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| dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 16 16:00:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for jd__, dims, bnemec, flaper87, harlowja, viktors, rpodolyaka, zzzeek, sileht, kgiusti | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for redrobot, jungleboyj, zhiyan, therve, amotoki, GheRivero, bknudson, ihrachyshka, jogo, dougwig, sreshetnyak, amrith | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| xek | o/ | 16:00 |
| viktors | o/ | 16:00 |
| ihrachyshka | o/ | 16:00 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 16:00 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
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| jecarey_ | o/ | 16:00 |
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| * flaper87 remembers the first oslo IRC meeting.... There were so few of us | 16:01 | |
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| jd__ | o/ | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: so true :-) | 16:01 |
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| bnemec | Sort of o/ | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: o~ | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | let's get started | 16:02 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: I like it :-) | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
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| dhellmann | #info dhellmann start a mailing list thread for summit room planning | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056617.html | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | we'll talk more about this in a few minutes | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | not much old business this week | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
| dhellmann | I've released several libraries today already, and we have a few more to go. | 16:03 |
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| zzzeek | o/ | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | All of the requirements will be capped in juno and icehouse by the time they are released. | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | Let us know if the releases start causing trouble in master. | 16:03 |
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| dhellmann | Other than that, how are things going, liaisons? | 16:03 |
| ihrachyshka | pretty calm. waiting for official oslo.policy release. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Other than the Juno mess. Fine. | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: we'll be looking at policy for a release tomorrow probably -- I want to look at the state of things before we cut 0.1.0 | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: is that still an issue for you? | 16:05 |
| * bnemec just approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154742/ | 16:05 | |
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| ihrachyshka | ack, thank | 16:05 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: excellent, thanks | 16:05 |
| ihrachyshka | *s | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | I need to check today. It was last week. | 16:05 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: ok. We believe that now with the caps in place everything should be working ok. | 16:06 |
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| dhellmann | we do have caps for all runtime libs, but oslotest and oslosphinx are still in the merge queue from the patch I posted today | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156239/1 | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Ok, will let you know if that isn't the case. | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | how about any of the other liasons? if you have nothing to report, please say that explicitly so we know we've heard from you | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: ok, good | 16:07 |
| dougwig | Good here. It's Presidents' Day, so folks might be absent | 16:08 |
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| dhellmann | that's a good day for releases, then :-) | 16:08 |
| ihrachyshka | :D | 16:08 |
| dougwig | Haha | 16:09 |
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| dhellmann | let's move on to the main topic for today | 16:09 |
| dhellmann | #topic summit planning | 16:09 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-summit-planning | 16:09 |
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| dhellmann | as we discussed last week, and as I said in the ML thread mentioned above, we need to give ttx an estimate for the number of each type of room we will need at the summit | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | we have a few good sessions proposed already | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | I can probably use that to extrapolate for the next cycle, but I'd like hard numbers if possible | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | does anyone have ideas for topics that we'll need to discuss? | 16:11 |
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| dhellmann | and especially do any of the library leads feel like it would be useful to have the smaller working sessions? | 16:14 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, if everyone is shy... versionedobjects, I need to understand how it applies to neutron. | 16:15 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: are you asking for a "tutorial" style session with dansmith? or more of a discussion? | 16:17 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, I guess I will be ok with someone giving walk through | 16:18 |
| ihrachyshka | I tried to get the idea from docs, but failed | 16:18 |
| ihrachyshka | maybe it's just me | 16:18 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: maybe that's different from item #6 on the etherpad then | 16:18 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, that's for advanced users, which I am not | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I would have to ask dansmith if he's up for doing an introductory walk-through session | 16:20 |
| dansmith | sure | 16:20 |
| ihrachyshka | thanks | 16:20 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith: great, I added a fishbowl session for that | 16:22 |
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| bnemec | +1 to that. I got a lot of similar questions last summit about objects. | 16:23 |
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| dhellmann | rpodolyaka, viktors : I added a placeholder for an oslo.db session, but it could use more info about what would actually be a useful format for you | 16:24 |
| rpodolyaka | dhellmann: ok. got it. thanks | 16:25 |
| viktors | dhellmann: ok, thanks. | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | sileht: I added a session on zmq, but if you want a more general one for oslo.messaging we should add that, too | 16:26 |
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| flaper87 | I'd probably vote for a more general one | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | sileht:I went ahead and added a placeholder, too | 16:26 |
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| flaper87 | I think there are a couple of things we might want to discuss w.r.t o.m | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | keep in mind that sessions based on specific proposals will need to have specs filed | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann set up specs repo to accept liberty specs | 16:27 |
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| dhellmann | flaper87: can you add topics to item #9 in the etherpad? | 16:28 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: absolutely | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: great, thanks | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll keep pinging people individually for more topics today and try to have an estimate tomorrow | 16:30 |
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| dhellmann | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing work & Review priorities (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:31 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-kilo | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/kilo-3 | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | Is anyone blocked on work we prioritized for this release? | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: do you need any help with versionedobjects reviews? | 16:32 |
| dansmith | dhellmann: not currently, dims has been staying on top of them pretty well | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: excellent; thanks, dims__! | 16:33 |
| dansmith | indeed, thanks dims__ :) | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | we have some clean up work for the policy release and some of our tooling in the incubator: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack%2Foslo-incubator+is:open,n,z | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | it doesn't sound like we're blocked anywhere, though | 16:34 |
| dhellmann | #topic Releases for this week | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for this week (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:35 | |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.utils, oslo.config, and oslo.i18n have been released | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | #info expect releases of oslo.db, oslo.messaging, oslo.serialization, oslo.concurrency, and oslotest today or tomorrow | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | we have a few other libs with minor changes, but I think that's a big enough dump for one week | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | unless there is something critical that I missed? | 16:36 |
| viktors | we are having issues with unittest with a new oslo.db in Ironic | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | viktors: what's the nature of the issue? | 16:36 |
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| viktors | Ironic patches timeutils from oslo.utils, and it uses oslo.utils, but oslo.db uses oslo_utils | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | ah | 16:37 |
| viktors | so in some cases timeutils leaves unpatched | 16:37 |
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| dhellmann | right | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | that should be easy enough to fix with a patch to ironic's tests | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | where are they on adopting the new import style? | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | GheRivero: ^^ | 16:38 |
| viktors | yes, but we can't just replace olso.utils to oslo_utils in Ironic because of the same issue | 16:38 |
| viktors | there is a patch on review | 16:39 |
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| viktors | I'm going to investigate this tomorrow | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | viktors: this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149450/ | 16:39 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: yes, this one | 16:40 |
| ihrachyshka | viktors, patch both? | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | viktors: perhaps we should provide a fixture for the tests, instead of expecting them to mock out the function | 16:40 |
| * dims__ peeks | 16:40 | |
| dhellmann | I'd have to look at what the test is doing | 16:41 |
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| viktors | ihrachyshka: sounds reasonable, we made this in ironic some time ago | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | ok, we can hold off on the oslo.db release until we sort this out | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | although if releasing oslo.db makes this simpler for ironic, we can go ahead | 16:42 |
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| dims__ | dhellmann: on the same note, we need one more review to cleanup oslo-incubator's imports (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155869/) we still have oslo.config there | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | that's it for the formal agenda today | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:43 |
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| dhellmann | does anyone have anything else to bring up? | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | dims__: thanks, I'll look at that today if no one beats me to it | 16:43 |
| dims__ | dhellmann: the oslo.policy LOG.info, are we all on board the latest review? | 16:44 |
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| dhellmann | dims__: the one about the missing diretories? | 16:44 |
| dims__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154742/ | 16:44 |
| dims__ | y | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | dims__: yeah, bnemec approved that one just a little while ago | 16:45 |
| dims__ | cool, follow up, do we fix oslo-incubator copy now? | 16:45 |
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| bnemec | I think we need to. | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | dims__: yeah, if we're seeing lots of issues in test jobs we should | 16:45 |
| dims__ | or we wait to get rid of policy.py entirely | 16:45 |
| dims__ | +1 bnemec | 16:46 |
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| dhellmann | I suspect that backporting to the incubator is going to be pointless given the amount of time it takes to sync the code into projects, but we can make the gesture | 16:46 |
| dims__ | right dhellmann | 16:46 |
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| bnemec | There were over 100 million hits on this log message in CI recently. I think they'll be motivated to sync. :-) | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | speaking of oslo.policy, we should give it a hard look in the next day or two so we can prepare the first release | 16:47 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: sounds like it | 16:47 |
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| dims__ | one more, do we continue to add default log levels to oslo.log? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.log/+bug/1422075 or push back to add project specific ones | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1422075 in oslo.log "urllib3.util.retry prints not so useful debug messages" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to ZhiQiang Fan (aji-zqfan) | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | dims__: we talked about that at the summit | 16:49 |
| * dhellmann thinks back that far | 16:49 | |
| dims__ | y if i remember right, we are going for project specific ones | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | I think we said we would have an app-specific logger with useful level and then the root logger would only emit error or something, so that libraries would by default be quiet | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | right, I think we're saying the same thing | 16:51 |
| dims__ | dhellmann: this one is a log level for urllib3 | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | but for now we could add an exception for urllib3, because the other change is bigger | 16:51 |
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| dims__ | ok | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | and we don't have a spec for the logging stuff | 16:51 |
| * dhellmann adds a logging working session to the summit planning | 16:52 | |
| dims__ | dhellmann: url? | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | sdague: I added a summit session for us to work out changes to oslo.log: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-summit-planning | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | dims__: ^^ | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | sdague: we should see about some specs before then | 16:53 |
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| dhellmann | we're about out of time, does anyone have anything else we need to discuss? | 16:54 |
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| dims__ | all set | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | ok, that's it then | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | thanks, everyone! | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 16 16:56:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-02-16-16.00.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-02-16-16.00.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-02-16-16.00.log.html | 16:56 |
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| davidlenwell | Just a heads up for anyone popping up here for the refstack weekly meetings.. we're skipping this week.. We have a face to face on wednesday.. everyone has plenty to do. Catch you next week. | 18:58 |
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| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:03 |
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| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko__: see davidlenwell: message above we are skippong this week's IRC.. | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko__ | Oh! I just have seen it | 19:10 |
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