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| mrmartin | hi anyone here for ambassador meeting? | 08:06 |
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| marcelodieder | Hi mrmartin | 08:07 |
| marcelodieder | I'm | 08:07 |
| mrmartin | wow. | 08:07 |
| mrmartin | what time is it at your timezone? | 08:08 |
| marcelodieder | for me is 06:00 now | 08:08 |
| marcelodieder | am | 08:08 |
| marcelodieder | and you: | 08:09 |
| marcelodieder | ? | 08:09 |
| mrmartin | 09.00am | 08:09 |
| marcelodieder | cool | 08:09 |
| mrmartin | sarob, are you here? | 08:09 |
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| mrmartin | ok, we can postpone this meeting if nobody else is coming. | 08:10 |
| marcelodieder | yes, i think is better | 08:10 |
| marcelodieder | the next is on thursday | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | I think next time we need to send out some meeting reminders | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | not on friday? | 08:11 |
| marcelodieder | ohh, sorry, yes friday | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | ok, see you then | 08:12 |
| marcelodieder | mrmartin, until friday | 08:12 |
| mrmartin | I'll drop an email reminder to the ambassador list | 08:12 |
| marcelodieder | yes, bye. have a good week. | 08:12 |
| marcelodieder | ok | 08:12 |
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| baoli | hi, there | 13:01 |
| pczesno | hi | 13:01 |
| moshele | hi | 13:01 |
| riwinters | hi | 13:01 |
| baoli | #startmeeting PCI passthrough | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 20 13:01:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| nuritv | Hi | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI passthrough)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:01 |
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| beagles | \o | 13:02 |
| baoli | #topic Bugs | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: PCI passthrough)" | 13:04 | |
| baoli | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1406486 | 13:04 |
| moshele | yes I fixed it | 13:05 |
| baoli | moshele: suspend/resume was working before. Did you track down what has been changed to cause it not to work any more? | 13:05 |
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| baoli | moshele: I saw the change, and it's good I think. Just wondering what makes the get_admin_context() not to work any more. | 13:06 |
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| moshele | baoli: no, I didn't look at the hisrory | 13:06 |
| moshele | history | 13:06 |
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| baoli | moshele: ok. | 13:07 |
| moshele | as I see now it just return context with None value and admin flag is True | 13:07 |
| baoli | so get_admin_context() doesn't return a valid context. | 13:08 |
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| moshele | let me look at the code again | 13:09 |
| moshele | def get_admin_context(read_deleted="no"): | 13:11 |
| moshele | return RequestContext(user_id=None, | 13:11 |
| moshele | project_id=None, | 13:11 |
| moshele | is_admin=True, | 13:11 |
| moshele | read_deleted=read_deleted, | 13:11 |
| moshele | overwrite=False) | 13:11 |
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| moshele | this is the context that returns | 13:12 |
| baoli | moshele: ok, I'll give it a try some time today. | 13:12 |
| moshele | ok | 13:13 |
| baoli | Anything else to bring up on bugs? | 13:13 |
| moshele | baoli: I need your second review for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145035/ | 13:13 |
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| moshele | Add range support to all address in white list | 13:14 |
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| baoli | moshele: will do | 13:14 |
| moshele | thanks | 13:14 |
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| yongli_he | sorry, late | 13:15 |
| baoli | yongli_he: hi | 13:15 |
| yongli_he | hi, baoli | 13:15 |
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| baoli | yongli_he: we are talking about bugs | 13:15 |
| shaohe_feng | hi all | 13:15 |
| shaohe_feng | sorry for late | 13:16 |
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| baoli | shaohe_feng: hi | 13:16 |
| yongli_he | i focus on ci these 2 weeks, not show up here, sorry | 13:16 |
| shaohe_feng | just come back hom. | 13:16 |
| baoli | yongli_he: thanks for the CI work, good stuff. | 13:17 |
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| yongli_he | baoli, we does need CI to move PCI forward, and it does help, catch patches broken the pci | 13:18 |
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| moshele | baoli: we plan to add CI in mellanox for nova as well, because it is blocking all the sriov features | 13:19 |
| baoli | yongli_he: the CI is important for sr-iov/pci related blueprints as well. | 13:19 |
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| baoli | moshele: great. | 13:20 |
| shaohe_feng | yes, CI can make openstack more robust | 13:20 |
| nuritv | yongli_he: are you running API tests or other scenarios? | 13:20 |
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| baoli | let me post the meeting link here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Passthrough | 13:21 |
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| baoli | beagles: on your BP, do we know how to determine a NIC supports single/multiple physical functions per physical port | 13:25 |
| beagles | baoli, not to my knowledge. | 13:26 |
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| baoli | The cisco vNIC supports that. Not sure if intel/mlnx supports multiple physical functions per port. | 13:27 |
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| * beagles nods | 13:28 | |
| baoli | yongli_he, moshele: any idea? | 13:29 |
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| moshele | I will check it here | 13:29 |
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| moshele | baoli: just for my understanding this bp will allow to allocate to vf from 2 diffrent port/nic so bonding on the vm can be done ? | 13:31 |
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| baoli | moshele, it seems to me that it allocates across physical functions (not ports) | 13:33 |
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| baoli | beagles: is that right? | 13:34 |
| beagles | it is based on PCI information really... whatever nova has at hand at scheduling time | 13:34 |
| beagles | so it'll spread consumption across all root PCI devices instead of consuming all from one and then going onto the next | 13:35 |
| beagles | it is a *soft* improvement that could enable bonding, etc. but fundamentally it strives to provide better distribution of resource consumption | 13:36 |
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| beagles | the former is of interest to us, but the latter is simply hard to argue with... making it a more reasonable change for general acceptance. | 13:36 |
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| moshele | bealges: can we talk offline regarding you bp we are also interested in it | 13:38 |
| moshele | ? | 13:38 |
| beagles | moshele, sure | 13:38 |
| baoli | anything else to bring up? | 13:41 |
| baoli | ok, let's call it a day, then. | 13:43 |
| yongilhe_ | my network broken, anything calling me? | 13:43 |
| baoli | yonglihe: we had a question about whether or not intel NIC support multiple PFs per port | 13:44 |
| moshele | youngihe_: what kind of CI testing are you doing api or scenarios testing? | 13:44 |
| yongilhe_ | baoli, i don't know either, let me ask someone later | 13:45 |
| yongilhe_ | moshele, we do scenarios testing, all testcases on git hub | 13:45 |
| moshele | ok thanks | 13:46 |
| baoli | yongihe_: sure, do let us know | 13:46 |
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| baoli | Ok, see you guys next week. | 13:50 |
| yongilhe_ | see you | 13:50 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 13:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 20 13:50:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2015/pci_passthrough.2015-01-20-13.01.html | 13:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2015/pci_passthrough.2015-01-20-13.01.txt | 13:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2015/pci_passthrough.2015-01-20-13.01.log.html | 13:50 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, meeting today? | 15:03 |
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| HenryG | If sc68cal is not around I can run it to go over a couple of discussion points | 15:04 |
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| HenryG | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 20 15:05:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:05 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, let's go | 15:05 |
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| baoli | HenryG: ok, go ahead | 15:05 |
| HenryG | Why can't I find the agenda page? | 15:05 |
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| baoli | Hmm, the link gets lost | 15:07 |
| aveiga | HenryG: I can't find it either. It's no longer in the wiki | 15:07 |
| HenryG | OK, I think we just have some bugs/issues to talk about, and maybe multiple prefixes | 15:08 |
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| HenryG | #topic multiple slaac addresses | 15:08 |
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| HenryG | #link https://review.openstack.org/147076 | 15:08 |
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| HenryG | Mark left a comment | 15:09 |
| HenryG | Any opinions? | 15:09 |
| ihrachyshka | I haven't seen that one, will need to look more closely | 15:10 |
| HenryG | First question is whether to backport. I think it's fine to NOT backport. | 15:10 |
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| aveiga | HenryG: +1 | 15:10 |
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| sc68cal | sorry, got a litle held up - thanks HenryG | 15:10 |
| aveiga | we provided support for SLAAC as a basic option, but never intended support for advanced IPv6 networks with Juno | 15:11 |
| HenryG | Second question is to "treat v4, v6-stateful and v6-stateless" addressing as "co-equals". | 15:11 |
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| HenryG | My take on that is that v6 is on a different trajectory than v4 here. | 15:11 |
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| HenryG | In v6 we want multiple prefixes with one address from each prefix. | 15:12 |
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| ihrachyshka | not to backport, it's change in behaviour. | 15:12 |
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| HenryG | (v4 is just one address from any of the v4 prefixes = pooling) | 15:13 |
| aveiga | HenryG: also agreed on the IPv6 behavior | 15:13 |
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| baoli | HenryG, v4 can be given multiple addresses as well. | 15:14 |
| aveiga | I think the interesting part is going to be how we provide those addresses | 15:14 |
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| HenryG | baoli: can you be more specific? | 15:15 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, you may add an alias to your interface, and set a different IP address to it. | 15:15 |
| baoli | HenryG, you can assign addresses to the neturon port with port-update | 15:15 |
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| dane_leblanc | There should be a difference between how we handle/assign V6 stateless vs. V6 stateful | 15:16 |
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| dane_leblanc | V6 stateless should be automatic/implicit, whereas V6 stateful must be associated explicitly | 15:17 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: at least on freebsd, that is a manual process that has to be done inside the guest | 15:17 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka, baoli: OK, but the v4 address is still taken from the pooled-together prefixes, right? | 15:17 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, yeah, but who said fixed ip must be backed up by dhcp? | 15:17 |
| baoli | HenryG, it can be taken from any of the v4 subnets, Dane can confirm | 15:18 |
| ihrachyshka | + | 15:18 |
| ihrachyshka | HenryG, what do you mean by 'pooled-together prefixes'? | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: I don't know if there is a specification for it, but it is at least by convention | 15:18 |
| dane_leblanc | There's an assumption in the code currently that a port only has one subnet, since the port dict only has a 'subnet' entry, not a 'subnets' entry | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | dane_leblanc: you mean inside the code of the L3 agent, yes? | 15:19 |
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| dane_leblanc | If a second v4 address is added via port-update, and the address is from a different subnet space, this will probably break things | 15:20 |
| baoli | dane_leblanc, talking about regular ports (not router ports, or external gw ports) | 15:20 |
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| baoli | dane_leblanc, I remember you had one paragraph in your multiple prefix spec on multiple v4 addresses | 15:21 |
| dane_leblanc | baoli: right, port['subnet'] might not come into play on internal (non-router) ports | 15:21 |
| dane_leblanc | baoli: multi-prefix spec says that V4 handling won't change, we should still allow v4 addresses added via port-update | 15:22 |
| dane_leblanc | (I take back the previous "...this will probably break things", the 'subnet' vs. 'subnets' should only effect router ports | 15:23 |
| HenryG | So this patch https://review.openstack.org/147076 is just for create_port, as far as I can tell | 15:23 |
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| HenryG | It does not change any code for update_port, it seems | 15:24 |
| baoli | I think it's a bug fix | 15:24 |
| dane_leblanc | HenryG: Yes, looks like create_port without fixed_ips being specified | 15:24 |
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| HenryG | And what it does is create an IP address for each v6 slaac subnet on the network the port is on | 15:25 |
| dane_leblanc | So it should pick a single v4, a single v6 stateful, and all v6 stateless, I think | 15:25 |
| HenryG | dane_leblanc: exactly | 15:26 |
| HenryG | So I think Mark's comment is that v6-stateless is now not "co-equal" with the other two | 15:27 |
| baoli | I actually thouthgt that this should be addressed by the mp bp | 15:27 |
| dane_leblanc | This is as it should be, since SLAAC is automatic | 15:27 |
| aveiga | actually, I need to make this a bit more complicated | 15:27 |
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| aveiga | why do we only do one v6-stateful address? | 15:27 |
| HenryG | aveiga: That is where I was going :) | 15:27 |
| aveiga | ah, ok. I'm doing some work with the Teclo/NFV team, and that's going to come up soon :) | 15:28 |
| HenryG | My take is that this bugfix partially-implements the multiple prefix BP | 15:28 |
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| dane_leblanc | aveiga: For v6-stateful, we could have diverged from V4 handling, and selected all v6 stateful subnets (in addition to all v6 stateless) | 15:28 |
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| dane_leblanc | But in multi-prefix BP, we chose to stay closer to V4 approach | 15:29 |
| dane_leblanc | HenryG: Yes, this partially overlaps with a multi-prefix change that is out for review. | 15:29 |
| aveiga | dane_leblanc: are you suggesting that one of the stateful networks is somehow higher weighted than the others? Not nit-picking, as I agree with keeping it close to v4 for user expectations | 15:29 |
| aveiga | I just want to make sure it's not off the table for other uses, like orchestrating a VNF | 15:30 |
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| dane_leblanc | aveiga: Good question, there's no clear weighting, only "first" v6 stateful gets selected. | 15:30 |
| dane_leblanc | probably based on which was created first chronologically. Should be same as v4 case. | 15:31 |
| aveiga | dane_leblanc: how is first seleceted? This could cause some issues if, say it uses UUID and the network is deleted/recreated for some reason | 15:31 |
| ihrachyshka | I would think adding ipv6 address from every subnet would be beneficial at least to avoid router when accessing neighbours (as it turned out, there is no easy way to pass routes for local subnets via dhcpv6) | 15:31 |
| aveiga | ok, we can table this bit of a tangent | 15:31 |
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| HenryG | Yeah, I am somewhat with ihrachyshka here. At least for stateless it seems we don't want to pool subnets. | 15:33 |
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| HenryG | v4 subnet pooling was done to expand address space. v6 shouldn't need that. <-- HenryG's | 15:35 |
| * ihrachyshka notes that someone should really point me into 'pool' term definition | 15:35 | |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: It just means all subnets together create one pool to pick an address from. | 15:35 |
| ihrachyshka | ah, ok, 'considering them as single entity -> choosing only one of addresses', got it | 15:36 |
| HenryG | v4 subnet pooling was done to expand address space. v6 shouldn't need that. <-- HenryG's opinion | 15:36 |
| ihrachyshka | YES | 15:36 |
| sc68cal | ++ | 15:36 |
| ihrachyshka | it's 2010s outside | 15:36 |
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| HenryG | So in v6 if you add a subnet it should mean you intend to add another address. | 15:38 |
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| HenryG | Anyway, let's move on | 15:38 |
| dane_leblanc | HenryG: So if I understand what you're saying, v4 pooling (all subnets are treated equal, pick one address) doesn't apply to v6 stateful, since v6 stateful subnets are separate | 15:38 |
| ihrachyshka | dane_leblanc, or better, since they are huge | 15:39 |
| baoli | HenryG: the port create API also allow specifying a specific subnet. | 15:39 |
| HenryG | dane_leblanc: Yes | 15:39 |
| ihrachyshka | baoli, we may ignore it. more addresses won't hurt anyone | 15:39 |
| HenryG | baoli: interesting | 15:39 |
| baoli | So it's not strictly for pooling purpose unless I misunderstood the original intent | 15:40 |
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| HenryG | baoli: So that must be for the users who want to be specific about which v4 address they get | 15:40 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka, I agree if that's what the API is designed for. | 15:41 |
| dane_leblanc | baoli: Good point, if fixed_ips list is provided for port-create, user gets to specify explicit subnets to include | 15:41 |
| ihrachyshka | dane_leblanc, but user's requests will be fulfilled. with another hundred of addresses :) | 15:41 |
| HenryG | For v6 then, we have to decide if specifying a subnet returns just one address, or ignores the subnet provided and just returns addresses from all subnets anyway. | 15:42 |
| HenryG | We may have to amend the BP with some details like this. It will affect the API. | 15:43 |
| ihrachyshka | we already assign more addresses than requested for stateless case. I don't see why stateful should be different | 15:43 |
| dane_leblanc | HenryG: I think it makes sense to "ignore the subnet" and return address for all subnets only for the SLAAC cases | 15:43 |
| HenryG | dane_leblanc: That is what I am leaning towards also | 15:43 |
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| dane_leblanc | ihrachyschka: It's unavoidable for stateless, they're automatic, doesn't matter if you pick them in the API/CLI, you'll get them anyway | 15:44 |
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| aveiga | dane_leblanc: that is, unless you want to implement filters at the iptables level to block packets from the router port | 15:45 |
| ihrachyshka | dane_leblanc, well yes. but I wonder what is drawback in setting more addresses than originally asked for? | 15:45 |
| baoli | Like ihrachyshka pointed out earlier, one difference between v4 and v6 in terms of multiple stateful addresses, is that for v4, one can add routes through dhcp so that router doesn't have to be invovled for inter-subnet communication. For v6, dhcpv6 can't be used to inject routes. | 15:45 |
| aveiga | but that can be messy | 15:45 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli++ and that's pretty significant to avoid networker node | 15:46 |
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| baoli | ihrachyshka, so the API is kind of ambiguous on subnets. | 15:46 |
| aveiga | the other issue with sending all RAs from all subnets is that most systems will just take the first RA they see in terms of routes | 15:47 |
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| aveiga | so all non-local packets will be sent via the first seen router, regardless of the source address | 15:47 |
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| HenryG | aveiga: Thanks for that info. Noted, but I don't know what to do about that yet. | 15:49 |
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| HenryG | Something to keep in mind, for sure. | 15:50 |
| aveiga | HenryG: not much we can do about it besides filtering | 15:50 |
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| aveiga | and only some distributions pay attention to RA weighting | 15:50 |
| aveiga | so that's not a silver bullet either | 15:50 |
| baoli | RA can carry both default route and prefixes and the default route can be disabled on RAs if the RA is intended for prefixes and auto config only, I think. | 15:51 |
| aveiga | baoli: right, but then how do you differentiate? | 15:52 |
| aveiga | if I want the route available for some servers but not others, that doesn't work | 15:53 |
| aveiga | it is, unfortunately, all or nothign | 15:53 |
| baoli | aveiga, that's right. The RA is sent to the LAN | 15:54 |
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| aveiga | yep, all nodes multicast address | 15:54 |
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| HenryG | We can't solve all problems in this meeting :) | 15:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | yeah. :) I want to point out that we still don't set M=1 for stateful RAs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148203/ | 15:56 |
| aveiga | HenryG: yup, I just wanted folks to be aware of the consequences of allowing RAs from all subnets for a port | 15:56 |
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| ihrachyshka | I would be glad to see it happened in reasonable time so that we can backport it the next month | 15:56 |
| HenryG | dane_leblanc: Does it make sense to amend the Multiple Prefix spec to add details about address (non)pooling? | 15:57 |
| HenryG | ihrachyshka: sorry | 15:57 |
| dane_leblanc | HenryG: I think the details are there, question is whether they're the correct details. :) | 15:57 |
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| dane_leblanc | HenryG: Specifically for which stateless subnets to include for the 2 cases: fixed_ips included, and fixed_ips not included. | 15:58 |
| dane_leblanc | Oops ^^^ *stateful, not stateless | 15:58 |
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| HenryG | dane_leblanc: Yes, that's what I meant by amending | 15:59 |
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| HenryG | OK, back to ihrachyshka | 16:00 |
| dane_leblanc | HenryG: If we have consensus, I can change/amend | 16:00 |
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| jorgem | o/ | 16:00 |
| aveiga | HenryG: I think time's up | 16:00 |
| dane_leblanc | Times up for IPv6 | 16:00 |
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| ihrachyshka | ok, thanks all for the chat | 16:01 |
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| HenryG | OK, we can talk in the neutron channel | 16:01 |
| HenryG | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 20 16:01:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-01-20-15.05.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-01-20-15.05.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-01-20-15.05.log.html | 16:01 |
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| apmelton_ | Magnum meeting happening? | 16:05 |
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| thomasem | ^^ | 16:06 |
| dguryanov | Hello! | 16:06 |
| sew | o/ | 16:06 |
| jay-lau-513 | hello | 16:06 |
| diga | Digambar Patil | 16:06 |
| jay-lau-513 | I'm asking this in #openstack-containers to see if we have magnum meeting today | 16:07 |
| diga | I think adrian not yet joined | 16:07 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes, I did not see him in #openstack-containers | 16:08 |
| diga | meeting is not set to magnum yet | 16:08 |
| diga | yes\ | 16:08 |
| diga | sdake is there | 16:08 |
| diga | ? | 16:08 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting containers | 16:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 20 16:11:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:11 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:11 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:11 |
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| sdake | howdy yo \o/ | 16:12 |
| apmelton | andrew melton | 16:12 |
| dguryanov | Dmitry Guryanov | 16:12 |
| jay-lau-513 | jay | 16:12 |
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| sew | o/ | 16:12 |
| diga | Digambar Patil | 16:12 |
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| sew | Steven Wilson | 16:12 |
| sdake | so my apologies for hte meeting starting late today - I think adrian must be out with a cold or something and didn't shoot me an email to start the meeting | 16:12 |
| sdake | #topic agenda review | 16:13 |
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| hongbin | Hongbin Lu | 16:13 |
| sdake | looks like the agenda hasn't been updated since last meeting | 16:13 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes | 16:14 |
| sdake | so I propose milestone #1 ready check, followed by milestone #2 assignment of blueprints, followed by open discussion | 16:14 |
| sdake | anyone have anything they like to add? | 16:14 |
| thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 16:14 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:14 |
| sdake | o/ :) | 16:14 |
| jay-lau-513 | Magnum milestone1 announcement? | 16:14 |
| sdake | jay-lau-513 sure we can address that in the ready check | 16:14 |
| jay-lau-513 | ok | 16:14 |
| sew | have dates for a magnum mid-cycle been finalized? | 16:14 |
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| sdake | sew I am not sure, only adrian has that information at this time | 16:15 |
| sdake | sew send me aprivate message with your email, adn i'll send you and him a message so we can find out | 16:15 |
| sew | thx sdake | 16:15 |
| sdake | #topic milestone #1 ready-check | 16:15 |
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| sdake | so my take on the code base is it is pretty solid | 16:16 |
| sdake | I have been trying to break things and it is hard | 16:16 |
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| sdake | the code doesn't behave like I'd like it to entirely - like bay-delete for example | 16:16 |
| sdake | but those are gold plating exercises for later - the key thing is magnum must work out the gate with the quickstart guide we provide | 16:16 |
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| sdake | because seriously poeple are going to give it 30 minutes and if it doesn't work, give up :) | 16:16 |
| sdake | that said, anyone have any objections to raise with being ready? | 16:17 |
| sdake | perhaps a better approach | 16:17 |
| jay-lau-513 | someone might want to contribute patches based on dev quick start :) | 16:17 |
| sdake | can I get a +1/-1 vote from the core team on readiness of magnum for milestone #1 | 16:17 |
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| dims__ | +1 - got for it | 16:17 |
| jay-lau-513 | I'm +1 because I want to attact more people to get involved | 16:18 |
| diga | +1 | 16:18 |
| hongbin | It seems there is no magnum container-create command at the guide | 16:18 |
| sdake | I have not tested container object in much detail | 16:19 |
| sdake | didn't feel comfortable putting in the guide, but we can if we want | 16:19 |
| sdake | but we are running short on time | 16:19 |
| hongbin | k | 16:19 |
| apmelton | sdake: unless it's changed since my patch on it, it required manual setup of docker on the local machine | 16:19 |
| jay-lau-513 | I recalled dims_ did test the container part, at least create works | 16:19 |
| apmelton | I'm not sure we'd really want that in milestone one | 16:19 |
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| diga | I am testing mgnum for container, not yet updated the guide | 16:20 |
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| sdake | diga does container_create work? | 16:20 |
| sdake | without manual test | 16:20 |
| sdake | which manual steps apmelton? | 16:20 |
| diga | Today I have fresh setup of magnum | 16:21 |
| diga | I will test all the command on it | 16:21 |
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| sdake | so I am +1, once the quickstart reviews land in the review queue | 16:21 |
| diga | Not yet tested for container_create | 16:21 |
| sdake | diga we would like to release in a few hours | 16:21 |
| apmelton | sdake: by manual, I mean I had to install docker on the same host as the magnum conductor | 16:22 |
| diga | yes | 16:22 |
| diga | will do it in some time | 16:22 |
| sdake | apmelton to obtain access to a cli or some other tool apmelton? | 16:22 |
| sdake | we have the same nonsense now, with installing kubectl :( | 16:22 |
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| sdake | hey adrian! | 16:23 |
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| sdake | sorry startedmeeting without you | 16:23 |
| jay-lau-513 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143559/ this patch make container_create works | 16:23 |
| sdake | we are on a ready check of milestone #1 | 16:23 |
| sdake | ok sounds like everyone but apmelton is ina greement we should release | 16:24 |
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| hongbin | one more thing for the guide | 16:24 |
| sdake | I am concerned a bit that container functionlaity itself is nto well tested | 16:24 |
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| sdake | hey adrian :) | 16:25 |
| hongbin | I prefer a troubling-shooting session | 16:25 |
| adrianotto1 | Hi | 16:25 |
| adrianotto1 | On an airplane.msorry for delay | 16:25 |
| hongbin | which tell users how to debug the environment setup problem, i.e. networking problem | 16:25 |
| sdake | adrianotto1 thanks for joining us on the plane :) | 16:25 |
| apmelton | sdake: container-create works, just against an ad-hoc docker daemon installed locally | 16:25 |
| sdake | hongbin that sounds great, but does that really need to land for milestone #1? | 16:25 |
| apmelton | or rather, that's how the default config works | 16:26 |
| jay-lau-513 | hongbin sdake I think that we can address this in m2 | 16:26 |
| sdake | apmelton not against the bay's docker containers? | 16:26 |
| sdake | jay-lau-513 agree | 16:26 |
| diga | sdake: it is working | 16:26 |
| apmelton | sdake: unless that's changed | 16:26 |
| diga | just checked | 16:26 |
| sdake | diga where are the containers being created, in bay? | 16:26 |
| hongbin | k | 16:26 |
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| jay-lau-513 | once m1 released, we can attact more contributor and more people will try/contribute | 16:26 |
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| hongbin | sdake: I guess users may need the iptable command you sent me to make the network work. | 16:27 |
| jay-lau-513 | we still have some work to do for dev quick start | 16:27 |
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| sdake | jay-lau-513 for milestone #1? | 16:27 |
| sdake | or you mean in general | 16:27 |
| jay-lau-513 | sdake not m1 but m2+ | 16:28 |
| sdake | think of milestone #1 as the bare minimum needed to get the thing running :) | 16:28 |
| diga | in general | 16:28 |
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| jay-lau-513 | sdake yes | 16:28 |
| sdake | relatively bug free as well | 16:28 |
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| sdake | I mean, we lack good security model, lack vif for services, lack multi-tenancy | 16:28 |
| sdake | etc | 16:28 |
| sdake | these are all things thatcan be sorted out in m2/m3 | 16:28 |
| sdake | so sounds like we are ina greement then that milestone #1 is a go for release once those two reviews land | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto1 | Multi tenancy should be a high priority | 16:29 |
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| sdake | adrian_otto1 I'll go over milestone #2 stuff -but atm I think its "essential" | 16:29 |
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| sdake | this needs +2s/+A's | 16:30 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148549/ | 16:30 |
| sdake | #topic last edits for release announcement | 16:30 |
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| sdake | trying to find link | 16:31 |
| sdake | if anyone has it feel free to paste it ;) | 16:31 |
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| apmelton | sdake: this? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-release | 16:31 |
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| sdake | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-release | 16:32 |
| sdake | thanks apmelton :) | 16:32 |
| sdake | Ok any last edits, now is your chance | 16:32 |
| sdake | adrian_otto1 are you good to tag the release and annoucne it on the ml in 1-2 hrs considering your with snakes on a plane? :) | 16:32 |
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| sdake | adrian_otto1 are you good to adrian_otto1 are you good to tag the release and annoucne it on the ml in 1-2 hrs considering your with snakes on a plane? :)tag the release and annoucne it on the ml in 1-2 hrs considering your with snakes on a plane? :) | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto1 | I can tag it later today and send release announce email | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto1 | If there are key items to include let me know | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto1 | I can wait to merge some last things if desired | 16:34 |
| sdake | adrian_otto1 I'd just stick with the announcement email | 16:34 |
| sdake | ya we have two things to merge - doc fixes | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto1 | Ok, I will be sure to et those in | 16:34 |
| sdake | if anyone wants to wikigarden https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum - that would be spectacular | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto1 | *get | 16:35 |
| sdake | jay pipes was complaining about a lack of documentation :) | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto1 | We shall not disappoint Jay. | 16:35 |
| sdake | ;-) | 16:35 |
| sdake | ok milestone #2 review then | 16:35 |
| sdake | Ok, folks have beenfiling a ton of blueprints | 16:36 |
| sdake | I'm not sure we cn tackle them all in milestone #2 | 16:36 |
| sdake | first things first,when should we conclude milestone #2? | 16:36 |
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| sdake | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 16:37 |
| sdake | kilo 2 is feb 5 kilo 3 is march 19th | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | sdake: you know I'm joking I hope! :) | 16:38 |
| sdake | jaypipes of course ;) | 16:38 |
| jaypipes | heh | 16:38 |
| sdake | ideally it would be nice if we merged schedules with the openstack project by milestone #3 | 16:38 |
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| adrian_otto1 | Agreed | 16:38 |
| sdake | so I thin we should set milestone #3 milestone for march 5th | 16:38 |
| sdake | any -1 on that idea? | 16:38 |
| sdake | rather march 19th | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto1 | +1 | 16:39 |
| sdake | I can't apparently read | 16:39 |
| sdake | kilo 2 is righ taroudn the corner | 16:39 |
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| sdake | we should probably split the difference between now and march 5th | 16:39 |
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| sdake | that puts us at Feb 16 for 1 mo of development | 16:40 |
| sdake | and then 3 weeks for milestone #3 | 16:40 |
| sdake | ok so I just pulled those dates out, does anyone have any alternative propsoal ? | 16:40 |
| sew | adrian_otto1: speaking of dates, have they been finalized for a magnum mid-cycle? | 16:41 |
| sew | should they align with the dates mentioned? | 16:41 |
| sdake | can I get a core vote on the dates Milestone #2 Feb 16th, Milestone #3 march 5th | 16:41 |
| sdake | +1 from me :) | 16:41 |
| sdake | (note milestone #3 merges with the openstack project schedule at this point) | 16:41 |
| jay-lau-513 | +1 | 16:42 |
| sdake | rather march 19th :) | 16:42 |
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| sdake | groan | 16:42 |
| sdake | Milestone #2 Feb 16 - Milestone #3 march 19th | 16:42 |
| sdake | dims__ any thoughts? | 16:42 |
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| sdake | ok well no complaints I guess we will stick with those dates for now | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto1 | This only matters much if we plan to code freeze | 16:43 |
| sdake | yup, we didn't really code freeze for milestone #1 | 16:43 |
| sdake | but we stopped dev for a bit to focus on Q/A :) | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto1 | Otherwise we just need to have a working software deliverable with more features and less bugs than last release | 16:43 |
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| adrian_otto1 | Brb this irc client is jacked | 16:44 |
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| sdake | #topic milestone #2 | 16:44 |
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| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/milestone-2 | 16:44 |
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| sdake | ok we have 15 minutes left in the meeting | 16:44 |
| sdake | I'd like to give 5 for general discussion | 16:45 |
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| sdake | so lets spend next 10 minutes going over essential/high blueprints and seeing if we can find an owner | 16:45 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/multi-tenant | 16:45 |
| sdake | so I think this should be pretty easy - this is essential for milestone #2 | 16:45 |
| sdake | any takers? | 16:46 |
| thomasem | brb | 16:46 |
| jay-lau-513 | I can take multi tenant | 16:46 |
| sdake | cool | 16:46 |
| sdake | I'll put the other couple essentials up here too | 16:46 |
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| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-kubernetes | 16:46 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-bay-status | 16:46 |
| sdake | so secure-kubernetes involves ddoihng some magic with TLS | 16:47 |
| sdake | not quite sure how it works | 16:47 |
| hongbin | I can take the bay status | 16:47 |
| sdake | cool | 16:47 |
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| sdake | go ahead and assign to yourselves then folks | 16:47 |
| thomasem | back | 16:47 |
| jay-lau-513 | hongbin you may want to discuss with yuanying for bay-status :) | 16:47 |
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| hongbin | jay-lau-513: sure | 16:47 |
| jay-lau-513 | hongbin I see he has take it over | 16:47 |
| sdake | anyone up for securing kubernetes? | 16:48 |
| sdake | essential blueprint | 16:48 |
| hongbin | jay-lau-513: then I don't mind to leave it to him | 16:48 |
| jay-lau-513 | hongbin no worry, we can collaborate | 16:48 |
| hongbin | jay-lau-513: sure :) | 16:48 |
| wkharold_ | I'll look @ securing kubernetes | 16:48 |
| jay-lau-513 | hongbin welcome to multi tenant haha | 16:48 |
| sdake | I assigned multi-tenant to jay :) | 16:49 |
| sdake | but you can sortit out later | 16:49 |
| jaypipes | :) | 16:49 |
| sdake | basically I'd like to get all the essential/high assigned to folks | 16:49 |
| sdake | that can commit to doing them in milestone #2 timeframe | 16:49 |
| sdake | if not, we will push stuff down the list | 16:49 |
| diga | asdake: can I get one blueprint to work on | 16:49 |
| wkharold_ | I'm also interested introducing coreos | 16:49 |
| diga | sdake | 16:50 |
| sdake | diga sure let me get to the high's now | 16:50 |
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| diga | ok | 16:50 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/introduce-coreos | 16:50 |
| diga | yes | 16:50 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/ironic-heat-template | 16:50 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/update-node-count | 16:50 |
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| sdake | #Link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-docker-backend-selection | 16:51 |
| sdake | hey yuanying-alt :) | 16:51 |
| sdake | so wkharold_ your interested in tackling coreos? | 16:51 |
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| diga | I am in | 16:51 |
| diga | for coreos | 16:51 |
| sdake | I think it mostly involves writing a heat template | 16:51 |
| apmelton | sdake: I can take docker backend selection | 16:51 |
| sdake | sounds apmelton | 16:51 |
| sdake | can you folks assign yourselves to the blueprints? | 16:51 |
| diga | ok | 16:52 |
| sdake | I don't know everyone's launchpad ids.. | 16:52 |
| wkharold_ | yes | 16:52 |
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| apmelton | sdake: doesn't look like I can change that field, my id is andrew-melton | 16:52 |
| sdake | I've taken two : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/horizontal-scale | 16:52 |
| sdake | these are both large in scope, not sure I can complete both in 1 month time | 16:52 |
| diga | I have taken - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/introduce-coreos | 16:53 |
| wkharold_ | I'm 'wkh' ... a little late to the party sorry | 16:53 |
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| sdake | wkharoid_ which one did you want? | 16:53 |
| diga | hey wkharold- | 16:53 |
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| wkharold_ | secure-kubernetes and/or coreos | 16:54 |
| sdake | coreos is taken but thanks for taking on secure-kubernetes :) | 16:54 |
| wkharold_ | diga: yo | 16:54 |
| wkharold_ | sdake: cool | 16:54 |
| hongbin | sdake: I can take the update node count, and leave the bay status to yuanying | 16:54 |
| sdake | hongbin that sounds great | 16:55 |
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| sdake | remaining HIGHs: | 16:56 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/ironic-heat-template | 16:56 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-scheduler-for-docker | 16:56 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/native-docker-network | 16:56 |
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| sdake | If folks see the recording later, feel free to assign yourselves :) | 16:56 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 16:56 |
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| sdake | so I think milestone #2 looks fairly achieveable - we may have to push some s tuff | 16:57 |
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| sdake | Sorry I left so little time for open discussion - busy day today and got a la te start | 16:57 |
| sdake | is there anything folks would like to discuss? | 16:57 |
| jay-lau-513 | sdake I can take over scheudler, for network, we may need more discussion | 16:57 |
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| diga | I would like to contribute to the scheduler part as well | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto2 | Remember that you can work on any BP | 16:58 |
| jay-lau-513 | diga cool :-) | 16:58 |
| sdake | diga is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-backend-docker-api | 16:58 |
| sdake | finished? | 16:58 |
| diga | :) | 16:58 |
| thomasem | adrian_otto2: any news on the mid-cycle dates? | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto2 | The owner is responsible for reporting the status in our weekly meetings | 16:58 |
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| sdake | ya, blueprints are just a way for the team to know if our goals are achieveable (eg is work assigned and getting done) | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto2 | It does not mean that you are barred from contributing if a BP is assigned to another contributor | 16:59 |
| diga | yes, it was done | 16:59 |
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| sdake | Make sure to mark implemented when finishing a blueprint | 16:59 |
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| diga | ok | 17:00 |
| diga | sure | 17:00 |
| sdake | ok I think tha tis all we have time for, we can overflow in #openstack-containers | 17:00 |
| diga | I will mark as implemented | 17:00 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 20 17:00:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-20-16.11.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-20-16.11.txt | 17:00 |
| sdake | diga I just did | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-01-20-16.11.log.html | 17:00 |
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| diga | ok | 17:00 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting Murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 20 17:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | Hi guys! | 17:00 |
| ruhe | o/ | 17:00 |
| katyafervent | Hi! | 17:00 |
| OndrejVojta | hi | 17:01 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:01 |
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| sergmelikyan | I think I've forgot to record Action Items from previous meeting, but I am pretty sure that we have question about YAQL | 17:01 |
| sergmelikyan | Stan? | 17:02 |
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| katyafervent | Is Stan here? | 17:03 |
| ruhe | i've pinged him | 17:03 |
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| ruhe | i believe it was one of the main action items from the previous meeting :) | 17:04 |
| ruhe | ok. let me cover Stan :) | 17:04 |
| katyafervent | We have no AI, but anyone can suggest topic to discuss later in this meeting | 17:04 |
| ruhe | Here is what I know about progress in yaql: | 17:04 |
| ruhe | 1. Code and spec almost finished | 17:05 |
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| ruhe | 2. Now Stan is fixing remaining issues and bugs | 17:05 |
| ruhe | 3. It should appear on review by EOW | 17:05 |
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| katyafervent | Cool, so on the next week we will be able to review the specification | 17:06 |
| ruhe | yeah, i hope maybe even earlier | 17:06 |
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| ruhe | ok. Stan is still not here. I guess we should move on unless there are questions related to yaql | 17:07 |
| katyafervent | Do you know, after new YAQL will be merged, will Murano require any changes to support new version? | 17:07 |
| katyafervent | Does anyone have questions about YAQL? | 17:08 |
| ruhe | katyafervent: according to Stan there should be some changes in muranopl | 17:08 |
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| dteselkin | Hi | 17:08 |
| katyafervent | Hi dteselkin ! | 17:08 |
| ruhe | which means that versioning support is a must have for Kilo | 17:08 |
| henar | hi | 17:08 |
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| katyafervent | hi henar ! | 17:09 |
| katyafervent | ruhe, yeah, we should support version in in Kilo | 17:09 |
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| katyafervent | *versioning | 17:09 |
| * ruhe is a temporary for sergmelikyan on this meeting :) | 17:10 | |
| ruhe | * temporary substitue | 17:10 |
| ruhe | ok. let's move on | 17:10 |
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| sergmelikyan | :) | 17:10 |
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| ruhe | sergmelikyan: you're back. take the control of the meeting then | 17:11 |
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| sergmelikyan | Let's move on to the next meeting item? | 17:11 |
| sergmelikyan | ruhe, thx :) | 17:11 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Juno 2014.2.1 Release | 17:12 |
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| sergmelikyan | I've found one nasty bug in our Juno release that is main reason for the releasing 2014.2.1 maintenance release | 17:13 |
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| ruhe | can you give us a link? | 17:13 |
| sergmelikyan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1412164 | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | ruhe, sure ^ | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/2014.2.1 | 17:14 |
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| sergmelikyan | Alongside I decided that once we anyway going to release 2014.2.1 we can backport some other fixes there | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | All bugs mentioned on https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/2014.2.1 already backported | 17:15 |
| ruhe | so, that nasty bug affects only upstream testing. it shouldn't affect any existing deployments, unless people deploy productin from pip :) | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | or have already built packages with wrong dependencies | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | btw, another one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1392102 | 17:16 |
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| sergmelikyan | so, do we have any other things that we need to backport? | 17:18 |
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| ruhe | sergmelikyan: i don't have anything else on my mind | 17:19 |
| katyafervent | me too, there are no serious bugs were fixed | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | I plan to release 2014.2.1 in a few days, so if anything critical will be found for Murano Juno, please assign bug for 2014.2.1 | 17:20 |
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| ruhe | ok | 17:23 |
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| sergmelikyan | I have nothing else on agenda, do anyone have anything specific or let's move to the Open Discussion? | 17:24 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:26 |
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| FilipBlaha | Hi Serg and others, we would like to get feedback to our changes. Which was not merged to master | 17:27 |
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| OndrejVojta | i have question about my review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142458, if you had chance to look at it or if you need something from me | 17:28 |
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| FilipBlaha | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147515/ | 17:29 |
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| sergmelikyan | I started reviewing both changes, but had no chance to do it properly, that is why there is no feedback from my side yet | 17:30 |
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| sergmelikyan | Generally they look pretty good, I just like to play with them first before approving | 17:31 |
| OndrejVojta | ok | 17:31 |
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| FilipBlaha | ok, thanks | 17:31 |
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| sergmelikyan | Filip, I see you resolved question about changing configuration of Murano? | 17:32 |
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| FilipBlaha | Murano CI job needs to be modified if we want policy enforcment fuctional tests to be part of Murano CI job | 17:35 |
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| sergmelikyan | dteselkin is responsible for maintenance of Murano CI | 17:35 |
| FilipBlaha | should be policy enforcement functional tests part of Murano CI job? | 17:35 |
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| FilipBlaha | https://github.com/stackforge/murano-deployment there are scripts preparing devstack environment for Murano CI | 17:37 |
| sergmelikyan | I would say there is no reason to duplicate running of same tests on both CI | 17:37 |
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| sergmelikyan | FilipBlaha, yeah, exactly | 17:37 |
| sergmelikyan | We can have more heavy tests on Murano CI | 17:37 |
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| FilipBlaha | I agree so we should add policy enf tests to Murano CI ? | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | Definitely, but later when we will be able to deploy application and verify whole policy enf staff with Mistral and so on | 17:39 |
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| sergmelikyan | I think we should start to cover policy enf with tests on Murano CI when we will have MVP | 17:39 |
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| ruhe | dsvm job is a good starting point, we should keep as much tests there as possible | 17:40 |
| sergmelikyan | +1 | 17:40 |
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| ruhe | and only if it is not possible to add some specific test to dsvm, this test should be considered for Murano CI | 17:41 |
| ruhe | and this case would be the one which requires deployment of murano applications with real-world software | 17:42 |
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| FilipBlaha | I dont know exactly the difference between dsvm and Murano CI tests but we need launch deployment in our tests | 17:45 |
| FilipBlaha | I did not find such test in dsvm tests maybe I missed something | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | Main difference is that Murano CI is running on much more powerfull VMs, where you can do actual deployment | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | That is why we keep deployment-based tests on Murano CI and all other stuff on DSVM | 17:47 |
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| FilipBlaha | so from this point of view should be our tests in Murano CI? | 17:50 |
| sergmelikyan | When they will do real deployment of heavy apps - yes | 17:50 |
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| FilipBlaha | they deploy telnet however deployment is aborted due to policy violation | 17:51 |
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| FilipBlaha | if test goes right way | 17:52 |
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| katyafervent2 | so you dont need to spawn an instance? | 17:53 |
| sergmelikyan | I think in that case is no reason to deploy telnet, you can just create special app that does not spin-up VM | 17:53 |
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| FilipBlaha | Ok I will consider to do it more lightweight. We thank that functional test should do somethink real-world | 17:54 |
| sergmelikyan | OpenStack CI gives only 8 Gb of RAM for VM with DevStack where DSVM tests are running | 17:55 |
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| FilipBlaha | katya: is test goes right way then instance is not created since deployment is aborted by policy enforcement | 17:56 |
| sergmelikyan | It should be more then enough for any tests that are not spawning heavy VMs | 17:56 |
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| sergmelikyan | But enough to spawn VM with Cirros for example | 17:56 |
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| FilipBlaha | ok thanks , I will consider dsvm tests | 17:57 |
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| sergmelikyan | FilipBlaha, np | 17:58 |
| sergmelikyan | Thank you, guys! | 17:58 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 20 17:58:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-01-20-17.00.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-01-20-17.00.txt | 17:58 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 20 21:01:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-01-13_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:02 |
| james_li | james li | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | I haven't updated the agenda | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 21:02 |
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| roshanagr | Roshan Agrawal | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | devdatta | 21:02 |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:02 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:02 |
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| devkulkarni | hey everyone | 21:03 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| devkulkarni | does anyone have any announcements, news to share, etc.? | 21:03 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic review action items | 21:04 |
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| devkulkarni | we had one item which was assigned to adrian | 21:04 |
| devkulkarni | but I haven't heard from him on that. we can carry it forward I guess | 21:05 |
| datsun180b | guess so | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | #action adrian_otto to follow up with mistral devs to arrange a tagged release that we can use as a stable dependency | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | was there any other action item that we remember? | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | if not, we can jump to next topic where I am sure there are several points to discuss | 21:06 |
| datsun180b | i say move ahead | 21:06 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic reviews etc. | 21:06 |
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| devkulkarni | so lots of gate failures in last couple of days | 21:06 |
| gpilz | yes | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: you want to lead us on what you found? | 21:06 |
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| devkulkarni | I can give updates on what I found after you are done datsun180b | 21:07 |
| datsun180b | well today it's just an upstream thing with devstack, that's getting addressed presently | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | do you have a link to the bug and the patch that you can share with us? | 21:07 |
| datsun180b | simple fix, just a matter of playing the openstack red tape game | 21:07 |
| datsun180b | see that's funny, i filed a bug, but there's three reviews attacking it. two of them mention the bug, and the other one is the only one that's approved and being verified presently | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: do you have links to share with us | 21:08 |
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| datsun180b | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148651/ | 21:09 |
| datsun180b | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1412861 | 21:09 |
| datsun180b | i guess our bot is missing | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | looks like the fix was approved | 21:09 |
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| devkulkarni | what do we need to do for our gate to pick it up? my guess is probably nothing.. | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | right? | 21:10 |
| datsun180b | yes, it's devstack | 21:10 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: thanks for catching this one.. | 21:10 |
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| devkulkarni | although I don't think the failures from yesterday have anything to do with this change | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | am I right? | 21:11 |
| datsun180b | right, this only showed up this morning | 21:11 |
| datsun180b | before that, i can't remember. something about cinder and six? | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | right. good that you picked it up and pursued it | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | cinder and six | 21:11 |
| devkulkarni | so here is the latest on it. | 21:12 |
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| devkulkarni | since yesterday we are seeing devstack gate failing on cinder-manage | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | the error shows up as something related to oslo.utils | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | which in turn depends on the package six. | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni | I googled for the failure and the suggested resolution was to bump up the version of six | 21:13 |
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| devkulkarni | for us, the version is 1.7.0 | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni | global requirements is also at that version | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni | so we cannot bump it any further for now | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | I chatted with folks on the cinder irc channel | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | i was informed that this error has been showing up only in solum | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | so we decided to recreate it with a test patch | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni | and the test patch is now failing for a different reason on the gate (this has to do with tempest issue) | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | mkam has submitted a patch to fix the tempest issue | 21:15 |
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| devkulkarni | when that merges, we will be able to know whether the test-patch would retrigger the cinder six issue | 21:15 |
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| devkulkarni | until then our devstack gate will be in the current state (which is broken) | 21:15 |
| gpilz | :(( | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | yeah.. sorry about that gpilz.. can't do much at this point | 21:16 |
| gpilz | it is what it is | 21:16 |
| datsun180b | it'll take just a little longer for the fix to merge | 21:16 |
| datsun180b | i'm watching it intently | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | if we can get mkam's patch move forward quickly | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | it will be awesome | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | looks like it failed again | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | #link http://logs.openstack.org/99/148699/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/6eeca51/console.html | 21:17 |
| datsun180b | want to see my johnny carson impression? "devstack failure about local messages" | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | looks like there is more to tempest change than what mkam has submitted | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | mkam: you around? | 21:18 |
| datsun180b | well how about that, those failures are on us after all | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | which ones? | 21:19 |
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| devkulkarni | they seem to be from tempest_lib/common/rest_client | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | lets circle back on this topic in open discussion | 21:20 |
| mkam | I can look into it more | 21:20 |
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| devkulkarni | mkam: thanks | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | any other reviews that folks want to discuss? | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | if not lets move to next topic.. | 21:22 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic open discussion | 21:23 |
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| datsun180b | well the devstack thing merged | 21:23 |
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| gpilz | I have a good idea what those errors in test_assembly are about | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: now, until we get tempest issues fixed we won't know whether cinder+oslo+six issues are real | 21:24 |
| gpilz | they stem from a bug I submitted against the rest_client | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: do you have a link handy? | 21:25 |
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| gpilz | not handy | 21:25 |
| gpilz | one sec … | 21:25 |
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| gpilz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1407140 | 21:27 |
| datsun180b | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1407140 | 21:28 |
| datsun180b | oh right, the bot | 21:28 |
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| gpilz | hmmmm | 21:28 |
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| gpilz | that doesn't make sense though | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: so what is your suggestion that we do on our side? | 21:28 |
| gpilz | the test expects BadRequest and rest_client is throwing BadRequest | 21:29 |
| gpilz | I don't get it | 21:29 |
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| devkulkarni | specifically, I am wondering how to address that 'BadRequest' | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | yeah | 21:29 |
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| devkulkarni | why would 'Details: The request is malformed. Reason: Plan is invalid. An error occurred during YAML parsing. Error position: (1:1)" this show up? | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | nothing changed on the API or the tests or the plan format | 21:30 |
| devkulkarni | is this related to stannie42's patches which were merged recently? | 21:30 |
| gpilz | I've seen similar code which worked around the bug in rest_client by asserting that UnexpectedResponseCode would be thrown when, in fact, BadRequest should have been thrown | 21:30 |
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| datsun180b | without seeing the content of the planfile i can't be sure | 21:30 |
| datsun180b | whatever it is, it doesn't like the first character | 21:31 |
| gpilz | the planfile is {} | 21:31 |
| gpilz | functionaltests.api.v1.test_assembly.TestAssemblyController.test_assemblies_create_none - right? | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | yeah, that is the first one in the series | 21:32 |
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| datsun180b | is '{}' valid yaml? | 21:33 |
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| datsun180b | looks like it is | 21:34 |
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| gpilz | it is, but the YAML parser we're using raises an exception when it tries to parse "{}" | 21:34 |
| gpilz | there are tests against the "plans" resource that depend on the same behavior | 21:35 |
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| devkulkarni | actually for test_assemblies_create_none, the failure we are getting is "Details: {u'debuginfo': None, u'faultcode': u'Client', u'faultstring': u"Invalid input for field/attribute name. Value: 'None'. Mandatory field missing."}" | 21:35 |
| datsun180b | what's type safety | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | this is not yaml error | 21:35 |
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| gpilz | https://github.com/stackforge/solum/blob/master/functionaltests/api/v1/test_plan.py#L92 | 21:36 |
| gpilz | isn't that ^^^ exactly the same test? | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | seems reasonable | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | yes the test input is same. but the error is not yaml parsing error in case of test_asemblies_create_none | 21:37 |
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| devkulkarni | anyways. point is, | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | all these tests have been passing | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | all along. | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | so most likely something that changed in tempest_lib is now causing these failures.. | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | what's our plan to resolve this? | 21:39 |
| datsun180b | we dig | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | +1 | 21:39 |
| gpilz | nothing else we can do | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | mkam | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | lets work on this together.. | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | if you hear about any other folks seeing such errors from tempest that would be great to know | 21:40 |
| gpilz | I'm at an ISO meeting for the rest of today | 21:40 |
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| gpilz | i'll be able to pitch in tomorrow (if you haven't figured it out by then) | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: sounds like a plan | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | hi adrian_otto | 21:41 |
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| devkulkarni | quick update for you | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | hi devkulkarni | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | our gates are currently broken. we are working on resolving the issues (we don't yet what the issue is) | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | there are guesses, but no clear answer | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | have we touched base with the Infra team for guidance? | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | no, not yet | 21:42 |
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| devkulkarni | we reached out to cinder folks, devstack folks, and tempest folks | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | we found out issues arising in each of those | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | are they also impacted? | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | don't know.. our issues are showing up in those three projects | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | i mean on our devstack gates | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | those are the projects that are failing | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | sounds like devstack is the common thread there | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b found a bug this morning in devstack | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | which has now been fixed in the upstream | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | now we are wading through bunch of tempest changes | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | does that require us to rebase anything? | 21:44 |
| datsun180b | no, it was in devstack | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | no, nothing needs to be done on our side | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | ok, because we don't pull any of that in | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | right | 21:44 |
| datsun180b | i found it because of my habit of burning my vm down and starting from scratch in the morning | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | something we should probably continue! | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | possibly as an automated process | 21:45 |
| devkulkarni | right now, fixing tempest issues is our priority | 21:45 |
| datsun180b | that alias is of course 'nero' | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:45 |
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| devkulkarni | once that is fixed, we will get to the issues that we were facing in cinder+six (package) | 21:46 |
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| devkulkarni | so the plan is for bunch of us to concentrate on fixing tempest issues right now. | 21:46 |
| devkulkarni | .. and that is where we were in the discussion just before you joined us | 21:46 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for the ramp up. | 21:46 |
| datsun180b | yeah, i'm about ready to put down one set of spinning plates to dive into this | 21:47 |
| devkulkarni | cool.. that will be really helpful datsun180b | 21:47 |
| devkulkarni | lets coordinate with mkam to quickly resolve this | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | tempest broke our gates last week too, right? | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | is this a continuation of those problems? | 21:48 |
| datsun180b | probably! where's my pitchfork | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | yeah.. today's problem is because they changed the rest library that they are using | 21:48 |
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| devkulkarni | they moved it to a separate library | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | and looks like they might have added stricter input checking | 21:49 |
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| devkulkarni | which is leading to some of our tests that have empty inputs (such as "{ | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | "{} | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | to fail | 21:49 |
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| gpilz | but the test that is failing is expecting BadRequest and BadRequest is being thrown | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | so we might have to modify some of our test cases | 21:49 |
| adrian_otto | any way for us to pin to an older version of tempest? | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | good question. | 21:50 |
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| datsun180b | i don't think we get to pick which tempest we use via test-reqs | 21:50 |
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| devkulkarni | we could do that | 21:50 |
| gpilz | unless, for some reason, exception.BadRequest in the rest_client is not lining up with tempest_exceptions.BadRequest in the test code? | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: very possible | 21:50 |
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| devkulkarni | the types won't match | 21:50 |
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| gpilz | the patch that i have in the queue depends upon a later version of the rest_client | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: you are probably right | 21:50 |
| gpilz | if you use the version prior to the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1407140 | 21:51 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: we might have to check with openstack-qa or openstack-infr folks on how to use specific version of tempest | 21:51 |
| gpilz | a lot of my plan tests (and some Solum plant tests) will fail | 21:51 |
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| devkulkarni | solum folks: can we hold off sending patches for now | 21:52 |
| datsun180b | i bet there's an argument to be made about solidarity/consistency across projects | 21:52 |
| gpilz | i can | 21:52 |
| datsun180b | devkulkarni: glad i submitted two patches like 90 seconds ago | 21:52 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: my comment was upon seeing those patches :D | 21:52 |
| akshayc | :) | 21:53 |
| datsun180b | hey i told kebray "today" and i meant it | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | we don't want zuul to keep its queue full when we know that gates are broken | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | acked datsun180b | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | but for now, lets hold off on any more patch submissions | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | okay, now that we have that covered | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | lets quickly go back to the tempest version discussion | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | how/can we pin the version | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | hi akshayc | 21:54 |
| akshayc | hi | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | anyone want to follow up with either openstack-infra or openstack-qa folks to find out how to do that? | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | I can check that | 21:55 |
| devkulkarni | anything else we should discuss today? 5 minute warning. | 21:55 |
| akshayc | FYI, I have updated solum wiki | 21:55 |
| datsun180b | nice | 21:56 |
| akshayc | to include links for 2015 meetings | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: cool.. what changes did you make? | 21:56 |
| akshayc | meeting archives* | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | oh cool | 21:56 |
| datsun180b | that reminds me, anyone have a clue how to update our readthedocs pages? adrian_otto ? | 21:56 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks for doing that akshayc | 21:56 |
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| devkulkarni | oh thats right, thanks for bringing that up datsun180b | 21:56 |
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| gpilz | they moved rest_client to tempest_lib | 21:56 |
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| devkulkarni | right gpil | 21:57 |
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| devkulkarni | thats what mkam's patch was supposed to fix on our end | 21:57 |
| datsun180b | i'm making some fun cosmetic changes to the cli to make it easier to manage stuff without having to understand plans and assemblies and whatnot | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: cool | 21:57 |
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| devkulkarni | okay.. ending the meeting.. see you next week | 21:58 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 21:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 20 21:58:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-01-20-21.01.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-01-20-21.01.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-01-20-21.01.log.html | 21:59 |
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