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| elmiko | is there a meeting today? | 17:03 |
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| shelleea007 | hello... | 17:03 |
| elmiko | hehe | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | yep! | 17:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | hey | 17:03 |
| * bdpayne was wondering the same thing | 17:03 | |
| tmcpeak | let me ping Rob | 17:03 |
| shelleea007 | needs more coffee. | 17:03 |
| * redrobot peeks head in | 17:04 | |
| tmcpeak | what was the meeting name? | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | I'll get it right this time :) | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | openstack security? | 17:04 |
| bdpayne | openstack security group | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 12 17:04:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | Rob will come soon | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | roll call! | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 17:05 |
| redrobot | o/ | 17:05 |
| shelleea007 | o/ | 17:05 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:05 |
| bknudson | hi | 17:05 |
| bdpayne | o/ | 17:05 |
| ljfisher | o/ | 17:05 |
| elmiko | yo/ | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | topics for today? | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | Midcycle | 17:06 |
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| elmiko | security guide | 17:06 |
| chair6 | \o | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Hey :) | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | yo | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | we completed roll call and are collecting topics | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Sorry I”m late all | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | Great | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | we have midcycle and guide so far | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | So I’d like to talk a little about the midcycle too | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | Anything else? tkelsey is just joining now | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'd like to talk about an issue with bandit that I want some feedback on before sending a change :) | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | great! | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:08 |
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| tkelsey | o/ sorry im late! | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | shame on you tkelsey | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 17:08 |
| tkelsey | :) | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Midycle | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Midycle (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:08 | |
| tmcpeak | take it away maestro :) | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | So we’re going to lay on food (breakfast and lunch) at the midcycle | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | lay on? | 17:09 |
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| hyakuhei | It’s british for sit on your food | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | still not making sense ;-) | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | lol, yeah | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | You're expecting us to consume it through our buttocks? | 17:10 |
| bdpayne | perhaps there will be breakfast and lunch provided for free? | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | lol, so HP is going to pay for and provision breakfast and lunch at the midcycle | 17:10 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | (not that I'm attending) | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | sweet! | 17:10 |
| tkelsey | awesome | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | I like those HP guys, they're going places | 17:10 |
| bknudson | breakfast at start time -- 9? | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | That makes more sense | 17:10 |
| * bdpayne thanks the overlords at HP | 17:10 | |
| bknudson | wonders where HP gets all this money -- probably selling stuff. | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | I’d still like some other organisation *cough* redhat, *cough* nebula to pony up some sort of social evening though | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah, we also need to come to some consensus about when we're doing the social | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | if you haven't added your name to that section on the wiki, please do so | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | So yeah, 9am start time, food on-site. I don’t know the split of vegetarians we have but I’m thinking I’ll aim for about 30-50% vedgy food | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | looks like Tues is winning so far | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | +1 for Tuesday | 17:12 |
| bdpayne | hyakuhei I'll take an action item to investigate, and I'll PM you after this meeting | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Thank you | 17:12 |
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| bknudson | will eat extra meat if it helps. | 17:12 |
| ukbelch | oops, o/ (missed roll call) | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | HP is committed to keeping security folks well fed. I’ll be ordering from a bunch of places, various bits. We’ll also have stock of drinks/snacks for the week | 17:13 |
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| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | I’m guessing some of you more local to the event can find homes for the left over drinks etc | 17:13 |
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| hyakuhei | I don’t recall anyone from the last meetup having any major dietary issues, new people should let me know if any food I order is likely to kill them. | 17:14 |
| ukbelch | Tea for breakfast, Gin for lunch | 17:14 |
| tkelsey | lol | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | The agenda is shaping up nicely I think and that’s me done on the midcycle I think. I’m really looking forward to seeing everyone. | 17:14 |
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| tkelsey | hyakuhei: +100 | 17:14 |
| bdpayne | indeed | 17:15 |
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| redrobot | hyakuhei agenda link? | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | yeah big time | 17:15 |
| * redrobot needs to bookmark it | 17:15 | |
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| tmcpeak | https://www.team-cymru.org/Services/ip-to-asn.html | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | damit | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | #link etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-kilo-meetup | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | ^ that | 17:15 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll put some contact info up on the wiki in case people need to reach out / have last minute problems etc | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | ok tmcpeak take us on to the next item | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Security Guide | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security Guide (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:17 | |
| bdpayne | (next slide) | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko bdpyane sicarie | 17:17 |
| elmiko | hey | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | take it away | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | oh, yeah, that's us | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | elmiko has proposed a new chapter | 17:18 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155052 | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:18 |
| elmiko | =) | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | reviews would be great since it is a lot of new content | 17:18 |
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| bdpayne | and I'd like lots of eyeballs on it | 17:18 |
| bdpayne | beyond that, we have completed triaging the existing open tickets on the guide | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | bdpayne: will look | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | cool, will do | 17:19 |
| bdpayne | there's some good work that needs to be done | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | Great, I’ll try to take a look too | 17:19 |
| sicarie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=sec-guide | 17:19 |
| bdpayne | and our primary goal for the meetup will be to plan for how we manage the book going forward | 17:19 |
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| bdpayne | so anyone with inputs on that (release schedule, what content to include, how to maintain quality, etc) should join us next week! | 17:19 |
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| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:20 |
| bdpayne | and that's all that I have on the book... sicaries elmiko anything to add? | 17:20 |
| sicarie | I did ask someone who knows Neutron relatively well to take a look at the Networking chapter, it'd be nice to get someone familiar with Nova quirks to submit anything on the Compute chapter | 17:20 |
| elmiko | nothing more from me | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | so any nova people here? | 17:20 |
| bdpayne | sicarie agreed, let's discuss that in more detail next week, but I like the idea | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | for sicarie's thing? | 17:20 |
| sicarie | Sounds good to me | 17:21 |
| shelleea007 | I have several bugs assigned to me and I plan on doing a good deal of work on them within the next few weeks | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | groovy | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | thanks! | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | ok anything else for the guide? | 17:21 |
| ukbelch | I assume having a quick intro from all attending delegates is part of the agenda? I know for me at least it would be good to know who everyone else is, and what they do :) | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | I think that's all | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | ukbelch: yeah, we definitely will | 17:21 |
| bdpayne | ukbelch, yeah, that would make sense ot me too | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit Question | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bandit Question (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:22 | |
| tmcpeak | was this you elmiko? | 17:22 |
| elmiko | not me | 17:22 |
| bdpayne | it was sigmavirus24 | 17:22 |
| sicarie | I think it was sigmavirus24 | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24 | 17:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yes | 17:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | So I'm not sure how familiar everyone is with the ssl module but I take strong objection to https://github.com/stackforge/bandit/blob/24ba70179fbdcbc90e0e08637eb1ff35c5a9feb6/bandit.yaml#L93 | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | cool, what's up? | 17:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | PROTOCOL_SSLv23 negotiates the highest supported protocol automatically depending on what is supported by both client and server | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, actually you're right | 17:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | That is not negotiating only SSLv2 or SSLv3 | 17:23 |
| bknudson | y, SSLv23 doesn't mean just 2 & 3. | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | good catch | 17:23 |
| bdpayne | correct | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | so you can submit a bug or make the change yourself | 17:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | So that seems like a terrible false positive. I'm happy to fix it, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing another reason | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | either would be awesome | 17:24 |
| tkelsey | yeah, you can use it conjunction with other flags to prohibit v2 or whatever and allow others | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | tkelsey: exactly | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | requests is working on adding that functionality | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: no, I don't think you're missing anything. Good catch | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | I've just been too busy lately | 17:24 |
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| rlpple | hello | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | That's the only reason I caught this | 17:24 |
| sigmavirus24 | Anyway that's all | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: great, thanks for brining it to attention | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | sigmavirus24: you propose we remove that check? the reasoning seems valid | 17:25 |
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| tkelsey | to remove it, that is | 17:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | tkelsey: yes | 17:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | just that one check, none of the others stood out to me | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:25 |
| tkelsey | ok, I can put up a patch to do that if no one objects | 17:25 |
| bknudson | maybe a check could be added for a protocol use that allows SSLv2. | 17:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | tkelsey: was already working on it | 17:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | :) | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey: awesome | 17:25 |
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| bknudson | that would be a more difficult check | 17:26 |
| tkelsey | ah ok sigmavirus24, I'll leave it with you then :) | 17:26 |
| shelleea007 | an interesting tidbit for those going for PCI requirements for OpenStack, TLS will only be allowed, SSL will no longer be acceptable. | 17:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | bknudson: yeah but also Python 2.6+ disables SSLv2 forcefully | 17:26 |
| shelleea007 | i know its off topic but the SSL thing reminded me | 17:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | shelleea007: that is interesting and helpful to know :) | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | also for Bandit ljfisher has been bringing some great changes | 17:27 |
| bknudson | any progress on gating on bandit? | 17:27 |
| ljfisher | :) | 17:27 |
| tkelsey | tmcpeak: +1 yeah ljfisher has added some good stuff | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | bdknuson: nah, I haven't done anything. Next step is still getting Gerrit and PyPI talking | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | I'm mostly going to work Bandit all of next week | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | so I'm expecting to make some good progress | 17:28 |
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| ljfisher | I think we will need a profile for bandit for gating to limit to the more accurate tests | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | ljfisher: +1 | 17:28 |
| tkelsey | +1 | 17:28 |
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| tmcpeak | whenever we get into global requirements we're basically frozen for 6 months | 17:29 |
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| tmcpeak | so let's make sure we're happy with the version that will be usable by other projects | 17:29 |
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| chair6 | sounds like a worthy goal for next week :) | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, looking forward to some nice focused Bandit work | 17:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh have y'all heard back about the "bandit" name yet? | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, bdpayne pulled strings and got it for us | 17:30 |
| redrobot | nice | 17:30 |
| tkelsey | :D awesome!! | 17:30 |
| bdpayne | :-) | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | cool, so anything else for Bandit? | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Anchor | 17:31 |
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| tmcpeak | tkelsey: go! | 17:31 |
| tkelsey | so, lots of tests going in still, coverage rising slowly | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:32 |
| tkelsey | a few bug fixes, nothing major really. As always, I encourage people to look over the code and patches if they are interested | 17:32 |
| tkelsey | I will be happy to answer questions and give more info at the meet up | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | cool, sounds good | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, you're still planning to give an intro? | 17:32 |
| tkelsey | yup | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:33 |
| ljfisher | good | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | okies | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Other Business | 17:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other Business (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:33 | |
| tkelsey | thats all i got | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | last week there were a couple of side projects | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson had one and... | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | about rootwrap | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | and there was one about sharing security info | 17:34 |
| bknudson | I haven't had time to look at it. | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | bknduson: fair enough :) | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | plenty of time next week | 17:34 |
| ljfisher | is there an agenda item for rootwrap next week? | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah, bknudson: did you have time to put one up? / do you still want to do it? | 17:35 |
| bknudson | it's on the agenda: Rootwrap rearchitecting | 17:35 |
| bdpayne | yes, I believe there is an agenda item for rootwrap | 17:35 |
| * sigmavirus24 sneaks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155419/ in | 17:35 | |
| tmcpeak | awesome, we'll review this shortly | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | thanks sigmavirus24 | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | thanks tmcpeak | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | cool, other business today all or we good? | 17:36 |
| bknudson | wanted to mention I got a small security hardening default config into horizon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154943/ | 17:36 |
| bknudson | default config change | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | awesome! will take a look | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | fighting the good fight bknudson | 17:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | bknudson: awesome! | 17:37 |
| bknudson | we ran AppScan tool on horizon internally and it complained. | 17:37 |
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| bknudson | rather than just fix it internally with a config change, figured we'd fix it in community | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | cool, any other stuff? | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | well looking forward to seeing a bunch of you next week | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 12 17:40:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-02-12-17.04.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-02-12-17.04.txt | 17:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-02-12-17.04.log.html | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | thanks all | 17:41 |
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| elmiko | tmcpeak: thanks! | 17:41 |
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| bknudson | wear flowers in your hair! | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | always :D | 17:41 |
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| tkelsey | lol | 17:41 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 12 18:59:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 18:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 18:59 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 18:59 |
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| amitgandhinz | \o/ | 18:59 |
| sriram | _/\_ | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | lol | 19:00 |
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| megan_w_ | hey everyone! | 19:00 |
| dmitry | howdy folks! | 19:01 |
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| amitgandhinz | dmitry: howdy! | 19:01 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:01 |
| dmitry | hey Amit & Megan! | 19:01 |
| miqui | o/ | 19:01 |
| miqui | hello all... | 19:01 |
| cpowell | o\ | 19:01 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy#Agenda | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Review Last Week | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-02-05-19.00.html | 19:02 |
| * sriram wonders how the meeting would go if everything was ascii art :P | 19:02 | |
| amitgandhinz | no action items from last week | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | fyi i did submit the proposal for the vancouver talk | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | i think they will get published soon for people to start voting on | 19:03 |
| obulpathi | sriram: we at poppy, use unicode for everything :) | 19:03 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: | 19:03 |
| sriram | cool | 19:03 |
| miqui | +1 | 19:03 |
| sriram | obulpathi: heh | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | but you can see what i submitted on the etherpad here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Poppy_Vancouver | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | any questions on this? | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | if not we can move on to reviewing the current board | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Kilo3 Updates | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/kilo-3 | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | lets go through the bp first | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: taskflow driver update (tonytan is on vacation right now) | 19:06 |
| sriram | sure | 19:07 |
| sriram | so there are 2 patches out there. | 19:07 |
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| sriram | the first one is the base, where everything runs in one task, with a linear flow. | 19:07 |
| sriram | thats going to be a first pass. | 19:07 |
| sriram | the second patch, is the one I'm currently working on. | 19:07 |
| sriram | splits everything into multiple tasks, enclosed within a graph flow. | 19:08 |
| sriram | I have managed to get everything working. | 19:08 |
| sriram | I need to update the tests, and also add a more sophisticated retry logic while making dns updates. | 19:08 |
| sriram | right now we just retry 5 times. | 19:08 |
| sriram | thats about it. | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | cool, coming along nicely | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/home-doc | 19:09 |
| miqui | i did some updates.... | 19:09 |
| miqui | but need team feedback if anything is missing... | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | submit a patch to gerrit and we can take a look | 19:10 |
| miqui | basically does it reflect all of the routes and responses... | 19:10 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: +1 | 19:10 |
| sriram | miqui: please feel free to submit a patch :) | 19:10 |
| miqui | hmmm... i was actually assuming that if you look at the apiari doc | 19:10 |
| miqui | there would be the answer.... | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | oh you made the update in apiary? | 19:11 |
| miqui | yes | 19:11 |
| sriram | oh | 19:11 |
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| miqui | what am doing is changing the apiary to match what is there... | 19:11 |
| miqui | there in the code... | 19:11 |
| miqui | not the other way around... | 19:11 |
| miqui | i.e. docs match the code.... | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | are you updating it here: http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/#get-%2F | 19:12 |
| miqui | yes | 19:12 |
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| miqui | changing it to reflect the current code | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | hmm i dont see the changes yet | 19:12 |
| miqui | it is a challenge since the code keeps changing.... | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | the endpoints are not changing so shouldnt be impactful | 19:13 |
| miqui | amitgandhinz: then i think i am still missing something... | 19:13 |
| miqui | i did some minor updates that reflect the models | 19:13 |
| miqui | and some typos | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, lets chat afterwards about this | 19:14 |
| miqui | also services seems done | 19:14 |
| miqui | k | 19:14 |
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| amitgandhinz | may need to clarify exactly what is required here | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/mimic-racksapce-dns | 19:15 |
| obulpathi | I am not getting time to work on this | 19:15 |
| obulpathi | I will remove my name from this | 19:15 |
| obulpathi | and will pick it up, when I have bandwidth | 19:15 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:16 |
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| amitgandhinz | alright, moving on to bugs | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | nothing looks like its currently in progress | 19:17 |
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| obulpathi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1420833 | 19:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1420833 in Poppy "service stays in update_in_progress state" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi) | 19:17 |
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| obulpathi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1420515 | 19:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1420515 in Poppy "Change PATCH to do UPSERT" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi) | 19:17 |
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| obulpathi | we have got these bugs fixed | 19:17 |
| obulpathi | can we mark it for kilo-3? | 19:17 |
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| obulpathi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1421352 | 19:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1421352 in Poppy "Race condition in PATCH endpoint" [Undecided,New] | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1421352 | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | targeted | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | the two bugs related to race conditions | 19:18 |
| obulpathi | can you also mark them for kilo-3 please | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | cool .. thanks :) | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | yes i marked them to k3 | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | we also finally got all the api tests passing now too | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | yep | 19:19 |
| sriram | wooo nice. | 19:19 |
| obulpathi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1417368 | 19:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1417368 in Poppy "Cassandra storage driver docstring refers to MongoDB" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Robert Morgan (robert-thomas-morgan) | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | needs to marked for kilo-3 | 19:20 |
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| amitgandhinz | done | 19:20 |
| obulpathi | thanks :) | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic New Items | 19:21 |
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| amitgandhinz | so i have been documenting some api changes in apiary | 19:22 |
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| amitgandhinz | http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | i want the team to review them before the work starts on adding those features | 19:22 |
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| amitgandhinz | i will summarize what the features are here so that everyone has context | 19:22 |
| sriram | mark as action item? | 19:22 |
| miqui | oh wait....ami | 19:22 |
| miqui | amitgandhinz: | 19:22 |
| amitgandhinz | #action ALL - review api service configuration changes in apiary | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | yes miqui? | 19:23 |
| miqui | just want to clarify something... | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | sure | 19:23 |
| miqui | so the apiary tool is basically used to document apis,etc..etc.. then we go off to implement as per that spec/doc | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | generally yes | 19:24 |
| miqui | , but the have been treating it as the homedoc | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | we review the api before implementing it | 19:24 |
| miqui | which in turn is modified to match whats in the code today | 19:24 |
| miqui | am i doing the wrong thing... | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | at the end of the day the code and the api docs should match | 19:25 |
| miqui | sure sure... | 19:25 |
| miqui | but i think i been doing things backwards | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | ideally the team agrees on the api doc first, so we dont end up building the wrong thing | 19:25 |
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| sriram | AFAIK, the home doc should reflect all available endpoints in the api | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: +1 | 19:25 |
| sriram | and needs to be implemented here: https://github.com/stackforge/poppy/blob/181a0216ec1f0dd596a017bf5c257fac96c9f641/poppy/manager/default/home.py | 19:25 |
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| amitgandhinz | so in the case of poppy, it should reflect the endpoints available for /services and /flavors, and the methods possible (get, put, post, delete), etc | 19:26 |
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| sriram | yes | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | a user can then discover individual services by doing a list of /services | 19:26 |
| miqui | right... but i think am doing it backwards | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | how are you doing it? | 19:26 |
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| miqui | am modifying the homedoc to reflect the code as per the bp | 19:26 |
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| miqui | instead the correct way is to document what the api is goign top be etcetc and then do the code | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | so, right now the homedoc as shown in apiary is also incomplete | 19:27 |
| miqui | its missing endpoints? | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | so if you can update apiary for the GET home document endpoint to what it should be....and then update the code to reflect that | 19:28 |
| sriram | miqui: yep | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | homedoc is currently missing the /flavors endpoint | 19:28 |
| amitgandhinz | its also missing the hints for the other verbs | 19:28 |
| sriram | it lists just the services endpoint right now. | 19:28 |
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| miqui | hmm missing? | 19:28 |
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| amitgandhinz | as in its not documented | 19:29 |
| miqui | i see it here: xotl: so you are saying that you cannot access sails.config.env.xxx.xxx ? | 19:29 |
| miqui | oops | 19:29 |
| miqui | http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/#flavors | 19:29 |
| sriram | miqui: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ff02c8d1b81146323db8 | 19:29 |
| sriram | under href/template, you see that it just lists services | 19:29 |
| sriram | we need to add flavors | 19:29 |
| amitgandhinz | so if a user of poppy doesnt read the api docs, they have no idea the flavors endpoint exists | 19:29 |
| sriram | and all other endpoints. | 19:29 |
| miqui | aaaahhhhhhhhhh wait.. | 19:29 |
| amitgandhinz | and where it is | 19:29 |
| amitgandhinz | but if the make a call to / | 19:30 |
| miqui | the homedoc IS NOT the apiary doc | 19:30 |
| sriram | miqui: nope :) | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | then they will discover that there is a /services endpoint and a /flavors endpoint | 19:30 |
| miqui | the homedoc is just another endpoint | 19:30 |
| sriram | GET v1.0/ | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | if they call GET /services, then they discover the list of services created | 19:30 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: +1 | 19:30 |
| miqui | right so the homedoc is another endpoint.... | 19:30 |
| obulpathi | miqui: you can fin f the code related to homedoc here: https://github.com/stackforge/poppy/blob/master/poppy%2Fmanager%2Fdefault%2Fhome.py | 19:30 |
| miqui | but my question ... am i correct? | 19:31 |
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| amitgandhinz | the home doc is NOT the apiary doc | 19:31 |
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| * miqui a lightbulb lights up finally | 19:31 | |
| amitgandhinz | the homedoc needs to be documented in apiary under the / endpoint as per here... | 19:31 |
| sriram | sorry, If my answer was confusing :P | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/#get-%2F | 19:31 |
| miqui | all this freaking time i treated the apiary as the homedoc | 19:32 |
| miqui | gees | 19:32 |
| miqui | its all in the terminology.... | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | hmm....sorry if we created confusion | 19:32 |
| miqui | sorry sorry sorry sorry guys | 19:32 |
| sriram | miqui: dont sweat it :) | 19:32 |
| miqui | home endpoint | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | yip =) | 19:32 |
| miqui | might been clearer to me.... | 19:32 |
| malini | its just an endpoint after all :) | 19:32 |
| sriram | heh | 19:33 |
| miqui | when i see 'doc' hey its doc not code | 19:33 |
| miqui | gees sorry again... | 19:33 |
| miqui | technically malini that is true... | 19:33 |
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| miqui | k... amitgandhinz i will have another look... | 19:33 |
| miqui | thats my update....hahahah | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | and we can chat more in the channel on this, definately ask questions. especially if the bp is not clear | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | ok.... | 19:34 |
| miqui | sure thanks | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | http://docs.cloudcdn.apiary.io/#post-%2Fservices | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | so i have added a section for "content" | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | the idea here is to implement things like header forwarding, querystring forwarding, and cookie forwarding to origin | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | those items also become part of the cachekey | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | that way users can be served content based on their sessions/headers/ etc | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | the second one i added was under restrictions[] | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | i added a rule to allow geography restrictions to allow requests to be restricted to certain geo's only | 19:36 |
| sriram | cool, I guess thats a country code? | 19:36 |
| sriram | or regions? | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | country code | 19:36 |
| sriram | just wondering about the granularity of the region | 19:36 |
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| amitgandhinz | and regions are subjective | 19:36 |
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| amitgandhinz | we may need to come up with an enumerated list that we support | 19:37 |
| sriram | just wondering.. if lets say I want the content to be accessible from asia | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | and then map items in that list to ones that providers support | 19:37 |
| obulpathi | also, the list that goes into geo, is it whitelist or blacklist? | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | as im sure each provider refer to countries/regions differently | 19:37 |
| sriram | do I need to send all the country codes in asia? | 19:37 |
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| amitgandhinz | maybe we do each country, but also have the option for regions in our enumerated list of options | 19:37 |
| obulpathi | +1 | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | so you can say "asia" or each country | 19:38 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: yeah, then again, it also depends on what the providers support. | 19:38 |
| obulpathi | is this a whitelist or blacklist? | 19:38 |
| sriram | but, I like the idea. | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | restrictions are a blacklist generally | 19:38 |
| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: cool | 19:38 |
| amitgandhinz | hmmm | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | we may need to introduce a way to indicate it huh | 19:39 |
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| amitgandhinz | eg if i want to limit to USA, then i wouldnt want to restrict 250 countries | 19:39 |
| obulpathi | yeah | 19:39 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: +1 | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | feedback noted | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | the third item i added was the ability to enable log_delivery | 19:40 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: cool, that makes sense. | 19:40 |
| amitgandhinz | log delivery will basically take the logs delivered from the provider, reformat it into a standardized format, and put it inthe customer's swift contianer | 19:40 |
| obulpathi | is there a way to generalize to any container? | 19:41 |
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| obulpathi | swift/S3/google? | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | we can make the container name configurable by the operator | 19:41 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:41 |
| sriram | obulpathi: we could. just need different drivers. | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | hmmm....lets start with swift only, and then generalize later with different drivers | 19:41 |
| obulpathi | also, only the config option is exposed, right? | 19:41 |
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| amitgandhinz | yes, only enabled: true/false | 19:42 |
| sriram | just make sure that we do the service as abstract base class, as its easily extensible later. | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | we could make this an object so its easy to add features later to extend it | 19:42 |
| obulpathi | the code for pushing logs into containers, is it going to live under poppy? | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | so instead of log_delivery: true it could be log_delivery : { enabled: true, storage: swift } | 19:42 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: yes | 19:43 |
| obulpathi | ok | 19:43 |
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| miqui | what about log format? | 19:44 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: its something thats going to be running in the background? | 19:44 |
| miqui | json is pretty popular | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | if you scroll down, i have it detailed | 19:44 |
| sriram | a separate entry point, right? | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: the log fromat should follow a standard as users will often parse it into their own systems | 19:44 |
| obulpathi | yeah | 19:44 |
| miqui | and what is that standard? | 19:45 |
| mpanetta | Usually apache | 19:45 |
| obulpathi | apache common log format / extended log format support | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | this one is NCSA combined (apache) | 19:45 |
| miqui | hmmm..k | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | eventually we could add a field to the log_delivery element where the customer can specify the format they want i guess | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | maybe thats a v2 thing | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | based on feedback we get on this | 19:46 |
| miqui | sure | 19:46 |
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| sriram | so, again a question the log delivery is an out of band service from the api, correct? | 19:46 |
| miqui | some might want it in certain format that fits well with lets say logstash... | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | ok, the last change i added was the "certificate" field under "domains[]" | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | the idea here is you can set it to "shared", "san", or "custom" | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | if you do shared there are validations that kick in on what was entered for the domain | 19:47 |
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| amitgandhinz | basically shared ssl domains can only have one level of indirection in them | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | shared will use an operator cert | 19:48 |
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| amitgandhinz | san will add the user's domain as a Subject Alternate Name to the operator's cert | 19:48 |
| amitgandhinz | and "custom" will provision a new cert for the customer's domain at the provider | 19:48 |
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| amitgandhinz | for custom, we may utilize barbican potentially to generate certs for providers who need it uploaded. Others (like Akamai) dont trust users to upload a cert and want to provision it themselves to ensure the cert hasnt been compromised | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | dmitry: how does maxcdn handle dedicated certs? | 19:49 |
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| amitgandhinz | ie is it custom provisioning? is there an API for it? | 19:50 |
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| dmitry | Amit: Customers can upload their own certificates or we can purhase on their behalf and provsion. It's practically real-time and done via our Control Panel :) | 19:50 |
| dmitry | dedicated or wildcard certs | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | cool =) is there an API/CLI interface to upload it also, or is it only on the control panel? | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://www.maxcdn.com/one/tutorial/setup-dedicated-ssl/ | 19:51 |
| dmitry | this could possible be done via API as well.. I would need to look into the specs | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | the maxcdn looks somewhat similar (slightly easier) than cloudfronts process | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | so in these types of examples we can have barbican generate a cert, and then upload it (hopefully via api) to the providers | 19:53 |
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| obulpathi | +1 | 19:53 |
| dmitry | Amit, confirmed that certs can be uploaded and provisioned via API | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | dmitry: awesome =D | 19:53 |
| dmitry | via the MaxCDN API | 19:53 |
| dmitry | https://docs.maxcdn.com/#ssl-certificate-api | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | this is nice | 19:54 |
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| dmitry | we're fancy like that ;) | 19:54 |
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| amitgandhinz | haha | 19:54 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok team, so please read through these api spec changes, and give me more feedback on them. i will incorporate some of the feedback received today into it also | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | timecheck - 5 min remaining | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | any questions on any of these suggestions, or are they pretty clear? | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:56 |
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| miqui | one comment.. | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | sure | 19:56 |
| miqui | i have seen some code here and there without proper docstrings.... | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | =/ | 19:56 |
| miqui | so me being a bottom feeder is keeping an eye in this making patches... | 19:57 |
| miqui | thats it for me... | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | please -1 those patches when reviewing | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | and team, please add docstrings! | 19:57 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: +1 | 19:57 |
| amitgandhinz | we need them, it makes it easier for others to participate too | 19:58 |
| obulpathi | sure | 19:58 |
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| amitgandhinz | dmitry: also, we started some docs for providers - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Poppy/Provider_-_Getting_Started#Building_a_Provider_Driver | 19:58 |
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| amitgandhinz | its still a work in progress, but its a start i think | 19:59 |
| dmitry | perfect, thanks Amit! | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | im strill trying to add to it (eg a step by step guide on building a new provider from nothing with code samples) | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | ok we are at time now | 19:59 |
| amitgandhinz | we can discuss more in the #openstack-poppy channel | 20:00 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| sriram | and thats a wrap. | 20:00 |
| obulpathi | see you all next week | 20:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 12 20:00:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-02-12-18.59.html | 20:00 |
| miqui | ttyl | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-02-12-18.59.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-02-12-18.59.log.html | 20:00 |
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