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| sc68cal | hello | 15:00 |
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| ihrachyshka | o/ | 15:01 |
| dane_leblanc | o/ | 15:01 |
| SridharG | hello | 15:01 |
| xuhanp | hello | 15:01 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 15:01:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:01 |
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| aveiga | o/ | 15:01 |
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| * sc68cal grabs a cup of coffee real quick | 15:02 | |
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| sc68cal | So last week we got xuhanp 's patch landed for K-2 | 15:05 |
| xuhanp | thanks for everyone's review! | 15:05 |
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| sc68cal | #topic blueprints | 15:06 |
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| sc68cal | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-3 Kilo 3 blueprints | 15:07 |
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| sc68cal | 53 blueprints targeted for K-3. Whew! | 15:07 |
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| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, a lot of them just failed to merge in their slots | 15:07 |
| ihrachyshka | (some of kilo-2 stuff is not even started yet) | 15:08 |
| sc68cal | ihrachyshka: agreed - however it always gets chaotic in the last milestone, everyone's trying to get their stuff merged. | 15:08 |
| ihrachyshka | ..and half of them fail | 15:08 |
| sc68cal | personally I hate the last milestone - I like skipping it and just going for the first of the new release | 15:09 |
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| sc68cal | Anyway, for those slated for K-3, I salute you! | 15:09 |
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| sc68cal | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipv6-prefix-delegation IPv6 PD support | 15:10 |
| sc68cal | baoli: how goes progres? | 15:10 |
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| sc68cal | guess he's not on. dane_leblanc, are you online? | 15:12 |
| dane_leblanc | sc68cal: Hi | 15:12 |
| sc68cal | I saw you pushed a new patchset for your multiple prefix support | 15:12 |
| dane_leblanc | Yes, it's still marked as WIP, but I'm going to remove that soon. | 15:12 |
| dane_leblanc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149068/ | 15:13 |
| dane_leblanc | It's quite large. | 15:13 |
| dane_leblanc | I still have some Tempest tests failing (LBaaS), but I'm closing in on getting that running. | 15:13 |
| dane_leblanc | There is one earlier patchset that needs a small change after discussing with baoli | 15:14 |
| dane_leblanc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113339/ | 15:14 |
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| sc68cal | Cool, I'll probably sit down and read through it - nice job though, fixing the L3 agent's port structure. | 15:14 |
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| dane_leblanc | And 2 more smaller patchsets coming, one from dboik | 15:14 |
| sc68cal | pain in the rear | 15:14 |
| dane_leblanc | Big pain. | 15:14 |
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| dane_leblanc | It's like fixing plumbing in an old house, touch one thing, and it leads to more bad stuff. | 15:15 |
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| dane_leblanc | I'm hoping I'm doing the right things in 149068. | 15:16 |
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| sc68cal | yeah as you know I started poking at it too, basically to catch up to you in terms of understanding, and that's totally true | 15:16 |
| dane_leblanc | Yes, I'm glad that we were like minded in what needed to change. | 15:16 |
| sc68cal | I think you're totally on the right track :) | 15:16 |
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| sc68cal | I cheated though because when I got stuck I was like "ahhh, dane_leblanc probably has it all figured out" | 15:17 |
| dane_leblanc | :) Gee, thanks. | 15:17 |
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| baoli | sc68cal: we are making some progress on PD | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | baoli: very cool | 15:19 |
| baoli | one issue we have is that the dibbler client is not geared to support the cloud environment such as running inside the neutron router. So we have to enhance it. | 15:20 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: oh? tell me more! | 15:20 |
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| baoli | Dibbler is designed to run, pre configured, and on a single host | 15:21 |
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| carl_baldwin | baoli: I wouldn’t take enhancing a dependency like that lightly. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | baoli: The lead time required to get a new version of it in to distributions is pretty large. | 15:22 |
| haleyb | +1 took the words out of my mouth :) | 15:22 |
| baoli | carl_baldwin, I agree | 15:22 |
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| baoli | but we are getting closer to have an end-to-end run. | 15:24 |
| dane_leblanc | We've chatted about alternatively doing a roll our own simpler version of dibbler, but that's last resort, I think. | 15:24 |
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| baoli | dane_leblanc, do you mean writing the dhcpv6 client from scratch? | 15:25 |
| dane_leblanc | Yes. Minimal, if that's possible. | 15:25 |
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| sc68cal | having a way to do bit twiddling for ipv6 would be useful - xuhanp needs something like that for NDP proxy | 15:27 |
| sc68cal | plus markmcclain and i had an interesting convo way back in atlanta about some crazy ideas :) | 15:27 |
| dane_leblanc | baoli, though with only ~3 weeks left, I don't think building from scratch is feasible. | 15:30 |
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| sc68cal | probably not | 15:32 |
| sc68cal | baoli: do you think you could write up your findings and share on the ML? I'd like to know more of the background if possible | 15:34 |
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| baoli | sc68cal, sure | 15:34 |
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| sc68cal | just to clarify, it's when it's running as a client, or a server that you're seeing issues? | 15:35 |
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| baoli | sc68cal, we need a client initially that supports PD. We are trying to integrate the server into neutron yet. | 15:36 |
| baoli | s/are/are not | 15:36 |
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| baoli | So the client needs to be able to take new requests whenever they come. | 15:37 |
| sc68cal | did you guys evaluate WIDE-DHCPv6? | 15:38 |
| baoli | sc68cal, took a brief look at it as well, and it doesn't seem to support that either. | 15:38 |
| sc68cal | are you sure? I'm using it on my home gateway to do PD | 15:39 |
| sc68cal | I can share configs. I've been sort of meaning to do a writeup on how to do ipv6 home gateways with freebsd | 15:39 |
| baoli | sc68cal, do you have to pre configure it? what happens when you try to change the configuration? | 15:39 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: Here's the client config for PD - https://gist.github.com/sc68cal/73c29b55e05281a0b44c | 15:40 |
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| sc68cal | it just specifies which interface to send the PD on, and which interface to add the PD to | 15:41 |
| sc68cal | so em0 is my gateway port, alc0 is my LAN port, pretty much what we're looking to do on the neutron router | 15:41 |
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| baoli | sc68cal, the issue is how to change the config when change occures in the router, so that the client can take proper actions. | 15:42 |
| sc68cal | I think all you'd need to do is SIGHUP wide-dhcp6c so it sends another PD request | 15:43 |
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| baoli | sc68cal, I checked the doc, and it says that the existing lease will be released with SIGHUP | 15:43 |
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| sc68cal | when you say config changes ooccur, like what kinds of config changes? | 15:43 |
| baoli | sc68cal, so although it support SIGHUP, it doesn't do what we need to do. | 15:44 |
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| sc68cal | address changes? | 15:44 |
| baoli | sc68cal, subnet for PD is added at run time, and it can happen any time. | 15:44 |
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| sc68cal | right, but there is some interaction between the Neutron server and an API user that would cause that address change, right? | 15:45 |
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| baoli | sc68cal, each pd-enabled subnet needs a prefix from the delegating server, right? | 15:47 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: correct | 15:48 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: is there more? I'd like to catch up to you guys in understanding | 15:52 |
| baoli | sc68cal, that's all, basically we need to enhance the client so that it can support dynamic requests. without it, we can have very limited functionality initially. | 15:53 |
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| sc68cal | when you say dynamic requests, do you mean if the prefix being delgated to the neturon router changes? | 15:55 |
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| sc68cal | or something else? | 15:55 |
| haleyb | i thought with dibbler you could request the prefix too | 15:56 |
| baoli | sc68cal, I'm not sure we are on the same page. Do you mean to say that one neutron router needs one prefix only? | 15:57 |
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| sc68cal | yeah, we may not be on the same page - maybe we should do a phone call to help me understand more :) | 15:58 |
| SridharG | team, please review the following patch and share your views "reg: changing the exception from TypeError to ValueError". Thanks. | 15:59 |
| SridharG | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137774/9/oslo_utils/netutils.py | 15:59 |
| sc68cal | SridharG: will do | 16:00 |
| sc68cal | looks like that's all the time we have | 16:00 |
| sc68cal | until next week! | 16:00 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 16:00:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-02-10-15.01.html | 16:00 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 17:00:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
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| sergmelikyan | Hi :) | 17:00 |
| ruhe | o/ | 17:00 |
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| katyafervent | o/ | 17:01 |
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| gokrokve | o/ | 17:02 |
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| RadekPospisil | o/ | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:03 |
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| StanLagun | o/ | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | #1 katyafervent, research more about log/exception localization | 17:04 |
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| katyafervent | I sent an email with my research | 17:04 |
| katyafervent | And created a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/organize-translation | 17:05 |
| katyafervent | So if no objections, we should implement it in kilo | 17:05 |
| katyafervent | The conclusion is: debug log and exceptions are not translatable | 17:05 |
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| katyafervent | But other log levels need to be translated | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | Ok, thank you | 17:07 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:07 |
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| sergmelikyan | Today we had once again issues with DSVM job, it's failed due to changes in devstack :( | 17:07 |
| ruhe | honestly, i've never understood the purpose of translated logs. but, i guess some people need them. so +1 for katyafervent's proposal | 17:08 |
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| henar | hi all | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | ruhe, same with me... I am not sure that we will provide translations right away, but at least it is better to support | 17:09 |
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| pashkin | Hi | 17:09 |
| sergmelikyan | Hi, henar! | 17:09 |
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| sergmelikyan | Returning to the issues with DSVM... | 17:09 |
| sergmelikyan | They removed tempest requirements installation: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/220e6e73d8c998ed575fb99fe454a27c665a3a6a | 17:10 |
| StanLagun | I don't understand it either. Why not postpone it until someone actually understand it or at least someone ask for it? | 17:10 |
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| sergmelikyan | StanLagun, we anyway need to migrate to i18n | 17:10 |
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| sergmelikyan | https://review.openstack.org/154490 <- fix for DSVM | 17:11 |
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| StanLagun | sergmelikyan: there are a lot of things that need to be done and 99% of them is more urgent than something nobody sees a need for | 17:11 |
| StanLagun | so just leave it until a better day | 17:12 |
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| sergmelikyan | StanLagun, I don't agree, I don't thing that we need to drop everything and start implementing it, but code should be maintained constantly, and this is part of maintenance | 17:14 |
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| katyafervent | I have a couple of blueprint, that need to be discussed | 17:17 |
| katyafervent | We need to define, should we track them or not | 17:17 |
| katyafervent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/stop-deploy-during-the-deployment | 17:17 |
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| StanLagun | that is a bug that was solved long time ago | 17:19 |
| sergmelikyan | StanLagun, we can stop deployment? | 17:19 |
| katyafervent | but we don't have special button for that? | 17:19 |
| StanLagun | With introduction of timeouts the only way for a deployment to last forever is to enter endless loop or deadlock | 17:19 |
| StanLagun | so it is possible in theory but never happened in practice | 17:20 |
| katyafervent | but there is no opportunity to stop the deployment at any moment | 17:20 |
| katyafervent | the question is will we support it or this feature is not needed? | 17:20 |
| StanLagun | and no? we cannot stop hanged deployment from outside, but workfloaw itself can stop it by throwing exception | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | Yeah, right. Sorry, I meant that we probably need to update BP to define way how to stop deployment manually at any given point of time | 17:21 |
| StanLagun | sergmelikyan: Does somebody know how to do it? | 17:21 |
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| katyafervent | this question should be asked later | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | Checking DB for some specific flag, and throw exception to stop deployment? | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | But Kate actually correct | 17:22 |
| katyafervent | so let's track that, if we pick it for a milestone, we'll think how implement that | 17:22 |
| StanLagun | this BP will be relevant if it will be accompanied with spec saying how to do this | 17:22 |
| StanLagun | checking DB will not solve | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | We can think about later, I don't think that we should assign this BP for nearest milestone | 17:22 |
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| katyafervent | The next is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/simulated-execution-mode-murano-engine | 17:23 |
| StanLagun | imagine endless loop in MuranoPL that hangs the only engine's thread and never switches | 17:23 |
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| sergmelikyan | This is really more like corner case | 17:24 |
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| katyafervent | Stan what do you think? should we track that blueprint? | 17:26 |
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| StanLagun | katyafervent: I was the one who asked for this BP in the first place | 17:28 |
| StanLagun | so yes | 17:28 |
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| StanLagun | it is extremely useful but it is not completely clear how to achieve it. It requires some bright ideas | 17:29 |
| katyafervent | Ok, so keep it, may be we find someone who will implement this :) | 17:30 |
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| katyafervent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/admin-rights-restriction | 17:31 |
| katyafervent | On the one hand, admins can have rights to delete the whole tenant | 17:32 |
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| katyafervent | should admins be able to delete private packages from different tenants? | 17:33 |
| StanLagun | only admins in "admin" tenant | 17:33 |
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| katyafervent | and is it more like a bug, or may be used as blueprint? | 17:34 |
| StanLagun | there must be someone that able to do that. But it cannot be someone other that whole OpenStack installation admin (cloud operator) | 17:34 |
| StanLagun | katyafervent: can you explain what do you mean there by "admin users"? | 17:35 |
| StanLagun | I just don't know if tenant admins exist at all | 17:35 |
| katyafervent | but we do not determine cloud operator in the code | 17:35 |
| katyafervent | we only looking for admin in the context | 17:36 |
| katyafervent | that's may be our problem | 17:36 |
| StanLagun | what is a criteria for user beeing an admin? | 17:36 |
| katyafervent | we can think more about it and describe it blueprint | 17:36 |
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| katyafervent | role assigned in keystone | 17:39 |
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| sergmelikyan | Looks like no other questions left? | 17:47 |
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| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting murano | 17:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 17:50:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-02-10-17.00.html | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-02-10-17.00.txt | 17:50 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 21:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-02-10_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:00 |
| ravips | Ravi Sankar Penta | 21:00 |
| roshanagr | Roshan Agrawal | 21:01 |
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| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:01 |
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| adrian_otto | hello devkulkarni ravips roshanagr datsun180b and james_li | 21:02 |
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| roshanagr | Hi adrian_otto | 21:02 |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:03 |
| devkulkarni | hi adrian_otto | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | hi muralia | 21:03 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's begin | 21:03 |
| james_li | Hi adrian_otto | 21:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:03 | |
| muralia | Hi adrian | 21:03 |
| adrian_otto | for the next 3 meetings I will be away | 21:03 |
| adrian_otto | Those dates are: 2015-02-17, 2015-02-24, and 2015-03-03. Our chair will be: devkulkarni | 21:04 |
| dimtruck | \o | 21:04 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:04 |
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| adrian_otto | This friday I am going on Vacation through the following friday, followed by two conferences | 21:04 |
| devkulkarni | glad to lead the meetings on those days | 21:04 |
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| adrian_otto | so I will be checking email, but generally not around on IRC much during that time. | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | thanks devkulkarni. I appreciate it! | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 21:05 |
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| adrian_otto | I submitted a talk for Vancouver ODS for Solum. | 21:06 |
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| adrian_otto | once the voting ink becomes available I will share that with you. | 21:06 |
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| muralia | nice | 21:06 |
| dimtruck | awesome! | 21:06 |
| james_li | cool | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | I'm looking forward to giving you all credit for all the awesome work you've completed in this cycle. | 21:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:07 |
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| adrian_otto | we did not have any last week. | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Administrative | 21:07 |
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| adrian_otto | several of you have noticed -1 votes on your review submissions for administrative reasons | 21:07 |
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| adrian_otto | the purpose of this is to give more complete visibility to what is included as we cut releases | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | Please include links to "Implements blueprint BLUEPRINT" or "Closes-Bug: #NNNN" on the last line of the commit message. | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | if you notice a review without one of these, please vote -1 and request that it be added. | 21:08 |
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| adrian_otto | if there is not a bug ticket already, you can file one yourself | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | NOTE: The bug does not need to be previously approved to be linked to a review. | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | questions or concerns about this? | 21:09 |
| datsun180b | sounds reasonable | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | sounds fine | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, if this ends up causing unreasonable friction for whatever reason, let's revisit it. | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for your help with this. | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 21:10 |
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| adrian_otto | before I dive into specific work items | 21:10 |
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| adrian_otto | I want to mention that our gates are all complaining about a missing library for tempest | 21:11 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck fixed the issue recently | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | from what I have seen the devstack job is failing on allpatches | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | oh? | 21:11 |
| dimtruck | correct | 21:11 |
| dimtruck | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154650/ | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | please elaborate | 21:11 |
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| dimtruck | we now need this in our run_tests.sh: | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I will happily order rechecks on open reviews once that merges | 21:12 |
| dimtruck | pip install -r $TEMPEST_DIR/requirements.txt | 21:12 |
| dimtruck | to install latest requirements | 21:12 |
| dimtruck | that was able to successfully pass jenkins | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | dimtruck: thanks for the fix!! | 21:12 |
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| dimtruck | other projects (murano) did the same | 21:12 |
| dimtruck | there was a nice chain about it at openstack-qa | 21:13 |
| james_li | Thanks dimtruck | 21:13 |
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| dimtruck | np | 21:13 |
| roshanagr | dumtruck rocks! | 21:13 |
| roshanagr | dimtruck | 21:13 |
| dimtruck | that way i can get my 2 month old patch in as well :) | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | also, I want to highlight that we held a short debate yesterday about how to address storage constraints on the build node caused by accumulated git repos and DU images | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1419978 | 21:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419978 in Solum "Delete LP Images and repos when storage is low" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | that's the resolution we agreed to. | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | muralia submitted revisions to the open reviews in accordance with this decision | 21:14 |
| muralia | yes | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | thanks muralia | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: did you see my comment on them? | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | any further discussion on this topic? | 21:14 |
| muralia | not yet | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni | ok. we can discuss it on the patch itself | 21:15 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, that was a good compromise I thought. | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | any other work items we should discuss as a team today? | 21:16 |
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| roshanagr | adrian_otto, I made roadmap cleanup | 21:16 |
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| roshanagr | worth reviewing? | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | thanks roshanagr | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | yes, we have time for that | 21:16 |
| roshanagr | Also, have documentation for new cli | 21:16 |
| roshanagr | cool | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | have the link handy? | 21:16 |
| roshanagr | I cleaned up high level roadmap | 21:17 |
| roshanagr | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap#Milestone:_Kilo | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | use #link LINK DESC | 21:17 |
| roshanagr | #https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap#Milestone:_Kilo High Level Roadmap | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap#Milestone:_Kilo | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap#Milestone:_Kilo Roadmap | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's dig in! | 21:17 |
| roshanagr | will give it a few minutes for folks to take a look | 21:18 |
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| ravips | new cli looks great, minor suggestion..can we do 'solum app deploy <app_name>' instead of 'solum app deploy --name <app_name>' that will make it consistent with solum app build/show/delete | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | well done roshanagr | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | ravips: agreed, because name is required and can not be confused with other options. | 21:20 |
| datsun180b | ravips: i think name's supposed to be required, yes | 21:20 |
| roshanagr | thanks adrian_otto. | 21:20 |
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| roshanagr | ravips: makes sense | 21:21 |
| roshanagr | I will reflect that change | 21:21 |
| ravips | roshanagr: awesome, doc was very easy to understand | 21:21 |
| roshanagr | cool, thanks ravips | 21:21 |
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| adrian_otto | So when would you like to tag a new release? | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | maybe this week? | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good to me | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | kilo2 is scheduled to land now | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | and March 19 for kilo3 | 21:23 |
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| adrian_otto | Kilo release is scheduled for April 30 | 21:23 |
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| adrian_otto | is it reasonable to expect that we will complete the roadmap items by then? | 21:23 |
| adrian_otto | May 21 is the OpenStack Design Summit | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | seems possible | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | we have not divided different features into kilo-1, 2, 3 | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | ok, anyone worried that it's too much? | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | well we are at kilo2 now | 21:25 |
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| adrian_otto | so I am going to merge in open reviews, and tag kilo2 | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | but by April 30 it should be probably okay | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | so it's what we can do between now and April 30 | 21:25 |
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| devkulkarni | right | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | the official OpenStack feature freeze is March 19 | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | for Kilo3? that might not be possible to reach | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | so if we tracked with that, we would resolve bugs (defects and tech debt) until April 30. | 21:26 |
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| roshanagr | devkulkarni: what would you propose we cut from scope for kilo | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | we could revisit it in March | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | to decide whether to do a feature freeze or not | 21:27 |
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| roshanagr | adrian_otto: +1 | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | right now, I think we should not change | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | but towards mid March we should re-evaluate | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll make a note on our meeting agenda (I can set up a few agendas in advance) | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to schedule follow-up discussion for mid-March to determine when a feature freeze should be applied. Should it be March 19? | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:30 |
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| adrian_otto | I have one topic for this section | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | relating to inactive core reviewers | 21:30 |
| devkulkarni | I suggest we consider either March 17 or 24 | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | traditionally core reviewers that have been inactive for a long time are polled by the PTL to ask if they have a continued interest in the project | 21:30 |
| devkulkarni | those are Tuesdays (our meeting days) | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | and if not, the PTL proposes to remove them from the core group | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | would you like me to initiate this process, as we have several members of that group | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | ? | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | anyone in particular? | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | seems like logical step | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | given that folks have not been active | 21:32 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: ok, we can tentatively discuss the feature freeze again on March 17 | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | does anyone feel we should keep inactive cores around? | 21:32 |
| roshanagr | + 1 on inactive core reviewers | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | roshanagr: to be clear you are supporting a purge, correct? | 21:33 |
| roshanagr | yes | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | any other thoughts? | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | would you like me to record this as an #agreed, or as an action item? | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | or perhaps both | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | +1 | 21:34 |
| datsun180b | sounds like an action item | 21:34 |
| roshanagr | probably both | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | I'm not hearing any arguments to the contrary | 21:34 |
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| datsun180b | alternatively, i'm not seeing any other votes in favor | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | so I think a #agreed is appropriate. The reason for my question is that we have not purged in a long time, so I wanted to be confident that the current core group feels comfortable. | 21:35 |
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| devkulkarni | folks can be re-included again when they get back into the rhythm of the project | 21:35 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, they can. | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | in fact anyone interested in joining core is welcome to contact me for guidance about how to accomplish that. | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | I'm happy to help with that. | 21:36 |
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| devkulkarni | yes, I think the current group of core is very comfortable with the form and shape of the project (as it stands) and where it needs to evolve | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed We will contact inactive core group members, and ask if they want to continue as part of that group, or be proposed for removal. | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to contact inactive core reviewers to ask if they want to continue as part of that group, or be proposed for removal. | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we are in open discussion. I have no more topics for you :-) | 21:37 |
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| adrian_otto | if there is nothing more to discuss we can adjourn. I'll wait a bit. | 21:39 |
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| roshanagr | adios. good meeting | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is 2015-02-17 at 2100 UTC | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | take care! | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | later | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 21:40:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-02-10-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-02-10-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-02-10-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 10 22:01:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-02-10_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
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| apmelton | Andrew Melton | 22:01 |
| sdake | o/ steak here | 22:01 |
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| wkharold | wkharold | 22:01 |
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| pradk | o/ | 22:01 |
| yuanying-alt | OTSUKA Yuanying | 22:01 |
| rpothier | o/ | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | good morning Yuanying | 22:02 |
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| thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 22:02 |
| thomasem | o/ | 22:02 |
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| adrian_otto | and hello apmelton sdake wkharold pradk rpothier and thomasem | 22:03 |
| thomasem | howdy | 22:03 |
| thomasem | Sorry I missed last week's. Was knee deep in a production issue. | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | thomasem: np. We have a lot on the agenda today, so let's get started… | 22:03 |
| hongbin | Hongbin Lu | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | hi hongbin | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | (1) adrian_otto will be away on 2015-02-17 and 2015-02-24 for our 1600 UTC meeting. Our pro-tem chair will be sdake for these two meetings. | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | the week after that is our Midcycle meetup | 22:04 |
| sdake | yar | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | should we hold an IRC meeting or not? | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | I marked the calendar as no meeting for 2015-03-03 | 22:04 |
| sdake | during the midcycle? I'd say no | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | yeah, we will be in the team IRC channel during the midcycle | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | but I don't think we need the IRC meeting. | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | (2) The Magnum Midcycle Meetup will be on 2015-03-02 and 2015-03-03. | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Magnum Midcycle | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | 22:05 | |
| adrian_otto | (3) Please welcome @madhuri to our team as a full-time contributor. She is joining the Magnum team from NEC and works with yuanying in Japan. | 22:06 |
| thomasem | Welcome! | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | it's 07:06 in Japan right now | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | so maybe we will see her a bit later | 22:06 |
| yuanying-alt | She can not connect this channnel because some error | 22:07 |
| yuanying-alt | She is trying to connect now | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we can come back to it a bit later. | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | but I will say that I'm really pumped to see the team growing. | 22:08 |
| sdake | yar :) | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:08 |
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| adrian_otto | we had two | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | (1) adrian_otto to follow up with yuanying about ironic-heat-template | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | I was able to discuss this with yuanying-alt breifly | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | Implementation Status is slow due to lack of familiarity with pxe/ironic/image-building. Support from other Stackers desired. | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | if you can help with this, let's arrange for you and yuanying-alt to work together | 22:09 |
| yuanying-alt | Now, I can boot ironic instance (kube minion) | 22:09 |
| yuanying-alt | but there is some problems | 22:09 |
| yuanying-alt | Please see my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154437/ | 22:10 |
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| yuanying-alt | that's all | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: is this something you think you might be able to help with? | 22:12 |
| sdake | overloaded atm | 22:12 |
| sdake | I handed it off to yuanying in teh first place | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | aha | 22:12 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so feel free to discuss on the ML | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | maybe we can pull in others who can help | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | our next action item was: | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | (2) adrian_otto to initiate an ML thread for discussion of native Docker scheduling support for Magnum | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056273.html ML Thread about Magnum Scheduling | 22:13 |
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| adrian_otto | that thread got numerous replies | 22:13 |
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| adrian_otto | diga: yt? | 22:14 |
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| adrian_otto | it's like 02:15 where he lives | 22:14 |
| wkharold | so, I managed not to subscribe to the ML somehow ... | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | at any rate, we did discuss the topic, and most of us semed happt to pursue a point solution for the native docker backend | 22:15 |
| wkharold | real quick, what would integrating swarm provide that k8s doesnt? | 22:15 |
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| adrian_otto | while aiming for a generic scheduler option to leverage Gantt when it reaches suitable matuity | 22:15 |
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| adrian_otto | wkharold: the difference is that we would not expect to be interacting with a docker backend in the k8s case | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | whereas we would in the case of the native docker backend | 22:16 |
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| wkharold | k8s is built on/for Docker, no? | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | k8s has it's own REST API | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | and tha's what our k8s backend interacts with | 22:17 |
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| adrian_otto | it would not make sense to surface the Docker API on an individual node of a k8s cluster | 22:18 |
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| adrian_otto | where that would make sense if you are using Magnum to get a single container running on a docker host | 22:18 |
| wkharold | not sure why it matters whether backend talks k8s or Docker API | 22:18 |
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| wkharold | magnum clients see neither | 22:18 |
| wkharold | it's still Docker at the end of the day | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | actually, we discussed surfacing the native API endpoints | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | to allow for existing tooling to interact with the container using the native API | 22:19 |
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| wkharold | existing tooling? | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | so you would Use Magnum as the control plane, but you might put the container into different backend states by interacting directly with it's API | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | say you wanted to use cAdvisor or something | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | and that -something- were integrated with the container API | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | we want to provide a control surface abstraction to get the container entity | 22:20 |
| sdake | I think in some cases, for VIF for example, we need to not surface the native api for k8s | 22:21 |
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| adrian_otto | but you might select a different backend handler depending on what you want Magnum to link you to from that. | 22:21 |
| wkharold | the Docker API is always there | 22:21 |
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| wkharold | even k8s or not | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | but you may be unable to reach it | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | say for example if k8s sets up a TLS token keypair | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | and the client token is held by k8s | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | it can talk to docker, but other clients can not. | 22:22 |
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| sdake | the k8s tls token problem can be solved by an api addtion to retrieve the client's keypair | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | if you use a native docker backend, we could make the client key part of the OCNtainer resource | 22:22 |
| wkharold | does it do that? Docker would have to be a participant in that scheme | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | it does not yet, but these are examples of some of the points of differentiation between the two backends | 22:23 |
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| adrian_otto | let's park this to revisit in open discussion | 22:24 |
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| wkharold | sure | 22:24 |
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| adrian_otto | that concludes action itmes | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Administrative | 22:24 |
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| adrian_otto | Reviews to include links to "Implements blueprint BLUEPRINT" or "Closes-Bug: #NNNN" on the last line of the commit message. | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | Rationale: This allows for more accurate tracking of our progress in each release to be included in our release notes. | 22:24 |
| apmelton | +1 | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | NOTE: The bug does not need to be previously approved to be linked to a review. | 22:24 |
| sdake | +1 for better commit logs | 22:24 |
| hongbin | +1 | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | if you find reviews that link to neither a BP or a bug ticket, please vote -1 and direct the committer to add one | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | also, I have routinely commented on commit messages | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | ideally the commit message will answer the question about "Why are we doing this?" | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | "Who cares?" | 22:26 |
| sdake | the commit log is the most important point of the changei mo :) | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | so we are getting better at that | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: agreed | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | a really good commit message signals to me that your patch is well reasoned | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | even in cases where you have a 1 line patch | 22:27 |
| sdake | that can be gamed ;-) | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | I'd still like to see a sensible commit message | 22:27 |
| jay-lau-513 | sorry for late | 22:27 |
| sdake | hey jay | 22:27 |
| jay-lau-513 | hey sdake | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | I'm trusting this team not to play games | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | welcome Jay | 22:27 |
| jay-lau-513 | thx ;) | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | ok, any more discussion on the Administrative topic? | 22:28 |
| sdake | launchpad admin | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | the last change we made in this area was a policy to require unit tests | 22:28 |
| sdake | see stuff in discussion | 22:28 |
| sdake | what is the trigger to approved | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | I will comb through those | 22:28 |
| sdake | most of them have estimates now | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | if discussion has happened, and dispute is absent, then I will approve as long as there is enough detail in the BP to actually work against it | 22:29 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks to all of you who added estimates. | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | we will get to this in Task Review | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Release Schedule Discussion | 22:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Schedule Discussion (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:29 | |
| adrian_otto | Next planned release date is 2015-02-16 is there value in aligning our release date with our Midcycle meetup? | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | keep in mind that we can release as often as we want | 22:30 |
| apmelton | as in pushing 2-16 back to just before 3-2? | 22:30 |
| apmelton | or releasing 2-16 then quickly again before/after the mid cycle? | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | my question is if we should push out a release date | 22:31 |
| sdake | i think just push out a week | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | we do have 25+ open bugs, several of them are Criticals | 22:31 |
| wkharold | +1 | 22:31 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: that's a good point | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | so I'd like to see us draw down the critical list a lot | 22:32 |
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| jay-lau-513 | +1 to push out | 22:32 |
| jay-lau-513 | some bp also under development | 22:32 |
| hongbin | +1 fine with me | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | That would make the proposed release date Feb 23 | 22:32 |
| apmelton | I see no reason to not push back the date, so +1 from me | 22:32 |
| yuanying-alt | +1 | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | ok I will record that as a #agreed | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed our next target date to tag a release is 2015-02-23 | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | if you have a moment, I'd like us all to find a bug in the queue that has Assignee set to None, and take it. | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | or take a few | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | I will revisit that in a moment as well. | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | but now, I'd like to welcome our new team member madhuri__ | 22:35 |
| madhuri__ | Hi all! | 22:35 |
| apmelton | welcome madhuri__ | 22:35 |
| hongbin | welcome | 22:35 |
| wkharold | howdy | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | madhuri__: welcome to eh Magnum team!! | 22:35 |
| madhuri__ | Thank you! | 22:36 |
| jay-lau-513 | welcome madhuri_ | 22:36 |
| yuanying-alt | welcome! | 22:36 |
| madhuri__ | I am happy to join this team. | 22:36 |
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| adrian_otto | madhuri__: have you worked on other OpenStack projects before, or will this be your first? | 22:36 |
| thomasem | welcome! | 22:36 |
| madhuri__ | Yes. I have worked on swift. | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | sweet! | 22:37 |
| apmelton | I'd argue this isn't a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1405356 | 22:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1405356 in Magnum "Tech Debt: Fix endpoint configuration on docker handler" [High,Triaged] | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so your learning curve will be much easier with Gerrit and such | 22:37 |
| madhuri__ | More of an improvement. Right? | 22:37 |
| madhuri__ | Yes. I am familiar with it. | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | let's cover the Midcycle for a moment | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Mid-Cycle Meetup | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | If you can attend, please RSVP: | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/magnum-midcycle-meetup-tickets-15673361446 Midcycle RSVP Tickets | 22:39 |
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| adrian_otto | if you can not attend, take no action | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | regardless, please review the agenda topics | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-midcycle-topics Midcycle Agenda Items | 22:39 |
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| jay-lau-513 | adrian, I think someone does want to join remotely | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | yes, the next step in planning will be to get all the topics, and build a schedule for them | 22:40 |
| sdake | for remote attendees, what is the process? | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | if you want to join the discussion on one of the topics, please label it | 22:40 |
| sdake | how does it work? | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | and put an asterisk by your name if you are remote | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | and anchor that asterisk to the timezone you wnat to attend from | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | and I will see what I can do to allow remote participation | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | we have a room with a very good VC system in it | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | and I have held midcycles there before | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | Google Hangouts worked well, as well as projecting up the IRC channel | 22:41 |
| sdake | cool, might document how to connect for the midcycle then if we haveremotees | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | good idea | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | I will put that on the wiki page for the Midcycle linked above | 22:42 |
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| sdake | cool thx | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | again for your convenience: | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | •#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Magnum Midcycle | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | I will plan to sponsor lunches for us | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | so if you have dietary constraints, please contact me individually | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | any other questions or concerns regarding the meetup? | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:44 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/milestone-2 M2 Blueprints | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | I will be advancing several of these from discussion to approved today | 22:44 |
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| adrian_otto | are there any that you think I should leave in discussion? | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | if so, LMK. | 22:44 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1418719 replication controller created pods don't show up in pod-list output | 22:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1418719 in Magnum "replication controller created pods don't show up in pod-list output" [High,Triaged] | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | this bug struck me as important, but it has no owner | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | it might actually be a critical | 22:45 |
| sdake | what is m2-docs? | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | and it might actually be related to another open bug | 22:45 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes, we did not put pod data in DB when creating with rc | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | all documentation work items for the upcoming rleease | 22:45 |
| wkharold | re: 1418719 ... not clear that the DB is a good place for that info | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | jay-lau-513: so you are confirming that 1418719 is a unique defect? | 22:46 |
| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto yes | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | if the source of truth is in the rc resource, then we do not need to duplicate it | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | that will not be a high frequency request | 22:47 |
| wkharold | just so | 22:47 |
| jay-lau-513 | I'm also thinking if DB is a good place for such case | 22:47 |
| wkharold | it will be difficult to keep it in sync | 22:47 |
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| adrian_otto | so we are short on time today, but I wanted to bird dog that particular bug. | 22:47 |
| wkharold | better to talk to k8s or maybe etcd | 22:47 |
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| adrian_otto | We have ~15 bugs that have no owner assigned | 22:48 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=& | 22:48 |
| jay-lau-513 | I have taken 1418719 | 22:48 |
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| adrian_otto | so please adopt them as you find ones you can solve | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | any other work items that should be discussed as a team today? | 22:49 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:49 |
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| adrian_otto | wkharold did you have more questions about docker native backend? | 22:51 |
| apmelton | I'd like to comment on that a little bit | 22:51 |
| wkharold | I need to read thru the e-mail thread to get a full context | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: you have the floor | 22:51 |
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| apmelton | the way I see it, providing the docker/kubernetes endpoint allows power users to continue to use their tools | 22:52 |
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| apmelton | I think that's pretty important in the container world | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | that would of course come with a "use at your own risk" warning | 22:53 |
| apmelton | yes | 22:54 |
| wkharold | apmelton: what are the tools that power users are using? | 22:54 |
| apmelton | the docker cli | 22:54 |
| apmelton | kube client | 22:54 |
| jay-lau-513 | apmelton, I think we did have have the plan to support this, sdake please confirm | 22:55 |
| jay-lau-513 | https://github.com/stackforge/magnum/blob/master/specs/containers-service.rst | 22:55 |
| wkharold | whether we support it or not, users are going to do it | 22:55 |
| jay-lau-513 | Take a look at use case 9 | 22:55 |
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| sdake | jay yup | 22:56 |
| sdake | confirmed | 22:56 |
| sdake | this is exposing the native ReST APIs via the bay | 22:56 |
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| sdake | that can be shown via bay-show | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | right | 22:56 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes | 22:56 |
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| adrian_otto | we would expect some different output depending on the backend | 22:57 |
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| adrian_otto | for example, I may want to emulate the behaviour of docker-machine when using the native docker backend | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | which would be different than what I expect for the k8s backend | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | we are approaching the end of our scheduled time for today's meeting | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | I'm happy to discuss further in #openstack-containers | 22:58 |
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| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is 2015-02-17 at 1600 UTC. | 22:59 |
| wkharold | k | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today!! | 22:59 |
| jay-lau-513 | bye everyone | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:59 |
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| thomasem | Thanks all. Have a great week! | 22:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 10 22:59:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-02-10-22.01.html | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-02-10-22.01.txt | 22:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-02-10-22.01.log.html | 22:59 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:59 |
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