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dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 15 16:00:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
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dhellmann | who's around for the oslo meeting? | 16:00 |
YorikSar | o/ | 16:00 |
jecarey | o/ | 16:00 |
bknudson | hi | 16:00 |
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rpodolyaka | o/ | 16:01 |
pblaho | o/ | 16:01 |
dhellmann | dimsum_, bnemec, markmc, flaper87|afk, jd__ : ping? | 16:01 |
bnemec | o/ | 16:01 |
dimsum_ | o. | 16:01 |
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dimsum_ | o/ | 16:01 |
dhellmann | ok, hi, everyone! | 16:02 |
jd__ | pong | 16:02 |
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dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
dhellmann | #action dhellmann approach the other integrated projects who have not started work on oslo.i18n | 16:02 |
dhellmann | carrying that over again, although we did make some good progress | 16:02 |
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dhellmann | nova glance and keystone are done, cinder is in progress | 16:03 |
dhellmann | #info bknudson file a bug about timeutils mocking issue | 16:03 |
bknudson | dhellmann: did that. | 16:03 |
dhellmann | I looked and didn't see it, do you have the number handy? I only had a minute for a quick search... | 16:03 |
bknudson | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1354521 | 16:04 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1354521 in oslo "timeutils.utcnow use in oslo-incubator and oslo.utils" [High,Triaged] | 16:04 |
dhellmann | thanks, bknudson | 16:04 |
dhellmann | #info everyone review the repo being imported as oslo.concurrency | 16:04 |
dhellmann | the repo looks ready to be imported, so we’re just waiting for infra to have time to do that, right YorikSar? | 16:04 |
YorikSar | Yes. I'll be pursuading this on #openstack-infra. | 16:04 |
dimsum_ | bknudson: similar issue in nova bknudson, fyi | 16:04 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: ok, thanks | 16:05 |
dhellmann | dimsum_: ah, is this the same thing we were just discussing? | 16:05 |
dimsum_ | dhellmann: yep | 16:05 |
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bknudson | dimsum_: I like the new nick. | 16:06 |
dimsum_ | thx! :) casual friday | 16:06 |
dhellmann | ok, bknudson, the solution dimsum_ and I just agreed on was to port the incubated modules to use oslo.utils, and sync those changes over along with anything else needed to use oslo.utils | 16:06 |
bknudson | dhellmann: ok, that's what I was thinking would be the solution. | 16:06 |
dhellmann | bknudson: the main concern I had was that would require projects that needed patches to any of those incubator modules to adopt oslo.utils | 16:07 |
dhellmann | I suppose we can always create a branch later, if we need to | 16:07 |
bknudson | y, too bad for them. | 16:08 |
dimsum_ | L) | 16:08 |
dimsum_ | :) | 16:08 |
bknudson | all they have to do is import it | 16:08 |
bknudson | I mean put it in their requirements | 16:08 |
dhellmann | this also brought up the idea for us to change the process in kilo, and create a branch early in the cycle then delete modules from master | 16:08 |
dhellmann | bknudson, well, if they don't make the full change they'll have this same problem but in reverse -- their app code will use the incubated utils modules and some incubated code will use the library | 16:09 |
dhellmann | under the new plan, backports to the incubator would go into the branch, not into master | 16:10 |
dhellmann | I'll have to discuss that with ttx, but think about it | 16:10 |
dhellmann | anything else on that topic? | 16:10 |
dhellmann | moving on, then | 16:11 |
dhellmann | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:11 |
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dhellmann | liaisons, how were things this week? | 16:11 |
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bknudson | for keystone... | 16:11 |
bknudson | we tried to switch to the new oslo.config config file generator | 16:11 |
bknudson | because apparently the script doesn't support macos | 16:11 |
bknudson | we ran into a few things and opened bugs and proposed fixes | 16:12 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113940/ | 16:12 |
bknudson | 1) oslo-incubator config options aren't listed | 16:12 |
bknudson | 2) the config options are in alphabetical order | 16:12 |
dhellmann | (that's the link I just posted) | 16:12 |
dhellmann | hmm, does that matter? | 16:12 |
bknudson | then there was another one in rtc | 16:12 |
bknudson | dhellmann: it's a usability issue... the order they were in using oslo-incubator groups related options | 16:13 |
bknudson | 3) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114031/ | 16:13 |
dhellmann | bknudson: ok, we do have explicit groups for that, but I can see where the ordering would be useful to be able to control | 16:13 |
bknudson | Set sample_default for rpc_zmq_host | 16:13 |
bknudson | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1356591 | 16:14 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1356591 in oslo "oslo-config-generator alphabetizes options" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:14 |
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dhellmann | I've put those on my priority list for later today | 16:15 |
dhellmann | and we'll mention them again later when we talk about weekly priorities | 16:15 |
dhellmann | is there anything else we should talk about? | 16:15 |
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dhellmann | ok, let's keep going then | 16:16 |
dhellmann | #topic Need someone to run the meeting for the next 2 weeks (dhellmann) | 16:16 |
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dhellmann | I’m traveling on the next 2 Fridays and need someone to lead those meetings. Volunteers? | 16:16 |
dhellmann | I'll be around on other days, it just so happens that my travel falls on friday twice in a row | 16:17 |
dimsum_ | dhellmann: i can run the first one | 16:17 |
dhellmann | #info dimsum to chair the meeting next week | 16:17 |
dhellmann | thanks, dimsum_ :-) | 16:18 |
beekneemech | I should be able to do the other. | 16:18 |
dhellmann | #info beekneemech to chair the meeting in 2 weeks | 16:18 |
dhellmann | thanks, beekneemech | 16:18 |
dhellmann | #topic Adoption status | 16:18 |
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dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-oslo-adoption-status | 16:18 |
dhellmann | do we have any updates to mention here? | 16:18 |
dhellmann | I think next cycle I'm going to use a wiki page for this so we can subscribe to edits :-) | 16:18 |
dimsum_ | dhellmann: oslo.vmware is ongoing (Nova) | 16:19 |
dhellmann | maybe even bugs | 16:19 |
pblaho | dhellmann: tuskar is going to adopt oslo.db ... | 16:19 |
dhellmann | dimsum_: ok, good, could you add a section to the etherpad with that? I assume there will be cinder work, too? | 16:19 |
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dhellmann | pblaho: good! | 16:19 |
dimsum_ | dhellmann: y, glance and cinder | 16:19 |
dimsum_ | dhellmann: will do | 16:20 |
dhellmann | dimsum_: thanks | 16:20 |
jecarey | oslo.i18n merged for cinder | 16:20 |
dhellmann | jecarey: \o/ | 16:20 |
dhellmann | this is usually the happy part of the meeting :-) | 16:20 |
jd__ | is it possible to merge any oslo thing for cinder? | 16:21 |
jd__ | I've got a patch to update oslo.policy stuck for months | 16:21 |
jd__ | PITA | 16:21 |
dhellmann | jd__: hrm, link? | 16:21 |
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dhellmann | is our cinder liaison here today? | 16:21 |
jd__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78614/ | 16:22 |
dhellmann | jd__: I'll talk to Duncan | 16:22 |
jd__ | I think oslo-incubator in cinder has not been updated for a long time | 16:22 |
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dhellmann | yeah, if they don't want to take the updates they may have to wait for libraries for fixes and features, at this point | 16:23 |
dhellmann | are we blocked with adoption anywhere else? | 16:23 |
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dhellmann | ok, I've pinged the cinder folks, so let's see what happens | 16:24 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.serialization graduation status | 16:24 |
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dhellmann | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-serialization | 16:24 |
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dhellmann | I've lost track of who is actually running this one. beekneemech the bp is assigned to you, but I think there were others helping? | 16:25 |
* dimsum_ is helping - 3 reviews in flight - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.serialization,n,z | 16:25 | |
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beekneemech | Yep ^ | 16:25 |
dhellmann | ok, good | 16:26 |
beekneemech | I think I might have had an infra change pending too. Let me check. | 16:26 |
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beekneemech | #link https://review.openstack.org/112994 | 16:26 |
dimsum_ | beekneemech: there was a governance repo review from you | 16:26 |
beekneemech | Yeah, governance merged. projects.txt merged. | 16:26 |
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dimsum_ | cool | 16:26 |
beekneemech | Just the devstack-gate change left to go I think. | 16:27 |
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dhellmann | ok, the governance ones are mostly procedural, ttx approves those after I +1 as long as there's no objection | 16:27 |
dhellmann | beekneemech: ok, good | 16:27 |
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dhellmann | #topic oslo.concurrency graduation status | 16:27 |
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dhellmann | amrith, YorikSar, I have a paste-bomb with some of your requests coming... | 16:27 |
dhellmann | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/graduate-oslo-concurrency | 16:28 |
dhellmann | amrith and YorkSar have a few changes to be merged in the incubator related to the concurrency code | 16:28 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109417/ | 16:28 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109469/ | 16:28 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110933/ | 16:28 |
dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Graduation | 16:28 |
dhellmann | our general policy is to allow back ports in the incubator, but since the concurrency repo is being imported we should wait until that is done, then merge the changes in the library, then in the incubator | 16:28 |
dhellmann | thoughts? | 16:28 |
YorikSar | From what we've clarified on #openstack-oslo, we can land all those changes to concurrency repo once it's created and then backport them to incubator. | 16:29 |
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YorikSar | dhellmann: Yes. | 16:29 |
beekneemech | I'd rather wait. It's a nightmare trying to sync both directions once the repo gets created. | 16:29 |
dhellmann | exactly | 16:29 |
* beekneemech says from experience | 16:29 | |
dhellmann | ok, so as long as everyone is ok with that, I think it's settled | 16:29 |
YorikSar | Although amrith wanted to get them in incubator as fast as we can, but we'll definitely have synchronization issues otherwise. | 16:29 |
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dhellmann | right, I'm more worried about having things diverge | 16:30 |
YorikSar | beekneemech: Agree. | 16:30 |
dhellmann | let's see if infra can set up the repo for us today | 16:30 |
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YorikSar | I'll ping them one more time. | 16:30 |
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YorikSar | We also have hot discussion going on around lockutils | 16:30 |
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dhellmann | YorikSar: fungi is usually pretty responsive, but I don't know if the team is busy with their own work today | 16:31 |
YorikSar | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/043090.html | 16:31 |
dimsum_ | YorikSar: thanks for taking it to ML | 16:31 |
* dhellmann is behind on the ML | 16:31 | |
beekneemech | That's a fun one. ;-) | 16:31 |
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YorikSar | I've created an etherpad and most of discussion is there. | 16:31 |
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dhellmann | is this the posix lock/process lifetime issue? | 16:31 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: Yes. It was :) | 16:31 |
beekneemech | Among other things | 16:31 |
dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lockutils-issues | 16:31 |
YorikSar | Now that's about may be removing POSIX locks and using only file locks entirely. | 16:32 |
dhellmann | YorikSar, beekneemech, jd__ : would tooz help with this? | 16:32 |
YorikSar | (amongst other options) | 16:32 |
beekneemech | dhellmann: I don't think so. tooz is using this backend for its IPC locks. | 16:32 |
dhellmann | :-/ | 16:32 |
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jd__ | dhellmann: help no, but it'll be related at some point | 16:32 |
YorikSar | That's another question I have. I thought that tooz is for distributed locking and lockutils is for local locking. | 16:32 |
beekneemech | lockutils unfortunately also got used for distributed locking because it was the only thing available at the time. | 16:33 |
dhellmann | ok, I need to absorbe this, there's a lot of info here | 16:33 |
jd__ | IPC is distributed accross process | 16:33 |
dhellmann | is there a consensus emerging about the approach? | 16:33 |
* jd__ naiiiiled it | 16:33 | |
beekneemech | :-) | 16:34 |
dhellmann | jd__: nothing but net | 16:34 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: Well... I'm not sure yet. | 16:34 |
beekneemech | I wouldn't call it anything like consensus, no. :-( | 16:34 |
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YorikSar | I think we need more people to weigh in. | 16:35 |
dhellmann | ok, I'll catch up on the discussion and see if I can add anything to it, but I think there are probably other people we need to have involved so let's approach them directly and ask them to get involved in the ML thread | 16:36 |
YorikSar | Although I can see reverting to file locking and finally merging lockutils to pylockfile entirelly as a good enough option... | 16:36 |
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fungi | dhellmann: YorikSar: i'll take a look--get me urls in #-infra at your convenience | 16:37 |
dhellmann | fungi: thanks! | 16:37 |
YorikSar | fungi: done | 16:37 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: that approach seems ok, but we should look at the history of why we moved to posix locks before jumping back and reintroducing an old problem | 16:37 |
beekneemech | jd__: is probably the one to answer that. | 16:38 |
beekneemech | I _think_ the only reason was to remove the need for lock_path being set. | 16:38 |
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YorikSar | dhellmann: We'll need a lot of input from operators here. | 16:38 |
jd__ | it was an optimization | 16:38 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: If lock_path is set correctly by everyone anyway, then we can safely move to it. | 16:38 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: should we start asking for that now, or wait until we have a proposal for a change? | 16:38 |
jd__ | I think going back to file and moving to sysv/tooz later is ok | 16:38 |
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beekneemech | Which we had actually discussed addressing in a different way. | 16:38 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: I think we should wait for our discussion to settle a bit first. | 16:39 |
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dhellmann | jd__, beekneemech : could you work on adding the details of that change to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lockutils-issues | 16:39 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: ok | 16:39 |
dimsum_ | we should just have multiple impls :) | 16:39 |
jd__ | k | 16:40 |
beekneemech | We could, but we need a sane default anyway for the existing consumers. | 16:40 |
dhellmann | dimsum_: if there's some sort of fundamental issue with one, we wouldn't want anyone to actually use it, right? | 16:40 |
dhellmann | jd__: thanks | 16:40 |
dimsum_ | dhellmann: right | 16:40 |
YorikSar | jd__: We shouldn't first go back to file locks just to go to SysV locks later. We should pick one direction an follow it. | 16:40 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: perhaps, but if we consider this a critical problem a short-term fix followed by a different longer term fix might be appropriate | 16:41 |
* jd__ needs to read it first | 16:41 | |
dhellmann | we're not going to resolve it today, I think, so let's keep going | 16:41 |
jd__ | k | 16:41 |
dhellmann | #topic bug fix for mask_password | 16:41 |
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YorikSar | dhellmann: There are rather clear implementation plans for every direction in the etherpad... | 16:41 |
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YorikSar | dhellmann: Sure | 16:41 |
dhellmann | #undo | 16:42 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2143b90> | 16:42 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: ok, that may change my opinion then | 16:42 |
dhellmann | #topic bug fix for mask_password | 16:42 |
dhellmann | amrith has a patch to mask_password, which is part of strutils in the incubator but is going to move to oslo.log later | 16:42 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113407/ | 16:42 |
dhellmann | this one I think we can merge now, since it changes something that isn’t in a library yet | 16:42 |
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dhellmann | dimsum_, amrith, and I discussed this a bit on irc right before the meeting today | 16:42 |
dhellmann | I've also proposed a change to update the oslo.log spec: | 16:43 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/114579 | 16:43 |
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dimsum_ | net is...mask_password will live in oslo.utils and oslo.log will depend on oslo.utils | 16:44 |
dhellmann | oh, actually, I didn't update my notes for the meeting after we talked, so that resolution I pasted above is wrong -- we're going to put mask_password in oslo.utils.strutils so that no libraries have to depend on oslo.log | 16:44 |
dhellmann | yep | 16:44 |
beekneemech | Works for me. | 16:45 |
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dhellmann | good | 16:45 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.utils release review | 16:46 |
YorikSar | So what should be the way for amrith? | 16:46 |
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dhellmann | #undo | 16:46 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x20d6190> | 16:46 |
YorikSar | Should he propose change to oslo.utils first? | 16:46 |
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dhellmann | dimsum_: did we say merge amrith's patch first, the move, or do them separately? | 16:46 |
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dimsum_ | dhellmann: we did not talk about that | 16:47 |
dhellmann | we can easily land a patch to put the function in oslo.utils, so I'm not sure it matters | 16:47 |
dimsum_ | +1 | 16:47 |
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YorikSar | So fix function first, add it to oslo.utils later, rught? | 16:48 |
dhellmann | let's move the function as-is to oslo.utils, since it is under graduation, and then backport the change to incubator | 16:48 |
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dhellmann | that's in keeping with our current policies, and I don't think it will delay amrith much because we'll land our move patch quickly | 16:48 |
dimsum_ | +1 to dhellmann's suggestion | 16:48 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: Ok, got it. | 16:48 |
dhellmann | dimsum_, can you start the move patch today? | 16:48 |
beekneemech | Agreed. | 16:48 |
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dhellmann | if not we can find another volunteer | 16:48 |
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dimsum_ | +1 i will | 16:49 |
dhellmann | dimsum_: thanks | 16:49 |
dhellmann | #action dimsum_ propose patch adding mask_password to oslo.utils.strutils | 16:49 |
YorikSar | Great | 16:49 |
dhellmann | anything else for oslo.utils? | 16:49 |
YorikSar | Not from me :) | 16:49 |
dhellmann | :-) | 16:49 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.db release review | 16:49 |
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dhellmann | rpodolyaka, do you have any updates for us? | 16:50 |
dhellmann | or need anything? | 16:50 |
rpodolyaka | still waiting for a few patches to be merged into consuming projects | 16:50 |
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rpodolyaka | and you are welcome to review the patches in oslo.db :) | 16:50 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka: ok, are those patches in other projects blocked at all in a way that I can help with? | 16:51 |
rpodolyaka | there are a few of them which needs second +2 | 16:51 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka: any day now I'm going to keep my promise of doing more reviews :-) | 16:51 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka: if you email me a list, I can bring it up at the cross-project meeting next week | 16:51 |
rpodolyaka | dhellmann: probably just a lack of reviewers in glance or cinder | 16:51 |
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rpodolyaka | I know they had a midcycle meetup this week (cinder) | 16:51 |
rpodolyaka | and we updated the patch the day before yesterday | 16:52 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka: ok, maybe bring it up in #openstack-cinder to see if anyone is listening there | 16:52 |
rpodolyaka | dhellmann: sure! | 16:52 |
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rpodolyaka | so I hope we'll a cut a new release next week | 16:53 |
dhellmann | jd__: looks like cinder is going to take another look at your patch (see #openstack-cinder) | 16:53 |
rpodolyaka | this one will contain mysql-connector fixes | 16:53 |
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rpodolyaka | and yeah, please vote in the thread in which I nominated zzzeek for the oslo.db core reviewers team :) | 16:54 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka: yes, I think we should mention to the projects that this is blocking a release, but that we're not going to block forever and it may break their app -- the changes should be pretty small, so I think we just need to raise awareness | 16:54 |
dhellmann | rpodolyaka: oh, yeah, good :-) | 16:54 |
rpodolyaka | dhellmann: agreed | 16:54 |
dhellmann | is there anything else on oslo.db? | 16:54 |
rpodolyaka | that's all I have for now | 16:55 |
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rpodolyaka | viktors , i159 are both on PTO and zzzeek seems to be missing now | 16:55 |
dhellmann | zzzeek sent me email that he had a conflict today | 16:55 |
dhellmann | just a few minutes left, so let's talk about... | 16:55 |
dhellmann | #topic review priorities for this week | 16:55 |
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dhellmann | we had a few mentioned earlier in the meeting | 16:56 |
dhellmann | the mask_password patch is a good candidate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113407/ | 16:56 |
dhellmann | adding list_opts to incubated modules: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113940/ | 16:56 |
dhellmann | Set sample_default for rpc_zmq_host: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114031/ | 16:56 |
dhellmann | oslo.serialization: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.serialization,n,z | 16:56 |
dhellmann | as well as oslo.db | 16:56 |
rpodolyaka | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.db,n,z | 16:56 |
dhellmann | thanks, rpodolyaka | 16:56 |
dhellmann | does anyone have anything they want us to focus on that's not mentioned there? | 16:56 |
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dhellmann | oh, you should all also check out the fancy new dashboard link on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Review_Links | 16:57 |
* dhellmann is improving his gerrit query skills | 16:57 | |
rpodolyaka | nice! | 16:57 |
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dhellmann | we'll have to update the list of graduating libraries for that part of the page to stay current, but that won't change very often | 16:58 |
dhellmann | 2 minutes left for | 16:59 |
dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:59 |
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YorikSar | We just got oslo.concurrency repo creating merged in. Thanks, fungi! | 16:59 |
dhellmann | thanks, fungi! | 16:59 |
beekneemech | \o/ | 16:59 |
YorikSar | So we might need to change that list already ;) | 16:59 |
dims | woot | 16:59 |
dhellmann | and good work, YorikSar | 16:59 |
fungi | yw | 16:59 |
beekneemech | I had a question about what to do with things like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87375/ | 16:59 |
dhellmann | #action make sure oslo.concurrency is in the graduating libs query for the dashboard | 16:59 |
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dhellmann | oh, good question, beekneemech | 17:00 |
beekneemech | It touches a bunch of files that are graduating, but backporting fixes from all of them is going to be awful. | 17:00 |
dhellmann | lucky for me we're out of time :-) | 17:00 |
beekneemech | :-) | 17:00 |
dhellmann | seriously, let me look at the patch and see if I can come up with a suggestion | 17:00 |
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beekneemech | Sounds good | 17:00 |
dhellmann | this may reinforce my idea of early branching and deleting from master | 17:01 |
beekneemech | Hmm, true. | 17:01 |
dhellmann | we're over time, thanks for coming everyone, good discussion and progress this week | 17:01 |
dhellmann | keep it up! | 17:01 |
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dhellmann | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 15 17:01:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-08-15-16.00.html | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-08-15-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-08-15-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
pblaho | bye | 17:02 |
rpodolyaka | thanks everyone! bye! | 17:02 |
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