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| ozstacker | ambassador meeting tiem anyone? | 08:00 |
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| mrmartin | hi | 08:01 |
| mrmartin | o/ | 08:01 |
| ozstacker | hello mrmartin | 08:02 |
| kavit | hi | 08:02 |
| ozstacker | hey kavit | 08:03 |
| mrmartin | #startmeeting ambassadors | 08:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 08:03:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrmartin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ambassadors)" | 08:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ambassadors' | 08:03 |
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| mrmartin | #topic review actions from last meeting | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: ambassadors)" | 08:03 | |
| mrmartin | so a quick summary of last two weeks | 08:03 |
| mrmartin | I've drop an email about T-Shirt and Badge appearance on Vancouver Summit to Lauren, and I got a positive feedback | 08:04 |
| mrmartin | so the Badge will be ok, we'll get an Ambassador label | 08:04 |
| mrmartin | I think we need to collect the T-Shirt sizes and I can send it to Lauren | 08:05 |
| ozstacker | hows that gonna go with us BoD members :-) | 08:05 |
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| ozstacker | I'm kidding! | 08:05 |
| ozstacker | I dont really mind what's on my badge | 08:06 |
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| mrmartin | yeap, it makes a visibility of the ambassadors in some form | 08:06 |
| mrmartin | so the speaker list, they'll look after the data, but I guess at the end we need to build the database from scratch. | 08:07 |
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| mrmartin | ok, and we moved some user group organizers to the groups portal, but mostly from EU | 08:09 |
| mrmartin | hi fifieldt | 08:09 |
| mrmartin | so we have a little progress here, and I like to ask a little activity from all of you | 08:09 |
| * fifieldt waves | 08:10 | |
| mrmartin | I've setup the reporting on the portal, so we need to move the group organizers there, and clean-up the data sources | 08:11 |
| mrmartin | for example I've realized, some groups meetup account is expired, and they are no longer seems to be active | 08:11 |
| ozstacker | ok | 08:11 |
| fifieldt | yeah, there will be a few of those | 08:12 |
| fifieldt | this is a good time to prune, I guess? | 08:12 |
| ozstacker | i have a couple things in TTD. Survey and group organiser rego. | 08:12 |
| mrmartin | yeah, cleanup the groups database, we also have some unknown / non-responding groups here | 08:13 |
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| mrmartin | and one more think, if some groups is using linkeding, we could ask them gently to switch, because the linkedin is closing there API-s, and it will be impossible to retrieve data from there. | 08:14 |
| ozstacker | ok | 08:14 |
| mrmartin | so that's all from my side actually | 08:15 |
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| ozstacker | thats great mrmartin. Really appreciate your work on all this :) | 08:17 |
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| mrmartin | ok, do we have any other topic to discuss today? | 08:19 |
| fifieldt | new group in turkey starting up | 08:19 |
| fifieldt | I sent the details to mrmartin and erwan | 08:19 |
| mrmartin | yes, awesome, Turkistan | 08:20 |
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| ozstacker | i dont have anything more | 08:22 |
| mrmartin | #info new user group in Turkey | 08:22 |
| kavit_ | same here | 08:23 |
| mrmartin | ok then I suggest to work on the group organizer registration, and sending out marcelo's survey for them | 08:23 |
| mrmartin | so we'll have the data for our Vancouver session. | 08:23 |
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| ozstacker | yep | 08:28 |
| mrmartin | #action send notificiations to group owners to register on groups portal | 08:28 |
| ozstacker | all good | 08:28 |
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| mrmartin | ok, than thank you for coming. | 08:28 |
| ozstacker | thank you for hosting! | 08:28 |
| mrmartin | if anyone have question regarding the portal, feel free to ping me. | 08:28 |
| ozstacker | I think you should be made Chairman of the Ambassadors! | 08:29 |
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| mrmartin | #endmeeting | 08:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 08:30:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2015/ambassadors.2015-02-17-08.03.html | 08:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2015/ambassadors.2015-02-17-08.03.txt | 08:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ambassadors/2015/ambassadors.2015-02-17-08.03.log.html | 08:30 |
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| mrmartin | yeah, we're sitting in the middle of both timezones with Erwan. | 08:30 |
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| baoli | #startmeeting PCI Passthrough | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 13:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is baoli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'pci_passthrough' | 13:00 |
| baoli | Hi there | 13:00 |
| beagles | hi | 13:00 |
| zzz_pczesno | hi | 13:01 |
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| baoli | before we start, I want to ask everybody's opinion on whether it's still useful to continue this weekly IRC meeting, and if it is, what you'd like the agenda to be like, and how we go about it. | 13:04 |
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| moshele | hi | 13:05 |
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| baoli | moshele, hi | 13:05 |
| baoli | moshele, haven't got a chance to look at your review after you made further change | 13:06 |
| moshele | baoil: ok, with your +1 it will be easier to push upstream | 13:07 |
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| baoli | moshele, will do this week. | 13:08 |
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| moshele | mriedem said the we may need blueprint , but I guess with your +1 he will allow it as wish list bug | 13:09 |
| baoli | moshele, let's try | 13:10 |
| pczesno | baoli: i think this meeting is useful, but maybe we should do it biweekly | 13:11 |
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| beagles | I concur with pczesno. We can rely on the mailing list for interim communications. | 13:13 |
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| baoli | sounds good to me. | 13:14 |
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| baoli | so starting from this week, we'll do the meeting biweekly. | 13:15 |
| beagles | +1 | 13:15 |
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| baoli | how about the agenda? | 13:16 |
| pczesno | baoli: I'm ok with the old format, do You have something specific in mind? | 13:18 |
| baoli | pczesno: not really. Just thinking that everyone can update it with the topics he/she wants to bring up for the next meeting in order for it to be productive. | 13:20 |
| baoli | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Passthrough | 13:21 |
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| baoli | ok, let's go over today's agenda | 13:23 |
| baoli | #topic bugs | 13:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: PCI Passthrough)" | 13:23 | |
| baoli | moshele: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1406486. I thought that you fixed it from inside nova. But not sure it's the same root cause | 13:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1406486 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Suspending an instance fails when using vnic_type=direct" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele) | 13:23 |
| moshele | baoli: the issue it in glance client and nova | 13:25 |
| baoli | moshele: it's just that the symptom seems to be the same as that you've fixed. | 13:26 |
| moshele | yes mriedem +2 it | 13:27 |
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| moshele | the fix in nova so we won't be depended on glance client fix which is not released yet | 13:29 |
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| baoli | moshele, ok, got it. | 13:29 |
| baoli | anything else on bugs? | 13:30 |
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| moshele | there is this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1391816 | 13:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1391816 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[pci-passthrough] nova-scheduler throws a 500 when PCI passthrough is used if the PCI passthrough scheduler has not been added" [Low,Triaged] | 13:31 |
| moshele | I think it is invalid | 13:32 |
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| baoli | moshele, I agree. | 13:33 |
| baoli | #topic reviews | 13:35 |
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| baoli | I will try to update this section before next meeting. | 13:36 |
| baoli | pczesno: congrates on the Numa change being merged successfully | 13:36 |
| pczesno | thanks | 13:37 |
| pczesno | we are setting up a CI to test this | 13:37 |
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| baoli | pczesno: that's good news. CI has been a blocker for sr-iov related BPs. | 13:38 |
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| pczesno | baoli: i heard yongli has the sriov testing runnig now | 13:39 |
| baoli | pczesno, that's great. | 13:40 |
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| baoli | I'm hoping cisco willl have one ready before the L release. | 13:43 |
| baoli | seems that we have both Blueprints and CI covered, and we can head into Open Discussion. | 13:45 |
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| baoli | I've update the meeting wiki with next meeting's time, and the meeting is changed to be biweekly. | 13:46 |
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| baoli | If nothing else we'd like to talk about now, let's meet on Mar. 3rd. | 13:47 |
| pczesno | baoli: ok, let's talk in two weeks | 13:47 |
| baoli | Thanks everyone. | 13:48 |
| baoli | #endmeeting | 13:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 13:48:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2015/pci_passthrough.2015-02-17-13.00.html | 13:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2015/pci_passthrough.2015-02-17-13.00.txt | 13:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/pci_passthrough/2015/pci_passthrough.2015-02-17-13.00.log.html | 13:48 |
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| ihrachyshka | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rackertom | Hello | 15:01 |
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| sc68cal | hello | 15:01 |
| aveiga | o./ | 15:01 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 15:02:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:02 |
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| sc68cal | My agenda is pretty light - so we'll go quickly through bps, bugs, and code reviews then give the majority of the time over to open discussion | 15:03 |
| sc68cal | #topic blueprints | 15:03 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:03 | |
| sc68cal | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-3 K-3 blueprints | 15:03 |
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| sc68cal | Make sure if you have a blueprint slated for K-3 you've pushed something into Gerrit | 15:04 |
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| sc68cal | per mestery's e-mail on the ML last week, even if it's WIP it'll help prepare reviewers | 15:04 |
| mestery | sc68cal: ++ | 15:04 |
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| sc68cal | and maybe get some of the mandatory nit-picking and bike-shedding out of the way | 15:05 |
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| sc68cal | early | 15:05 |
| sc68cal | unless we have any BPs to discuss, I'll move on | 15:06 |
| sc68cal | I plan on talking about baoli's e-mail on the ML in open discussion | 15:06 |
| ihrachyshka | sc68cal, when will we discuss dibbler patches issue? | 15:06 |
| sc68cal | :) | 15:06 |
| sc68cal | #topic code reviews | 15:07 |
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| sc68cal | dane_leblanc has some stuff in gerrit that we need to all take a look at, around the l3 agent | 15:07 |
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| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/149068 | 15:08 |
| dane_leblanc | sc68cal: That's actually one of the patches for the multi-prefix blueprint | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | Yep :) | 15:08 |
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| dane_leblanc | Although the topic lists it as a bug because it's a partial fix for that | 15:09 |
| ihrachyshka | wow, it's huge | 15:09 |
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| sc68cal | I happen to disagree with the people -1'ing it for size | 15:09 |
| dane_leblanc | ihrachyshka: Yes, it changed some things in the port dictionary that unfortunately spread far and wide | 15:10 |
| sc68cal | honestly it's just a big piece of work, to refactor the L3 agent to make it not bug out when dual stack ports are added | 15:10 |
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| aveiga | dane_leblanc: pardon my ignorance of the code, but does this expecet a GUA for IPv6? | 15:10 |
| aveiga | how will you issue an RA? | 15:10 |
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| dane_leblanc | You can set up for SLAAC on the gateway port | 15:10 |
| aveiga | even with DHCPv6 though, you need to send a LLA-source RA to provide the M and/or O bits | 15:11 |
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| sc68cal | I'm mostly looking for this patch to help solve https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1401728 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1401728 in neutron "Routing updates lost when multiple IPs attached to router" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins) | 15:11 |
| dane_leblanc | aveiga: This is for the M and/or O bits on the external network? | 15:12 |
| aveiga | no, for the VMs | 15:12 |
| dane_leblanc | aveiga: The internal networks and router interfaces will be addressed with another commit being worked on by dboik | 15:12 |
| aveiga | oh, this is setting the GUA of the external? My apologies for the confusion. Carry on | 15:13 |
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| dboik | aveiga: This one is for internal ports https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156360/ | 15:14 |
| aveiga | dboik: thanks! | 15:14 |
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| sc68cal | any other reviews folks want to discuss or bring to the group's attention? | 15:15 |
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| sc68cal | #topic bugs | 15:17 |
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| sc68cal | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=ipv6 IPv6 tagged bugs | 15:17 |
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| sc68cal | #action sc68cal needs to triage more bugs | 15:18 |
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| sc68cal | dane_leblanc: I'm taking a look at ndisc6, per https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1357068 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1357068 in neutron "Arping doesn't work with IPv6" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dane LeBlanc (leblancd) | 15:19 |
| sc68cal | I think what is going to need to be done is create a new helper binary for Neutron to do NDP packet sending | 15:20 |
| sc68cal | and pick an apropriate packet injection library | 15:20 |
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| haleyb | sc68cal: why do we need this if we're routing? i.e. no floating ipv6 | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | arping is only used when we add a FIP, right? | 15:22 |
| sc68cal | I think for HA routers there is still a need, but that's a good point | 15:22 |
| SridharG | sc68cal: also I think it Router Advt would serve the same purpose isnt it? | 15:22 |
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| haleyb | i know in baoli's spec there is mention of doing an NA, but that's not been implemented | 15:23 |
| sc68cal | I know dane_leblanc 's patches also help remove some of those arping errors | 15:23 |
| sc68cal | by guarding the code path with an ip version check | 15:23 |
| haleyb | yes, i think that one patch removes all the arping errors | 15:23 |
| * haleyb needs to review again | 15:23 | |
| sc68cal | basically dane_leblanc is the superstar now | 15:24 |
| dane_leblanc | sc68cal: Whhaaa? | 15:24 |
| sc68cal | joking ;) | 15:24 |
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| dane_leblanc | sc68cal: I'll have to look deeper into what the bug is asking for, I only know some of the arping errors are addressed with my patch set. | 15:25 |
| haleyb | and i can understand how it got so large as i started pulling the thread on fixing just the arp issue and went down the rabbit hole... | 15:25 |
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| sc68cal | yep - it gets nasty quick in the l3 agent | 15:27 |
| SridharG | I'm still a bit confused on why we need arpping for HA IPv6 routers when RA would serve the purpose.. | 15:27 |
| SridharG | this was discussed earlier - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/044340.html | 15:27 |
| aveiga | +1 to SridharG | 15:27 |
| SridharG | am I missing something? | 15:27 |
| sc68cal | no, you are probably correct | 15:27 |
| SridharG | I have verified this locally in my setup and see that it works. | 15:28 |
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| sc68cal | ok, we'll circle back on this once the L3 fixes are in, and see if there is anything we need to do | 15:29 |
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| sc68cal | hopefully just guarding all the arping code paths with a version check will get us in the clear | 15:29 |
| haleyb | i think it was robert's "IPv6 DVR routers" patches that needed ndisc6, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143917/ and associated spec | 15:30 |
| sc68cal | then plot out the code paths for sending an RA when needed | 15:30 |
| SridharG | haleyb: +1 | 15:30 |
| sc68cal | any other bugs before I open the floor? | 15:32 |
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| sc68cal | #topic open discussion | 15:33 |
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| rackertom | Hello all. Just a quick Q. | 15:35 |
| rackertom | What seems to be the most popular IPv6 config in use or as requested by users? SLAAC, DHCPv6, some manual option? Or a wonky combination of all of the above? | 15:36 |
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| sc68cal | I don't think we've ever had a survey about ipv6 deployment configs | 15:37 |
| HenryG | rackertom: I think you should ask on the general ML, or the operators ML. | 15:37 |
| HenryG | sc68cal: ++, give rackertom an action item ;) | 15:37 |
| rackertom | I'm just now dipping my toe into this community, so I've quietly attended a couple of these meetings to get the feel and tone. | 15:38 |
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| rackertom | I'll gladly join the ML and survey | 15:38 |
| sc68cal | It would be great to get an ipv6 question for how people are deploying ipv6 in the openstack user survey they do every summut | 15:38 |
| sc68cal | *summit | 15:38 |
| aveiga | sc68cal: +1 | 15:38 |
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| aveiga | who runs that survey? | 15:39 |
| rackertom | sc68cal: Agreed. I think it would let everybody here know which features hold more priority generally speaking | 15:39 |
| sc68cal | I think ttx | 15:39 |
| aveiga | give me an action item to reach out | 15:39 |
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| sc68cal | honestly i'd be ok with an unofficial surveymonkey survey shared with the operators | 15:39 |
| sc68cal | or google doc thingy | 15:39 |
| sc68cal | *google form | 15:40 |
| aveiga | sc68cal: can you give me an action item to reach out to Tom Fifield regarding surveying operators? | 15:40 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: will do | 15:40 |
| HenryG | awesome, thanks aveiga! | 15:40 |
| sc68cal | #action aveiga reach out to those responsible for surveying operators about gathering IPv6 deployment information | 15:40 |
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| HenryG | ihrachyshka: about the dibbler thing - john-davidge is here and can give an update | 15:42 |
| john-davidge | ihrachyshka: happy to answer any questions | 15:43 |
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| ihrachyshka | john-davidge, so how do we plan to get patches in u/s dibbler? | 15:43 |
| john-davidge | aveiga: I think Henry said you had contact with the dibbler maintainers? | 15:44 |
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| aveiga | john-davidge: I worked with the original author a while back | 15:44 |
| aveiga | I don't know if he'll accept the pull request or not, but I can ask | 15:44 |
| john-davidge | ihrachyshka: Also, we are cureently looking into isc_dhcp as an alternative to dibbler. So far it seems to have everything we need without any updates required, but we're not 100% on that just yet | 15:45 |
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| john-davidge | aveiga: thanks, I linked to the repo with our updates in the thread on the ML | 15:45 |
| aveiga | john-davidge: that might be the faster route (isc) | 15:45 |
| aveiga | john-davidge: yup, I have a tab opened here :) | 15:46 |
| john-davidge | aveiga: Yes, if ISC has everything we need already then the dibbler updates wont hold us up | 15:46 |
| ihrachyshka | john-davidge, I have some exp with isc code, so in case you need help, I can try. | 15:46 |
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| john-davidge | ihrachyshka: Great! I might send you an email if we get stuck :) | 15:47 |
| ihrachyshka | john-davidge, cool, so the best thing would be to use smth working from stock | 15:47 |
| john-davidge | ihrachyshka: Exactly, yes | 15:47 |
| ihrachyshka | those dibbler patches scare me this time in cycle | 15:47 |
| aveiga | It might help to know that the guy who wrote dibbler works at ISC :-P | 15:47 |
| john-davidge | aveiga: aha, it's all coming together! | 15:48 |
| john-davidge | ihrachyshka: just trying to get ISC to play nice with running a custom script after PD assignment now | 15:49 |
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| baoli | ihrachyshka: do you foresee the same issues with ISC as we listed with dibbler on the thread? | 15:50 |
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| ihrachyshka | baoli, nah, I haven't actually checked what you need, my exp was more in bind9, so what I meant was help with coding in case smth arises. but no, I don't know whether they have all needed. | 15:51 |
| ihrachyshka | but you said above that it seems like everything is in place, right? | 15:51 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka: ok, no problem. we'll find out soon. | 15:51 |
| baoli | ihrachyshka, we're still in the process of evaluation. | 15:52 |
| john-davidge | ihrachyshka: so far a lot of the features we need are there, but we'll know about everything soon | 15:53 |
| ihrachyshka | ack, thanks for looking into alternatives | 15:53 |
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| sc68cal | ok everyone, if there isn't anything else, I'll see everyone next week! | 15:58 |
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| sdake_ws | sc68cal can you #endmeeting pls? | 15:59 |
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| sdake_ws | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| sdake_ws | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | sdake_ws: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 16:00 |
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| * sdake_ws groans | 16:01 | |
| haleyb | #endmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 16:01 |
| haleyb | i had to try :( | 16:01 |
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| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 16:01:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-02-17-15.02.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-02-17-15.02.txt | 16:01 |
| sdake_ws | thanks sc68cal | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-02-17-15.02.log.html | 16:01 |
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| sdake_ws | #startmeeting containers | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 16:01:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake_ws. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:02 |
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| sdake_ws | #topic rollcall | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:02 | |
| apmelton | Andrew Melton | 16:02 |
| apmelton | o/ | 16:02 |
| hongbin | Hongbin Lu | 16:02 |
| sdake_ws | steak here | 16:02 |
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| diga_ | Digambar Patil | 16:02 |
| daneyon_ | Daneyon Hansen | 16:02 |
| pradk | o/ | 16:02 |
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| sdake_ws | #topic agenda | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:03 | |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:03 |
| thomasem | Thomas MAddox | 16:03 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-02-17_1600_UTC | 16:04 |
| sdake_ws | anyone have anythign to add to the agenda? | 16:04 |
| sdake_ws | first adrian is in tahiti sipping on mai tais. | 16:04 |
| sdake_ws | Or somethitng | 16:04 |
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| sdake_ws | he is on PTO atleast for 2 weeks, not sure where :) | 16:04 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle | 16:05 |
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| sdake_ws | there is info on our midcycle | 16:05 |
| sdake_ws | if you prevoiusly signed up and won't be able to make it, plesae email adrian_otto@rackspace.com with your regrets | 16:05 |
| sdake_ws | it may be adrian.otto :) | 16:05 |
| sdake_ws | not sure | 16:05 |
| thomasem | sdake_ws, should be adrian.otto | 16:05 |
| sdake_ws | #topic blueprint review | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprint review (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:05 | |
| thomasem | lemme double check for you | 16:06 |
| thomasem | yes, adrian.otto | 16:06 |
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| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/milestone-2 | 16:06 |
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| sdake_ws | lets go down the blueprints 1:1 and either indicate whether it will definately get done, is in risk, or should be pushed out | 16:07 |
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| sdake_ws | sorting by priority high to low | 16:07 |
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| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb | 16:08 |
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| sdake_ws | this absolutely needs to be done and I'm working on it - should be wrapped up | 16:08 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-bay-status | 16:08 |
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| sdake_ws | yuanying any word on progress? | 16:10 |
| thomasem | Don't think yuanying is here? | 16:10 |
| sdake_ws | ya not here | 16:10 |
| sdake_ws | bummer | 16:10 |
| thomasem | yup | 16:10 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-kubernetes | 16:11 |
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| sdake_ws | was wkharold here? | 16:11 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/multi-tenant | 16:11 |
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| sdake_ws | jay-lau-513 multi-tenant coming along ? | 16:11 |
| sdake_ws | oh ya implemented nice :) | 16:12 |
| sdake_ws | horizontal scale - I think is important but I wont' have time this cycle, so bumping to next cycle | 16:12 |
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| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-docker-backend-selection | 16:13 |
| sdake_ws | apmelton any word on that spec? | 16:13 |
| apmelton | sdake_ws: so that should be pushed back to M3 | 16:13 |
| apmelton | it's sorta the over arching epic | 16:13 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/introduce-coreos | 16:14 |
| sdake_ws | digiamabar coreos support ? | 16:14 |
| diga_ | Yes, | 16:14 |
| diga_ | Will commit all the code by tomorrow | 16:14 |
| sdake_ws | nice ! | 16:15 |
| diga_ | :) | 16:15 |
| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/native-docker-network | 16:15 |
| sdake_ws | this doesn't have an assignee | 16:15 |
| sdake_ws | so I am just going to bump it right now | 16:15 |
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| sdake_ws | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/docker-bay-heat-template | 16:16 |
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| apmelton | that's making good progress and I'll probably have it out of WIP today | 16:16 |
| apmelton | just need to get a README written and move it into magnum's tree | 16:17 |
| sdake_ws | your goal there is to have a swarm-based heat template? | 16:17 |
| apmelton | yes | 16:17 |
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| sdake_ws | ok well thats all the blueprints | 16:18 |
| sdake_ws | we got a bundle of work to do | 16:18 |
| sdake_ws | and we only have a couple weeks to get it done | 16:18 |
| pradk | did you miss python-k8sclient ? | 16:18 |
| sdake_ws | oh ya, hows that come pradk | 16:18 |
| sdake_ws | I think we are stuck behind upstream on that one | 16:18 |
| pradk | well, here is what we have now: | 16:18 |
| diga_ | sdake: can we push native-Docker-support to next ml3 | 16:19 |
| pradk | - I have the python-kubernetes client packages uploaded to pypi | 16:19 |
| sdake_ws | diga_ link to blueprint pls | 16:19 |
| diga_ | Ok | 16:19 |
| diga_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/native-docker-network | 16:19 |
| sdake_ws | that python-kubernetes is read only tho, so it doesn't totally solve the job | 16:19 |
| pradk | - I also have the first cut on implementing this, but for now uses the config.. we're blocked on secure-kubernetes bp | 16:19 |
| pradk | to leverage bay obj | 16:19 |
| diga_ | I can work on that | 16:20 |
| sdake_ws | diga_ I pushed that alread yto milestone #3 | 16:20 |
| diga_ | Ok | 16:20 |
| pradk | read only for now..it has support for put and post, just need to expose it | 16:20 |
| sdake_ws | pradk well we need to get the upstream sorted out | 16:20 |
| sdake_ws | but sounds like your on it ;) | 16:20 |
| pradk | the upstream doesn't exist from the guy we forked.. so upstream now is my repo :) | 16:21 |
| sdake_ws | #topic open discussion | 16:21 |
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| sdake_ws | short meeting t oday looks like :) | 16:21 |
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| sdake_ws | Anyone have any open discussion they would like to bring up? | 16:21 |
| daneyon_ | vote #link http://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver//Presentation/magnum-containers-as-a-service-for-openstack | 16:22 |
| daneyon_ | and another #link http://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/how-to-develop-magnumcontainer-as-a-service-using-vagrant-and-devstack | 16:23 |
| daneyon_ | any others? | 16:23 |
| pradk | sdake_ws, so to complete the above conversation.. should we just punt this to m3 until upstream is sorted out? | 16:23 |
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| sdake_ws | I think what woudl make sense is to check out the other api system pradk | 16:24 |
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| sdake_ws | because it may be simpler then all this other nonsense ;) | 16:24 |
| jolsen | I'll add to the self promotion -https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/modernizing-your-applications | 16:24 |
| * sdake_ws groans | 16:25 | |
| sdake_ws | ok thanks folks | 16:25 |
| sdake_ws | enjoy | 16:25 |
| sdake_ws | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 16:25:20 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-02-17-16.01.html | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-02-17-16.01.txt | 16:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-02-17-16.01.log.html | 16:25 |
| thomasem | cheers! | 16:25 |
| apmelton | o/ | 16:25 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 17:00:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
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| sergmelikyan | Hi folks :) | 17:02 |
| katyafervent | Hi guys! | 17:02 |
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| jolsen | hello all | 17:03 |
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| katyafervent | Do we have action items from the previous meeting? | 17:04 |
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| StanLagun | hi | 17:04 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 17:04 |
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| RadekPospisil | hi | 17:05 |
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| sergmelikyan | katyafervent, not really :) We can skip this part of the meeting | 17:05 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Blueprint Discussion | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | #1 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/package-drag-drop-upload | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | How package uploading form should be look like? Should we just have drag-and-drop window or keep regular button too? | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | I would say that I love when you can do both, it is convenient | 17:06 |
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| katyafervent | Recently we discussed new feature with jolsen | 17:07 |
| jolsen | I like the idea of having both options as well | 17:07 |
| katyafervent | So I suggest to keep regular button, but provide opportunity to upload multiple files | 17:07 |
| ativelkov | +1 on both. That's similar to what people have in modern UIs | 17:07 |
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| jolsen | Sure. Here is the example I pulled from for the button https://blueimp.github.io/jQuery-File-Upload/angularjs.html | 17:08 |
| ruhe | o/ | 17:08 |
| sergmelikyan | Multiple files? | 17:08 |
| katyafervent | It should be done in one blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/new-button-upload | 17:08 |
| katyafervent | yes, several files at once | 17:08 |
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| katyafervent | Now files are uploaded only after 'next' button is clicked | 17:09 |
| sergmelikyan | How we are going to proceed with later steps for each one of them> | 17:09 |
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| katyafervent | Hmm | 17:09 |
| jolsen | The way to upload packages now is clicking select file button, choose 1 file, next > go back do the same, etc. etc. | 17:10 |
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| katyafervent | Should we add a separate button for that? | 17:10 |
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| jolsen | Eliminiating the back and forth would be great | 17:10 |
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| ativelkov | Why don't we have ability to select multiple files? | 17:10 |
| jolsen | ativelkov, is that referring to the capability currently? | 17:11 |
| sergmelikyan | jolsen, we need to select category for the each package + edit tags, privacy settings and so on | 17:11 |
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| katyafervent | That;s how it was implemented, so I think everyone agreed that we need this feature | 17:11 |
| sergmelikyan | jolsen, how it is going to look like? | 17:11 |
| jolsen | BP 1 - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/new-button-upload | 17:12 |
| katyafervent | sergmelikyan, let's provide ideas and pick the best one | 17:12 |
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| jolsen | BP2 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/package-drag-drop-upload | 17:12 |
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| jolsen | the first BP is a really rough mockup I whipped up in a few min | 17:13 |
| jolsen | But I think within the upload modal there should be the ability to select and/or add a category for the package and create tags | 17:14 |
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| katyafervent | I suggest to add ability to edit parameters that would be common for all the packages | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev | I humbly think, that uploading multiple files introduces difficult UI/logic choices. What if one of the files is invalid — should the whole batch be considered invalid or should we just ignore the file? | 17:15 |
| katyafervent | so categories and tags will be common for a group of packages that will be uploaded at once | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | I agree that having ability to drag-n-drop instead selecting files is really nice improvement, having ability to upload multiple applications makes it just awesome. But we need to think more about implementation | 17:15 |
| jolsen | I agree sergmelikyan | 17:15 |
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| jolsen | If one package fails, it shouldnt stop the rest of the upload. Give an error message specific to that package | 17:16 |
| katyafervent | jolsen, don't you mind, that we create an action item for you? :) | 17:16 |
| jolsen | and what would that be? :) | 17:17 |
| katyafervent | could you prepare some kind of specification with implementation details | 17:17 |
| jolsen | Sure, I can take ownership of that | 17:17 |
| sergmelikyan | jolsen, we use murano-specs for writing specifications for blueprints, it would be nice if you will have simple spec for this feature drafted-up. I am talking about first bp (about multiple uploads at once) | 17:18 |
| ruhe | katyafervent: i believe we need to provide some links and examples of specs to jolsen | 17:18 |
| jolsen | that would be great ruhe | 17:18 |
| sergmelikyan | Second BP is straightforward enough to implement it without spec | 17:18 |
| katyafervent | that contains answers for questions, that we discussed: how to deal with package editing on the next steps after uploading, how to deal with broken files | 17:19 |
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| ruhe | sergmelikyan: second BP is about drag-n-drop? are you sure it doesn't require some design on both frontend and backend? i.e. i'm not sure if we can skeep spec in this case | 17:19 |
| katyafervent | ruhe, jolsen yeah, I provide examples in our #murano channel and try to answer all the questions | 17:19 |
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| jolsen | not a problem. Thanks ruhe! | 17:20 |
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| katyafervent | ruhe, backend support will be implemented on the first blueprint, which is a dependency | 17:20 |
| ruhe | i see | 17:20 |
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| kzaitsev | But if we decide to allow "bulk-editing" tags, and other attributes of all the packages you uploaded — one would want to fix and re-upload everything all-together. I just want to note that this kind of UI-decisions usually imply a lot of work around them. | 17:23 |
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| sergmelikyan | #action jolsen, sreate spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/package-drag-drop-upload | 17:24 |
| sergmelikyan | #undo | 17:24 |
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| jolsen | where can I find the meeting minutes? | 17:27 |
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| ruhe | jolsen: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/ | 17:28 |
| jolsen | Thank you | 17:28 |
| ruhe | there are also logs for #murano channel http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23murano/ | 17:29 |
| sergmelikyan | jolsen, they are published automatically | 17:29 |
| jolsen | great | 17:29 |
| * sergmelikyan checked the blueprints again | 17:29 | |
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| sergmelikyan | jolsen, what do you think about making first BP a way to just enable drag-n-drop (without multiple files, if it makes sense) and second as a full blown multi-application upload? | 17:30 |
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| jolsen | I would agree with that approach | 17:30 |
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| jolsen | drag-n-drop seems like the lower hanging fruit | 17:30 |
| sergmelikyan | Yeah | 17:31 |
| sergmelikyan | then I suggest to implement first BP without spec, and write spec for the second | 17:31 |
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| jolsen | okay | 17:31 |
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| katyafervent | For me drag and drop for one file does't make sense | 17:31 |
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| sergmelikyan | #action jolsen, create spec for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/package-drag-drop-upload | 17:31 |
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| jolsen | Could the drag-n-drop code be modified to contain a link to select, enabling 1 file to upload? | 17:32 |
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| sergmelikyan | jolsen, not sure that I got you | 17:33 |
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| sergmelikyan | can you explain a little bit? | 17:34 |
| jolsen | What I mean is in a simpler way is, could the existing upload button still exist in the modal to accommodate single file uploads but also have the drag-n-drop box for multi uploads? | 17:34 |
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| jolsen | the drag-n-drop would be the only function to be added since the single file upload button already exists | 17:35 |
| katyafervent | I suggest the opposite way: implement support for multiple file with existing button | 17:35 |
| katyafervent | and then add drag-and-drop | 17:35 |
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| sergmelikyan | I think anyway we need to have button to add files to multi-upload list (just in case drag-n-drop is not an option, take a look to all google drive upload forms) | 17:36 |
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| katyafervent | ruhe, what do you think: which way should we pick? | 17:36 |
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| jolsen | Okay, so it seems there are two schools of though...Some say implement drag-n-drop first, others say multi upload via button first then drag-n-drop | 17:36 |
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| sergmelikyan | But if we want to support multi-upload already in first BP - we need a spec that would describe behaviour in details | 17:36 |
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| jolsen | I think multi-upload is a heavier lift than just the drag-n-drop | 17:37 |
| ruhe | katyafervent: i don't have any strong opnions on that. i think it should be decided by jolsen, since he's the one who's driving this feature :) | 17:37 |
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| sergmelikyan | I have concerns about multi-upload, not with a way how to do it (button, drag-n-drop). Multi upload requires clear spec that will describe how we are handling that/ | 17:37 |
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| katyafervent | sergmelikyan, that's what we expecting | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | How we are handling partial failures, how we are proceeding with category selection and so on | 17:38 |
| jolsen | Okay, so I would say we use sergmelikyan's approach. Take care of low hanging fruit of implementing drag-n-drop first then full blown multi select after...if I understand correctly | 17:39 |
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| sergmelikyan | jolsen, BP 1 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/new-button-upload, one app upload with drag-n-drop | 17:39 |
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| sergmelikyan | BP 2 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/package-drag-drop-upload multiple uploads with drag-n-drop | 17:40 |
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| sergmelikyan | that was my suggestion :) | 17:41 |
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| katyafervent | +1 | 17:41 |
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| jolsen | So are you saying implement drag and drop for 1 file upload? | 17:42 |
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| sergmelikyan | that was my proposal, but maybe that does not make any sense | 17:43 |
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| jolsen | It doesn't. If drag n drop is going to be implemented, it should support multiple uploads. I think the only thing that needs to be figured out is how to handle failed packkages | 17:44 |
| katyafervent | if it would be look ok and button will still exist, then why not | 17:44 |
| sergmelikyan | Another way is have multiple in a first BP, but that we need spec + answers about how we are handling category selection & other staff for each app | 17:44 |
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| sergmelikyan | jolsen, and how to select category for each (or all) apps | 17:44 |
| jolsen | that's something that would need to be worked out and mocked up | 17:45 |
| jolsen | I don't have an answer to that currently | 17:45 |
| sergmelikyan | I would like to point out that upload form is 3 step wizard, and we need to figure out what to do with last two steps. | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | jolsen, sure | 17:46 |
| katyafervent | yeah. let's think about it and discuss on the next meeting and on #murano channel during the week | 17:46 |
| katyafervent | what's the next topic? | 17:46 |
| jolsen | I agree katyafervent | 17:47 |
| sergmelikyan | jolsen, thank you! | 17:47 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:47 |
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| jolsen | :) | 17:47 |
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| sergmelikyan | Any other topic discus? Or let's get back to the work? :) | 17:52 |
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| katyafervent | Let's finish. Goodbye! | 17:54 |
| ruhe | bye bye. thanks everyone! | 17:54 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 17:54:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-02-17-17.00.html | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-02-17-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-02-17-17.00.log.html | 17:54 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 17 21:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-02-17_2100_UTC | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:00 |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:00 |
| phiche1 | philip cheong | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi ed, murali, philip | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | please take a moment to look through our agenda for today | 21:01 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-02-17_2100_UTC | 21:01 |
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| phiche1 | if only it were so simple on hotel wifi :( | 21:02 |
| muralia | oh cant you access it? | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | :( .. don't worry.. I will paste each item here | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | lets wait for another minute to see if anyone else joins us | 21:03 |
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| devkulkarni | ok, lets proceed | 21:03 |
| phiche1 | yay it loaded finally | 21:03 |
| phiche1 | just slow | 21:03 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| devkulkarni | so recently several new features got added/merged | 21:04 |
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| devkulkarni | I wanted to give an update on those today | 21:04 |
| devkulkarni | (muralia): Creation and usage of custom language packs | 21:04 |
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| devkulkarni | muralia: floor is yours | 21:04 |
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| muralia | dev, should we wait until next week when we have more people here? | 21:04 |
| muralia | or should we continue? | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: good point | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | we can do this again too | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | we do have few folks today | 21:05 |
| muralia | sure. i'll give a brief intro | 21:05 |
| datsun180b | it's going on the record either way | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | so not a bad idea to give brief updates | 21:05 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: right | 21:05 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: cool. | 21:05 |
| muralia | so, one new feature i've worked on this month is the custom languagepack feature. | 21:06 |
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| muralia | basically, this deals with the definition of the run time environment for solums users apps | 21:06 |
| muralia | as an example, if i want to create a python web app which talks to a mysql instance | 21:07 |
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| gpilz | a "stack" as heroku calls them | 21:07 |
| muralia | what i require is the python stack and a lysql ibrary to talk to mysql | 21:07 |
| muralia | *mysql | 21:07 |
| muralia | this requires us to create a custom language pack. | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: our notion of a stack is basically a docker image that has required dependencies | 21:08 |
| muralia | all of the code for this feature has been merged as of today, so you can start using it | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | so muralia, in nutshell, how does it work? | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | do we create a Docker image and then use it in the plan file? | 21:08 |
| muralia | so you need to use the cli to create a languagepack first. | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | to build the application DU? | 21:09 |
| muralia | the command for this is | 21:09 |
| muralia | solum languagepack build <git_repo> <metadata_file> | 21:09 |
| james_li | don't think we can deploy a DU directly | 21:09 |
| muralia | james_li: yes, we create the languagepack first | 21:10 |
| muralia | then include it in the planfile, just a uuid ref, when we create the app | 21:10 |
| muralia | solum languagepack build <git_repo> <metadata_file> | 21:10 |
| devkulkarni | I see. so instead of "auto" that we currently specify, we will specify the uuid of the built language pack? | 21:11 |
| muralia | so the gitrepo we provide needs to have a Dockerfile. which defines what we need in the run time | 21:11 |
| james_li | devkulkarni: or name i thiknk | 21:11 |
| muralia | let me paste a sample planfile here for us to look at. yes, james or name | 21:11 |
| muralia | https://github.com/murali44/python-mysql/blob/master/planfile.yaml | 21:11 |
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| muralia | see the languagepack field in the planfile. this is the uuid of a LP i've created in my own environment. this is how we define a LP to be used, during app creation | 21:12 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 21:13 |
| muralia | now lets see what an LP really is | 21:13 |
| muralia | https://github.com/murali44/solum-languagepack-python | 21:13 |
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| muralia | is a sample python languagepack that i created. it has a dockerfile | 21:13 |
| muralia | if you look in the dockerfile, it just include the libraries i'll need for my app | 21:13 |
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| muralia | notice the existence of a build.sh file which is included in the docker file. | 21:14 |
| muralia | that script will be called by Solum during the build phase of the CI workflow | 21:14 |
| muralia | for python the build phase just installs pip libraries. | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | you mean, the build-app script will call this build.sh? | 21:15 |
| muralia | yes | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: one question | 21:15 |
| muralia | yes | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | in the plan file, you have unittest_cmd attribute | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | what is the purpose of that? | 21:15 |
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| devkulkarni | similary, I see there is run_cmd as well | 21:16 |
| muralia | i was going to get to it after finishing this topic, otherwise we'll be all over the place. | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | could you talk about those? are they related to custom language packs? | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | oh okay | 21:16 |
| muralia | let me finish this and come to that | 21:16 |
| devkulkarni | sorry, continue :) | 21:16 |
| muralia | so basically, i;ve introduced the build.sh file in the languagepack because different things need to happen for different types of apps | 21:17 |
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| muralia | got python it is just installing pip libraries, but we can imagine a java app requiring a 'maven build' command being called to create a war file | 21:17 |
| muralia | of a c++ app needs to be built to create an exe | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | sure | 21:18 |
| muralia | so language specific build steps will go into the build.sh file. | 21:18 |
| gpilz | just to be clear - the users app will run in the docker container created from the custom language pack? | 21:18 |
| muralia | exactly | 21:18 |
| muralia | the solum CI workflow will look for the build.sh file and invoke it | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | so muralia, you are saying that build.sh needs to be provided by custom language pack author | 21:19 |
| muralia | yes | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | i guess makes sense | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | do you have another example of a custom language pack? | 21:20 |
| muralia | james_li might have a java sample. | 21:20 |
| muralia | https://github.com/jamesyli/solum-lp-java | 21:20 |
| mkam | https://github.com/jamesyli/solum-lp-java | 21:20 |
| muralia | found it :) | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: ping | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | in build.sh for the java lang pack, you have a comment to copy the war file | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | is that step missing, or is it not needed? | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | thanks mkam, muralia for the link | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: please continue, while we wait to hear from james_l | 21:22 |
| muralia | so the command solum languagepack build talks the repo url | 21:23 |
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| muralia | takes | 21:23 |
| muralia | and gives us a uuid for the LP | 21:23 |
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| devkulkarni | where do you store the built LP? | 21:23 |
| muralia | next thing to talk about it the test_cmd and the run_cmd in the planfile. | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 21:24 |
| muralia | the test_cmd executes unit tests and this is specified by the user | 21:24 |
| muralia | because we dont want to bind users to a particular tool, for example. | 21:25 |
| datsun180b | tox, for example | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | so the exact command to run should be specified in unittest_cmd? | 21:25 |
| muralia | in the CI flow, solum checks for a test-requirements.txt file in the app repo and install those for the user. | 21:25 |
| muralia | yes, once the requirements are installed, the cmd is executed. | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | whose responsibility is it to ensure that the required tools (pep8, tox) etc. are available for the app? | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | is it user's responsibility to install them as part of custom language pack creation? | 21:26 |
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| muralia | like i mentioned, solum looks for a test-requirement.txt file in the app repo | 21:27 |
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| akshayc | hi | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | right, but there need to be available 'tox' on the runtime environment | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | hi akshayc | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | muralia is getting us up to speed on the custom language pack feature | 21:28 |
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| akshayc | ok…. cool…. | 21:28 |
| muralia | yes, all OS level dependencies are defined in the LP | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: got it | 21:28 |
| muralia | so if you want to use TOX, it needs to be installed on the LP | 21:28 |
| muralia | note that before this happens. solum first downloads the docker image for the LP defined in the planfile. | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | ok, makes sense | 21:28 |
| muralia | builds a new on top of the LP | 21:29 |
| gpilz | seems like we could build a common, base docker image | 21:29 |
| muralia | and runs unit tests in it | 21:29 |
| gpilz | that had stuff like tox, etc. already installed | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: yes, that makes sense | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | we could have custom solum images that have common packages/libraries on them | 21:29 |
| muralia | yes, gpliz, the next step is to figure out a stratergy to create vendor created lp for common usage and make it easy for users to reuse them | 21:30 |
| devkulkarni | we could publish them to docker hub | 21:30 |
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| devkulkarni | muralia: quick question.. | 21:31 |
| muralia | yes | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | where are the custom LPs and DUs stored? | 21:31 |
| muralia | once the unit tests pass, we start from the LP again | 21:31 |
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| muralia | this time we check for a requirements.txt file | 21:31 |
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| akshayc | ok | 21:32 |
| muralia | install those libraries, inject the user code | 21:32 |
| muralia | and include the run_cmd provided in the planfile as our entry point | 21:32 |
| muralia | this now become our DU | 21:32 |
| muralia | which can be deployed. | 21:32 |
| devkulkarni | entry point, as in the entry point on the docker image (DU)? | 21:32 |
| muralia | yes | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 21:33 |
| muralia | so when we deploy the DU, we do "docker run image" | 21:33 |
| muralia | the DU is now stored. | 21:33 |
| muralia | Dev, to answer your question | 21:33 |
| muralia | i've included multiple options for storing LP's and DU's | 21:34 |
| muralia | Docker_registry, glance and swift | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | oh cool | 21:34 |
| muralia | this is to address different requirements for different vendors | 21:34 |
| muralia | the openstack way is to use glance to store images | 21:35 |
| devkulkarni | right | 21:35 |
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| muralia | however, to make use of dockers layering feature | 21:35 |
| muralia | we need to use the docker registry | 21:35 |
| muralia | which is why i've include that too | 21:35 |
| muralia | note that this requires a vendor to now run and operate a docker registry | 21:36 |
| muralia | or use the public docker hub | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | so, LPs and DUs that get stored on docker_registry, are they tenant specific? | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | I am guessing that for glance and swift, you are storing them per tenant | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | is that correct? | 21:36 |
| muralia | no they are not, if vendors need that feature, they need to use swift or glance as the backend | 21:36 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 21:37 |
| muralia | docker registry is not a multi tenant backend yet | 21:37 |
| muralia | theres a new flag called image_storage in solum.conf | 21:37 |
| muralia | you can set that to one of the 3 options ive mentioned | 21:37 |
| devkulkarni | you mean, docker_registry, glance, swift ? | 21:38 |
| muralia | yes | 21:38 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 21:38 |
| muralia | if you choose glance or swift, solum will talk to keystone, impersonate the tenant and store LPs and DUs in the tenants account | 21:38 |
| muralia | so the users code and DU is kept private at all times | 21:39 |
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| devkulkarni | muralia: impersonation will be only required for theusecase when there is a webhook trigger sent to solum? | 21:39 |
| devkulkarni | right? | 21:39 |
| muralia | thats right | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | for regular flow (where users are directly interacting as them) there is no impersonation | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 21:40 |
| muralia | im going to update the wiki with instructions and links to sample LPs and sample apps soon | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: that would be really helpful | 21:40 |
| muralia | cool | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: thanks a lot for the update!! | 21:40 |
| devkulkarni | we will look forward to the updated instructions | 21:41 |
| muralia | sure. if anyone has any questions, ping me on irc | 21:41 |
| akshayc | nice | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | we are still in the Announcement topic today :) | 21:41 |
| akshayc | is all the code for building is stored under contrib right? | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | we could continue with the rest of the announcements, or we could keep them for next week | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: that is correct | 21:42 |
| muralia | yes | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | contrib/lp-cedarish/build-* | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | what do you all prefer? we could go directly to Task review or to open discussion | 21:42 |
| akshayc | ok…. and we currently support | 21:42 |
| akshayc | no just wondering the correct location | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: yes, that is the correct location | 21:43 |
| datsun180b | i vote proceeed to tasks | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: ok, lets do that then | 21:43 |
| akshayc | because i am trying to rework the building scripts | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | akshayc: yes, i believe you are continuing from where ravips left off | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | is that correct? | 21:43 |
| akshayc | ya…. | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | lets circle back on that in the open discussion | 21:44 |
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| devkulkarni | lets quickly go through some of the tasks that we have for today | 21:44 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:44 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Task Review | 21:44 |
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| devkulkarni | (muralia): Remove Image creation API. Move image creation functionality as a resource under rest of the solum API tree | 21:44 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: mind getting us up to speed on this one? | 21:44 |
| muralia | yes | 21:44 |
| muralia | while working on the LP feature, i realized we have two api endpoint in solum | 21:45 |
| muralia | one is the solum-api which is the endpoint we talk to for creating and deploy apps | 21:45 |
| muralia | the other is a builder-api | 21:45 |
| muralia | which deals with image creation. | 21:45 |
| devkulkarni | right | 21:46 |
| muralia | when we started working on this project, we thought we would need a separate api for creating images and a different one for deploying these images | 21:46 |
| muralia | we've changed our approach since then and are using the solum-api for creating and deploying apps. | 21:46 |
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| muralia | the LP creation however happens by talkign to the builder-api | 21:47 |
| muralia | i chose to do that because of the way the LP resource was designed in the main solum-api | 21:48 |
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| muralia | the LP resource was just a metadata store, which doesnt even write to the solum db. it just stores metadata in glance | 21:48 |
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| devkulkarni | okay.. | 21:49 |
| muralia | this doesnt make sense for solum anymore. so I'm propose consolidating our two api's into just one. basically, i'll change the LP resource to support all the LP features i described earlier | 21:49 |
| muralia | there is just no need to two separate apis, 1 dealing with apps and 1 dealing with LPs. | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | so these will be: CRUD on LPs | 21:50 |
| muralia | yes | 21:50 |
| mkam | +1 for a single api | 21:50 |
| devkulkarni | where is the LP related metadata being stored currently? | 21:50 |
| muralia | this change will not affect an end user. | 21:51 |
| muralia | its just moving where the functionality lives. and consolidating 2 endpoints into 1 | 21:51 |
| devkulkarni | seems fine to me | 21:51 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b, gpilz, phiche1, akshayc: any thoughts? | 21:52 |
| muralia | in my LP feature work, im storing the metadata in the solum db now. this will make it easy for me to implement features to discover and search for LPs | 21:52 |
| gpilz | makes sense | 21:52 |
| datsun180b | more simpler is more betterer | 21:52 |
| devkulkarni | muralia: I see | 21:52 |
| devkulkarni | thanks datsun180b, gpilz | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | should we take a agreed on this? | 21:53 |
| gpilz | yes | 21:53 |
| datsun180b | yes | 21:53 |
| akshayc | yes | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | thanks! | 21:53 |
| muralia | cool. thanks. i'll get started on that | 21:53 |
| devkulkarni | #agreed We will consolidate our endpoints under a single API endpoint. Specifically, we will get rid of solum-builder-api endpoint and move language pack creation functionality under solum-api | 21:54 |
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| devkulkarni | we have only few minutes remaining today. | 21:54 |
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| devkulkarni | so I am going to skip the rest of the task reviews, and open up discussion | 21:54 |
| devkulkarni | #topic open discussion | 21:55 |
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| devkulkarni | akshayc: floor is yours | 21:55 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:55 |
| akshayc | i have trying to move from bash to python | 21:55 |
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| akshayc | i was looking for some libraries | 21:55 |
| akshayc | i know there is docker-py | 21:56 |
| akshayc | for docker functions | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | is docker-py in global-requirements? | 21:56 |
| akshayc | do we have any specific version to use | 21:56 |
| devkulkarni | if not, our gates won't pass | 21:56 |
| akshayc | not sure…. it is in the newer version | 21:56 |
| akshayc | i will not shift the current working | 21:56 |
| akshayc | i will work in parallel | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | got it. | 21:57 |
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| akshayc | when the work is stable, we can switch | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | but we should go docker-py route in your parallel stream only if eventually we would be able to use that in upstream solum | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | and that is why I was asking if we know whether docker-py has been included in global-requirements yet? | 21:57 |
| devkulkarni | if we don't know, we should find that out | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | nope | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt | 21:58 |
| akshayc | ya…. its not there…. | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | keyworded bookmarks C: | 21:58 |
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| devkulkarni | datsun180b: but, wasn't there an issue in our vagrant around nova where it was using dockery-py? so it must have been available, no? | 21:59 |
| akshayc | the other option is to write shell commands in python | 21:59 |
| datsun180b | nova-docker | 21:59 |
| devkulkarni | fabric | 21:59 |
| datsun180b | https://github.com/stackforge/nova-docker/blob/master/requirements.txt | 21:59 |
| devkulkarni | sorry, nova-docker | 21:59 |
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| akshayc | yep… nova-docker is using it…. | 21:59 |
| devkulkarni | okay, so if nova-docker is using it, we could use it as well | 22:00 |
| datsun180b | but https://github.com/ed-/nova-docker/tree/solum-pin is not | 22:00 |
| devkulkarni | hmm.. | 22:00 |
| devkulkarni | okay, we are out of time | 22:00 |
| datsun180b | compatibility issues mainly | 22:00 |
| akshayc | yep | 22:00 |
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| devkulkarni | akshayc: lets continue in solum | 22:00 |
| devkulkarni | thanks muralia for the updates today | 22:01 |
| akshayc | ok | 22:01 |
| muralia | sure | 22:01 |
| devkulkarni | we will continue with more updates in the next meeting | 22:01 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 17 22:01:20 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-02-17-21.00.html | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-02-17-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-02-17-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
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