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rushil1 | Hi | 15:01 |
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bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 23 15:01:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
bswartz | hello all | 15:01 |
scottda | hey | 15:01 |
tbarron | hi | 15:01 |
jasonsb | hi | 15:01 |
vponomaryov | hello | 15:01 |
dustins_ | o/ | 15:02 |
csaba | hi | 15:02 |
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rushil1 | hi | 15:02 |
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xyang1 | hi | 15:02 |
bswartz | I didn't have a formal agenda but vponomaryov has fixed that | 15:02 |
lpabon | hi | 15:02 |
bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
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bswartz | one thing quick before we start the agenda | 15:03 |
bswartz | #topic design summit | 15:03 |
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bswartz | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ | 15:03 |
bswartz | the topics we agreed on last meeting have been posted, since I didn't get any new suggestions since last week | 15:03 |
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bswartz | it's still possible to change these, but only if someone has a really compelling idea | 15:03 |
bswartz | if you want to suggest a change start a ML thread ASAP | 15:04 |
bswartz | that's all I have on the design summit | 15:04 |
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bswartz | questions before we move on? | 15:04 |
csaba | bswartz: I sent a mall yesterday | 15:04 |
bswartz | csaba: oh yes | 15:04 |
bswartz | csaba: it wasn't clear to me that was a design summit session proposal | 15:05 |
bswartz | is that how you intended it? | 15:05 |
bswartz | or a topic for the manila team meetup? | 15:05 |
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bswartz | personally I felt it made sense for the team meetup | 15:06 |
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csaba | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/049001.html | 15:06 |
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csaba | Yes my idea was for the summit originally | 15:07 |
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bswartz | well let's discuss it here | 15:07 |
vponomaryov | csaba: I guess team meetup is enough for it | 15:07 |
bswartz | hopefully everyone has read the message or if not the link is there | 15:07 |
csaba | Ok thanks | 15:08 |
bswartz | the proposal seems pretty technical in nature\ | 15:08 |
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xyang1 | design summit usually has a broader audience. so code refactor fits better at the meetup | 15:08 |
bswartz | I think we can discuss it as a team during the meetup -- I don't imagine that there's much cross-project interest here | 15:08 |
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rushil1 | csaba: I believe that this can be discussed but doesn't need a design slot | 15:09 |
bswartz | okay I think there's agreement | 15:09 |
bswartz | we'll add this to the agenda for the meetup | 15:09 |
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bswartz | by next week I'll collect all the topics that aren't being covered in the design summit and we'll form an agenda for the meetup | 15:10 |
bswartz | this one will definitely be included | 15:10 |
bswartz | tbh I don't know how much time we'll have on Friday for the meetup | 15:10 |
bswartz | does anyone know? | 15:10 |
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vponomaryov | I don't | 15:10 |
xyang1 | I don't either | 15:11 |
bswartz | it appears to be a whole day Friday | 15:11 |
bswartz | from 9AM-5:20PM | 15:11 |
csaba | rushil1: OK thanks for clarification, sounds good | 15:11 |
bswartz | so 8 hours minus breaks and lunch | 15:11 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: there will be only one meetup? | 15:11 |
bswartz | you know I'm pretty fuzzy on the details | 15:12 |
bswartz | I actually don't see manila listed here explicity as a meetup topic | 15:12 |
bswartz | but I've been told we'll have space | 15:12 |
xyang1 | Cinder has 9-12:30 on Friday | 15:12 |
vponomaryov | so, I guess, it is some kind of flexible? | 15:12 |
xyang1 | that is posted | 15:12 |
bswartz | yeah | 15:13 |
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bswartz | regardless of how much time we'll have, we'll have too much to discuss | 15:13 |
bswartz | so I'll take a stab at prioritizing the list and we'll get as far though it as we can | 15:13 |
bswartz | expect that for next week | 15:13 |
bswartz | now back to our original agenda... | 15:14 |
bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:14 |
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vponomaryov | dev status: | 15:14 |
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vponomaryov | 1) Enhancement of share manager | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/enhance-share-manager | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | gerrit: | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/129843 | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/129844 | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | 2) Manila share-networks-list API filtering: | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/improve-share-network-list-filtering | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | gerrit, server: #link https://review.openstack.org/130147 | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | gerrit, cleint: #link https://review.openstack.org/129849 | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | status: work in progress | 15:15 |
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vponomaryov | 3) Manila snapshots list API | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/improve-snapshot-list-filtering | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | server: #link https://review.openstack.org/128740 | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | client: #link https://review.openstack.org/127622 | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | status: ready for review | 15:15 |
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vponomaryov | that's the main | 15:15 |
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bswartz | any question on the above? | 15:16 |
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bswartz | cool | 15:17 |
bswartz | #topic Kilo Network Changes | 15:17 |
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vponomaryov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila | 15:17 |
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vponomaryov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Kilo_Network_Changes | 15:18 |
bswartz | so this is a work in progress | 15:18 |
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vponomaryov | main idea - propose and make opinions on networking changes | 15:18 |
bswartz | As everyone (hopefully) knows, we've been thinking about how to make Manila usable in a wider variety of use cases | 15:18 |
bswartz | In particular, the feedback I've gotten from developers trying to write drivers is that it's very hard | 15:19 |
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bswartz | we can/should make some changes to simplify configurations which have no reason to be complex | 15:19 |
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vponomaryov | such as dependency on share-network | 15:20 |
vponomaryov | as share-server set up | 15:20 |
bswartz | I'm approaching this problem by first trying to enumerate all of the use cases that we want to serve so we can figure out which are/aren't served particularly well by the current design | 15:20 |
bswartz | then as we propose new designs, we can evaluate them against all of the use cases we want to address | 15:20 |
bswartz | hopefully it goes without saying that any change we make should be a non-disruptive as possible to existing users | 15:21 |
bswartz | but I'm willing to create a v2 API if we determine that backwards compatibility can't be maintained for some new feature that we really need | 15:21 |
bswartz | the main proposals I'm making now are: | 15:22 |
bswartz | 1) Cross-tenant share servers | 15:22 |
bswartz | 2) Cross-tenant share networks | 15:22 |
bswartz | later I'll also be proposing mechanisms to run without neutron because various use cases demand that | 15:23 |
bswartz | so this document is sort of a sneak peak at what I'll be proposing in Paris | 15:23 |
bswartz | I intentionally made it a wiki so anyone can contribute and so that the design is out in the public | 15:24 |
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bswartz | it's not really "done" though so don't judge it as such | 15:24 |
rushil1 | bswartz: We do plan to use the existing neutron setup for VLAN, VXLAN and GRE scenarios. Right? | 15:25 |
bswartz | rushil1: neutron support isn't going away | 15:25 |
bswartz | neutron is still the "preferred" network management layer | 15:25 |
bswartz | we just need to add alternatives | 15:25 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: I guess rushil meant extend neutron support for different types of segmentation | 15:26 |
bswartz | that's a good question | 15:26 |
bswartz | I think we can get around most of the complicated network segmentation issues using cross-tenant share servers/cross-tenant share networks | 15:26 |
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bswartz | to address the hardest case, where we still want tenant-specific networks and share servers, and VXLAN/GRE is used, manila will need to be able to create new networks and routers, and that will rely on neutron APIs | 15:28 |
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bswartz | honestly that use case isn't high on my list of priorities though | 15:28 |
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bswartz | given how many other more common use cases are not served well by the current design | 15:28 |
bswartz | so we don't need to discuss the whole thing here | 15:30 |
bswartz | like I said this will be more complete next week and we'll discuss in paris | 15:31 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: do we expect some "polling" on use cases? | 15:31 |
bswartz | polling how? | 15:31 |
bswartz | I think we have an intuition which are more common and which are less common | 15:31 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: somehow on basis of "do consider this to implement" | 15:31 |
bswartz | we can write down those intuitions in the document -- about how common we think each case is | 15:31 |
rushil1 | bswartz: I think apart from the border scenario of simple network plugin, all the other scenarios can be reused from neutron. | 15:32 |
bswartz | my intention is to address ALL of the ones written down unless there's something specific about a particular use case that makes it hard/impossible to implement and we intentionally punt on it | 15:32 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: implementation of some use cases can make code very difficult to support | 15:32 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: can you give the names? | 15:33 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: custom share-servers and mapping of it to manila entity | 15:33 |
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bswartz | which use case is that? | 15:33 |
bswartz | I'm just talking about the use cases at the top, not the design changes below | 15:34 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: "How will the share server get imported into Manila? Conf file options? A new admin API?" | 15:34 |
bswartz | okay don't worry about those for now | 15:34 |
bswartz | the design changes will be evaluated by considering how well they address the use cases, plus other considerations like how hard they are to implement/use | 15:34 |
bswartz | I was just referring to the list of use cases -- I hope we can address all of them | 15:35 |
vponomaryov | this is "use case" and it does not fit well our current networking approach | 15:35 |
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bswartz | well a number of the use cases demand the ability to take a server that exists outside manila and manage it with manila | 15:36 |
bswartz | we can stipulate all kinds of requirements and prerequisites in order for that to work so that the implementation is not super difficult | 15:37 |
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vponomaryov | current design assumes Manila will create share servers | 15:37 |
bswartz | I agree | 15:37 |
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bswartz | the proposed change is large, which is why we need to spend some time discussing it | 15:37 |
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bswartz | but I don't see a way to argue that it simply shouldn't be done | 15:37 |
bswartz | there are too many situations where it's unavoidable | 15:37 |
bswartz | for example consider glusterfs | 15:38 |
bswartz | glusterfs simply won't be creating share servers -- it uses what exists | 15:38 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: I mean, we can reconsider the approach itself | 15:38 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: but it will be much bigger change then extending existing one | 15:39 |
bswartz | which approach do you want to reconsider? what we currently do now? or something that I've suggested? | 15:39 |
vponomaryov | first one | 15:39 |
vponomaryov | existing | 15:39 |
bswartz | I haven't ruled out the possibility that we may need a whole different driver to support the "manage existing server" use case | 15:39 |
bswartz | ideally a single driver could do both kinds of cases, but I think it's more important to meet user needs than to make developer's lives easy | 15:40 |
bswartz | plus we can always refactor the implementation internally after we're happy with the external interfaces | 15:41 |
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bswartz | okay | 15:42 |
bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:42 |
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bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:42 |
bswartz | I've managed to put you all asleep... | 15:43 |
bswartz | we'll have this meeting next week as planned | 15:43 |
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bswartz | and obviously the following week is the summit so the IRC meeting is cancelled | 15:43 |
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bswartz | #action bswartz by next week present a prioritized agenda for the manila team meetup | 15:44 |
bswartz | we will discuss the meetup topics and priorities next week | 15:44 |
bswartz | csaba: I'll include your suggestion -- thanks | 15:44 |
bswartz | okay thanks all | 15:44 |
vponomaryov | thanks | 15:45 |
bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 23 15:45:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-10-23-15.01.html | 15:45 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-10-23-15.01.txt | 15:45 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-10-23-15.01.log.html | 15:45 |
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kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 23 16:00:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
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kozhukalov | hi everyone | 16:00 |
akislitsky | hi | 16:00 |
agordeev | hi | 16:00 |
kozhukalov | #chir kozhukalov | 16:00 |
christopheraedo | hello | 16:00 |
mihgen | hi | 16:00 |
kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:00 |
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kozhukalov | xarses: thanx | 16:02 |
kozhukalov | go ahead | 16:02 |
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mihgen | akasatkin - you might know something about it too? | 16:03 |
xarses | code needs review, last failures with bvt appear to be re-occuring issues with tests in general | 16:03 |
xarses | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99179 | 16:03 |
xarses | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99179 | 16:03 |
mihgen | anyone from QA on this feature? | 16:03 |
mihgen | xarses: re-occuring issues - what are those? | 16:04 |
nurla | yep, Tema & Yegor | 16:04 |
kozhukalov | ooops... quite big patch | 16:04 |
mihgen | nurla - artem_panchenko? | 16:04 |
akasatkin | I don't know what was changed this week | 16:04 |
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xarses | mihgen: there was a bug rmoe filed about deployment timeout exceeded, in that the primary controller finishes but astute thinks it failed because lock file still existed | 16:04 |
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nurla | mihgen: artem_panchenko ykotko | 16:05 |
mihgen | oh looks like just another bug with astute trying to understand whether puppet alive or not | 16:05 |
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xarses | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87400/ | 16:05 |
mihgen | so any news from artem_panchenko ykotko on this? | 16:06 |
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nurla | https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1384332 | 16:06 |
xarses | 87400 is the library changes for this | 16:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1384332 in fuel "CentOS fails due to deployment timeout" [High,Confirmed] | 16:06 |
nurla | this bug? | 16:06 |
xarses | nurla: correct | 16:06 |
fungi | kozhukalov: you'll want to re-startmeeting since the meetbot left and rejoined right after you originally started | 16:06 |
mihgen | thanks fungi | 16:06 |
kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:07 |
kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:07 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 23 16:07:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:07 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:07 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:07 |
kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:07 |
openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:07 |
kozhukalov | #topic multiple L2 nets (rmoe) | 16:07 |
mihgen | xarses: so what's up with library part? any major issues / blockers? | 16:07 |
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kozhukalov | topic is still the same | 16:07 |
mihgen | CI still shows -1 there | 16:07 |
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xarses | mihgen: it will because it requires the nailgun changes to work | 16:08 |
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mihgen | oh ok | 16:08 |
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mihgen | so what's the overall feeling how far it's from being completed? | 16:08 |
akasatkin | some feedback from the last demo is here : https://mirantis.jira.com/wiki/display/PRD/Multiple+L2+networks+support+in+CLI | 16:09 |
kozhukalov | fungi: thanx for your note about meetbot | 16:09 |
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xarses | mihgen: we should be able to have the bvt tests sorted in the next day or tow. So we are looking for reviewers so that we can merge as soon as possible | 16:09 |
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xarses | s/tow/two | 16:10 |
mihgen | xarses: ok thx | 16:10 |
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kozhukalov | #topic stats collection (akislitsky) | 16:10 |
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akislitsky | we have almost all backend changes in Nailgun for statistics. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130518/ on review and we need to add more tasks tracking. ISO with changes is built and QA team test it. Also QA guys work on load testing of statistics collector. We still have number of issues on the collector side: river for Elasticsearch is not works with migrating Postgresql json fields, so we are implementing own migrati | 16:11 |
akislitsky | on tool now. UI opt-in, opt-out pages are one review and UI for analytics reports are on the review too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130238/. Now we are testing whole dataflow of statistics and investigate possibility to use OpenStack API for collecting number of tenants and vms | 16:11 |
mihgen | akislitsky: sounds good | 16:13 |
mihgen | any news from devops part of the deal? | 16:13 |
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mihgen | basically a few things - stats collector deployment after each commit merge for QA/Dev purposes | 16:13 |
teran | mihgen: we almost done | 16:13 |
mihgen | official deployment | 16:14 |
teran | mihgen: we have VMs, manual setup and manifests is a go | 16:14 |
mihgen | and deployment public machine for community to see stats of Fuel usage | 16:14 |
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mihgen | teran: where can we look for manifests? | 16:14 |
teran | packages are under OSCI team and AFAIK they're working | 16:14 |
mihgen | what packages? | 16:15 |
teran | mihgen: when they'll be done in review.f-i.org | 16:15 |
teran | mihgen: for production deployment | 16:15 |
mihgen | teran: can I review those? | 16:15 |
mihgen | where they are now? | 16:15 |
teran | mihgen: I need to ask OSCI team first | 16:16 |
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mihgen | rvyalov: ^^^ ? | 16:17 |
nurla | from qa side: guys are creating env for tests and tuning ytank for it | 16:17 |
mihgen | how osci is related actually? | 16:17 |
mihgen | teran: do you need a repo for it or what | 16:18 |
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mihgen | nurla: that's good, thanks! | 16:18 |
teran | mihgen: nope, we have deb-repo where we're planning to store those packages | 16:18 |
akislitsky | we have ytank tests on review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130468/ | 16:19 |
teran | mihgen: from OSCI we need simply packages to be built | 16:19 |
mihgen | teran: simple question, where is the puppet deployment code | 16:19 |
mihgen | review | 16:19 |
mihgen | which I can go over and -1 ;) | 16:19 |
teran | mihgen: lol :) | 16:19 |
teran | mihgen: AlexanderC working on it | 16:20 |
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teran | mihgen: review will be created soon | 16:20 |
mihgen | monester_laptop: please share once it's done | 16:20 |
mihgen | let's move on | 16:20 |
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kozhukalov | yea | 16:20 |
kozhukalov | #topic gerrit for linux code at review.fuel-infra.org (rvyalov) | 16:20 |
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rvyalov | we deploy new gerrit instance. we moved all non openstack packages and openstack specs to new gerrit instance | 16:21 |
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mihgen | rvyalov: is there a link to see all the repos at once? | 16:21 |
rvyalov | mihgen review.fuel-infra.org | 16:22 |
rvyalov | please see Projects->lists | 16:22 |
teran | rvyalov: do we have moved all CI's and other building stuff there? | 16:22 |
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rvyalov | it is in progress | 16:23 |
teran | rvyalov: ETA? | 16:23 |
rvyalov | maybe 7.0 | 16:23 |
mihgen | :O | 16:24 |
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kozhukalov | cool | 16:24 |
mihgen | not optimistic | 16:24 |
mihgen | let's move it earlier | 16:24 |
kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:24 |
mihgen | let's discuss it later, yeah | 16:24 |
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kozhukalov | #topic image based provisioning (agordeev) | 16:25 |
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agordeev | hi | 16:25 |
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kozhukalov | agordeev: hi | 16:25 |
agordeev | at least image based provisioning itself works on both ubuntu and centOS systems. yay! | 16:25 |
agordeev | few patchsets to fuel-main are still required to be merged someway to build the iso featured IBP | 16:25 |
agordeev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103821/ | 16:25 |
agordeev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125421/ | 16:25 |
agordeev | and fuel-web | 16:26 |
agordeev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130284/ | 16:26 |
kozhukalov | afaik there are some mirror related issues | 16:26 |
agordeev | more detailed status: | 16:26 |
agordeev | centos seems to be very close to become completely operatable. QA reported that most of deploing/system tests passed. | 16:26 |
kozhukalov | agordeev: cool | 16:26 |
agordeev | so, expecting appearing a lot of bugs in forceeable future | 16:26 |
agordeev | ubuntu still needs more love. Few packages in mirror are still broken, cloud-init under question, need investigation and deeper dive. Hope to be finished before the next week ends | 16:26 |
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nurla | agordeev: * more love | 16:27 |
nurla | cool | 16:27 |
mihgen | agordeev: that's pretty good news | 16:27 |
mihgen | I hope we can give required love to ubuntu by end of next week | 16:27 |
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nurla | =) | 16:27 |
nurla | or it will be love us | 16:27 |
kozhukalov | agordeev: thanx, sounds good | 16:27 |
mihgen | nurla: and enable systests for it too | 16:28 |
mihgen | at least 1 test per OS | 16:28 |
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kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126909/ | 16:28 |
nurla | Andrey hes review alreeady for imp | 16:28 |
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nurla | kozhukalov: thx | 16:28 |
kozhukalov | this is PR for making it possible to launch system tests | 16:29 |
mihgen | kozhukalov: it's not exactly what I wanted | 16:29 |
mihgen | while we will be still running on cobbler everything | 16:29 |
mihgen | I just want to add a few tests to run image-based | 16:29 |
nurla | it'll be next step in testing | 16:29 |
mihgen | with your patch you will be able to run cobbler OR image-based, but not together | 16:29 |
mihgen | ok, I hope next step is coming sooner ;) | 16:30 |
nurla | mihgen: yes) | 16:30 |
kozhukalov | ok, moving on then? | 16:30 |
mihgen | yeah | 16:30 |
kozhukalov | #topic diff upgrade tarball (kozhukalov) | 16:30 |
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kozhukalov | make part is ready and locally tested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124734/ | 16:31 |
kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124734/ | 16:31 |
kozhukalov | I've built 5.1->6.0 tarball | 16:31 |
kozhukalov | and it turned out that ubuntu repo reduced 8 times | 16:32 |
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kozhukalov | while centos is twice as small as original one | 16:32 |
kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128323/ | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | this patch is ready to be merged | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | there are 3 +1 | 16:33 |
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mihgen | kozhukalov: anything else needed except these patches to be merged to complete the feature? | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | tomorrow planning to start testing actual upgrade | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | spec is still needs to be reviewed | 16:34 |
kozhukalov | sorry, did not have enough time | 16:34 |
kozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121591/ | 16:34 |
kozhukalov | I think that is it | 16:34 |
kozhukalov | ah, forget | 16:35 |
kozhukalov | of course we need DevOps cooperation for making jenkins jobs | 16:35 |
kozhukalov | for building diff upgrade tarballs | 16:35 |
mihgen | who is working from devops side on this? | 16:36 |
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kozhukalov | still noone | 16:36 |
kozhukalov | will ask them tomorrow | 16:36 |
mihgen | teran: will you assign someone? we need it sooner than later | 16:36 |
kozhukalov | the reason is that make part was made yesterday night | 16:36 |
rvyalov | mihgen: SergeyK is working on it © teran | 16:36 |
mihgen | ok | 16:37 |
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kozhukalov | ok, moving on | 16:37 |
kozhukalov | #topic move fuel development docs to fuel-docs update (aedo) | 16:37 |
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mihgen | christopheraedo: ^^^ | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | I am in the final stages of moving the Fuel development documentation from fuel-web repo into fuel-docs repo. | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | This blueprint has the associated commit proposals | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-dev-docs-merge-fuel-docs | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | Right now the Fuel CI server is failing commit proposal 125234 because the dependencies for building Fuel documentation have changed. The devops team will need to adjust the fuel-docs build environment to accomodate this. | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | All necessary dependencies are installed by running the script prep_doc_build_env.sh included in | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124551/ | 16:38 |
christopheraedo | At this point, probably need most attention from devops side to get fuel-docs passing CI again, but other reviewers of the proposed commits would not hurt either | 16:38 |
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mihgen | bookwar_: teran can you help with that thing? ^^^ | 16:39 |
teran | mihgen: sure, we can | 16:39 |
mihgen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125234/ | 16:40 |
mihgen | this one should be fixed? | 16:40 |
christopheraedo | Yes - that's the one | 16:40 |
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christopheraedo | Issue is that to build docs now, it clones fuel-web in order to do autodoc API documentation | 16:40 |
christopheraedo | so fuel-docs environment needs the same dependencies that used to be required to build docs under fuel-web/docs (i.e. nailgun stuff) | 16:41 |
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mihgen | teran: will you help or someone from your team? | 16:42 |
bookwar_ | christopheraedo: let's continue this discussion in fuel-dev and fix the deps then | 16:42 |
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christopheraedo | bookwar_: sounds good | 16:42 |
mihgen | christopheraedo: thanks for working on this, looking forward to see it merged | 16:42 |
kozhukalov | ok, moving on then? | 16:43 |
christopheraedo | me too! | 16:43 |
kozhukalov | #topic building openstack from master (brain461) | 16:43 |
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brain461 | Hello everyone | 16:43 |
brain461 | Entire feature is on its final stages. RPM part - already merged. | 16:43 |
brain461 | Updated feature spec for 6.0 is on review - you're welcome to provide input | 16:43 |
brain461 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121116/ | 16:43 |
brain461 | OpenStack deb building make system part is on development stage - corrections were proposed by kozhukalov. | 16:43 |
brain461 | I hope to finish preparing it for review tomorrow. | 16:43 |
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brain461 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129314/ | 16:43 |
brain461 | Note: we could start attempting to build community ISO when deb building part is ready | 16:43 |
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mihgen | thanks brain461 | 16:44 |
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mihgen | bookwar_: do you think we can start creating jenkins job which can build ISO with vanilla openstack? | 16:45 |
mihgen | even centos for now to start would be fine | 16:45 |
bookwar_ | mihgen: no problems with that, we need to discuss a bit more where to put it | 16:46 |
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teran | mihgen: you mean vanilla master openstack, right? | 16:46 |
mihgen | bookwar_: ok, let's do it | 16:46 |
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mihgen | teran: we probably should start with stable/juno | 16:47 |
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mihgen | brain461: rvyalov: or we can go ahead with master? | 16:47 |
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brain461 | we could try, but I'm not sure if will work out of the box, some corrections to specs could be required | 16:47 |
mihgen | brain461: ok, let's go step by step and start with stable/juno then | 16:48 |
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xarses | we probably should start with stable/juno since that may be a target for many people, and then later also run master | 16:49 |
kozhukalov | ok, looks like we have nothing more in agenda to discuss | 16:49 |
kozhukalov | #topic Free discussion | 16:49 |
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mihgen | just a reminder where we are in the development cycle | 16:50 |
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mihgen | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/6.0_Release_Schedule | 16:50 |
mihgen | we are one week before feature freeze | 16:50 |
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mihgen | so let's hurry up with feature-merging, but keep attention to bugs too - we can't allow our BVTs to be broken for more than couple of days | 16:50 |
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xarses | mihgen: how can we merge features if bvt's are broken at all? | 16:51 |
mihgen | we've fixed bvt today, so next 6.0 build shoud be green | 16:51 |
mihgen | xarses: not at all. teran - can you start sooner our public nightly builds? | 16:51 |
mihgen | so we can see green sooner unless we broke again by merging neutron upstream manifests | 16:52 |
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mihgen | which I'm happy actually to see merged! thanks both xarses and xenolog for hard work on those patches for almost 2 months if not more.. | 16:52 |
xarses | speaking of neutron, wasn't it reverted or was it merged again? | 16:52 |
teran | mihgen: yeah, we'll try. AFAIK we have building packages during the build already merged | 16:53 |
mihgen | xarses: reverted first to make BVTs green first, then merged once BVTs passed as green | 16:53 |
mihgen | bogdando: can you confirm it's fully merged? | 16:53 |
xarses | ok | 16:53 |
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xarses | yep, looks merged | 16:54 |
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mihgen | :) | 16:55 |
kozhukalov | cool, ending? | 16:55 |
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mihgen | yeah - thanks folks! see you next week | 16:55 |
kozhukalov | thanx everyone | 16:55 |
kozhukalov | great meeting | 16:55 |
kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 23 16:55:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-10-23-16.07.html | 16:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-10-23-16.07.txt | 16:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-10-23-16.07.log.html | 16:56 |
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hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 23 17:00:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:00 |
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hyakuhei | roll call peeps! | 17:01 |
rlpple | Afternoon/Morning/Evneing all | 17:01 |
bknudson | hi | 17:01 |
tmcpeak | HOLA | 17:01 |
shohel02 | hi | 17:01 |
sicarie | o/ | 17:01 |
sweston | Hi!! | 17:01 |
tkelsey | hello | 17:01 |
elmiko | hi, i'm mainly listening but i have a question for open discussion time =) | 17:01 |
sarnold007 | hello all | 17:01 |
nkinder | hi all | 17:01 |
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chair6 | 'ello | 17:01 |
hyakuhei | Hey, so, the summit is less than two weeks away! | 17:01 |
hyakuhei | What should we discuss today? | 17:02 |
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tmcpeak | well I'm sure we'll get OSSN status | 17:02 |
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tmcpeak | book? | 17:03 |
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nkinder | yeah, OSSNs will be pretty quick | 17:03 |
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hyakuhei | ok lets start there | 17:03 |
hyakuhei | #topic ossn | 17:03 |
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nkinder | So a number of issues were cleared out last week and published. | 17:04 |
nkinder | So there's just one in progress that's out for review (OSSN-0038) | 17:04 |
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nkinder | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128636/3 | 17:04 |
tkelsey | thats mine i think, input welcome :) | 17:04 |
hyakuhei | Thanks tkelsey | 17:05 |
hyakuhei | I think there still a few in the queue | 17:05 |
tkelsey | your welcome hyakuhei | 17:05 |
nkinder | there are a handful free for others to pick up - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/ | 17:05 |
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nkinder | Doug has one thar he picked up, but there's not a patch proposed yet - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1163569 | 17:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1163569 in ossn "security groups don't work with vip and ovs plugin" [High,In progress] | 17:06 |
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tkelsey | yeah, im supposed to be helping with that one, not had much time yet | 17:07 |
hyakuhei | Yeah that one was tricky iirc | 17:07 |
hyakuhei | We could discuss options for that now? | 17:07 |
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nkinder | Sure. So what's the tricky part of that one? | 17:07 |
tmcpeak | first of all it's hard to test I think | 17:08 |
tkelsey | I think there is some missing or confusing info, is Doug about, he woulf know more | 17:08 |
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hyakuhei | I'll ping him on skype see if he can join us | 17:08 |
tmcpeak | it seems to need a lot of setup and domain knowledge | 17:09 |
tkelsey | yeah tmcpeak | 17:09 |
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hyakuhei | Pinged dg, no reply, assume he's not joining | 17:10 |
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tkelsey | shame, his input would have been good. I guess I'll try and look at it tomorrow | 17:10 |
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hyakuhei | Yeah, so I think it's as tmcpeak said, if you don't work with it much this is confusing | 17:11 |
tkelsey | sure | 17:11 |
nkinder | ok, so perhaps tapping a developer from the area would be best here | 17:11 |
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tmcpeak | +1 | 17:11 |
hyakuhei | Know any friendly ones ? :P | 17:11 |
tkelsey | +1 | 17:11 |
nkinder | probably worth just having Doug join the neutron weekly meeting to bring it up | 17:12 |
nkinder | or reach out to the current PTL | 17:12 |
hyakuhei | Depending on what timezone they run that in, sure. | 17:12 |
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hyakuhei | Ok, I'll chat with dg about it tomorrow :) | 17:13 |
sweston | I can bring it up to Kyle | 17:13 |
nkinder | sweston: thanks! | 17:13 |
hyakuhei | Yeah, that'll be really helpful | 17:14 |
nkinder | I don't think there's much more on OSSNs | 17:14 |
sweston | nkinder: sure, if you still want to ping Doug, feel free to bring me in ... I'll be here all day!! | 17:14 |
nkinder | ...aside from mentioning that we're almost up to 40 notes now! | 17:14 |
bdpayne_ | :-) | 17:14 |
tkelsey | good work all :) | 17:14 |
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nkinder | It's come a long way | 17:14 |
hyakuhei | +1 | 17:14 |
tmcpeak | yeah, we've more than doubled in a few months | 17:15 |
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nkinder | and there are lots of authors now too | 17:15 |
sweston | Who hoo ... on that "note", I'll take https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossn/+bug/1329214 | 17:16 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1329214 in cinder "tgtadm iscsi chap does not work" [Critical,Fix released] | 17:16 |
tkelsey | nice sweston | 17:16 |
sweston | unless somebody else wants it :-) | 17:16 |
nkinder | sweston: great! Any help you need, just ask. | 17:17 |
hyakuhei | I think it's all yours :P | 17:17 |
sweston | hehe, sure .. I'll ask for help if I need to, thanks!! | 17:17 |
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tkelsey | sweston: you get bonus points for the pun :-P | 17:18 |
hyakuhei | ok, any other OSSN stuff? | 17:18 |
sweston | tkelsey: :-D | 17:18 |
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nkinder | Nope. That's it. | 17:19 |
hyakuhei | ok, next up on the agenda, elmiko - what did you want to discuss? | 17:19 |
elmiko | well, i'm chairing a session for Sahara on security | 17:19 |
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elmiko | i have a few topics prepared, but i wanted to reach out and see if anyone might be able to help me find topics that we might be missing currently | 17:20 |
hyakuhei | Coolio, how can we help | 17:20 |
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hyakuhei | I'm not very familiar with Sahara today - anyone got anything to contribute? | 17:20 |
elmiko | we have a few areas that we improved during juno, but i'm curious how much more can we find | 17:20 |
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tmcpeak | elmiko: do you have a list? | 17:20 |
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elmiko | tmcpeak: so far, we will talk about a new security group feature, and the new domain proxy feature. i'm still assembling more topics | 17:21 |
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nkinder | elmiko: I know we discussed some things about keystone trusts quite a while back | 17:21 |
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elmiko | what i'm really curious about are more general threats that a sahara user/operator should be aware of | 17:21 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: ok, are you looking for features, hardening your existing code, both? | 17:21 |
elmiko | nkinder: yes! and it helped us implement a new feature based around that | 17:21 |
elmiko | tmcpeak: both ideally | 17:22 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: maybe an email to the security mailinglist would be useful too? | 17:22 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: awesome idea, is that the openstack-dev list with an [ossg] on it? | 17:22 |
nkinder | elmiko: ok, so I wonder if starting with a security audit page for sahara would be a good start too. | 17:22 |
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bdpayne_ | elmiko openstack-security mailing list | 17:23 |
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tmcpeak | nkinder: +1 | 17:23 |
elmiko | nkinder: that would be great | 17:23 |
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hyakuhei | http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-security | 17:23 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: ^ | 17:23 |
nkinder | elmiko: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Juno | 17:23 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: tnx | 17:23 |
hyakuhei | Although -dev with [ossg] _should_ work | 17:23 |
nkinder | I suppose it's time I create a Kilo page | 17:24 |
hyakuhei | Oooh! | 17:24 |
elmiko | nkinder: is there anything i can do to help get the audit under way? | 17:24 |
hyakuhei | Audit's are _really_ time intensive | 17:25 |
nkinder | elmiko: yeah, let me create a placeholder page after the meeting and you can look at the existing one for Keystone to get an idea of the info to collect. | 17:25 |
elmiko | nkinder: awesome | 17:25 |
nkinder | hyakuhei: not bad if you have experience with the project/code though | 17:25 |
hyakuhei | best bet right now is to find one or two devs who are interested and setup a meet in Paris to lay the groundwork | 17:25 |
bknudson | I think we should have discussions on -dev rather than the security list | 17:25 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: i'm willing to put some time in on it, if it's something that i can tackle | 17:25 |
hyakuhei | nkinder: +1 going in cold is the worst | 17:25 |
hyakuhei | elmiko: It's so much easier with someone who knows the code | 17:26 |
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nkinder | #action nkinder to create kilo 'security info' page and a sahara template | 17:26 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: for sure, and i'm interested in being part of the process | 17:26 |
shohel02 | And if we want more extensive, we can go some high level Threat analysis on Shara | 17:26 |
elmiko | shohel02: i think that's something that would be useful for the devs and our end-users | 17:27 |
elmiko | on a more general level, i am looking to gain an insight into the type of issues we should be looking for as an openstack project | 17:27 |
elmiko | these are the types of things i'd like to talk about at summit with our devs | 17:27 |
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hyakuhei | heh, that's a long list | 17:28 |
elmiko | i'll bet ;) | 17:28 |
hyakuhei | Something we can help with though :) | 17:28 |
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tkelsey | +1 elmiko hyakuhei | 17:28 |
rlpple | Sorry cant help too much today need to leave for 'nother meeting | 17:28 |
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elmiko | i'm trying to avoid covering topics that might be better addresses in other areas, for example should we talk about general networking configurations that might be out of scope for sahara? | 17:28 |
nkinder | elmiko: you'll be at the Summit then? | 17:28 |
elmiko | nkinder: yes | 17:29 |
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elmiko | for those who haven't explored sahara, we are providing a data processing solution for openstack | 17:29 |
elmiko | so we are building clusters with hadoop, spark, and the like | 17:29 |
hyakuhei | oh hai dg__ | 17:29 |
tkelsey | interesting stuff elmiko | 17:30 |
elmiko | talking about security within our clusters is one thing, but talking about threats to the stack i feel is a bigger issue | 17:30 |
dg__ | hyakuei hi, think i need to kill my outlook calendar | 17:30 |
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elmiko | for example, should we be worried about an attacker being able to infiltrate a project and thus gain access to the cluster and swift instances, or is that a more general openstack security concern? | 17:30 |
hyakuhei | There's a point where attack vectors become shared | 17:31 |
hyakuhei | but that can be influenced in many ways | 17:31 |
hyakuhei | We need a whiteboard and pretty pictures ;) | 17:31 |
elmiko | yea, i'm really trying to be that with regards to the topics we should discuss | 17:31 |
elmiko | *to be sensitive to that | 17:32 |
hyakuhei | Makes sense | 17:32 |
elmiko | but it sounds like we've generated some good topics. we can certainly talk about getting ready for an audit, and the possibility of doing higher level threat analysis | 17:32 |
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hyakuhei | I'd love to do some threat analysis on Sahara | 17:33 |
elmiko | i might have missed it, was there a link to page about audits? | 17:34 |
elmiko | hyakuhei: cool! | 17:34 |
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tmcpeak | hyakuhei: yeah, threat analysis sounds good | 17:35 |
shohel02 | security audit... this one https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Juno | 17:35 |
shohel02 | nikander posted earlier | 17:35 |
elmiko | shohel02: ahh, thanks. got that one, thought i missed one | 17:36 |
nkinder | elmiko: here's a skeleton - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Kilo/Sahara | 17:36 |
elmiko | nkinder: awesome, thanks | 17:36 |
nkinder | elmiko: look at the Juno keystone one for an idea. I'll create the Kilo one for Keystone today | 17:36 |
elmiko | cool | 17:36 |
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elmiko | thanks everybody, this is great. i'll have a few more issues we should be talking about within Sahara, and expect me to haunt the OOSG sessions looking to talk more =) | 17:37 |
elmiko | *OSSG | 17:37 |
tmcpeak | elmiko: sounds good | 17:37 |
hyakuhei | cool, any other agenda items? | 17:38 |
tkelsey | elmiko: good stuff. | 17:38 |
tkelsey | so i have some SecImpact numbers | 17:38 |
bdpayne_ | I'd like to talk about a couple of things | 17:38 |
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bdpayne_ | tkelsey is welcome to go first :-) | 17:38 |
tkelsey | ok, thanks bdpayne_ | 17:38 |
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tkelsey | so I ran a hacky script against gerrit looking for SecImpact changes, I have some numbers | 17:39 |
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tkelsey | I'll put them into a pastbin I guess | 17:39 |
hyakuhei | #topic Security Impact | 17:39 |
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tkelsey | http://pastebin.com/TuDfph6U | 17:40 |
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tkelsey | the main take away is that 29 changes got merged that had SecImpact but no OSSG input | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | So what's good/bad mean? | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | but 25 did have input ? | 17:41 |
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tkelsey | yes | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | That's better than I thought tbh | 17:41 |
tkelsey | bad == no OSSG, or -1 from OSSG | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | Can you do stats on who contributed from OSSG | 17:41 |
tkelsey | good = +1 or 0 from OSSG | 17:41 |
tkelsey | yes i can get names | 17:41 |
hyakuhei | hmm, so I think -1 from OSSG is still 'good' in this context? | 17:41 |
nkinder | tkelsey: I'm interested in knowing is OSSG looked at it at all | 17:42 |
nkinder | ...regardless of score | 17:42 |
bdpayne_ | yeah | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | OSSG looked at something - yay | 17:42 |
tkelsey | sure, ok :-) not hard to change things for that metric | 17:42 |
bdpayne_ | this is great to have the data... and something that we should track regularly | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | even so, takeaway from this is we're likely responding to over 50% of requests | 17:42 |
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bdpayne_ | perhaps each month or each quarter | 17:42 |
hyakuhei | Yup | 17:42 |
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hyakuhei | Thanks for this tkelsey | 17:42 |
bdpayne_ | indeed, thanks | 17:42 |
nkinder | +1 | 17:42 |
tkelsey | bdpayne_: sure, I can handle doing this at intervals | 17:42 |
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bdpayne_ | tkelsey if you can provide the raw numbers, I could figure out a nice visualization to track this over time | 17:43 |
bdpayne_ | just ping me to remind me that I said this ;-) | 17:43 |
tkelsey | sure thing bdpayne_ | 17:43 |
tkelsey | haha no problem | 17:44 |
hyakuhei | Something Stacklytics-esk? | 17:44 |
bdpayne_ | yeah | 17:44 |
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tkelsey | that would be very nice | 17:44 |
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hyakuhei | Great stuff, thanks Tim! | 17:44 |
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tkelsey | well thats all I had, just wanted to put the data out there. I'll clean things up and give bdpayne_ the info | 17:45 |
hyakuhei | Right bdpayne_ you had something you wanted to discuss ? | 17:45 |
tkelsey | hyakuhei: thanks | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | yeah | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | a couple of things | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | but I can be briefish | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | 1) Elections! | 17:45 |
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hyakuhei | #topic Elections | 17:45 |
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bdpayne_ | We have an election going on this week | 17:45 |
e-vad | woo! | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | Polls will close on Monday morning (pacific time) | 17:45 |
hyakuhei | Scary stuff. | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | currently 41/91 people have voted | 17:45 |
bdpayne_ | would love to see more votes | 17:46 |
chair6 | vote early, vote often! | 17:46 |
hyakuhei | +1 | 17:46 |
bdpayne_ | so please go ahead and vote if you haven't already | 17:46 |
hyakuhei | That's a pretty decent sized electorate | 17:46 |
bdpayne_ | also... just a placeholder here, but I think post-election we should have a discussion about electorate qualification going forward | 17:46 |
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bdpayne_ | but, regardless, we have 91 people in the electorate and 41 that have voted already | 17:47 |
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bdpayne_ | so that's a reasonable sized group | 17:47 |
bdpayne_ | OSSG is growing | 17:47 |
bdpayne_ | and by that I mean that active community | 17:47 |
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bdpayne_ | nice work everyone :-) | 17:47 |
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bdpayne_ | any questions on the elections? | 17:47 |
tmcpeak | wooohoo | 17:47 |
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hyakuhei | It's always good to review these things | 17:48 |
bdpayne_ | ok, let's move on to my next topic | 17:48 |
bdpayne_ | 2) OSSG track at the summit | 17:48 |
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hyakuhei | #topic OSSG track | 17:48 |
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bdpayne_ | we have talked about setting up a space for OSSG people to chat at the summit | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | Tuesday was looking good for that, not 100% sure ? | 17:48 |
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bdpayne_ | I would like to see us pick a day or 1/2 day to have a semi-formal track | 17:48 |
bdpayne_ | at least, planned topics in time slots | 17:48 |
tkelsey | bdpayne_: +1 | 17:48 |
bdpayne_ | do we have an etherpad to track topics? | 17:48 |
hyakuhei | We _did_ | 17:49 |
bdpayne_ | hrm | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | but I confess I didn't make a note of it. | 17:49 |
bdpayne_ | anyone know the link? | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | I'll circulate an email with it after the meeting, once I've updated the mnutes | 17:49 |
hyakuhei | *minutes | 17:49 |
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bdpayne_ | ok, sounds good | 17:49 |
bdpayne_ | I'd like to have a book discussion in one of the slots | 17:49 |
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bdpayne_ | and I will probably have some other ideas too :-) | 17:50 |
bdpayne_ | ok, I think that's all I have for today | 17:50 |
sweston | bdpayne_: +1 for books | 17:50 |
hyakuhei | #topic any other business | 17:50 |
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hyakuhei | Thanks bdpayne_ | 17:50 |
e-vad | re: other topics | 17:51 |
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e-vad | have we talked about mentorship for folks wanting to jump in to ossg stuffs but unsure where to start? | 17:51 |
tmcpeak | e-vad: the channel is a good place to find help | 17:51 |
bdpayne_ | we have talked a bit about this in the past, but it would be good to do more here | 17:51 |
tmcpeak | normally at least somebody is around to point you in the right direction | 17:52 |
bdpayne_ | but people need to know to go into the channel | 17:52 |
tmcpeak | ahh, solid point | 17:52 |
bdpayne_ | we need a super nice easy intro doc | 17:52 |
hyakuhei | Yeah, there's occasionally people reaching out on the ML too | 17:52 |
bdpayne_ | and that needs to be easy to find | 17:52 |
e-vad | some of that could be as easy as update our wiki page some | 17:52 |
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bdpayne_ | perhaps an email sent to people that join the launchpad group | 17:52 |
bdpayne_ | and an updated wiki page, yeah | 17:52 |
hyakuhei | both good points | 17:53 |
shohel02 | and probably with some example .. .e.g., start with filing bugs in book, or writing OSSN | 17:53 |
bdpayne_ | so there is a wiki with this goal in mind | 17:53 |
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bdpayne_ | but it could use some updating | 17:53 |
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hyakuhei | We do have some 'how to contribute' text already that bdpayne_ wrote iirc | 17:54 |
bdpayne_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/How_To_Contribute | 17:54 |
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bdpayne_ | and some intro text on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security | 17:54 |
bdpayne_ | those are good places to improve | 17:54 |
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e-vad | yup | 17:55 |
e-vad | the docbook bits could use a link out to one of anne gentle's preso's on working with docbooks and contributing to openstack docs | 17:55 |
e-vad | it's not the most straightforward thing to do | 17:56 |
e-vad | i guess then, i'll volunteer to take a look over said wiki and see what can be poked | 17:56 |
bdpayne_ | cool, thanks | 17:56 |
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e-vad | as part of the ossg track at the summit we should do a thing as well | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | bdpayne_:Etherpad for the summit | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-summit | 17:57 |
bdpayne_ | ahh | 17:57 |
bdpayne_ | thanks | 17:57 |
hyakuhei | Np. | 17:57 |
e-vad | help folks get signed up, involved, maybe dissect an ossn | 17:57 |
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hyakuhei | Its definitely time we looked at that stuff again, made the ossg a bit more welcoming | 17:59 |
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elmiko | fwiw, my experiences with OSSG have been really positive so far. kudos to you all | 17:59 |
e-vad | +1 | 17:59 |
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hyakuhei | Thats a great note to wrap on guys! | 18:00 |
tkelsey | thanks elmiko :-) | 18:00 |
hyakuhei | Thank you all! | 18:00 |
hyakuhei | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 23 18:00:10 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
tkelsey | good meeting all | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-10-23-17.00.html | 18:00 |
hyakuhei | Sorry, out of time. | 18:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-10-23-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
tmcpeak | see ya | 18:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-10-23-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
sweston | thanks!! | 18:00 |
nkinder | thanks! | 18:00 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 23 18:01:17 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:01 |
crobertsrh | hello/ | 18:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | sahara folks, ping | 18:01 |
tosky | hi | 18:01 |
elmiko | o/ | 18:01 |
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sreshetnyak | hello | 18:01 |
alazarev | o/ | 18:01 |
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aignatov | o/ | 18:02 |
NikitaKonovalov_ | o/ | 18:02 |
dmitryme | o/ | 18:02 |
SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:03 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:03 |
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SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov, please | 18:03 |
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crobertsrh | It seems like the sahara-dashboard tests have been hosed down a bit this week | 18:03 |
crobertsrh | I need to circle back and see their state | 18:04 |
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crobertsrh | There are a few fixes up for review on the horizon side, hopefully on their way to approval | 18:04 |
SergeyLukjanov | yeah, horizon folks has been shocked :) | 18:04 |
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SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, great | 18:04 |
NikitaKonovalov_ | There is only one bug fix from me on the review, and it's a minor one | 18:04 |
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SergeyLukjanov | I hope to stabilize our ui tests and enable them for horizon | 18:04 |
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crobertsrh | I'm going to start an etherpad for the UI talk that NikitaKonovalov and I will be leading @ summit. | 18:04 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, great! | 18:05 |
NikitaKonovalov_ | crobertsrh: please share it, I've got some thoughts to add there | 18:05 |
crobertsrh | will do | 18:05 |
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crobertsrh | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-sahara-ui-discussion | 18:06 |
crobertsrh | No content yet :) | 18:06 |
NikitaKonovalov_ | As for now, I'm going to add a few changes so that our panels wokr correctly in multi-region OpenStack | 18:06 |
SergeyLukjanov | cool, work started :) | 18:06 |
NikitaKonovalov_ | the API can handle that already | 18:07 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:07 |
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SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 18:07 |
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SergeyLukjanov | I've been mostly occupied by the release and internal things last week | 18:08 |
dmitryme | I’ve spent some time discussing kilo features and roadmap with folks | 18:08 |
tmckay | I've been poking at test errors. crobertsrh, I think we're done with the fake CR, correct? | 18:08 |
elmiko | i've been working on 3 areas, 1. researching API working group and improvements that we might make towards an api-ref, 2. digging into bug#1306505, which i have questions about, and 3. gathering topics for the security discussion at summit. | 18:09 |
crobertsrh | tmckay, yes | 18:09 |
SergeyLukjanov | we've already have several internal sessions to prepare to the design summit | 18:09 |
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elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-summit-sahara-security-session | 18:09 |
SergeyLukjanov | #1306505 | 18:09 |
crobertsrh | There was some interest in the channel today from a guy looking to create a SUSE image to use with Sahara. Sounds like they don't plan on using DIB, but using their own tooling instead. | 18:09 |
elmiko | if anyone has thoughts about the security discussion ^^ | 18:09 |
alazarev | I've created proposals for indirect VM access and auth policies | 18:10 |
sreshetnyak | I'm working on Spark and Hue support for Cloudera plugin | 18:10 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, yeah, I've just read the logs | 18:10 |
tmckay | also, I just finally tracked down why we have an intermittent unit test error in sahara related to os_region_name. It's because the recent mapr tests set os_region_name = None explicitly. Breaks the __getattr__ in oslo, and if that test runs in the same worker as swift_config tests or test_url_for regions and runs first they will fail | 18:10 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, sounds like dib should suport suse eventually | 18:10 |
crobertsrh | Yeah, if there is demand for it, for sure | 18:10 |
tmckay | I'll add a bug and fix it | 18:11 |
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SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, oh... gold star achieved! | 18:11 |
tmckay | :) hurray! | 18:11 |
alazarev | elmiko, added auth policies to the list | 18:11 |
alazarev | elmiko, I mean into etherpad | 18:11 |
SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, alazarev, yeah, policy.json is a good topic to talk about | 18:12 |
elmiko | alazarev: +1 thanks | 18:12 |
alazarev | My https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130385/ covers only possibility to add policy | 18:12 |
aignatov | Minimum settings to register image? | 18:12 |
elmiko | aignatov: i've had it reject my account on image register | 18:12 |
alazarev | have no idea about right content | 18:12 |
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tmckay | I want to start looking at swift configs for spark, maybe try some things before Summit so we can talk about how to support it | 18:13 |
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tmckay | the trick is getting the swift auth stuff into the hadoop context for Spark, might have to be through a base class or something | 18:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, sounds nice | 18:14 |
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tmckay | oozie does this for us, by the way (excecpt for Java jobs. similar problem, but at least oozie distributes a config file to read) | 18:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | okay, let's move on to the design summit discussion | 18:14 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic Design Summit @ Paris | 18:15 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-sahara-summit-topics | 18:15 |
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SergeyLukjanov | so, I've used the feedback for etherpad and prev. experiense of our design summits | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | and I'm proposing the following sessions on sumit itself | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | EDP discussions (new features, plans, direction review) | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | UX discussion | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | Production, long living, large Sahara clusters | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | Sahara HA, production use cases | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | Sahara's OpenStack integration and Security | 18:16 |
SergeyLukjanov | we already have chairs for them | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh and NikitaKonovalov for UI stuff | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | tmckay for EDP | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | aignatov and dmitryme for #3 and #4 (prod ofr both Sahara and it's clusters) | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | SergeyLukjanov for OpenStack integration | 18:17 |
SergeyLukjanov | and elmiko for security | 18:18 |
tmckay | +2, great plan | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | so, please, share you thoughts | 18:18 |
tmckay | let's go with it :) | 18:18 |
elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: we have those 5 and then a 1/2 day meetup as well? | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | if there is no objections - I'll push the preliminary plan to the http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org | 18:18 |
tmckay | elmiko, plus the parties. Don't forget the parties. | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, yup | 18:18 |
SergeyLukjanov | and plus pod for the whole summit | 18:19 |
tmckay | we can do a lot of work there | 18:19 |
elmiko | is dancing considered work? | 18:19 |
aignatov | +2 for the plan above | 18:19 |
SergeyLukjanov | so, we'll need a list of topics for 1/2 day meetup too | 18:19 |
elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: +1 to the plan | 18:19 |
tmckay | if you design something while you're doing it, yes | 18:19 |
elmiko | lol | 18:19 |
SergeyLukjanov | dancing design approach | 18:19 |
elmiko | and can remember it the next day... ;) | 18:19 |
aignatov | also I think it would be great to have a miniplan for 1/2 meetaup | 18:19 |
SergeyLukjanov | like TDD but DDD | 18:19 |
tmckay | better blood flow, better ideas | 18:19 |
elmiko | lol @ DDD | 18:20 |
tmckay | aignatov, +1 good iead | 18:20 |
elmiko | aignatov: +1 | 18:20 |
tmckay | idea even | 18:20 |
SergeyLukjanov | aignatov, yeah, we need to have list of topics for it | 18:20 |
mattf | 1/2 day should include talks from peer projects | 18:20 |
aignatov | not a plan actually but a list of hot topics don’t to forget | 18:20 |
SergeyLukjanov | aignatov, and it'll be great to have some schedule to make other folks able to attend interested topics | 18:20 |
SergeyLukjanov | mattf, all projects will have their own meetups at this time, so, I'm not sure that it'll be easy to organize peers from other projects | 18:21 |
mattf | that's too bad | 18:21 |
SergeyLukjanov | additionally, I'd like to ask someone w/ native english to help me writing good description for design summit sessions | 18:22 |
mattf | having them all at once means they're not a good opportunity for project collab | 18:22 |
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mattf | instead we can do a tech readout to the community | 18:22 |
SergeyLukjanov | mattf, yeah, but we'll be in one big room with some other projects (I think Heat for ex.), so, we'll be able to collaborate | 18:22 |
elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: i can help with descriptions | 18:23 |
crobertsrh | I can help | 18:23 |
SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, thanks! | 18:23 |
crobertsrh | darn, you're too fast elmiko :) | 18:23 |
elmiko | i can help get crobertsrh setup to help =) | 18:23 |
tmckay | jinx, someone buy someone a soda | 18:23 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, thx too, I'll ping both of you :) | 18:23 |
crobertsrh | heh | 18:23 |
SergeyLukjanov | the Paris summit venue will be much smaller than Atlanta ones | 18:24 |
elmiko | yea, more eyes are definitely better | 18:24 |
SergeyLukjanov | that's why we have not so many sessions | 18:24 |
SergeyLukjanov | probably the Vankuver venue will be significantly bigger | 18:24 |
mattf | the schedule and topics proposed in the pad look good | 18:25 |
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SergeyLukjanov | mattf, great | 18:25 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #agreed design summit sessions: EDP, UX, OpenStack integration + Security, Prod Sahara, Prod Sahara clusters | 18:26 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:27 |
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mattf | team outing in paris? | 18:27 |
crobertsrh | +1 | 18:27 |
elmiko | +1 | 18:27 |
tmckay | +1 | 18:28 |
crobertsrh | Heh....nobody else wants to hang out with us | 18:28 |
elmiko | =( | 18:28 |
tmckay | museum? Eiffel Tower? | 18:28 |
mattf | yeah, wow | 18:28 |
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SergeyLukjanov | oh | 18:28 |
SergeyLukjanov | +1 | 18:28 |
SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:28 |
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crobertsrh | billiards lounge tmckay? | 18:29 |
mattf | egad! | 18:29 |
dmitryme | +! | 18:29 |
aignatov | +1 | 18:29 |
NikitaKonovalov_ | +1 | 18:29 |
mattf | which evening is open? | 18:29 |
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SergeyLukjanov | mattf, we'll know about it only next week, not all invites sent | 18:29 |
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elmiko | mattf: thursday has no official parties | 18:29 |
tmckay | billiards, I'll have to practice | 18:30 |
mattf | tmckay, ha! | 18:30 |
SergeyLukjanov | folks, when you're arriving/departing? | 18:30 |
crobertsrh | In Sunday morning @ 8:00; Out: Saturday morning early | 18:30 |
mattf | i fly out fri afternoon (attending a wedding on sat am) | 18:30 |
tmckay | 11am Nov 1, 2pm (?) Nov 8 | 18:30 |
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elmiko | arrive nov2, leave nov8 | 18:30 |
elmiko | mattf: oooph | 18:31 |
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mattf | i'm gonna be tired | 18:31 |
tmckay | Oops, arrive Nov 2 | 18:31 |
dmitryme | me, aignatov and ruhe arriving at midday Nov 2 and leaving at morning Nov 9 | 18:31 |
mattf | let's tentatively assume thur 6th for a team event | 18:31 |
aignatov | dmitryme: not midday, evening | 18:32 |
dmitryme | mattf: still, I am not sure 6th will be avialable for me | 18:32 |
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mattf | dmitryme, hmmm | 18:32 |
mattf | 17th, nice | 18:32 |
aignatov | I’m not sure as well for 6th | 18:33 |
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tmckay | I was thinking of taking a train to London Friday night, then back for the plane on Sat :) Probably not. | 18:33 |
SergeyLukjanov | in fact, for Mirantis folks, there is some internal event at 6th evening, I'm not sure what is it | 18:33 |
SergeyLukjanov | will see on summit :) | 18:34 |
mattf | ahh | 18:34 |
mattf | ok, let's see when the full schedule gets posted | 18:34 |
SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, for Russians, we need to obtain a diffrent VISA to go to London | 18:34 |
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elmiko | i have a couple questions about, https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1306505 | 18:35 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1306505 in sahara "EDP does not accept Swift container as collection of job binaries" [Medium,Triaged] | 18:35 |
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aignatov | SergeyLukjanov: really? I didn’t know about that | 18:35 |
tmckay | elmiko, what questions? | 18:35 |
elmiko | how should we handle sub-containers(e.g. pseudo-directories) and what about fliename globbing? | 18:35 |
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elmiko | tmckay: you had a suggestion about the globbing in the comments | 18:36 |
tmckay | elmiko, I would use the swift client download as a guide | 18:36 |
tmckay | I believe it splits on / and makes dirs out of them | 18:36 |
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aignatov | Also I hope I will have a time to visit this event http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2015/matches/round=2000548/match=2014357/prematch/player-lists/index.html | 18:36 |
aignatov | :) | 18:36 |
tmckay | hmm, I forget what I wrote :) | 18:36 |
* tmckay reads | 18:36 | |
elmiko | aignatov: lol, nice! | 18:36 |
SergeyLukjanov | aignatov, ask Sergey Brook :) | 18:37 |
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elmiko | tmckay: my main question is, if you pass the head of a container (e.g. swift://bin/), and it contains a subdir, how should we handle the subdir? | 18:38 |
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elmiko | like, if you have a container named "bin" with entries "foo.jar" and "bar/baz.jar", i'm thinking we should skip the subdir | 18:38 |
SergeyLukjanov | oh, I have one more thing to discuss, we need to have a documentation liaison | 18:39 |
SergeyLukjanov | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation | 18:39 |
elmiko | but i'm not sure what the proper thing to do is | 18:39 |
tmckay | off the cuff, I would expect "bin" to be uploaded to hdfs, with subdirs defined by / | 18:39 |
SergeyLukjanov | anybody want to volunteer? | 18:39 |
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crobertsrh | I can give it a go | 18:39 |
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tmckay | doh, beat me | 18:39 |
tmckay | we can have 2 :) ? | 18:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | we need to have one | 18:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | that'll be responsible for it | 18:40 |
tmckay | k, crobertsrh | 18:40 |
* crobertsrh is very responsible...sometimes | 18:40 | |
SergeyLukjanov | the man who I could ask and Doc team could ask too | 18:40 |
SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:40 |
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SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, thx, I'm going to write your name to the wiki page | 18:40 |
crobertsrh | Great | 18:40 |
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SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, will you be able to attend meetings? | 18:40 |
crobertsrh | Yep | 18:41 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, awesome! | 18:41 |
SergeyLukjanov | thx | 18:41 |
crobertsrh | Looks like it's a good time for me | 18:41 |
SergeyLukjanov | in fact we need to have a liaison for qa too | 18:41 |
SergeyLukjanov | but it's a bit unclear who should do it :) | 18:42 |
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SergeyLukjanov | mattf, lol :) | 18:42 |
elmiko | i didn't wanna say it, but since mattf did ;) | 18:42 |
tmckay | +1, tosky tosky | 18:43 |
aignatov | SergeyLukjanov: just write his name :) | 18:43 |
SergeyLukjanov | I'll figure out the details and than we could return to this q. | 18:43 |
SergeyLukjanov | aignatov, I have his name in my list :) | 18:43 |
elmiko | aignatov: lol | 18:43 |
tmckay | he didn't speak up, so he must be happy with it | 18:44 |
aignatov | tmckay: lol | 18:44 |
tosky | ehm | 18:44 |
tmckay | oh, hi :) | 18:44 |
tosky | is it a matter of... attending meetings and checking logs? | 18:44 |
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SergeyLukjanov | tosky, sounds like this... and helping doing everything related to sahara | 18:45 |
SergeyLukjanov | so, the liaisons idea is to help in cross-projects coordination, especially for horizontal projects | 18:45 |
tosky | ok, is there a list of duties/page to subscribe/etc? | 18:47 |
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SergeyLukjanov | tosky, not yet, all info is on the wiki page | 18:47 |
SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, I've added you to the https://launchpad.net/~sahara-bugs you now have an ability to triage and target bugs | 18:48 |
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elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: awesome! thanks | 18:48 |
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SergeyLukjanov | and to https://launchpad.net/~sahara-coresec this group is used to contact sahara folks about OSSG stuff | 18:49 |
elmiko | cool | 18:49 |
tosky | SergeyLukjanov: oh, the same as documentation, I see | 18:49 |
SergeyLukjanov | tosky, yup | 18:50 |
tosky | SergeyLukjanov: but I'm not a core reviewer | 18:50 |
SergeyLukjanov | I'm not sure that it's an issue | 18:50 |
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SergeyLukjanov | it's more relevant for the huge projects | 18:50 |
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tosky | SergeyLukjanov: if you think it's not a problem, I can add my name; is there a way to check? | 18:52 |
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SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I'll talk with qa guys about it | 18:52 |
SergeyLukjanov | I think we'll talk about it on summit too | 18:52 |
tosky | oki | 18:52 |
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SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I'm keeping you in mind for this job :) | 18:53 |
tosky | oki :) | 18:54 |
SergeyLukjanov | 5 mins left | 18:54 |
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crobertsrh | just enough time to #endmeeting? :) | 18:56 |
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SergeyLukjanov | yeah ^) | 18:57 |
mattf | +1 | 18:57 |
SergeyLukjanov | so, sounds like there is no more topics to talk about | 18:57 |
SergeyLukjanov | thank you all folks! | 18:57 |
SergeyLukjanov | 2 mins to have an extra coffee | 18:57 |
SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 23 18:57:42 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-23-18.01.html | 18:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-23-18.01.txt | 18:57 |
mattf | ciao | 18:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-10-23-18.01.log.html | 18:57 |
tmckay | see you folks | 18:57 |
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elmiko | later | 18:57 |
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amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 23 19:00:12 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
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amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 19:00 |
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amitgandhinz | o/ | 19:00 |
obulpathi | o/ | 19:00 |
tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:00 |
megan_w_ | here | 19:00 |
ametts | \o/ | 19:00 |
catherine | o/ | 19:00 |
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amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:01 |
malini | o/ | 19:01 |
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amitgandhinz | #topic Last Week Today with Amit Gandhi | 19:01 |
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megan_w_ | nice | 19:01 |
amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/__poppy/2014/__poppy.2014-10-16-18.59.html | 19:01 |
amitgandhinz | so only one action item for megan_w_ | 19:02 |
amitgandhinz | gauge vendor participation for paris | 19:02 |
megan_w_ | i propose we change to an action item for amitgandhinz as the ptl | 19:02 |
amitgandhinz | lol | 19:02 |
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amitgandhinz | i did ping mike_hn to see his plans, he hadnt decided yet - chaotic schedule currently | 19:02 |
megan_w_ | but amitgandhinz and i did chat about determining the session agendas here today and then sharing those with vendors and other we want to join sessions | 19:03 |
malini | maybe amitgandhinz can let us know after the summit | 19:03 |
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amitgandhinz | yeh lets define the agenda and then email it out the vendors | 19:03 |
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megan_w_ | good plan | 19:03 |
megan_w_ | so, that action item will be done today | 19:03 |
ametts | Technically you only have one 40-minute session, correct? | 19:03 |
amitgandhinz | thats correct | 19:04 |
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megan_w_ | brown bag? | 19:04 |
megan_w_ | does that not fit into "technically"? | 19:04 |
ametts | That's a quick one-way presentation. | 19:04 |
amitgandhinz | ok lets get throught the bugs and bp and then we can spend the rest of the time on the summit topics | 19:04 |
megan_w_ | k | 19:04 |
amitgandhinz | brownbag is 15 min | 19:04 |
amitgandhinz | has time for Q&A but not much really | 19:04 |
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amitgandhinz | #topic Blueprint updates | 19:05 |
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amitgandhinz | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy | 19:05 |
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amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz: cloud-dns-driver - im going to change this to slow progress | 19:05 |
amitgandhinz | in fact someone else may need to pick it up so will take my name off it | 19:05 |
obulpathi | I picked it up | 19:06 |
obulpathi | I swa that it was not assigned it anyone one on JIRA | 19:06 |
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amitgandhinz | ok assigned to you on launchpad | 19:06 |
obulpathi | cool, thanks :) | 19:06 |
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amitgandhinz | miqui: add-docstrings? | 19:07 |
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amitgandhinz | is that complete yet, or are there sections still requiring it? | 19:07 |
miqui | hi guys... | 19:07 |
miqui | sorry am late.. | 19:07 |
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amitgandhinz | np | 19:07 |
miqui | time flys... | 19:07 |
amitgandhinz | glad you could make it miqui | 19:07 |
miqui | amitgandhinz: is not done... | 19:07 |
amitgandhinz | ok thanks | 19:07 |
amitgandhinz | ill mark it as slow progres | 19:07 |
miqui | now that i have finally format that passed...then will propagate that via another patch.. | 19:08 |
amitgandhinz | awesome =) | 19:08 |
amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: delete-service | 19:08 |
tonytan4ever | This one is merged. | 19:08 |
tonytan4ever | so I think its status should be done ? | 19:08 |
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amitgandhinz | done | 19:09 |
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amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: purge-content | 19:09 |
tonytan4ever | This one is under review now. | 19:09 |
amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz: dns-driver | 19:09 |
tonytan4ever | So it is in "Review Needed" status | 19:09 |
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amitgandhinz | ill leave this open per the prev comment | 19:10 |
amitgandhinz | and reassigned it to obulpathi | 19:10 |
obulpathi | cool, I got it | 19:10 |
amitgandhinz | obulpathi: patch-service | 19:10 |
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obulpathi | its almost done, was waiting for dependent patches to go through | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | ok | 19:11 |
obulpathi | now I have all the required patched patches | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | cool | 19:11 |
obulpathi | will submit the patch today | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | malini: gate-cassandra | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | well i think this was going to be reassigned right? | 19:11 |
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malini | No progress | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | i;ll remove you | 19:11 |
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malini | thanks amitgandhinz | 19:11 |
amitgandhinz | miqui: home-doc | 19:12 |
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miqui | have not started.. | 19:12 |
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amitgandhinz | ok | 19:12 |
amitgandhinz | ok thats it for bp's | 19:12 |
tonytan4ever | Also amitgandhinz: you can open a new BP, 'set-referrer-restrictions', and assign it to me | 19:12 |
amitgandhinz | moving onto bugs | 19:12 |
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amitgandhinz | ah set-restrictions is there | 19:13 |
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amitgandhinz | i'll assign to you | 19:13 |
tonytan4ever | cool | 19:13 |
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obulpathi | also I am working on the ttls | 19:13 |
obulpathi | can you please assign it to me | 19:13 |
obulpathi | may be i need to create a bp for this one? | 19:13 |
amitgandhinz | do we have the ttl story there? | 19:13 |
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amitgandhinz | yeh, can u issue the bp please | 19:14 |
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obulpathi | sure, thanks :) | 19:14 |
amitgandhinz | ok anything else i missed | 19:14 |
amitgandhinz | ok moving on then | 19:15 |
amitgandhinz | #topic bugs | 19:15 |
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amitgandhinz | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy | 19:15 |
amitgandhinz | most of the flavor bugs have a patch submitted now | 19:15 |
amitgandhinz | so lets get them merged so these can be cleared out | 19:15 |
malini | yayy! | 19:15 |
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amitgandhinz | lets just review the undecided items here | 19:16 |
amitgandhinz | DELETE brings down cassandra | 19:16 |
amitgandhinz | eeek | 19:16 |
malini | tht is fixed | 19:16 |
malini | CYMBALS | 19:16 |
tonytan4ever | Er... | 19:16 |
miqui | ...hmmmwow.. | 19:16 |
amitgandhinz | you want to elaborate? | 19:16 |
malini | tonytan4ever: ? | 19:17 |
amitgandhinz | was it just deletes or something else causing cassandra to fall | 19:17 |
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tonytan4ever | I don't know about that, but before DELETE-service patchset was merged, | 19:17 |
tonytan4ever | cassandra-driver don't reuse session, | 19:18 |
malini | cpowell mentioned tht we had a lot of FDs open before tonytan4ever 's patch | 19:18 |
tonytan4ever | which could potentially crash cassandra cluster. | 19:18 |
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amitgandhinz | so the changes in the delete-service patch fixed this? | 19:18 |
tonytan4ever | I believe so. | 19:18 |
amitgandhinz | awesome | 19:18 |
amitgandhinz | lets keep an eye on this | 19:18 |
tonytan4ever | absolutely. | 19:19 |
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amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1384271 | 19:19 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1384271 in poppy "List Services - NON ASCII limit causes poppy to return 500" [Undecided,New] | 19:19 |
malini | this one is kinda weird..I thought this was fixed . But I can repro it with the API tests | 19:19 |
obulpathi | I will take a look at it | 19:20 |
malini | obulpathi: this is the test https://github.com/stackforge/poppy/blob/master/tests/api/services/test_services.py#L178 | 19:20 |
malini | I will add it to the bug | 19:20 |
amitgandhinz | ok everything else has been evaluated | 19:20 |
amitgandhinz | so any thing else to talk about on bugs before we move on | 19:20 |
malini | yes..there is one | 19:21 |
malini | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1382155 | 19:21 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382155 in poppy "/health endpoint returns wrong status when cassandra is offline" [Medium,New] | 19:21 |
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malini | well it has been evaluated | 19:21 |
malini | Sorry | 19:22 |
malini | we can move on | 19:22 |
amitgandhinz | apology accepted =) | 19:22 |
malini | thanks amitgandhinz :D | 19:22 |
amitgandhinz | ok now for the fun stuff =) | 19:22 |
amitgandhinz | #topic Kilo Design Summit Agenda | 19:22 |
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amitgandhinz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/poppy-design-session-paris | 19:23 |
amitgandhinz | so lets use this etherpad to brainstorm what we should focus on during the design session | 19:23 |
amitgandhinz | it will be a 40 min session | 19:23 |
amitgandhinz | at 2pm Tuesday | 19:23 |
amitgandhinz | followed by a 15 min brownbag session at 345p | 19:23 |
malini | Do you think we shud use that as a design session? | 19:23 |
malini | It kinda makes sense for established projects | 19:24 |
amitgandhinz | the brown bag session will be just an overview of Poppy | 19:24 |
amitgandhinz | similar to the talk i gave in the Atlanta Meetup last week | 19:24 |
amitgandhinz | The design session, im thinking to focus on a quick overview of Poppy, current features being worked on | 19:24 |
amitgandhinz | and then spend the rest of the time talking about what the next set of priorities should be | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | Obvious ideas are Swift integration | 19:25 |
megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: is the agenda going to be posted somehwere? | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | I will invite some of the Swift devs to the design session | 19:25 |
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amitgandhinz | yes it will | 19:25 |
malini | shud we also discuss our current architecture etc. in case anybody has concerns with any modules we are using? | 19:25 |
amitgandhinz | and during the session this will be a working doc | 19:25 |
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amitgandhinz | this etherpad is already linked in the wiki here... | 19:25 |
megan_w_ | ah ok. i was going to propose we have a agenda for if vendors show up vs not | 19:26 |
miqui | good idea malini | 19:26 |
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amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Poppy/Talks | 19:26 |
amitgandhinz | malini: we could | 19:27 |
amitgandhinz | maybe i can go through the arch in the intro | 19:27 |
amitgandhinz | lets move to the etherpad ... | 19:27 |
amitgandhinz | and please add your name in the box so we know your colors =P | 19:27 |
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tonytan4ever | can anybody give me the etherpad link ? | 19:28 |
obulpathi | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/poppy-design-session-paris | 19:28 |
tonytan4ever | thanks | 19:28 |
obulpathi | :) | 19:28 |
amitgandhinz | who is bookwar? | 19:28 |
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bookwar_ | amitgandhinz: here | 19:31 |
amitgandhinz | hi bookwar_, i saw your nick in the etherpad, was curious who you were | 19:32 |
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bookwar_ | amitgandhinz: i've just went to check what is this project about, nothing serious :) | 19:33 |
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amitgandhinz | ah nice, more than welcome to hang out and help | 19:33 |
amitgandhinz | always looking for new contribs | 19:33 |
amitgandhinz | =) | 19:33 |
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megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: let's talk about an overall goal. if you could come out of the design session with one thing, what would it be? | 19:35 |
megan_w_ | more contributors? | 19:35 |
megan_w_ | more blueprints? | 19:35 |
amitgandhinz | more contributors (but i think that is a side effect of publicity rather than something we can get out of a design session explicity | 19:35 |
amitgandhinz | i think an understanding of what the community thinks is most valuable would be really good feedback | 19:36 |
megan_w_ | agreed, but if we are lucky enough to get people there, let's set them up to be contributors | 19:36 |
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amitgandhinz | and an impression of if cdn is in high demand and we should be looking towards incubation | 19:36 |
megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: are the "core" vs "ecosystem" lines drawn clearly enough to talk about? | 19:37 |
amitgandhinz | not yet | 19:37 |
amitgandhinz | i think they will talk about that during the summit | 19:37 |
malini | It'll be cool to get validation from folks who really work with CDN (a.k.a vendors?) | 19:37 |
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malini | we shud probably not worry abt being in core or ecosystem at this point | 19:38 |
megan_w_ | i tend to agree. but i don't want to waste time talking about incubation until that's figured out | 19:38 |
amitgandhinz | yeh, im just worried about vendors not showing up | 19:39 |
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malini | Do we even need to talk abt incubation now? we shud focus on building the right thing and reputation in the community before incubation | 19:39 |
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megan_w_ | amitgandhinz brought it up, not me :) | 19:40 |
malini | its always his fault :-P | 19:40 |
megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: do you want to nail these down to 4-6 topics? | 19:40 |
amitgandhinz | so my guess is that after the intro and current design, we will have about 20-30 min left on forward looking topics | 19:40 |
miqui | i would... | 19:40 |
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miqui | its only 40 min no? | 19:40 |
amitgandhinz | ya | 19:40 |
megan_w_ | yeah | 19:41 |
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malini | Depending on who is present, amitgandhinz might want to spend more/less time on certain topics | 19:41 |
megan_w_ | shall we vote somehow or talk it out? my highest priorities would be swift, analyics, and ssl | 19:41 |
amitgandhinz | lets vote on what we think is highest | 19:41 |
megan_w_ | analytics is kind of a nice, value add, fun problem to solve | 19:42 |
amitgandhinz | everyone put a +1 next to the most important | 19:42 |
amitgandhinz | megan_w_: agreed, but i wonder how we can generalize log analysis | 19:42 |
megan_w_ | only one? | 19:42 |
malini | Can I +1 the intro? | 19:42 |
malini | *-) | 19:42 |
amitgandhinz | just the ideas section | 19:43 |
amitgandhinz | megan_w_: lets do +1 against most important | 19:43 |
amitgandhinz | not everyone +1 everything else it becomes pointless lol | 19:43 |
megan_w_ | k | 19:43 |
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obulpathi | amitgandhinz: can you please add little bit more details on cielometer tracking | 19:48 |
amitgandhinz | obulpathi: so ceilometer integration | 19:48 |
amitgandhinz | this came out of last weeks meetup with dhellmann | 19:48 |
obulpathi | yes | 19:48 |
amitgandhinz | he suggested surfacing metrics via ceilometer | 19:48 |
amitgandhinz | to do tracing | 19:48 |
miqui | hahaaha on line 63: | 19:48 |
amitgandhinz | so for example we log a request coming through poppy, to the provider, and through designate | 19:48 |
obulpathi | cool | 19:49 |
amitgandhinz | and surfface those through ceilometer | 19:49 |
amitgandhinz | its just an idea | 19:49 |
amitgandhinz | i need to look into it more | 19:49 |
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tonytan4ever | What about streaming feature ? | 19:50 |
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amitgandhinz | so there is video streaming | 19:50 |
amitgandhinz | also PUSH originss | 19:50 |
tonytan4ever | Come on, ought to give streaming +1 guys | 19:51 |
amitgandhinz | ok so 9 min left in the meeting | 19:51 |
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amitgandhinz | im just thinking if we can realistically do that by May | 19:51 |
amitgandhinz | with Swift integration and other basic functionality | 19:51 |
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miqui | i think perhaps better get a solid footing on the basic features,etc... | 19:52 |
megan_w_ | i think they are bot important, just swift more | 19:52 |
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miqui | swift would be good to have i think... | 19:52 |
megan_w_ | bot=both | 19:52 |
amitgandhinz | yeh, i would like the basic stuff to be solid | 19:52 |
malini | amitgandhinz: +1 | 19:52 |
megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: so what if we focus on design for this session, and our goal of the brown bag is getting contributors/participants | 19:53 |
amitgandhinz | we can | 19:53 |
amitgandhinz | the brown bag is going to be more marketing speak | 19:53 |
megan_w_ | i know you already have some stuff put together, but don't forget your marketing hat :) | 19:53 |
amitgandhinz | hey this is poppy | 19:53 |
amitgandhinz | we are doing cool stuff | 19:53 |
amitgandhinz | come help us | 19:53 |
malini | & you get a high | 19:54 |
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megan_w_ | "poppy allows operators to quickly add cdn to their portfolio" = money for cdn providers :) | 19:54 |
megan_w_ | you get it | 19:54 |
malini | megan_w_: you are genius | 19:54 |
ametts | Demos are aways good if you can pull it off -- even if its a super-simple 2-minute one via a ssh connection. | 19:54 |
ametts | Just shows that we're not vaporware | 19:55 |
megan_w_ | i was thikning something recorded would even be good | 19:55 |
megan_w_ | or is that a no no? | 19:55 |
amitgandhinz | maybe (if it all runs nicely on my machine) | 19:55 |
amitgandhinz | but im weary of the internet connection to the vendor | 19:55 |
miqui | yes... | 19:55 |
ametts | Key thing is to keep the logistics simple, so you don't burn all your time fiddling with the equipment. | 19:55 |
miqui | that is most defiantely a concern... | 19:56 |
miqui | was not that great last summit ... | 19:56 |
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ametts | If you do it from a cloud server, all you have to worry about is ssh to the cloud server. | 19:56 |
ametts | And if that flakes out, well, you tried. | 19:56 |
miqui | if its a demo that runs entirely local... best... | 19:56 |
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amitgandhinz | miqui: +1. except i cant run fastly or akamai locally =P | 19:56 |
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ametts | amitgandhinz is a wimp | 19:57 |
miqui | ahhh..hmm.. | 19:57 |
malini | amitgandhinz: you shud try harder | 19:57 |
amitgandhinz | hmmm....we need to integrate with an opensource cdn implementation we can run via docker haha | 19:57 |
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amitgandhinz | ok 3 minutes left | 19:57 |
miqui | right fire up docker container running poppy+cdn... | 19:57 |
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megan_w_ | time check: 2 min | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | this etherpad is still around so we can pick it up later and discuss again next thur | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | miqui: will you be in paris? | 19:58 |
miqui | nope... | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | =/ | 19:58 |
miqui | will try for vancouver... | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | ya | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | ok so SWIFT is a discussion point | 19:58 |
malini | we all have to go from atl to vancouver so we can meet :D | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | and second topic? | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | or warig and see | 19:58 |
amitgandhinz | Queues looks next popular | 19:59 |
amitgandhinz | s/warig/wait | 19:59 |
miqui | if the nature of a typical CDN request is async... then queues make a ,lot of sense... | 19:59 |
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megan_w_ | amitgandhinz: time | 20:00 |
amitgandhinz | ok lets move to the other channel | 20:00 |
amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 20:00 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 23 20:00:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-10-23-19.00.html | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-10-23-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2014/poppy_weekly_meeting.2014-10-23-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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