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baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 13:00:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:00 |
baoli | Hi there | 13:00 |
irenab | hi | 13:00 |
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baoli | irenab, I've posted the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126357/. Can you review? | 13:04 |
irenab | baoli: sure | 13:05 |
baoli | also, I've tested it on Intel card. Is it possible to test it on mlnx card? | 13:05 |
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irenab | will do it soon | 13:05 |
baoli | irenab, cool, thanks | 13:05 |
irenab | thanks for posting the patch | 13:06 |
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baoli | other than that, I don't have much to report. | 13:07 |
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baoli | There is a bug regarding pci_request_id: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1377447 | 13:09 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1377447 in nova "pci_request_id break the upgrade from icehouse to Juno" [Critical,In progress] | 13:09 |
baoli | has anyone tried to run Juno controller with Icehouse compute? | 13:10 |
irenab | baoli: me not | 13:10 |
sadasu | No haven't tried that.. | 13:10 |
rpothier | I haven't | 13:10 |
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baoli | I remember that I could do that earlier. But now I got an RPC unsupported version TB on the Icehouse compute. | 13:11 |
rpothier | I was getting an error when my compute node was just a bit older than the controller | 13:12 |
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baoli | anything else you guys want to talk about? | 13:14 |
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irenab | I do not have to much update | 13:15 |
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sadasu | is heyongli in the meeting? | 13:15 |
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baoli | he is still on vacation, maybe trapped in traffic | 13:16 |
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baoli | it's a national holidays, and tens of millions people will travel | 13:16 |
sadasu | :-).OK. he was going to update us on whether an API already exists to report a list of currently available PCI devices per host | 13:16 |
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irenab | sadasu: any update on horison support for SR-IOV port? | 13:17 |
irenab | I have question regarding the documentation | 13:18 |
sadasu | irenab: not update | 13:18 |
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sadasu | go ahead with doc questions | 13:19 |
irenab | currently we created the wiki for pci passthrough networking | 13:20 |
irenab | what about openstack guides? | 13:21 |
baoli | irenab, what's the link? | 13:21 |
irenab | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SR-IOV-Passthrough-For-Networking | 13:21 |
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baoli | irenab, cool | 13:22 |
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baoli | we talked about the guide before. I think that we just need volunteer to do it. | 13:22 |
irenab | please see if there is something to add/fix. | 13:22 |
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baoli | irenab, I'm working on the devstack config. Once it's completed, I'll need to update the wiki. | 13:23 |
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irenab | baoli: thanks | 13:24 |
baoli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124502/6 | 13:24 |
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baoli | we need to be able to configure the whitelist and alias from local.conf | 13:25 |
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irenab | there is also some patch that omri from our group is working on devstack support for ml2 with sriov | 13:28 |
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irenab | I baoli: I think you can collaborate | 13:29 |
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baoli | is there a patch already available? | 13:29 |
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irenab | not much updated, a min | 13:30 |
irenab | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110051/ | 13:31 |
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irenab | I know he looks for a way to add white_list | 13:33 |
baoli | irenab, I'll take a look and comment | 13:33 |
irenab | baoli: thanks | 13:33 |
baoli | irenab, whitelist and alias are multi-line options. | 13:34 |
irenab | baoli: do you see the explanation in the nova admin guide for this? It should be generated automatically | 13:35 |
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baoli | irenab, I haven't checked that. Do you have a link handy | 13:35 |
irenab | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html | 13:36 |
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irenab | baoli: it is explained well | 13:37 |
irenab | I thill think there should be a place to define available options (as in the spec) | 13:37 |
baoli | irenab, not sure I understand your last comment | 13:38 |
irenab | since there are different ways to define white lists | 13:38 |
baoli | irenab, I see what you are saying | 13:38 |
irenab | we can add it to the wiki, but I think it should be in the admin guide | 13:39 |
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baoli | irenab, I agree. So we need volunteer | 13:39 |
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irenab | I'll try to take a look to see where it makes sence to add it. Then let's see how to contribute | 13:41 |
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baoli | irenab, cool. I couldn't find time to do it. | 13:42 |
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irenab | I am not sure I'll have time to update, but at least let's see where it should be | 13:43 |
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baoli | irenab, sure. | 13:44 |
irenab | I have to leave in few mins, is there something else we want to cover today? | 13:44 |
baoli | that's all from my side. | 13:45 |
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sadasu | none from my side | 13:45 |
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baoli | See you guys next time | 13:46 |
irenab | cool, so for me its to review the patch for macvtap and check regarding documentation place for white list | 13:46 |
sadasu | thanks baoli, irenab | 13:46 |
irenab | for next week | 13:46 |
irenab | thanks guys | 13:46 |
baoli | #endmeeting | 13:47 |
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sc68cal | hello all | 15:00 |
sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 15:01:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:01 |
sc68cal | HenryG: ping | 15:01 |
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sc68cal | I'm hoping we can figure out a way forward on updating ipv6 attributes AKA sometimes None means something other than "None" ;) | 15:02 |
HenryG | o/ | 15:02 |
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HenryG | I really can't see anything wrong with adding the None option. | 15:03 |
HenryG | It seems to work just fine. | 15:03 |
sc68cal | Agree - I just had to remember that sometimes None doesn't mean None lol | 15:03 |
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HenryG | Break it into the two APIs: create and update | 15:04 |
HenryG | For create, None and NOT_SPECIFIED have the same effect. | 15:04 |
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HenryG | For update, None means set the current mode to None/Null/NOT_SET, and NOT_SPECIFIED means don't change anything. | 15:05 |
sc68cal | It's possible the API layer changes the "None" value from python-neutronclient into ATTR_NOT_SPECIFIED | 15:06 |
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sc68cal | but yeah basically we just look out for it in the method for updating subnets | 15:07 |
sc68cal | and delete the attributes for an existing subnet | 15:07 |
aveiga | HenryG: doesn't this cause a state conflict? If the user sets NOT_SPECIFIED on create, later changes it to something, then sets NOT_SPEFICIED on a n update later, it's inconsistent | 15:07 |
aveiga | from a user point of view, that is | 15:07 |
sc68cal | aveiga: the problem is the REST API is a little funky on how to delete attributes from an object | 15:07 |
aveiga | ah, ok | 15:08 |
sc68cal | so imagine you created a subnet with an ipv6 attr set | 15:08 |
sc68cal | then you wanted to delete the ipv6 attr, you need to send a JSON object with the ipv6 attr key present, with a value of "None" | 15:08 |
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sc68cal | the API layer does some conversion into a value that it passes into the Neutron REST layer, ATTR_NOT_SPECIFIED | 15:08 |
aveiga | ok, as opposed to not requesting something, which would send a NOT_SPECIFIED over the API call, but would have no effect when actually updating the object? | 15:09 |
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sc68cal | Basically, as long as we don't allow subnet objects to persist in the DB in such a way that the key for the ipv6 attributes exists, but has no value in it | 15:09 |
sc68cal | we should be ok, I think there is logic sprinked around that checks for the key in the dictionary, and assumes a value is present | 15:10 |
aveiga | ok, we can move on from this; don't hold the meeting up explaining things to me | 15:10 |
sc68cal | just worried about bugs popping up | 15:10 |
HenryG | What about the part where the None is converted to NOT_SPECIFIED? We need make sure that passing None in the API call clears the attribute in the subnet. | 15:12 |
HenryG | For update. | 15:12 |
sc68cal | agree | 15:12 |
HenryG | I'll check it with the client and report back. | 15:12 |
sc68cal | If I remember correctly - https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362966 | 15:13 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1362966 in neutron "IPv6 two attributes cannot be set to None" [Medium,In progress] | 15:13 |
baoli | is it useful to allow update on them? | 15:13 |
sc68cal | we may need the change to constants.py to allow None as a valid value (ick.) | 15:13 |
sc68cal | so that when you do --action=clear on the CLI it'll go through | 15:14 |
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sc68cal | as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125328/7 does | 15:14 |
sc68cal | baoli: I think it is, just because all the other API objects allow you to update | 15:15 |
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baoli | sc68cal: not all of them allow updates. | 15:15 |
sc68cal | baoli: oh? hmmmmmm | 15:16 |
HenryG | I believe amotoki was also asking about subnet updates | 15:16 |
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* sc68cal looks at resources.py | 15:17 | |
baoli | for example, 'cidr' can't be updated | 15:17 |
sc68cal | baoli: ah! that's a great point | 15:17 |
baoli | it's attributes.py | 15:17 |
amotoki | I am not sure it is useful. I just wanted to point out that the current behavior is incomplete. | 15:17 |
sc68cal | We could make a case that similar to cidr attr, you shouldn't be able to change the v6 attrs after the fact | 15:18 |
amotoki | Setting allow_put to False is a good candiate. | 15:18 |
sc68cal | amotoki: agree | 15:18 |
sc68cal | I wouldn't be surprised if the stuff on the back-end like radvd and dnsmasq don't play nicely with updates for v6 attrs | 15:19 |
sc68cal | if you go from like stateful -> slaac | 15:19 |
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sc68cal | no test coverage probably | 15:19 |
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amotoki | As you may know, when we change enable_dhcp from True to False or vise versa, dhcp-agent implemetation does not treat it perfectly :-( | 15:20 |
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HenryG | Does changing allow_put to False count as an API change? | 15:20 |
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amotoki | it is API change but they appeared in juno first time. | 15:20 |
sc68cal | ^ +1 | 15:20 |
amotoki | we can disable *now* | 15:20 |
HenryG | amotoki: I thought they were added in Icehouse? | 15:21 |
sc68cal | HenryG: added, but disabled | 15:21 |
sc68cal | err, hidden | 15:21 |
amotoki | HenryG: but tehy are hidden. | 15:21 |
HenryG | ah yes, sorry | 15:21 |
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sc68cal | so - I like the idea of allow_put = False on the ipv6 attrs. Simple change, and prevents a lot of complexity from popping up | 15:22 |
HenryG | Sounds good to me. | 15:22 |
amotoki | +1 from me. I don't see much value to allow to update these attrs. | 15:23 |
HenryG | Then we don't need to allow None for now? | 15:23 |
sc68cal | (plus amotoki likes it, so that means quicker merge ;) | 15:23 |
sc68cal | HenryG: yes | 15:23 |
amotoki | we need to reach mestery if we have a consensus. | 15:23 |
baoli | +1 | 15:23 |
sc68cal | +1 | 15:23 |
baoli | followup cleanup may be needed | 15:23 |
amotoki | baoli: what kind of cleanup are needed? for Juno? | 15:24 |
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baoli | some code are dealing with updates of those two modes | 15:24 |
HenryG | DocImpact: "Make sure you create your IPv6 subnet right, because you can't update it." :) | 15:24 |
amotoki | baoli: what you mean is to cleanup the dead code. right? | 15:24 |
baoli | amotoki, yes. if update is not allowed, then logic/code to deal with it should be removed | 15:25 |
sc68cal | the patch that sets allow_put will probably delete some tests in the neutron tree | 15:25 |
sc68cal | only thing we need to check is tempest, if there are any update scenarios | 15:25 |
sc68cal | I don't think there are, but there is a chance | 15:25 |
amotoki | one thing we need to consider is neutronclient subnet-update has --ipv6-ra/address-mode already..... | 15:26 |
sc68cal | amotoki: good point | 15:26 |
amotoki | but IMHO it can be acceptable if we have good error message. | 15:26 |
baoli | amothoki, in addition https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117799/13/neutron/db/db_base_plugin_v2.py deals with update | 15:27 |
amotoki | baoli: it can be cleanup later. | 15:27 |
baoli | amotoki: agree | 15:27 |
amotoki | I think it is better to escalate it to dev list and know if our consensus is a good direction or not. we seem to have a consensus to disable PUT. | 15:28 |
sc68cal | amotoki: agreed | 15:29 |
irina_povolotska | hi guys! I wonder if you know that information on neutron plugins is currently being updated in DriverLog and in OpenStack marketplace | 15:29 |
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amotoki | irina_povolotska: this is not the neutron meeting but IPv6 meeting, so I believe it is not a right place to ask. | 15:30 |
sc68cal | who wants to start the thread on the ML | 15:30 |
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amotoki | sc68cal: HenryG: can either of you send a mail? I can send tomorrow morning (roughly 8 hours after), but it is better to send soon. | 15:31 |
HenryG | sc68cal: I don't mind sending the email | 15:31 |
sc68cal | HenryG: sounds good | 15:31 |
amotoki | HenryG: thanks | 15:31 |
HenryG | Reasons for this decision are? ... | 15:31 |
HenryG | Avoiding complexity in the code | 15:32 |
HenryG | Not sure if radvd, dhcp, etc behave well on update | 15:32 |
HenryG | Anything else? | 15:32 |
sc68cal | <sarcasm>makes it easier to close all those bugs</sarcasm> | 15:32 |
sc68cal | as invalid ;) | 15:33 |
baoli | HenryG, I think the main reason is about its usefulness. If there is a good use case, then we should support update | 15:33 |
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sc68cal | We can also make a case, similar to how cidr is not allowed to be updated | 15:33 |
amotoki | I think two points you listed + there is no much value for updating. | 15:33 |
HenryG | Thanks all, sounds like enough info for an email | 15:33 |
amotoki | plus incompleteness of the implementation of update support. | 15:34 |
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amotoki | it is a good reason to disable them in the initial support in juno. | 15:34 |
HenryG | amotoki: got it, thanks | 15:35 |
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HenryG | Is there a bug filed for ipv6_*_mode allow_put=False ? | 15:40 |
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sc68cal | probably not. But we may want to instead link to existing reports | 15:40 |
sc68cal | patch that allows_put should have fixes bug #'s for the existing reports | 15:40 |
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amotoki | sounds good to me. The bug report reveals the need to disable allow_put, so it works for me. | 15:41 |
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sc68cal | 1363064, and 1362966 ? | 15:42 |
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sc68cal | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362966 | 15:42 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1362966 in neutron "IPv6 two attributes cannot be set to None" [Medium,In progress] | 15:42 |
sc68cal | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1363064 | 15:42 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1363064 in neutron "Cannot set only one of IPv6 attributes while second is None" [Low,In progress] | 15:42 |
HenryG | thanks, sounds appropriate | 15:42 |
sc68cal | ^ that one is also update related | 15:42 |
amotoki | agree both are related | 15:43 |
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baoli | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1373417 on the CLI side | 15:44 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1373417 in python-neutronclient "can't update ipv6-ra-mode and ipv6-address-mode due to invalid ip version exception" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:44 |
sc68cal | baoli: good find | 15:45 |
sc68cal | HenryG: if you haven't send the e-mail, probably could link the transcript for this meeting too | 15:46 |
sc68cal | for background and in-depth discussion | 15:46 |
HenryG | sc68cal: OK | 15:46 |
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sc68cal | Anything else to discuss today? | 15:48 |
sc68cal | otherwise I can give everyone back 10 mins | 15:48 |
john-davidge | I'd like to draw some attention to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87987 | 15:48 |
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john-davidge | Seems to be in a pretty good state now, reviews would be appreciated :) | 15:48 |
sc68cal | john-davidge: thanks for the reminder - I see the piece I was looking for (randomness) | 15:49 |
sc68cal | so I'll +1 that :) | 15:49 |
john-davidge | sc68cal: Thanks, hope you like the implementation | 15:49 |
john-davidge | sc68cal: HenryG is to thank for the use of uuidgen! | 15:50 |
sc68cal | only thing that could trip up is if uuidgen isn't on fedora or another distro | 15:51 |
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john-davidge | sc68cal: I believe it's already used elsewhere in devstack, so that would cause wider problems | 15:52 |
sc68cal | john-davidge: yep - good point, I see it used in the Ceph lib | 15:52 |
john-davidge | sc68cal: Was just about to point to that | 15:52 |
sc68cal | so looks like we're good! :) | 15:53 |
john-davidge | great :) | 15:53 |
sc68cal | anything else, in the last 5 minutes? | 15:55 |
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sc68cal | OK everyone, excellent work today, a pleasure working with you all | 15:58 |
sc68cal | until next week! | 15:58 |
amotoki | thanks all! | 15:58 |
sc68cal | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 7 15:58:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-10-07-15.01.html | 15:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-10-07-15.01.txt | 15:58 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-10-07-15.01.log.html | 15:58 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 16:00:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 16:00 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum Our Agenda | 16:00 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
datsun180b | ed cranford | 16:00 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:01 |
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devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 16:01 |
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muralia | murali allada | 16:01 |
james_li | james li | 16:01 |
ravips1 | Ravi Sankar Penta | 16:01 |
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adrian_otto | hi datsun180b, devkulkarni, muralia, james_li, PaulCzar and ravips1 | 16:02 |
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muralia | hi back. | 16:02 |
devkulkarni | hi | 16:02 |
james_li | hi | 16:02 |
PaulCzar | o/ | 16:03 |
gpilz | morning | 16:03 |
adrian_otto | hi gpilz | 16:03 |
adrian_otto | we will begin in just a moment | 16:04 |
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adrian_otto | ok, let's begin | 16:05 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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adrian_otto | (none prepared) | 16:05 |
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adrian_otto | Any announcements from members of the team? | 16:06 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | ravips to file a bug ticket for resolving anticipated compatibility problem with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124889/1 when it merges. | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | Status? | 16:07 |
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ravips1 | completed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126209/ | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | terricic. | 16:07 |
adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETED | 16:07 |
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adrian_otto | ACTION: adrian_otto to investigate using alternatives to openstack/common in Solum, and report back to the team with options. | 16:08 |
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adrian_otto | I took no action on this. | 16:08 |
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adrian_otto | Do we feel comfortable with status quo, or should we press forward on this? | 16:08 |
devkulkarni | I think we agreed that our current strategy is okay | 16:08 |
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adrian_otto | ok, so I will allow that action to drop off for next week | 16:09 |
devkulkarni | +1 | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | that concludes follow-ups on action items | 16:09 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 16:09 |
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adrian_otto | I am not currently bird dog for any BPs | 16:09 |
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adrian_otto | team members are welcome to raise specific work items for discussion | 16:09 |
adrian_otto | ok, let's keep moving through the agenda | 16:10 |
adrian_otto | #topic Paris Summit | 16:10 |
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adrian_otto | last week we referenced an etherpad for listing discussion topics for the design summit. | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | that is here: | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-paris-summit List of DIscussion Topics for Paris Design Summit | 16:11 |
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adrian_otto | most of Solum's contributors will not be in attendance, but we do still plan to meet with those who do attend | 16:11 |
devkulkarni | since some of us are going to be not present it might affect the topics that are discussed | 16:11 |
adrian_otto | precisely. | 16:12 |
adrian_otto | so if you have topics you'd like to cover, feel free to raise them now, or place them on the etherpad | 16:12 |
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adrian_otto | I think we can commit to taking notes, and sharing them with the team, following up on any controversial topics | 16:13 |
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adrian_otto | so even if you are not planning to attend, I encourage you to identify discussion topics | 16:13 |
adrian_otto | I'll pause for just a moment for this, and then we can move to open discussion | 16:14 |
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adrian_otto | ok, here we go | 16:14 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:14 |
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adrian_otto | I think that was the fastest I ever moved through a team meeting | 16:14 |
roshanagr | Roshan Agrawal | 16:14 |
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adrian_otto | hi roshanagr | 16:15 |
roshanagr | Hi Adrian, sorry for being late | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | we have just begun Open Discussion | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | looks like we will have a short meeting today | 16:15 |
roshanagr | ok | 16:15 |
datsun180b | do we still need an alternating meeting schedule? | 16:15 |
adrian_otto | datsun180b: great question. | 16:16 |
datsun180b | are there still solum contributors who find the 5:00pm (for me) meeting easier to attend than this one? | 16:16 |
datsun180b | obviously this audience is stacked | 16:16 |
datsun180b | perhaps i should bring it up next week instead? | 16:16 |
adrian_otto | this is a good time to talk through it | 16:16 |
adrian_otto | so currently, all in attendance are in US timezones | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | we also have regular attendees from Europe, and continental Asia | 16:17 |
adrian_otto | (GMT+1 and IST respectively) | 16:18 |
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devkulkarni | my first thought is we should not change our current schedule even if we do not see participation often from others.. being on two schedule is more inviting than on a single schedule | 16:18 |
datsun180b | there's also the conflict with containers, now that i think about it | 16:19 |
ravips1 | I agree with dev on this one | 16:19 |
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adrian_otto | unless key active contributors are absent because of the alternation | 16:19 |
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roshanagr | for contributors from Europe and Asia, is 5 pm CST (3 pm PST) better than this time? | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | my favorite tool for visualizing timezone differences is: | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | #link http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ | 16:20 |
adrian_otto | it uses colors to show daytime and night time in the various selected zones | 16:20 |
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roshanagr | great tool Adrian | 16:21 |
roshanagr | looks like this time is MORE suitable for Europe and Asia | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | yes | 16:22 |
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roshanagr | so I am thinking we do away with the alternative schedule | 16:22 |
roshanagr | makes it easier for our active contributors | 16:22 |
devkulkarni | We could change our second meeting from 5.00pm CST to sometime earlier so | 16:22 |
adrian_otto | the 5PM US/Central time is at a really inconvenient time of day for them | 16:23 |
devkulkarni | that majority of the Solum team who is in Austin would be able to attend it | 16:23 |
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devkulkarni | but if everyone feels that we should just have one time I am fine with that too | 16:23 |
roshanagr | We should optimize for current active contributors | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | I'll bring this up in Paris | 16:24 |
roshanagr | and tweak it as new active contributors emerg | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | I'm putting it on the etherpad | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | datsun180b: thanks for asking this question. Let's also ask it on the ML. | 16:24 |
adrian_otto | I can take an action for that. | 16:24 |
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datsun180b | thank you, i'm shaky on starting ML discussions | 16:25 |
adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to ask on ML if current Solum contributors would like to explore adjusting our meeting schedule, or keeping it the same. | 16:25 |
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adrian_otto | note that the current time of day is really the only US business hours that anyone in India is awake for | 16:26 |
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adrian_otto | there is no overlap at all | 16:27 |
adrian_otto | ok, other topics to cover today? | 16:27 |
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adrian_otto | ok, thanks for attending everyone. Our next meeting is 2014-10-14 at UTC 2200. | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | regardless what the ML discussion suggests, we will keep that meeting time for at least the next instance of our meeting. | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | catch you next week | 16:28 |
roshanagr | thanks | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | and in #solum | 16:28 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:29 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 7 16:29:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:29 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-10-07-16.00.html | 16:29 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-10-07-16.00.txt | 16:29 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-10-07-16.00.log.html | 16:29 |
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ruhe | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 17:01:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruhe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:02 |
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ruhe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda#Agenda | 17:02 |
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sjmc7 | hi | 17:03 |
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ruhe | sjmc7: hi! | 17:03 |
dteselkin | Hi | 17:03 |
ruhe | StanLagun, katyafervent_awa: are you here? | 17:03 |
katyfervent2 | Hi | 17:03 |
ruhe | ok. we have a quorum | 17:04 |
StanLagun | o/ | 17:04 |
ruhe | #topic Status of juno release | 17:05 |
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ruhe | we have cut tag rc1, opened proposed/juno branch and opened master for kilo | 17:06 |
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sjmc7 | yay! | 17:06 |
ruhe | but recently zigo contacted us with a request to remove non-free software from murano-dashboard | 17:06 |
ruhe | the required patch is already merged to both master and proposed/juno | 17:07 |
sjmc7 | uh oh.. what software was it? | 17:07 |
ruhe | sjmc7: that's a binary file with fonts | 17:07 |
sjmc7 | how is it licensed? | 17:07 |
ruhe | sjmc7: i don't have detailes. i've just got back from vacation today :) | 17:08 |
sjmc7 | ok. only i may need to do something urgent in our release | 17:08 |
ruhe | sjmc7: this file cannot be included into Debian package | 17:08 |
sjmc7 | who has details? | 17:09 |
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ruhe | sjmc7: take a look at this commit https://github.com/stackforge/murano-dashboard/commit/e4408ffdb7cb39c7676b5c919e087cd6f2b1934c | 17:10 |
dteselkin | AFAIK it was NuGet.exe, which required to create build environment. StanLagun, correct me if I'm wrong | 17:10 |
StanLagun | dteselkin: not in dashboard :) | 17:10 |
ruhe | dteselkin: we're speaking about murano-dashboard and NuGet.exe was a part of murano-agent | 17:10 |
dteselkin | Oh ;) | 17:11 |
dteselkin | Sorry then :( | 17:11 |
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ruhe | sjmc7: is this file a problem for you? | 17:12 |
sjmc7 | i don't know, but i need to find out really really fast | 17:12 |
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ruhe | sjmc7: i'll send an email to Thomas (zigo) and CC with a question about this file | 17:13 |
ruhe | * CC you | 17:13 |
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ruhe | sjmc7: it seems like a GPL-related problem which doesn't allow inclusion of binary files without complementary source code package | 17:15 |
sjmc7 | ok :( | 17:16 |
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ruhe | any other questions about juno release? | 17:17 |
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ruhe | ok. let's move on | 17:18 |
katyfervent2 | do we have critical bugs left fot the release? | 17:18 |
ruhe | katyfervent2: i don't think so | 17:19 |
katyfervent2 | cool | 17:19 |
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ruhe | #topic only one week left to improve our developer docs | 17:20 |
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katyfervent2 | So should we concentrate on documentation? there are still some unresolved tasks from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-docs | 17:21 |
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ruhe | we have two options: 1. release RC2 right now to allow zigo to create Murano packages for Debian, 2. delay RC2 to add more developer docs | 17:21 |
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ruhe | i guess answer depends on time constraints for inclusion of our code into Debian | 17:22 |
katyfervent2 | + none of my patches related to the documentation were nerged while I was on vacation | 17:22 |
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katyfervent2 | *merged | 17:22 |
ruhe | katyfervent2: yes, we need to concentrate on developer documentation | 17:22 |
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ruhe | user docs can be improved after official release because repository murano-docs doesn't follow standard schedule | 17:23 |
katyfervent2 | ruhe: that's true. but developer docs require more time to improve | 17:24 |
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ruhe | katyfervent2: release date is October 16th. so, we have 10 days to improve developer docs | 17:25 |
ruhe | that's what we got | 17:25 |
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ruhe | #info there was no progress in terms of documentation recently. we have 10 days left to improve them | 17:26 |
ruhe | anything else to discuss in this topic? | 17:27 |
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ruhe | katyfervent2: ^^ | 17:27 |
katyfervent2 | ruhe:no, let's use all time that we have to update docs | 17:27 |
ruhe | #topic open discussion | 17:28 |
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ruhe | if there is nothing to discuss, i'll close the meeting in 2 minutes | 17:37 |
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katyfervent2 | Sure, good night! | 17:38 |
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ruhe | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-10-07-17.01.html | 17:41 |
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tchaypo | morninge | 18:59 |
jdob | o/ | 18:59 |
tchaypo | \o | 18:59 |
bnemec | o/ | 19:00 |
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jdob | tchaypo: that was an epic chat high five | 19:00 |
gfidente | \o | 19:00 |
lsmola_ | o/ | 19:00 |
ChuckC | o/ | 19:01 |
alexisli | o/ | 19:01 |
slagle | HI! | 19:01 |
Ng_ | .o/ | 19:01 |
shadower | hey | 19:02 |
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GheRivero | o/ | 19:02 |
SpamapS | o/ | 19:02 |
SpamapS | #startmeeting TripleO | 19:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 19:02:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
SpamapS | crap | 19:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 19:02 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:02 |
SpamapS | #endmeeting TripleO | 19:02 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 7 19:02:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-07-19.02.html | 19:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-07-19.02.txt | 19:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-07-19.02.log.html | 19:02 |
shadower | that was quick | 19:02 |
SpamapS | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 19:02:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:03 |
SpamapS | Didn't realize it would fix itself | 19:03 |
SpamapS | #topic agenda | 19:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:03 | |
tchaypo | All hail the new overlord! | 19:03 |
SpamapS | * bugs | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * reviews | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * Projects needing releases | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * CD Cloud status | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * CI | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * Tuskar | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * Specs | 19:04 |
SpamapS | * open discussion | 19:04 |
SpamapS | does anyone want to add anything to that? | 19:04 |
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SpamapS | #bugs | 19:05 |
SpamapS | #topic bugs | 19:05 |
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SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:06 |
SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:06 |
SpamapS | three criticals with no assignee in tripleo | 19:06 |
SpamapS | actually I'll take https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1374626 | 19:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1374626 in tripleo "UIDs of data-owning users might change between deployed images" [Critical,Triaged] | 19:06 |
SpamapS | Need people for https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1375641 | 19:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1375641 in ironic "Error contacting Ironic server for 'node.update'" [Critical,Fix released] | 19:07 |
SpamapS | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1263294 | 19:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1263294 in tripleo "ephemeral0 of /dev/sda1 triggers 'did not find entry for sda1 in /sys/block'" [Critical,In progress] | 19:07 |
tchaypo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1263294 has been critical since may | 19:08 |
tchaypo | with no progress, but it doesn't seem to be getting inour way | 19:08 |
bnemec | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1375641 is fixed, isn't it? | 19:08 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1375641 in ironic "Error contacting Ironic server for 'node.update'" [Critical,Fix released] | 19:08 |
tchaypo | Is it possible that it's not actually critical? | 19:08 |
slagle | i closed https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1373430, it was fixed in horizon | 19:09 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: how are we working around it? | 19:09 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1373430 in tripleo "Error while compressing files" [Critical,Fix released] | 19:09 |
SpamapS | oh right, we work around it by forcibly mounting ephemeral in o-r-c | 19:10 |
GheRivero | tchaypo: we have a workaround while waiting for the fix in cloud-init I will decrease its importance | 19:10 |
SpamapS | I think since it has a workaround, it is by definition 'High' not 'Critical' | 19:10 |
* SpamapS drops it | 19:10 | |
SpamapS | GheRivero: well one of us dropped it anyway. :) | 19:12 |
SpamapS | bnemec: indeed it is fixed in Ironic | 19:12 |
SpamapS | can we revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124994/ ? | 19:12 |
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SpamapS | err wait n/m | 19:13 |
SpamapS | misunderstood | 19:13 |
SpamapS | closed bug 1375641 .. it was indeed fixed in Ironic | 19:13 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1375641 in ironic "Error contacting Ironic server for 'node.update'" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375641 | 19:13 |
SpamapS | Ok that just puts the one critical on me. :) anybody want to bring up any specific bugs before we move on? | 19:14 |
SpamapS | BTW, great job triaging everybody! | 19:15 |
SpamapS | #topic reviews | 19:15 |
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SpamapS | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 19:16 |
SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:16 |
SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 19:16 |
SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 19:16 |
tchaypo | 9 people at 60 or higher on http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt right now | 19:16 |
tchaypo | Queue growth in the last 30 days: 0 (0.0/day) | 19:17 |
tchaypo | New changes in the last 30 days: 212 (7.1/day) | 19:17 |
tchaypo | Changes merged in the last 30 days: 199 (6.6/day) | 19:17 |
slagle | do we still feel like 3 reviews a work day is a reasonable commitment? | 19:17 |
SpamapS | way to go people. I am somewhat ashamed of my 1/day rate the last 90 days, but you will see that climb hopefully soon. | 19:17 |
tchaypo | to revert to the traditional statistic | 19:18 |
tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 19 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes | 19:18 |
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SpamapS | slagle: seems like it is right in the sweet spot really. | 19:18 |
tchaypo | Quoting monty's TC email - "OpenStack is optimized for high-throughput at the expense of individual | 19:18 |
tchaypo | patch latency. | 19:18 |
tchaypo | " | 19:18 |
SpamapS | We could drive wait time down more of course, but I see more patches waiting on submitter than reviewers.. so I think there's not much point in that. | 19:19 |
slagle | SpamapS: yea, i don't have a problem really with people not meeting it | 19:19 |
tchaypo | we seems to be fitting that pattern - individual patches take literal weeks to land, but we seem to be keeping up with what's coming in fairly well | 19:19 |
slagle | just more curious if maybe we ask too much, if lots of people are finding it hard to achieve | 19:20 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: there's also the dispair effect to consider.. as it takes longer to land them, less people even bother submitting. | 19:20 |
tchaypo | The only problem I have with the high throughput is the effect on new committeres | 19:20 |
slagle | but i don't really think there's anything actionable either way | 19:20 |
SpamapS | despair? :-P | 19:20 |
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Ng | dispair, datpear, it's all the same | 19:21 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: I've always felt that we should have a little priority mark on somebody's first 2 or 3 patches. | 19:21 |
tchaypo | SpamapS: yeah, good point. Probably especially bad for new committers if we turn them off after their first attempt to help us, but it's also bad if it means people just don't bother providing updates because it takes too much time or effort to get them through | 19:21 |
SpamapS | BUt we don't want to make them too special.. or they'll get a false sense of how things work. | 19:21 |
SpamapS | Anyway, I feel like reviews are working o-k right now and we have bigger fish to fry. | 19:22 |
SpamapS | next topic in 10.. 9... | 19:22 |
tchaypo | I wonder if the "Thanks for your first patch" message could be adapted to look up an irc channel and suggest they go hang out there | 19:22 |
alexisli | So this is the first meeting I remember where the queue hasn't grown. Go us :) | 19:22 |
tchaypo | I feel like we tend to do okay at pushing through urgent patches, but that's largely because if it's urgent people jump in IRC and hassle cores | 19:22 |
SpamapS | alexisli: one reason for that might be that OpenStack has stopped changing under us for the last 2 weeks.. ;) | 19:23 |
bnemec | Yeah, we also had relatively few CI issues this week because of that. | 19:23 |
tchaypo | Shall I follow up on the list with a suggestion that we start paying more attention to throughput than to latency? | 19:23 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: it would be good if the metrics included that | 19:24 |
SpamapS | would be a rather nice graph really | 19:24 |
tchaypo | or at least, paying equal attention to both, with an unresolved question about special welcome for new contributors | 19:24 |
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SpamapS | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:26 |
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SpamapS | I feel like we automated this, but I know that there is just at least one excellent human doing a good job of fooling me into thinking they're a robot here.. | 19:26 |
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jdob | i'll do it | 19:27 |
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SpamapS | jdob: ^5 | 19:27 |
SpamapS | #topic CI | 19:27 |
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tchaypo | SpamapS: actually it's relatively dispersed, there's probably 4 or so people who do it regularly | 19:28 |
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bnemec | I guess CI is quiet? :-) | 19:31 |
SpamapS | I don't believe it. :) | 19:31 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: HP region status? | 19:31 |
SpamapS | regions I should say | 19:31 |
tchaypo | I don't know, was on leave last week and public holiday monday | 19:33 |
tchaypo | I assume that means no progress on hp2 since last week... | 19:33 |
tchaypo | thanks to help from morganfainberg we have keystone working a bit better; so now it's clear that the bug preventing >4 nodes coming up lies elsewhere | 19:33 |
tchaypo | but I don't think it's the nova scheduler race either... | 19:34 |
morganfainberg | tchaypo, aww :( was hoping that'd be easy. | 19:34 |
tchaypo | I'll be grovelling in logs today | 19:34 |
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tchaypo | PS: our default log levels are useless for figuring out what's happening | 19:34 |
SpamapS | ok | 19:34 |
SpamapS | Sounds good | 19:34 |
SpamapS | #topic Tuskar | 19:35 |
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SpamapS | hellleewww? | 19:37 |
SpamapS | jdob: ? | 19:37 |
jdob | sorry, nothing major to report | 19:37 |
shadower | slackers | 19:37 |
jdob | its just that things are so perfect there's no need to waste time in the meeting reiterating that :) | 19:38 |
tzumainn | lol | 19:39 |
lsmola_ | hehe | 19:39 |
SpamapS | #topic Specs | 19:41 |
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SpamapS | It's _OCTOBER_ | 19:41 |
SpamapS | the summit is in _1 month_ | 19:41 |
SpamapS | I would like to impress upon everyone that the summit is where we resolve things we couldn't resolve via normal communication methods. | 19:41 |
SpamapS | We should have no surprises in what is brought up at the summit. We should already have been talking about these things in IRC, here at the meeting, and on openstack-dev. | 19:42 |
bnemec | Spoilers! | 19:42 |
gfidente | SpamapS, so one thing I wanted to ask actually is | 19:43 |
SpamapS | Submit your specs early if you like. Let us get to a point where we just get into the room to hash out details and resolve hard to communicate points at the summit. | 19:43 |
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SpamapS | bnemec: the image gets rebuilt in the end. | 19:43 |
gfidente | I read about ansible for cloud updates | 19:43 |
bnemec | Heh | 19:43 |
SpamapS | gfidente: yes I am working on a spec for an ansible-based TripleO cloud right now actually. :-D | 19:43 |
Ng | SpamapS: I kinda think the static UID/GID thing needs a spec and a "omg what?!" discussion at the summit ;) | 19:43 |
gfidente | oh yeah I wanted to ask who was going to discuss that, seems interesting | 19:44 |
Ng | (note, I'm not volunteering you to write a spec) | 19:44 |
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SpamapS | Ng: I hope we will have patches landed by then. | 19:44 |
SpamapS | But a spec might be in order nonetheless. | 19:44 |
SpamapS | 4 bullet points a spec make. | 19:45 |
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tchaypo | I think a spec is certainly in order. | 19:45 |
gfidente | so one more topic I wanted to bring up, just to ping people, not sure if this is right place to discuss | 19:45 |
Ng | I'd also like some fedora folk to weigh in on at least the mailing list thread about it, in case we ubuntunites are missing some crucial twist in the land of rouge headwear | 19:45 |
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tchaypo | I'd like to see details of how any defaults can be overridden, or oids could be pre-assigned by an operator | 19:46 |
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SpamapS | gfidente: if it is not about specs in general, we'll do open discussion next. :) | 19:47 |
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* bnemec will try to catch up on the uid discussion today | 19:48 | |
gfidente | SpamapS, yeah open discussion probably more appropriate | 19:48 |
SpamapS | #info Specs are forthcoming for UID+GID preservation and Ansible integration | 19:48 |
SpamapS | #topic Open Discussion | 19:49 |
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bnemec | QuintupleO update coming soon. | 19:49 |
slagle | i know there are some folks ramping up on tripleo-puppet-elements as well | 19:49 |
bnemec | I have a blog post in the works. | 19:50 |
slagle | but i'm unaware of the details | 19:50 |
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SpamapS | bnemec: nice | 19:54 |
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SpamapS | slagle: we may need to reach out and make sure they have time allotted here at the meeting if they want it. :) | 19:54 |
tchaypo | I believe that tripleo-puppet-elements is now somewhat under the tripleo umbrella | 19:55 |
SpamapS | Also I wouldn't mind having a quick Kolla update each time, even though they have their own meeting. | 19:55 |
SpamapS | Oh | 19:55 |
tchaypo | in the sense that we'll see reviews in the IRC room at least | 19:55 |
SpamapS | So the alt meeting time is _REALLY_ bad for me. | 19:55 |
tchaypo | does that mean that contributors to tripleo-puppet-elements get to vote in the next PTL election? | 19:55 |
SpamapS | Can we just agree to have a rotating meeting moderator for that time slot? | 19:55 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: it should. If it does not, we should change that. | 19:56 |
slagle | tchaypo: i think so, since it's under openstack/ now | 19:56 |
bnemec | I thought tchaypo and shadower were generally running the alt meetings. | 19:56 |
tchaypo | That's been happening in practice - I've been doing most of them until it switched to europe | 19:56 |
SpamapS | #action SpamapS to make sure tripleo-puppet-elements and kolla contributors get TripleO ATC status. | 19:56 |
tchaypo | by coincidence I haven't been available to run either meeting since then, so shadower and/or marios have run it | 19:56 |
shadower | mostly tchaypo but I'm happy to help out | 19:56 |
SpamapS | tchaypo: cool | 19:56 |
tchaypo | I'm happy to keep running with that' | 19:57 |
* shadower has actually ran it only once | 19:57 | |
shadower | but I'll do more if need be | 19:57 |
tchaypo | shadower: when DST changes for you guys, perhaps we can/should re-evaluate the time? | 19:57 |
SpamapS | ok just making sure that is handled. | 19:57 |
tchaypo | this meeting is now at 6am for me, which is manageable; the alternate meeting is now 7pm, which is getting into food time | 19:58 |
SpamapS | Regarding Ansible for updating cloud: stackforge/tripleo-ansible is there.. but it is pretty out of date as we've been forced to move forward downstream. We do intend to reverse flow and start merging patches in the stackforge repo first as soon as we actually use it for real things. | 19:58 |
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SpamapS | with 60s left, I think I will bid you all a broad "Thank you for your votes" and also thank you to slagle for providing everyone with a choice. | 19:59 |
SpamapS | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 7 20:00:10 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-07-19.02.html | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-07-19.02.txt | 20:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-10-07-19.02.log.html | 20:00 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 7 22:00:50 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers Our Agenda | 22:01 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:01 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
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iqbalmohomed | Iqbal Mohomed, IBM Research | 22:01 |
mtesauro | Matt Tesauro | 22:01 |
adrian_otto | hey guys | 22:02 |
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adrian_otto | something has just come up that requires me to leave the office for about 15 minutes. | 22:02 |
adrian_otto | Matt, would you be willing to lead the meeting today until I return? | 22:02 |
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mtesauro | I'm a bit of a spectator - just trying to keep track of where containers are with OpenStack. Not sure I know enought to be helpful | 22:03 |
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mtesauro | I an open to trying but want to set expecations correctly. | 22:03 |
iqbalmohomed | We can also start a bit later Adrian | 22:03 |
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adrian_otto | ok, so let's do this. Let's reschedule for 22:30 today | 22:03 |
iqbalmohomed | ok | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | I will leave the meeting open, and we will begin at that time. | 22:04 |
Slower | UTC? | 22:04 |
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mtesauro | OK with me. | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | yes, that's 3:30 PM US/Pacific | 22:04 |
* Slower likes pacific.. :) | 22:04 | |
Slower | sounds good | 22:04 |
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adrian_otto | and if you notice others join in the mean time, please let them know about the updated start time. | 22:04 |
Slower | ok | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | bbl | 22:04 |
Slower | how's magnum coming? I haven't looked at it in a week+ | 22:04 |
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nitin1_ | hello everyone, | 22:10 |
nitin1_ | adrian_otto: hi | 22:10 |
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mtesauro | FYI: The meeting got pushed back 30 minutes. | 22:13 |
mtesauro | will start at 22:30 UTC aka 3:30 PM pacific | 22:14 |
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nitin1_ | #openstack-containers | 22:18 |
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nitin1_ | mtesauro: Can you change the topic, it mentioned Roll call (Meeting topic: containers) | 22:19 |
mtesauro | Not sure if I know how to do that - adrian_otto generally runs the show | 22:20 |
mtesauro | I'm just waiting until 22:30 for the real meeting to start | 22:20 |
nitin1_ | ok | 22:21 |
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adrian_otto | let's proceed with our meeting | 22:32 |
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adrian_otto | I saw mtesauro, nitin1_, Slower, and iqbalmohomed | 22:33 |
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adrian_otto | you all ready to continue? | 22:33 |
mtesauro | I am still here and ready | 22:33 |
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nitin1_ | adrian_otto: yes | 22:35 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:35 |
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adrian_otto | 1) LP Project | 22:35 |
adrian_otto | #link https://launchpad.net/magnum Launchpad Project for Magnum | 22:36 |
adrian_otto | we will set up milestones and blueprints here. Tasks will be handled with bug tickets using the "wishlist" status | 22:36 |
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adrian_otto | so you are welcome to watch the bug queue if you want to follow that closely. | 22:37 |
adrian_otto | Any announcements from team members? | 22:37 |
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mtesauro | Not from me. | 22:38 |
adrian_otto | (we have enough developers now asking to contribute that it's worth the administrative overhead to organize work into milestones) | 22:38 |
nitin1_ | adrian_otto: right | 22:38 |
adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:38 |
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adrian_otto | adrian_otto to follow up about the Magnum project repo, and revise the config review as needed | 22:38 |
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adrian_otto | The config repo was split causing a compulsory -2 on our initial submission to open an openstack code repo. | 22:39 |
nitin1_ | is there any link for with the agenda of this meeting | 22:39 |
adrian_otto | so I resubmitted into the new project-config repo: | 22:39 |
adrian_otto | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114044/ | 22:39 |
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adrian_otto | nitin1_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers | 22:39 |
adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE | 22:39 |
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adrian_otto | next: | 22:40 |
adrian_otto | Summary of Gantt/Magnum discussion from 2014-10-01 1600 UTC | 22:40 |
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adrian_otto | we held a chat in #openstack-containers last wednesday. Let me share the transcript with you. | 22:40 |
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adrian_otto | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-10-01-16.01.html | 22:41 |
adrian_otto | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-10-01-16.01.log.html | 22:41 |
adrian_otto | high level overview is that we have alignment on the direction to take with Magnum and Gantt | 22:41 |
adrian_otto | there are no items of dispute | 22:41 |
adrian_otto | questions on this topic? | 22:41 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Containers Service (Magnum) API | 22:42 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/digambar15/magnum.git Source code from diga | 22:42 |
adrian_otto | diga has been iterating on this code a bit | 22:43 |
adrian_otto | this is the middle of the night in his timezone, so he extended his regrets. | 22:43 |
adrian_otto | My hope is to get this moved over to a project in Gerrit | 22:43 |
adrian_otto | so we can facilitate interactive review in the way we are accustomed to. | 22:44 |
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adrian_otto | that depends on merge of https://review.openstack.org/126725 | 22:44 |
adrian_otto | but if you have feedback in the mean time, you are welcome to share it in #openstack-containers | 22:45 |
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adrian_otto | you are also welcome to join the magnum-drivers group in Launchpad, and file blueprints | 22:45 |
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adrian_otto | any discussion on that? | 22:45 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:46 |
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nitin1_ | what about the nova docker driver | 22:46 |
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Iqbalmohomed | question .. I read a post by erw .. some issue in nova-docker? | 22:47 |
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adrian_otto | do you have a link to that thread? | 22:47 |
nitin1_ | seems erw is not here | 22:47 |
adrian_otto | I'm not aware of concerns about that code | 22:47 |
nitin1_ | ok | 22:47 |
Iqbalmohomed | an incompatibility from nova side .. any more info on that? | 22:48 |
adrian_otto | Slower, you still around? | 22:48 |
adrian_otto | Slower works/worked on that team and may know details | 22:48 |
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Iqbalmohomed | other question was about nested containers in privileged containers. Adrian u mentioned some patches last week. do u have any pointers? | 22:49 |
adrian_otto | sorry, I don't | 22:49 |
Iqbalmohomed | cool .np | 22:49 |
adrian_otto | but I am willing to take an action item to try and identify them. I have a meeting with the Docker team later this week when I can ask about that | 22:50 |
Slower | yeah sorry | 22:50 |
Iqbalmohomed | that would be most appreciated Adrian | 22:50 |
adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to attempt to identify Linux kernel patches that could enable use of nested containers in non-privileged mode | 22:50 |
Slower | Iqbalmohomed: I'm not sure which email you are referring to? | 22:50 |
Iqbalmohomed | it was a tweet on sept 30 | 22:51 |
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Slower | ah, I don't follow tweets so.. :) | 22:51 |
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Iqbalmohomed | from era .. I saw it and was puzzled myaelf | 22:51 |
Iqbalmohomed | :) | 22:51 |
adrian_otto | ok, let's wrap up for today. | 22:52 |
adrian_otto | Thanks everyone for your schedule flexibility today. | 22:52 |
Iqbalmohomed | thanks! | 22:52 |
adrian_otto | our next meeting is 2014-10-14 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 22:53 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:53 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 7 22:53:06 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-10-07-22.00.html | 22:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-10-07-22.00.txt | 22:53 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-10-07-22.00.log.html | 22:53 |
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