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dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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dhellmann | our agenda is in the wiki, as usual: | 16:00 |
dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 16:00 |
dhellmann | who’s here for the oslo meeting? | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Fri Sep 5 16:00:12 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
beekneemech | o/ | 16:00 |
zzzeek | o/ | 16:00 |
jecarey | o/ | 16:00 |
tedross | o/ | 16:00 |
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dhellmann | dimsum_, flaper87 : ping? | 16:00 |
flaper87 | o/ | 16:00 |
dimsum_ | o/ | 16:00 |
kgiusti | o/ | 16:00 |
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beekneemech | brb | 16:01 |
i159 | o/ | 16:01 |
dhellmann | first, thanks to dimsum_ and beekneemech for leading the meetings the past couple of weeks while I was traveling | 16:01 |
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bknudson | hi | 16:01 |
dimsum_ | very welcome :) | 16:01 |
dhellmann | I think we have quorum, so let's get started | 16:02 |
dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:02 |
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dhellmann | I think most of these were covered, but I want to be sure | 16:02 |
dhellmann | #info bnemec and dims to try get oslo.serialization out next week | 16:02 |
dhellmann | we're blocked on that still, I think (more later) | 16:02 |
dhellmann | #info dims to chase oslo.utils adoption in stables branches | 16:02 |
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dhellmann | dimsum_, is this the thing about updating the incubator? | 16:02 |
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dimsum_ | dhellmann: yep | 16:03 |
dhellmann | ok, more on that later, too, I think | 16:03 |
bknudson | here's my attempt on icehouse for keystone -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114845/ | 16:03 |
dhellmann | #info viktors to look at merging run_cross_tests.sh in oslo.db | 16:03 |
bknudson | blocked... they requested something about a change to devstack. | 16:03 |
dhellmann | bknudson: yeah, we're going to have a long talk about that in a bit | 16:03 |
dhellmann | viktors: any update? | 16:04 |
viktors | dhellmann: I'm still supoose, that this script will not fix the testing issue | 16:04 |
dhellmann | ok, I pushed the larger testing discussion to next week so we have time for some release stuff today | 16:04 |
morganfainberg | dhellmann, bknudson, if that isn't really blocked i'm happy to see that go in. but i was holding off until we decided how to handle Ihar's comment. | 16:04 |
viktors | dhellmann: IMO, it should be extended in incubator, at least | 16:04 |
viktors | dhellmann: ok | 16:04 |
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dhellmann | ok, I think that covers the actions from last week that aren't postponed to next week | 16:05 |
dhellmann | did I miss anything? | 16:05 |
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dhellmann | ok, moving on then | 16:05 |
dhellmann | #topic Feature Freeze Exceptions | 16:05 |
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dhellmann | #info AMQP 1.0 driver for oslo.messaging was given an FFE | 16:05 |
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kgiusti | yay! | 16:06 |
dhellmann | that was our only FFE request, and wasn't too controversial | 16:06 |
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dhellmann | kgiusti: good work so far! | 16:06 |
kgiusti | thanks all for the help. | 16:06 |
flaper87 | indeed, thanks for working on the driver and especiallyy for taking care of all the gate/test things | 16:06 |
kgiusti | docs in progress. | 16:06 |
dhellmann | is the blueprint up to date with the remaining work needed? I'm not sure what we want to do to track the stuff that has to happen in the distros | 16:06 |
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kgiusti | I can add status about that. | 16:07 |
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kgiusti | I'm in touch with the qpid packaging guy. | 16:07 |
dhellmann | kgiusti: ok, please do (ttx tends to ask me about that sort of thing in our Tuesday morning 1:1 so if you can do it by then I'd appreciate it) | 16:07 |
kgiusti | np | 16:07 |
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dhellmann | cool, thanks | 16:07 |
dhellmann | ok, let's talk about the release | 16:08 |
dhellmann | #topic Other RC-1 Work | 16:08 |
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dhellmann | I started an etherpad to try to track the *critical* changes we want to make sure we get in for our releases | 16:08 |
dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-oslo-feature-freeze | 16:08 |
dhellmann | please don't just add every little thing there, just the things we would consider blockers | 16:08 |
dhellmann | that said, please do add things :-) | 16:08 |
flaper87 | I think probably oslotests is one of the most importants in that least | 16:09 |
flaper87 | I don't mean to say the rest is not important | 16:09 |
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dhellmann | I haven't started including any bugs. We can handle those by updating their targets in launchpad | 16:09 |
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flaper87 | but I'd probably put more focus on the issues related to that one | 16:10 |
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dhellmann | flaper87: yep, we have most (all?) of those changes merged and I'm going to break my rule and do a release this afternoon | 16:10 |
beekneemech | oslotest should be just about done. | 16:10 |
flaper87 | right | 16:10 |
dhellmann | I think we're waiting for one last merge, unless it happened when I wasn't watching | 16:10 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: the never release on fridays rule? | 16:10 |
flaper87 | :D | 16:10 |
dhellmann | yes, that one :-) | 16:10 |
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bknudson | you're setting yourself up for a busy weekend. | 16:10 |
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dhellmann | yeah, but I'd rather have to fix a bug or two than lose 2 days of time for other merges to happen :-/ | 16:11 |
dhellmann | I can always revert a change if I have to | 16:11 |
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dhellmann | speaking of losing 2 days... | 16:12 |
dhellmann | #topic finishing the juno libraries | 16:12 |
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dhellmann | I audited the libs we have against the steps in CreatingANewLibrary and found some steps we had missed | 16:12 |
dhellmann | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MvXsg0XxPonJ8yAFSraIwHM940eAfoXhfBVRa6hN7MY/edit#gid=0 | 16:12 |
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dhellmann | most of the missing work is in other repositories, but we do have some documentation to update, too | 16:13 |
dhellmann | dimsum_ has already started a bunch of that work | 16:13 |
* dims_ apologies for flaky network | 16:13 | |
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dhellmann | we need to be careful that we don't have a lot of projects adopting libs that aren't set up for gate testing, so liaisons keep an eye on that before you submit changes to your projects | 16:14 |
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dhellmann | (line 18) | 16:14 |
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dhellmann | oh and line 7 | 16:15 |
beekneemech | ack | 16:15 |
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dhellmann | if you don't have edit rights on that spreadsheet and would like to help track, send me your google id privately and I'll invite you after the meeting | 16:16 |
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dhellmann | overall we're in pretty good shape, and the WIP items are not surprises, but let's not rush adoption | 16:16 |
dhellmann | questions about the data? | 16:16 |
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flaper87 | none from me | 16:16 |
beekneemech | Are we still pushing adoption? | 16:16 |
dhellmann | oh, the doc stuff on lines 27-30 is incomplete | 16:17 |
beekneemech | I thought at this poitn in the cycle we'd be holding off on that anyway. | 16:17 |
dhellmann | beekneemech: at this point, I think not. Only oslo.db in nova, AFAIK | 16:17 |
beekneemech | ok | 16:17 |
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dhellmann | they got a FFE for that work because it fixes some of the bugs nova had | 16:17 |
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beekneemech | Yeah, I think mriedem mentioned that. | 16:17 |
bknudson | let's start the rush for k-1 | 16:18 |
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YorikSar | dhellmann: Can I edit that table? oslo.concurrency had Python 3 job and it's voting. | 16:18 |
dhellmann | yes, I would like to finish the libs we have started in juno so that projects can adopt them for k-1 | 16:18 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: fixed, and send me your google id so I can add you to the editors list | 16:19 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: yorik.sar@gmail.com | 16:19 |
dhellmann | sent | 16:19 |
dhellmann | has anyone spotted anything else we should fix right away? | 16:19 |
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dhellmann | YorikSar: if those python 3 tests pass, does that mean you're not using oslotest? | 16:20 |
viktors | :) | 16:20 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: last requirements update didn't land | 16:21 |
dhellmann | ok | 16:21 |
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YorikSar | dhellmann: So waiting for new oslotest release | 16:21 |
dhellmann | that should be later today | 16:21 |
dhellmann | ok, let's move on then | 16:21 |
dhellmann | #topic Summit Planning | 16:21 |
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dhellmann | this came up on the mailing list, but it bears repeating: | 16:21 |
dhellmann | We won't have the proposal system this time around, so we need to brainstorm topics and discuss on the mailing list. | 16:21 |
dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-summit-topics | 16:21 |
bknudson | I think we'll all just be wandering around the summit chatting. | 16:22 |
dhellmann | we're probably not going to have time to do "status" sessions as we have in the past, so we need to be focused on sessions that will help us make decisions or sort out who is going to do some of the work next cycle | 16:23 |
dhellmann | bknudson: heh, we actually asked ttx to give us more time between sessions for that :-) | 16:23 |
flaper87 | I wouldn't dedicate a session to the ZMQ thing | 16:23 |
flaper87 | lets just say it in the mailing list | 16:23 |
flaper87 | that it'll be deprecated and move on | 16:23 |
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bknudson | morganfainberg: were you interested in the "Obfuscation / encryption of config option" ? | 16:24 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah. | 16:24 |
bknudson | I wound up not having time to work on this in J. | 16:24 |
dhellmann | we have some time to think of topics (several weeks) but I wanted to give everyone lots of time | 16:24 |
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morganfainberg | bknudson, definitely interested. but it was a "it'd be cool to have" not "omg must have" for J. | 16:24 |
dhellmann | flaper87: right, that might be what we do, but this lets us record the decision to do that | 16:25 |
flaper87 | dhellmann: +1 | 16:25 |
dhellmann | my (our?) motto for kilo is "write it down" | 16:25 |
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dhellmann | ok, let's run through our libs... | 16:26 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.serialization | 16:26 |
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dhellmann | beekneemech, dims, how are we looking? | 16:26 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack%2Foslo.serialization+is:open,n,z | 16:26 |
dhellmann | we're blocked on the oslotest thing, but is there anything else on that list that we must land? | 16:27 |
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beekneemech | We should probably fix the namedtuple thing. | 16:27 |
* dhellmann keeps mixing up oslo.serialization status with oslo.concurrency status and is appreciating the irony of that | 16:27 | |
beekneemech | lol | 16:28 |
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dhellmann | yeah, that one should be able to merge after we fix oslotest | 16:28 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.log | 16:28 |
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dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.log+is:open,n,z | 16:28 |
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dhellmann | oh, I should mention, if you have +2 on a library and see a translation patch, that does not require 2 +2 to merge -- just go ahead and approve it | 16:29 |
dhellmann | ditto for global requirements patches | 16:29 |
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dhellmann | assuming the tests pass, of course :-) | 16:29 |
beekneemech | Will do | 16:29 |
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YorikSar | Me too :) | 16:30 |
dhellmann | this one is a little farther away, but I think we agreed oslo.log was a k1 target anyway so no worries | 16:30 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.utils | 16:30 |
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dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.utils+is:open,n,z | 16:30 |
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dhellmann | I think we want to remove that dependency on oslo.config | 16:31 |
dhellmann | the doc stuff would be nice to have, too | 16:32 |
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dhellmann | #topic oslo.db | 16:32 |
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dhellmann | viktors, how are things going?> | 16:32 |
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dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.db+is:open,n,z | 16:32 |
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dhellmann | now that we're past feature freeze, we should be careful about what we merge | 16:33 |
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dhellmann | be thinking about settling development down to bug fixes to prepare for a 1.0 release | 16:34 |
dhellmann | I assume we're still planning for a 1.0 this cycle? | 16:34 |
zzzeek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116324/ looks like the hot one | 16:34 |
viktors | dhellmann: sure, also there is was a small API fix | 16:34 |
zzzeek | because its a real bug | 16:34 |
* viktors co-authored this | 16:35 | |
dhellmann | zzzeek: ok, let's put that on the etherpad | 16:35 |
dhellmann | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-oslo-feature-freeze | 16:35 |
zzzeek | im trusting that viktors/ etc. are definitely sure this is the format of the execption on mariadb, mysql , :) | 16:36 |
viktors | zzzeek: now we run test on real db-s, so we can be sure (a bit) | 16:37 |
viktors | also recently folks from Nova got an issue this exceptions from oslo.db - not all SQLA exception were wrapped | 16:37 |
dhellmann | are they actually using oslo.db, or are they using the incubated version? | 16:37 |
dhellmann | we need to make sure when we talk about our code that we're clear which copy we mean :-) | 16:37 |
dhellmann | I'm guilty of that, too | 16:37 |
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viktors | these was an issue with patch, thich move nova to oslo.db | 16:38 |
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dhellmann | ah | 16:38 |
zzzeek | viktors: OperationalErrors are not wrapped in all cases | 16:38 |
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dhellmann | will you have time to help them resolve that? does it involve any changes in oslo.db? | 16:38 |
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viktors | dhellmann: yes, I did, Also IMO, we should wrap all SQLA exceptions, but I'm not sure when we should do it | 16:38 |
dhellmann | make sure there is a bug for that filed against oslo.db and targeted to next-juno, please | 16:39 |
zzzeek | viktors: is there a stack trace for this unwrapped exception somewhere ? | 16:39 |
viktors | dhellmann: ok | 16:39 |
dhellmann | viktors: wrapping all exceptions could happen in kilo, maybe? | 16:39 |
viktors | dhellmann: it's would be safer, IMO | 16:40 |
dhellmann | is there anything else on the open change list for oslo.db that we should be prioritizing for juno? | 16:40 |
viktors | zzzeek: I show you test yesterday. See also discussion in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101901/44/nova/db/sqlalchemy/utils.py | 16:40 |
zzzeek | viktors: ok | 16:40 |
dhellmann | ok, let's keep going, we have several other libs to discuss | 16:41 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.messaging | 16:41 |
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dhellmann | we know we need a release for the amqp driver | 16:41 |
dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.messaging+is:open,n,z | 16:41 |
dhellmann | we have a lot of other changes pending, are any of those blockers for the release? | 16:41 |
dhellmann | flaper87: do you know? | 16:42 |
flaper87 | IIRC, there weren't blockers | 16:42 |
dhellmann | ok | 16:42 |
flaper87 | but I'll double check | 16:42 |
dhellmann | thanks, and if you find any please add them to that etherpad | 16:42 |
flaper87 | absolutely | 16:42 |
dims | flaper87: a tiny fix for ipv6 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119389/ | 16:42 |
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dims | don't know if you consider that blocking | 16:43 |
flaper87 | that's cheating, that was submitted today :P | 16:43 |
flaper87 | I should've said: As of yday, there weren't blockers | 16:43 |
flaper87 | lemme take a look | 16:43 |
dims | heh :) | 16:43 |
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dhellmann | now the topic you've all been waiting for... | 16:43 |
dhellmann | #topic oslotest | 16:43 |
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dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslotest+is:open,n,z | 16:44 |
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dhellmann | it looks like the fix for python 3 packaging has merged | 16:44 |
dhellmann | so I will create the release right after the meeting | 16:44 |
beekneemech | \o/ | 16:44 |
dhellmann | that should unblock oslo.serialization and keystone, I hope | 16:44 |
* dhellmann crosses his fingers that nothing else will break | 16:45 | |
dhellmann | are there any *other* issues with oslotest that we know about now? | 16:45 |
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bknudson | \o\ | 16:45 |
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bknudson | the other fix was for the mock patch stopall | 16:46 |
dhellmann | yep, that will be in this release | 16:46 |
beekneemech | Also merged. | 16:46 |
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dhellmann | ok, a few more to hit... | 16:47 |
dhellmann | ok, good, moving on then | 16:47 |
dhellmann | oops | 16:47 |
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dhellmann | #topic cliff | 16:47 |
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dhellmann | #info release planned for monday, long overdue | 16:47 |
dhellmann | nothing major, but we've had some bug fixes and features unreleased for a while now | 16:47 |
dhellmann | #topic pbr | 16:47 |
dhellmann | #info release planned for monday, also overdue | 16:47 |
dhellmann | same | 16:47 |
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dhellmann | #topic oslo.i18n | 16:47 |
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dhellmann | this is one of our new libs | 16:47 |
dhellmann | I think we're ready for a 1.0 release this cycle. Does anyone have any reason not to proceed with that? | 16:48 |
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* beekneemech does not | 16:48 | |
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dhellmann | lots of adoptions already | 16:49 |
dhellmann | cinder designate glance glance_store glance.store heat ironic keystone nova oslo.concurrency oslo.db oslo.log oslo.middleware oslo.serialization oslo.utils python-openstackclient python-saharaclient requirements sahara zaqar | 16:49 |
dhellmann | #topic stevedore | 16:49 |
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dhellmann | same question | 16:49 |
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dhellmann | that library has been pretty stable for almost a year now, so I don't see any issues | 16:49 |
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beekneemech | +1 | 16:50 |
dims | dhellmann: there were some bugs logged around tar.gz etc for stevedore | 16:50 |
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dhellmann | dims: ah, I think that's an artifact of our wheel publishing | 16:51 |
dims | dhellmann: ok | 16:51 |
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dhellmann | #action dhellmann ensure stevedore builds universal wheels | 16:52 |
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YorikSar | MemcacheClient = type('MemcacheClient', (object,), dict(memcache.Client.__dict__)) | 16:53 |
YorikSar | Ooops, sorry. | 16:53 |
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dhellmann | heh | 16:53 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.rootwrap | 16:53 |
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dhellmann | this is also fairly stable | 16:53 |
zzzeek | heh | 16:53 |
dhellmann | we have the new server mode this release, but I think we can safely call it 1.0 | 16:53 |
dhellmann | ttx: any thoughts? ^^ | 16:53 |
dhellmann | #action dhellmann verify with ttx that oslo.rootwrap is still ok for a 1.0 release | 16:54 |
dhellmann | #topic oslo.utils version | 16:54 |
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dhellmann | we didn't cover versioning for oslo.utils earlier | 16:54 |
dhellmann | are we ready for 1.0, or should we wait for k1? | 16:55 |
YorikSar | dhellmann: I tried my best to not touch any existing rootwrap codepaths with my work, so it should be safe to assume nothig changed there, just added a new feature. | 16:55 |
dhellmann | YorikSar: excellent | 16:55 |
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dhellmann | dims, beekneemech : thoughts on oslo.utils? | 16:55 |
dims | dhellmann: ready for 1.0 (oslo.utils) | 16:55 |
dhellmann | ok | 16:56 |
dhellmann | #info oslo.utils will be released as 1.0 this cycle | 16:56 |
dhellmann | I hate to rush this last one | 16:56 |
dhellmann | #topic when to branch stable/juno (or proposed) | 16:56 |
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dhellmann | we talked about doing this early, and we have a couple of changes we need to land in the incubator before we can | 16:56 |
dhellmann | see "blocking branching oslo-incubator for rc-1" near the top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-oslo-feature-freeze | 16:57 |
dhellmann | when that jsonutils fix backport lands in the incubator, I will talk to ttx about branching | 16:57 |
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dims | dhellmann: sounds good to me | 16:57 |
dhellmann | it will probably be juno/proposed rather than stable/juno, because the stable branches use different acls | 16:57 |
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dhellmann | at that point, we can start submitting changes to remove anything we graduated in this cycle, so go ahead and start preparing those patches for your libs now :-) | 16:58 |
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beekneemech | git rm ftw :-) | 16:58 |
dhellmann | my favorite command | 16:58 |
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dhellmann | #topic review priorities for this week | 16:58 |
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dhellmann | see the etherpad linked several times above | 16:58 |
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dhellmann | and bug fixes on our normal dashboard view | 16:59 |
dhellmann | remember, don't merge any new features not approved for a FFE | 16:59 |
dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:59 |
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dhellmann | < 1 min left | 16:59 |
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dhellmann | if you have anything you need to bring up, we can continue talking in #openstack-oslo | 16:59 |
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dhellmann | otherwise, nice job on the feature freeze this week, everyone! | 17:00 |
dims | w00t! | 17:00 |
beekneemech | Yay us! | 17:00 |
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dhellmann | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Fri Sep 5 17:01:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-09-05-16.00.html | 17:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-09-05-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-09-05-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
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