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SukhdevHello L2GW folks17:59
marutiHi17:59
marutiSukhdev17:59
armaxHi17:59
marutiHi Armando18:00
Sukhdevconsidering it is a US holiday - lets how many people join us today18:00
Sukhdev^see^18:00
ashishg_hi18:00
armaxlet’s hoe this is going to be a short meeting :)18:00
maruti:)18:00
SukhdevOK - lets get started18:01
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Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_l2gw18:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 19 18:01:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
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Sukhdev#topic: Agenda18:01
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Agenda18:01
Sukhdev#topic: Announcements:18:01
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SukhdevI thought I ask armax to give an overview update18:02
armaxSukhdev: sure, from my end I have been looking at the code under review18:02
armaxsince the last time we spoke, we have another couple of rounds on the API blueprint proposal18:03
yamahatahello18:03
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SukhdevLink to API proposal spec is here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144173/18:03
armaxthere were some comments from a few folks interested in the project that a wiki would be useful to pinpoint use cases18:03
armaxwe are or are not interested in18:04
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armaxin the short and/or medium term18:04
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armaxSukhdev and ijw were tasked to come up with it, so Sukhdev perhaps you can give us an update on that18:04
armaxhaving said that, the code has started18:05
armaxpouring in so we need reviewers to help us fleshing out as many issues as we can18:05
Sukhdevarmax: yes, I was suppose to kick start the wiki - I have not been able to make much progress on it -18:05
Sukhdevarmax: few critical customer issues popped up and consumed most of time - but, will get it going soon18:06
armaxthe initial implementation is targeting hardware vtep schema running on external elements, like switches, however we’d want to address the pure software play too18:06
armaxand for that we need volunteers, see Sukhdev I jumped all the way to the end of the agenda :)18:06
Sukhdevarmax: I noticed :-)18:07
SukhdevBut, we will go through it item by item anyways18:07
armaxsorry for the brief detour, let’s go back…that’s it from me…I’ll keep on reviewing the code18:07
Sukhdev#topic: Patches under review18:07
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Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/networking-l2gw,n,z18:08
Sukhdevwe have many additional patches -18:08
SukhdevThis is great news - I noticed this morning that we have a patch for the tests as well18:08
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Sukhdevwe all need to jump in help with the reviews18:09
marutiAlok has started CI setup as well.18:09
Sukhdevany questions from the team on the patches18:09
Sukhdevmaruti: cool - that will be nice18:09
SukhdevIs Alok here?18:09
songoleSukhdev: does the patch program vtep schema?18:09
alokmauryawe  are planning  CI  setup .... initially  we'll  have  ovsdb server18:10
selvakumarMay be Alok can chime in the CI overall overview to armax and Sukdev18:10
Sukhdevalokmaurya: thanks for joining us18:10
songoleLast time I looked at the code it was stubbed out18:10
alokmauryaall vadildation will be done at  ovsdb  server  level18:10
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Sukhdevalokmaurya: are you using zuul for the CI setup?18:10
Sukhdevsongole: there is tremendous progress on the patches- you may want to review the updated versions18:11
songoleSukhdev: ok, thanks18:12
Sukhdevarmax: Do we need any CI coordination with the neutron side as well?18:12
alokmaurya@sukhdev yesy it  will be zuul+jenkins  server ....18:12
armaxthe coordination required should be limited to getting the CI to validate Neutron changes as well18:12
armaxto avoid the chance of breakage caused by changes to the core framework18:13
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Sukhdevalokmaurya: If you need any help, please let us know - we have some experiance with CI - Do not struggle alone18:13
armaxone aspect we nee to get sorted is the integration with the core plugin18:13
armaxl2gw, or any other service built on top of the core like fw, vpn or lb, need to be aware or core events like port creation etc18:13
Sukhdevarmax: that is what I meant by the coordination with neutron side - I am hoping CI should test that part as well18:14
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armaxthe wsgi refactoring and the v3 plugin API work that’s ongoing in Neutron is supposed to give us the hooks necessary to get these services fully decoupled from the core18:14
armaxI am watching the space but nothing major has happened so far…I am thinking of a contingency plan in case things don’t work out as they should18:15
armaxbut there’s still a bit of time18:15
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Sukhdevarmax: understood - we should keep an eye on it18:15
SukhdevAnything else on the patches?18:15
SukhdevAny questions - we have authors here18:16
SukhdevOk - lets move on18:16
Sukhdev#topic: Functional Testing18:16
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SukhdevI saw a patch for the tests this morning - have not had a chance to review it18:17
selvakumarSukhdev - just we need your blessings for review the patchset that is related to l2gateway18:17
Sukhdevselvakumar: I am on it - will get the reviews going shortly18:17
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SukhdevI have another person from Arista who is also reviewing the code/patches18:18
selvakumarSukhdev: sure thanks.18:18
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SukhdevHere is the link for the tests - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148188/18:18
SukhdevWe need volunteers for functional tests and reviews18:19
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SukhdevAny takers?18:19
ashishg_we will add more functional test moving forward for l2 gateway18:20
SukhdevFolks who are listening on this channel, this is your opportunity to join us and make contribution to this program18:20
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Sukhdevashishg_: I will review the patch and provide feedback as to what other tests we should include18:20
ashishg_i am currently  writing test based on the tempest framework  for api testing18:21
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Sukhdevashishg_: that is a perfect starting point18:21
armaxyes, in Neutron we’re really close to moving the API tests out of neutron18:21
ashishg_the current patch set is according to the tempest framework for basic rest api testing18:21
armaxsorry I meant Tempest18:21
armaxout of Tempest18:21
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SukhdevAnything else on the tests?18:22
alokmauryaSukhdev : should  be add  functionality tests with  does validation in ovsdb server   and  tunnel  formation  is smae  place ?18:22
Sukhdevalokmaurya: you mean  end-to-end tests.18:23
alokmauryayes18:23
SukhdevYes, that we the ultimate goal18:23
Sukhdevwill18:23
SukhdevAnything else on test?18:24
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Sukhdev#topic: Action Item from previous week18:24
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SukhdevI provided the status on the wiki - will get it going soon18:24
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marutiAlok can add CI information to the wiki after it is available.18:25
Sukhdevmaruti: yes, that will be good18:25
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alokmauryamaruti : sure18:25
SukhdevIn fact, you can create a separate wiki for it and we can add a link to the main wiki18:25
marutisounds good18:26
Sukhdevalokmaurya: Here is an example of wiki for CI that I put together - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Arista-third-party-testing18:26
Sukhdevalokmaurya: perhaps you can use this as a sample18:27
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alokmauryaSukhdev :  sure i'll have a look at it ....18:27
Sukhdev#topic: Virtual Gateway Implementation18:27
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SukhdevAs armax mentioned present implementation is for HW based devices18:28
SukhdevWe need to extend it to virtual devices18:28
SukhdevIs there anybody out there who has a use case for the virtual devices?18:28
SukhdevWe will need volunteers for that part18:29
yamahataI'm interested in it.18:29
Sukhdevyamahata: great18:29
yamahataBut no plan at the moment. give me a while18:29
Sukhdevyamahata: Please review the patches and understand the code and then feel free to jump in when you feel it is appropriate18:30
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yamahataSukhdev: sure.18:30
Sukhdev#topic: Open Discussion18:31
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SukhdevAny body has anything to discuss related to L2GW?18:31
SukhdevThis is great opportunity to bring it up18:31
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songoleSukhdev: Is there a plan to support Logical_Router in hardware vtep?18:31
songoleIn the first release target?18:32
armaxsongole: not in the first release target18:32
songolearmax: ok, thanks18:32
Sukhdevsongole: first release is very limited scope18:33
armaxsongole but we can put it on the radar and talk about it for sure18:33
songoleok. Is there a doc on how is it supposed to ok18:33
Sukhdevsongole: just to understand, you mean to have logical router running on HW device, right?18:34
songoleSukhdev: yes18:34
Sukhdevsongole: We support that in Arista HW - you could today have neutron routers running on Arista HW18:34
SukhdevI implemented the L3 Router Service plugin on Arista HW18:35
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songoleIs there a plugin I could use for reference?18:35
SukhdevIt uses Neutron Router API - the actual router functionality is implemented in the Hardware18:35
Sukhdevsongole: yes18:36
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songoleSukhdev: thanks18:36
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Sukhdevhttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/services/l3_router/l3_arista.py18:36
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songoleSukhdev: thanks18:37
SukhdevBTW, there are other implentations as well - Brocade and APIC18:37
SukhdevAnything else?18:38
songoleDoes it use vtep schema or Arista EOS calls?18:38
SukhdevNo - not presently - we use SVIs18:38
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SukhdevOnce we have L2GW functionality implemented - we may consolidate18:39
songoleSukhdev: got it.18:39
SukhdevWell, folks, thanks for joining us today18:39
SukhdevIf you have any feedback, please send us a ping18:40
Sukhdev#endmeeting18:40
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songolebye18:40
armaxthanks everyone!18:40
armaxbye18:40
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vladiskuz_o/19:00
davidlenwell#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 19 19:00:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
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davidlenwellHello everyone!19:01
pvaneckhello!19:02
davidlenwellSo lets kick off..19:02
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davidlenwellmostly I want to drill through the action items we left off with from last weeks f2f.19:03
davidlenwell#f2f Action items19:03
davidlenwell#topic f2f action items19:03
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davidlenwell#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-january-2015-midcycle19:03
davidlenwellI'll go first19:03
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davidlenwellI'm in contact with folks on the q/a team at piston.19:04
zehicleo/19:04
davidlenwellWe need to work out a date to drop in their office and help them get a working config.19:04
davidlenwellI had initially thought this friday would work.. but I had forgotten that I have to be in seattle at the end of this week. So I am going to email them back today and see about postponing it till next week.19:05
davidlenwellStill waiting to hear back about who to bother at hp.. will stay on top of that.19:05
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catherineD2ic ... Pleae try to set that up on Friday (any)...19:05
davidlenwellI believe chris is with the rest of the foundation team at their retriet .. so anything on my list that involved working with hogepodge will be delayed until he returns or checks in.. I hope he's snorkling and not checking his email.19:06
davidlenwellrefstack.org19:07
catherineD2zehicle: Did the by-law pass?19:07
davidlenwellwe will get to that soon catherineD219:07
davidlenwelllets stay on topic19:07
davidlenwellwe're going to drill through this list19:07
catherineD2davidlenwell sorry19:07
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sslypushenko__o/19:08
davidlenwellSo joshua doesn't have control over refstack.org .. he had registered it with the piston account .. I am waiting to hear back from them about getting it parked on a free dns service so that we can make adjustments ourselves.19:08
davidlenwellI believe chris macgown is out today.. so I'll follow up with him on that and get it in our control as soon as possible.19:09
zehiclecatherineD2, yes19:09
davidlenwellcatherineD2: lets go through your list now.19:09
catherineD2OK19:10
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catherineD2work with chris on tempest config guide --> on going should have first draft up in google doc this week19:11
davidlenwellawesome!19:11
sslypushenko__+119:11
catherineD2alpha test refstack client against new public api -- on going trying to pass more test and document the findings19:11
catherineD2ook into putting cleanup scripts into tempest and get them involved --> open story and assign to Paul https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000117 (https://storyboard.openstack.org/#%21/story/2000117)19:12
davidlenwellcool19:13
davidlenwellokay .. thats a good segway into paul...19:13
sslypushenko__Is it should be part of refstack-client?19:13
davidlenwellno sslypushenko__19:13
davidlenwellit shouldn't be part of refstack at all19:13
catherineD2maintain a list / google drive doc of tempest short commings --> on going should have google doc this week,   Add a comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1250866.  That refstack is working on the issue ...19:14
davidlenwelltempest cleanup scripts belong in tempest19:14
sslypushenko__Agreed19:14
davidlenwellSo part of this task was to get the tempest team involved in our work19:14
davidlenwelland try to land the clean up scripts in tempest19:14
sslypushenko__Biggest part19:14
catherineD2davidlenwell: sslypushenko__: we start by prototyping and then work on commit to tempest later ..19:14
davidlenwellthat work has now been assigned to paul.. am I right pvaneck?19:14
pvaneckdavidlenwell: yep. it is a work in progress19:15
davidlenwellthanks19:15
catherineD2that is all for me on the f2f action items ...19:15
davidlenwelllets move on to pvaneck19:16
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davidlenwellI am in the middle of reviewing your patch pvaneck but as of this morning it needs a rebase19:16
davidlenwellnot sure if you already pressed that button.19:16
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pvaneckyes, I will rebase it now since sergey's patch was just merged19:16
davidlenwellawesome19:17
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davidlenwellonce thats done I'll lay my feedback on it.19:17
davidlenwellpvaneck:  I also want you to add to the api spec with what you did19:17
davidlenwellso that its up to date19:17
pvaneckokay, i will outline the new requests and urls19:18
davidlenwellthanks19:19
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davidlenwelldoesn't look like rocky is here.. so we can catch up with her on her stuff later on19:19
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davidlenwell#topic team changes decided on durring f2f19:20
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davidlenwellCatherine and I had a long and productive discussion about our need for better project managment.  Based on that we decided to nominate rockyg as our official team project manager.19:21
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davidlenwellSomeone who is not a core reviewer who can help us maintain storyboard states and keep us on track.19:21
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davidlenwellher and I have agreed to get in sync this week and to transition into her being sort of a scrum master for the project.19:21
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vladiskuz_what about video from f2f meeting?19:22
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zehicle+119:22
davidlenwelladditionally we had many long discussion for bringing on more core reviewers to the project.19:22
davidlenwellvladiskuz_: we didn't end up recording a lot of it I am sorry about that.19:22
davidlenwellwell any of it..19:22
zehiclevladiskuz, sorry, no video.  We tried but it was not productive19:22
davidlenwella week from today .. in next weeks meetings we will vote on core reviewers.19:23
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davidlenwellat this time I think 3 cores is the right number for the size of the team.. the requirments are that a candidate must have made meaningful contributions to our code base, has a clear understanding of the general architecture and has demonstrated strong reviewing skills.19:24
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davidlenwellwith that in mind I'd like to nominate sslypushenko__ as a core reviewer.19:25
zehicle+119:25
vladiskuz_+119:25
catherineD2++119:25
davidlenwellagain .. we'll vote on this next week19:25
pvaneck+1 lol19:25
zehicleFWIW, you mingled two items.  # of cores and a nomination19:25
davidlenwellif anyone else would like to throw a hat in the ring19:25
davidlenwellnow is the time19:26
zehicleI'd like to suggest the hogepodge also be a core reviewer19:26
davidlenwellhe hasn't made a single commit to our code base19:26
zehicle...thinking...19:26
davidlenwellonce he has I'd be more open to that idea19:26
zehicle+119:27
davidlenwellwe had that discussion face to face too19:27
davidlenwellI don't think he has a problem with it.19:27
davidlenwellnot to speak for him or anything.19:27
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zehicleyes, and I'm concerned that we need someone from the foundation as a core as we try to get into the gate19:27
zehiclebut I'm OK w/ a wait and see19:27
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davidlenwellI'm not okay with letting someone be core who hasn't made any contributions19:28
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davidlenwellthat is basically unheard of19:28
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zehicledavidlenwell, I'm good w/ the position19:28
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davidlenwellso next week we'll vote.. if anyone else wants to dive in just let us know.19:29
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zehiclecan we just vote now?19:29
Rockygo/19:29
davidlenwellI'd like more members to be present19:29
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davidlenwellI don't have a huge objection to it.19:30
zehicleseems like we have quorum - next week will be less b/c of the product meeting19:30
davidlenwellI don't think we have any objections to making sslypushenko__ core .. but I wanted to see if anyone else wanted to take a shot at it..19:31
zehicle#agreed you must be a committer before you are considered for core status19:31
sslypushenko__Thank you for your confidence)19:32
davidlenwellyou earned it sslypushenko__19:32
Rockyg+119:33
catherineD2sslypushenko__: ++1 you earned it19:33
vladiskuz_+119:33
davidlenwellsslypushenko__: you will have to have a short meeting with catherineD2 and I to discuss the rules.. but I think its safe to say you're in .. and I'll make the change today that ads you as a reviewer.19:33
sslypushenko__Sounds great)19:34
catherineD2sslypushenko__: Congratulation ...19:35
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davidlenwellokay .. thats a good segway to the next topic19:35
davidlenwell#topic api api api19:35
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sslypushenko__ catherineD2 Thank you!19:35
davidlenwellsslypushenko__:  you have have noticed that we merged the api with db patch this morning.19:36
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sslypushenko__Sure, I did19:36
davidlenwellI'd like to now have a discussion about what is next19:36
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vladiskuz_I making changes w/ oslo.db library19:36
davidlenwellvladiskuz_:  I saw that wip.. good start19:37
sslypushenko__I think we should land Vlad's and Paul's patch19:38
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davidlenwellis vlads no longer a wip?19:38
catherineD2we also need https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000118 so that vendor can stand up their own refstack server if they want to19:38
sslypushenko__I'm planing to work on validation feature19:38
davidlenwellsslypushenko__:  there is a package on pypi called Webster ..  check it out19:39
vladiskuz_davidlenwell: It's need more tests19:39
davidlenwellokay.. let me know when you think its ready for merge and I'll give it a deaper look.19:39
sslypushenko__davidlenwell Thx, I watched on https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jsonschema19:40
vladiskuz_ok, np19:40
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davidlenwellsslypushenko__: can you follow up on that storyboard?19:40
sslypushenko__In any way, I will start from spec19:40
sslypushenko__Sure.19:40
davidlenwellmake sure the readme us up to date.19:40
davidlenwellthanks19:41
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catherineD2sslypushenko__: if we have something like setup_env for refstack (just like the one we have in refstack-client) that would be great ....19:41
davidlenwellanother thing we need to do is create a script that can detect a change in the repo and upgrade and redeploy the api server.19:41
davidlenwellSo that as we merge things .. it will cause the server to update itself.19:42
zehicledavidlenwell, that would be great19:42
davidlenwellI want to eliminate the manual steps around fixing things19:42
catherineD2should we create those stories so we can track ..19:42
davidlenwellI will create a story for this and assign an initial spike for writing a spec19:42
catherineD2and know who is working on it ..19:42
davidlenwellif nobody else has expierance with this kind of thing I can work on this one..19:43
davidlenwelljust the spec mind you19:43
davidlenwellI will assign work items to others.19:44
RockygThis might be a good one for Chris.19:44
RockygIf DavidLenwell does the spec, chris can implement19:44
davidlenwellperhaps.. we'll see if he's comfortable with that19:44
RockygWith help from othrs19:44
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davidlenwellwe cannot speak for him while he's in the caribbean19:45
Rockyg+119:45
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davidlenwelland until the spec is defined it doesn't make sense to assign the work items19:45
davidlenwellnow that you are here Rockyg..19:45
davidlenwelldid you read the back scroll?19:45
RockygYup.19:45
RockygUpdate on my stuff?19:45
davidlenwellyes19:46
RockygI need an estimate of how much time each of the devs on this project have to work on it per week.  It will help me estimate what we can get done in a sprint.19:46
davidlenwellwe need to schedule some time to talk about work flow19:46
davidlenwellwant to get lunch with me tomorrow?19:47
RockygI believe DavidLenwell and I are only part time.19:47
RockygBut I don't know how much.19:47
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RockygI know Hogepoge is part time, but again, don't know how much19:47
davidlenwellthat will all work it self out19:47
RockygWhere are you going to be?19:47
davidlenwellI can go down south...19:47
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RockygCool.19:48
davidlenwelllets coordinate offline19:48
RockygOr we can meet part way, like in Fremont.19:48
davidlenwellI need to be in san bruno in the late afternoon.. so the other side of the bay would be better19:48
RockygK19:48
RockygRedwood City?  That might be good.19:49
davidlenwellokay19:49
davidlenwellwe have 10 minutes left.. lets have open discussion19:49
davidlenwell#topic open discussion19:49
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Rockyganyway,  we need to figure out how much can get done in two weeks' time so that we can have a target for the Summit.19:49
zehicleit may be a good idea to be able to recruit beta sitesat the Product meeting next week19:50
Rockyg+119:50
davidlenwellzehicle:  I think we have our beta list basically worked out .. if we onboard too many the first week we are going to cause our selves problems19:50
davidlenwellI think its important to make sure we are taking bite sized steps to our goal19:51
RockygI also would like to get a reference small HA stack install designed, including tempest.cfg for easy install/test/small site use.19:51
zehicle+1 davidlenwell19:51
davidlenwellright now we have three beta testers and what we would call alphas in ibm19:51
RockygThen,, with tempst.cfg and refstack, they can validate their cloud install.19:51
davidlenwellibm making 419:51
zehiclelet's see if we can build a pipeline and give them a time frame to start planning19:51
RockygI figure it would be available maybe summit timeframe?19:51
catherineD2here is the list from f2f for beta testing     Bluebox   DavidL      Piston      Chris McGowan      Dreamhost      HP             Monty      Mirantis      suse      Redhat      Canonic19:52
zehiclevendors need to be ready to test a month ahead of summit19:52
RockygYeah.  I need to work with hogepose/foundation on questionaire/response team19:52
zehiclekk, I just reached out the Dreamhost too19:52
davidlenwellI think we'll have at least psiton and bluebox within the next few weeks.19:52
RockygI think hogepose got mataclud last week.19:52
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catherineD2so right now David is responsible for contacting: HP, Piston, Bluebox19:53
davidlenwellzehicle:  I think you are right for wanting to define the pipeline19:53
catherineD2zehicle: for Dreamhost ..19:53
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davidlenwellmy plan was to work f2f with pistons q/a team in the next week and use the expierance to help define a process for dealing with the rest.19:54
zehiclell19:54
zehiclekk19:54
zehicleI'm in SJC area most of next week19:54
RockygYeah.  I think we'll need some heavy handhoding on the setup.  so, only bring on one at a time.19:54
davidlenwellwell at first19:54
davidlenwellwe are going to learn a lot as we go19:54
davidlenwelland document our expierances19:54
Rockyg++19:54
zehicleanyone have a config that works against the default packstack?  pretty easy for me to run it in that19:54
davidlenwellthis will help us get better and it will help us to have some things to talk about19:55
zehicleand even screencast a demo19:55
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Rockyghogepose installed a cloud last week, but don't know which.  he's working to get the config working best19:55
davidlenwelldoes anyone have spare cycles to work on zehicle's suggestion?19:55
zehicleI just don't have the time to fight through getting the config right.  setting up OpenStack & running it is not a big deal19:55
davidlenwellIt hink its a good idea19:55
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davidlenwellif zehicle can get a cloud up and pass creds on to paul .. maybe we can get the tests running?19:56
zehicleI'm willing to do a 1x1 via hangout to get it working19:56
davidlenwellwhat do you guys think?19:56
catherineD2davidlenwell: I will submiit a sample to refstack-client today19:56
davidlenwellokay19:56
catherineD2sample tempest.conf19:56
zehicleeasy for me to start w/ a basic packstack install19:56
davidlenwellwe are about out of time folks19:56
zehiclemoving to refstack19:56
davidlenwellI want to make sure we are wrapped up on time because another team needs the room.. we can move the discussion to #refstack.19:56
catherineD2zehicle: what is the impack to refstack with the election results?19:56
davidlenwellThank you all.. lets talk about that in channel19:57
Rockygsee you there.19:57
catherineD2ok19:57
davidlenwell#endmeeting19:57
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zehiclecatherineD2, we're 100% a go.19:57
zehicleadded a lot of work to my plate :P19:57
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catherineD2zehicle: yay .. and congratulation ...19:58
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redrobot#startmeeting barbican20:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jan 19 20:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'barbican'20:00
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redrobot#topic Roll Call20:00
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jaosorioro/20:00
tkelseyo/20:00
aleeo/20:00
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redrobotas usual, the meeting agenda can be found here:20:00
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican20:00
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SheenaG1o/20:01
rellerrellero/20:01
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redrobotOnly a few barbicaneers here today20:02
jaosorioroho20:02
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redrobottoday's meeting might be a short one20:02
redrobotso let's get started20:02
redrobot#topic Barbican Mid-Cycle20:02
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redrobotAs you may already know the mid-cycle sprint is coming up in about 4 weeks20:02
hyakuheio/20:02
redrobotdetails can be found here:20:03
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BarbicanKiloSprint20:03
redrobotI've added an etherpad so that we can start tracking the topics we want to cover during the sprint20:03
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redrobot#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-kilo-sprint20:03
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redrobotSo feel free to add to the etherpad in advance of the mid-cycle sprint20:04
redrobotany questions/comments about that?20:04
jaosoriornope20:04
aleeredrobot, you probably want to add hotel info20:04
redrobotalee yes, good point.20:04
redrobotI think most of the Rackspace folks are staying at the Omni20:05
hyakuheiThere’s a few things where OSSG might want to contribute too, we’ve created an additional section for that in our Etherpad20:05
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hyakuhei#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup20:05
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redrobothyakuhei cool, will definitely take a look at that.20:06
redrobotok, moving on20:06
aleeredrobot, they have a few things that would be useful -- a role call for instance20:06
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redrobotalee yep, we definitely want to "borrow" some ideas from that etherpad :)20:07
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redrobot#topic Vancouver Summit20:08
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redrobotThe powers that be here at Rackspace have started to think about the Vancouver summit20:09
redrobotand with the ATC codes going out now, I figured it would be a good time to start thinking about the summit20:09
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redrobotand more long-term plans for barbican20:09
redrobotmaybe also think about possible Barbican talks to be proposed, etc.20:10
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rellerrellerWe were thinking about proposing a Castellan talk20:10
redrobotrellerreller +120:11
hockeynutrellerreller +1 from me too20:11
alee+120:11
jaosorior+120:11
redrobotyes, I think that would be good, especially if we can get some traction on it in the next couple of months20:11
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SheenaG1rellerreller: Castellan specifically, or all integration points for Barbican (i.e. python-barbicanclient too)?20:11
jvrbanac+120:12
rellerrellerSheenaG1 Just brainstorming now, but was just thinking Castellan20:12
rellerrellerIt would liely include a little on barbican-client to say that is how it talks to Barbican20:12
hockeynutI agree with rellerreller - simpler20:12
SheenaG1rellerreller: sounds good20:12
aleeredrobot, actually, this is a good topic to start bring up now -- deadline for speaking sessions is Feb 920:13
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aleeie. just over two weeks ..20:13
redrobotwe were also thinking about a couple of different approaches to discussing use-cases.20:13
redrobotalee +120:13
redrobotI think a proposed talk with use-cases that are possible now would be good20:14
redrobotfor people who don't know how/why they would use barbican20:14
redrobotalso, maybe have a design session20:14
redrobotasking for use-cases that are not covered now20:14
redrobotfor people who do know what they want and need from Barbican20:15
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aleeredrobot, +1 - that'll be a nice intro for folks (secret storage, certs etc.)20:16
hockeynutredrobot are those "people" other OS components, or outside applications/services/etc?20:16
redrobothockeynut yeah, s/people/projects/g20:17
hockeynutgotcha thx!20:17
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redrobotany more thoughts/questions on possible Vancouver talks?20:18
redrobot#topic Open Discussion20:19
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redrobotAny other topics we want to talk about?20:19
aleeredrobot, there is a deadline coming up soon -- kilo-2? by which time, all specs should be merged20:20
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule20:21
redrobotalee Kilo-2 is due February 520:21
redrobotit's just another milestone20:21
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hyakuheiQuestion I should probably know the answer to: Do plugins need specs?20:21
redrobotMarch 5 is Feature Proposal Freeze20:21
redrobotso March 5 is the last day to propose BPs20:22
redrobotalee Feature freeze is not until Kilo-320:22
jaosoriorhyakuhei: I would say yes20:22
hyakuheiWe want to expand out kmip secret store to use an mkek-like model. It’s something we’ll build ourselves, I presume we need to make a spec for the community anyway but wanted to check.20:22
redrobothyakuhei I think we've asked everyone to do a BP for new plugins20:22
hyakuheiThat was my hazy recollection, thanks20:23
jaosoriorhyakuhei: I think we talked about that in the past summit. That seems like pretty good stuff20:23
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redrobotanything else?20:26
redrobotBueller? ...  Bueller?20:26
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redrobotI guess we can call it an early meeting20:28
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redrobotthanks everyone for coming!20:28
hyakuheicheers redrobot20:28
hockeynutlater!20:28
redrobot#endmeeting20:28
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