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| sc68cal | hello | 15:00 |
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| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 15:01:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:01 |
| xuhanp | hello | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
| absubram | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sc68cal | For those that missed the general meeting, the K-2 window is approaching fast | 15:02 |
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| sc68cal | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-2 K-2 blueprints | 15:03 |
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| sc68cal | they're focusing on the high and critical items - but xuhanp I know you have a BP that is set for k-2, how goes progress? | 15:03 |
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| xuhanp | I already proposed a patch. will be great if it can get some reviews. | 15:04 |
| xuhanp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136713/ | 15:04 |
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| sc68cal | perfect - I think I looked earlier this morning and saw jenkins failing | 15:06 |
| sc68cal | don't know if that was gate bugs or your code | 15:06 |
| xuhanp | they are all passed now :-) | 15:06 |
| sc68cal | :) | 15:06 |
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| sc68cal | Is there anything else we have set for K-2? I think I saw one bug that was assigned to K-2 that has ipv6 in it | 15:07 |
| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1323766 | 15:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1323766 in neutron "Incorrect Floating IP behavior in dual stack or ipv6 only network" [Medium,In progress] | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | it appears the patch for that issue is stalled - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131145/ | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | hmm, that might not be the right patch | 15:09 |
| sc68cal | There was another patch that would return an error in the API when someone tried to do a floating IP associate on the v6 side. | 15:09 |
| sc68cal | nope sorry that looks like the correct patch | 15:10 |
| xuhanp | sc68cal, that's the one | 15:10 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: does Bradley Jones work for cisco? | 15:11 |
| baoli | sc68cal: let me talk to him and find out. | 15:11 |
| sc68cal | baoli: thanks. He's probably going to need to take a look at some of the refactoring that carl_baldwin has done on the l3 agent | 15:12 |
| sc68cal | and rebase | 15:12 |
| baoli | sc68cal, sure | 15:12 |
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| sc68cal | This is just my gut instinct, but the K-3 window looks like it's going to be a lot of things competing for core reviewer attention | 15:12 |
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| sc68cal | if you have a BP set for k-3 - I would strongly suggest getting your code done ASAP so you have plenty of time for review | 15:13 |
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| sc68cal | or at least posting what you have so far for review, so that progress is shown | 15:14 |
| sc68cal | or consider retargeting for L series | 15:14 |
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| sc68cal | mestery: ^ | 15:15 |
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| sc68cal | that's all I have for today, I'll turn it over to open discussion | 15:15 |
| sc68cal | #topic open discussion | 15:16 |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, I would like to discuss my code review https://review.openstack.org/144943 :-) | 15:16 |
| xuhanp | the conclusion is not very clear last time | 15:17 |
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| sc68cal | ok - I meant to read the logs from last meeting - i know we spoke with HenryG about it | 15:17 |
| sc68cal | I don't remember if we concluded that we should change the behavior to uncouple from enable_dhcp | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | I don't think we agreed on that, but I could be remembering wrong | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | if I am incorrect, my extreme apologies | 15:18 |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, understood. I cannot remember if everyone is agree on that as well. the point I made from last meeting was enable_dhcp is conflict with dhcp-mode slaac or None. | 15:19 |
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| xuhanp | in which case, dhcp is not "enabled" and there is no need to spawn dnsmasq or create dhcp port. | 15:20 |
| sc68cal | agree, it does clash conceptually | 15:20 |
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| sc68cal | but enable_dhcp has a ton of behavior linked to it, as to how neutron behaves | 15:20 |
| sc68cal | and we'd also be introducing different behavior between juno -> kilo | 15:21 |
| xuhanp | I proposed a easier change in patch set 1, but got objected. | 15:21 |
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| sc68cal | i'd rather wait for a magical v3 api to come and fix the inconsistencies between v4 and v6 subnets than try and mess with enable_dhcp too much | 15:22 |
| xuhanp | that works for me too especially when I need to fix a lot of tempest fails. | 15:22 |
| sc68cal | agree. | 15:23 |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, then I may need to roll back to patch set1. It will be great if you can have a look after that. | 15:24 |
| * HenryG shows up late | 15:24 | |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: no problem :) - isn't code review fun? | 15:24 |
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| xuhanp | lol | 15:25 |
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| sc68cal | I'll keep the meeting going till half past, then give everyone back 30 minutes :) | 15:28 |
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| HenryG | I am not sure I see a problem with "special" behavior for enable_dhcp just for ipv6 subnets. But I need to think about it some more. | 15:28 |
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| sc68cal | HenryG: my worry is we already have some complicated logic - don't know if I have the stomach for more complicated | 15:29 |
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| HenryG | I hear you | 15:29 |
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| xuhanp | HenryG, can you leave your comments on the review if you have new ideas? | 15:31 |
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| HenryG | xuhanp: will do, although my time this week is limited | 15:31 |
| xuhanp | HenryG, sure. | 15:31 |
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| sc68cal | ok everyone, until next week! | 15:33 |
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| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 15:33:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-01-13-15.01.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-01-13-15.01.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-01-13-15.01.log.html | 15:33 |
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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 17:00:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
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| serg_melikyan | Hi folks! | 17:00 |
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| FilipBlaha | Hi Serg | 17:00 |
| OndrejVojta | hi | 17:01 |
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| ddovbii | hi | 17:01 |
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| serg_melikyan | Let's start as usual with review of action items from previous meeting :) | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:04 |
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| serg_melikyan | #1 Dmitry Dovbii, write specification for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts | 17:04 |
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| serg_melikyan | ddovbii: had a chance to start working on specification? | 17:05 |
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| ruhe | o/ | 17:06 |
| ddovbii | I started to researching with how to do it. i'm sorry. it is my first spec | 17:07 |
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| ddovbii | * I started researching how to do it | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | We have handful number of specs already on review in murano-specs, you can take a look at them. And obviously you can use already published specs to other spec repos, like nova-specs | 17:08 |
| ddovbii | of course. i understand | 17:08 |
| ddovbii | thanks | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | #2 StanLagun is going to write specs for migrate-to-yaql-vnext | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | Stan is not here today, and unfortunately I didn't see published spec :( | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | #3 serg_melikyan will update roadmap mapping BPs to milestones | 17:09 |
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| dteselkin | o/ | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | I have done that for K1, but I think this page needs certain redesign. Just names of bps are not enough to understand which features are introduced | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | dteselkin: o/ | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | Let's move to discussion about functional tests for policy-guided fulfillment feature? | 17:12 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: ^> ? | 17:12 |
| hmunfru | hi serg, before changing the topic | 17:12 |
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| hmunfru | I have been working on the two specs, support for language configuration and blueprint templates | 17:12 |
| hmunfru | If was also discussing with Stan, so I have to work more on it, when I understand more the code.. | 17:13 |
| FilipBlaha | thanks, we wrote functional test but the test requires enable option in murano.conf | 17:13 |
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| FilipBlaha | the option enable_model_policy_enforcement is by default disabled | 17:14 |
| serg_melikyan | hmunfru: Hi Henar! Long time no see :) I was already worried about this ) | 17:14 |
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| hmunfru | hi. I has been on holidays for the last three weeks | 17:14 |
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| hmunfru | anyway, everybody is free for providing comments to the specs.. | 17:15 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: I am not sure to how correctly provide this option in Tempest. AFAIK they do have some wrapping around settings, so you can modify some options before running tests | 17:16 |
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| serg_melikyan | hmunfru: thank you, of you already started doing some work, it will be really helpfull if it will be published to Gerrit with Work In Progress status | 17:17 |
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| hmunfru | you can find them in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141334/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146815/ | 17:18 |
| FilipBlaha | functional run against some devstack instance.Tempest is responsible for creating devstack instance for functional test? I run functional tests against devstack which I installed manually | 17:19 |
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| FilipBlaha | and I manually changed that option in murano.conf | 17:20 |
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| FilipBlaha | when the jenkins executes functional tests how is created devstack instance for that tests? | 17:22 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: sorry, I had no chance to research answer to your question. One of the possible suggestion maybe to ask guys from QA program about how to do that. Another way is take a look at sources of already written tests, I am sure that there are already tests that need same functionality | 17:23 |
| FilipBlaha | ok, thanks | 17:23 |
| serg_melikyan | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest | 17:24 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: sorry for being not so helpful :( | 17:24 |
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| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: Sean Dague (sdague) may be great source of knowledge about tempest :) | 17:25 |
| serg_melikyan | And e-mail to openstack-dev@ is also a good way to ask specific questions | 17:25 |
| serg_melikyan | And we also have ask.openstack.org | 17:26 |
| FilipBlaha | ok, I will try to find out. Thanks for links | 17:26 |
| serg_melikyan | hmunfru: have you already started working on the implementation? | 17:31 |
| hmunfru | no really. firsly we need to clarify how to include in murano (the specs work) | 17:31 |
| ruhe | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/README.rst this might be a good starting point to get understanding of how tests are run in VM | 17:31 |
| hmunfru | after that it will be simpler | 17:31 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: I could not find proper documentation for tempest, any chance you know the link? Unfortunately http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/index.html tells almost nothing about how to actually use tempest correctly | 17:38 |
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| ruhe | serg_melikyan: i know two sources - source code of devstack-gate and README file in tempest source tree | 17:40 |
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| serg_melikyan | ok | 17:42 |
| serg_melikyan | btw, I forgot to change the topic. We are on Open Discussion | 17:42 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:42 |
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| serg_melikyan | I think we can end meeting earlier today, if there are no other things to discuss | 17:46 |
| ruhe | no objections from my side | 17:47 |
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| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 17:48:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-01-13-17.00.html | 17:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-01-13-17.00.txt | 17:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-01-13-17.00.log.html | 17:48 |
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| jdob | o/ | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 19:03:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:03 |
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| SpamapS | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 19:03 |
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| SpamapS | #topic agenda | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:04 | |
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| bnemec | o/ | 19:04 |
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| shardy | o/ | 19:04 |
| SpamapS | Normally I paste the agenda blindly, but I want everyone to take a moment to confirm we need all these and that there aren't other agenda items we need. So I'll mention each one and pause for comments. | 19:04 |
| SpamapS | * bugs | 19:04 |
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| SpamapS | ok we'll keep that one. :) | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | * reviews | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | also one I think we need to discuss | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | * Projects needing releases | 19:06 |
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| SpamapS | I feel like this one is usually just a nomination for somebody to volunteer and it's done. | 19:07 |
| SpamapS | But it seems to be working so why change it? | 19:07 |
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| * SpamapS taps the mic | 19:07 | |
| SpamapS | is this thing on? | 19:07 |
| jdob | sure, its reasonably quick | 19:07 |
| jdob | to select a volunteer | 19:07 |
| jdob | hell, I'll make this one easy this week: I'll do it | 19:07 |
| jdob | done | 19:07 |
| Ng | can we just automate the releases? :D | 19:08 |
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| SpamapS | btw I may go dark for a moment if the people installing my new HVAC unit clip my coax with their crane.. I'll come back on 4G tether if it happens. | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | Ng: I often wonder that. ;) | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | * CD Cloud status | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | I feel like this one needs rethinking | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | we don't really run it like we used to | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | and there are really a bunch of TripleO clouds that don't really operate using CD | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | So I wonder if we can morph this into "Live Cloud Status" and offer it as a chance for those running our TripleO clouds to speak up. | 19:09 |
| bnemec | Do those people come to the meeting? | 19:10 |
| Ng | do we want it to just be about the infrastructure clouds we're running for ourselves, or do we mean "anyone running a tripleo cloud can come and complain in this agenda item"? | 19:10 |
| dprince | bnemec; no way, they are off fixing things | 19:11 |
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| bnemec | :-) | 19:11 |
| SpamapS | As somebody who has struggled to bring up a TripleO cloud, I'd like it to be an agenda item where we can discuss known things affecting real clouds at a higher level than bugs. | 19:11 |
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| Ng | +1 | 19:11 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | Also poor tchaypo has been fighting hp2 for months alone, I want it to be a place where we offer support to tripleo-cd-admins. ;) | 19:12 |
| dprince | +1, we need a post-mortem | 19:12 |
| bnemec | I'm not opposed to it, but if we want to do that we need to make sure the right people can be here is all. | 19:13 |
| SpamapS | #action SpamapS to change "CD Cloud Status" to "Live Clouds Status" in wiki | 19:14 |
| Ng | s/Live/Production/ maybe? | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | w/e | 19:14 |
| greghaynes | My only fear is same as bnemec, that the participants for the most part might not be here but it doesnt hurt to try - worst case well just move along quickly | 19:14 |
| greghaynes | so +1 :) | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: why aren't they here? | 19:14 |
| Ng | tchaypo is often very timezone afflicted | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | I say unto all of you.. ;) | 19:14 |
| greghaynes | I think most cloud operators dont want to be told to wait until the meeting to bring up their issues | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | We have an alt TZ meeting which will share this agenda. | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: this is not like that | 19:15 |
| Ng | SpamapS: indeed. Does anyone apart from him and StevenK go to those? ;) | 19:15 |
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| SpamapS | I'm saying if we're talking about something affecting a real cloud in #tripleo or on the ML or in person, we should encourage people to share here so that developers are present to discuss. | 19:15 |
| SpamapS | Ng: dunno. :/ | 19:16 |
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| * SpamapS hears the crane flexing | 19:16 | |
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| greghaynes | ok, so in addition to the normal issue-bringing-up | 19:16 |
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| SpamapS | * CI | 19:16 |
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| SpamapS | vital, don't change it, IMO | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | * Specs | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | also vital, need to do more here actually | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | and finally * Open discussion | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | duh, keeping that | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | ok so on to bugs? | 19:17 |
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| bnemec | +1 | 19:18 |
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| * bnemec wonders if SpamapS got craned ;-) | 19:21 | |
| greghaynes | Yes, so bugs, lets make less of those ;) | 19:21 |
| bnemec | And fix the ones we do have | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | no crane | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | #topic bugs | 19:21 |
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| SpamapS | but almost :) | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-net-config | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:22 |
| bnemec | Can we close https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1405908 ? | 19:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1405908 in tripleo "Setuptools 8.4 fails to upgrade/install packages" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:22 |
| bnemec | We're multiple major versions past 8.4 now. | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | sounds like it | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | bnemec: seems like it's resolved for us anyway | 19:23 |
| greghaynes | bnemec: yep, the revert to that fix has even been marged | 19:23 |
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| SpamapS | bug 1374626 is still stalled on me being too busy | 19:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1374626 in tripleo "UIDs of data-owning users might change between deployed images" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374626 | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | bug 1401617 is similarly stalled | 19:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1401617 in tripleo "Flavor based ramdisk/kernel ID is deprecated in Ironic since Juno" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1401617 | 19:24 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: whats going on with bug 1385346 | 19:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1385346 in tripleo "upstart service unreliable after introducion of pipe to logger" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1385346 | 19:24 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: Its been fix commited - its as good as its going to get basically | 19:24 |
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| greghaynes | we no longer do the | logger hack so aside from fixing upstart... | 19:25 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: we are fixing upstart by moving to systemd. ;) | 19:25 |
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| greghaynes | Out of the furnace ... | 19:26 |
| greghaynes | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1401300 is stalled on me | 19:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1401300 in tripleo "Keystone Private Key not securely sent to host" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | I don't see any other criticals. | 19:26 |
| greghaynes | I plan to do a hacky temp fix for it very soon | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | any other bugs we need to discuss? | 19:27 |
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| greghaynes | dont think so | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | #topic reviews | 19:29 |
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| SpamapS | #info There's a dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | So, I think I'm going to do a meta-review of tchaypo | 19:30 |
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| SpamapS | seems like he'd make a good addition to the core review team | 19:30 |
| Ng | SpamapS: very +1 | 19:30 |
| bnemec | +1 | 19:30 |
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| greghaynes | yaya | 19:30 |
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| SpamapS | Pretty sure a review of his reviews will confirm that. | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | THe stats are a little bit meaningless right now | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | I move we ignore them. | 19:31 |
| bnemec | We had talked about sending a reminder in January that we would be potentially pruning the core list once everyone has had a chance to get back from the holidays. | 19:32 |
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| SpamapS | bnemec: right, so it's hard to judge the core list with the remnants of December still dogging the stats. | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | bnemec: so maybe 2 more weeks? | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | anything else? Anybody want something specific reviewed, or feel a spec is ready for +A? | 19:34 |
| dprince | I'd like eyes on my swift puppet stuff | 19:35 |
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| dprince | I'm also finding some really good fixups cleanups as I'm reviewing things for puppet support as in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146293/1 | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | awesome | 19:36 |
| dprince | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146292/1 | 19:36 |
| bnemec | I'll put in a plug for giulio's Cinder HA spec: https://review.openstack.org/101237 | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | Really good to see that progressing. | 19:36 |
| dprince | I'm not a swift expert though. So eyes :) | 19:36 |
| bnemec | It's pretty much what we discussed at summit. | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | Yeah I feel like the cinder HA spec is pretty good and will be ready for +A once it has a few more reviews. | 19:36 |
| SpamapS | also I'm a ceph fanboi so doooo it ;) | 19:36 |
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| SpamapS | ok moving on? | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:38 |
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| * SpamapS spins the wheel of developers | 19:38 | |
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| SpamapS | tick... tick.......... greghaynes ? | 19:38 |
| greghaynes | sure | 19:38 |
| SpamapS | fantastic | 19:38 |
| dprince | greghaynes: you won! | 19:38 |
| greghaynes | \O/ | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | A NEW CAR! | 19:39 |
| greghaynes | Best releases ever | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | and by car I mean release of diskimage-builder | 19:39 |
| greghaynes | oh :( | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | #topic Live Clouds Status | 19:39 |
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| SpamapS | I've been trying to run a cloud on blades backed by SAN and it's been rough | 19:39 |
| SpamapS | I've resorted to pre-formatting the SAN LUN's with an ext4 label and then overriding block-device-mapping.ephemeral0 to point at /dev/disk/by-label/.... | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | seems like it might work, multipath issues notwithstanding | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | I also had a situation where my blades were set to 250 days ago in their hwclocks | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | so had to go through and reset all the clocks | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | anybody else want to share? | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | (Feels like group therapy ... ;) | 19:42 |
| SpamapS | Going to move on then. | 19:42 |
| bnemec | SpamapS: Your last five lines all came in within two seconds for me. | 19:43 |
| bnemec | Not that I have anything to share anyway :-) | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | bnemec: which is why I pause. :) | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | #topic CI | 19:43 |
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| Ng | SpamapS: too late for you now, but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145743/ should have prevented that time horror | 19:44 |
| SpamapS | Ng: ah right maybe my cloud is old. ;) | 19:44 |
| SpamapS | I don't know how CI is doing lately. | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | Seems like it is stable right now | 19:45 |
| greghaynes | our failure rate seems pretty high ATM, I keep seeing networkey issues | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | #link http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/s_tripleo-jobs.html | 19:45 |
| greghaynes | this is just based on my random reviewing though | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | yeah ow | 19:45 |
| bnemec | Actually, I'm seeing all red for our precise jobs atm: http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | if people can devote a little time this week to debugging those fails.. it can get off the rails fast if we don't stay on top of it. | 19:45 |
| SpamapS | #link http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html | 19:46 |
| bnemec | W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/main/source/Sources 503 Service Unavailable | 19:46 |
| SpamapS | eeeenteresting | 19:46 |
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| greghaynes | and OUTPUT=ERROR (ConnectionError): ('Connection aborted.', error(113, 'No route to host')) | 19:46 |
| greghaynes | anywho, something to debug | 19:47 |
| bnemec | Yep | 19:47 |
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| SpamapS | #topic Specs | 19:47 |
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| Ng | SpamapS: (blah, that was poorly worded. that change hasn't landed yet. I meant it should prevent that, once landed) | 19:48 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: ahh1 | 19:52 |
| SpamapS | #topic open discussion | 19:52 |
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| SpamapS | Meetup! | 19:52 |
| * greghaynes just booked | 19:52 | |
| SpamapS | We may have a final attendee list at this point. | 19:52 |
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| jdob | can you link the etherpad for that again? | 19:53 |
| SpamapS | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-tripleo-midcycle-meetup | 19:53 |
| shardy | SpamapS: is there still space for additional attendees? | 19:53 |
| SpamapS | shardy: yes we have space for 30 and I count 13. | 19:53 |
| shardy | SpamapS: ok, thanks, just wondering as stevebaker and I were discussing it | 19:53 |
| SpamapS | o/' bring it on down to tripleo-ville o/' | 19:54 |
| geoffarnold | What's the cutoff date? | 19:54 |
| SpamapS | geoffarnold: day of. :) | 19:54 |
| Ng | hopefully someone will eat an inadvisable amount of BBQ, in my absence :D | 19:54 |
| SpamapS | Curious where those who have booked are staying. | 19:54 |
| SpamapS | I'm in the Westin | 19:54 |
| geoffarnold | thanks. | 19:54 |
| greghaynes | Im at crowne plaza | 19:55 |
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| greghaynes | which I believe is literally across the street | 19:55 |
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| TheJulia | I'm in the Hilton | 19:55 |
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| greghaynes | optimal dispersement achieved! | 19:55 |
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| SpamapS | Sheraton is across the street from the office. Crowne Plaza is a bit down toward Pioneer Square IIRC but I may be misremembering. | 19:55 |
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| SpamapS | awesome we'll be able to escape eachother properly then. ;) | 19:56 |
| dprince | like a fine wine | 19:56 |
| TheJulia | greghaynes: I think your like 5 blocks from the office | 19:56 |
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| greghaynes | what! | 19:57 |
| greghaynes | the CWT map must have been lies if thats the case | 19:57 |
| SpamapS | If people can start filling out the agenda that would be great. | 19:57 |
| SpamapS | I think hammering HP2 into submission and pushing on the HA job stability are at the top of my list. | 19:58 |
| SpamapS | also getting puppety things landed | 19:58 |
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| dprince | SpamapS: ++ | 19:58 |
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| SpamapS | anyway, let's wrap up. Thanks everyone!!! | 19:58 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 19:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 19:58:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-01-13-19.03.html | 19:58 |
| Ng | thanks SpamapS | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-01-13-19.03.txt | 19:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-01-13-19.03.log.html | 19:58 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 21:01:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-01-13_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:01 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:01 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:01 |
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| muralia | murali allada | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:01 |
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| phiche | Philip Cheong | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | hello everyone. Welcome Philip. | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| phiche | thanks :) | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | The OpenStack Foundation is holding an election. It is exceedingly important that we all vote in the election. | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | If you have not yet voted, please go look for the invitation sent to your inbox from Jonathan Bryce, and vote today. | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | I voted. | 21:04 |
| dimtruck | Dimitry Ushakov | 21:05 |
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| adrian_otto | the reason this election is so important is that bylaws changes require 25% participation in order to count | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | and the board needs bylaws to be changed in order to function | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | so we all need to do our part this week to vote, thanks! | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | thanks for the heads up | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | do you have a link to the bylaws documentation handy somewhere? | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | is the new program changes part of the bylaws? | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | you are presented with a redline when you view your ballot | 21:06 |
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| adrian_otto | so you can show up to vote even if you have not reviewed the bylaws changes in advance | 21:07 |
| datsun180b | curiously the redline i saw used blue to show changes to the documents | 21:07 |
| muralia | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/2014ProposedBylawsAmendment | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | however, if you don't know who you want to vote for for individual directors, you are only presented with a list of names on the ballot for that section, so you will want to look at the Candidate list | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | it might be worth linking that here for reference. | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | thanks muralia | 21:08 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://www.openstack.org/election/2015-individual-director-election/CandidateList Candidate List for Individual Directors | 21:09 |
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| devkulkarni | when does the voting end? | 21:09 |
| muralia | adrian_otto: what is the individual director role? | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | until Friday, January 16th, 2015 at 11:00am CST/1700 | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | an individual director is a member of the Board of Directors of the OpenStack Foundation | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | these individuals make up 8 seats of the board, and are selected by the electorate | 21:10 |
| datsun180b | just days away | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | there are other seat categories where a member is appointed | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | muralia: is that what you meant? | 21:11 |
| muralia | yup. thanks | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | so you are given 8 votes, and you can distribute them among the candidates as you wish, giving all your votes to one candidate, or sharing them among multiple choices. | 21:12 |
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| adrian_otto | the top 8 vote getters become Directors, with one exception | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | a maximum of two directors from any single affiliation can serve on the board at once | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | so if a platinum or gold member has a appointed/selected a member already, only one additional director can prevail in the individual election. | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | from that same affiliation | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | does that make sense? | 21:14 |
| muralia | yes | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any other announcements from team members? | 21:15 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic review action items | 21:15 |
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| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to follow up with mistral devs to arrange a tagged release that we can use as a stable dependency | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | my apologies for failing to complete this. | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 21:17 |
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| datsun180b | oh i got one | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146607/ Change 'app' commands to 'plan' commands | 21:17 |
| datsun180b | way ahead of me | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: acknowledged | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | I will call on you before advancing to Open Discussion | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | so, would anyone like to speak to 146607? | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | I like the suggested change | 21:18 |
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| devkulkarni | I vote for moving forward with it | 21:18 |
| datsun180b | there's a reason for this besides keeping the names and commands square | 21:18 |
| muralia | me too. | 21:18 |
| james_li | +1 | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | datsun180b: please share reasoning | 21:19 |
| datsun180b | that is, my next step is to add a handful of commands that refer to an app and do more than just manipulate a plan or an assembly | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | Ed, you put a -1 review on this | 21:19 |
| datsun180b | ultimately the goal is to tuck away the details of what a plan and and assembly and a component all are, so a user is really only dealing with applications | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | next time you can put Workflow-1 on it | 21:19 |
| datsun180b | oh whooops | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | which would allow voting without causing "disagreement" stats to accumulate for voters, but block merge | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | maybe that's what you meant to do? | 21:20 |
| datsun180b | well i can abandon/resub if the metrics are important | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | no biggie | 21:20 |
| datsun180b | takes about three clicks and two commands | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | just for future | 21:20 |
| datsun180b | noted | 21:20 |
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| datsun180b | so, any dissenting opinions about renaming those plan commands? | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | no objection from me | 21:22 |
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| adrian_otto | really this is just removing ambiguity in the terminology | 21:22 |
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| adrian_otto | so I'll pursue a #agreed on this unless I hear an opposing point of view | 21:22 |
| datsun180b | cool | 21:22 |
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| datsun180b | hoped it would be seen as straightforward | 21:22 |
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| adrian_otto | #agreed We reached a consensus about clarifying the "app" and "plan" terminology as proposed in https://review.openstack.org/146607. We support this approach. | 21:23 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I see ed- changed his vote on that | 21:23 |
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| adrian_otto | so feel free to +2+A | 21:24 |
| datsun180b | i'm not made of stone, a man can change his mind | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we have a few reviews that need love | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115687/ | 21:24 |
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| datsun180b | oh wow that one's all green now, i'll throw in on it | 21:25 |
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| adrian_otto | so the question for this group of contributions is if we are not voting on these for a reason, in which case they should be abandoned, or do we just need a nudge to have a look at them | 21:25 |
| datsun180b | i was only holding off because they were a chain and the head had some troubles | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | I had a feeling that problematic gates were causing a lack of voting | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | I think we were waiting for Jenkins to be green | 21:26 |
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| datsun180b | and gil mentioned some kind of change for pecan to change the accept behavior in a bigger way | 21:26 |
| datsun180b | though that doesn't mean denying legit code | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | right.. I was hoping gpilz will be around today to weigh in on those reviews | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | well, let's handle that iteratively | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | if there is a better way to address the concern, the right instrument is a patch submitted as a gerrit review | 21:27 |
| datsun180b | ^ +1 | 21:27 |
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| adrian_otto | Gil's input probably relates to supporting PATCH, which PEcan+WSME does not support out of the box | 21:28 |
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| adrian_otto | which is related, but not the same subject as this bug | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/solum+branch:master+topic:bug/1331093,n,z | 21:28 |
| datsun180b | reminds me, i should see if gtree still works | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | so I urge for reviewers to look at the above list for merge consideration | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: were there others outside of this set for team discussion today? | 21:30 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: no, those were the main ones | 21:31 |
| gpilz | sorry I'm late | 21:31 |
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| adrian_otto | the openstack bot appears to be on the other side of the split | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | so let's wait a moment to see if this heals | 21:35 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, we have the bot back, and the user list rebounded, so I think we are set to go again | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | everyone please wave for me o/ | 21:36 |
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| datsun180b | \o/ | 21:36 |
| * gpilz waves | 21:37 | |
| devkulkarni | here | 21:37 |
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| phiche | ello | 21:37 |
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| adrian_otto | do I have muralia? | 21:37 |
| muralia | yes | 21:38 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, and mkam? | 21:38 |
| james_li | here | 21:38 |
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| adrian_otto | good, and james_li | 21:38 |
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| mkam | I'm back | 21:38 |
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| adrian_otto | here we go again | 21:38 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I am going to end our meeting now while I still can. | 21:39 |
| adrian_otto | we only has Open Discussion remaining | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | ok, sounds good | 21:39 |
| adrian_otto | so lets do that in #solum to the extend that discussion is possible | 21:39 |
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| adrian_otto | s/extend/extent/ | 21:39 |
| muralia | ok | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | sorry for the disruption | 21:40 |
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| datsun180b | well you did cause it | 21:40 |
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| adrian_otto | no | 21:40 |
| datsun180b | of course you didn't | 21:40 |
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| adrian_otto | that would be like poking myself in the eye | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | ;-) | 21:40 |
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| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is 2015-01-20 at UTC 2100 | 21:41 |
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| adrian_otto | I will join you for that, or arrange with devkulkarni or another delegate to chair if I must be absent | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | current travel plan has me on the ground in time to start the meeting | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | see you all then, thanks everyone | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 21:42:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-01-13-21.01.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-01-13-21.01.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-01-13-21.01.log.html | 21:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 22:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-01-13_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:00 |
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| adrian_otto | this is the worst in stability I have seen in a long time | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | dims__: yt? | 22:07 |
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| thomasem | hmmm | 22:07 |
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| sdake | steak is here | 22:08 |
| dims__ | adrian_otto: y am here | 22:08 |
| jay-lau-513 | jay lau is here | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | ok, starting to see your messages now | 22:08 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: freenode staff is preparing for maintenance | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | ? | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | does that mean service will be interrupted? | 22:09 |
| apmelton | "We are about to start rehubbing the network ahead of planned maintenance work. This will cause some netsplits, but should be completed shortly. Thank you for your patience and for flying freenode! :)" | 22:09 |
| sdake | letw sjust get rolling | 22:09 |
| sdake | and hope for the best :) | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | agreed | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | Mid-Cycle Meetup Planning | 22:09 |
| sdake | unfortuantel yteh meeting has been taken over by solum :) | 22:09 |
| sdake | someone from solum needs to do an #endmeeting | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:10 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 22:10:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:10 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.00.html | 22:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.00.txt | 22:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.00.log.html | 22:10 |
| sdake | wierd | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | that's was ours | 22:10 |
| sdake | maybe my client is busted | 22:10 |
| sdake | just ignore me :) | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:10 |
| apmelton | sdake: I see the topic as well | 22:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 22:10:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:10 |
| sdake | it still says "Solum team meeting" | 22:10 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:10 |
| thomasem | Looks like I'm back now | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | ok, this is a continuation of the following meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.00.html | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | attendance in the prior record shall apply. | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | Mid-Cycle Meetup Planning | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054053.html Call for Feedback | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | please respond to the Doodle poll in the ML thread | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | to indicate if there is at least an 80% chance you will attend | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | so far we have 6 respondents, and 5 indicated they will attend on the earlier dates. | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | so I'm reluctant to call a meeting for 5 of us, but I hope that I'll get more input from you all to help decide | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | Release Readiness | 22:13 |
| sdake | mabye a followup post to the ml in case people missed the first CFP | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | good idea | 22:14 |
| jay-lau-513 | my feedback is already there and I hope that I can attend remotely | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | #idea post a followup to the ML in case people missed the first CFP | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | yes, thanks jay-lau-513 | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | we will do our best to accommodate | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so on the subject of Release Readiness | 22:15 |
| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto great | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | we have a bunch of bugs that need to be closed prior to tagging a release. | 22:15 |
| sdake | basically the only thing that works is bay create and pod create | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum Our Bugs | 22:15 |
| sdake | everything else is busted | 22:15 |
| sdake | all the delete operations don't work | 22:15 |
| sdake | service create is busted | 22:15 |
| sdake | rc create is busted | 22:16 |
| jay-lau-513 | I think yuanying has fixed the deleted issues for pod and service | 22:16 |
| sdake | I just tested master - it is still busted | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | so please take a look at that list today, and let's see if we can make a judgement about whether we can quickly fix, or plan another announce date | 22:16 |
| sdake | but atleast the correct names are passed now | 22:16 |
| yuanying-alt | hmm | 22:16 |
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| sdake | the port is 192.168.x.z:None" instead of :8080" | 22:16 |
| sdake | I think that is part of the problem | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | I'd like to resolve all Critical and High bugs | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | that gives us 10 actionable bugs on hand | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | in those severity levels | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | thoguhts? | 22:18 |
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| sdake | the bugs probably take 1-2 hours per bug | 22:19 |
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| sdake | I am a big fan of releasing on tuesdays, gives people the msot time to look at the code before they forget about it on the weekdn :) | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | agreed | 22:20 |
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| sdake | I'd suggest slipping until the 19th and tag as soon as all the bugs are fixed | 22:20 |
| sdake | and then announce on the 20th | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | so my ask of all our contributors today id to find one of the criticals that you think you can resolve, if you can earmark time today or tonight to work on it, claim the bug by marking yourself as the assignee | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | and submitting a patch | 22:21 |
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| adrian_otto | tag it with Closes-Bug: NNN in your commit message | 22:21 |
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| sdake | maybe we should go through bug assignment in the meeting | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410444 magnum service create fails | 22:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1410444 in magnum "magnum service-create fails" [Critical,Confirmed] | 22:23 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | irc://sendak.freenode.net:6667/#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410444 magnum service create fails | 22:23 |
| sdake | all the blueprints are done yay [\o{ | 22:23 |
| * adrian_otto applauds | 22:24 | |
| adrian_otto | symptom is: "No handlers could be found for logger "magnumclient.common.httpclient"" | 22:24 |
| thomasem | Sounds like it's trying to log the actual problem, but nothing was there to handle that logging. :P | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | taht would be a great comment to add to the bug | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | even if it's just a gut reaction | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | next we have: #1410447 https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410447 | 22:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1410447 in magnum "replication controller creation fails" [Critical,Confirmed] | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410447 | 22:26 |
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| thomasem | added | 22:27 |
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| adrian_otto | symptom is "ERROR: 'Client' object has no attribute 'rcs'" | 22:27 |
| yuanying-alt | It has not implemented yet. | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | ok, in that case we should pull the feature prior to release | 22:28 |
| jay-lau-513 | I will try to make replication controller work | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | jay-lau-513 | 22:28 |
| yuanying-alt | it's good idea | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | I will assign you to this one, thanks | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | done. | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | Next one is... | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410448 | 22:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1410448 in magnum "replication controller should require a bay id" [Critical,Confirmed] | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | jay-lau-513: I'm going to give this one to you also if that's ok | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | we can come back at the end if we have contributors looking for more work | 22:30 |
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| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto ok | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | next one is the quickstart, which I will fix. | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | after that we have: | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410507 | 22:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1410507 in magnum "magnum bay-delete fails with error 400" [Critical,Confirmed] | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | another symptom surfacing as: No handlers could be found for logger "magnumclient.common.httpclient" | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | so this one and 1410444 probably get solved with a common fix (my wild guess) | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | volunteers for this one? | 22:32 |
| hongbin | also | 22:32 |
| hongbin | why not magnum bay-delete xxx | 22:32 |
| hongbin | instead of magnum bay-delete --id xxx | 22:32 |
| sdake | the clinet expect s--id | 22:32 |
| sdake | dont ask me why | 22:32 |
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| sdake | its not ideal, but it is what it is | 22:32 |
| hongbin | the --id is not necessary | 22:32 |
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| adrian_otto | that would be a good tech-debt bug | 22:32 |
| sdake | it is something we can fix later imo :) | 22:32 |
| hongbin | k | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | I will welcome that if you file it, I will put it as a wishlist | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | next, we have: | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410510 | 22:33 |
| yuanying-alt | I will fix it. | 22:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1410510 in magnum "magnum pod-delete fails with error 500" [Critical,Confirmed] | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | this is another: No handlers could be found for logger "magnumclient.common.httpclient" | 22:33 |
| yuanying-alt | I think this issue is caused by old version of code. | 22:33 |
| yuanying-alt | so I will check it. | 22:33 |
| sdake | yuanying I pulled master and tried it | 22:34 |
| sdake | with no luck | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | thanks yuanying-alt | 22:34 |
| sdake | but maybe I had old bits somehow | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | if these can not be reproduced, then great, we can quickly close them out | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | that concludes the list of Critical | 22:35 |
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| sdake | if you cna't reproduce them, send me a private messag eand I'lll try to reproduce on my end with a fresh master and fresh db | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | the following few are severity: High | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1405356 | 22:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1405356 in magnum "Tech Debt: Fix endpoint configuration on docker handler" [High,Triaged] | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | yuanying-alt: comments on this one? | 22:36 |
| yuanying-alt | I have no idea. | 22:37 |
| yuanying-alt | But I think | 22:37 |
| yuanying-alt | docker container is created by bay. | 22:37 |
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| yuanying-alt | shoud be created by bay. | 22:37 |
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| sdake | maybe we can ignore this one for later | 22:38 |
| sdake | do we need it to access the rest api is the question | 22:38 |
| sdake | eg like pod-create, that is something we need | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so we have the correct Importance assigned to this one? | 22:39 |
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| sdake | I errored on the side of caution with trriage | 22:39 |
| sdake | but I wasn't sure about this one | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so unless I hear anything to the contrary, I will leave this one as-is | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | let's check the next | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1406539 | 22:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1406539 in magnum "Request context is not set correctly" [High,Fix committed] | 22:40 |
| sdake | Ithink we should be challennging high/critical bugs - if they are not really high critical | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | that one is fixed | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | next is: | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1410473 | 22:41 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1410473 in magnum "If Heat templates not found, no reasonable error reported" [High,Confirmed] | 22:41 |
| sdake | conductor implodes | 22:41 |
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| sdake | not ideal :) | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | so some additional checking logic could help here | 22:42 |
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| adrian_otto | and that concludes the top 10 | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | so if you can help out, even just sharing your thoughts in comments, that would be very helpful | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Discussion of introduction of the specs process to Magnum. | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | do we want to tackle this today, or defer this one out a week? | 22:45 |
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| adrian_otto | I suppose I can take a quick indication if active contributors feel that new contributions are discussed enough in BP or task(bug) tickets prior to submission for review? | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | If not, then a specs process could be a good way to address that concern | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | Thoughts? | 22:46 |
| sdake | I have been using specs with different openstack projects | 22:46 |
| apmelton | about all I can add is specs would be helpful for those new to the project to begin assisting in feature development | 22:46 |
| sdake | I find it really heavyweight for where we are inthe project's development | 22:47 |
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| sdake | I think ML would be better place to discuss use cases and whatnot | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | I agree with sdake's sentiment on this | 22:47 |
| apmelton | though blueprints are just as helpful | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | we have not leveraged the ML very much, and it would be a great place to have those discussions | 22:48 |
| sdake | I think 6 mo down the road to specs make sense? probably | 22:48 |
| sdake | do they make sense today, not so much :) | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | any alternate viewpoints to consider on this subject? | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | I'm happy to revisit it again as often as we need to | 22:48 |
| sdake | cool we made a decision yay :) | 22:49 |
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| adrian_otto | #agreed We will use the ML to discuss new feature ideas, and implementation options rather than a formalized specs process for now. | 22:49 |
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| adrian_otto | you are always welcome to use a WIP review as a discussion instrument as well | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | as long as you consider that work as displosable | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open DIscussion | 22:50 |
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| sdake | I know I haven't been able to contribute much to Magnum since late december | 22:51 |
| sdake | that will change starting feb 1st | 22:51 |
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| sdake | enjoy :) | 22:51 |
| dims__ | nice sdake! i've been lax a bit as well, hopefully get going again in a week or so | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | thanks sdake | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | have you all been happy with the velocity of review approvals. | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | ? | 22:52 |
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| sdake | review queue is moving fast imo :) | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | from my perspective they seem to be moving through pretty well | 22:52 |
| dims__ | yep! | 22:52 |
| hongbin | agree | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | I've been voting for merging imperfect code with tech debt tracking | 22:52 |
| jay-lau-513 | pretty fast! | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | recent remarks I have left in place of #TODO comments… a request for a wishlist bug as well. | 22:53 |
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| adrian_otto | you *are* welcome to submit bugs against code that's not merged yet | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | I will just not mark that as triaged until after merge | 22:53 |
| sdake | I think what magnum milestone #1 is is pretty sweet | 22:53 |
| sdake | I think we are going to be challenged coming up with improvements from here on out | 22:53 |
| sdake | so if you have ideas for improvements please file a blueprint | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | and if we end up abandoning a review, we can do the same for related bug tickets. | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | +1 | 22:54 |
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| adrian_otto | I think we should take a moment to recognize the team's efforts. | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | progress here has been remarkable. Thanks so much for everything you have done to help us. | 22:55 |
| sdake | ya this team rocks ! | 22:55 |
| sdake | reminds me of the heat team early on | 22:55 |
| jay-lau-513 | We need to attract more | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | it's one thing to have big ideas, and it's another to make them come to life. | 22:56 |
| yuanying-alt | ^_^ | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | jay-lau-513: our planned announcement will do that | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | I actually would like to share one thing | 22:56 |
| jay-lau-513 | Someone is asking me how to contribute, how to ramp up ;) | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | and I don't think he would mind if he were here | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | but Vish sent me an email this week recognizing our progress, and admitting that his position voiced in Paris was wrong, and that he is now wishing us the best for success. | 22:57 |
| sdake | we need more blueprints for devs to take a crack at | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | and I think that's a huge testament to how well this team is performing. | 22:57 |
| sdake | nice | 22:57 |
| sdake | who is this vish cat | 22:57 |
| sdake | the ironic ptl? | 22:57 |
| jay-lau-513 | cool! | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | :-) | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | so just a few minute left | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | I want to remind everyone that we have a critically important election underway | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | so if you ahve not yet voted, please leek for the reminder email in your inbox and use your personalized ballot link to vote | 22:58 |
| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto I see you are a candidate board member :) | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | if we don't get a 25% turnout of the electorate, we can't make the bylaws amendments, which we really need | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | jay-lau-513: yes, sir. | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | so please take time to vote, we really need your participation in this one. | 22:59 |
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| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is 2015-01-20 at 1600 UTC. I'll see you all then. Watch the ML in the mean time. | 23:00 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 23:00:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.10.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.10.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-13-22.10.log.html | 23:00 |
| thomasem | Take it easy! | 23:00 |
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| apmelton | o/ | 23:02 |
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