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| fungi | the openstack meetbot is back now. freenode issues | 14:13 |
| russellb | #startmeeting nfv | 14:13 |
| bauzas | welcome openstack ! | 14:13 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 8 14:13:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:13 |
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| sgordon_ | #startmeeting nfv | 14:13 |
| sgordon_ | #topic action review | 14:13 |
| sgordon_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/047548.html | 14:13 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/File:NFV%2814%29000154r2_NFV_LS_to_OpenStack.pdf | 14:13 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 14:13 |
| russellb | #chair sgordon_ | 14:14 |
| bauzas | awesome | 14:14 |
| openstack | Current chairs: russellb sgordon_ | 14:14 |
| sgordon_ | #topic action review | 14:14 |
| sgordon_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/047548.html | 14:14 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/File:NFV%2814%29000154r2_NFV_LS_to_OpenStack.pdf | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action review (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:14 | |
| sgordon_ | #info discussion about etsi gap analysis | 14:14 |
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| russellb | (note that we actually started about 15 minutes ago, bot problems, so part of the log will be missing) | 14:14 |
| sgordon_ | #info need more detail on resource catalog requirement? | 14:14 |
| russellb | sgordon_: +1 | 14:14 |
| imendel | I can touch base with Michael and clarify | 14:15 |
| openstack | sgordon_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 14:15 |
| sgordon_ | thanks fungi | 14:15 |
| sgordon_ | anyway | 14:15 |
| sgordon_ | let's move on for now | 14:15 |
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| sgordon_ | i had thrown a lot of other stuff in the agenda | 14:15 |
| imendel | sgordon: got my note? | 14:15 |
| sgordon_ | #topic juno status | 14:15 |
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| sgordon_ | imendel, sorry which one :) | 14:16 |
| imendel | I can touch base with Michael and clarify | 14:16 |
| imendel | :) | 14:16 |
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| sgordon_ | #action imendel to touch base with Michael (ETSI liaison) and clarify resource catalog requirement | 14:16 |
| russellb | #action imendel to follow up on resource catalog requirement to try to get more clarification | 14:16 |
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| russellb | d'oh | 14:16 |
| sgordon_ | -_- | 14:16 |
| sgordon_ | lol! | 14:16 |
| russellb | #undo | 14:16 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x3201810> | 14:16 |
| sgordon_ | ok | 14:16 |
| sgordon_ | so i have been trying to bring the wiki page up to date | 14:17 |
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| sgordon_ | and i came across this bp | 14:17 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/openvswitch-patch-port-use | 14:17 |
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| sgordon_ | it appears to be resolved by some combination of | 14:17 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1331569 | 14:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331569 in neutron "Open vSwitch Agent should use ovs_lib to list bridges not ip_lib" [Low,Fix released] | 14:17 |
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| sgordon_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1285335 | 14:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1285335 in neutron "Openvswitch agent should use ovs patch ports instead veths" [Medium,Fix released] | 14:17 |
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| sgordon_ | does anyone remember who put this on the list and might be able to verify? | 14:17 |
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| cloudon | Was it auto-scraped because bp text mentions NFV? | 14:18 |
| sgordon_ | no | 14:18 |
| sgordon_ | because the functionality was supposedly implemented in those bug fixes ;) | 14:19 |
| sgordon_ | #info openvswitch-patch-port-use appears to be resolved via bugs 1331569 and 1285335 | 14:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331569 in neutron "Open vSwitch Agent should use ovs_lib to list bridges not ip_lib" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331569 | 14:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1285335 in neutron "Openvswitch agent should use ovs patch ports instead veths" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1285335 | 14:20 |
| sgordon_ | im just hoping to verify that is actually the case | 14:20 |
| sgordon_ | anyway, that is all i had for juno status | 14:20 |
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| sgordon_ | did anyone else want to raise something | 14:20 |
| sgordon_ | bugs perhaps? | 14:21 |
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| sgordon_ | #topic kilo planning | 14:22 |
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| sgordon_ | so i wanted to put some focus on discussing what is the highest priority, and achievable for Juno | 14:22 |
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| sgordon_ | a good baseline for that looks like "what was approved and juno and not finished" | 14:22 |
| sgordon_ | imo | 14:22 |
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| russellb | that, and has people still available to push on the impl | 14:22 |
| sgordon_ | particularly on the nova side i know there was a lot of work around NUMA topology still outstanding | 14:23 |
| sgordon_ | right | 14:23 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:23 |
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| sgordon_ | i had compiled a list in the etherpad for now just on that basis | 14:24 |
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| sgordon_ | on the neutron side the biggest "itches" im still hearing about is the VLAN trunking and inability to have an un-addressed port | 14:24 |
| sgordon_ | (one way or another) | 14:24 |
| sgordon_ | imendel, cloudon any thoughts? | 14:25 |
| cloudon | plus some of the unfinished data plane accel stuff e.g. Snabbswitch | 14:25 |
| sgordon_ | right i had lumped that together under... | 14:25 |
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| sgordon_ | VIF(s) for dpdk / vhost-user? | 14:25 |
| sgordon_ | although recognize that is just the nova side | 14:25 |
| cloudon | ah, ok | 14:25 |
| sgordon_ | cloudon, are you planning to resubmit? | 14:26 |
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| cloudon | I wasn't the submitter - was Luke Gorrie | 14:26 |
| cloudon | AFAIK he thinks he has it under control for Kilo | 14:26 |
| sgordon_ | ah right | 14:26 |
| sgordon_ | sorry :) | 14:27 |
| cloudon | just wish I'd thought of it :) | 14:27 |
| sgordon_ | so nova-specs is technically open for business now | 14:27 |
| sgordon_ | tho obviously there is still focus on bedding down the release atm | 14:27 |
| imendel | and there is the scheduling based on net info that I am not sure anymore where it belongs | 14:27 |
| sgordon_ | not sure about neutron? | 14:27 |
| sgordon_ | imendel, yes i have no real idea on what to do with that at this point | 14:28 |
| sgordon_ | imendel, best answer i ever get is "not here!" :D | 14:28 |
| imendel | sgordon:.ok :) | 14:28 |
| sgordon_ | i think the challenge as we have discussed before it's just the first request of that type | 14:28 |
| sgordon_ | plenty of other resources etc people want to react to in that way | 14:28 |
| imendel | right | 14:28 |
| sgordon_ | but for now current direction is that it has to be done with third party tools | 14:29 |
| sgordon_ | where openstack focuses on exposing the APIs they can call to get info or take action, in theory | 14:29 |
| imendel | is it a good topic for Tuesday in the summit? | 14:29 |
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| sgordon_ | imendel, is tuesday the cross project sessions? | 14:30 |
| imendel | i thnk so, yes | 14:30 |
| bauzas | yup | 14:30 |
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| bauzas | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ | 14:31 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics | 14:31 |
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| imendel | there is: "Scheduling decisions and the need for a global holistic scheduler - Gantt project" | 14:33 |
| sgordon_ | imendel, im still conflicted on this - i may just send an email to the list and ask | 14:33 |
| sgordon_ | ahh | 14:33 |
| bauzas | I'm just editing it now | 14:33 |
| imendel | do u know what's the status of Gantt? | 14:33 |
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| russellb | sgordon_: on what, NFV? | 14:34 |
| russellb | sgordon_: IMO, it's doubtful to make the cut, unless we can come up with very concrete actions we'd like to discuss | 14:34 |
| bauzas | imendel: that's maybe off-topic | 14:34 |
| imendel | ok | 14:34 |
| sgordon_ | russellb, right | 14:34 |
| bauzas | imendel: feel free to ping me afterwards | 14:34 |
| russellb | i wouldn't even propose it, honestly | 14:35 |
| sgordon_ | russellb, the problem as we continue to go round in circles | 14:35 |
| russellb | BoF, for sure | 14:35 |
| sgordon_ | i get feedback that we need to explain what nfv is / why we care to the wider dev community | 14:35 |
| sgordon_ | but there is no real forum for that | 14:35 |
| russellb | blogging :) | 14:35 |
| russellb | markmc's blog post was good for that | 14:35 |
| sgordon_ | im giving a talk on the telco track but of course that is more the business side of the world | 14:35 |
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| sgordon_ | #topic other discussion | 14:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other discussion (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 14:37 | |
| sgordon_ | #action steveg to get BoF space | 14:37 |
| sgordon_ | does anyone have something else they would like to discuss today? | 14:37 |
| sgordon_ | i will take that as a no | 14:39 |
| sgordon_ | thanks all! | 14:39 |
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| sgordon_ | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
| cloudon | thanks | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 8 14:39:32 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-10-08-14.13.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-10-08-14.13.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-10-08-14.13.log.html | 14:39 |
| imendel | tnx | 14:39 |
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| Swami | hi folks | 14:59 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: hi | 14:59 |
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| viveknarasimhan | hi swami | 14:59 |
| ChuckC | hi | 14:59 |
| Swami | hi ChuckC | 14:59 |
| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 8 15:00:33 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: distributed_virtual_router)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:00 |
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| Swami | #info RC1 cut happened last Thursday | 15:01 |
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| Swami | If anyone is testing the DVR code please make sure that you are testing the RC1 code. | 15:01 |
| Swami | #topic Bugs | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: distributed_virtual_router)" | 15:01 | |
| Swami | There are couple of high bugs that we are currently working on | 15:02 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1377241 | 15:02 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1377241 in neutron "Lock wait timeout on delete port for DVR" [High,In progress] | 15:02 |
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| Swami | I am working on the above bug and I have posted a patch for review. It is still a WIP. Please take a look at it and provide your comments. | 15:03 |
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| viveknarasimhan | sure Swami | 15:03 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124849/ | 15:03 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: yes this has the lock for the csnat delete and also I made a minor change for the gateway-clear to call the csnat-delete only when the gateway is associated with the current network id. | 15:04 |
| Swami | There was some issue with the upstream test_requirements, I could not run tox last night since it was broken, I will check it again today and see if it works. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | This lockwait bug exposes other areas where there might be a timing issue. | 15:05 |
| ChuckC | Swami: unit tests need more setup now | 15:06 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok Swami | 15:06 |
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| Swami | Because of the router_interface_delete and gateway_clear not ordered, there is more timing issues. | 15:06 |
| Swami | This was the reason that we are also seeing the DBDuplicateError for Snat agent binding. | 15:07 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1378468 | 15:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1378468 in neutron "DBDuplicateError found sometimes when router_interface_delete issued with DVR" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:07 |
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| ChuckC | Swami: other tests also. as of 10/6 | 15:07 |
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| Swami | ChuckC: can you elaborate on the setup please. | 15:08 |
| ChuckC | You need to install postgresql postgresql-contrib postgresql-clien | 15:08 |
| ChuckC | and postgresql-server-dev-9.3 | 15:08 |
| Swami | Should it be done manually | 15:09 |
| ChuckC | to run tests other than unit tests, more setup is needed, but I think devstack will handle that | 15:09 |
| Swami | will it not pull it automatically from the requirements.txt file | 15:09 |
| Swami | Right now devstack is broken, it is not able to pull all the information. | 15:09 |
| Swami | It was giving me some errors on mysql.conf not found or something. | 15:10 |
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| viveknarasimhan | did you try | 15:10 |
| viveknarasimhan | run_tests.sh instead of tox? | 15:10 |
| ChuckC | These are not in requirements.txt, but I think devstack will cover them once a fix merges (let me look) | 15:10 |
| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: I just ran tox | 15:10 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: last night I ran both, after cleaning up my existing .venv and .tox | 15:11 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: but did not succeed. | 15:11 |
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| Swami | Ok I will again today by manually installing the packages that chuck mentioned. | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | Ok | 15:12 |
| Swami | coming back to our discussion. | 15:12 |
| viveknarasimhan | when you say Tox failure i assume its not the old proxy issue we discussed | 15:12 |
| Swami | For the above bug with DBDuplicateError I have posted a patch. | 15:12 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126793/ | 15:13 |
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| Swami | viveknarasimhan: yes not the old proxy, since i was running it from my home yesterday. | 15:13 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok | 15:13 |
| ChuckC | the review is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126175, but it's for gate, not devstack | 15:13 |
| Swami | In order to work around this timing issue I went back to introducing the hints, and based on the hints, if it is router_interface_action I will not call the schedule_snat. | 15:14 |
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| Swami | I am not sure if this is the optimial solution for this timing issue, but in the short term, this helps by preventing any calls to schedule_router. | 15:15 |
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| viveknarasimhan | ok i will look closer | 15:15 |
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| Swami | viveknarasimhan: Also ChuckC is working on a patch that Carl Baldwin started for removing the rpc from the delete_port, can you review it. | 15:16 |
| ChuckC | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122880 | 15:16 |
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| ChuckC | thanks, Swami | 15:16 |
| viveknarasimhan | i see that is WIP | 15:16 |
| Swami | ChuckC: You might have to create a bug on the launchpad for this issue, I did see that it did not have a bug id on it. | 15:16 |
| viveknarasimhan | but, yes i will review that as well | 15:16 |
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| ChuckC | Swami: I don't really have context for submitting a bug (I don't know the symptoms) | 15:17 |
| Swami | ChuckC: no problem | 15:17 |
| ChuckC | I need some help here, since I'll need to test the fix somehow also | 15:17 |
| Swami | I will file a bug on that for splitting the rpc from db transactions for delete_port | 15:17 |
| Swami | Once I file the bug I will let you know. | 15:18 |
| ChuckC | thanks Swami | 15:18 |
| Swami | By the way last couple of days I have been testing your patch along with my fix for the DB lockwait timeout, I did not see any issues. | 15:18 |
| ChuckC | viveknarasimhan: I don't think it's WIP any more | 15:18 |
| ChuckC | Swami: great! | 15:19 |
| viveknarasimhan | ChuckC: Ok , will review it | 15:19 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: With both my patches that I mentioned above, I still see some errors related to dhcp when I run the clean up script. | 15:19 |
| Swami | I sent you an email about this. | 15:19 |
| Swami | There is a "KeyError network_id" in dhcp_rpc.py. I already filed a bug upstream on this, and someone is working on it. | 15:20 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1378508 | 15:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1378508 in neutron "KeyError in DHPC RPC when port_update happens.- this is seen when a delete_port event occurs " [Undecided,New] | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | I couldn't spend time on the DHCP bug today | 15:20 |
| viveknarasimhan | due to interview calls and VLAN/FLAT bridge overlapping troubleshooting | 15:21 |
| Swami | This is not related to DVR so I did not tag it as l3-dvr-backlog. | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | i will look at both your reviews | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | but DHCP might be a different problem you have uncovered | 15:21 |
| viveknarasimhan | unrelated to the patch.. | 15:21 |
| Swami | Also I do see some "SAWarning" messages in the logs | 15:21 |
| Swami | But these are not critical. | 15:22 |
| Swami | But I am not sure what are the side effects of these warning messages, | 15:22 |
| Swami | I also see some log messages such as "Will not send event port_delete_end for network 3db2c093-c033-4b18-860b-2691892aaea7: no agent available. Payload: {'port_id': u'c7f99dd3-1523-4128-85d2-ec15ff0f7f2e'}" | 15:23 |
| viveknarasimhan | those are audit logging messages | 15:24 |
| Swami | All these are related to "timing" issues that is my hunch | 15:24 |
| viveknarasimhan | the xxx_delete_start and xxx_delete_end where xxx represents the resource | 15:24 |
| Swami | Why those messages are shown as red.(error) | 15:25 |
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| Swami | These are not seen on all logs, but it occurs sometimes. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | Like yesterday I ran the regression testing for clean up around 20 times and I did see these errors couple of times. | 15:26 |
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| Swami | getting back to the bugs | 15:27 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1376325 | 15:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1376325 in neutron "Cannot enable DVR and IPv6 simultaneously" [Medium,New] | 15:27 |
| Swami | This bug is related to IPv6 configuration with DVR | 15:28 |
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| viveknarasimhan | we did not promote support of IPv6 | 15:28 |
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| viveknarasimhan | so i am not sure why this is considered bug | 15:28 |
| viveknarasimhan | this would be a feature | 15:28 |
| Swami | Upstream does support IPv6, but our l3-agent kind of does not like it. | 15:28 |
| haleyb | I was just thinking about that one, and if there was an easy fix to add the ip rule correctly | 15:28 |
| Swami | haleyb: hi | 15:28 |
| Swami | Yes this week we don't have rajeev and mike, they are on vaccation,so we are limited by resources | 15:29 |
| Swami | I will ask rajeev to take a look at it. | 15:29 |
| haleyb | hi swami. i'll see if i have time to look further, it's obvious what is broken, just not sure if a simple fix will get it working. I'm not looking at optimizing things | 15:30 |
| Swami | haleyb: I am not sure about the level of that bug. | 15:30 |
| Swami | haleyb: sure take a look at it and get an estimate on that work, | 15:31 |
| haleyb | medium or low, armando had marked as medium | 15:31 |
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| Swami | Once we wrap up the critical ones we can come back to these backlog items. | 15:31 |
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| Swami | I think that's all I had for the bugs | 15:32 |
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| Swami | Do you guys have any other topic to discuss today. | 15:33 |
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| Swami | #topic DVR Backlog | 15:33 |
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| Swami | viveknarasimhan: I have not filed bugs for all the backlog items yet | 15:33 |
| viveknarasimhan | Please file the bugs | 15:34 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: I will do it today as per our earlier discussion | 15:34 |
| viveknarasimhan | sure.. tag them as l3-dvr-backlog only if failure happens with DVR enabled | 15:34 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: Once I file the bugs I will let you know and if I have missed anything you can let me know. | 15:34 |
| Swami | #topic DVR-Documentation | 15:35 |
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| Swami | There are couple of bugs filed for DVR-Documentation. | 15:35 |
| viveknarasimhan | ok sure | 15:35 |
| Swami | Armando wanted us to work on those after we complete the bugs for the Juno RC. | 15:36 |
| Swami | I have asked Vinod to take a look at it and it seems Vinod was ok with starting with one of the doc bugs. | 15:36 |
| Swami | I have also spoken to Edgar on this to get the ownership of the DVR documentation | 15:36 |
| Swami | Vivek, may be if you and me can help Vinod we can complete the documentation for the DVR. | 15:37 |
| viveknarasimhan | i had a discussion with Vinod today | 15:37 |
| viveknarasimhan | he will be able to address doc bugs for L2 | 15:37 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:37 |
| viveknarasimhan | but for l3 extensions, we felt it will be good if you could guide | 15:37 |
| Swami | sure, I can help vinod if he have any questions | 15:38 |
| Swami | Let me see how these bugs end up and then take up the doc work. | 15:38 |
| Swami | #topic Open Discussion | 15:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: sorry to be late. | 15:39 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: no worries | 15:39 |
| Swami | I just went over the bugs. | 15:39 |
| ChuckC | carl_baldwin: Swami has volunteered to submit a bug for 122880 | 15:39 |
| Swami | Most of our discussion was with the DB lockwait timeout issue. | 15:39 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: 122880 didn’t help with that in your testing, right? | 15:40 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Yes it did not help | 15:40 |
| Swami | But it is good to have it. | 15:40 |
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| Swami | Adding a lock to the transaction that does the "csnat_port_delete" helps a bit. | 15:41 |
| Swami | I have posted a couple of patches upstream as WIP for review. | 15:41 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124849/ | 15:42 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126793/ | 15:42 |
| Swami | With both these patches I don't see the "Internal Server Error" any more. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Have you seen my latest comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105855/ ? | 15:43 |
| Swami | Please take a look at it and let me know your thoughts. | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: I’ll have a look. | 15:43 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: no I have been heads down on the lockwait issue, I will take a look at it. | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | Maybe it can wait until mrsmith is back. | 15:44 |
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| Swami | no problem I will check it out and fix it, if it is minor one. | 15:44 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i have question for bhailey: | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m not sure it is minor but you can probably judge that better. | 15:45 |
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| haleyb | viveknarasimhan: i'm here | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | viveknarasimhan: do you mean haleyb ? | 15:45 |
| viveknarasimhan | yes | 15:46 |
| viveknarasimhan | for review 123911 | 15:46 |
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| viveknarasimhan | i see PS11 came back full circle to be PS8 | 15:47 |
| viveknarasimhan | haleyb: please let us know the self.dvr_agent attribute error issue not popping out | 15:47 |
| haleyb | Yes, removing that self.dvr_agent check broke the tests, since it immediately calls _report_state() and blows up | 15:47 |
| viveknarasimhan | on report_state running earlier than rpc_loop | 15:47 |
| viveknarasimhan | also pls feel free to let us know | 15:48 |
| viveknarasimhan | any help that might be required on 123911 | 15:48 |
| Swami | Any other topics | 15:48 |
| Swami | if not we can end this meeting | 15:49 |
| haleyb | viveknarasimhan: i think it's ready to go now, if you just want to review and give a +1/-1 as needed | 15:49 |
| viveknarasimhan | PS 11 looks ok to me | 15:49 |
| viveknarasimhan | will give +1 later today | 15:49 |
| Swami | can you post the link in here for reference. | 15:49 |
| viveknarasimhan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123911/8..11/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/agent/ovs_dvr_neutron_agent.py | 15:50 |
| Swami | viveknarasimhan: thanks | 15:50 |
| Swami | thanks everyone for joining the meeting | 15:51 |
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| Swami | see you all next week | 15:51 |
| Swami | bye | 15:51 |
| viveknarasimhan | good day swami, carl, brian , chuck | 15:51 |
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| Swami | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 8 15:51:25 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-10-08-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-10-08-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-10-08-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| trinathS | Hi MLers.. | 15:54 |
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| trinathS | Hi ML2ers | 15:55 |
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| Sukhdev | trinathS: hello | 15:55 |
| trinathS | Sukhdev: Hi | 15:56 |
| Sukhdev | trinathS: we'll start in a few minutes | 15:56 |
| trinathS | Sukhdev: Okay. :-) | 15:57 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2'ers | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | hi | 16:01 |
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| rcurran | hi | 16:01 |
| shivharis | hi all | 16:01 |
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| trinathS | Hi | 16:01 |
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| * Sukhdev waiting for a sec for others to join | 16:02 | |
| Sukhdev | OK - lets get started | 16:02 |
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| romilg | Hi... | 16:02 |
| manishg__ | hi | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 8 16:02:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #info: Juno-RC1 is cut | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | The release notes are here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Network_Service_.28Neutron.29 | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | #info: RC2 is being planned | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | So, if you have any critical item that needs to be included in Juno, please tag it with juno-rc-potential | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | A Neutron Driver team is formed to manage the Neutron drivers better | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | you can find information here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron-drivers | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: don’t you mean “manage the Neutron specs better”? | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | yes - thanks for correcting | 16:07 |
| manishg__ | Sukhdev, manage drivers or direction in general? | 16:07 |
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| manishg__ | k. | 16:08 |
| trinathS | Spec approval team | 16:08 |
| trinathS | With powers of A+. | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | manage specs and make sure they overall align well within the Neutron architecture | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | maintaining the integrity of the Neutron architecture - I guess | 16:09 |
| rkukura | Is anyone else concerned that, with Kyle not involved in ML2 lately, ML2 is not adequately represented in this group? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: good point | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I thought he was over-burdened with other PTL activities | 16:11 |
| rcurran | rkukura, you mean the ML2 subgroup not represented in the larger neutron group? | 16:11 |
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| manishg__ | so is there going to be a rep from each subgroup? dvr, ml2, ipv6 , etc | 16:11 |
| rkukura | amotoki does participate in ML2 prettyy regularly, so he may be our neutron-drivers go-to person for now | 16:12 |
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| trinathS | rkukura +1 | 16:12 |
| rkukura | I don’t think the idea is to have reps from each group, but I think coordinating ML2 and the overall neutron architectural direction is extremely critical | 16:12 |
| trinathS | But mestery its also active for ML2 | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: amotoki is fairly active here as well as in Neutron - so, lets see how it plays out. | 16:14 |
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| manishg__ | rkukura: thanks. makes sense. as long as the folks in drivers team are aware of ml2 direction it should work. | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: if we see an issue or a bottleneck, we can raise the red flag | 16:15 |
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| shivharis | does amotoki know we are depending on him? | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: I hope so….I wish he was here today to answer that question :-) | 16:16 |
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| trinathS | amotoki just quit... Lawyer ... Where are you.. | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | Any other announcements? | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | Shall we move on? | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | There were no action items from last week as far as I can tell | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Bugs: | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: want to cover? | 16:17 |
| shivharis | hi | 16:17 |
| shivharis | I will be very quick today, need the time for discussion of summit topics | 16:18 |
| manishg__ | I have a few questions about bugs. should I hold them till open discussion? | 16:18 |
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| shivharis | only extremely critical bugs will now get into Juno | 16:18 |
| shivharis | manishg__: please go ahead.. | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | I fixed two ml2 bugs - would be great if someone can review. | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1325664 . | 16:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1325664 in neutron "ML2: validate network configuration" [Low,In progress] | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | patch here - https://review.openstack.org/126360 | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1333475 | 16:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1333475 in neutron "ML2 : network filters for provider attributes not implemented " [Low,In progress] | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | patch here - https://review.openstack.org/124917 | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | Also , This bugs requires refactoring parts of ovs agent but | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | I think we want to avoid that effort | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | till modular L2 effort lead by banix is done, right? | 16:19 |
| manishg__ | here's the bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1264608 | 16:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1264608 in neutron "openvswitch agent plugin should execute batched ovs-vsctl CLI statements on __init__()" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | manishg__: correct | 16:20 |
| shivharis | accepted. Thanks we will solicit this from the entire team shortly, i will keep this on the list for tracking. | 16:20 |
| manishg__ | I also ran into this test code which I didn't look right | 16:20 |
| manishg__ | so filed a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1377346 | 16:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1377346 in neutron "ML2: Invalid unit test case" [Undecided,New] | 16:20 |
| manishg__ | so if someone can triage it that would be great. | 16:20 |
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| manishg__ | shivharis: thanks. | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | manishg__: I will look at them later today | 16:21 |
| manishg__ | Other bugs that show up under ML2 are either assigned to others or are blocked on some blueprint. Anything that I missed there that is open? | 16:21 |
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| shivharis | manishg__: any other comments? | 16:21 |
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| romilg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1377346 | 16:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1377346 in neutron "ML2: Invalid unit test case" [Undecided,New] | 16:22 |
| manishg__ | shivharis: no thanks. that's it. | 16:22 |
| romilg | i fixed that | 16:22 |
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| romilg | as part of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1224978 | 16:22 |
| manishg__ | romilg: in review? | 16:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1224978 in neutron "port binding on multi segment networks could lead to agent misconfiguration" [Medium,In progress] | 16:22 |
| manishg__ | romilg: thanks. | 16:22 |
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| shivharis | Ok, back to the agenda. | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | romilg: patch? | 16:23 |
| shivharis | We have a few bugs that need to get a milestone target | 16:24 |
| shivharis | rkukura; can you please help on that | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | shivharis: I’ll try | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis: what do you mean by milestone target? | 16:25 |
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| shivharis | I am hoping the target for all these are k1 | 16:25 |
| shivharis | (or k2) | 16:25 |
| shivharis | this need to be set | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | Oh I see | 16:25 |
| rkukura | looks like k2 doesn’t exist yet, so I’ll set them to k1 | 16:26 |
| shivharis | chuckc, kevinbenton: can you please close the bugs that you have in progress - appears everything has been done | 16:26 |
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| shivharis | I will get manishg__ and romilg's bugs/patches on the list next time | 16:27 |
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| shivharis | thats all i have, lets move on | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: thanks | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews#Under_Review | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | I have kept this link in the agenda so that people can refer to what specs and code reviews are out there | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Kilo planning | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | Here is etherpad for Kilo design summit consideration - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura took an effort to come up with a list of ML2 specific items | 16:30 |
| rkukura | I think it is important to separte kilo planning from summit planning | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | These items are listed in the agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Agenda | 16:30 |
| rkukura | s/separte/separate/ | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: correct | 16:31 |
| rkukura | we need to figure out what we plan to accomplish in ML2 during kilo, then figure out what we need to do at the summit to enable that | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | not all important items necessarily need time at the summit | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | Shall we go item-by-item from the list and see the interest level? | 16:31 |
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| shivharis | Sukhdev: +1 | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | Cleanup/generalize DVR's distributed port support | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1367391 | 16:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367391 in neutron "ML2 DVR port binding implementation unnecessarily duplicates schema and logic" [High,Confirmed] | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | This one I believe is a no brainer | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | This is a bug I filed to cleanup the distributed port schema and code, but I think we need to decide if its more than that | 16:33 |
| rkukura | Do we see distirbuted ports being used for other services? | 16:34 |
| rkukura | Like DHCP? | 16:34 |
| shivharis | Are you envisioning distributed dhcp in the future? | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: Currently I do not believe we have distributed DHCP, do we? | 16:34 |
| rkukura | I think we can replicate the DHCP agent, but each replica eats a port and IP address, unless I’m mistaken | 16:35 |
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| shivharis | do the agents take ownership of coordinating dhcp address pool? | 16:36 |
| shivharis | i think this has lot more implications... | 16:37 |
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| shivharis | maybe this is topic to discuss at the summit | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | Maybe ML2 should focus on the cleanup part of this, and I think we can make it more generalized in the process, and see where it might be used in the wider community | 16:38 |
| rkukura | Any thoughts on whether a bug is sufficient for this, or if a BP is needed? | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis: In the earlier version of DVR proposal, somebody had mentioned this, but then no body followed up on this | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody see a use case for this? | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | If not, perhaps we can deal this with a bug for now | 16:40 |
| rkukura | Lets stick with managing it as a bug for now, and maybe add a DB for using it in DHCP | 16:40 |
| shivharis | rkukura: i am fine either way, just cleanup and not worry about dhcp for now | 16:40 |
| rkukura | s/DB/BP/ | 16:40 |
| shivharis | rkukura: +1 | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: agreed | 16:41 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | On to next item | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | Complete hierarchical port binding | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | I’ve started work on updating the Juno spec for Kilo. | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-hierarchical-port-binding | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | And plan to sync it with the most recent version of the patch | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | we came close on getting this done in Juno - so, this should be easy to revive | 16:42 |
| rcurran | +1 on hierarchical support | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | If anyone has any reservations about the approach taken in the patch, please speak up ASAP! | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: I am with you on this one | 16:43 |
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| rcurran | actually i'm already using it and it works | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | That is a great authentication - thanks rcurran | 16:44 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: looks like we are good with this one... | 16:44 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | on to the next one | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | Solve the postcommit backend sync / error handling situation | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17fATwZkJEonH0pIb1-mPD0UB5RKnJzcHYqkBesJhirE/edit | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | What do folks think about this? | 16:45 |
| rkukura | There still seem to be a variety of possible approaches on the table for this | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | what is the best way to converge on this? | 16:46 |
| rkukura | I think it is time to address this - it falls into the “technical debt” theme for kilo | 16:46 |
| shivharis | imo: the error conditions should be set the same way (bulk or no bulk) | 16:46 |
| shivharis | s/conditions/status/ | 16:46 |
| rkukura | We also need to consider what might be done in the neutron core regarding TaskFlow, etc. | 16:47 |
| shivharis | rkukura: yup! | 16:47 |
| shivharis | has any other team used Tasks yet? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: at some time you were looking into TaskFlow, did you make any headway? | 16:47 |
| rkukura | My suggestion is that we work to identify and understand the different appoaches, and include this in a wider discussion on tasks at the summit | 16:47 |
| manishg__ | cinder is using task flow I beleive... | 16:48 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I did skim through the TaskFlow docs a couple weeks ago | 16:48 |
| shivharis | actually we could also learn from some team that may have used it already? | 16:48 |
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| manishg__ | I'm working with the person integrating into other project and might be able to help if anyone has questions. | 16:49 |
| amotoki | afaik cinder already uses taskflow in the volume creation workflow. | 16:49 |
| rkukura | manishg__: sounds good | 16:49 |
| shivharis | manishg__: pointer please | 16:49 |
| manishg__ | shivharis, amotoki: I'll get more details | 16:49 |
| rkukura | One big question would be whether to integrate TaskFlow at the core level, the ML2 plugin level, or the individual MD level? | 16:49 |
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| shivharis | amotoki, manishg__: thanks | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I am guessing at a transaction level | 16:50 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: I’m assuming lauching a task or seres of tasks would be part of the transaction that gets committed | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: thanks for joining in - we had a question for you, but, will defer until the Open Discussion section | 16:51 |
| amotoki | rkukura: yes. we need to explore more details. possiblly we can have multiple flow management instances. it depends on a situation. | 16:51 |
| manishg__ | rkukura: might be better to may start with small chunks…otherwise a large change I think. I'll also start thinking about it and we can discuss further | 16:52 |
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| rkukura | there has also been some discussion of allowing plugins to call each other from within transactions, which might mean all backend interaction should occur in async tasks outside the transaction. | 16:52 |
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| rkukura | How about discussing this on next weeks agenda? | 16:53 |
| manishg__ | rkukura: +1 | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: yes, this is a good idea | 16:53 |
| rkukura | We’ve got 7 minutes, and 8 items to cover | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | lets go to next one | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | Complete the bulk ops support | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | banix is missing to discuss this | 16:54 |
| rkukura | that seemed very close to merging in juno | 16:54 |
| rkukura | Lets definitely complete this, but maybe it doesn’t need much discussion | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | hence, on to the next one - Revisit/cleanup/improve DB transaction usage, eliminating with_lockmode('update') and semaphore locking | 16:55 |
| rkukura | This probably ties into core work as well, and the etherpad suggests tasks might be related | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | what involved in this? | 16:55 |
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| rkukura | I see the goal as removing the locking, but not sure what’s the best approach | 16:56 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: how best to approach this? | 16:57 |
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| rkukura | This probably does need discussion at the summit, since it crosses between plugins and core | 16:57 |
| * Sukhdev I am afraid we are running out of time | 16:57 | |
| shivharis | rkukura: you see anywhere is poorly done - or this is a general observation | 16:57 |
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| Sukhdev | Shall we take it in the next meeting? | 16:58 |
| rkukura | My issue is that with_lockmode(“update”) leads to green thread deadlocks, and also this locking isn’t enforced in cluser DBs | 16:58 |
| rkukura | cluster | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | I want to give couple of minutes for Open Discussion | 16:58 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: lets continue next week on these | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:58 |
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| rpothier | Can someone look at | 16:59 |
| rpothier | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118656/ | 16:59 |
| rpothier | I need a second core reviewer | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: we had a question for amotoki | 16:59 |
| amotoki | hi | 16:59 |
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| rkukura | amotoki: yes, we noticed you are the only regular ML2 participant in neutron-drivers, so we are counting on you! | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | amotoki: we were concerned about ML2 representation | 16:59 |
| shivharis | amotoki: are you going to be our (ML2 subteam) point person as a "neutron driver" | 17:00 |
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| amotoki | I think how neutron-driver team works and what will be the criteria is not decided yet. | 17:00 |
| amotoki | I am glad to do. | 17:01 |
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| shivharis | amotoki: ++++++++ | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: we are counting on you to fill that role | 17:01 |
| * Sukhdev Out of time folks | 17:01 | |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:01 | |
| manishg__ | thanks! | 17:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 8 17:01:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-10-08-16.02.html | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-10-08-16.02.txt | 17:01 |
| shivharis | bye | 17:01 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-10-08-16.02.log.html | 17:01 |
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| romilg_ | bye | 17:02 |
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| amotoki | bye | 17:02 |
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| ekarlso | ello dns | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | #startmeeting designate | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 8 17:03:41 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | Apologies for starting late - Was in the middle of another conversation and missed the time :) | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Who's about? | 17:04 |
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| rjrjr | \o | 17:04 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:04 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:04 |
| jmcbride | o/ | 17:04 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:04 |
| Kiall | jmcbride: welcome back :) | 17:04 |
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| jmcbride | :) | 17:04 |
| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | The only action was for Graham to get all the pools specs into mergable shape (i.e. no conflicts..) | 17:05 |
| ekarlso | salut | 17:05 |
| Kiall | They all landed today :) | 17:05 |
| timsim | woot! | 17:05 |
| vinod1 | Thanks mugsie | 17:05 |
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| vinod1 | for rebasing all the code and merging them | 17:06 |
| betsy | vinod1: +1 | 17:06 |
| Kiall | mugsie is AWOL from the meeting today, had a personal thing to attend to | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Anyway - Given a few hours - the specs will be published at http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/designate-specs/ | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #topic V2 API Stability | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "V2 API Stability (Meeting topic: designate)" | 17:07 | |
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| Kiall | jmcbride - I think you added this one? | 17:07 |
| jmcbride | Yes. What do you guys think regarding v2 stability? | 17:07 |
| jmcbride | Do we plan to make any changes (excluding addition of new endpoints)? | 17:07 |
| Kiall | I'm personally quite happy with the structure of the V2 API as is today, but we defiantly have reliability work to complete.. Not sure if others have different thoughts? | 17:08 |
| timsim | I think the structure is probably stable (apart from adding /pools) for v2. | 17:09 |
| betsy | what about switching to json patch that you mentioned earlier? | 17:09 |
| betsy | Would that be contract breaking? | 17:09 |
| betsy | Or, is that not going to be done now | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | betsy: Nope, I'd call that an addition as both would always be supported based on the "Accept" header | 17:09 |
| betsy | cool | 17:09 |
| Kiall | ehh.. based on the Content-Type header* | 17:09 |
| jmcbride | Can we mark it as stable then or should we consider a status between "experimental" and "stable"? | 17:10 |
| rjrjr | i vote stable | 17:10 |
| Kiall | rjrjr: I think we're missing some key things from it which I'd argue against "stable" for - e.g. validation of record data etc | 17:10 |
| vinod1 | after the server pools and some of the other work items that we identified for kilo last week we can mark it stable | 17:11 |
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| timsim | Like I said, I think it's "stable" in the sense that it's not going to change much, but there are still things that we'd like to do before it's "stable" in the sense that everyone should use it in production. | 17:11 |
| betsy | Well, are we talking code stable or only api stable? | 17:12 |
| Kiall | vinod1: yea, agreed - I think pools doesn't actually have to land before we call it stable (since the post-pools behaviour when no pool ID is supplied is to choose the "default pool") | 17:12 |
| Kiall | betsy: API stable | 17:12 |
| rjrjr | i thought API stable. | 17:12 |
| betsy | That’s what i thought, too. Just verifying | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | Which includes the API contract, and that the API functionality does the right thing.. The entire codebase could change and that's OK | 17:12 |
| rjrjr | so, tbd? | 17:13 |
| betsy | So what’s mising? Just validation of record data? | 17:14 |
| Kiall | betsy: Off the top of my head, yes.. I've got some work started to centralized the validations into the objects, but haven't got it review ready yet... | 17:14 |
| vinod1 | How about the adding the prev link - would that be considered an addition? | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | I'd personally say adding something that didn't exist before is OK, so long as it's perfectly valid for the client to totally ignore it.. So a prev link would fit nicely with that definition | 17:15 |
| Kiall | Also - I juts notice we skipped the weekly release status topic.. Someone removed it from the wiki page (I suspect jmcbride ;)) | 17:16 |
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| jmcbride | Aargh! Thought it was something from last week only. | 17:17 |
| rjrjr | first day back with us and already causing problems... :) | 17:17 |
| Kiall | So - Maybe we need to do a once over the v2 API before next week, identifying anything else we may need to fix? | 17:17 |
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| jmcbride | o/ I can make sure that gets done. | 17:18 |
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| Kiall | I'll stick my name down for that, but a second set of eyes would be useful for spotting all the gaps | 17:18 |
| jmcbride | works for me. | 17:18 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to re-add V2 stability to next weeks meeting | 17:19 |
| Kiall | #action kiall + one other to review V2 API for stability gaps for next weeks meeting | 17:19 |
| jmcbride | I can get a second set of eyes to look at it on our end when you are done. | 17:19 |
| Kiall | jmcbride: ideally, two sets of eyes would give it the once over separately, then compare notes? | 17:20 |
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| jmcbride | Sounds like it could just be a spec then and go through the process of +2 | 17:20 |
| Kiall | jmcbride: Possibly - Thought, I had planned to just work through the API, identifying places where things don't work right (e.g. validation).. Finding those things would be hard from a review :) | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | Okay - Let's circle back on this next week? I can work though from my side before Monday, and will put what I find up as bugs + a wiki page... | 17:23 |
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| timsim | Sounds godo | 17:24 |
| timsim | s/godo/good | 17:24 |
| vinod1 | one other thing - will marking v2 as stable change things before kilo for end users of designate? | 17:24 |
| Kiall | ;) | 17:24 |
| Kiall | #topic Release Status (recurring) | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-rc2 | 17:24 |
| jmcbride | Sweet, thanks Kiall. | 17:24 |
| Kiall | vinod1: no, it won't change juno, but anyone running master (i.e. HP Cloud) will likely start pushing it | 17:25 |
| vinod1 | Also before marking v2 as stable, I assume we need to add it to the client | 17:25 |
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| Kiall | vinod1: I don't think the order matters really, and ekarlso's been itching to get a V2 client done ;) | 17:25 |
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| vinod1 | Thanks - And sorry for the distractions. Now we can get back to Release | 17:26 |
| Kiall | Okay - Release Status.. We had 1 bug found in rc1, and the fix has merged... Raise your hand if anyone has any other bugs/issues that would warrant not cutting our rc2? | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Bearing in mind, we have 8 days before Juno final is out .. So this really should be our last rc | 17:27 |
| vinod1 | nothing that I know of | 17:28 |
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| Kiall | I'm going to take silence as nobody knows of any issues we need to get sorted? | 17:28 |
| Kiall | Okay, Well, if anyone identifies anything in the next 20 or so hours, make sure it's tagged as rc2 on launchpad - Otherwise I'll get Theirry to cut rc2 during our meeting tomorrow. | 17:29 |
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| Kiall | #topic Open Discussion | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | Anyone have any other off agenda topics? | 17:30 |
| vinod1 | I have the server pools support in minidns up for review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125868/ | 17:31 |
| Kiall | mugise had planned to try organize a meet to work on the Summit presentation (for those involved in it..).. But he had to leave early todat. | 17:31 |
| Kiall | today* | 17:31 |
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| Kiall | vinod1: I saw :) Nice to start seeing code for pools! | 17:32 |
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| timsim | We'll be around in IRC whenever Graham wants to talk about that :) | 17:32 |
| vinod1 | rjrjr: Is there anything else that I can pick up for server pools | 17:32 |
| vinod1 | I am free to get started on something else while the minidns portion is being reviewed | 17:33 |
| rjrjr | i'm good for right now. betsy has a part of it. | 17:33 |
| vinod1 | Were you able to get started on the pool manger service or do you want me to look at it? | 17:33 |
| rjrjr | i'm started. code is forecoming in the next few days. | 17:33 |
| vinod1 | Cool. Thanks Ron | 17:33 |
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| * Kiall is looking forward to it :) | 17:34 | |
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| Kiall | Okay - So no other topics before we call it a day? | 17:36 |
| timsim | I'm good :) | 17:36 |
| vinod1 | yes | 17:36 |
| rjrjr | me too. | 17:37 |
| betsy_ | I’m good | 17:37 |
| timsim | FYI vinod1's yes means he has nothing else ;) | 17:37 |
| Kiall | vinod1: yes, as you you have another topic? or "Yes, no other topics?" | 17:38 |
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| Kiall | lol.. Okay then :) | 17:38 |
| Kiall | http://docs.hpcloud.com/helion/openstack/install/dnsaas/ <-- Olso, FYI.. the HP OpenStack Distro which includes Designate shipped :) | 17:38 |
| Kiall | Oh, also& | 17:38 |
| Kiall | Oh, also* | 17:38 |
| vinod1 | Too much work on oslo? | 17:38 |
| ekarlso | hmm. summit Kiall ? | 17:38 |
| betsy_ | nice | 17:38 |
| ekarlso | oslo what? | 17:38 |
| Kiall | ekarlso: As I mentioned earlier, mugsie had that topic but he's had to leave the office early.. Will have to wait for him :) | 17:39 |
| Kiall | Okay, well, thanks all! | 17:39 |
| ekarlso | ah ok | 17:39 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 8 17:39:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-10-08-17.03.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-10-08-17.03.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-10-08-17.03.log.html | 17:39 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 8 18:02:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:02 |
| denis_makogon | o/ | 18:02 |
| ramashri | o/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Giving folks a few minutes to trickle in. | 18:02 |
| esmute | o/ | 18:02 |
| amcrn | o/ | 18:02 |
| schang | o/ | 18:02 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | Agenda at: | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:04 |
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| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:04 |
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| kevincon_ | o/ | 18:04 |
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| SlickNik | #Topic rdservers related logic change | 18:05 |
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| SlickNik | rumale, around? | 18:05 |
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| mattgriffin | o/ | 18:05 |
| ramashri | yep | 18:05 |
| ramashri | so all, feel free to peruse the text in https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1376525 | 18:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1376525 in trove "mgmt-show reports server as null" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:05 |
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| ramashri | to give some context for this bug, we wanted the compute instance id back as part of trove mgmt-show for debugging purposes... turns out we already have server information as part of the schema thats coming back as null... some digging into the bug revealed that though the server information was retrieved correctly the attributes of the server that were being accessed was not present on the devstack deployment. After fixing the bug in | 18:06 |
| ramashri | which we check for presence of attributes before accessing them... Auston brought it to my attention that this might change the logic for those who are counting on the attribute access throwing an exception and being caught in the exception bloc below | 18:06 |
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| ramashri | counting on exception to drive the logic is not the most obvious flow imo... anyway would like folks to chime in if the fix might affect them negatively | 18:07 |
| amcrn | i.e. if you're using rdservers as a backdoor, this might have implications for you. | 18:07 |
| sgotliv | o/ | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | amcrn: I don't think HP is doing anything like that with rdservers, so I don't think this will affect HP. | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | And I don't see any rackers around. | 18:09 |
| amrith | do we want to wait for a confirmation from rax | 18:09 |
| amrith | before moving forward? | 18:09 |
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| SlickNik | ramashri: Can you follow up with folks from rax offline? I think they might be at a conference that overlaps with this meeting. | 18:10 |
| ramashri | gotcha... ok | 18:10 |
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| SlickNik | Okay, anything else? | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | sounds like not. | 18:11 |
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| SlickNik | #topic FOSS Outreach Program Projects | 18:11 |
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| amrith | iccha is out and won't be able to attend the meeting tomorrow, so I'm bringing this up on her behalf. | 18:11 |
| amrith | The deadline for applications for GNOME OPW is Octoebr 22nd. In order for the applicants to submit their applications, they need to include a description of the project taht they will be working on. | 18:11 |
| amrith | There are currently a few possible applicants. | 18:11 |
| amrith | What we (as a community) owe them is a commitment of a project or projects that they will be working on. | 18:11 |
| amrith | there are a couple of bp's that are currently in the queue for Kilo that could be candidates. | 18:12 |
| amrith | The goal is to get projects that are clearly defined, and well contained. The deliverable is that they will work on this project in a 3 month period Dec 9 to March 9. | 18:12 |
| amrith | Iccha will be the mentor for these individuals. | 18:12 |
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| amrith | I would like to fast track the decision of what project(s) we would like these individuals to work on. Ideally, if we can pick up a couple of blueprints and assign them to Iccha, it would be her responsibility to get the BP's finished, reviewed and implemented. | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | #link http://gnome.org/opw/ | 18:12 |
| amrith | I'll wait for y'all to read ... | 18:12 |
| denis_makogon | i've got few suggestions about actual BPs | 18:13 |
| kevinconway | amrith: iccha is aware that we're dumping this responsibility on her correct? | 18:13 |
| amrith | kevinconway, yes. I spoke with her about this yesterday | 18:13 |
| SlickNik | kevinconway: yup, iccha brought it up with me as well. | 18:13 |
| amrith | and she had some suggestions for bp's as well. | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | I'd suggest we get an etherpad / wiki page started with project BP ideas. | 18:14 |
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| denis_makogon | not so long ago i've talked to her about what can we do for her, and i came into conclusion that we can suggest to take over configuration groups for other datastores | 18:14 |
| grapex | >-o< | 18:14 |
| amrith | in speaking with her yesterday | 18:14 |
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| amrith | given the scope of the project and the time available | 18:15 |
| amrith | the two that came up were retreiving logs from guests and the ceilometer integration. | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-opw-projects-kilo | 18:15 |
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| denis_makogon | i think ceilo integration can work well for her | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: I agree — both of those seem pretty self contained and relevant to Trove. | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | iccha / amrith: I'll brainstorm some additional project ideas and add it to that etherpad page. | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | Do you guys know if there is a deadline we're working with? | 18:18 |
| amrith | sounds good, let's take this offline on the etherpad. | 18:18 |
| denis_makogon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124717/ - spec for logs | 18:18 |
| amrith | the deadline is pretty close | 18:18 |
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| amrith | oct 20th for the applications. | 18:18 |
| amrith | and that's the current forcing function | 18:19 |
| amrith | so if we can get an answer to iccha before the end of the week, she'll at least be able to communicate that with applicants | 18:19 |
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| denis_makogon | i would say that we should end up with a concrete decision by the next meeting (wed. 15) | 18:19 |
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| SlickNik | denis_makogon: From the sound of it that will be too late; we need it earlier than that. | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | I'll try and put in some more ideas by tomorrow / Fri at the latest. | 18:20 |
| denis_makogon | sounds like a plan | 18:20 |
| SlickNik | Will follow up with iccha and amrith when I've done so. | 18:21 |
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| SlickNik | #action SlickNik to add BP candidates to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-opw-projects-kilo for OPW | 18:21 |
| SlickNik | Anything else you want to add amrith? | 18:22 |
| amrith | nope, thanks all | 18:22 |
| amrith | I was trying to see if iccha is around | 18:22 |
| amrith | but didn't get anything back from her. | 18:22 |
| amrith | so, sounds like a plan for now. | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: cool, thanks! | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:23 |
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| denis_makogon | i've got one | 18:23 |
| SlickNik | I have one too. | 18:24 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: go ahead | 18:24 |
| denis_makogon | thanks | 18:24 |
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| denis_makogon | just want to remind to all that since Kilo is opened it would be great so see some activity around reveiwing specs | 18:25 |
| amrith | SlickNik, I have one too. | 18:25 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: good point. I had sent spec links in my last email. Would be good to get eyeballs on those when folks have a chance. | 18:26 |
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| SlickNik | amrith: go for it. | 18:27 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, I will pass. | 18:28 |
| amrith | Having a sidebar conversation about it | 18:28 |
| amrith | so it is premature to have a conversation here. | 18:28 |
| amrith | sorry | 18:28 |
| SlickNik | np | 18:29 |
| amrith | I will bring it up in next meeting (relates to oslo.messaging) | 18:29 |
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| SlickNik | I have a comment about rdjenkins. | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | So it looks like the HP 1.0 environment that it was running on has been sunset. | 18:29 |
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| SlickNik | And so it lives no more. | 18:30 |
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| denis_makogon | SlickNik, oh | 18:30 |
| denis_makogon | sound bad =/ | 18:30 |
| vipul | so we have no CI :D | 18:30 |
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| denis_makogon | vipul, fake would be enough =) | 18:31 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Wow, that is really bad | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | *fake CI | 18:31 |
| grapex | Like is it dead already? | 18:31 |
| vipul | denis_makogon: i'm not so sure ;) | 18:31 |
| grapex | Or just dead in mobster terms | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | unfortunately i have nothing to report on investigating dsvm-gate | 18:31 |
| grapex | like "eh, there's a dead guy walking there!" | 18:31 |
| denis_makogon | at least yet | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | So I see two options: | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | 1. We can bring up a new rdjenkins in the new HP environment | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | 2. We've been wanting to move to OpenStack CI, and we're close, just need to figure out a couple of issues — this is a good forcing function | 18:32 |
| denis_makogon | 2nd sound like a plan | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | I'm leaning towards putting in the elbow grease for 2. | 18:32 |
| denis_makogon | but woudn't it block development? | 18:32 |
| cp16net | yeah sounds like a plan | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | Nope, it would only block merging of code. | 18:33 |
| grapex | SlickNik: So are the raptor fences off right now? | 18:33 |
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| SlickNik | denis_makogon: You can still run your own int-tests (like we have been doing all along :)) | 18:34 |
| denis_makogon | yeah, true | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | grapex: Oh the dinosaurs are alive and thriving. | 18:35 |
| denis_makogon | FYI, i've wrote small script to run dsvm gate localy, would be nice to hear any feedback for it https://gist.github.com/denismakogon/10eaaafaa69df801cb9b | 18:35 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Honestly, fake mode with Tox in the gate blocks a pretty large number of bugs. | 18:35 |
| grapex | But I think RdJenkins improved quality a lot | 18:35 |
| grapex | we had fewer regressions as it improved | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | grapex: I'm planning to have the exact same int-tests run in OpenStack CI | 18:35 |
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| grapex | SlickNik: I knew you would. :) <3 | 18:36 |
| denis_makogon | so, any help with getting new CI running would be appreciated | 18:36 |
| SlickNik | denis_makogon: That looks very much like what the trove-functional-test gate is doing. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | Anyhow, I will send out more details once I have a path forward. Will keep you guys updated. | 18:38 |
| grapex | Thanks SlickNik | 18:38 |
| denis_makogon | correct, but that job is still experimental due to several issues, just wanted to reduce manual operations | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | Okay, that's all I had on that. | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Anything else for open-discussion? | 18:39 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 8 18:41:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-10-08-18.02.html | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-10-08-18.02.txt | 18:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-10-08-18.02.log.html | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | Thanks folks! | 18:41 |
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| grapex | Thanks SlickNik! | 18:43 |
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| sbalukoff | #startmeeting Octavia | 19:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 8 19:59:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sbalukoff. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
| blogan | hi | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| sbalukoff | Hi folks! | 20:00 |
| ptoohill | hello | 20:00 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 20:00 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
| ptoohill | o/ | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | As usual, the agenda for today's meeting is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Agenda | 20:00 |
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| sbalukoff | This might be a shorter meeting today (yay!) | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | #topic Update on BP / Gerrit review progress | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update on BP / Gerrit review progress (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| johnsom_ | Hello | 20:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:01 |
| sballe | o? | 20:01 |
| sballe | o/ | 20:01 |
| blogan | operator-api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121233/ ready to be reviewed | 20:01 |
| tmc3inphilly | Good day | 20:01 |
| blogan | though I do need to add more comments | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | blogan's is huge-- but it's the first significant amount of real code for this project. | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | So, huzzah! | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | And yes, we need to get eyes on that. | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | (I'll be working on that tomorrow, blogan... probably all of tomorrow. ;) ) | 20:02 |
| sballe | blogan: Great job! | 20:02 |
| TrevorV | sbalukoff thinking my repository review isn't significant... thanks bruh, I appreciate that | 20:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:02 |
| johnsom_ | Nice | 20:02 |
| blogan | yes it is huge, tests end up doing that | 20:02 |
| sballe | :-) | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Sorry-- I didn't mean to disrespect your work, eh. | 20:03 |
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| blogan | btw I went with functional tests for the API, unit tests with mocks is a pain in the ass with wsme and pecan decorators | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan: I've no doubt it's as long as it needs to be, and I personally dislike having to split these things up if they're all truly related. | 20:04 |
| dougwig | you can mock those by monkey-patching | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | I could also use some eyes on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126801/ | 20:04 |
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| rm_work | we'll want unit tests eventually, yes | 20:04 |
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| rm_work | but functional tests are great too :) | 20:05 |
| ptoohill | unit tests are for the devil | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | (It's an initial draft, and I'm expecting to have to change things, especially in light of what comes from later meeting topics.) | 20:05 |
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| blogan | dougwig: monkey patching would have to be done at hte right time, it was just a nightmare, we can talk about it after | 20:05 |
| dougwig | k, no worries. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, anyone have anything else they'd like to say about the in progress review stuff? | 20:05 |
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| sballe | sbalukoff: Can you add the review to: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-pending-reviews | 20:06 |
| davidlenwell | +1 | 20:06 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:06 |
| sballe | That where I go to get a status on hwta needs my attention | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Yep, sorry, hadn't gotten that done yet. | 20:06 |
| sballe | s/what | 20:06 |
| blogan | but yeah unit tests are not impossible, it just would have added a lot of time and extra work that some poor soul can do after, unless the majority thinks it is really necessary | 20:06 |
| sballe | blogan: What are the chances they never get done? | 20:07 |
| sballe | because novbody thinks it is fun to do? | 20:07 |
| xgerman | yeah, that worries me, too. Tests are always necessary... | 20:07 |
| rm_work | I had a question about my CR (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123492/) -- originally it was supposed to just be stubs apparently, but I have the actual CODE in that review -- is that ok? or were we trying to do a quick pass and merge all the stubs, then come back and merge the code? | 20:08 |
| sballe | I agree and they make sure we keep things consistent | 20:08 |
| rm_work | (can be dealt with after whatever the current topic is) | 20:08 |
| blogan | sballe, xgerman: don't worry ill do it if no one else wants to | 20:08 |
| rm_work | (didn't actually mean to hit enter yet) | 20:08 |
| davidlenwell | my usually process is write specs then tests then code the api | 20:08 |
| sballe | rm_work: Happy to me once in a while | 20:08 |
| dougwig | rm_work: it's good either way | 20:08 |
| dougwig | unless someone is waiting on you | 20:08 |
| rm_work | kk | 20:08 |
| sballe | davidlenwell: | 20:09 |
| sballe | davidlenwell: +1 | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | davidlenwell you are more disciplined then most | 20:09 |
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| davidlenwell | xgerman: I'm not saying I don't sometimes just write an api while designing it | 20:09 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:10 |
| dougwig | 0.5 is pretty much a learning experience/proof-of-concept. spending more time writing unit tests than doing that research would be counter-productive at this stage. i don't know about y'all, but i don't expect the first stab at the controller to be the final one. | 20:10 |
| dougwig | IMO | 20:10 |
| davidlenwell | it really depends on how defined the end goal is | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:10 |
| sballe | blogan: At this point IMHO we should have unit tests to make sure that pieces aren't breaking. It is less of a problem since you are one of the few writting code right now. But as the group grows it will become a MUST have | 20:10 |
| davidlenwell | part of the core concept behind scrum is that you need/want to be able to pivot easily .. if you have a lot of tests that becomes harder to do | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | davidlenwell: It's not as well defined as we'd like, despite months of discussion, design work, etc. Some of the things we're going to do still need to be figured out. | 20:11 |
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| sbalukoff | And I don't think that's unexpected: After all, we have to be practical in how we approach this, IMO. | 20:11 |
| davidlenwell | in those cases I say forgott the tests until they are defined | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | We're still very much at the beginning of code in this project. | 20:12 |
| xgerman | well, there is also the argument that people still use some Neutron LBaaS which was meant to be a prototype in prod | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | And pivots are very likely to happen. | 20:12 |
| davidlenwell | then keeping the test load lighter makes more sense.. | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I have no problem pointing and laughing at people who didn't follow the advice of the people who wrote the code. | 20:13 |
| dougwig | i, personally, like just enough unit tests to catch gross import and syntax errors, at a minimum. but if blogan thinks the payoff on full unit tests isn't there right now, i can see a good argument for not going hog wild. | 20:13 |
| davidlenwell | I'm not saying don't have tests.. you need some tests .. | 20:13 |
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| davidlenwell | dougwig: +1 | 20:13 |
| xgerman | dougwig +1 | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:13 |
| blogan | sballe: honestly neutron, ironic, and barbican do not have unit tests for their API, they only have functional tests. Now, obviously that argument is teh same as saying we should do the same wrong thing because other people do it, but just throwing it out there | 20:13 |
| sballe | I agree on the pivots. They will happen. dougwig I agree with your comment | 20:13 |
| rm_work | well, he said he has functional tests... those count as "some tests" to me | 20:13 |
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| ptoohill | rm_work +1 | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: +1 | 20:14 |
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| sbalukoff | Aanyway! | 20:14 |
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| sbalukoff | The point is: We need people to get their eyes on blogan's gerrit review. | 20:14 |
| davidlenwell | tag me in reviews | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | If there are specific things you want tested that aren't, point them out in comments. | 20:14 |
| davidlenwell | I'll also try to go out of my way to find them | 20:14 |
| TrevorV | davidlenwell just like all the other people that find them ;) | 20:15 |
| ptoohill | Doesnt gerrit bot link them here? | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | davidlenwell: This can help: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/stackforge/octavia+status:open,n,z | 20:15 |
| ptoohill | or not here, sorry, but openstack-lbaas | 20:15 |
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| sbalukoff | ptoohill: If you're online to see them, yes. | 20:15 |
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| ptoohill | Oh, i have bouncer set up, so i see past messages | 20:16 |
| davidlenwell | should make a plugin for my irc client that just opens a browser window when it see's one | 20:16 |
| ptoohill | forgot, not everyone has one of those fancy things set up | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, I think we should move on to the next topic. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | #topic Floating IPs discussion | 20:16 |
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| sbalukoff | blogan and ptoohill: Can you summarize your thoughts from the ML discussion? | 20:17 |
| ptoohill | Okie, not sure many have looked at the email thread. But i know blogan and dougwig chatted about it a bit and i think we have a temp solution | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Excellent! Let's hear it! | 20:17 |
| ptoohill | The problem is/was that the vip/port is created in the plugin and returned to the user before the drivers get to do anything with it.. | 20:18 |
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| ptoohill | and currently there is no code to actually handle the association of the flip in the plugin | 20:18 |
| ptoohill | So, this would mean, if we want to do it on behalf of the user, that the drivers or the plugin would need to be updated to handle this. That way the user can be fed a FLIP | 20:19 |
| ptoohill | But | 20:19 |
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| dougwig | though neutron can still assign flip's to vip ip's. the table is just stored outside the lbaas db, and not show via the lbaas CLI commands. | 20:19 |
| ptoohill | Correct | 20:19 |
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| ptoohill | which was what i was typing | 20:19 |
| dougwig | and i would argue that assignment of flip's to internal ip's should remain a function of neutron, not lbaas, though we can enhance the display/create portions to automate that. | 20:20 |
| ptoohill | So, the 'temp' solution would be to let the user associate the vip themselves and they would know what the flip is at that point | 20:20 |
| dougwig | and by "the user", it could be a custom UI, or a custom CLI, etc... doesn't have to be the end customer. | 20:20 |
| ptoohill | indeed | 20:20 |
| ptoohill | but, this is where the discussion' was supposed to happen | 20:21 |
| ptoohill | and, also this solution requires no change at this point | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | What's the "permanent" solution? | 20:21 |
| ptoohill | good question | 20:21 |
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| dougwig | nova has a concept of auto-assigning a flip, and 'nova show' returns associated flips. i'd suggest a similar model. | 20:22 |
| ptoohill | A possible solution, or what we would want, is to associate the flip and return it to the user in the sync part of the api | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Right. So stated another way, if we were designing this from scratch and could make Neutron do whatever we want, how would we want to handle this? | 20:22 |
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| dougwig | that doesn't change my answer; not sure about others. | 20:23 |
| xgerman | so basically we have to cases: | 20:23 |
| xgerman | 1) The user gives us an FLIP and we assign it | 20:23 |
| xgerman | 2) We get one ourselves and return to the user | 20:23 |
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| xgerman | (1) is possible today; (2) needs changes? | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | The user only really cares about the FLIP because that's what they're going to be pointing their DNS entries, etc. at... but otherwise doesn't care how it gets plumbed, etc. | 20:24 |
| ptoohill | Its possible today assuming the user makes an additional call to view the flip and its association | 20:24 |
| TrevorV | xgerman the problem for (2) is the user gets a response before we're able to get the FLIP and respond. (if I understand correctly) | 20:25 |
| blogan | well 1) is really the user is given a neutron port, and they create their own FLIP and associate it with that neutron port | 20:25 |
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| ptoohill | xgerman +1 | 20:25 |
| ptoohill | oh | 20:25 |
| ptoohill | i mean TrevorV | 20:25 |
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| blogan | for 1) neutron lbaas would not know about the FLIP | 20:25 |
| dougwig | keep in mind that the api should not be catering to the user, but rather to the operator. | 20:25 |
| xgerman | TrevorV that's not a problem. In libra you have to call show on the LB to get the FLIP if you didn't provide one | 20:25 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: Are you talking about the Neutron LBaaS API? | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Because I thought that's what we were talking about. | 20:26 |
| ptoohill | Yes, but the intital response would have the private net vip port IP | 20:26 |
| blogan | dougwig: actually I disagree with that, I think a user friendly API should be a goal | 20:26 |
| xgerman | blogan +1 | 20:26 |
| sballe | blogan: +1 | 20:26 |
| ptoohill | They would have to make addiational calls, that may not show the initial IP we gave them in the response | 20:27 |
| dougwig | i think it's up to the operators, horizon, or the CLI, to make higher level operations out of lower-level primitives. otherwise we risk miring lbaas in floating ip details that should be being handled by the floating ip modules. | 20:27 |
| ptoohill | But, yes, this is all possible today assuming we ensure the user handles it | 20:27 |
| blogan | but there is a gray area of how much orchestration a service should do and when it should leave it to an actual orchestration layer | 20:27 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: I have a hard-stop at 4:30pm (org-wide meeting) so I am going to sync-up with blogan, sbalukoff, etc. and get the diagram updated to reflect the current state and we can discuss it next week. I would like to make sure that as decisions are made we reflect it into this diagram. I had for example no idea that blogan was adding a layer which I | 20:27 |
| sballe | didn’t see discussed anywhere. | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Your hard stop is in 2 minutes? | 20:28 |
| sballe | yes | 20:28 |
| xgerman | it's actually a HP hard stop | 20:28 |
| sballe | I am already on the other call. | 20:28 |
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| rm_work | well, this could also be a topic for tomorrow's meeting, more appropriately I think | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Unfortunately I'm going to be unavailable next week. But, I can sync up with you in the next couple of days. | 20:28 |
| blogan | sballe: i mentioned it barely in a meeting, but yeah it came about late for sure | 20:28 |
| rm_work | since it's a neutron-lbaas layer thing | 20:28 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: yes let's do that | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Agreed! | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | It's just as much about Neutron LBaaS v2 as it is about octavia. | 20:29 |
| sballe | blogan: no problem. we just need to add it to the diagram | 20:29 |
| rm_work | hmm | 20:29 |
| ptoohill | I think we were ok with assuming the user would handle it for now, but would really like it to be 'automated' however thats going to happen | 20:29 |
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| ptoohill | Primary issue is returning a vip in the create response that may not work/be used after the LB is created | 20:30 |
| dougwig | an optional config setting to automate it would be something that'd i'd certainly support. | 20:30 |
| blogan | thats what we figured we woudl do | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | To be honest, I'm a little worried about the semantics of how FLIPs are handled and how they're eventually going to have to work with, say, Octavia v2.0 (ie. active-active topologies). I've been trying to make time to work on diagramming this all out... which I think could be very enlightening to the current discussion. | 20:30 |
| dougwig | likewise, we can lookup the mapping and return it in vip show today without much effort. | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | I apologize that I've not been able to bring that to the group yet. | 20:31 |
| blogan | or it'd be a flavor thing, though thats still ambiguous | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | s/semantics/specifics/ | 20:31 |
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| xgerman | I think the "lazy" customer sshould bes upported ina ll falvors | 20:31 |
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| dougwig | i still don't think we're talking customers here. just who has to do the extra work: neutron or the operator. | 20:32 |
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| sballe | operator wouldn't that be the user? | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Not really. | 20:32 |
| sballe | What would be an example? | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | At least, not if I'm understanding dougwig correctly. | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | (which I may not be.) | 20:33 |
| sballe | to me the user is the one setting up the lbs. | 20:33 |
| sballe | or requesting them | 20:33 |
| dougwig | e.g. go buy an instance at rax. you don't have to ask for a floating ip. but neutron doesn't automate those. | 20:33 |
| * sballe on hold getting ready for the org-wide meeting | 20:33 | |
| johnsom_ | Shouldn't we expect that creation is an async operation from the user perspective? As sbalukoff mentioned, in v2 with active-active I suspect that setup is going to take some time, whether you front the vip with a flip or not. | 20:33 |
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| rm_work | dougwig: well, we don't have floating IPs yet, so that is part of why :P | 20:34 |
| ptoohill | thats sorta the point johnsom_ | 20:34 |
| rm_work | we used fixed-ips generated via some nova-neutron integration magic | 20:34 |
| dougwig | well, yeah, but you do have public vs internal IPs. | 20:34 |
| ptoohill | The user will get a privatenet vip instead of the flip in the response | 20:34 |
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| sbalukoff | I'm not really hearing strong opinions in any particular direction here. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | And I'm guessing that's because this is a somewhat difficult problem to understand. | 20:37 |
| blogan | it is | 20:37 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: I agree. I think we'll learn more as we go | 20:37 |
| ptoohill | Indeed :/ | 20:37 |
| blogan | and im sure more surprises will come up | 20:37 |
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| xgerman | well, it not being synchronous is fine | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Would it help to actually have someone write down a step-by-step provisioning process (or create a diagram of the same) for each proposed solution? | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | Part of the problem with 2) above is that it seems really nebulous right now to me, and therefore is difficult to have any idea how to compare this practically with 1) | 20:38 |
| johnsom_ | I plan to do some sequence diagrams as part of the controller work | 20:39 |
| sballe | yes. I was looking for the LBaaS API v2 and was trying to do this last week but ran out of time | 20:39 |
| blogan | sballe: trying to associate a flip with the neutron vip port? | 20:39 |
| sballe | hre is a great free program: https://www.websequencediagrams.com/# | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | ptoohill: Would you be willing to do this? Write either a step-by-step description of the processes or create a diagram for each? | 20:39 |
| sballe | blogan: no just what would the step be for a user to ask for a load-balncer | 20:40 |
| blogan | ah okay | 20:40 |
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| sbalukoff | Did we lose ptoohill? | 20:40 |
| * sballe needs to pay attention to the presentaion. I will catch up with you later | 20:40 | |
| ptoohill | Im here, sorry, chatting outside of IRC, yea I can write that up | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks. | 20:41 |
| rm_work | we're discussing internally, lol | 20:41 |
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| TrevorV | sbalukoff, action item him... DO IT | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | #action ptoohill to create step-by-step process description for options for FLIP management. | 20:42 |
| rm_work | so, AFAICT we'd need to almost leave it up to the driver layer, because for Octavia, *Octavia* needs to be in control of the FLIP for failover/scaling | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: NOT ALLOWED! | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | (you know, since we're all supposed to be talking on IRC. ;) ) | 20:42 |
| rm_work | T_T | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: I suspect that's correct. | 20:42 |
| blogan | how else are we going to say bad things about you without fear of your wrath? | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, I'll know. | 20:43 |
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| ptoohill | O.O | 20:43 |
| dougwig | rm_work: there is nothing preventing us from putting flip interfaces into octavia's network/neutron interface layer. it certainly does not have to be in the driver only. | 20:43 |
| * ptoohill scared now | 20:43 | |
| sbalukoff | Ok, so... let's continue this discussion once we have more concrete process to evaluate, eh. | 20:43 |
| dougwig | in fact, for L3 active:standby, it'll be required. | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, the next agenda item is to discuss sballe's diagram. | 20:44 |
| rm_work | but sballe just left T_T | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | #topic Discuss sballe's LBaaSv2 workflow diagram: https://region-a.geo-1.objects.hpcloudsvc.com/v1/52059731204378/LBaaS/LBv2_workflow.GIF | 20:44 |
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| rm_work | we maybe should have done this first | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | I think we can still discuss some of that... | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | I think she was interested in knowing what's incorrect / missing. | 20:44 |
| rm_work | right | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Yeah, I didn't know she'd be leaving. | 20:44 |
| sballe | I would liek to update it to reflect the current status | 20:44 |
| blogan | i commented earlier on it, i think she got it | 20:45 |
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| rm_work | so my comment earlier was about the second and third to last elements | 20:45 |
| sballe | yep. | 20:45 |
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| rm_work | but yeah I think we all pretty much agreed | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah on that: | 20:45 |
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| sballe | sbalukoff: I'll reach out to you tomorrow to get your input | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: I'm generally in agreement that the thing controlling the API and the thing controlling haproxy might not be the same thing. | 20:45 |
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| rm_work | hmm | 20:46 |
| rm_work | so TWO processes running on the Amphora? | 20:46 |
| rm_work | how do THEY communicate? | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | There are potentially quite a few components "doing stuff" on the amphora... | 20:46 |
| rm_work | does the agent need an API so the API can contact it? do we need rabbitMQ on the Amphora? T_T | 20:46 |
| blogan | the handler layer I talked about can be discussed here, to see if people dont think it is needed or if it is | 20:46 |
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| sbalukoff | rm_work: I don't think so. | 20:46 |
| rm_work | (you can tell i think both of those are ridiculous) | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Let's get to that in a minute. | 20:47 |
| blogan | sure | 20:47 |
| rm_work | so, the only case that having two separate processes running *on the amphora* is if there is zero intercommunication between the two and they are completely autonomous | 20:47 |
| rm_work | which is not what the diagram shows right now :p | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: I'm thinking that will largely be the case. | 20:47 |
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| sbalukoff | rm_work: The thing emmitting health status information doesn't need to talk to the thing handling the API | 20:47 |
| rm_work | so then, the diagram needs to update to not show them communicating | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | All it needs to do is discover when a config has changed (which it can do on the fly) and alter its output accordingly. | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Aah! Yes, I agree. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | basically, the API talks directly to ha-proxy and the Agent talks BACK to the controller / operator api | 20:48 |
| xgerman | the health thing should know when the api thing restarts stuff | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: Yep. | 20:48 |
| rm_work | so, depicting THAT correctly would be my only concern so far | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Fine, then it can look at process timestamps or something. | 20:48 |
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| xgerman | processes die unplanned, too, just saying | 20:49 |
| sballe | rm_work: Is the "API talks directly to ha-proxy" only for 0.5? To me we need a separation there in the future | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: And the healthcheck thingy should be able to detect that. :) | 20:49 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:49 |
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| sbalukoff | sballe: You're in another meeting! Go away! ;) | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Seriously, though: Why? | 20:50 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: I can't since you are discussing the diagram | 20:50 |
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| sbalukoff | sballe: Oh! Ok-- we can stop discussing that if you'd like. | 20:50 |
| sballe | sbalukoff: I am assumign eventually we'll support other software LB than haproxy | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | (If you'd rather be able to devote your whole attention to it.) | 20:50 |
| blogan | won't that just be another image? | 20:51 |
| blogan | or another amphora image | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: We certainly will. And that will require its own amphora driver and own amphora type. | 20:51 |
| rm_work | sballe: can you link to the websequencediagram page with the source for that? | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: +1 | 20:51 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: +1 | 20:51 |
| dougwig | blogan: +1 | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | Behind the amphora driver, we can and will be haproxy-specific. | 20:52 |
| dougwig | it's important to separate interfaces/architecture with the specific implementation, and IMO, the architecture stops at the interface to the amphora. | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:52 |
| sballe | dougwig ok. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | well, people might want to "reuse" the haproxy driver for something else... | 20:52 |
| xgerman | but they are on their own | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Sure, use it as a template. That's fine. But again, there's no reason to make the haproxy amphora handle anything other than haproxy. | 20:53 |
| xgerman | yep, exactly | 20:53 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:53 |
| rm_work | sballe: I meant the Amphora-side API | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Anyway... We're nearly out of time... I will be out of the office next week, but y'all should discuss this further then too. | 20:54 |
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| sbalukoff | ok, One last topic | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | #topic Facilitator for 2014-10-15 meeting | 20:54 |
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| sbalukoff | I'm gone all next week. Who wants to run the meeting? | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | (And send out reminders, etc.) | 20:55 |
| blogan | ill be here | 20:55 |
| blogan | oh no | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | Too late! | 20:55 |
| blogan | well ill do it if no one else wants it | 20:55 |
| dougwig | ditto | 20:55 |
| blogan | dougwig you already do the neutron lbaas one | 20:56 |
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| dougwig | i'm not saying i like running meetings, and you've already called dibs. | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | #action blogan and dougwig to run next week's Octavia meeting | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:56 |
| xgerman | joint meeting ;-) | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | #topic Open Discussion | 20:57 |
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| sbalukoff | Anyone have anything else to discuss in the last 2 minutes? | 20:57 |
| dougwig | if you've got items for the neutron lbaas meeting, please edit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS | 20:57 |
| blogan | the handler layer | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Thanks for the reminder, eh! | 20:57 |
| blogan | between octavia api and controller | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Oh crapsticks. | 20:57 |
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| blogan | since 0.5 is not going ot have a queue, we will send requests straight to controller | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Sorry, I forgot to address that. | 20:58 |
| blogan | 1.0 will have a queue so we'll need to send it to the queue | 20:58 |
| TrevorV | blogan I can't say we have enough time to seriously address this... | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: And your idea is to have a 'handler' which will eventually go to a queue? | 20:58 |
| dougwig | let's punt this to the channel? | 20:58 |
| blogan | the handler is essentially an abstraction layer taht we can swap out each functionality | 20:58 |
| blogan | okay | 20:58 |
| dougwig | unless this channel isn't booked now. | 20:58 |
| TrevorV | si dougwig | 20:58 |
| TrevorV | Might as well migrate (to be on the safe-side) | 20:58 |
| blogan | regular channel is fine | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, punt to channel, then discuss whatever we come up with at next week's meeting. | 20:59 |
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| xgerman | bye | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | (Mostly to respect those who might have other things they need to get to immediately.) | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Yep, thanks for coming, folks! | 20:59 |
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| dougwig | bye | 20:59 |
| TrevorV | \o | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 8 21:00:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-08-19.59.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-08-19.59.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2014/octavia.2014-10-08-19.59.log.html | 21:00 |
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| ptoohill | \0 | 21:00 |
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| ptoohill | wrong window | 23:30 |
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