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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 14:00:04 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| boden | \o | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
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| alaski | hi | 14:00 |
| mriedem | hi | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Juno Status | 14:00 |
| leifz | o/ lurking. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno Status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have RC1 cut | 14:00 |
| n0ano | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 14:01 |
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| mjturek | o/ | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | is the list of bugs that might trigger RC2 | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but its testing time I guess | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone got any RC related things? | 14:01 |
| bfic | hi guys | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Kilo | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so juno-rc is cut, so master is now kilo | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info nova-specs are open for kilo but template changes may be on the way | 14:02 |
| bauzas | when do you plan to open kilo specs ? | 14:02 |
| bauzas | oh | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info master is open for kilo | 14:03 |
| dansmith | jogo had some patches up for templates | 14:03 |
| dansmith | if they're not in, we should make short work of them | 14:03 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125153 | 14:03 |
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| dansmith | is the bottom one | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info please reach out to the people who have −2s on your patches if the need to be removed, once blueprints are re-approved for kilo, etc | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: good point, I meant to hunt those out | 14:04 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: oh, speaking of un--2ing patches and blueprints | 14:04 |
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| dansmith | a few of us were discussing whether we need a spec for general objects work this time, or just a blueprint to "keep doing what we've been doing" | 14:04 |
| dansmith | and it seemed like the consensus was that a spec is rather meaningless (the one for juno definitely was) | 14:05 |
| belliott | less specs is better | 14:05 |
| dansmith | are you cool with that? we talked about not always requiring specs this time for obvious stuff | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: good question, does the blueprint help your tracking? I am good just ignoring the need for a blueprint | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, cool, so yes | 14:05 |
| dansmith | I think a blueprint helps tie together things that are ranom object conversions and such yeah | 14:05 |
| danpb | dansmith: i think everyone understands what the objects work is about so a spec doesn't add any value there | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info new blueprint policy means the same things need a blueprint, but they don't all need a spec | 14:06 |
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| danpb | so i'm fine with ignoring specs for that | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/kilo.blueprints.html#when-is-a-blueprint-needed | 14:06 |
| mriedem | +1 for objects bp for tracking | 14:06 |
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| dansmith | okay, I'll file a blueprint then | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: cool, drop me a link, and I will approve it for you | 14:07 |
| dansmith | okay | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't really mind not having a blueprint either, since its refactoring really | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but tracking can help | 14:07 |
| dansmith | a blueprint helps, | 14:07 |
| dansmith | even if it's just so we have a common topic in gerrit | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, true | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | helps find the reviews | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | one more thing... | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | stuff that had code approved, but didn't make juno | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should try get that merged ASAP | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I will try help people through with the paperwork | 14:09 |
| mriedem | code approved? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | bp approved? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, first code approved | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | theres a few of those | 14:09 |
| mriedem | e.g. the tags stuff | 14:09 |
| mriedem | the code wasn't approved, | 14:09 |
| mriedem | it's my understanding that has to go through spec review again? | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | and be put into a project priority theme? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just missed freeze too | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, we are getting ahead | 14:10 |
| mriedem | sorry, an example would help if there is one | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the stuff that just missed juno-3, etc | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm, no garyk, I think he had one | 14:10 |
| mriedem | so not bps | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | it was a blueprint | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | code was approved | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | but got pulled | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | as gate was jammed | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets fast track that in, | 14:11 |
| mriedem | don't we need a 2 week policy discussion on that first :) | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was going for any nova-driver approving those specs themselves | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: screw that | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the next one | 14:11 |
| danpb | when re-submitting specs for Kilo, should we leave the existing spec in nova-specs.git for juno, or do a git mv into the kilo directory ? | 14:11 |
| dansmith | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/kilo-objects | 14:12 |
| mriedem | danpb: i assumed it moved to kilo | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | danpb: it should be left behind I think, mikal has a review that makes that clearer | 14:12 |
| mriedem | oh | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I was hoping for a mv, its easier to review | 14:12 |
| danpb | mriedem: exactly why i asked :-) | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | the ML had a thread on this | 14:12 |
| dansmith | but, template changes? | 14:13 |
| mriedem | right | 14:13 |
| mriedem | we have project priorities now | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, has to pass the tests, we might alter ones that get merged before we change the template | 14:13 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: ah, right, cool | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I am thinking we just wedge in the stuff that has code waiting that allready review, and mostly there | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | then tidy up what we have to | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | so in the ML we were talking about a git commit tag "Previously-approved: Juno" | 14:14 |
| dansmith | makes sense | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | and a link to the juno spec in the new spec | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | keep it simple | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | does that work for people? | 14:14 |
| garyk | works for me | 14:15 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: is that going into the template? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: or is that part of mikal's patch you mentioned? | 14:15 |
| garyk | just the following does not make sense: link to the juno spec in the new spec | 14:15 |
| garyk | what is the new spec? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info add this to the commit message for any kilo spec submissions where the spec was approved during juno: "Previously-approved: Juno" | 14:16 |
| mriedem | garyk: i'm assuming link to the juno spec review from the kilo spec | 14:16 |
| mriedem | or whatevs | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: git commit, then link inside the spec | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think thats easiest? | 14:16 |
| garyk | mriedem: ok, thanks | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: sorry, yeah | 14:16 |
| mriedem | i guess we'll get slapped when we eff up so that's fine | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sure | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are just making it up as we go along right now | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | so do something sensible, so we spot it, is the key | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | my plan is to try and triage open reviews, so we get some priorities on the spec review queue | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the hope stuff doesn't get lost of weeks in there | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | any confusion, just ping a nova-driver in IRC, and hope we can try and help | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, does that all make sense? | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | less things need a spec | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | previously approved specs need a rubber stamp | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | if code was already approved, add a node in the review comments | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | in the later case, single nova-driver can approve? | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | (i.e. I will try push those along) | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the bike has nice shed, with a view of the coast | 14:20 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Gate status | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:20 | |
| johnthetubaguy | hows we doing | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | interesting thread on stable branches being screwed | 14:20 |
| garyk | MS for vmware is broken | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | but hows master | 14:20 |
| dansmith | I think we landed a bunch of nova fixes for the gate last week | 14:20 |
| mriedem | one bad one was reverted last night | 14:20 |
| mriedem | and a couple other top gate bugs were skipped | 14:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: which? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: sdague has a big list in the dev ML this morning | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm | 14:21 |
| mriedem | with blame all around :L) | 14:21 |
| dansmith | sdague has lots of large ML threads.. hint? | 14:21 |
| dansmith | subject line? | 14:21 |
| mriedem | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/047639.html | 14:21 |
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| dansmith | oh, that was yesterday | 14:21 |
| mriedem | Bug 1375108 - Failed to reboot instance successfully with EC2 is reverted | 14:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1375108 in nova "Failed to reboot instance successfully with EC2 " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375108 | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | Bug 1323658 - Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state with Neutron is skipped | 14:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1323658 in nova "Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state with Neutron" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1323658 | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | Bug 1374175 - test_server_cfn_init failed in gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow: AssertionError: Timed out waiting for 10.1.0.4 to become reachable is skipped | 14:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1374175 in tempest "test_server_cfn_init failed in gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow: AssertionError: Timed out waiting for 10.1.0.4 to become reachable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374175 | 14:22 |
| garyk | mriedem: is that icdehouse or juno? | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | garyk everything | 14:22 |
| mriedem | that leaves Bug 1357055 - Race to delete shared subnet in Tempest neutron full jobs as top dog | 14:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357055 in nova "Race to delete shared subnet in Tempest neutron full jobs" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357055 | 14:22 |
| garyk | ok, thanks, it was not clear from the subject | 14:22 |
| mriedem | dansmith: ^ we thought that was fixed | 14:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | wow, OK | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so help required, basically | 14:23 |
| mriedem | basically sdague is mad as hell and he's not going to take it anymore :) | 14:23 |
| mriedem | yeah it's the same old story | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, that could wind him up | 14:23 |
| mriedem | so neutron peeps helping out on Bug 1357055 would be nice | 14:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357055 in nova "Race to delete shared subnet in Tempest neutron full jobs" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357055 | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | is it just me, or do we need to re-think the nova and neutron integration | 14:24 |
| mriedem | oh god, you want to side rail the meeting? | 14:24 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: meaning? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | we need to work on the neutronv2 api cleanup in kilo | 14:24 |
| mriedem | as a project priority | 14:24 |
| mriedem | beagles is on the case | 14:24 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: +3 | 14:24 |
| garyk | mriedem: agree 100% | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I guess I mean neutronv2 api "cleanup" | 14:25 |
| garyk | but refactoring it is not the way to go | 14:25 |
| dansmith | okay | 14:25 |
| mriedem | garyk: let's not start in the meeting please | 14:25 |
| garyk | that is keeping the same code flow where an instance create has 16 neutron calls is worng! | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: feels like we need something less racy, like I remember us talking about in salt lake city | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: right | 14:25 |
| mriedem | yeah so we want bulk requests to neutron | 14:26 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yes, part of the problem is that it was designed to behave like nova-network, but can't | 14:26 |
| mriedem | rather than the billion that we have now as garyk points out | 14:26 |
| garyk | mriedem: agree 100% | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: right | 14:26 |
| dansmith | right | 14:26 |
| dansmith | I think we probably need neutron api changes to make it happen as well, | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | i think geekinutah actually has an old bp for some bulk request stuff | 14:26 |
| dansmith | so redesiging our interface without that is likely to result in similar problems | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thinking a cross project session, but thats maybe a waste | 14:26 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:26 |
| garyk | dansmith: correct. it would be good to prosoe them at summit and then hopefully can get that moving forwards | 14:26 |
| mriedem | so if we can go into the summit with a list of 'this is what makes this really bad and we need x y z api changes in neutron', can we figure that out? | 14:27 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: a cross project session is essentail | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I almost want neutron to give us a python lib where we can "get_configuration" that we pass to the nic driver | 14:27 |
| garyk | mriedem: yes, there should be no reason why we cannot figure this out. | 14:27 |
| garyk | dansmith: and aaron managed to figiure out the events stuff | 14:27 |
| mriedem | i'm pretty sure markmcclain had some ideas at the nova meetup in portland | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we keep talking, but we need to do something | 14:28 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that'd be nice, but... | 14:28 |
| dansmith | this is why we need project priorities, IMHO :) | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | right | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't disagree | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways | 14:28 |
| mriedem | we also need similar things with cinder, but not as critical | 14:28 |
| beagles | fwiw: I brought the subject up in the neutron meeting earlier this week... there is also an item on refactoring/rewriting this code on the neutron etherpad for kilo as well. | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | to summarize on the gate, it's better after last night's round of reverts and skips | 14:29 |
| mriedem | classification rates are high http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html | 14:29 |
| garyk | mriedem: and not to throw a spanner int he works but the same will be with the scheduler when that moves out. | 14:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, so we should fix that | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: cool, so its clearer what to fix, which is good | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean, lets move on | 14:30 |
| bauzas | garyk: well, we're precisely working on cleaning up the interfaces for the scheduler, so even that's a fair point, there should not be so much hits to do | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should make sure there is a summit session on this "nova interactions" I will raise it after the meeting | 14:30 |
| bauzas | +1 | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:30 |
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| mriedem | oh btw, | 14:30 |
| mriedem | is there a list of design sessions to vote on? | 14:30 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics | 14:31 |
| mriedem | is there a list that's not an etherpad of doom? | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | not as far as I know | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | please comment in the etherpad for now | 14:31 |
| mriedem | i'm too dizzy | 14:31 |
| mriedem | the colors... | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: there is a button to turn that off | 14:32 |
| n0ano | maybe an official vote process on the ML would be good | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | well in juno there were actual pages in some tracking thing for the summit | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: there was a plan from ttx on the ML | 14:32 |
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| n0ano | if it's older than yesterday I missed it, I'll have to go back | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal hasn't told me his plans yet, but I suspect there will be a proposed list, that could be reviewed / voted on | 14:33 |
| bauzas | at least, there is a choice to make in between what will have a 40-min format session and what will be part of the contributors meetup on the last day | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: its tagged with [all] not [nova] if that helps | 14:33 |
| bauzas | s/make/do (French spotted) | 14:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | honestly, I think the meet up day will be deciding *what* we do in kilo | 14:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | including discussing the details as required | 14:34 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: you mean about prioritizing reviews and blueprints ? | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | with spill over from the previous two days of sessions | 14:34 |
| mriedem | we'll need more than 40 minutes if we don't have a rough idea of the details pre-summit | 14:34 |
| bauzas | mriedem: +1 | 14:34 |
| mriedem | e.g. alaski's grand plan for cells :) | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, some things might need two slots | 14:35 |
| mriedem | the meetup is nice for free-form topic discussion | 14:35 |
| mriedem | the design summit is not... | 14:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | true | 14:35 |
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| alaski | mriedem: I'll be sending out a ML post at some point, otherwise we'll get nowhere | 14:35 |
| bauzas | mriedem: hence the idea of the last 3rd day for this | 14:35 |
| mriedem | ok, cool | 14:35 |
| mriedem | i'm not even opposed to slides for this stuff | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly I see the last day as overflow and getting concrete lists of things to do | 14:36 |
| mriedem | jaypipes loves him some slides :) | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: specs are ideal | 14:36 |
| mriedem | sure | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | we were talking about requiring a spec for sessions | 14:36 |
| mriedem | but i need animation! | 14:36 |
| alaski | mriedem: no slides! :) | 14:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: some sort of ascii cartoon is fine right? | 14:36 |
| mriedem | alright sorry to derail | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways | 14:37 |
| dansmith | are we off the rails? | 14:37 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | lol | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, any more for any more | 14:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | summit plan coming soon, please express ideas in the etherpad | 14:37 |
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| mriedem | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125514/ | 14:37 |
| mriedem | review that ^ | 14:37 |
| mriedem | for rc2 i guess | 14:37 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: :P | 14:37 |
| mriedem | oh is there a bootlegging session tomorrow? | 14:38 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: dansmith: ^ | 14:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: docs | 14:38 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, any more for any more? | 14:38 |
| dansmith | please no | 14:38 |
| mriedem | yeah one sec | 14:38 |
| mriedem | containers stuff - has anyone checked with those guys to see if they are on track for something to be presented at the summit? | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I haven't, I will email them | 14:39 |
| mriedem | they seem to go into hiding for months at a time | 14:39 |
| dansmith | they're in their containers | 14:39 |
| mriedem | hi-o | 14:39 |
| dansmith | isolation, man | 14:39 |
| bauzas | mriedem: they're designing APIs AFAIK | 14:39 |
| garyk | mriedem: i think that they are jaded with the removal of the driver | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cheaper to ship them that way | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways | 14:39 |
| mriedem | ok, that is all | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | happy reviewing | 14:39 |
| bauzas | mriedem: and they were asking for integration with the current scheduler | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | watch out for those rc bugs | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 14:40:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-10-02-14.00.html | 14:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-10-02-14.00.txt | 14:40 |
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| jaypipes | for the record, I've never used or presented slides during a design summit session. | 14:40 |
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| garyk | jaypipes: then you have never lived :) | 14:41 |
| jaypipes | lol :) | 14:41 |
| garyk | jaypipes: i did and it took the feature 2 years to land. so next time is just a blank deck | 14:41 |
| jaypipes | garyk: see, there you go :) | 14:42 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 15:00:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| rushil | \o | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | good morning/afternoon/evening ! | 15:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:00 |
| scottda | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | Hello | 15:00 |
| csaba | hi | 15:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 15:00 |
| jasonsb | hi (i'm new) | 15:00 |
| bswartz | so I don't have much of an agenda today | 15:01 |
| bswartz | jasonsb: welcome! | 15:01 |
| jasonsb | thank you | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | does anyone have something they want added to the agenda? | 15:01 |
| bswartz | any topics to discuss? | 15:01 |
| bswartz | if not this will be a short meeting | 15:01 |
| bswartz | not that that's a bad thing | 15:02 |
| jasonsb | (hoping to contribute to project esp for HDS equipment) | 15:02 |
| bswartz | Hitachi? | 15:02 |
| jasonsb | yessir | 15:02 |
| bswartz | awesome | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | I'll get your contact info after the meeting | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | okay so real quick dev status update | 15:03 |
| jasonsb | (snds gd) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dev status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| vponomaryov | Dev status for last week: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 1) Added more filters for list API | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | server BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/improve-share-list-filtering | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | server gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125094/ | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | client BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+spec/improve-share-list-filtering | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | client gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124982/ | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | status: ready for review | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | 2) Modified Horizon with added share-server page in admin tab | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | change: #link https://github.com/NetApp/horizon/pull/2 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | Also several minor changes to docs | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | thats the main | 15:04 |
| bswartz | thanks vponomaryov! | 15:04 |
| bswartz | so there's no bugs against RC2 that I know about | 15:04 |
| bswartz | so with any luck there won't be a RC3 | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | But there are a couple of open items | 15:04 |
| bswartz | ? | 15:04 |
| vponomaryov | Manilaclient has no realese candidate. | 15:05 |
| vponomaryov | Manilaclient does not have "kilo" dev cycle. | 15:05 |
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| vponomaryov | manilaclient depends on server state, so we should make releases for it too | 15:05 |
| bswartz | yeah clients don't get RCs | 15:05 |
| bswartz | they just get releases | 15:05 |
| xyang1 | are there any pending client side changes for Juno? | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | any release is Ok | 15:06 |
| bswartz | check how cinder does it: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-cinderclient | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | xyang1: there were all kinds of changes | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | I will tag a version I suppose | 15:06 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: are they all merged? | 15:06 |
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| bswartz | but the release management on the client is way simpler | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I'm not aware of anything that's waiting | 15:07 |
| bswartz | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/manilaclient+status:open,n,z | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | these are all kilo targetted | 15:07 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, lets make juno release and change version to kilo | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay will do | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #action bswartz will release juno version of python-manilaclient | 15:08 |
| bswartz | so please keep testing with RC2 | 15:08 |
| bswartz | this is our last chance to find any bugs and fix them before we have a public release | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: no one denied back-ports | 15:09 |
| bswartz | the master branch is now open for kilo changes but please hold off on merging a ton of stuff | 15:09 |
| bswartz | there's no hurry to merge for kilo-1 | 15:10 |
| bswartz | in a week or two we'll get to merging the backlog if kilo-targeted changes | 15:10 |
| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | so I'll give one more chance to ask questions or raise new topics | 15:11 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: some summit news? | 15:11 |
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| bswartz | I don't have any summit news -- and that concerns me | 15:11 |
| bswartz | I need to get with ttx and find out about how much time we'll get at the design summit | 15:12 |
| jasonsb | i would like to meet up with everybody | 15:12 |
| jasonsb | i'll be there | 15:12 |
| bswartz | jasonsb: you'll be in paris? | 15:12 |
| jasonsb | yes | 15:12 |
| bswartz | great! | 15:12 |
| jasonsb | just booked it all | 15:12 |
| bswartz | many of us will be there | 15:12 |
| bswartz | and this project will get some time/space for discussing designs for kilo | 15:13 |
| bswartz | just don't know how much yet | 15:13 |
| bswartz | #action bswartz get details about the design summit so we can finalize plans | 15:13 |
| bswartz | okay it sounds like that's it | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | we have a bunch of topics for paris | 15:14 |
| bswartz | so I'm sure we'll have to prioritize it all and pick the stuff that's most interesting | 15:14 |
| bswartz | no matter how much time we get | 15:14 |
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| bswartz | okay that's it | 15:14 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 15:15 |
| bswartz | shortest meeting in a long time! | 15:15 |
| xyang1 | thank | 15:15 |
| rushil | thanjs | 15:15 |
| rushil | *thanks | 15:15 |
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| jasonsb | thanks and nice to meet | 15:15 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 15:15:32 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-10-02-15.00.html | 15:15 |
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| kozhukalov | hi everyone | 16:01 |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:01 |
| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:01 |
| izinovik | hi | 16:01 |
| meow-nofer___ | hi | 16:01 |
| azemlyanov | hi | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 16:01:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
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| kozhukalov | mihgen: your turn | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | hi guys | 16:03 |
| mihgen | our key drivers for the current release are the following: | 16:04 |
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| mihgen | 1) Juno support in 6.0; 2) Pluggable architecture MVP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/cinder-neutron-plugins-in-fuel, 3) 100-nodes support certification: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/100-nodes-support | 16:04 |
| mihgen | Release schedule is available here with all important dates: | 16:05 |
| mihgen | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/6.0_Release_Schedule | 16:05 |
| mihgen | that's all from short announcement, let's move on the agenda | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | mihgen: thanx | 16:06 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic CI BVT status (nurla) | 16:06 |
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| kozhukalov | nurla: around? | 16:06 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, maybe it is better to postpone this topic? | 16:07 |
| mihgen | let's pospone | 16:07 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Juno support status (mattymo) | 16:08 |
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| mattymo | We're moving along in Juno with some really good pace now finally | 16:08 |
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| mattymo | A lot of things fell into place this week. Neutron glance and some client dependency issues were fixed | 16:08 |
| mattymo | All we have broken right now is haproxy (already rebuilt but not tested) and murano package renaming, which should be also resolved today | 16:09 |
| mattymo | We can already deploy Juno with all modes, except Murano and with HA on CentOS. HA Ubuntu works | 16:09 |
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| mattymo | We're expecting a community friendly ISO hopefully next week | 16:09 |
| mattymo | (that's it from me) | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | mattymo: thanx a lot | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:10 |
| dmitryme | btw fuel core, please review CRs required for Juno support | 16:10 |
| eshumkher | so is it correct that partner can test their feature against Juno already? | 16:10 |
| mattymo | dmitryme+++++++++ | 16:10 |
| dmitryme | it is just really annoing to build custom ISO with 20+ patches | 16:11 |
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| dmitryme | *annoying | 16:11 |
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| dmitryme | that is all :-) | 16:12 |
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| mattymo | eshumkher, in HA, wait till tomorrow. As long as you don't need murano for testing | 16:12 |
| dmitryme | from em | 16:12 |
| dmitryme | * me | 16:12 |
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| eshumkher | mattymo, thanks, got it | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | ok, moving on | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | #topic external CIÂ (eshumakher) | 16:13 |
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| eshumkher | ok, my turn | 16:14 |
| eshumkher | i believe everyone saw the email in the ML | 16:14 |
| eshumkher | are devops folks here? | 16:14 |
| eshumkher | igor, sasha? | 16:14 |
| mihgen | teran__: ^^ | 16:15 |
| izinovik | devops: ^ | 16:15 |
| eshumkher | whatever, my proposal is to describe the strategy for Fuel external CI | 16:15 |
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| eshumkher | make a couple of rounds of discussions | 16:15 |
| teran__ | eshumkher: yeap | 16:15 |
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| eshumkher | make an announcement and webcast for those who are interested | 16:16 |
| eshumkher | and move on with implementation | 16:16 |
| eshumkher | teran__, bookwar, would you drive it? | 16:16 |
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| mihgen | I think you guys should discuss it verbally first | 16:17 |
| mihgen | understand use cases better | 16:17 |
| teran__ | eshumkher: yeah, we're planing to start doc implementation in few time | 16:17 |
| teran__ | eshumkher: but not right now | 16:17 |
| mihgen | might be we can have do something simple for the beginning | 16:17 |
| mihgen | documentation doesn't solve the issue, right? | 16:17 |
| teran__ | eshumkher: I see it's high for you, but we need to determine how it wil look first | 16:17 |
| mihgen | let's meet and understand use cases - then see what can be made fast | 16:18 |
| eshumkher | yes, the doc is an output | 16:18 |
| mihgen | I want to participate in the discussion | 16:18 |
| eshumkher | but someone should work on the process, who will take ownership? | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | ok, let's give an action for eshumkher to talk to devops guys verbally | 16:18 |
| bookwar | eshumkher: I'll take it from CI side | 16:18 |
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| eshumkher | ok | 16:19 |
| eshumkher | but i would let’s make an action item to get external CI’s for 6.0 | 16:19 |
| eshumkher | relese | 16:19 |
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| eshumkher | *release | 16:19 |
| kozhukalov | #action eshumkher talks to devops guys about external ci for plugins | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:20 |
| eshumkher | yep | 16:20 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Cinder/Neutron plugins (evgeniyl, nmarkov) | 16:20 |
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| evgeniyl__ | hi | 16:20 |
| evgeniyl__ | We have draft for the feature, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125608/3 you can review and leave your comments there. | 16:20 |
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| evgeniyl__ | Stanislaw B. started to create scripts for lbaas configuration and installation, it will be one of the POC plugins. | 16:20 |
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| meow-nofer___ | there are a few already on first patchset, feel free to join | 16:21 |
| evgeniyl__ | Also we are going to use ClusterFS and/or NFS as an example of Cinder plugin. | 16:21 |
| evgeniyl__ | The first thing which we want to do is to make POC of LBaaS plugin. | 16:21 |
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| mihgen | evgeniyl__: thanks, good | 16:22 |
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| kozhukalov | great | 16:22 |
| meow-nofer___ | there is also another spec for fuel plugins as a whole | 16:23 |
| meow-nofer___ | feel free to contribute, as well | 16:23 |
| meow-nofer___ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118610/ | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | ok, thanx guys | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | #topic reduce upgrade tarball size aka diff-based repo (ikalnitsky) | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reduce upgrade tarball size aka diff-based repo (ikalnitsky) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:24 | |
| ikalnitsky | hi guys | 16:24 |
| ikalnitsky | the feature is in progress. here the spec: | 16:24 |
| kozhukalov | hi | 16:24 |
| ikalnitsky | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121591/ | 16:24 |
| ikalnitsky | as for now, we have draft versions of scripts for generating diff-based repos, so we can compare a full-repo with diff-based one. | 16:24 |
| ikalnitsky | unfortunately, the results are not as we expected earlier - a diff-based repo weights 40-50% less in compare with a full one. | 16:24 |
| ikalnitsky | there is an idea to use deltarpm/deltadeb tools which should allow us to distribute diff-based packages. | 16:25 |
| ikalnitsky | as for other parts - nailgun and astute don't require any changes and works fine. i belive we can start configuring a jenkins job and change our make system on Monday. | 16:25 |
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| mihgen | ikalnitsky: ok. are you aligned with devops team on CI jobs? | 16:26 |
| ikalnitsky | any comments on the spec are welcome. :) | 16:26 |
| angdraug | are we still including the whole set of packages into an update? are we really repackaging everything for new releases? | 16:26 |
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| ikalnitsky | mihgen: yep | 16:26 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: in 6.0, for example, we have a lot of system packages that have changed another hash sum | 16:27 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: so we need to distribute them too | 16:27 |
| angdraug | did we have to change them? | 16:27 |
| kozhukalov | did you think about kind of binary deduplication? | 16:28 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug: not directly. we change, for example, just one library, so all packages that are linked to that library statically should be rebuilt | 16:28 |
| kozhukalov | is it possible at all? | 16:28 |
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| angdraug | I seriously hope we don't have statically linked binaries :/ | 16:29 |
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| ikalnitsky | angdraug: as far as i know, we do. :( | 16:29 |
| angdraug | how many? | 16:30 |
| angdraug | examples? | 16:30 |
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| ikalnitsky | angdraug: i don't have a number. i need to request osci team, i think. but as far as i remember, some packages link statically to libssl. | 16:31 |
| angdraug | $ diff -u 5.1.html 5.1.1.html |grep ^+|wc -l | 16:32 |
| angdraug | 502 | 16:32 |
| angdraug | $ grep deb 5.1.html|wc -l | 16:32 |
| angdraug | 1181 | 16:32 |
| angdraug | so at least half of our packages are exactly the same between 5.1 and 5.1.1 so far | 16:32 |
| mihgen | folks can you guys discuss it in more details in #fuel-dev please? | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | and that is why diff repo takes 50% only of the 5.1 | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | moving on | 16:33 |
| mihgen | angdraug: ikalnitsky don't forget about it though ;) | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | #topic granular deployment: needs config files upload mechanism, testing, will be ready for a merge as experimental by the end of next week (dshulyak) | 16:33 |
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| dshulyak_ | hi | 16:33 |
| kozhukalov | hi | 16:33 |
| dshulyak_ | we need to prepare configs for all roles | 16:34 |
| dshulyak_ | next week i will show demo with tasklib approach, and difference with using ansible as task executor | 16:34 |
| dshulyak_ | if everyone will be ok with tasklib api, we can start merging patches | 16:34 |
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| dshulyak_ | as experimental | 16:34 |
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| dshulyak_ | that is all from me | 16:35 |
| kozhukalov | sounds great, but what about mixing different disk allocations for different roles when they are on the same node? | 16:36 |
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| mihgen | dshulyak: looking forward to see a demo.. next week? | 16:36 |
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| dshulyak_ | kozhukalov: this is more about plugable architecture, meow-nofer have POC in ceph plugin for doing such things | 16:37 |
| dshulyak_ | mihgen: yes, it works already, so next week for sure | 16:38 |
| kozhukalov | ok, moving on | 16:38 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Status of implentation of 1-1 mapping between nova-compute and vSphere cluster (izinovik) | 16:38 |
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| izinovik | hello | 16:39 |
| izinovik | Blueprint: | 16:39 |
| izinovik | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/1-1-nova-compute-vsphere-cluster-mapping | 16:39 |
| kozhukalov | hello | 16:39 |
| izinovik | Specification of 1-1 mapping: | 16:39 |
| izinovik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118998 | 16:39 |
| izinovik | Here is more friendly HTML generated variant: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/98/118998/13/check/gate-fuel-specs-docs/f7a48a8/doc/build/html/specs/6.0/1-1-nova-compute-vsphere-cluster-mapping.html | 16:39 |
| izinovik | fuel-library/ part: | 16:39 |
| izinovik | #link https://review.openstack.org/122242 | 16:39 |
| izinovik | People who are familiar with Puppet are welcome | 16:39 |
| izinovik | I manually tested CentOS and Ubuntu with vCenter (both in simple and HA deployment modes). | 16:39 |
| izinovik | Deployment works smooth, but CentOS cannot provision VMs due to bug #1376683 (srogov@ is | 16:39 |
| izinovik | working on it with good progress). OpenStack on Ubuntu works fine. | 16:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1376683 in fuel "Service glance-api not starting when deploy HA and Glance backend is vCenter" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1376683 | 16:39 |
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| izinovik | Currently from end user perspective everything look same, but we need significant UI | 16:40 |
| izinovik | changes to implement specification of different credentials for different vSphere | 16:40 |
| izinovik | clusters and provide an opportunity to add vSphere clusters to deployed OpenStack environment. | 16:40 |
| izinovik | More blueprints will follow for UI part and Nailgun. | 16:40 |
| eshumkher | don’t you think it can be done in 1 BP? | 16:40 |
| izinovik | I do not know | 16:40 |
| eshumkher | just to extend the one you have? | 16:41 |
| izinovik | in my opinion current spec is a bit overloaded | 16:41 |
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| izinovik | and scope of blueprint is too wide (IMO) | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | izinovik: thanx | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | if no q then moving on | 16:42 |
| izinovik | ok, thats all from my side | 16:42 |
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| kozhukalov | #topic Anonymous statistics collecor (akislitsky) | 16:43 |
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| akislitsky_ | hi | 16:43 |
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| akislitsky_ | we have prototype of stats collector, repo on stackforge, working on saving action logs in the Nailgun. next week we are planning to integrate services together and process data from Nailgun. as analytic engine we are trying to use Elasticsearch. it provides all our reports requirements. next week demo we can show data exchange between Nailgun and collector. and may be some UI for analityc based on Kibana. also we are initiated implem | 16:43 |
| akislitsky_ | entation of Nailgun UI. | 16:43 |
| mihgen | what about VM with it running? | 16:44 |
| mihgen | I think we need some fixtures generated for collector | 16:44 |
| mihgen | in order to be able to see how it reports data | 16:44 |
| akislitsky_ | VM will be ordered next week by DevOps | 16:45 |
| mihgen | and make it available as soon as possible to review - so we can react and change approach for reports before release | 16:45 |
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| mihgen | why only next week?) | 16:45 |
| mihgen | per your request or devops can't do it earlier? | 16:45 |
| teran__ | mihgen: akislitsky_ we can do it anytime | 16:46 |
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| teran__ | mihgen: akislitsky_ anyway we need packages built by OSCI | 16:46 |
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| mihgen | what packages? I'm fine if we start with simplest bash scripts, and then replace it week later with packages | 16:47 |
| akislitsky_ | ok, that will be great. all is ready for packaging now - repo with setup.py, requirements and tox. | 16:47 |
| teran__ | akislitsky_: so please request OSCI to package that stuff | 16:47 |
| mihgen | tox run on VM for the beginning is all what we need to start seeing how it works | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | this is not production VM (I assume) | 16:47 |
| mihgen | it's for development | 16:48 |
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| mihgen | like fuelweb.vm.mirantis.net:8000 | 16:48 |
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| teran__ | mihgen: not development - testing | 16:48 |
| akislitsky_ | teran__, I will request OSCI | 16:48 |
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| akislitsky_ | for developing we don't need VMs | 16:48 |
| kozhukalov | 10 minutes - 2 topics | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:49 |
| mihgen | akislitsky: it's for me to see it, and give feedback | 16:49 |
| mihgen | and for QA | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | so let's make it easy for me and some business ppl who don't know how to run tox :) | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | let's move on.. | 16:49 |
| teran__ | akislitsky_: mihgen I thing we could start performance testing when it will be done | 16:49 |
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| akislitsky_ | mihgen, got it | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | #topic authx improvements (prmtl) | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "authx improvements (prmtl) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:50 | |
| prmtl | we are having very good progress, first changes are on review | 16:50 |
| prmtl | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bp/access-control-master-node-improvments,n,z) | 16:50 |
| prmtl | we got rid of usage of admin token and both nailgun and ostf have now it’s own service users in keystone on fuel master | 16:50 |
| prmtl | next step now is to make upgrade ask for admin password so user doesn’t have to change it in astute.yaml | 16:50 |
| prmtl | specs still wait for +1’s (or comments): | 16:50 |
| prmtl | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118284/ | 16:50 |
| prmtl | that's all | 16:50 |
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| akislitsky_ | teran__, I gave requirements to Alex for VMs. use them for request, please | 16:50 |
| teran__ | akislitsky_: Ok | 16:51 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, if no questions, moving on | 16:52 |
| mihgen | prmtl: thanks | 16:53 |
| kozhukalov | #topic 100 nodes (loles) | 16:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "100 nodes (loles) (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:53 | |
| salmon_ | hi | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | This week we were focusing on nailgun. Kamil finished writing load tests for API with nice graphs which shows slow functions. It's under review now. | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123967/ | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118123/ | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | Roman is writing tests for fuelclient. We have first Rally scenario for Fuel. Next week we are starting to work on astute. There are still some comments in blueprint, but it's bassicly ready. | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119400/9/specs/6.0/100-nodes-support.rst | 16:53 |
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| salmon_ | From Matt about pressed download impovement and dhcp timeouts: | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | 1 - merged into fuel already is a patch to retry downloading ubuntu preseed file | 16:53 |
| salmon_ | 2 - testing a config change to raise DHCP timeout in Ubuntu for scaling | 16:53 |
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| mattymo | preseed not pressed :) | 16:54 |
| mihgen | prmtl: please make sure nurla knows about it, it has to be covered by system tests. Also I thought we gonna do services token, so no requirement to interactive mode asking for a password | 16:54 |
| salmon_ | mattymo: sorry:) | 16:54 |
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| mihgen | salmon_: great! | 16:55 |
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| mihgen | no questions at the moment from me.. kozhukalov, should we move on? not much time left | 16:55 |
| kozhukalov | we don't have any other topics | 16:56 |
| kozhukalov | ooops | 16:56 |
| kozhukalov | we do | 16:56 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Moving development docs from fuel-dev to fuel-docs is in progress, will be done soon as I sort out an issue with building PDFs | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Moving development docs from fuel-dev to fuel-docs is in progress, will be done soon as I sort out an issue with building PDFs (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:56 | |
| christopheraedo | just wanted to let everyone know it's in progress right now | 16:56 |
| kozhukalov | who was that who added this topic at the last moment? ) | 16:57 |
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| christopheraedo | kuzhukalov: me, just wanted to make a little mention of it | 16:57 |
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| kozhukalov | christopheraedo: thanx | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | let's leave links right here | 16:57 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-dev-docs-merge-fuel-docs | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125234/ | 16:58 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, i think that is it | 16:58 |
| angdraug | christopheraedo: next time, please add you items to the agenda _before_ the meeting starts :) | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | great meeting | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | thanx everyone | 16:58 |
| christopheraedo | If anyone has deep experience with the autogenerated API docs, ping me please - and I'll add BEFORE next time ;) | 16:58 |
| kozhukalov | meow-nofer___: has, I think | 16:59 |
| kozhukalov | ok, guys, ending | 16:59 |
| evgeniyl__ | Thanks. | 16:59 |
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| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 16:59:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-10-02-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-10-02-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-10-02-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 17:00:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | We'll just let people filter in for a minute or two | 17:01 |
| chair6 | howdy | 17:01 |
| nkinder | Hi all | 17:01 |
| shohel02 | hi | 17:01 |
| bknudson | hi | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Good morning chaps! | 17:01 |
| tkelsey | hello all | 17:01 |
| sicarie | hello | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Evening tkelsey :) | 17:01 |
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| tkelsey | hyakuhei: evening | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok great, we've probably got enough people to start building an agenda :) | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | * Things that need reviews | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | * Elections | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | * Threat Analysis | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Others ? | 17:03 |
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| nkinder | that's probably a good start (lots of things fall into "things that need reviews") | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Ok cool, lets start there. | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | #topic things that need review | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | nkinder: any outstanding OSSNs ? | 17:04 |
| sicarie | 25 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117928/ | 17:04 |
| nkinder | OSSN-0028 is really close - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124213/1 | 17:04 |
| nkinder | and 25 is the only other one out for review AFAIK | 17:05 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: 28 just had the "hypervisor host" -> "compute host" title change you mentioned | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | Great, can a few people take actions to reivew ? | 17:05 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I think it's good to go otherwise | 17:05 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: I know thanks, it's got +2 from me :) | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | +1 from me | 17:05 |
| nkinder | I'll take a review of the latest version of 25 today | 17:05 |
| nkinder | There are some other ones in the backlog that need to be picked up | 17:06 |
| nkinder | There is also this, which is totally awesome - https://review.openstack.org/118139 | 17:07 |
| nkinder | gate tests for OSSNs | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | ooo | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | That _IS_ exciting! | 17:07 |
| nkinder | yeah, it will catch some of the stupid stuff | 17:07 |
| sicarie | +1 | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | Very nice, thanks nkinder | 17:08 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: if you're able to provide one more +2 there, I think we can get it approved | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | awesome | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | Will review before I finish work today nkinder | 17:08 |
| nkinder | great, thanks hyakuhei | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | As already said, 25 needs a review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117928/ volunteers? | 17:08 |
| nkinder | I know there are some bandit changes out for review | 17:08 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I'll review it | 17:08 |
| rlpple | let me look at 25 | 17:09 |
| tkelsey | yeah, I did a bit of work on bandit, ill find links | 17:09 |
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| nkinder | tkelsey: I've skimmed over them, but need to take more time to play with the changes to feel comfortable voting on them | 17:09 |
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| tkelsey | bandit link 1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124039/ link 2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124058/ | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | ah thanks nkinder | 17:10 |
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| tkelsey | those updates should be much cleaner than the last version tbh | 17:10 |
| chair6 | i'll take a look at them too | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | cool thanks chair6 | 17:11 |
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| hyakuhei | Any other things here that people want reviewing? | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | I reviewed the Threat Modelling docs from shohel02, did you want more reviews? | 17:12 |
| shohel02 | definately | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121034/ | 17:12 |
| shohel02 | uploaded a new patch | 17:12 |
| shohel02 | based on reviews from anne and you | 17:12 |
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| shohel02 | should we include some people other than security folks... what they think .. | 17:13 |
| nkinder | shohel02: I'll review it in the next few days | 17:14 |
| shohel02 | is it a workable approach | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | ok cool, I think it is but it remains very resource intensive. | 17:14 |
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| shohel02 | hmm.. currently i am doing historical security bugs published in Launchpad | 17:15 |
| shohel02 | and try to find a correaltion for future possiblities | 17:15 |
| shohel02 | but thats a side trac | 17:16 |
| nkinder | shohel02: OSSA bugs, or anything with SecurityImpact? | 17:16 |
| shohel02 | anything with security impact | 17:16 |
| nkinder | that's a big list :) | 17:17 |
| shohel02 | yes... i am searching with security tag | 17:17 |
| shohel02 | but i see other bugs which has not mention security tag... some times has security impact | 17:17 |
| nkinder | shohel02: yes, it's not used consistently | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | Coverage could certainly be better that's for sure. | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | shohel02: how are you searching for SecurityImpact? | 17:19 |
| shohel02 | launchpad tag | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | ah ok | 17:19 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, anything else need/want reviewing? | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | I've put something in the 'other projects' summit proposals for OSSG | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-other-projects | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | Bandit could well be there | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | or possibly in 'Cross-project' workshops | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics | 17:22 |
| bknudson | design summit discussions are most successful when there's a problem to discuss and get agreement on | 17:24 |
| bknudson | so one example I would give is -- how do we want to handle bandit? | 17:24 |
| hyakuhei | Makes sense. | 17:24 |
| bknudson | you've got the other projects there so you can get some buy in as to whether they want to submit to failing gate because of bandit checks | 17:24 |
| nkinder | Yes, I'd like to take the "goals" approach we talked about on the keystone meeting this week | 17:25 |
| nkinder | So it might be good to cover security gate testing in general, with a few goals... | 17:25 |
| nkinder | 1) static analysis checking in the gate with bandit | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | Makes sense, chair6 - nkinder want me to look into that or would you like to throw something on the wiki? | 17:26 |
| nkinder | 2) ssl gate testing | 17:26 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: I can update it | 17:26 |
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| hyakuhei | Cool | 17:26 |
| nkinder | someone on my team is working on proposing ssl gate testing now that the support for it merged in devstack | 17:26 |
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| nkinder | we could combine those two items into a single session I think | 17:27 |
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| hyakuhei | That sounds good | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Great, next topic then ? | 17:28 |
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| hyakuhei | #topic Elections | 17:29 |
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| hyakuhei | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSG_Lead_Election_Fall_2014 | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | ^ We're going to have elections, to do that we need an election official - someone who isn't going to run for leadership | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | I've decided to open the candidacy today so we've got reasonable time to get everything done | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | Any volunteers to be officials ? Basically you check that when people announce for candidacy they meet the requirements and everything is above board | 17:31 |
| tkelsey | hyakuhei: maybe worth giving info on whats involved with being an official | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | ^ | 17:32 |
| rlpple | Please. | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | One official will be responsible for administering the vote, bdpayne did it last time | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | We don't have to get volunteers here, it can go out to email | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | I'll add some content to the wiki page re: the roles of officials | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | So everyone have a think about if you'd like to take a shot at leading the group, think about what you'd focus on, how you'd shape the community etc and when ready announce your candidacy as described on the wiki :) | 17:34 |
| nkinder | hyakuhei: we basically need at least one official soon, as candidates might start announcing their intent to run | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | An official will reply-all confirming your eligability or contact you directly to work out any issues | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: Yes, but as the vote isn't for two weeks we can accept some latency between candidacy emails and confirmation | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | Though it's unlikely that anyone not meeting the candicy rules would just pop in and nominate themselves anyway | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | ok, so I guess that covers it for now, I'll reach out to bdpayne who invented the process and ask him if there's anything else he'd like to see from officials before I send around an email covering the detail. | 17:37 |
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| hyakuhei | Great. shohel02 was there anything else to run through regarding Threat Modelling today? | 17:38 |
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| shohel02 | No | 17:39 |
| shohel02 | i think we covered most important aspects | 17:39 |
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| hyakuhei | ok great | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | #topic any other business | 17:40 |
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| hyakuhei | As above guy, anything else you'd like to talk about or discuss? | 17:40 |
| nkinder | Nothing more from me today | 17:40 |
| hyakuhei | ok well I guess we can wrap early then :) | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | Have a good week guys, I'll email around re: Elections soon. | 17:41 |
| shohel02 | :) | 17:41 |
| tkelsey | efficient meeting :) | 17:41 |
| nkinder | thanks! | 17:41 |
| bknudson | we all going to the summit? | 17:41 |
| bknudson | I'll be attending | 17:41 |
| nkinder | I;ll be there | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | Of course :) | 17:41 |
| shohel02 | y | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | It'd be my pleasure to take you guys out for food again. | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | Not sure the food in paris will be up to the quality of atlanta but we can try... | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | oh hai bdpayne | 17:42 |
| nkinder | we should try to set up a lunch to get everyone together for some "off" time | 17:42 |
| bknudson | I'm worried about the uncooked hamburgers... | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | nkinder: definitely | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: you mean uncremated - you'll be fine :) | 17:42 |
| hyakuhei | I was hoping bdpayne had swooped in to tell us all about being an election officila but alas, he's afk | 17:43 |
| bdpayne | hey guys | 17:43 |
| bdpayne | am I late? ;-) | 17:43 |
| bdpayne | ? | 17:43 |
| rlpple | right on time | 17:43 |
| * bdpayne must have missed something | 17:43 | |
| rlpple | congratulations | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | whooop | 17:44 |
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| hyakuhei | So I was just asking about potential election officials re: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/OSSG_Lead_Election_Fall_2014 bdpayne | 17:44 |
| bdpayne | ahh | 17:45 |
| bdpayne | I'm happy to do that | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | Well that sorted itself out nicely :) | 17:45 |
| bdpayne | I'd also be happy to have a deputy :-) | 17:45 |
| hyakuhei | Do you think you could put one-two sentances on the wiki page regarding the role and responsibilities? | 17:45 |
| bdpayne | sure | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | ty :D | 17:46 |
| bdpayne | wait | 17:46 |
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| bdpayne | role and resp for the OSSG lead or ? | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | No just for the election officials | 17:46 |
| bdpayne | ah, ok | 17:46 |
| bdpayne | sure | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | Awesome thanks! | 17:47 |
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| hyakuhei | We were just about to wrap when you joined bdpayne - is there anything you'd like to cover? | 17:47 |
| shohel02 | bdpayne: i can volunteer as a deputy | 17:47 |
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| bdpayne | shohel02 ok thanks, I'll be in touch | 17:47 |
| bdpayne | I don't have anything to cover | 17:47 |
| bdpayne | carry on :-) | 17:48 |
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| hyakuhei | cool, well then I guess that's a wrap - thanks all! | 17:48 |
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| tkelsey | thanks everyone | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 17:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 17:48:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-10-02-17.00.html | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-10-02-17.00.txt | 17:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-10-02-17.00.log.html | 17:48 |
| bknudson | thanks | 17:49 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks | 18:00 |
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| elmiko | yo | 18:00 |
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| elmiko | tosky said he won't make it today, but i have a question from him for open discussion | 18:01 |
| aignatov | o/ | 18:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 18:02:29 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:03 |
| aignatov | only me, elmiko and SergeyLukjanov ? :) | 18:03 |
| alazarev | SergeyLukjanov, will you chair? | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup | 18:03 |
| NikitaKonovalov | hi | 18:03 |
| aignatov | he is alread | 18:03 |
| aignatov | y | 18:03 |
| alazarev | thanks | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it looks like super fast meeting | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I have about 15 minutes | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (croberts, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:03 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | any significant news? | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | sreshetn1ak found a bug today | 18:04 |
| alazarev | we can continue without you :) | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | The fix is ready | 18:04 |
| crobertsrh | Not much from me. I've been mostly looking at DIB today | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 18:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'll put it on review soon | 18:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ok | 18:05 |
| NikitaKonovalov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1376738 | 18:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1376738 in horizon "[sahara] Job execution page not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Juno status and FFEs (SergeyLukjanov) | 18:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | so, we already have rc1 | 18:05 |
| NikitaKonovalov | Everything else looks good | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and that's great | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | only a few regressions was found during testing | 18:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | plus a bunch of docs | 18:05 |
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| elmiko | i'm working on getting the rc candidate into RDO packaging | 18:06 |
| alazarev | I think we should include docs and critical to rc2 | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, juno-rc-potential tag is for marking issues to be backpoted to Juno | 18:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 18:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I'm not sure about docs, we'll see | 18:07 |
| elmiko | tosky was curious about plans to backport docs related patches into juno, looks like most of them are covered in that link | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | if you'd like to propose something else to backport, just write to the sahara channel and we'll discuss it | 18:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Design Summit @ Paris | 18:07 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 18:08 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2647f50> | 18:08 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: ack, i'll pass that along to tosky as well | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the Juno release will be October 16 | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 18:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Design Summit @ Paris | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-sahara-summit-topics | 18:08 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | please, add items you'd like to discuss to this etherpad | 18:09 |
| crobertsrh | How many slots do we have for sessions? | 18:09 |
| elmiko | also put your name next to things you are interested in talking about | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #info 5 design summit sessions + half day meetup | 18:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, it meens that we'll have more time in total than in Atlanta | 18:10 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | and half day meetup will make us able to brainstorm some internal technical stuff | 18:10 |
| crobertsrh | Yes...the half day meetup has potential....hopefully everyone can make it | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | that is really important | 18:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | meetup will be at friday | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, book you tickets better than always :) | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw I'm planning to stay in France till ~ Nov'17 | 18:11 |
| elmiko | nice | 18:11 |
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| alazarev | is "interested" part of etherpad about onsite summit attendees? or should I put myself too? | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, ready for beer after summit | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I mean for wine | 18:11 |
| elmiko | champagne ;) | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | alazarev, I think you could put yourself if you'd like to participate in preparation/discussions | 18:12 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | dmitryme will attend the summit too | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | if he'll attend irc meetings more regulary | 18:13 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 18:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:13 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | please, folks | 18:13 |
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| crobertsrh | I have a question about DIB. Is it the goal to support only the latest release of an OS, or should we introduce an OS-version param to support the next generation while keeping support for legacy versions? | 18:14 |
| elmiko | i've been reviewing, documenting, and working on a few bugs. could use a few more eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125518/ | 18:14 |
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| elmiko | also, should we be enforcing an 80-char column limit on rst doc files? | 18:15 |
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| alazarev | elmiko, +1 on 80-char restrictions, need to add this to doc8 and enable it in jenkins | 18:16 |
| elmiko | crobertsrh: imo, if we support older versions it should be limited to the last release or something, eg F21 and F20, Centos 6.5 and 7 | 18:16 |
| aignatov | +1 on 80-chars | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | +1 on 80-chars | 18:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, crobertsrh, I have no strong meening about supported versions | 18:17 |
| crobertsrh | +1 for 80 | 18:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | for me it's "at least support latest" | 18:17 |
| crobertsrh | Ok, fair enough. Anyone else have opinions on what to support in DIB? | 18:17 |
| elmiko | ok, so if we want to support older versions maybe we should put together a blueprint/spec for it? | 18:17 |
| crobertsrh | elmiko....yes | 18:18 |
| elmiko | maybe that's the next best step, if we feel like taking this forward | 18:18 |
| crobertsrh | and blueprints to support the new versions....f21 and centos 7 | 18:18 |
| elmiko | crobertsrh: +1 | 18:18 |
| crobertsrh | I'll work on them | 18:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | great, thx | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:20 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #chair alazarev | 18:20 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SergeyLukjanov alazarev | 18:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | unfortunately I need to dissappear | 18:21 |
| dmitryme | hey, re 80 char restriction in docs: how are we going to put long links here? Or text could be folded in rst? | 18:21 |
| elmiko | dmitryme: i would imagine some allowances for long links | 18:21 |
| alazarev | have we ever tried to have sahara packages in ubuntu? I see we maintaining them for centos and fedora | 18:22 |
| elmiko | dmitryme: honestly, not sure about how folding works in rst | 18:22 |
| dmitryme | alazarev: good news, mirantis just hired Tomas Goirand and he already made packages for debian | 18:22 |
| elmiko | alazarev: zigo was working on getting them into Debian, but not sure about Ubuntu | 18:22 |
| elmiko | dmitryme: is Tomas known as zigo on irc? | 18:23 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: right | 18:23 |
| elmiko | cool | 18:23 |
| alazarev | probably need to ping him to get current status | 18:24 |
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| alazarev | anything else to discuss? | 18:24 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 18:25 |
| crobertsrh | nada | 18:25 |
| dmitryme | alazarev: current status is that I told him I verify the packages, but didn’t do that yet :-( | 18:26 |
| alazarev | ok, thank you guys then | 18:26 |
| alazarev | #endmeeting | 18:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 18:26:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-02-18.02.html | 18:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-02-18.02.txt | 18:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-02-18.02.log.html | 18:26 |
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| alazarev | dmitryme include me to result when you verify it, plz | 18:29 |
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| dmitryme | alazarev: I actually just wanted to tell him how it feels over skype :-) | 18:37 |
| dmitryme | what kind of result do you want to see? | 18:37 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh, you still here? | 18:39 |
| tmckay | I forgot :) | 18:39 |
| crobertsrh | yessir | 18:39 |
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| tmckay | Any questions for me, folks? | 18:39 |
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| tmckay | Meeting still going? | 18:39 |
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| crobertsrh | no, meeting is over | 18:40 |
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| crobertsrh | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-02-18.02.log.html | 18:40 |
| tmckay | doh | 18:40 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 19:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Roll Call | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
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| amitgandhinz | o/ | 19:00 |
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| obulpathi | o/ | 19:00 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:00 |
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| malini1 | o/ | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:01 |
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| ametts | o/ | 19:01 |
| amitgandhinz | #link: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-25-19.00.html | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Review Last Weeks Items | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-09-25-19.00.html | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz to investigate MaxCDN CDN Manager API for master/sub accounts | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | yeah | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | i should just table this one lol | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | actually let me create a bp for it and unassign my name from it | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | i dont know when im going to get to this | 19:03 |
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| obulpathi | thats a good idea for long living tasks | 19:03 |
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| obulpathi | or long waiting tasks | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | megan_w_ to get a MaxCDN point of contact | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | megan_w is out today | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | anyone get the PoC from her? | 19:04 |
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| malini1 | no | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | not yet. | 19:04 |
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| catherine_ | can assign her all the things :) | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | hehe | 19:04 |
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| obulpathi | haha | 19:04 |
| malini1 | :D | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | she is back on monday then out again next week | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | I am also waiting for PoC of MaxCDN from her too. | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | so if you want this then get on her case all day monday | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | ping her every 5 minutes | 19:05 |
| malini1 | we created tht action for you tonytan4ever ;) | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | #action megan_w_ to get a MaxCDN point of contact for tonytan4ever | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic bp Updates | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | get-service | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: update? | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | That one has been merged. | 19:06 |
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| tonytan4ever | Now I am just waiting for bugs to emerge and fix them if any. | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: list=services | 19:07 |
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| obulpathi | it is in progress | 19:07 |
| obulpathi | in review | 19:07 |
| malini1 | I have API tests for the GET service..But they are currently failing at the gate because they run against mock DB :( | 19:07 |
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| obulpathi | had a bug, fixed that and incorporating review comments | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: store-provider-details | 19:07 |
| malini1 | obulpathi: have you already fixed the 500s? | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | That one has been done along with the create-service bp | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | malini1: no not yet | 19:08 |
| obulpathi | I am still testing other stuff | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | So it has been merged. | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | nitin is not around, so no update on the sqla driver | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | we do need this for the gate | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | has anyone heard from his recently? | 19:09 |
| obulpathi | nop | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | s/his/him | 19:09 |
| malini1 | no | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | nothing from me. | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | im tempted to unassign it from him until he comes back | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | i dont think he started it yet, soo.... | 19:10 |
| malini1 | amitgandhinz: tht sounds reasonable | 19:10 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:10 |
| tonytan4ever | sure. | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: update on add-docstrings? | 19:10 |
| obulpathi | miqui won't be able to attend | 19:11 |
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| malini1 | miqui has already started on it | 19:11 |
| obulpathi | yep | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | i;l keep it as started | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: delete-service? | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | This one is in progress. | 19:12 |
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| tonytan4ever | I am actively working on it, and should be rolling out a PR in few days. | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | awesome | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz: dns-driver | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | oooh thats me =) | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | so i started investigating this one | 19:13 |
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| amitgandhinz | looked at Rackspace Cloud DNS which has a 500 record limit | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | so im trying to figure out how this would scale out for many customers | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | 500 record limit per domain? | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | still investigating... | 19:14 |
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| amitgandhinz | per account | 19:14 |
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| obulpathi | ok | 19:14 |
| malini1 | do we need to look at designate as well? | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | designate? | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | oooh | 19:15 |
| malini1 | Openstack Designate https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | nice | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | yes, it would make sense to build a designate driver also | 19:15 |
| * amitgandhinz malini1 is the openstack guru | 19:15 | |
| malini1 | doesnt look like they are incubated | 19:15 |
| malini1 | but neither are we :D | 19:15 |
| malini1 | I googled it right before posting the link ;) | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | hehe | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | hahaha .. malini1 is smart | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | may be we should ping them and see if we can colloborate? | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | ok ok.... | 19:16 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: patch-service | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | I started it, but no progress as I am working on lsit | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | s/lsit/list | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | can i remove your name for now, and reassign when you pick it up? | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | sure | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: mock-cassandra | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | I amde good progress | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | and submitted a work-in-progress patch | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | will work on it once I finish my current tasks | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | which one should I go after list? mock-cassandra or patch? | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | ok. since it is a low priority bp, right now i will mark it as deferred | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:19 |
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| amitgandhinz | we can puck it back up later | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | s/puck/pick | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | i think list and patch are more important | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | list is almost done, will start working on patch, once I finish list | 19:20 |
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| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | malini1: gate-cassandra | 19:20 |
| malini1 | I just started looking at it today | 19:21 |
| malini1 | Cassandra is not part of official deb repo | 19:21 |
| malini1 | But as long as we are in stackforge, we can install cassandra from 3rd party repos | 19:21 |
| malini1 | Right now I am going through a bunch of yaml figuring out how to do that | 19:22 |
| malini1 | is not a lot of fun -but am making progress | 19:22 |
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| malini1 | tht's all I have..next bp :-P | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | and the last one is. | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: home-doc | 19:23 |
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| amitgandhinz | since he isnt here right now...this discussion just happened on the poppy channel | 19:24 |
| obulpathi | we dont have any updates from miqui on this bp | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | basically the home doc got neglected and we need to add the newer endpoints to it | 19:24 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:25 |
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| amitgandhinz | no new items on the agenda | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:25 |
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| amitgandhinz | any one have anything they want to discuss/ | 19:25 |
| obulpathi | testing cassandra with tox | 19:25 |
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| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: the stage is yours | 19:25 |
| obulpathi | malini1: can you please shed some light on how to do that? | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic testing cassandra with tox | 19:26 |
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| malini1 | obulpathi: my battery is down :( | 19:26 |
| malini1 | hmmm..you want to talk abt API tests with cassandra, rt? | 19:26 |
| obulpathi | as suggested by amitgandhinz, if we can run tests tox tests and pass configuration parameters to tox as command line parameters | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | malini1 needs some apple juice ;-) | 19:27 |
| obulpathi | it would be great | 19:27 |
| obulpathi | this way we don't need to change the config file | 19:28 |
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| malini1 | lets add a bp for tht & figure out how to make it work at the gate & dev laptops | 19:28 |
| obulpathi | great :) | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: can you make the bp | 19:28 |
| obulpathi | and I promise to buy you apple juice after that :D | 19:28 |
| obulpathi | sure | 19:28 |
| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: sure | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | ok any other topics? | 19:30 |
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| malini1 | I believe obulpathi wanted to talk abt mock provider | 19:30 |
| tonytan4ever | Can I talk about the status on poppy service ? | 19:30 |
| malini1 | sure tonytan4ever | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic poppy service status | 19:31 |
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| amitgandhinz | floor is yours | 19:31 |
| tonytan4ever | We define poppy service with 3 different status | 19:31 |
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| tonytan4ever | creating, deployed, and delete_in_progress. | 19:31 |
| tonytan4ever | obviously each status is based on corresponding provider's service status. | 19:32 |
| malini1 | we also have an unknown status, rt? | 19:32 |
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| tonytan4ever | I don't think unknown status is any useful. | 19:32 |
| malini1 | +1 | 19:32 |
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| tonytan4ever | After I implemented all these endpoint, I found only those three statues make sense. | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | what about updating? | 19:33 |
| malini1 | creating can become in_progress | 19:33 |
| tonytan4ever | If a service gets created in poppy, it is in created status. | 19:33 |
| tonytan4ever | I will explain in_progress in a minute. | 19:33 |
| tonytan4ever | when doing updating, the service should be still in deployed status, unless we need to use a "updating" status to do something with a client. | 19:34 |
| tonytan4ever | Now each poppy service has a provider_details field with a lot of provider's detail information in it. | 19:35 |
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| tonytan4ever | Each provider's detail will have status of "in_progress", "deployed", "disabled", and "delete_in_progress" | 19:36 |
| tonytan4ever | And poppy service's status should be a calculated field based on each provider detail's status. | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | +1 | 19:37 |
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| malini1 | tonytan4ever: it is deployed, only if it is a success for all providers under the flavor? | 19:38 |
| tonytan4ever | So we will not store an extra status field on service schema of poppy . | 19:38 |
| tonytan4ever | yes that's correct. | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | that makes sense, always derive from provider_details | 19:38 |
| tonytan4ever | all provider detail's status should be deployed, then a poppy service' status will be deployed ( for one flavor) | 19:39 |
| malini1 | sounds like a good idea tonytan4ever | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | +1 | 19:39 |
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| malini1 | do we have some way of telling the user it is partially succesful? | 19:39 |
| malini1 | it gets deployed in provider_a but not in provider_b | 19:39 |
| malini1 | does the user care? | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | i dont think the user cares | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | it should be all or nothing | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | think heat for example, do i care if some of my servers were provisioned? | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | if it failed, i would start again right? | 19:40 |
| malini1 | the user might want to have the entries removed from the provider who succeded | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | if it fails, delete the service? | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | which will then cleanup at the provider? | 19:41 |
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| malini1 | but then we returned a failed status, so the user wont know if they have to delete | 19:41 |
| tonytan4ever | I don't think that's a good idea, because we then need to delete those successful ones. | 19:41 |
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| amitgandhinz | but when they do a get on that service they see failed. so they should delete right? | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | why leave a bad service config around? | 19:42 |
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| amitgandhinz | and as long as they dont cname to the provisioned service it wont be used by their customers right? | 19:43 |
| tonytan4ever | when one provider fails at creating, but another provider created successfully, if we do a full delete, we also need to delete those successful provider's service. | 19:43 |
| malini1 | yes | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | yes | 19:43 |
| malini1 | we are relying on the user to make a delete call, after a failed service | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | the other option is to rollback at the end of create if one or more fail | 19:44 |
| tonytan4ever | and that in turn increase the chance of failure, and it will also increase the time of deleting that service | 19:44 |
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| tonytan4ever | So image this, if a user were to creates a service named "service_abc", it failed in fastly, but successful in Akamai/Cloudfront | 19:46 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:47 |
| tonytan4ever | to follow this all-or-nothing approach, we would need to delete the service name "service_abc" from Akamai/Cloudfront side, which will possibly take 10+min | 19:47 |
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| tonytan4ever | during this 10min, the user cannot create another service "service_abc" in Akamai/CLoudfront side, | 19:48 |
| tonytan4ever | and that is confusing for them. | 19:48 |
| malini1 | now imagine we leave tht service in Akamai/Cloudfront, with no service_abc in fastly | 19:48 |
| malini1 | user makes a poppy call to post service_abc | 19:48 |
| amitgandhinz | so heat has that problem too - when you delete a stack it takes time, and meanwhile you cant create a new stack with that name (and yes its annoying) | 19:49 |
| malini1 | now it will fail in Akamai/Cloudfront coz its already there, | 19:49 |
| malini1 | Assuming it goes thru ok in fastly the second time, we are still a failed ^o) | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | good point | 19:49 |
| obulpathi | all or nothing is a clean way | 19:49 |
| malini1 | maybe we are overthinking this | 19:49 |
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| amitgandhinz | lets start of the easy approach. if one fails, the service is in failed state and user must delete the service themselves | 19:50 |
| malini1 | we will let catherine_ mention this in the docs ;) | 19:50 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | +1 | 19:50 |
| tonytan4ever | +1 | 19:50 |
| obulpathi | this way the user no longer has confusion why he can recreate a new service with same name | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | #agreed if one provider fails on create, the service is in failed state and user must delete the service themselves | 19:51 |
| catherine_ | Eek! | 19:51 |
| obulpathi | why he cannot | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | 9 min remain | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: any more on status ? | 19:51 |
| tonytan4ever | that's all | 19:51 |
| tonytan4ever | I am drinking apple juice now. | 19:51 |
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| malini1 | let light be with you! | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | any other topics? | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | going once | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | going twice | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | gone | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | ok thanks everyone | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | good discussion today | 19:53 |
| malini1 | 'bye' folks | 19:53 |
| catherine_ | byr! | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:53 |
| tonytan4ever | later. | 19:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 19:53:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-10-02-19.00.html | 19:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-10-02-19.00.txt | 19:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-10-02-19.00.log.html | 19:53 |
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| kragniz | glance meeting peeps? | 20:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 20:01 |
| nikhil_k | #startmeeting Glance | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 20:02:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
| kragniz | \o | 20:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 20:02 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 20:02 |
| TravT | o/ | 20:02 |
| jbernard | o/ | 20:02 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 20:02 |
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| nikhil_k | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 20:02 |
| rosmaita | kragniz: i need to think through the "discovery" aspects (or lack thereof) on your spec, should have an answer tomorrow | 20:03 |
| arnaud | o/ | 20:03 |
| kragniz | rosmaita: sounds good! | 20:03 |
| kragniz | rosmaita: thanks | 20:03 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil_k: sorry to interrupt, you were starting the meeting | 20:03 |
| nikhil_k | np | 20:04 |
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| nikhil_k | was thinking.. | 20:04 |
| nikhil_k | Let's dedicate this meeting to Juno stuff | 20:04 |
| nikhil_k | seems like we've a lot | 20:04 |
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| nikhil_k | who has posted point#1 ? | 20:04 |
| nikhil_k | if you want to take over? | 20:04 |
| TravT | me | 20:05 |
| nikhil_k | please go ahead | 20:05 |
| TravT | just saw the revised agenda... | 20:05 |
| TravT | so the end of RC1 left us with several bugs on metadefs that we really thought should land in Juno RC1. | 20:05 |
| TravT | a few of them have effects that potentially are reason enough for RC2 | 20:05 |
| TravT | others we think should at least be backported to the first bug fix release of Juno | 20:05 |
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| TravT | after talking with nikhil a couple days ago, I put together an etherpad listing them. | 20:05 |
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| TravT | he wanted to share it in this meeting and ask if there are others for consideration | 20:05 |
| TravT | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-juno-release-bugs | 20:05 |
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| TravT | so, nikhil_k: let me know how you want to handle it from here. | 20:07 |
| ativelkov | I am pretty sure that the race condition-related bugs are quite serious. I am ok if we drop them from Juno, but they definetely should be fixed early in K and backported as soon as possibility arises | 20:07 |
| nikhil_k | yes, and if anyone had ideas for any other important stuff we might want to priorotize them | 20:07 |
| mfedosin_ | and i think incorrect status update should be there too | 20:08 |
| nikhil_k | I'm planning to send an email to ttx tomorrow and think that we can have 3-4 bugs requested at most (for rc1 backport) | 20:08 |
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| kragniz | so those will be backported to rc1, or make rc2? | 20:09 |
| nikhil_k | rc2 seems unlikely however, that could be another point of discussion | 20:09 |
| ativelkov | what is the difference? | 20:09 |
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| nikhil_k | at this point, I think we should go with "just rc1" for juno | 20:09 |
| ativelkov | I mean, are there any criterias for having another iteration? | 20:09 |
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| nikhil_k | so, https://launchpad.net/glance/juno/juno-rc1 | 20:10 |
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| nikhil_k | this page is used as reference to identify all the bugs that need to be there in a release candidate | 20:10 |
| nikhil_k | there were prolly none when ttx saw this page hence, we stopped at rc1 | 20:11 |
| TravT | yeah, I think that we probably should have had this meeting last week or the week before. | 20:11 |
| kragniz | okay, that makes sense | 20:11 |
| nikhil_k | based on the # and level of difficulty, the releases might be staggered (that's a speculation though) | 20:11 |
| TravT | nikhil_k: not sure I follow... | 20:12 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: I was trying to answer ativelkov's question about rc1/2 | 20:12 |
| nikhil_k | of couse, the likeliness of rc2 is still less | 20:12 |
| ativelkov | so, unless we discover something really severe and complicated, rc2 will not be allowed. | 20:13 |
| nikhil_k | the reason is - as we've the patch merged for "open kilo" development | 20:13 |
| nikhil_k | juno "like" work is officially stopped | 20:14 |
| TravT | so, when you say "backported" to rc1, do you mean that those would still get the 2014.2 designation? | 20:14 |
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| TravT | And the rest of these we could backport to 2014.2.1? | 20:14 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: that is my understanding | 20:14 |
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| nikhil_k | ok, so that's a possibility | 20:14 |
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| nikhil_k | I can try to confirm the same with release team then | 20:15 |
| TravT | ativelkov: is there already a fix for the race condition one? is it really complicated? | 20:15 |
| nikhil_k | #action (nikhil_k) to clarity on 2014.2 and 2014.2.1. Consider possibility of rc2 if needed | 20:16 |
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| ativelkov | TravT: yes, even two different fixes, both quite simple | 20:16 |
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| ativelkov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122814/ - simpler but with some limitatations, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123722/ - more complicated but still <150 lines | 20:17 |
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| ativelkov | They just lack some more reviews | 20:17 |
| TravT | ativelkov, can you add to that etherpad? | 20:17 |
| ativelkov | TravT: sure | 20:18 |
| nikhil_k | seems stuart is not here | 20:18 |
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| jbernard | ativelkov: im happy to help review, if needed | 20:18 |
| TravT | yeah, he had one... but I couldn't tell from his add to the agenda if his patch he wanted in RC2, RC1, or future backport | 20:18 |
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| nikhil_k | true | 20:19 |
| nikhil_k | let's get that clarified too | 20:19 |
| nikhil_k | #action (nikhil_k) find if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107383/ needs to be in rc1/2/future backport | 20:19 |
| TravT | So, two of the patches I put on that page have now landed on kilo master. | 20:20 |
| TravT | the rest all have 1 +2 | 20:20 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: can you please mark those are "merged in kilo" or something similar? | 20:21 |
| TravT | so, in any event, we need these on master and so they can be backported. | 20:21 |
| TravT | yeah, there is a little parenthesis | 20:21 |
| TravT | i'll highlight it | 20:21 |
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| nikhil_k | ah great | 20:21 |
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| nikhil_k | ok, so that seems to be it! | 20:22 |
| nikhil_k | unless someone sends me an email about another possible backport tonight | 20:23 |
| TravT | nikhil_k, what status should we mark the bugs in launchpad? | 20:23 |
| nikhil_k | TravT: I think leaving them as is should be fine | 20:24 |
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| TravT | ok | 20:24 |
| nikhil_k | I can take care of them if a link is available or can be found easily :)) | 20:24 |
| TravT | well, i think they are linked.... ;-) | 20:25 |
| nikhil_k | just a general guideline if anyone else wanted to add bug to it | 20:26 |
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| nikhil_k | #topic Bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66386 | 20:27 |
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| nikhil_k | can anyone represent this? | 20:27 |
| jbernard | i can | 20:27 |
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| jbernard | the patch seemed reasonable to me, but it breaks tempest | 20:28 |
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| jbernard | and im not sure what else depends on this behaviour | 20:28 |
| nikhil_k | ah | 20:28 |
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| flaper87 | I think it makes sense to | 20:28 |
| jbernard | im happy to revisit if you think it's valuable | 20:28 |
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| flaper87 | I mean, it's a small fix but it definitely solves an inconsistency in our API | 20:29 |
| nikhil_k | hmm | 20:30 |
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| jbernard | flaper87: for v2 only? | 20:31 |
| flaper87 | mmh, I don't think this problem exists in v2 | 20:31 |
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| flaper87 | btw, for how long are we planning to support v1? | 20:31 |
| * flaper87 wants v1 deprecated NOW! | 20:31 | |
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| nikhil_k | heh, good question | 20:31 |
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| flaper87 | my personal goal for K is to make all services in openstack use v2 | 20:32 |
| flaper87 | then we'll be free to mark it as deprecated | 20:32 |
| nikhil_k | I guess we will have to find what the nova v1/v2 patch status is | 20:32 |
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| kragniz | flaper87: that would be lovely | 20:32 |
| nikhil_k | flaper87: does that mean you'r signing up for nova using v2? | 20:32 |
| nikhil_k | jk | 20:32 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil_k: nova still uses v1, there's a bp for v2 and I'm planning to make sure that gets done | 20:32 |
| flaper87 | or do it myself | 20:32 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: oh yes | 20:32 |
| nikhil_k | perfect! | 20:32 |
| ativelkov | sounds very good | 20:33 |
| jbernard | then perhaps its okay to leave this as is, in hopes of a soon deprecated v1 | 20:33 |
| kragniz | flaper87: can the client move over to using v2 by default? | 20:33 |
| kragniz | what's blocking that? | 20:33 |
| flaper87 | kragniz: just when v2 will be our default | 20:33 |
| flaper87 | we need to give a deprecation period | 20:33 |
| flaper87 | Here's what I think will/should happen | 20:33 |
| kragniz | flaper87: okay, makes sense | 20:33 |
| nikhil_k | jbernard: yeah, we can revisit in mid-kilo | 20:33 |
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| mfedosin_ | client doesn't fully support v2 | 20:33 |
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| flaper87 | K we mark v1 as deprecated, L (L comes after K, right? right?) we remove it and make client use v2 by default | 20:34 |
| kragniz | mfedosin_: do you know if there are bugs for that? | 20:34 |
| mfedosin_ | i don't see them | 20:34 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin_: it does, the missing pieces are optional (?) and should be implemented in K | 20:34 |
| flaper87 | I think it is lacking support for tasks | 20:34 |
| flaper87 | and few other things that landed in Juno | 20:34 |
| flaper87 | but support for images is there for sure | 20:35 |
| flaper87 | (last famous words) | 20:35 |
| mfedosin_ | for example client doesn't support sort-key for images | 20:35 |
| TravT | actually, one of our bugs listed on that etherpad is to fix some issues using v2 api | 20:35 |
| kragniz | okay, we should raise bugs for the missing parts | 20:35 |
| mfedosin_ | and sort-dir as well | 20:35 |
| TravT | v2 image-update does not handle some schema properties properly - https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1371559 | 20:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1371559 in python-glanceclient "v2 image-update does not handle some schema properties properly" [Undecided,In progress] | 20:35 |
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| jokke_ | my 2 euro cents ... we want to have client using v2 default for 1 cycle and keep v1 available? | 20:36 |
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| kragniz | jokke_: won't the v1 client still exist for a while after the switch to v2 anyway? | 20:36 |
| ativelkov | btw, v1 CLI allows to use image name instead of id in case if names are unambiguous, but that does not work in v2. Is is a CLI or API issue? | 20:36 |
| jokke_ | kragniz: no if we move the client default same time we remove v1 | 20:37 |
| jokke_ | ativelkov: I think that was intentional smart decision iirc | 20:37 |
| flaper87 | client v1 will stay there longer than v1, I think | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | there has been couple of times discussions about that delete with name and each time decided not to be implemented | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: +1 | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | kragniz: ah you were talking about client ... sorry | 20:39 |
| TravT | flaper87: that makes sense to me re client | 20:39 |
| kragniz | jokke_: that's okay! | 20:39 |
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| jokke_ | I just have my fears what happens if we remove v1 api in L and postpone until that before defaulting v2 in client ... that does not leave too much room for errors | 20:40 |
| TravT | This sounds like maybe a dedicated bug day on the client and v2. | 20:41 |
| kragniz | TravT: +1 | 20:41 |
| TravT | does it warrant time at the summit? or just a bug day on it. | 20:42 |
| nikhil_k | at this point, let's stick to bug day | 20:42 |
| TravT | if flaper87 is going to make it his goal to get Nova switched over, we want to make sure its ready to go. | 20:43 |
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| jokke_ | +1 | 20:43 |
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| nikhil_k | Think proposing summit topic is fine, though we get few slots for glance. | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: would it be worth to propose TC having cross-project slot reserved for Nova, Cinder & Glance to discuss about the deprecation & migration plans? | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | Horizon as well | 20:45 |
| nikhil_k | jokke_: that's a good idea | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | having everyone in the same room so the plan would be clear | 20:45 |
| nikhil_k | can someone bring this up in the next meeting? | 20:45 |
| TravT | bring what up? The v2 client? | 20:46 |
| nikhil_k | need a volunteer | 20:46 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: I'll add it to agenda | 20:46 |
| nikhil_k | great. Thanks kragniz | 20:47 |
| nikhil_k | guessing we will have more people in our earlier timeslot | 20:47 |
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| nikhil_k | jokke_: TravT : about summit topics - we can try to cover at least some if not all in the next meeting | 20:48 |
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| TravT | nikhil_k: Sounds good. | 20:48 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: do we have some plans already? | 20:48 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: etherpad or something? | 20:48 |
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| nikhil_k | not yet | 20:48 |
| nikhil_k | is someone interested in creating a layout (in etherpad) for kilo summit topics? | 20:49 |
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| jokke_ | k, will put etherpad ready for next meeting and link to the agenda so people can fill in their proposals | 20:49 |
| TravT | we're supposed to create one and linke to it for here: #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning | 20:49 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 20:49 |
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| nikhil_k | #action jokke_ to create summit topic etherpads and link it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning | 20:50 |
| TravT | one quick question | 20:50 |
| TravT | how many slots do we get? | 20:50 |
| TravT | for glance | 20:50 |
| jokke_ | and do we have our own corner there? | 20:51 |
| gokrokve | There should be PODs for projects | 20:51 |
| jokke_ | or how they called them | 20:51 |
| jokke_ | POD yeah | 20:51 |
| gokrokve | And as I heard there will be the whole day for project sessions. Need to confirm this, though | 20:52 |
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| nikhil_k | TravT: usually, one day-ish. (lesser than a day) | 20:52 |
| ativelkov | Yes, there should be something for "meetup" | 20:52 |
| nikhil_k | all sequential = | 20:52 |
| nitika_ | nikhil_k: Hi, shall we move to the next topic as we have left only with few minutes for the meeting. | 20:53 |
| nikhil_k | thanks for bringing that up nitika_ | 20:53 |
| nikhil_k | #topic Nitika: Discuss about the Glance Project Ideas proposed for the upcoming OPW Program | 20:53 |
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| nitika_ | Hello Everyone, | 20:53 |
| nikhil_k | nitika_: go ahead | 20:53 |
| nitika_ | Firstly let me introduce myself. | 20:54 |
| nitika_ | I'm pursuing computer science and engineering and willing to participate in the upcoming OPW program | 20:54 |
| nitika_ | by contributing to the Glance project | 20:54 |
| rosmaita | yay! | 20:54 |
| kragniz | woop! | 20:54 |
| gokrokve | ativelkov: meetup is on Friday. Just a room for half a day | 20:54 |
| jokke_ | sorry for my ignorance, but OPW? | 20:54 |
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| nitika_ | I would like to discuss about the tasks related to the Glance projects mentioned | 20:55 |
| nikhil_k | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen | 20:55 |
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| TravT | Welcome! | 20:55 |
| nitika_ | # link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen/Ideas#Glance_-_Implement_Tasks_scrubber | 20:55 |
| jokke_ | Ah that one, Cool! | 20:55 |
| gokrokve | Great! Welcome! | 20:55 |
| nitika_ | jokke_: Outreach program for Women | 20:55 |
| nitika_ | gokrokve: thaks | 20:55 |
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| nitika_ | thanks * | 20:56 |
| nitika_ | thanks everyone. | 20:56 |
| rosmaita | +1 to tasks scrubber! | 20:56 |
| nikhil_k | There is some time committment issues from my side on mentorship | 20:57 |
| nikhil_k | and nitika_ seems really interested | 20:57 |
| jokke_ | nitika_: on which timezone you're at? | 20:57 |
| nikhil_k | + I was really impressed with her diligence and clarity of thought | 20:57 |
| nitika_ | jokke_: UTC +5.5 | 20:57 |
| nitika_ | nikhil_k: thanks. | 20:57 |
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| nikhil_k | So, if we can have around 2-3 developers who can mentor her (partly at least) | 20:57 |
| nikhil_k | and one of them can be me 0:-) | 20:58 |
| jokke_ | nitika_: ok ... well feel free to poke me on afternoons if you need something ... I'll be online for you by around 13:00 daily basis | 20:58 |
| exploreshaifali | hello everyone, I am also pursuing computer science engineering and want to contribute for glance project | 20:58 |
| exploreshaifali | I want to know more about scrubber implementation project | 20:58 |
| nikhil_k | we would need a official metor who can conduct office hours and meet with her on irc to very least (often) | 20:58 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k: what are the commitment needs? | 20:59 |
| nikhil_k | exploreshaifali: nitika_ : so, seems like we may have some interest | 20:59 |
| nitika_ | jokke_: ok, thanks. | 20:59 |
| nikhil_k | mind sending email to ML about this? | 20:59 |
| nikhil_k | unless you can find someone on openstack-glance | 20:59 |
| jokke_ | let's continue this discussion on -glance, we're out of time | 20:59 |
| nikhil_k | yep | 20:59 |
| nikhil_k | no room for open discussion | 20:59 |
| nitika_ | ok | 21:00 |
| nikhil_k | we can have that early next meeting | 21:00 |
| nikhil_k | #endmeeting Glance | 21:00 |
| exploreshaifali | ok | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 21:00:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-10-02-20.02.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-10-02-20.02.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-10-02-20.02.log.html | 21:00 |
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