23 |
| baoli_ | irenab, cool | 13:24 |
| irenab | sadasu: go ahead | 13:24 |
| baoli_ | irenab, the device mapping config from the agent side | 13:24 |
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| sadasu | what other changes had to be made when you changed the parent class? | 13:24 |
| baoli_ | do you think that multiple agents would be running per host? | 13:24 |
| irenab | baoli: do not want to make assumtion here | 13:25 |
| sadasu | baoli_: we should not disallow multiple agents afaik | 13:25 |
| irenab | I prefer to follow the existing examples and there is sort of assumption for other agents | 13:26 |
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| irenab | but there is no need for more than one agent of certain type on same compute node | 13:26 |
| baoli_ | Just want to confirm that multiple agents of same type on a single host are allowed in neutron | 13:27 |
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| irenab | baoli: at least existing code assumes that this can be the situation | 13:27 |
| baoli_ | irenab, I'm just thinking that if that's not some thing that we need to support now, then device mapping is not needed. | 13:28 |
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| irenab | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/mech_agent.py#64 | 13:28 |
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| irenab | device mapping serves also what VFs to watch on periodic loop | 13:29 |
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| irenab | please take a look on part 2 of the patch | 13:29 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, ok, I didn't see your second part yet. So it's something thtat has to be there, it's fine | 13:29 |
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| irenab | I wanted to ask if having OVS on PF and VFs on same compute node is the use case you see you want to support? | 13:31 |
| baoli_ | irenab, that's a good question. | 13:32 |
| sadasu | interesting | 13:32 |
| irenab | at least for Intel and Mellanox NICs there is a problem for communication between OVS VM and VF MV on same compute same VLAN | 13:33 |
| sadasu | not sure if someone would want to pay a premium for for sr-iov ports and not use them in that mode | 13:33 |
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| sadasu | but having said, if someone wanted to configure it that way, it not be disallowed | 13:34 |
| irenab | it maybe the case that need to communicate guest without vendor drivers and guest that can consume Sr-IOV VF | 13:34 |
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| irenab | using ML2 its possible, but for case with embedded switching NIC, it requires to add OVS MV macs to the PF | 13:35 |
| baoli_ | irenab, I think it should be ok for OVS with PF, but not sure about OVS with VF. | 13:35 |
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| irenab | what I wanted to raise that if we are going to support this case, there should be some way to add macs of VMs on OVS to the PF | 13:36 |
| baoli_ | what do you mean by macs of VMs on OVS to the PF | 13:37 |
| irenab | if there is a VM connected vi OVS that is connected to PF interface that wants to talk to VM connected via SRIOV VF of same PF | 13:38 |
| baoli_ | irenab, I see. | 13:39 |
| sadasu | is that really a valid case? | 13:39 |
| irenab | sadasu: I think the case is valid, but not sure how common | 13:39 |
| baoli_ | irenab, does mlnx treat the PF interface as a normal ethernet interface from the host point of view? | 13:40 |
| irenab | if there is a need to support it, seems there is a need of some sort of mechanism to propagate macs and program them on PF | 13:40 |
| irenab | baoli: yes | 13:40 |
| sadasu | i know for sr-iov ports, traffic between 2 VFs is treated specially by the switch | 13:40 |
| baoli_ | Irenab, in cisco vmfex, the PF has already assigned a mac | 13:40 |
| sadasu | but not sure if traffic between PF and VF is treated that way...and may differ in each vendor's implementation | 13:41 |
| irenab | baoli: but can OVS be connected to this PF? | 13:41 |
| baoli_ | irenab, I haven't tried it. But I think it should work | 13:41 |
| sadasu | irenab: did not try that | 13:41 |
| baoli_ | irenab, that' the case I referred as OVS + PF | 13:42 |
| irenab | if this use case is required for both Intel and Mellanox, it will require some addition | 13:42 |
| baoli_ | irenab, you mean addition in nova? | 13:42 |
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| irenab | baoli: not sure, more neuron or maybe libvirt... | 13:43 |
| baoli_ | irenab, I would consider that as part of host provisioning | 13:43 |
| yongli | i like try to confirm how intel nic handle this | 13:43 |
| baoli_ | yongli, are you heyongli? | 13:43 |
| yongli | yeah | 13:43 |
| baoli_ | heyongli, thought you were left | 13:44 |
| irenab | I can share with you some slides, and it about Intel | 13:44 |
| yongli | no | 13:44 |
| irenab | will send in the mail later today | 13:44 |
| yongli | sent to.me thanks | 13:44 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, thanks. | 13:44 |
| irenab | but probably we need first complete the basic support for SR-IOV | 13:44 |
| baoli_ | irenab, absolutely, let's review and get them in | 13:45 |
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| baoli_ | heyongli, one issue with the system metadata | 13:45 |
| yongli | anyway conner case wont stop us | 13:45 |
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| yongli | baoli what is it | 13:45 |
| baoli_ | PCI requests is saved in the metadata. Metadata is a key value pair with the value being 255 in max | 13:46 |
| yongli | we exceed that? | 13:46 |
| baoli_ | if pci requests come from both sr-iov and generic, or mutliple sr-iov, it would exceed that easily | 13:46 |
| baoli_ | however, increasing that would impact all the features using the metadata table | 13:47 |
| yongli | its common not only pci i suspect other thing will fill that also | 13:47 |
| baoli_ | I think that this is something that we need to keep in mind, and we need to find a solution later. I will log a bug | 13:48 |
| yongli | no good.idea now , bug is good | 13:48 |
| baoli_ | yongli, another question is about the VF state change from the host. | 13:49 |
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| yongli | what state? | 13:50 |
| baoli_ | how do you change VF state on the host before or after it has been attached to a VM | 13:50 |
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| baoli_ | yongli, this is something you guys talked about three weeks ago. | 13:50 |
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| yongli | sorry but no idea what is it now | 13:51 |
| yongli | do you mean link up down? | 13:51 |
| baoli_ | intel nic.no interface to control per vf up down from host | 13:52 |
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| yongli | now there is no interface to.do such thing | 13:52 |
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| yongli | what is the concern? | 13:53 |
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| baoli_ | yongli, no concern. Just want to know about it. | 13:53 |
| yongli | ok do we bettet to have that? | 13:54 |
| baoli_ | so such an interface doesn't actually exist now. | 13:54 |
| yongli | yeah | 13:54 |
| baoli_ | yongli, well, neutron has a command to control a port's admin state. | 13:54 |
| yongli | i can help to broadcat need from openstack if it is good to have | 13:55 |
| baoli_ | but for sr-iov, we won't be able to do so | 13:55 |
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| baoli_ | Anything else for today? | 13:56 |
| sadasu | baoli_: I agree...this may be an issue later | 13:56 |
| yongli | just say. i will on vacation in rest ilof this week | 13:56 |
| sadasu | baoli_: mostly from the neutron side | 13:56 |
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| baoli_ | yongli, have a good time. | 13:57 |
| baoli_ | sadasu, agree. | 13:57 |
| yongli | thanks | 13:57 |
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| sadasu | yongli: gr8...hav fun | 13:57 |
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| sadasu | baoli_: not sure if you noticed but my BP got approved at the very last minute | 13:58 |
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| yongli | go to a palce.no.plution | 13:58 |
| irenab | yongli: enjoy the vacation | 13:58 |
| baoli_ | sadasu, saw it. Great and good job! | 13:58 |
| yongli | sadasu | 13:58 |
| yongli | good news | 13:58 |
| baoli_ | yongli, hwo often do you see blue skies nowdays in beijing? | 13:59 |
| sadasu | yes....there were a lot of objections to the fact that not all beutron features could be supported on sr-iov ports | 13:59 |
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| yongli | baoli this year is most ofen | 13:59 |
| yongli | not so bad actually | 14:00 |
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| baoli_ | yongli, improving, that's good | 14:00 |
| baoli_ | Thanks everyone. next week | 14:00 |
| baoli_ | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 22 14:00:26 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-22-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-22-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2014/pci_passthrough.2014-07-22-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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| yongli | bye | 14:01 |
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| malini | tht is a good indication that the meeting shud be tomorrow ;) | 15:03 |
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| peoplemerge_ | agreed! | 15:03 |
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| malini | I vote we do the new time | 15:04 |
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| peoplemerge_ | I vote we do the new time | 15:04 |
| vkmc | I vote we do the new time | 15:05 |
| cpallares | me too | 15:05 |
| malini | decision made - marconi meeting is tomorrow :) | 15:05 |
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| malini | kgriffs will email the ML with the time | 15:06 |
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| vkmc | o/ | 15:06 |
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| cpallares | o/ | 15:06 |
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| malini | stop waving till tomorrow :D | 15:07 |
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| cpallares | malini: \o | 15:09 |
| cpallares | :P | 15:09 |
| malini | cpallares: :D | 15:09 |
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| iqbalmohomed | Hi all | 16:04 |
| mnestratov | Hi | 16:05 |
| apmelton | o/ | 16:05 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:05 |
| apmelton | I didn't see any details on the agenda, perhaps we're skipping today? | 16:05 |
| iqbalmohomed | Might be .. This is close to the mid cycle meetup | 16:06 |
| thomasem | Yup. Looking forward to seeing folks at the meetup. | 16:06 |
| apmelton | who all is planning to be at the meet up? | 16:06 |
| apmelton | I know I am | 16:06 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:06 |
| iqbalmohomed | Not me I'm afraid. Hoping to be in Paris though :) | 16:07 |
| mnestratov | Our guy from Parallels is going to be there | 16:08 |
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| thomasem | oh awesome | 16:11 |
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| thomasem | Wells, looking forward to it. I'm going to drop off and grab some lunch. | 16:11 |
| thomasem | Take it easy! | 16:11 |
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| iqbalmohomed | Bye | 16:13 |
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| tsufiev | #startmeeting murano | 17:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 22 17:07:36 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tsufiev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:07 |
| tsufiev | hi all! | 17:07 |
| ankurrr | hello | 17:07 |
| slagun | hi | 17:08 |
| dteselkin | Hi | 17:08 |
| katyafervent2 | hi | 17:08 |
| tsufiev | seems all people that usually drive this meeting are flying on the plane (ruhe) or PTO (smelikyan) | 17:08 |
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| tsufiev | lets start with agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:09 |
| tsufiev | #topic AI review | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:09 | |
| tsufiev | [katyafervent & tsufiev] Provide an update on horizon/dashboard/selenium tests research | 17:10 |
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| katyafervent2 | I have no update on that topic | 17:10 |
| tsufiev | I didn't do it :( | 17:10 |
| katyafervent2 | I guess we should try to run our tests on devstack and it should work | 17:10 |
| katyafervent2 | and horizon guys will review our selenium tests :) | 17:11 |
| tsufiev | katyafervent, I remember ruhe asked us to create an etherpad with results of our investigations about unit and integration tests in Horizon/Muranodashboard | 17:11 |
| katyafervent2 | we do have an etherpad, but there are no updates there | 17:12 |
| tsufiev | katyafervent, could you provide a link? | 17:12 |
| katyafervent2 | it should be in the previous meeting history, sorry I can't provide it right now | 17:13 |
| katyafervent2 | I suggest to move on | 17:14 |
| tsufiev | ok | 17:14 |
| tsufiev | #action tsufiev/katyafervent2 update etherpad with results of our investigations about unit and integration tests in Horizon/Muranodashboard | 17:14 |
| tsufiev | #topic Discuss approval of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/support-keystone-v3 | 17:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss approval of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/support-keystone-v3 (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:14 | |
| sjmc7 | that's me! | 17:15 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, yep :) | 17:15 |
| sjmc7 | i have not got much further with it, but our keystone team has agreed to help me with it | 17:15 |
| sjmc7 | so i'm hoping to get that done in our coming sprint (over the next two weeks) | 17:15 |
| tsufiev | any objections? | 17:16 |
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| katyafervent2 | no | 17:17 |
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| tsufiev | sjmc7, I suspect that BP's approval should be delayed until next time when ruhe appears online | 17:17 |
| sjmc7 | sure | 17:17 |
| tsufiev | ok | 17:17 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, next one is also yours | 17:18 |
| tsufiev | #topic Update on trusts | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update on trusts (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:18 | |
| sjmc7 | i don't have much of an update. i think the approach i put in the BP should work, but i haven't had a chance to try to implement a proof of concept it yet | 17:18 |
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| tsufiev | sjmc7, I remember that Sahara guys and possibly Mistral had used trusts in their projects | 17:20 |
| sjmc7 | yep. heat too | 17:20 |
| sjmc7 | i'll take a look at those projects | 17:20 |
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| tsufiev | sjmc7, ok, if you have any difficulties, we could ask them directly | 17:22 |
| sjmc7 | sure | 17:22 |
| tsufiev | let's move on | 17:23 |
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| tsufiev | #topic Discuss approval of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/support-keystone-v3 | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss approval of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/support-keystone-v3 (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:23 | |
| tsufiev | sorry | 17:23 |
| tsufiev | #topic Discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/application-license-tab | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/application-license-tab (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:23 | |
| sjmc7 | let me get ryan | 17:24 |
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| sjmc7 | drupalmonkey, this one's you | 17:25 |
| sjmc7 | application license tab | 17:25 |
| slagun | It seems reasonable to have license as part of package manifest, not UI form | 17:26 |
| drupalmonkey | slagun: if you want a checkbox for people to agree to the license terms though, would need to be in the UI yaml | 17:27 |
| tsufiev | drupalmonkey, the problem with license embedded into Add Application wizard's description section (right side of the form) is that usually License is quite large | 17:27 |
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| tsufiev | It fits well into TextArea widget, otherwise form will be too tall | 17:28 |
| slagun | drupalmonkey: If BP is about checkbox then why ut contains YAML definition? | 17:28 |
| slagun | I think license details and tracking of license agreements is 2 separate BPs | 17:29 |
| drupalmonkey | i added a couple lines for formatting here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108473/2/muranodashboard/templates/services/_wizard_create.html | 17:29 |
| drupalmonkey | so if you have a lot of text you don't end up with a huge modal window | 17:29 |
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| drupalmonkey | becomes scrollable | 17:29 |
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| sjmc7 | ultimately i think licensing needs a larger amount of work to do properly (allow licenses to be bought, or tracked per seat or something) | 17:30 |
| tsufiev | gokrokve, we're still discussing License & Requirements tabs | 17:30 |
| gokrokve | hi | 17:31 |
| sjmc7 | but for now we just need to be able to say that the user read a EULA | 17:31 |
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| gokrokve | sjmc7: I think this is enough for the current release. Just display the EULA and show a checkobox. | 17:31 |
| sjmc7 | ok. i agree that it's not the best longer term solution | 17:31 |
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| gokrokve | Do you need to track EULA agreement signatures? | 17:32 |
| slagun | Is it urgent? If yes, lets make it a part of UI form. If not lets extend API with ability to request manifest info and have license text be stored in manifest + extra API to track user agreement | 17:32 |
| tsufiev | drupalmonkey, I'll look at this BP's reviews in a short time | 17:32 |
| gokrokve | slagun: I think we have license part in manifest. | 17:32 |
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| sjmc7 | i don't think so, gokrokve. we just need to demonstrate that we've displayed it to the user | 17:32 |
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| gokrokve | sjmc7: Ok. It is pretty easy to implement. | 17:33 |
| sjmc7 | gokrokve - yeah, ryan's already submitted a patch | 17:33 |
| slagun | gokrokve: even if we have we probably need to expand it. And most important make it accessible to dashboard | 17:33 |
| sjmc7 | slagun - it's urgent in the sense that we can't package some things without it | 17:33 |
| gokrokve | sjmc7: Cool. Then lets review it and merge | 17:33 |
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| sjmc7 | but ryan's work doesn't integrate with the license tab, just the deployment flow (since that's where we need to confirmation) | 17:34 |
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| slagun | I mean is it so urgent that we don't have time to implement it right way? | 17:35 |
| gokrokve | sjmc7: I think we can do this on UI side. Just do not enable deploy button if EULA is not checked. | 17:35 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, gokrokve: if we have some further plans for those 2 tabs, perhaps we could leave them as is for now together with merging Ryan's work? | 17:36 |
| sjmc7 | ryan's patch just lets us add it as a UI input | 17:36 |
| gokrokve | slagun: I think this is one of the requirement in HP. They should follow some legal reqirements if they expose soft to clients | 17:36 |
| slagun | gokrokve: I understand. But maybe we can implement it better even if it takes some more time | 17:36 |
| gokrokve | tsufiev: There is no anythinh urgent from our side for these tabs. So we can focus on HP requirements for them | 17:36 |
| sjmc7 | slagun - we can spend some time on doing it right, but deciding on 'right' and implementing it is not a quick process | 17:37 |
| tsufiev | i mean, leave as is for J2, make constistent in J3 | 17:37 |
| sjmc7 | i need to discuss it more with our product and legal people | 17:37 |
| gokrokve | sjmc7: Agree. There is no specific requirements set form our side. | 17:37 |
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| gokrokve | EULA is mandatory for customer facing stuff. So I would rather merge Ryan's fix + add deploy button disable. We don't need to do anything on API and Engine part for that. | 17:38 |
| slagun | It looks inconsistent that we can deploy anything from CLI/pythonclient without accepting EULA | 17:38 |
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| sjmc7 | slagun - yes, i agree | 17:39 |
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| sjmc7 | we will not be encouraging people to deploy from the CLI though, because it's really difficult | 17:39 |
| sjmc7 | ultimately we can't stop someone installing it themselves anyway since it's a glance image | 17:40 |
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| gokrokve | Agree. UI is 95% of all use cases for now. | 17:40 |
| gokrokve | We can add this to CLI and API later. | 17:40 |
| slagun | sjmc7: I accept is as a temporary solution. As soon as we all agree that it is temporary :) | 17:40 |
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| tsufiev | ok. seems like we more-or-less agreed | 17:41 |
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| slagun | because the intention was to freeze current UI forms format. It needs complete rework to supplement MuranoPL contracts, not to duplicate them | 17:41 |
| gokrokve | +1. Lets do a quick fix to satisfy minimal legal requirements and lets file a new bug or BP to track activities with further fix in this area. | 17:41 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, I'll add an action for you to get more details from product and legal people | 17:42 |
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| tsufiev | #action [sjmc7] Get more details on Apps Licencing from HP side; others are encouraged to review Ryan's commits on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/application-license-tab | 17:43 |
| tsufiev | #topic J2 release | 17:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "J2 release (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:44 | |
| tsufiev | https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/juno-2 | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | autho/supplier is done | 17:45 |
| sjmc7 | ah, sorry, already marked 'implemented | 17:46 |
| tsufiev | katyafervent, speaking of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/divide-upload-package-into-two-steps I've almost finished with the infrastructure you need: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107769/ | 17:46 |
| katyafervent2 | tsufiev:cool | 17:46 |
| sjmc7 | looks like we need some bug fixing | 17:46 |
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| katyafervent2 | Most of this blueprint is done | 17:46 |
| katyafervent2 | sjmc7:right | 17:47 |
| tsufiev | katyafervent, it still requires one more patchset, but you can already base your work on current state | 17:47 |
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| tsufiev | 1 Critical confirmed, 3 High in progress | 17:49 |
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| tsufiev | bug scrub/bug squash? | 17:52 |
| tsufiev | here is a bug list prioritized: https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&fiel | 17:53 |
| tsufiev | d.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 17:53 |
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| tsufiev | ok, we all agree that bugfixing is important and will do it ASAP :) | 17:54 |
| tsufiev | moving on... | 17:54 |
| tsufiev | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.h | 17:54 |
| tsufiev | as_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 17:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field." | 17:54 | |
| tsufiev | #topic [sjmc7] - Image tagging (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040673.html) - whether there's anything we can do short term to make this more flexible | 17:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[sjmc7] - Image tagging (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040673.html) - whether there's anything we can do short term to make this more flexible (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:54 | |
| tsufiev | sorry again for wrong link, hard to forget Linux shortcuts in Windows | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. there are obviously lots of things that could be handled in the contract stuff | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | but i think just in the short term, having a list of tags defined in the UI code leads to problems | 17:56 |
| sjmc7 | i don't really have a big problem with using glance metadata to tag images, just that a static list like that is difficult. it almost seems better just to allow freeform tags | 17:56 |
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| slagun | the purpose of current tagging is to filter images. If app requires Linux it should not have an option to select Windows | 17:58 |
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| slagun | sjmc7: have you read my response in ML? | 17:58 |
| sjmc7 | yeah | 17:58 |
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| slagun | I think ML is a good place to discuss it | 17:58 |
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| sjmc7 | ok. but as things are, we will need to tag things with the glance CLI | 17:59 |
| tsufiev | agree on ML, especially we're running out of time here | 17:59 |
| gokrokve | +1 for good and flexible image tags | 17:59 |
| slagun | I agree on free-form tagging as long as this consistent with filtering and future plans | 17:59 |
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| slagun | there are tagging for the machine and tagging for the user | 18:00 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. i'll reply in the ML, you're right | 18:00 |
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| tsufiev | #topic Open Discussion | 18:00 |
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| sjmc7 | we're out of time | 18:00 |
| tsufiev | setting this only to copy-paste ruhe words | 18:00 |
| tsufiev | [ruhe] reviewers, please make sure linked blueprints are approved and have all the required fields filled before you set +1/+2/approved on a patch. I found multiple instances of almost empty blueprints with merged patches. That doesn't help to track changes we have in the project. | 18:00 |
| tsufiev | so, please keep that in mind :) | 18:01 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, we need to keep on top of that better | 18:01 |
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| tsufiev | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: containers)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 22 18:01:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-22-17.07.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-22-17.07.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-07-22-17.07.log.html | 18:01 |
| slagun | sjmc7: I hope to see you suggestions on tagging that are aligned with our plans or at least doesn't make them be impossible | 18:01 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i don't want to break anything | 18:01 |
| tsufiev | now it's time to move discussion to #murano :) | 18:01 |
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| tsufiev | thank you all and bye | 18:02 |
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| pgpus | Is this Solum meeting now? | 21:59 |
| tomblank | yes | 21:59 |
| pgpus | thanks | 21:59 |
| tomblank | starting soon... :) | 21:59 |
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| tomblank | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 22 22:00:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tomblank. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 22:00 |
| pgpus | Is release 2014.2 on track? | 22:00 |
| tomblank | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2014-07-22_2200_UTC | 22:00 |
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| tomblank | #topic Roll Call | 22:00 |
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| muralia | murali allada | 22:00 |
| datsun180b | Ed Cranford | 22:00 |
| asalkeld | o/ | 22:00 |
| james_li | James Li | 22:00 |
| ravips | Ravi Sankar Penta | 22:00 |
| tomblank | Tom Blankenship, pro-tem Chair | 22:00 |
| PaulCzar | Paul Cz | 22:01 |
| lecalcot | Lee Calcote | 22:01 |
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| pgpus | prakash r | 22:01 |
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| bmittapa | Balaji Mittapalli | 22:02 |
| aratim | Arati Mahimane | 22:02 |
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| tomblank | #topic Announcements | 22:02 |
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| tomblank | anyone have any announcements? | 22:03 |
| asalkeld | the pipeline patches are working nicely:) | 22:04 |
| pgpus | Just I am new to this group . | 22:04 |
| datsun180b | well hello and welcome pgpus | 22:04 |
| muralia | welcome pgpus | 22:04 |
| tomblank | pgpus: We don't have a lot on the agenda today so we'll get to open discussion soon. | 22:04 |
| muralia | woot! for pipelines | 22:04 |
| tomblank | pgpus: welcome... | 22:04 |
| ravips | Hi Prakash | 22:04 |
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| pgpus | Thanks well lets shoot for pipeline!!! | 22:04 |
| tomblank | asalkeld: that's great news... | 22:05 |
| tomblank | #topic blueprint/task review | 22:05 |
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| tomblank | asalkeld: thanks for the update on the pipeline. any other details or status you want to share? | 22:05 |
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| asalkeld | no, all good | 22:05 |
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| muralia | angus, what are all the tasks that are executed by the pipelines today? | 22:06 |
| asalkeld | build & deploy | 22:06 |
| muralia | ok. | 22:06 |
| asalkeld | we need some work to the builder api to do unit tests | 22:06 |
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| asalkeld | (not hard) | 22:06 |
| muralia | nice work | 22:06 |
| asalkeld | I sent datsun180b a patch | 22:06 |
| tomblank | yes, good job asalkeld! | 22:07 |
| datsun180b | shouldn't be too tough to wedge unit tests in there | 22:07 |
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| PaulCzar | do we now officially have a reliance on mistral ? | 22:08 |
| asalkeld | PaulCzar, if you want to use pipeline code | 22:08 |
| asalkeld | yes | 22:08 |
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| PaulCzar | asalkeld: okay, so the old pre-pipeline is still usable ? | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | I think so, i haven't used it in a while | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | (should be removed tho') | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | but gpilz might want to use it | 22:09 |
| asalkeld | not sure what to do about that tho' | 22:10 |
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| muralia | im able to still deploy the demo ghost app with the latest code | 22:10 |
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| lecalcot | muralia, are you still able to deploy PaulCzar's "ex1" app with the latest code? | 22:11 |
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| muralia | havent tried that | 22:11 |
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| pgpus | Is build a task or part of workbook in mistral? | 22:11 |
| pgpus | id | 22:11 |
| pgpus | workbook_name | 22:11 |
| pgpus | task | 22:11 |
| pgpus | context | 22:11 |
| pgpus | state | 22:11 |
| asalkeld | pgpus, build is a task | 22:12 |
| pgpus | Ok so workbook is build+deploy for solumn | 22:12 |
| asalkeld | yip, have a look here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95709/ | 22:13 |
| pgpus | thanks | 22:13 |
| tomblank | Subject: Private git repo integration (ravips) | 22:13 |
| tomblank | ravips: can you give us an update on your work? | 22:13 |
| ravips | I did not find time to work on this for the last 2 weeks, resumed the task yesterday | 22:13 |
| tomblank | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/support-private-github-repos Private Repo Blueprint | 22:14 |
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| ravips | added unit tests and incorporated WIP feedback, currently testing my changes..still need to add some functional tests | 22:14 |
| ravips | hoping to submit final patch in couple of days | 22:14 |
| ravips | I find solum.common.exception not useful most of the time.. | 22:14 |
| ravips | have to sprinkle logs/backtrace to figure out the problem.. | 22:15 |
| datsun180b | there's an open bug about "more descriptive exceptions", though i can't remember who submitted it | 22:15 |
| ravips | I think we can improve error msgs in the logs | 22:15 |
| lecalcot | ravips, with regard to this blueprint, we've just embedded Barbican into our upcoming product release. Let me know if we can be of help as you go to use it. | 22:16 |
| ravips | lecalcot: need this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108842/ in python barbican client..please review | 22:16 |
| tomblank | ravips: thanks for the update. | 22:17 |
| ravips | no more updates from my side | 22:18 |
| tomblank | lecalcot: thanks! | 22:18 |
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| tomblank | Subject Chained Trusts (asalkeld, julienvey) | 22:18 |
| lecalcot | tomblank, ravips, sounds real good. We're meeting with Lisa and team at Rackspace on Friday. Will raise it up. | 22:18 |
| asalkeld | tomblank, so this is not a short term problem as I create an empty heat stack when the pipeline is created | 22:19 |
| ravips | lecalcot: thanks | 22:19 |
| asalkeld | then we can update that stack with a trust token with no problem | 22:19 |
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| asalkeld | but going forward, if we have multiple heat stacks that we need to update it would be nice to have chained trusts | 22:20 |
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| tomblank | asalkeld: understand and thanks. | 22:20 |
| asalkeld | tho' I believe shardy has backed off implementing that bp for now | 22:20 |
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| asalkeld | (doing higher priority work) | 22:21 |
| asalkeld | tho' the bp is accepted I think | 22:21 |
| PaulCzar | asalkeld: so if we use heat to manage any customer resources we get to piggy back off the stack ? but if we have stuff that doesn’t have a heat resource, we might not be able to do it on behalf of user ? | 22:21 |
| pgpus | If you are implementing one stack for deployment it should be simpler | 22:21 |
| asalkeld | PaulCzar, yes - it needs a heat stack | 22:22 |
| asalkeld | tho' it's easy to make new resource types | 22:22 |
| asalkeld | I don't think that is a problem | 22:22 |
| pgpus | You can create an YAML descriptor for the stack you deploy for the app you mange | 22:22 |
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| asalkeld | pgpus, you can have a custom heat template | 22:23 |
| pgpus | The descriptor can list resoources | 22:23 |
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| asalkeld | tomblank, I think chain trusts have run dry | 22:24 |
| pgpus | sure custom will be fine | 22:24 |
| tomblank | #topic Open Discussion | 22:24 |
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| gpilz | I think I found a bug in the API w/respect to serializing the "plans" and "plan" resources | 22:24 |
| gpilz | it only does YAML now | 22:25 |
| gpilz | even if you ask for JSON | 22:25 |
| ravips | asalkeld: keystone oauth support will solve this problem? | 22:25 |
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| asalkeld | ravips, no | 22:25 |
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| asalkeld | basically we have to work on keystone to implement chained trusts | 22:25 |
| asalkeld | gpilz, there might be a bug for that | 22:26 |
| muralia | gpilz, do open a bug for it if there isisnt one. If im not wrong, pierre was working on that | 22:26 |
| gpilz | oh - this is still work in progress? | 22:26 |
| james_li | asalkeld: is the BP this one : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/trusts-redelegation | 22:27 |
| james_li | asalkeld: for chained trust? | 22:27 |
| asalkeld | I believe so | 22:27 |
| pgpus | There no specs on that for work to do | 22:28 |
| asalkeld | there is a keystone-spec review | 22:29 |
| datsun180b | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1331093 for gpilz' comment | 22:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331093 in solum "Plan API should return json/yaml as accept header specifies" [Critical,Triaged] | 22:29 |
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| datsun180b | assigned to stannie and marked j2 | 22:29 |
| gpilz | great | 22:30 |
| PaulCzar | on that bug … surely the API should always respond with json, and the client could convert to yaml ? | 22:30 |
| datsun180b | i think the original intent was to accept yaml and respond in kind instead of crunching yaml and storing it as json | 22:31 |
| asalkeld | api should return what you ask (Accept: ..) | 22:31 |
| datsun180b | so the thinking was "why not just accept yaml, store yaml, and return yaml" since our plans are yaml | 22:31 |
| asalkeld | #link https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/specs/juno/trusts-redelegation.rst | 22:31 |
| gpilz | the question is "what do you return in the absence of an 'Accept' header?" | 22:31 |
| gpilz | i.e. what is the default behavior | 22:31 |
| datsun180b | i want to say json is the default for OS | 22:32 |
| asalkeld | I'd guess json | 22:32 |
| gpilz | that makes sense to me | 22:32 |
| muralia | +1 | 22:32 |
| PaulCzar | json by default :) | 22:32 |
| gpilz | seems weird that every other resource defaults to json - but these don't | 22:32 |
| tomblank | +1 | 22:32 |
| PaulCzar | let’s convert everything to yaml. said no-one ever. | 22:33 |
| datsun180b | "Gosh, I wish this service responded with XML" --no one | 22:33 |
| pgpus | python -c 'import sys, yaml, json; json.dump(yaml.load(sys.stdin), sys.stdout, indent=4)' < file.yaml > file.json | 22:33 |
| pgpus | 2013-04-24 00:28:55 | 22:33 |
| pgpus | User: tebeka | 22:33 |
| pgpus | Functions: python | 22:33 |
| pgpus | 0 | 22:33 |
| pgpus | Up | 22:33 |
| pgpus | Down | 22:33 |
| pgpus | Convert YAML to JSON | 22:33 |
| pgpus | Converts YAML file to JSON. | 22:33 |
| gpilz | you haven't seen my SOAP YAML Binding spec yet …. | 22:33 |
| gpilz | :) | 22:33 |
| datsun180b | pgpus: hah, i pasted about that into #solum earlier | 22:34 |
| asalkeld | gpilz, wsme support soap if you want it;) | 22:34 |
| pgpus | may be not , fine if you do have solution for it | 22:34 |
| datsun180b | so from the bug it looks like the yaml/json thing is already identified as a big red problem and stannie's already on it | 22:34 |
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| asalkeld | gpilz, https://pypi.python.org/pypi/WSME-Soap/0.4.1 | 22:35 |
| asalkeld | (we use wsme) | 22:35 |
| gpilz | excuse me - I think I threw up in my mouth a little | 22:35 |
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| tomblank | other topics? | 22:36 |
| datsun180b | now that i'm thinking about it we may want to add a --json or --yaml flag to the CLI when that becomes relevant | 22:36 |
| gpilz | FWIW - I'm working on the spec for the Solum CAMP API | 22:36 |
| pgpus | Is this build deploy tarrgeted for 2014.2 Juno release? | 22:37 |
| datsun180b | or just some kind of --accept= flag anyway | 22:37 |
| lecalcot | Here's a newbie question - in terms of workflow, where is Solum currently delineating between use of heat and use of mistral? | 22:37 |
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| pgpus | I thought deplo was targeting Heat and build was using mistral workflow? | 22:39 |
| asalkeld | lecalcot, we use mistral for the steps | 22:39 |
| asalkeld | so kicking off the build, deploy | 22:39 |
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| asalkeld | but one of the tasks is heat-stack-update | 22:39 |
| pgpus | I see | 22:40 |
| asalkeld | that is where we get heat to update the stack | 22:40 |
| asalkeld | the idea is we can then fit in more stages like functional /unit test | 22:40 |
| asalkeld | easily | 22:40 |
| PaulCzar | if people have time I’d love to see a quick review turnaround of this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108523/ … got some POC stuff I’m working on that would benefit from it … and I’d rather not mess with pulling patches | 22:40 |
| datsun180b | well i think it's great | 22:41 |
| PaulCzar | datsun180b maybe not great, but it’s not the worst code ever written | 22:43 |
| asalkeld | well it would be great if we got the pipeline code in:-O | 22:43 |
| PaulCzar | asalkeld: you aren’t allowed to have nice things | 22:43 |
| lecalcot | thanks, asalkeld. I see the line of delineation now. Is heat-update a Juno BP? | 22:43 |
| datsun180b | hey you two remember that time when i wrote that and you didn't | 22:43 |
| tomblank | asalkeld: +1 | 22:43 |
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| asalkeld | lecalcot, the pipeline stuff is for this release | 22:44 |
| pgpus | That is helpful saves time for tests and should it not be called noBuid.nodeploy? | 22:44 |
| asalkeld | (we currently use heat update, just run more manually) | 22:45 |
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| pgpus | ok | 22:45 |
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| asalkeld | sorry I have to go take kids to school | 22:46 |
| tomblank | any other topics? if not, we can end a few minutes early. | 22:46 |
| asalkeld | later... | 22:46 |
| datsun180b | pgpus: you can't deploy what you isn't built | 22:46 |
| datsun180b | or what isn't built | 22:46 |
| datsun180b | english is hard | 22:47 |
| pgpus | goot answer I like it. | 22:47 |
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| tomblank | thanks everyone. | 22:48 |
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| tomblank | feel free to continue or ask any questions in #solum. | 22:48 |
| tomblank | #endmeeting | 22:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 22 22:48:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-07-22-22.00.html | 22:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-07-22-22.00.txt | 22:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-07-22-22.00.log.html | 22:48 |
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| pgpus | Thanks to all see you next week..bye now | 22:49 |
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