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Sukhdev | Hello L2GW folks | 17:59 |
maruti | Hi | 17:59 |
maruti | Sukhdev | 17:59 |
armax | Hi | 17:59 |
maruti | Hi Armando | 18:00 |
Sukhdev | considering it is a US holiday - lets how many people join us today | 18:00 |
Sukhdev | ^see^ | 18:00 |
ashishg_ | hi | 18:00 |
armax | let’s hoe this is going to be a short meeting :) | 18:00 |
maruti | :) | 18:00 |
Sukhdev | OK - lets get started | 18:01 |
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Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 19 18:01:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw' | 18:01 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 18:01 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Agenda | 18:01 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements: | 18:01 |
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Sukhdev | I thought I ask armax to give an overview update | 18:02 |
armax | Sukhdev: sure, from my end I have been looking at the code under review | 18:02 |
armax | since the last time we spoke, we have another couple of rounds on the API blueprint proposal | 18:03 |
yamahata | hello | 18:03 |
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Sukhdev | Link to API proposal spec is here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144173/ | 18:03 |
armax | there were some comments from a few folks interested in the project that a wiki would be useful to pinpoint use cases | 18:03 |
armax | we are or are not interested in | 18:04 |
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armax | in the short and/or medium term | 18:04 |
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armax | Sukhdev and ijw were tasked to come up with it, so Sukhdev perhaps you can give us an update on that | 18:04 |
armax | having said that, the code has started | 18:05 |
armax | pouring in so we need reviewers to help us fleshing out as many issues as we can | 18:05 |
Sukhdev | armax: yes, I was suppose to kick start the wiki - I have not been able to make much progress on it - | 18:05 |
Sukhdev | armax: few critical customer issues popped up and consumed most of time - but, will get it going soon | 18:06 |
armax | the initial implementation is targeting hardware vtep schema running on external elements, like switches, however we’d want to address the pure software play too | 18:06 |
armax | and for that we need volunteers, see Sukhdev I jumped all the way to the end of the agenda :) | 18:06 |
Sukhdev | armax: I noticed :-) | 18:07 |
Sukhdev | But, we will go through it item by item anyways | 18:07 |
armax | sorry for the brief detour, let’s go back…that’s it from me…I’ll keep on reviewing the code | 18:07 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Patches under review | 18:07 |
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Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/networking-l2gw,n,z | 18:08 |
Sukhdev | we have many additional patches - | 18:08 |
Sukhdev | This is great news - I noticed this morning that we have a patch for the tests as well | 18:08 |
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Sukhdev | we all need to jump in help with the reviews | 18:09 |
maruti | Alok has started CI setup as well. | 18:09 |
Sukhdev | any questions from the team on the patches | 18:09 |
Sukhdev | maruti: cool - that will be nice | 18:09 |
Sukhdev | Is Alok here? | 18:09 |
songole | Sukhdev: does the patch program vtep schema? | 18:09 |
alokmaurya | we are planning CI setup .... initially we'll have ovsdb server | 18:10 |
selvakumar | May be Alok can chime in the CI overall overview to armax and Sukdev | 18:10 |
Sukhdev | alokmaurya: thanks for joining us | 18:10 |
songole | Last time I looked at the code it was stubbed out | 18:10 |
alokmaurya | all vadildation will be done at ovsdb server level | 18:10 |
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Sukhdev | alokmaurya: are you using zuul for the CI setup? | 18:10 |
Sukhdev | songole: there is tremendous progress on the patches- you may want to review the updated versions | 18:11 |
songole | Sukhdev: ok, thanks | 18:12 |
Sukhdev | armax: Do we need any CI coordination with the neutron side as well? | 18:12 |
alokmaurya | @sukhdev yesy it will be zuul+jenkins server .... | 18:12 |
armax | the coordination required should be limited to getting the CI to validate Neutron changes as well | 18:12 |
armax | to avoid the chance of breakage caused by changes to the core framework | 18:13 |
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Sukhdev | alokmaurya: If you need any help, please let us know - we have some experiance with CI - Do not struggle alone | 18:13 |
armax | one aspect we nee to get sorted is the integration with the core plugin | 18:13 |
armax | l2gw, or any other service built on top of the core like fw, vpn or lb, need to be aware or core events like port creation etc | 18:13 |
Sukhdev | armax: that is what I meant by the coordination with neutron side - I am hoping CI should test that part as well | 18:14 |
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armax | the wsgi refactoring and the v3 plugin API work that’s ongoing in Neutron is supposed to give us the hooks necessary to get these services fully decoupled from the core | 18:14 |
armax | I am watching the space but nothing major has happened so far…I am thinking of a contingency plan in case things don’t work out as they should | 18:15 |
armax | but there’s still a bit of time | 18:15 |
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Sukhdev | armax: understood - we should keep an eye on it | 18:15 |
Sukhdev | Anything else on the patches? | 18:15 |
Sukhdev | Any questions - we have authors here | 18:16 |
Sukhdev | Ok - lets move on | 18:16 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Functional Testing | 18:16 |
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Sukhdev | I saw a patch for the tests this morning - have not had a chance to review it | 18:17 |
selvakumar | Sukhdev - just we need your blessings for review the patchset that is related to l2gateway | 18:17 |
Sukhdev | selvakumar: I am on it - will get the reviews going shortly | 18:17 |
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Sukhdev | I have another person from Arista who is also reviewing the code/patches | 18:18 |
selvakumar | Sukhdev: sure thanks. | 18:18 |
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Sukhdev | Here is the link for the tests - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148188/ | 18:18 |
Sukhdev | We need volunteers for functional tests and reviews | 18:19 |
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Sukhdev | Any takers? | 18:19 |
ashishg_ | we will add more functional test moving forward for l2 gateway | 18:20 |
Sukhdev | Folks who are listening on this channel, this is your opportunity to join us and make contribution to this program | 18:20 |
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Sukhdev | ashishg_: I will review the patch and provide feedback as to what other tests we should include | 18:20 |
ashishg_ | i am currently writing test based on the tempest framework for api testing | 18:21 |
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Sukhdev | ashishg_: that is a perfect starting point | 18:21 |
armax | yes, in Neutron we’re really close to moving the API tests out of neutron | 18:21 |
ashishg_ | the current patch set is according to the tempest framework for basic rest api testing | 18:21 |
armax | sorry I meant Tempest | 18:21 |
armax | out of Tempest | 18:21 |
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Sukhdev | Anything else on the tests? | 18:22 |
alokmaurya | Sukhdev : should be add functionality tests with does validation in ovsdb server and tunnel formation is smae place ? | 18:22 |
Sukhdev | alokmaurya: you mean end-to-end tests. | 18:23 |
alokmaurya | yes | 18:23 |
Sukhdev | Yes, that we the ultimate goal | 18:23 |
Sukhdev | will | 18:23 |
Sukhdev | Anything else on test? | 18:24 |
* Sukhdev waiting | 18:24 | |
Sukhdev | #topic: Action Item from previous week | 18:24 |
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Sukhdev | I provided the status on the wiki - will get it going soon | 18:24 |
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maruti | Alok can add CI information to the wiki after it is available. | 18:25 |
Sukhdev | maruti: yes, that will be good | 18:25 |
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alokmaurya | maruti : sure | 18:25 |
Sukhdev | In fact, you can create a separate wiki for it and we can add a link to the main wiki | 18:25 |
maruti | sounds good | 18:26 |
Sukhdev | alokmaurya: Here is an example of wiki for CI that I put together - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Arista-third-party-testing | 18:26 |
Sukhdev | alokmaurya: perhaps you can use this as a sample | 18:27 |
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alokmaurya | Sukhdev : sure i'll have a look at it .... | 18:27 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Virtual Gateway Implementation | 18:27 |
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Sukhdev | As armax mentioned present implementation is for HW based devices | 18:28 |
Sukhdev | We need to extend it to virtual devices | 18:28 |
Sukhdev | Is there anybody out there who has a use case for the virtual devices? | 18:28 |
Sukhdev | We will need volunteers for that part | 18:29 |
yamahata | I'm interested in it. | 18:29 |
Sukhdev | yamahata: great | 18:29 |
yamahata | But no plan at the moment. give me a while | 18:29 |
Sukhdev | yamahata: Please review the patches and understand the code and then feel free to jump in when you feel it is appropriate | 18:30 |
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yamahata | Sukhdev: sure. | 18:30 |
Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 18:31 |
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Sukhdev | Any body has anything to discuss related to L2GW? | 18:31 |
Sukhdev | This is great opportunity to bring it up | 18:31 |
* Sukhdev waiting | 18:31 | |
songole | Sukhdev: Is there a plan to support Logical_Router in hardware vtep? | 18:31 |
songole | In the first release target? | 18:32 |
armax | songole: not in the first release target | 18:32 |
songole | armax: ok, thanks | 18:32 |
Sukhdev | songole: first release is very limited scope | 18:33 |
armax | songole but we can put it on the radar and talk about it for sure | 18:33 |
songole | ok. Is there a doc on how is it supposed to ok | 18:33 |
Sukhdev | songole: just to understand, you mean to have logical router running on HW device, right? | 18:34 |
songole | Sukhdev: yes | 18:34 |
Sukhdev | songole: We support that in Arista HW - you could today have neutron routers running on Arista HW | 18:34 |
Sukhdev | I implemented the L3 Router Service plugin on Arista HW | 18:35 |
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songole | Is there a plugin I could use for reference? | 18:35 |
Sukhdev | It uses Neutron Router API - the actual router functionality is implemented in the Hardware | 18:35 |
Sukhdev | songole: yes | 18:36 |
* Sukhdev looking | 18:36 | |
songole | Sukhdev: thanks | 18:36 |
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Sukhdev | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/services/l3_router/l3_arista.py | 18:36 |
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songole | Sukhdev: thanks | 18:37 |
Sukhdev | BTW, there are other implentations as well - Brocade and APIC | 18:37 |
Sukhdev | Anything else? | 18:38 |
songole | Does it use vtep schema or Arista EOS calls? | 18:38 |
Sukhdev | No - not presently - we use SVIs | 18:38 |
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Sukhdev | Once we have L2GW functionality implemented - we may consolidate | 18:39 |
songole | Sukhdev: got it. | 18:39 |
Sukhdev | Well, folks, thanks for joining us today | 18:39 |
Sukhdev | If you have any feedback, please send us a ping | 18:40 |
Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 18:40 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 19 18:40:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:40 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-01-19-18.01.html | 18:40 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-01-19-18.01.txt | 18:40 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-01-19-18.01.log.html | 18:40 |
songole | bye | 18:40 |
armax | thanks everyone! | 18:40 |
armax | bye | 18:40 |
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vladiskuz_ | o/ | 19:00 |
davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 19 19:00:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
vladiskuz_ | o/ | 19:01 |
pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
catherineD2 | o/ | 19:01 |
davidlenwell | Hello everyone! | 19:01 |
pvaneck | hello! | 19:02 |
davidlenwell | So lets kick off.. | 19:02 |
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davidlenwell | mostly I want to drill through the action items we left off with from last weeks f2f. | 19:03 |
davidlenwell | #f2f Action items | 19:03 |
davidlenwell | #topic f2f action items | 19:03 |
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davidlenwell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-january-2015-midcycle | 19:03 |
davidlenwell | I'll go first | 19:03 |
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davidlenwell | I'm in contact with folks on the q/a team at piston. | 19:04 |
zehicle | o/ | 19:04 |
davidlenwell | We need to work out a date to drop in their office and help them get a working config. | 19:04 |
davidlenwell | I had initially thought this friday would work.. but I had forgotten that I have to be in seattle at the end of this week. So I am going to email them back today and see about postponing it till next week. | 19:05 |
davidlenwell | Still waiting to hear back about who to bother at hp.. will stay on top of that. | 19:05 |
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catherineD2 | ic ... Pleae try to set that up on Friday (any)... | 19:05 |
davidlenwell | I believe chris is with the rest of the foundation team at their retriet .. so anything on my list that involved working with hogepodge will be delayed until he returns or checks in.. I hope he's snorkling and not checking his email. | 19:06 |
davidlenwell | refstack.org | 19:07 |
catherineD2 | zehicle: Did the by-law pass? | 19:07 |
davidlenwell | we will get to that soon catherineD2 | 19:07 |
davidlenwell | lets stay on topic | 19:07 |
davidlenwell | we're going to drill through this list | 19:07 |
catherineD2 | davidlenwell sorry | 19:07 |
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sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:08 |
davidlenwell | So joshua doesn't have control over refstack.org .. he had registered it with the piston account .. I am waiting to hear back from them about getting it parked on a free dns service so that we can make adjustments ourselves. | 19:08 |
davidlenwell | I believe chris macgown is out today.. so I'll follow up with him on that and get it in our control as soon as possible. | 19:09 |
zehicle | catherineD2, yes | 19:09 |
davidlenwell | catherineD2: lets go through your list now. | 19:09 |
catherineD2 | OK | 19:10 |
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catherineD2 | work with chris on tempest config guide --> on going should have first draft up in google doc this week | 19:11 |
davidlenwell | awesome! | 19:11 |
sslypushenko__ | +1 | 19:11 |
catherineD2 | alpha test refstack client against new public api -- on going trying to pass more test and document the findings | 19:11 |
catherineD2 | ook into putting cleanup scripts into tempest and get them involved --> open story and assign to Paul https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000117 (https://storyboard.openstack.org/#%21/story/2000117) | 19:12 |
davidlenwell | cool | 19:13 |
davidlenwell | okay .. thats a good segway into paul... | 19:13 |
sslypushenko__ | Is it should be part of refstack-client? | 19:13 |
davidlenwell | no sslypushenko__ | 19:13 |
davidlenwell | it shouldn't be part of refstack at all | 19:13 |
catherineD2 | maintain a list / google drive doc of tempest short commings --> on going should have google doc this week, Add a comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1250866. That refstack is working on the issue ... | 19:14 |
davidlenwell | tempest cleanup scripts belong in tempest | 19:14 |
sslypushenko__ | Agreed | 19:14 |
davidlenwell | So part of this task was to get the tempest team involved in our work | 19:14 |
davidlenwell | and try to land the clean up scripts in tempest | 19:14 |
sslypushenko__ | Biggest part | 19:14 |
catherineD2 | davidlenwell: sslypushenko__: we start by prototyping and then work on commit to tempest later .. | 19:14 |
davidlenwell | that work has now been assigned to paul.. am I right pvaneck? | 19:14 |
pvaneck | davidlenwell: yep. it is a work in progress | 19:15 |
davidlenwell | thanks | 19:15 |
catherineD2 | that is all for me on the f2f action items ... | 19:15 |
davidlenwell | lets move on to pvaneck | 19:16 |
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davidlenwell | I am in the middle of reviewing your patch pvaneck but as of this morning it needs a rebase | 19:16 |
davidlenwell | not sure if you already pressed that button. | 19:16 |
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pvaneck | yes, I will rebase it now since sergey's patch was just merged | 19:16 |
davidlenwell | awesome | 19:17 |
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davidlenwell | once thats done I'll lay my feedback on it. | 19:17 |
davidlenwell | pvaneck: I also want you to add to the api spec with what you did | 19:17 |
davidlenwell | so that its up to date | 19:17 |
pvaneck | okay, i will outline the new requests and urls | 19:18 |
davidlenwell | thanks | 19:19 |
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davidlenwell | doesn't look like rocky is here.. so we can catch up with her on her stuff later on | 19:19 |
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davidlenwell | #topic team changes decided on durring f2f | 19:20 |
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davidlenwell | Catherine and I had a long and productive discussion about our need for better project managment. Based on that we decided to nominate rockyg as our official team project manager. | 19:21 |
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davidlenwell | Someone who is not a core reviewer who can help us maintain storyboard states and keep us on track. | 19:21 |
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davidlenwell | her and I have agreed to get in sync this week and to transition into her being sort of a scrum master for the project. | 19:21 |
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vladiskuz_ | what about video from f2f meeting? | 19:22 |
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zehicle | +1 | 19:22 |
davidlenwell | additionally we had many long discussion for bringing on more core reviewers to the project. | 19:22 |
davidlenwell | vladiskuz_: we didn't end up recording a lot of it I am sorry about that. | 19:22 |
davidlenwell | well any of it.. | 19:22 |
zehicle | vladiskuz, sorry, no video. We tried but it was not productive | 19:22 |
davidlenwell | a week from today .. in next weeks meetings we will vote on core reviewers. | 19:23 |
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davidlenwell | at this time I think 3 cores is the right number for the size of the team.. the requirments are that a candidate must have made meaningful contributions to our code base, has a clear understanding of the general architecture and has demonstrated strong reviewing skills. | 19:24 |
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davidlenwell | with that in mind I'd like to nominate sslypushenko__ as a core reviewer. | 19:25 |
zehicle | +1 | 19:25 |
vladiskuz_ | +1 | 19:25 |
catherineD2 | ++1 | 19:25 |
davidlenwell | again .. we'll vote on this next week | 19:25 |
pvaneck | +1 lol | 19:25 |
zehicle | FWIW, you mingled two items. # of cores and a nomination | 19:25 |
davidlenwell | if anyone else would like to throw a hat in the ring | 19:25 |
davidlenwell | now is the time | 19:26 |
zehicle | I'd like to suggest the hogepodge also be a core reviewer | 19:26 |
davidlenwell | he hasn't made a single commit to our code base | 19:26 |
zehicle | ...thinking... | 19:26 |
davidlenwell | once he has I'd be more open to that idea | 19:26 |
zehicle | +1 | 19:27 |
davidlenwell | we had that discussion face to face too | 19:27 |
davidlenwell | I don't think he has a problem with it. | 19:27 |
davidlenwell | not to speak for him or anything. | 19:27 |
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zehicle | yes, and I'm concerned that we need someone from the foundation as a core as we try to get into the gate | 19:27 |
zehicle | but I'm OK w/ a wait and see | 19:27 |
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davidlenwell | I'm not okay with letting someone be core who hasn't made any contributions | 19:28 |
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davidlenwell | that is basically unheard of | 19:28 |
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zehicle | davidlenwell, I'm good w/ the position | 19:28 |
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davidlenwell | so next week we'll vote.. if anyone else wants to dive in just let us know. | 19:29 |
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zehicle | can we just vote now? | 19:29 |
Rockyg | o/ | 19:29 |
davidlenwell | I'd like more members to be present | 19:29 |
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davidlenwell | I don't have a huge objection to it. | 19:30 |
zehicle | seems like we have quorum - next week will be less b/c of the product meeting | 19:30 |
davidlenwell | I don't think we have any objections to making sslypushenko__ core .. but I wanted to see if anyone else wanted to take a shot at it.. | 19:31 |
zehicle | #agreed you must be a committer before you are considered for core status | 19:31 |
sslypushenko__ | Thank you for your confidence) | 19:32 |
davidlenwell | you earned it sslypushenko__ | 19:32 |
Rockyg | +1 | 19:33 |
catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: ++1 you earned it | 19:33 |
vladiskuz_ | +1 | 19:33 |
davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: you will have to have a short meeting with catherineD2 and I to discuss the rules.. but I think its safe to say you're in .. and I'll make the change today that ads you as a reviewer. | 19:33 |
sslypushenko__ | Sounds great) | 19:34 |
catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: Congratulation ... | 19:35 |
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davidlenwell | okay .. thats a good segway to the next topic | 19:35 |
davidlenwell | #topic api api api | 19:35 |
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sslypushenko__ | catherineD2 Thank you! | 19:35 |
davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: you have have noticed that we merged the api with db patch this morning. | 19:36 |
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sslypushenko__ | Sure, I did | 19:36 |
davidlenwell | I'd like to now have a discussion about what is next | 19:36 |
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vladiskuz_ | I making changes w/ oslo.db library | 19:36 |
davidlenwell | vladiskuz_: I saw that wip.. good start | 19:37 |
sslypushenko__ | I think we should land Vlad's and Paul's patch | 19:38 |
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davidlenwell | is vlads no longer a wip? | 19:38 |
catherineD2 | we also need https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000118 so that vendor can stand up their own refstack server if they want to | 19:38 |
sslypushenko__ | I'm planing to work on validation feature | 19:38 |
davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: there is a package on pypi called Webster .. check it out | 19:39 |
vladiskuz_ | davidlenwell: It's need more tests | 19:39 |
davidlenwell | okay.. let me know when you think its ready for merge and I'll give it a deaper look. | 19:39 |
sslypushenko__ | davidlenwell Thx, I watched on https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jsonschema | 19:40 |
vladiskuz_ | ok, np | 19:40 |
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davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: can you follow up on that storyboard? | 19:40 |
sslypushenko__ | In any way, I will start from spec | 19:40 |
sslypushenko__ | Sure. | 19:40 |
davidlenwell | make sure the readme us up to date. | 19:40 |
davidlenwell | thanks | 19:41 |
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catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: if we have something like setup_env for refstack (just like the one we have in refstack-client) that would be great .... | 19:41 |
davidlenwell | another thing we need to do is create a script that can detect a change in the repo and upgrade and redeploy the api server. | 19:41 |
davidlenwell | So that as we merge things .. it will cause the server to update itself. | 19:42 |
zehicle | davidlenwell, that would be great | 19:42 |
davidlenwell | I want to eliminate the manual steps around fixing things | 19:42 |
catherineD2 | should we create those stories so we can track .. | 19:42 |
davidlenwell | I will create a story for this and assign an initial spike for writing a spec | 19:42 |
catherineD2 | and know who is working on it .. | 19:42 |
davidlenwell | if nobody else has expierance with this kind of thing I can work on this one.. | 19:43 |
davidlenwell | just the spec mind you | 19:43 |
davidlenwell | I will assign work items to others. | 19:44 |
Rockyg | This might be a good one for Chris. | 19:44 |
Rockyg | If DavidLenwell does the spec, chris can implement | 19:44 |
davidlenwell | perhaps.. we'll see if he's comfortable with that | 19:44 |
Rockyg | With help from othrs | 19:44 |
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davidlenwell | we cannot speak for him while he's in the caribbean | 19:45 |
Rockyg | +1 | 19:45 |
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davidlenwell | and until the spec is defined it doesn't make sense to assign the work items | 19:45 |
davidlenwell | now that you are here Rockyg.. | 19:45 |
davidlenwell | did you read the back scroll? | 19:45 |
Rockyg | Yup. | 19:45 |
Rockyg | Update on my stuff? | 19:45 |
davidlenwell | yes | 19:46 |
Rockyg | I need an estimate of how much time each of the devs on this project have to work on it per week. It will help me estimate what we can get done in a sprint. | 19:46 |
davidlenwell | we need to schedule some time to talk about work flow | 19:46 |
davidlenwell | want to get lunch with me tomorrow? | 19:47 |
Rockyg | I believe DavidLenwell and I are only part time. | 19:47 |
Rockyg | But I don't know how much. | 19:47 |
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Rockyg | I know Hogepoge is part time, but again, don't know how much | 19:47 |
davidlenwell | that will all work it self out | 19:47 |
Rockyg | Where are you going to be? | 19:47 |
davidlenwell | I can go down south... | 19:47 |
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Rockyg | Cool. | 19:48 |
davidlenwell | lets coordinate offline | 19:48 |
Rockyg | Or we can meet part way, like in Fremont. | 19:48 |
davidlenwell | I need to be in san bruno in the late afternoon.. so the other side of the bay would be better | 19:48 |
Rockyg | K | 19:48 |
Rockyg | Redwood City? That might be good. | 19:49 |
davidlenwell | okay | 19:49 |
davidlenwell | we have 10 minutes left.. lets have open discussion | 19:49 |
davidlenwell | #topic open discussion | 19:49 |
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Rockyg | anyway, we need to figure out how much can get done in two weeks' time so that we can have a target for the Summit. | 19:49 |
zehicle | it may be a good idea to be able to recruit beta sitesat the Product meeting next week | 19:50 |
Rockyg | +1 | 19:50 |
davidlenwell | zehicle: I think we have our beta list basically worked out .. if we onboard too many the first week we are going to cause our selves problems | 19:50 |
davidlenwell | I think its important to make sure we are taking bite sized steps to our goal | 19:51 |
Rockyg | I also would like to get a reference small HA stack install designed, including tempest.cfg for easy install/test/small site use. | 19:51 |
zehicle | +1 davidlenwell | 19:51 |
davidlenwell | right now we have three beta testers and what we would call alphas in ibm | 19:51 |
Rockyg | Then,, with tempst.cfg and refstack, they can validate their cloud install. | 19:51 |
davidlenwell | ibm making 4 | 19:51 |
zehicle | let's see if we can build a pipeline and give them a time frame to start planning | 19:51 |
Rockyg | I figure it would be available maybe summit timeframe? | 19:51 |
catherineD2 | here is the list from f2f for beta testing Bluebox DavidL Piston Chris McGowan Dreamhost HP Monty Mirantis suse Redhat Canonic | 19:52 |
zehicle | vendors need to be ready to test a month ahead of summit | 19:52 |
Rockyg | Yeah. I need to work with hogepose/foundation on questionaire/response team | 19:52 |
zehicle | kk, I just reached out the Dreamhost too | 19:52 |
davidlenwell | I think we'll have at least psiton and bluebox within the next few weeks. | 19:52 |
Rockyg | I think hogepose got mataclud last week. | 19:52 |
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catherineD2 | so right now David is responsible for contacting: HP, Piston, Bluebox | 19:53 |
davidlenwell | zehicle: I think you are right for wanting to define the pipeline | 19:53 |
catherineD2 | zehicle: for Dreamhost .. | 19:53 |
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davidlenwell | my plan was to work f2f with pistons q/a team in the next week and use the expierance to help define a process for dealing with the rest. | 19:54 |
zehicle | ll | 19:54 |
zehicle | kk | 19:54 |
zehicle | I'm in SJC area most of next week | 19:54 |
Rockyg | Yeah. I think we'll need some heavy handhoding on the setup. so, only bring on one at a time. | 19:54 |
davidlenwell | well at first | 19:54 |
davidlenwell | we are going to learn a lot as we go | 19:54 |
davidlenwell | and document our expierances | 19:54 |
Rockyg | ++ | 19:54 |
zehicle | anyone have a config that works against the default packstack? pretty easy for me to run it in that | 19:54 |
davidlenwell | this will help us get better and it will help us to have some things to talk about | 19:55 |
zehicle | and even screencast a demo | 19:55 |
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Rockyg | hogepose installed a cloud last week, but don't know which. he's working to get the config working best | 19:55 |
davidlenwell | does anyone have spare cycles to work on zehicle's suggestion? | 19:55 |
zehicle | I just don't have the time to fight through getting the config right. setting up OpenStack & running it is not a big deal | 19:55 |
davidlenwell | It hink its a good idea | 19:55 |
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davidlenwell | if zehicle can get a cloud up and pass creds on to paul .. maybe we can get the tests running? | 19:56 |
zehicle | I'm willing to do a 1x1 via hangout to get it working | 19:56 |
davidlenwell | what do you guys think? | 19:56 |
catherineD2 | davidlenwell: I will submiit a sample to refstack-client today | 19:56 |
davidlenwell | okay | 19:56 |
catherineD2 | sample tempest.conf | 19:56 |
zehicle | easy for me to start w/ a basic packstack install | 19:56 |
davidlenwell | we are about out of time folks | 19:56 |
zehicle | moving to refstack | 19:56 |
davidlenwell | I want to make sure we are wrapped up on time because another team needs the room.. we can move the discussion to #refstack. | 19:56 |
catherineD2 | zehicle: what is the impack to refstack with the election results? | 19:56 |
davidlenwell | Thank you all.. lets talk about that in channel | 19:57 |
Rockyg | see you there. | 19:57 |
catherineD2 | ok | 19:57 |
davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 19:57 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-01-19-19.00.html | 19:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-01-19-19.00.txt | 19:57 |
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zehicle | catherineD2, we're 100% a go. | 19:57 |
zehicle | added a lot of work to my plate :P | 19:57 |
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catherineD2 | zehicle: yay .. and congratulation ... | 19:58 |
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redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 19 20:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
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redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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jaosorior | o/ | 20:00 |
tkelsey | o/ | 20:00 |
alee | o/ | 20:00 |
hockeynut | o/ | 20:00 |
redrobot | as usual, the meeting agenda can be found here: | 20:00 |
redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:00 |
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SheenaG1 | o/ | 20:01 |
rellerreller | o/ | 20:01 |
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redrobot | Only a few barbicaneers here today | 20:02 |
jaosorior | oho | 20:02 |
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redrobot | today's meeting might be a short one | 20:02 |
redrobot | so let's get started | 20:02 |
redrobot | #topic Barbican Mid-Cycle | 20:02 |
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rm_work | o/ | 20:02 |
redrobot | As you may already know the mid-cycle sprint is coming up in about 4 weeks | 20:02 |
hyakuhei | o/ | 20:02 |
redrobot | details can be found here: | 20:03 |
redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BarbicanKiloSprint | 20:03 |
redrobot | I've added an etherpad so that we can start tracking the topics we want to cover during the sprint | 20:03 |
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redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-kilo-sprint | 20:03 |
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redrobot | So feel free to add to the etherpad in advance of the mid-cycle sprint | 20:04 |
redrobot | any questions/comments about that? | 20:04 |
jaosorior | nope | 20:04 |
alee | redrobot, you probably want to add hotel info | 20:04 |
redrobot | alee yes, good point. | 20:04 |
redrobot | I think most of the Rackspace folks are staying at the Omni | 20:05 |
hyakuhei | There’s a few things where OSSG might want to contribute too, we’ve created an additional section for that in our Etherpad | 20:05 |
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hyakuhei | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 20:05 |
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redrobot | hyakuhei cool, will definitely take a look at that. | 20:06 |
redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:06 |
alee | redrobot, they have a few things that would be useful -- a role call for instance | 20:06 |
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redrobot | alee yep, we definitely want to "borrow" some ideas from that etherpad :) | 20:07 |
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redrobot | #topic Vancouver Summit | 20:08 |
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redrobot | The powers that be here at Rackspace have started to think about the Vancouver summit | 20:09 |
redrobot | and with the ATC codes going out now, I figured it would be a good time to start thinking about the summit | 20:09 |
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redrobot | and more long-term plans for barbican | 20:09 |
redrobot | maybe also think about possible Barbican talks to be proposed, etc. | 20:10 |
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rellerreller | We were thinking about proposing a Castellan talk | 20:10 |
redrobot | rellerreller +1 | 20:11 |
hockeynut | rellerreller +1 from me too | 20:11 |
alee | +1 | 20:11 |
jaosorior | +1 | 20:11 |
redrobot | yes, I think that would be good, especially if we can get some traction on it in the next couple of months | 20:11 |
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SheenaG1 | rellerreller: Castellan specifically, or all integration points for Barbican (i.e. python-barbicanclient too)? | 20:11 |
jvrbanac | +1 | 20:12 |
rellerreller | SheenaG1 Just brainstorming now, but was just thinking Castellan | 20:12 |
rellerreller | It would liely include a little on barbican-client to say that is how it talks to Barbican | 20:12 |
hockeynut | I agree with rellerreller - simpler | 20:12 |
SheenaG1 | rellerreller: sounds good | 20:12 |
alee | redrobot, actually, this is a good topic to start bring up now -- deadline for speaking sessions is Feb 9 | 20:13 |
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alee | ie. just over two weeks .. | 20:13 |
redrobot | we were also thinking about a couple of different approaches to discussing use-cases. | 20:13 |
redrobot | alee +1 | 20:13 |
redrobot | I think a proposed talk with use-cases that are possible now would be good | 20:14 |
redrobot | for people who don't know how/why they would use barbican | 20:14 |
redrobot | also, maybe have a design session | 20:14 |
redrobot | asking for use-cases that are not covered now | 20:14 |
redrobot | for people who do know what they want and need from Barbican | 20:15 |
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alee | redrobot, +1 - that'll be a nice intro for folks (secret storage, certs etc.) | 20:16 |
hockeynut | redrobot are those "people" other OS components, or outside applications/services/etc? | 20:16 |
redrobot | hockeynut yeah, s/people/projects/g | 20:17 |
hockeynut | gotcha thx! | 20:17 |
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redrobot | any more thoughts/questions on possible Vancouver talks? | 20:18 |
redrobot | #topic Open Discussion | 20:19 |
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redrobot | Any other topics we want to talk about? | 20:19 |
alee | redrobot, there is a deadline coming up soon -- kilo-2? by which time, all specs should be merged | 20:20 |
redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 20:21 |
redrobot | alee Kilo-2 is due February 5 | 20:21 |
redrobot | it's just another milestone | 20:21 |
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hyakuhei | Question I should probably know the answer to: Do plugins need specs? | 20:21 |
redrobot | March 5 is Feature Proposal Freeze | 20:21 |
redrobot | so March 5 is the last day to propose BPs | 20:22 |
redrobot | alee Feature freeze is not until Kilo-3 | 20:22 |
jaosorior | hyakuhei: I would say yes | 20:22 |
hyakuhei | We want to expand out kmip secret store to use an mkek-like model. It’s something we’ll build ourselves, I presume we need to make a spec for the community anyway but wanted to check. | 20:22 |
redrobot | hyakuhei I think we've asked everyone to do a BP for new plugins | 20:22 |
hyakuhei | That was my hazy recollection, thanks | 20:23 |
jaosorior | hyakuhei: I think we talked about that in the past summit. That seems like pretty good stuff | 20:23 |
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redrobot | anything else? | 20:26 |
redrobot | Bueller? ... Bueller? | 20:26 |
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redrobot | I guess we can call it an early meeting | 20:28 |
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redrobot | thanks everyone for coming! | 20:28 |
hyakuhei | cheers redrobot | 20:28 |
hockeynut | later! | 20:28 |
redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:28 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 19 20:28:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-01-19-20.00.html | 20:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-01-19-20.00.txt | 20:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-01-19-20.00.log.html | 20:28 |
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