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| dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 2 16:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for jd__, dims, bnemec, flaper87, harlowja, viktors, rpodolyaka, zzzeek, sileht, kgiusti, dansmith | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for redrobot, jungleboyj, zhiyan, therve, amotoki, GheRivero, bknudson, ihrachyshka, jogo, dougwig, sreshetnyak, amrith | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
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| stevemar | o/ | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o? | 16:00 |
| sileht | o/ | 16:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 16:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:01 |
| bknudson | lol | 16:01 |
| bnemec | \o | 16:01 |
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| * jd__ back on business | 16:01 | |
| amrith | ./ | 16:01 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims | o/ - distracted but here :) | 16:01 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | yo | 16:01 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 16:01 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:01 |
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| e0ne | hi! | 16:01 |
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| dhellmann | hi, all | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:02 |
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| dhellmann | apparently we had none :-) | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
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| dhellmann | liaisons, please report in even if you have no issues going now, so we know your status | 16:03 |
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| bknudson | none that I can think of for keystone. | 16:03 |
| amrith | none that I know of from trove | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: I have two subjects to cover. | 16:03 |
| GheRivero | none that I know of in ironic | 16:03 |
| amrith | specifically, had kept an eye out based on recent graduations. nothing to report. | 16:03 |
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| bnemec | The Nova oslo.log thing, but I'm pretty sure you're already aware of that. :-) | 16:04 |
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| ihrachyshka | o/ | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yeah, dims is working on that | 16:04 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 16:04 |
| viktors | are Nova liaisons around? | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: I opened this bug on Friday. It is keeping me from updating the 'scheduler' module. Hope to push up a patch in the next day or so: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+bug/1426437 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1426437 in oslo-incubator "The normalize function in scheduler/base_weight.py can't handle float(inf)" [Undecided,New] | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Not sure who owns the scheduler code but would appreciate any input if there are concerns with what is proposed in the bug. | 16:05 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: according to our MAINTAINERS file the scheduler code is orphaned right now | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: :-( Poor little scheduler. | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: That was the change suggested by winston-d , our scheduler guy. So, I will push up a patch and see what you all think. | 16:07 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: indeed. I'll have to look at your proposed patch more closely than I have time for right now, but please go ahead and submit it so we can discuss it in the review | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Cool. Second item I wanted to cover was setting up a project to use the new oslo-config-generator | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | ok | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | Cinder cores were split as to the best approach, putting the list of files in setup.cfg versus the alternative you proposed of creating a new file that would pull all the config options together. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like all the other projects are just using setup.cfg . | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Wonder if nova is planning to do the same thing. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | It is an issue for Cinder as we have 70+ files with cfg items in them. | 16:09 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: you'd have to ask jogo, unless dims or bnemec have been involved in that change | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: yeah, you probably don't want to have to list each of them separately | 16:10 |
| bknudson | this is why keystone puts all its config options in the same file | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | the benefit of doing that is to be able to generate sample files for different services | 16:10 |
| bknudson | (or maybe it was just laziness) | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | bknudson: Yeah, I noticed that. | 16:10 |
| ihrachyshka | in neutron, we also have lots of configs :) | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | but the downside is 70 arguments to pass to the config generator | 16:10 |
| dims | jungleboyj: i took a stab at it last week, but got sidetracked | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | ihrachyshka: Have you moved to using the new config generator? | 16:11 |
| bknudson | I would make a single function that pulls in all the other options. | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | so say if you wanted to generate a separate sample config for the api server and the conductor, you would want 2 entries | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | dims: Which approach were you taking? | 16:11 |
| ihrachyshka | jungleboyj, nope, I don't know how to keep split files | 16:11 |
| ihrachyshka | we have conf files per plugin, and we have lots of those.. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | ihrachyshka: Right, that is the same for Cinder. | 16:12 |
| ihrachyshka | (though I don't believe it's actually a good thing, but the last time I checked, community said separate files are somehow a better approach) | 16:12 |
| dims | jungleboyj: nova probably add list_opts() in various files and stick to one nova.conf so one sample file | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | So you can either create an etry per file in setup.cfg to send to the generator or you can create one config file that deep copies the options out of the other drivers. | 16:13 |
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| dhellmann | I'm not really sure why we started doing that deepcopy thing. If list_opts is only used by the generator, there's nothing to worry about changing. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | dims: Ok, so not changing setup.cfg with the list of files with options? | 16:13 |
| dims | jungleboyj: did not get that far | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Can you expand that comment? | 16:14 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: the config generator doesn't modify the config options, and list_opts() is only used by the config generator (not at runtime) so we shouldn't need to deepcopy the options lists to avoid changing them | 16:15 |
| bknudson | there's a comment in the code says to do deepcopy. | 16:15 |
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| dhellmann | hrm | 16:15 |
| bnemec | I suspect because list_opts is technically public. | 16:15 |
| dims | y | 16:15 |
| dims | thought so too | 16:16 |
| bnemec | So anyone could be calling it and doing whatever they want with the return value. | 16:16 |
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| dhellmann | ah, well, ok | 16:16 |
| bnemec | I mean, they shouldn't be, but that's never stopped anyone before. :-) | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | seems a bit overprotective to me, but it's not *wrong* | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | jungleboyj: The heart of my question is whether you all feel that is a cleaner solution for those of us with many files? To me it seems to be but it isn't consistent with the existing implementations. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | thingee didn't want me going off and making us inconsistent if we were the only ones doing it. | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: the idea behind registering multiple names is to allow you to then call the config generator with those namespaces independently. So you only need to list multiple names in setup.cfg if you actually want to generate more than one type of sample config (for different services, for example) | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Ahhh, ok. Cinder doesn't need that. | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure what approach has been taken in the other projects, or if they understood that distinction | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: That answer means that creating the single config file to create the list_opts() for everyone is the right answer then. | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: a case where cinder *might* want to do that is if you want to generate a config file for a specific driver. But if the driver options are all in unique sections of the file, you can just include them all in one file anyway | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: ok, cool | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: The drivers all need options from multiple locations. I don't know of anyone who would do that. | 16:19 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: ok | 16:19 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: don't forget to include your oslo library namespaces, too (oslo.messaging, oslo.db, etc.) when you run the generator | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: So, I think I will go with adding cinder/options.py and use that for doing the generation. Also going to write a hacking check to make sure that people update that when they add a file with cfg opts. | 16:20 |
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| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Done. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Got that code working already. :-) | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: that sounds like a good approach | 16:20 |
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| dhellmann | are there any other issues from liaisons that we need to cover before moving on? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Excellent. Thank you for your expertise. ihrachyshka and dims I should have an example for you to work from in the next day or two. | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj: that's why we're here :-) | 16:22 |
| dims | jungleboyj: awesome | 16:22 |
| ihrachyshka | jungleboyj, I'll keep an eye, I'm interested in checking it in L for neutron, keep me in loop | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | #topic Introduce HP Helion mentee working on oslo.cache spec | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | Can do. | 16:22 |
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| dhellmann | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/kilo/oslo-cache-using-dogpile.html | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | pleia2, I'll turn the floor over to you | 16:22 |
| pleia2 | hello, I'm here with shelly___ | 16:22 |
| shelly__ | hi | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | hi, shelly__ | 16:22 |
| shelly__ | I am shelly | 16:22 |
| ihrachyshka | 'mentee' ? | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: the person a mentor works with | 16:22 |
| ihrachyshka | ah right. who's a mentee and who's a mentor then? :) | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | shelly__: Hi! Welcome! | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | pleia2 is shelly__'s mentor | 16:23 |
| pleia2 | we've worked to identify this spec for her to work on, so this is mostly an introduction and we hope to get an action item or two out of this | 16:23 |
| ihrachyshka | thanks | 16:23 |
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| ihrachyshka | welcome and happy to see you onboard :) | 16:23 |
| bknudson | hopefully you know morganfainberg | 16:24 |
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| pleia2 | bknudson: yeah, he's the one who pointed us in the direction of this spec | 16:24 |
| pleia2 | so we'll follow up with him on some of the keystone-specific things | 16:24 |
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| dims | hi shelly__ | 16:24 |
| shelly__ | hi :D | 16:25 |
| bknudson | y, we want to use this in keystone. | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | shelly__, pleia2 : a good first step would be to expand the existing spec a little bit with some ideas for what the library API might need to include (IIRC, it was a little sparse because morganfainberg was going to work that out when he started the library) | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | it doesn't describe specific configuration options, for example | 16:26 |
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| dhellmann | and since it's meant to be the connection between oslo.config and dogpile, that seems like a key thing to work through :-) | 16:26 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:26 | |
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| bknudson | looks like keystonemiddleware can also use it. | 16:27 |
| pleia2 | I figure the best way to go about it is a [keystone] thread on list? | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | another thing to think about is whether it makes sense to create the new library from scratch in a new repo, or try to use the incubator for the first few revisions | 16:27 |
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| dhellmann | pleia2, maybe both [keystone] and [oslo] to make sure both teams are involved | 16:28 |
| pleia2 | sounds good | 16:28 |
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| dhellmann | shelly__, thank you again for volunteering to work on this project | 16:29 |
| pleia2 | shelly___: we can collaborate on this email today and send it off | 16:29 |
| shelly___ | great :D | 16:29 |
| shelly___ | Thanks for all the helps ^ ^ | 16:30 |
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| pleia2 | I think that's enough to get us started, so we'll be in touch | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | pleia2, shelly__: ok, sounds good -- thanks for coming to the meeting | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-kilo | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/kilo-3 | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing work & Review priorities (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:31 | |
| dhellmann | shelly__: this is a recurring meeting topic where we catch up on blueprint work, so if you have things you need us to look at once you get started, this is a good place to raise them | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | We hinted at work dims is doing on oslo.log for nova earlier. If there are any resulting patches in oslo, we'll be looking for reviewers in #openstack-oslo | 16:31 |
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| dhellmann | Is anyone blocked on work we prioritized for this release? | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | or important bug fixes? | 16:32 |
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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159525/ ? | 16:32 |
| ihrachyshka | I suppose it should go quickly before initial oslo.policy release | 16:33 |
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| dhellmann | hmm, that has 2 +2 but no workflow+1 | 16:33 |
| bknudson | probably because no unit test. | 16:33 |
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| ihrachyshka | bknudson, have you checked the patch? it's trivial | 16:34 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: it is, but because it modifies the public API of the library we need some sort of test to verify that we never break that | 16:35 |
| bknudson | ihrachyshka: yes. "Trivial" changes are easy to lose. | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: a simple test that imports and uses the symbols under their new names would be sufficient | 16:35 |
| ihrachyshka | well ok, if you think it's worth it, I'll do it later | 16:35 |
| bknudson | ihrachyshka: This is important to consumers, so let's make sure it's tested. | 16:36 |
| ihrachyshka | bknudson, ack | 16:36 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I think I left a comment just as you were leaving yours :-) | 16:36 |
| bknudson | would be nice if there was a way to flag a test as "important to consumers" | 16:36 |
| bknudson | "part of public API" | 16:37 |
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| dhellmann | bknudson: good idea | 16:37 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar, how are things looking with oslo.policy? | 16:38 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann, i am fine with it after ihrachyshka's patch lands | 16:38 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar: ok, cool | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: see https://review.openstack.org/160407 as well | 16:39 |
| stevemar | dhellmann, there were some folks on the ML asking about it http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2015-03/msg00029.html | 16:39 |
| ihrachyshka | I'll update the patch tomorrow | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | since that's a config change, it would be good to include that in the first public release | 16:39 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann, ++ | 16:40 |
| stevemar | i'm not sure any project even leverages that option | 16:40 |
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| * dhellmann hopes not | 16:40 | |
| dhellmann | we should check | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: it looks like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/adopt-debtcollector is blocked on a few infra-related changes? | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | yuppers one i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157566/ and then another is +2ed but waiting | 16:41 |
| stevemar | dhellmann, looping back to the original question - i think the keystone team was happy with the current patch to replace the incubated code with oslo.policy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148624/ | 16:41 |
| stevemar | bknudson, if you could take another look, that would be good ^ | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: +2 on that one, we should see if we can get the other reviews wrapped up this week | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | agreed | 16:42 |
| stevemar | bknudson, i cleaned up the tests in another patch, there was a lot of cruft | 16:42 |
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| bknudson | stevemar: that's an understatement. | 16:42 |
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| bnemec | \o/ Death to policy_dirs! | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: good, so other than the 2 symbols neutron was using we didn't have to change the API? | 16:43 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith: it looks like there are some infra tasks left on the work items list for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/adopt-oslo-versionedobjects as well, unless those are already done? | 16:44 |
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| dansmith | dhellmann: nope, I haven't done those yet, sorry | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | dansmith: ok, np, just making sure we're tracking properly | 16:44 |
| dansmith | I haven't forgotten about them | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | zzzeek requested reviews for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+spec/make-enginefacade-a-facade, please include that in your rotation | 16:45 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, we actually closed some API that was public before | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | and we have a few bugs in progress on https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-kilo as well | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: excellent | 16:45 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, well, not really. neutron can't move to oslo.policy due to that just now :D | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | oh, sorry, I misunderstood -- yes, your patch fixes that | 16:45 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, nope, there are more | 16:46 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, we relied on AndCheck and RuleCheck and other symbols | 16:46 |
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| ihrachyshka | well, we still do | 16:46 |
| ihrachyshka | but those won't be public anymore | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | perhaps we should have a more comprehensive patch, then? | 16:46 |
| ihrachyshka | so to migrate, we will need to implement missing features in oslo.policy in L cycle first | 16:46 |
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| dhellmann | should the _checks module be fully public? | 16:46 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, afaik no, stevemar was against it | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: do you have a full list of the symbols you're using in neutron? | 16:47 |
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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, I actually agree that we should move our neutron enhancement to the lib, it just will take some time | 16:47 |
| stevemar | ihrachyshka, i am? :) | 16:47 |
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| ihrachyshka | stevemar, well, maybe not you but someone other from oslo.policy team? | 16:47 |
| bknudson | what's the enhancement? | 16:47 |
| ihrachyshka | bknudson, sub-attribute checks | 16:47 |
| ihrachyshka | let me give you links | 16:47 |
| stevemar | if it makes sense to expose it publicly then i'm okay with it | 16:47 |
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| ihrachyshka | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/neutron/policy.py#n150 | 16:48 |
| ihrachyshka | and below | 16:48 |
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| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, afaik it's AndCheck and RuleCheck only | 16:48 |
| bknudson | interesting. | 16:48 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ok | 16:48 |
| ihrachyshka | bknudson, it looks like http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/etc/policy.json#n66 | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: encouraging projects to contribute features like these to the libraries is one reason we try to keep the public API so small :-) | 16:49 |
| ihrachyshka | Dr. Evil at its best | 16:50 |
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| bknudson | policy.Check if that's not public. | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: I prefer to think of it as Make Sharing Easier. | 16:50 |
| bknudson | policy.RoleCheck | 16:50 |
| ihrachyshka | bknudson, Check should be public, that one is in my 2 line patch | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | we're getting close to the end of our time slot, and I'd like to go over the releases we have planned for this week | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | #topic Releases for this week | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/185191/ | 16:51 |
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| dhellmann | #info cliff has a couple of features needed by the OSC project | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.config has a few bug fixes | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.log has a bug-fix for nova | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | #info oslo.policy has added a missing method as a bug fix | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | #info oslosphinx's blueprint checker code has been sped up for some cases | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | we may also have oslo.policy ready for a public release this week | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | though no promises there :-) | 16:52 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann, heres to hoping that we do :) | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: ++ | 16:53 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home there were several items in taskflow but I didn't have a chance to catch up with you before the meeting, do you have a release planned for this week? | 16:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | i could | 16:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | but lets see | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | ok, sounds good | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:55 |
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| dhellmann | we have a few more minutes left, in case there is anything else we need to discuss? | 16:55 |
| ihrachyshka | I have one! timeutils is not leap sec aware | 16:55 |
| ihrachyshka | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.utils/+bug/1427212 | 16:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1427212 in oslo.utils "timeutils is not leap second safe" [Undecided,New] | 16:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | and we have one in Juno | 16:55 |
| ihrachyshka | June& | 16:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | though I suspect it means reimplementing the API not to rely on datetime :) | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | oh, fun | 16:56 |
| ihrachyshka | yeah, remember the last time we had a leap one? java crashing, ... | 16:56 |
| ihrachyshka | we may now get into the party | 16:57 |
| ihrachyshka | :) | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | perhaps we should add a check for that particular value error as a special case to prevent it from propagating | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | I had some questions about oslo.log migration today, so it would be nice to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147312/ so we can refer folks to the documentation | 16:58 |
| ihrachyshka | hm, interesting idea. but then what do you return? | 16:58 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: if the caller is expecting a datetime back, I'm not sure what we would do | 16:59 |
| ihrachyshka | right, a new API would be needed | 16:59 |
| dhellmann | wait until we can create a valid one, so the time stamp we give back is valid? | 16:59 |
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| ihrachyshka | we can close our eyes and live in happy ponny world with no leap secs and hope for the best :) | 16:59 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, unmarshell gets a value to convert, it can't adopt it (I guess) | 17:00 |
| dhellmann | a new api seems like a hard sell to the users of the module -- is there a fix planned for python's stdlib? | 17:00 |
| * jungleboyj is picturing the perfect world from the Lego Movie. :-) | 17:00 | |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, it's clearly stated in py docs datetime is not leap aware | 17:00 |
| ihrachyshka | jungleboyj, EVERYTHING IS AWESOME, right | 17:00 |
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| dhellmann | our time is up | 17:00 |
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| dhellmann | thanks for another good meeting, team | 17:00 |
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| jungleboyj | Ahhhh ... Now it is stuck in my head! | 17:00 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 2 17:00:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-02-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Thank you! | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-02-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-02-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
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| reed | is this channel open now for real? | 17:07 |
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| reed | there seems to be no meeting schedule | 17:08 |
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| mrmartin | o/ | 17:08 |
| reed | o/ | 17:08 |
| dizquierdo | hi | 17:08 |
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| mrmartin | startmeeting for which project? | 17:08 |
| reed | I'd say community | 17:09 |
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| mrmartin | #startmeeting community | 17:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 2 17:09:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrmartin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: community)" | 17:09 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'community' | 17:09 |
| mrmartin | I hope it will create the logs. | 17:10 |
| reed | thanks mrmartin | 17:10 |
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| mrmartin | do we have an agenda? | 17:10 |
| reed | yes, we need to start with a status report to understand where we're at with migration activity board to infra | 17:10 |
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| reed | the objective of the meeting is to set a roadmap (draft a spec) | 17:11 |
| mrmartin | #topic status report of activity.o.o migration | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status report of activity.o.o migration (Meeting topic: community)" | 17:11 | |
| dizquierdo | oh welcome dpose, reed, mrmartin let me introduce dpose to you | 17:11 |
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| dizquierdo | he's puppetizing cvsanaly :) | 17:11 |
| mrmartin | hi dpose | 17:11 |
| mrmartin | sound so strange | 17:11 |
| dpose | hi mrmartin | 17:11 |
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| reed | do we have a story for this task? | 17:12 |
| mrmartin | how is activity.o.o had been deployed actually? | 17:12 |
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| dizquierdo | ok, let's start from the beginning | 17:12 |
| dizquierdo | we do not have a story (if you mean in storyboard) | 17:12 |
| dizquierdo | so we can open one there I guess | 17:12 |
| dizquierdo | then, the current deployment | 17:13 |
| mrmartin | I think if you don't have those assets, we need to setup everything, infra projects, storyboard, etc. | 17:13 |
| dizquierdo | ok | 17:13 |
| dizquierdo | well, the project is now under openstack-infra/activity-board | 17:13 |
| dizquierdo | and this is under gerrit and git | 17:13 |
| dizquierdo | but we're not using storyboard | 17:13 |
| reed | # link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/709 | 17:14 |
| dizquierdo | this could be a good opportunity to start using this | 17:14 |
| dizquierdo | great, thanks :) | 17:14 |
| reed | #info we have the project Activity Board on infra | 17:14 |
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| dizquierdo | (oh sorry for not using meetbot tags, I still have to learn u_u) | 17:14 |
| reed | no we don't | 17:14 |
| reed | yes we do... I'm so confused, been pinged from too many places already and it's only 9am here :) | 17:15 |
| mrmartin | #info we have the project Activity Board on Storyboard instead | 17:15 |
| reed | so I think we should use this meeting to lay down a roadmap, draft a spec | 17:16 |
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| dizquierdo | that sounds good | 17:16 |
| mrmartin | ok, so we have a storyboard account, a git repo and some gerrit integration | 17:16 |
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| dizquierdo | I can detail if you want how we currently deploy activity board | 17:16 |
| mrmartin | please. | 17:16 |
| dizquierdo | and then we may prepare that plan | 17:16 |
| dizquierdo | ok, briefly | 17:16 |
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| dizquierdo | there are 3 main legs: retrieval process, metrics and analytics side, and visualization | 17:17 |
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| dizquierdo | the first step is python-based and goes through all of the data sources (irc, git, mailing lists, storyboard, etc) and retrieve all of the info | 17:17 |
| dizquierdo | that stores all of the information in MySQL databases | 17:17 |
| mrmartin | is it some scheduled process? | 17:17 |
| dizquierdo | each 24 hours this is run | 17:17 |
| dizquierdo | using cron | 17:17 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 17:18 |
| dizquierdo | (indeed the whole process) | 17:18 |
| dizquierdo | the second part basically goes through all of the databases and start producing JSON files | 17:18 |
| dizquierdo | then, those JSON files are visualized by the platform, and this is what you see in activvity.o.o | 17:18 |
| dizquierdo | this is a basic a simple approach to the whole platform | 17:18 |
| dizquierdo | as we were discussing during FOSDEM, a good starting point would be to start migrating the first part: the retrieval tools | 17:19 |
| dizquierdo | so far, there's nothing created under the openstack infrastructure, but the visualization | 17:19 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, shall I go a bit deeper into the first part: the retrieval tools? | 17:20 |
| mrmartin | yes | 17:20 |
| dizquierdo | ok | 17:20 |
| mrmartin | https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/master/manifests/site.pp | 17:20 |
| reed | #info draft spec for this process https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/activity-infratization-spec | 17:20 |
| mrmartin | I'm checking this meanwhile, but I cannot found any servers related to activity.o.o | 17:20 |
| dizquierdo | this is based on Metrics Grimoire https://github.com/MetricsGrimoire | 17:20 |
| reed | geez, it took me 5 mins to find the template spec | 17:20 |
| dizquierdo | and there's a tool for each data source | 17:21 |
| dizquierdo | for instance, cvsanaly is focused on git activity | 17:21 |
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| reed | mrmartin, the current server was created manually | 17:21 |
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| mrmartin | ok. | 17:21 |
| dizquierdo | Mailing List Stats is focused on mailing lists | 17:21 |
| reed | it's not a puppet server | 17:21 |
| dizquierdo | Bicho is focused on Gerrit and Launchpad | 17:21 |
| dizquierdo | (and lately storyboard) | 17:21 |
| dizquierdo | etc | 17:21 |
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| dizquierdo | and those tools are installed by cloning the repo plus some standard libraries | 17:22 |
| mrmartin | do you have some packaging for python apps, like pip or deb ? | 17:22 |
| dizquierdo | then, there's a list of options for each tool, like the URL of the service | 17:22 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, I'm afraid we do not have that | 17:22 |
| dizquierdo | but we may start producing those if that's easier for you | 17:22 |
| mrmartin | so for example, you are using an app for Mailing list stats, do you deploy multiple apps with different configurations | 17:23 |
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| dizquierdo | in the initial puppet recipe that was prepared by dpose, we cloned the repo and installed from sources (just for information) | 17:23 |
| mrmartin | or you have single app, and use a monolitic config? | 17:23 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, afair this is all monolitic config | 17:24 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 17:24 |
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| mrmartin | do you have a git repo for the puppet dpose is working on? | 17:25 |
| dizquierdo | and well, as a first approach, it may be interesting to move the retrieval process under openstack | 17:25 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, not yet, we can publish that for sure | 17:25 |
| dizquierdo | some place under infra? | 17:25 |
| dizquierdo | or maybe personal github account | 17:25 |
| mrmartin | ok, because it is a question, whether you like to maintain the puppet module, or move it under infra? | 17:26 |
| mrmartin | the infra's advantage that we can use the same toolset, as we are using for all other projects, including code review etc. | 17:26 |
| dizquierdo | probably to move that under infra | 17:26 |
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| dizquierdo | I think that's the idea, reed ? | 17:26 |
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| dizquierdo | so anyone is more than welcome to participate :) | 17:27 |
| mrmartin | and then here, we need to do our fight with infra with let in this puppet | 17:27 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, my main concern is that sometimes we need to reorganize part of the MySQL databases | 17:27 |
| dizquierdo | based on features in the retrieval tools | 17:27 |
| mrmartin | what it means? | 17:27 |
| mrmartin | schema changes? | 17:27 |
| dizquierdo | some example: we need either to add a new column to the database for some reason | 17:28 |
| dizquierdo | yes, things like that | 17:28 |
| mrmartin | can we automatize that? | 17:28 |
| dizquierdo | and I'm not sure if that's an issue | 17:28 |
| dizquierdo | I'd say so | 17:28 |
| reed | I think we can maintain the puppet module, it scales better than github pull requests | 17:28 |
| mrmartin | will this come as a part of the update? | 17:28 |
| reed | the problem is the CLA | 17:28 |
| reed | if you don't want to use the CLA then we can put it on stackforge | 17:29 |
| dizquierdo | reed, what do you foresee as an issue wrt the CLA? | 17:29 |
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| reed | if you don't want to use stackforge, put it on github in your grimoire set | 17:29 |
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| mrmartin | what is the license of those tools? | 17:29 |
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| dizquierdo | GPLv3 | 17:29 |
| reed | dizquierdo, it's annoying as hell | 17:29 |
| mrmartin | oh | 17:29 |
| dizquierdo | ah ok reed | 17:29 |
| reed | mrmartin, that's not an issue | 17:29 |
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| reed | probably github on your repos is the easiest option, since you already use it | 17:30 |
| mrmartin | as I know the puppet-modules under infra will be automagically published as puppet modules on forge in the near future | 17:30 |
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| mrmartin | that's the plan | 17:30 |
| dizquierdo | sure, from our side that's not an issue | 17:30 |
| mrmartin | but if you like to maintain your own puppet repo / handle module, it can work too | 17:31 |
| mrmartin | the openstack way have the advantage that we don't need to reinvent the wheel regarding some processes and toolsets | 17:31 |
| dizquierdo | so reed your opinion is that we should maintain the puppet repo under our github account | 17:31 |
| dizquierdo | I see mrmartin | 17:31 |
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| mrmartin | but it is a decision, that must be made | 17:32 |
| reed | mrmartin, I leave that decision up to you, I don't have a strong opinion | 17:32 |
| reed | dizquierdo, are you confortable with the CLA? | 17:32 |
| reed | you've already signed it, right? | 17:32 |
| dizquierdo | for sure, as first step, we still need to play a bit, so we may have first versions under github, and later migrate to infra | 17:32 |
| mrmartin | we can start with a separate github repo, and move-in to openstack-infra if it is mature enough | 17:32 |
| dizquierdo | reed, yes I signed that | 17:32 |
| dizquierdo | yes, that sounds like a plan mrmartin | 17:32 |
| reed | the other thing is that creating a new repo on infra will require weeks, while a new github repo is immediate | 17:32 |
| reed | yeah, let's do that | 17:33 |
| dizquierdo | yep | 17:33 |
| reed | #info we can start with a separate github repo, and move-in to openstack-infra if it is mature enough | 17:33 |
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| mrmartin | reed: event if it not takes for weeks, patch acceptance have some delivery time depending on the load of infra | 17:33 |
| mrmartin | event / even | 17:33 |
| reed | #the github repos will contain the puppet modules to deploy and configure all grimoire toolsets (cvsanaly, mailing list stats, bicho, etc) | 17:34 |
| dizquierdo | then, as a first action, we'll create that github repo | 17:34 |
| dizquierdo | and send to you an email | 17:34 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, we may need some help from your side | 17:34 |
| dizquierdo | I hope we wont' be too annoying | 17:35 |
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| mrmartin | reed, is the part of the OpenStack Foundation project? | 17:35 |
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| mrmartin | so this migration project | 17:36 |
| mrmartin | dizquierdo, how much puppet experience your team have? | 17:36 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, low I'm afraid | 17:37 |
| dizquierdo | beginners | 17:37 |
| mrmartin | ok, so I'm used the puppetize using the following process: | 17:37 |
| mrmartin | 1, write some spec about architecture, components, config required | 17:37 |
| mrmartin | 2, do some detailed deployment guide, that explains everything step by step, so if I give it to a linux sysadmin he can do that | 17:38 |
| mrmartin | 3, if all above works, puppetize the result | 17:38 |
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| reed | mrmartin, what's your question again? not sure I understand it | 17:38 |
| dizquierdo | ok | 17:38 |
| dizquierdo | we can start in that way | 17:38 |
| mrmartin | so if point 2 works well, we can identify some pain points the can cause problems during automatization | 17:39 |
| mrmartin | for example this schema change | 17:39 |
| mrmartin | or the deployment / packaging questions | 17:39 |
| dizquierdo | ok, mrmartin we'll also add a list of potential issues we typically face when updating the toolset | 17:39 |
| mrmartin | or how-to upgrade things | 17:39 |
| dizquierdo | yes, so we can deal with those in an automated way | 17:40 |
| mrmartin | update used to be a major problem usually | 17:40 |
| dizquierdo | they're quite stable, but well... | 17:40 |
| dizquierdo | there are updates | 17:40 |
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| mrmartin | ok, so first of all I suggest to write the initial specs | 17:41 |
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| mrmartin | setup the required github repos and accesses | 17:41 |
| mrmartin | and when we have a spec, we can estimate some delivery time | 17:41 |
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| dizquierdo | mrmartin, ok | 17:42 |
| mrmartin | and do regular meetings about the progress | 17:42 |
| mrmartin | and start to use storyboard | 17:42 |
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| dizquierdo | sure | 17:42 |
| mrmartin | reed, do you know when will storyboard email notifications start to work? | 17:43 |
| reed | nope | 17:43 |
| mrmartin | #action write activity board migration spec | 17:43 |
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| reed | # info draft available on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/activity-infratization-spec | 17:44 |
| reed | #info draft available on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/activity-infratization-spec | 17:44 |
| mrmartin | reed, do we need to create this spec under infra specs? | 17:44 |
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| reed | I think so, rigth? | 17:44 |
| mrmartin | ok, I agree | 17:44 |
| reed | it's a similar process to askbot infratization | 17:45 |
| mrmartin | than the same story here, let's use the etherpad for collaborative work, to create a basic spec | 17:45 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, http://paste.openstack.org/show/185288/ | 17:45 |
| mrmartin | and when it is in a good shape, push it through infra as an official spec | 17:45 |
| reed | the thing is that we need to highlight in the spec that it's a long road and that we start small | 17:45 |
| dizquierdo | these are our first steps with Puppet | 17:45 |
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| dizquierdo | (as an example) | 17:45 |
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| mrmartin | I see, they should kill you asap due missing permission in file resources ;) | 17:46 |
| mrmartin | but looks promising | 17:46 |
| reed | no requirements.txt? | 17:46 |
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| mrmartin | ok, but first, let's focus on the spec | 17:47 |
| reed | dizquierdo, is repositoryHandler in pip? | 17:47 |
| dizquierdo | mmm we files that were created were init.pp, nodes.pp and site.pp | 17:47 |
| dizquierdo | reed, nop | 17:47 |
| reed | I agree, let's focus on the spec | 17:47 |
| dizquierdo | ok | 17:47 |
| mrmartin | I suggest to create some minimal architecture diagram, that shows the basics | 17:47 |
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| mrmartin | and explain all of the modules required, and highlight if some special configuration neeeded. | 17:48 |
| reed | mrmartin, good idea... | 17:48 |
| dizquierdo | ok | 17:48 |
| reed | dizquierdo, do you have already a diagram for the grimoire tools? | 17:48 |
| mrmartin | #info create basic architecture diagram | 17:48 |
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| dizquierdo | reed, emm if you mean in terms of a picture, I think we have it around | 17:48 |
| dizquierdo | if you mean in terms of specifications in a text file, I'm afraid not | 17:49 |
| reed | yes, that's what I mean, I'm sure you have a picture somewhere | 17:49 |
| dizquierdo | I'll look for that | 17:49 |
| mrmartin | a simple text diagram is enough | 17:49 |
| reed | #action dizquierdo to look for a diagram (picture) of grimoire architecture to illustrate all the pieces | 17:49 |
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| mrmartin | I'll try to find an example I made for one project | 17:50 |
| mrmartin | this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140043/11/doc/source/askbot.rst | 17:51 |
| dizquierdo | oh that's perfect, we can modify that according to the grimoire toolset | 17:51 |
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| mrmartin | ok, and I suggest to do regular meetings | 17:51 |
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| mrmartin | are you guys all located in EU? | 17:52 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, sure | 17:52 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, we are | 17:52 |
| dizquierdo | not reed | 17:52 |
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| reed | I'm ok with taking this slot for community infra meeting | 17:52 |
| mrmartin | yes, I feel his problem in SFO ;) | 17:52 |
| mrmartin | this time is ok for me too. | 17:52 |
| reed | i have no problem, I can also do one hour earlier | 17:52 |
| mrmartin | this 18.00 o'clock was better for me | 17:53 |
| dizquierdo | this time is ok, and even later around 23 pm CET is ok for me | 17:53 |
| reed | shall we set the meeting in the #openstack-meeting calendar? | 17:53 |
| reed | and take this channel? | 17:53 |
| dizquierdo | ok | 17:53 |
| mrmartin | yes, we can add this on wikipage | 17:53 |
| reed | mrmartin, we end up syncing on other issues as well on MOndays anyway :) | 17:53 |
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| reed | #action reed to edit Meetings page and take #openstack-meeting-alt at 1700 UTC for #community meeting | 17:54 |
| mrmartin | so this channel is available until 19.00GMT (20.00CET) | 17:54 |
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| mrmartin | 17.00 UTC is perfect | 17:54 |
| mrmartin | ok, dizquierdo You can reach me during working hours also | 17:54 |
| dizquierdo | it is | 17:54 |
| mrmartin | and we can share the results with reed on weekly meetings | 17:55 |
| dizquierdo | mrmartin, ok, I'm also around during working hours | 17:55 |
| dizquierdo | thanks | 17:55 |
| dizquierdo | thanks in advance for your time mrmartin | 17:55 |
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| mrmartin | ok, I guess the initial tasks are clear | 17:55 |
| dizquierdo | yes | 17:56 |
| reed | cool | 17:56 |
| reed | thanks folks, I think we have a path forward. Let's meet again next week | 17:56 |
| dizquierdo | thanks mrmartin and reed | 17:56 |
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| mrmartin | ok, so the next meeting will be on March 09, 17.00GMT | 17:56 |
| reed | we'll try to keep it shorter and keep on working offline, on community list | 17:57 |
| reed | I'll be at the Operators Summit, I may be 'distracted' :) | 17:57 |
| reed | but let's do it | 17:57 |
| dizquierdo | :) | 17:57 |
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| mrmartin | yeah, we are travelling sometimes | 17:57 |
| mrmartin | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 2 17:57:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/community/2015/community.2015-03-02-17.09.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/community/2015/community.2015-03-02-17.09.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/community/2015/community.2015-03-02-17.09.log.html | 17:58 |
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| mrmartin | awesome, it made the logs | 17:58 |
| dizquierdo | yep | 17:58 |
| reed | eheheh :) | 17:58 |
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| mrmartin | ok, have a nice day / night there | 17:58 |
| reed | and I edited the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#OpenStack_Community_Office_Hours | 17:59 |
| dizquierdo | have a nice day! | 17:59 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello L2-Gateway folks | 18:00 |
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| Sukhdev | maruti: are you here? | 18:01 |
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| Sukhdev | armax - are you here? | 18:01 |
| maruti | Hi Sukhdev, I am good. How are you? | 18:01 |
| maruti | armax may not be able to join as he is travelling | 18:01 |
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| Sukhdev | maruti: Oh I see | 18:02 |
| Sukhdev | do we have rest of team here? | 18:02 |
| Sukhdev | lets get started and hopefully others will join in | 18:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 2 18:03:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw' | 18:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 18:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway | 18:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 18:03 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not have any specific announcement - except that feature freeze for Kilo is this week | 18:04 |
| Sukhdev | this does not impact us | 18:04 |
| maruti | agreed | 18:05 |
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| Sukhdev | anybody has any announcement - before we dive into status | 18:05 |
| Sukhdev | We have tons of merged patches - see here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:stackforge/networking-l2gw,n,z | 18:06 |
| Sukhdev | Only handful are left which are also very close to completion - see here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/networking-l2gw,n,z | 18:06 |
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| maruti | Armando reviewed some patches pretty fast and gave comments on which people are working currently. l2gw client is in good shape. REST APIs are in good shape. devstack scripts are committed. Pending work items: batch scripts and test automation - alok and ashish packaging - koteswara and vikas documentation - maruti and selva | 18:07 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Project Status | 18:07 |
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| Sukhdev | ah ha you beat me to it - maruti, I was going to ask you to provide status :-) | 18:07 |
| maruti | Armando reviewed some patches pretty fast and gave comments on which people are working currently. l2gw client is in good shape. REST APIs are in good shape. devstack scripts are committed. | 18:07 |
| maruti | Pending work items: batch scripts and test automation - alok and ashish | 18:08 |
| maruti | packaging - koteswara and vikas | 18:08 |
| maruti | documentation - maruti and selva | 18:08 |
| Sukhdev | Hats off to the team this is tremendous progress | 18:09 |
| maruti | agreed. | 18:09 |
| Sukhdev | maruti - I wanted to dive into some of the details so that others can start to test this feature | 18:09 |
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| maruti | I am going to submit a patch which will bridge l2gw plugin and the ML2 plugin | 18:10 |
| maruti | sure Sukhdev | 18:10 |
| Sukhdev | you mean when a network is added to L2-GW, generating create_port requests to ML2? | 18:10 |
| maruti | yes | 18:11 |
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| Sukhdev | This will be similar to adding network interface to router - similar port_create request is generated | 18:12 |
| maruti | Reference: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153774/ | 18:13 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks for the link | 18:13 |
| maruti | When an event occurs in ML2, l2gw service plugin should get notified so that the service plugin can write into OVSDB tables. | 18:14 |
| Sukhdev | and, vice-a-versa, right? | 18:14 |
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| maruti | vice-versa not required | 18:14 |
| Sukhdev | can you elaborate why not? | 18:15 |
| maruti | if there are any changes in OVSDB tables, l2gw service plugin writes into OVSDB tales and also sends RPCs to the L2 agents | 18:15 |
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| maruti | if there are any changes in OVSDB tables, l2gw service plugin writes into neutron tables and also sends RPCs to the L2 agents | 18:15 |
| maruti | so that L2 agents can create tunnels to the gateways | 18:16 |
| Sukhdev | then you are saying, it will bypass the ML2 plugin | 18:16 |
| maruti | yes | 18:17 |
| maruti | that patch set is under review. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158655/ | 18:18 |
| Sukhdev | makes sense - thanks for clarification | 18:18 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody on the channel have any question on this before we move to next topic? | 18:19 |
| Sukhdev | maruti: you mentioned devstack scripts are done | 18:20 |
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| Sukhdev | can one enable L2-GW service by using devstack? | 18:20 |
| maruti | yes | 18:20 |
| Sukhdev | do you have link handy to the patch? | 18:20 |
| maruti | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158395/ | 18:21 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158395/ | 18:21 |
| selvakumar | there is readme.rst under repo | 18:21 |
| selvakumar | https://github.com/stackforge/networking-l2gw/blob/master/devstack/README.rst | 18:21 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: Thanks | 18:22 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Verification of the existing code | 18:22 |
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| Sukhdev | I had an off-line chat with Armado and asked when can folks pull the code on their platforms and start to test | 18:23 |
| Sukhdev | He indicated we are very close - I see the patches are almost ready | 18:24 |
| Sukhdev | I have asked couple of people in Arista to look into this code and test on Arista HW | 18:24 |
| Sukhdev | We are in a wait state for a green signal to go ahead - as soon as the code is ready to go | 18:25 |
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| Sukhdev | Having said that, I want to ask you guys a question | 18:25 |
| maruti | Once these patches are merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158655/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156494/ and the ML2 plugin patching with L2gw service plugin, then it should work. | 18:25 |
| Sukhdev | yup - understood | 18:25 |
| Sukhdev | the question I want to ask you is as follows: | 18:26 |
| Sukhdev | For a new person, who wants to play with L2 Gateway service (and has not been involved in these meetings) - | 18:26 |
| Sukhdev | Shall we write up something for a quick ramp up steps? | 18:27 |
| Sukhdev | For example, selvakumar you mentioned about the README for the devstack | 18:27 |
| maruti | That is the plan. However, we have some reviews in progress on which we are working daily and want to get them merged so that end-to-end will work. | 18:28 |
| maruti | The next would be the documentation. | 18:29 |
| Sukhdev | understood - that is what I meant by "green light" | 18:29 |
| Sukhdev | we have a project wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/L2-GW | 18:29 |
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| maruti | Yes | 18:29 |
| Sukhdev | we can add a section to it for quick ramp up | 18:29 |
| maruti | agreed | 18:29 |
| Sukhdev | Cool - let me know if I can help in this regards | 18:30 |
| maruti | sure Sukhdev | 18:30 |
| Sukhdev | As soon as the code is ready, we would want more and more folks to start testing on various platforms | 18:30 |
| maruti | That will be great | 18:30 |
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| Sukhdev | This will authenticate the implementation and help improve the quality | 18:31 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else you want to add to give the rest of team update?> | 18:32 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 18:33 | |
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| maruti | After the pending reviews are merged, the third party CI on which alok and ashish are working on will also start functioning. | 18:33 |
| selvakumar | Sukhdev - you can take an action item for document on me and Maruti. | 18:33 |
| Sukhdev | #action: selvakumar and maruti to document the users guide to deploy the L2-Gateway service | 18:34 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: Thanks | 18:35 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 18:35 |
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| Sukhdev | I think we have a excellent status update of the project - want to see if there is anything in general anybody wants to bring up | 18:36 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 18:36 | |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar, maruti: I did not check the votes on our presentation | 18:37 |
| Sukhdev | please forward the link to others to vote on it | 18:37 |
| Sukhdev | Folks we are done. | 18:38 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks for joining. | 18:38 |
| selvakumar | Sukhdev , we have already forwarded to our entire HP Networking section for requesting vote | 18:38 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: cool - likewise, I did the same | 18:38 |
| selvakumar | thanks Sukhdev | 18:39 |
| Sukhdev | We will meet in two weeks - hopefully, we will have documentation | 18:39 |
| selvakumar | yes sure | 18:39 |
| maruti | I am not sure where can we check the votes | 18:39 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar, maruti : as soon as you get to the documentaion, please ping me - we do not have to wait, if we can move on it sooner | 18:39 |
| maruti | sure Sukhdev | 18:40 |
| Sukhdev | Folks, will see you here in two weeks. | 18:40 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 18:41 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 18:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 2 18:41:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-03-02-18.03.html | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-03-02-18.03.txt | 18:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-03-02-18.03.log.html | 18:41 |
| maruti | bye | 18:41 |
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| davidlenwell | hi | 19:05 |
| davidlenwell | sorry I'm late | 19:05 |
| davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 19:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 2 19:05:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:05 |
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| davidlenwell | I was catching up on code reviews and lost track of time | 19:06 |
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| davidlenwell | I am a little dissorginized because I was camping all weekend for my birthday.. and I am still recovering | 19:07 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 19:08 |
| davidlenwell | I'd like to start out by talking about this review.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156569/ | 19:09 |
| slypushenko__ | We disscussed it with Vlad | 19:10 |
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| davidlenwell | it has the plus twos it needs to merge .. I'm of the opinion that we should be doing all tests and produciton design for mysql | 19:10 |
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| slypushenko__ | We decided leave db_setup_wrapper as a single script | 19:11 |
| davidlenwell | okay | 19:11 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: I gave a +2 because I think it is good for Local Test. But I think we should not have that as "gate" | 19:11 |
| davidlenwell | I can get on board with that | 19:12 |
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| davidlenwell | this is why I didn't just merge .. I wanted to talk it though | 19:12 |
| slypushenko__ | catherineD Why? | 19:12 |
| catherineD | I think MySQL is one implementation .. there may be other backend db implemtation for future | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | iike what catherineD? | 19:12 |
| catherineD | DB2? | 19:13 |
| davidlenwell | ibm db2 ? ;) | 19:13 |
| Rockyg | postgres | 19:13 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: +1 | 19:13 |
| Rockyg | ;-) | 19:13 |
| davidlenwell | see I don't think we need to come out of the gate supporting all those databases | 19:13 |
| catherineD | All I am saying is keep the option open .. | 19:13 |
| vladiskuz_ | Sorry, but this patch have a bug with migration. I find it just now | 19:14 |
| slypushenko__ | We should be sure, that upload works fine. | 19:14 |
| davidlenwell | So we need to manually test.. | 19:15 |
| davidlenwell | vladiskuz_: go ahead and fix what you just found | 19:15 |
| slypushenko__ | It is a main idea to have functional test in gate | 19:15 |
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| zehicle | o/ sorry I was late | 19:15 |
| slypushenko__ | manual test is not an option | 19:15 |
| vladiskuz_ | we can have different gates to different database in the future | 19:15 |
| davidlenwell | vladiskuz_: ++ | 19:16 |
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| davidlenwell | I do think we should gate on mysql .. ,because thats what we use in production | 19:16 |
| davidlenwell | we need to know if something breaks | 19:16 |
| slypushenko__ | +1 | 19:16 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. lets move on .. I think thats enough time on this topic .. vlad go ahead and fix the bug you saw .. I want this in the gate | 19:17 |
| davidlenwell | lets get an update on uuid progress.. | 19:17 |
| davidlenwell | #topic uuid | 19:17 |
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| davidlenwell | hogepodge: can you give us an update please | 19:18 |
| hogepodge | The initial work and tagging has been merged. | 19:19 |
| hogepodge | Clean up tasks to be done involve documentation | 19:19 |
| catherineD | I look at the new test list with uuid ... and seems like the dynamically created test cases are not covered .. | 19:19 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: yes, that's also work that needs to be done | 19:20 |
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| davidlenwell | so what are the work items that need to be completed before refstack can move from the release its using into trunk tempest? | 19:20 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: do dynamically created tests fall under api? | 19:24 |
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| catherineD | no | 19:24 |
| hogepodge | davidlenwell: I don't think there are any more uuid work items then | 19:24 |
| catherineD | but they are mostly negative test ... | 19:24 |
| mtreinish | catherineD: they're only for 2 classes of tests, negative api tests and 1 scenario tests | 19:24 |
| davidlenwell | none of those tests are listed in the defcore capabilites list are they ? | 19:25 |
| catherineD | mtreinish: yes | 19:25 |
| mtreinish | the uuid decorator is not used on the negative auto generated tests, this was a known quantity going into that work | 19:25 |
| Rockyg | not for havana, but negative api tests should be in the future | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | we'll need to hash this out and figure some way of identifying them for the future .. for now lets discuss a change in refstack client to use the uuid's | 19:26 |
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| slypushenko__ | It can be done easily | 19:28 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: I will take a look and provide recommendation | 19:28 |
| davidlenwell | yes .. I know its an easy change | 19:28 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: that is what I am looking for .. please make a new story in story board for the change and track it | 19:28 |
| slypushenko__ | I can do it tomorrow. | 19:29 |
| catherineD | For me more important is how the tests section of the core tests should be defnine ... Today it is tests:[test1, test2 ...] | 19:29 |
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| catherineD | defined | 19:30 |
| davidlenwell | catherine .. go ahead and put your thoughts into a story in storyboard and assign the work to slypushenko__ | 19:30 |
| catherineD | Yes I will ... | 19:30 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: feels like parse and generation tools is what's needed. Similar to whats happening with capabilities files. | 19:30 |
| davidlenwell | thank you | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | since we have mtreinish: here ... should we discuss about the issues refstack faces on testing ... https://docs.google.com/document/d/12GUhUphBSzPuQqp7WreZ-DXaINnUWSrYAYb4CyPmpAw/edit# | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | do we need to open bug in Tempest ? | 19:32 |
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| mtreinish | catherineD: for the unicode one that's definitely a bug | 19:33 |
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| mtreinish | there are open bps that will address some of the others as part of them | 19:33 |
| mtreinish | like test-accounts part 2 | 19:34 |
| mtreinish | and improved ssh validation | 19:34 |
| mtreinish | and the last one seems like a nova bug | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | mtreinish: I looked at the ssh validation .. mostly they are fro scenario tests ... | 19:34 |
| catherineD | maybe it will apply to API tests ... I will take a closer look ... | 19:35 |
| Rockyg | gotta run. will catch up on my return | 19:35 |
| mtreinish | catherineD: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/qa-specs/specs/ssh-auth-strategy.html | 19:35 |
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| catherineD | mtreinish: thx.. | 19:37 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. lets move on .. | 19:37 |
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| davidlenwell | catherineD has started workign on creating wireframes for some of the upcomming ui work.. | 19:37 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: I will review those today | 19:37 |
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| slypushenko__ | Can it be share with team? | 19:38 |
| davidlenwell | sure | 19:39 |
| davidlenwell | its still early .. but I see no reason that it can't be done in the open | 19:39 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: would you share the link you sent me before? | 19:39 |
| catherineD | First pass mockup https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxvL0emVRKoUVW13TW5BWXg0MXM/view?usp=sharing | 19:40 |
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| catherineD | On this first pass, I concentrate more on the type of data that we need to fetch (for API definition) not look and feel | 19:40 |
| davidlenwell | remember these are a first pass | 19:40 |
| davidlenwell | look and feel comes later .. lets keep it to pure functionality in the early mockups | 19:41 |
| slypushenko__ | ok, thx | 19:41 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. lets move onto open discussion | 19:42 |
| davidlenwell | #topic open discussion | 19:42 |
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| zehicle | we're going to start moving some of the defcore items out of the refstack repos | 19:43 |
| zehicle | just a heads up, no action required here | 19:43 |
| zehicle | at some point, I'd like to talk about how the UUIDs will change the JSON files | 19:44 |
| davidlenwell | great | 19:44 |
| davidlenwell | im sure the moves will have coorasponding commits deleting the files from refstacks repo? | 19:44 |
| catherineD | zehicle: how UUID changes the JSON files is what refstack-client needs for update .... have we decided on how? | 19:45 |
| slypushenko__ | zehicle I think we just should replace test names with uuids | 19:45 |
| catherineD | slypushenko__: I think the long test id should still be there for description purposes .. | 19:46 |
| slypushenko__ | and update capabilities.html page | 19:46 |
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| slypushenko__ | catherineD No. we can easily resolve uuid to test name using github repo | 19:46 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: +1 on the long name | 19:47 |
| zehicle | catherineD, I was assuming we'd just change them | 19:47 |
| zehicle | we'll need a xreference too | 19:47 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: slypushenko__: uuid should be only source of truth. | 19:47 |
| zehicle | I was thinking the xref file would have extra info | 19:47 |
| zehicle | like links to the tests | 19:47 |
| catherineD | I can see some thing like uuid: [testid1, testid2 ..] | 19:47 |
| slypushenko__ | If we keep long names we should care about its consistency | 19:48 |
| hogepodge | slypushenko__: if we tag tempest hash at top of file that becomes an anchor | 19:48 |
| catherineD | test1, test2 is accomodated the path relocation ... | 19:48 |
| hogepodge | the assumption is that the only source of truth in test identification should be uuid, but we need a human readable component. | 19:48 |
| zehicle | remember, Tempest may not be the only test source | 19:49 |
| zehicle | esp when tests move out of Tempest | 19:49 |
| slypushenko__ | if we have tempest tag and uuid we can resovle long names automaticaly... So we don't need to keep it | 19:49 |
| catherineD | slypushenko__: that is good for display not for subunit results ... | 19:50 |
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| catherineD | subunit results are still parsing the test_id and then UUID ... | 19:51 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: if tests move out of tempest they will still have uuid | 19:51 |
| zehicle | yes. that's what I expect | 19:51 |
| zehicle | we're "coding" that into the process | 19:51 |
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| davidlenwell | at least thats how we wrote it in the spec | 19:51 |
| zehicle | tests must have UUID & be part of OpenStack community process | 19:51 |
| hogepodge | zehicle: as a defcore action item for Wednesday we should define a v2 schema for capabilities. | 19:52 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: +1 | 19:52 |
| hogepodge | (heck, maybe every defcore release will require a schema revisit) | 19:52 |
| davidlenwell | true sotry | 19:52 |
| catherineD | once that is defined it would be easier for refstack-client to make the change | 19:52 |
| zehicle | hogepodge, Egle and I were not planning to meet on Wed | 19:53 |
| zehicle | you can keep the meeting if you'd like and work on that | 19:53 |
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| hogepodge | zehicle: ok, good to know. | 19:53 |
| hogepodge | zehicle: I keep signing myself up for writing bluebrints. :-P | 19:53 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: zehicle: before we run out of time ... I would like to make a comment about someone's suggestion on docker image for tests ... | 19:54 |
| zehicle | if you think there's enough people, go ahead and hold the meeting. there's plenty to do | 19:54 |
| zehicle | ok | 19:54 |
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| catherineD | IMOP, refstack-client is pretty easy to install so having a docker image does not help much ... the hard part is the tempest.conf which docker image won't be able to solve | 19:55 |
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| zehicle | catherineD, yes. that's been our experience | 19:56 |
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| hogepodge | I'm open to new attempts. Maybe they know something we don't. | 19:57 |
| hogepodge | But yes, it's a problem. (hence the [interop] tag idea I've been bouncing around) | 19:58 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: agree just want to point out the painpoint | 19:58 |
| hogepodge | (which would aim to solve the tempest.conf problem) | 19:58 |
| zehicle | that's where I'd be interested in seeing if they help. | 19:58 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: thanks. total pain point (see the backlog from #openstack-qa over the last hour) | 19:58 |
| zehicle | having a container can reduce troubleshooting | 19:58 |
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| zehicle | I think it would be really really good to have a known working config | 19:59 |
| hogepodge | zehicle: a web service would too. :-D | 19:59 |
| zehicle | even if most of the tests are not passing | 19:59 |
| zehicle | or disabled | 19:59 |
| zehicle | so that people can check their install | 19:59 |
| hogepodge | interopallthethings.org | 19:59 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. we're out of time again .. but I like this disucssion .. lets move it to #refstack | 19:59 |
| zehicle | :) | 20:00 |
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| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 2 20:01:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-03-02-19.05.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-03-02-19.05.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-03-02-19.05.log.html | 20:01 |
| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 2 20:01:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:01 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:01 | |
| elmiko | yo/ | 20:01 |
| kfarr | o/ | 20:02 |
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| reaperhulk | o/ | 20:02 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:02 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | ok, _some_ barbicaneers here today! | 20:05 |
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| reaperhulk | ha | 20:05 |
| * redrobot is not a robot | 20:05 | |
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| kfox1111 | sounds like something a robot would say... ;) | 20:05 |
| redrobot | as usual our agenda can be found here: | 20:05 |
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| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-02-23-20.00.html | 20:06 |
| redrobot | tsv and arunkant don't seem to be here, so I'll skip them | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #action tsv arunkant to review per-secret-policy for Kilo | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ have you had a chance to talk to Jarret about compliance concerns if we switch to hard deletes? | 20:07 |
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| woodster_ | not yet, I think he's going to be busy for the next few weeks but will try to get ask him | 20:08 |
| redrobot | woodster_ ok, i'll put this back in the queue | 20:08 |
| redrobot | #action woodster_ to reach out to Jarret about compliance concerns if we switch to hard deletes | 20:08 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ also had a note here to get an update on Order sub-status | 20:08 |
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| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157565/ | 20:09 |
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| woodster_ | One +2, two +1s :) | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ is this the CR that implements https://blueprints.launchpad.net/barbican/+spec/add-worker-retry-update-support ? | 20:10 |
| woodster_ | Reviews appreciated | 20:10 |
| arunkant | redrobot, for per-secret-policy update. After discussing with alee, I have started worked on it.. Will have better update next week (based on development status) | 20:10 |
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| alee | arunkant, yay :) | 20:10 |
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| dave-mccowan | o/ | 20:10 |
| redrobot | arunkant awesome! I'll ask again next week. :) | 20:10 |
| arunkant | ok | 20:11 |
| woodster_ | oh know that is different. This one just connects the task processing to the sub-status field on the order, and logic as to wheter the order stays PENDING or not | 20:11 |
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| woodster_ | it is needed for the retry work | 20:11 |
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| woodster_ | So sub-status CR, then the retry CR(s) will be coming | 20:11 |
| redrobot | woodster_ I see... and are you still planning on implementing the spec? I think we agreed that a Rackspace dev would do that for Kilo? | 20:11 |
| woodster_ | I can work on that as a 'background' task :) | 20:12 |
| redrobot | woodster_ hehe, ok. I'll keep you as the assigned person on that BP then. | 20:12 |
| woodster_ | yes, planning to have retries still for kilo | 20:12 |
| redrobot | and lastly, I had an action item that I totally forgot about | 20:13 |
| redrobot | so | 20:13 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to add Castellan to global-requirements | 20:13 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:13 |
| redrobot | #topic Kilo-3 | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | #link https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-3 | 20:13 |
| redrobot | also | 20:14 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 20:14 |
| redrobot | I should point out that this Thursday is the last day to propose Kilo features | 20:14 |
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| redrobot | after Thursday, new and unapproved specs will move to Liberty | 20:15 |
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| redrobot | so, one thing that Thierry recommended was to try to have all code CRs submitted two weeks in advance of the Feature freeze | 20:16 |
| redrobot | which would also be this Thursday. | 20:16 |
| redrobot | I think it's worth considering to give ourselves about two weeks to iterate on CRs for Kilo | 20:16 |
| redrobot | kfarr do you know if there's any outstanding work for the Content-Types spec? | 20:17 |
| kfox1111 | Is my spec considered for Kilo at this point? | 20:17 |
| kfarr | redrobot There's a few merge requests open | 20:18 |
| kfarr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157410/ | 20:18 |
| redrobot | kfox1111 yes, if we can get it landed by Thursday... but I think Liberty is more likely | 20:18 |
| kfarr | ^^ Fixed Binary Encoding to Secret Stores -- a blocking bug | 20:18 |
| kfarr | and | 20:18 |
| kfox1111 | k. :/ | 20:18 |
| kfarr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160444/ Standardized Secret Encoding where the main logic is | 20:19 |
| kfarr | If I understand correctly, these two will finish up content types | 20:19 |
| redrobot | kfarr could you add Implements: blueprint content-type (or Related: blueprint content-types) | 20:19 |
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| redrobot | kfarr to the commit messages | 20:19 |
| igueths | Hi all. | 20:20 |
| redrobot | it's how they're linked to Launchpad. I didn't see any open reviews linked in LP, so I thought we didn't have any. | 20:20 |
| kfarr | redrobot Ah, yes. I will do that, or have Nate do that | 20:20 |
| redrobot | kfarr thanks! | 20:20 |
| woodster_ | BTW I've added a number of certificate related specs out there...the idea was to get them in for folks to look at before Liberty ideally, so we could start work on them in Liberty more quickly | 20:20 |
| kfarr | Once those are merged, then we can work on asymmetric key support | 20:21 |
| redrobot | alee Common Cert API still needs code reviews, yes? Any pending CRs? | 20:21 |
| kfarr | which Nate posted the spec for, as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160449/ | 20:21 |
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| alee | redrobot, yes - I need to revisit shortly | 20:23 |
| alee | there are some CR's for idetifying ca's that are out there , but need to be revised based on the CR's I've landed | 20:23 |
| alee | wil try to get those out this week | 20:24 |
| redrobot | alee awesome | 20:24 |
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| alee | redrobot, how are we doing on the dogtag gate job? would be nice to get that going to test out the cert api and content type chanegs? | 20:25 |
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| redrobot | alee good question.... I'll get to it in a sec | 20:26 |
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| redrobot | I think that about covers Kilo-3. So if you've got time, please, please, please review CRs linked to our outstanding BPs | 20:26 |
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| redrobot | I would especially like to see teh Common Cert API for K-3 | 20:26 |
| redrobot | #topic DogTag gate job | 20:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DogTag gate job (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:27 | |
| redrobot | so you may have noticed me leaving "check experimental" comments on your CRs | 20:27 |
| redrobot | that's the way to trigger the DogTag gate while we iron out the kinks | 20:27 |
| redrobot | it's running DevStack in a Fedora 21 box | 20:28 |
| redrobot | and configuring the DogTag plugin | 20:28 |
| redrobot | and then running the functional test suite | 20:28 |
| redrobot | unfortunately it turns out that the script does not run with elevated privileges, which we had assumed during the mid-cycle | 20:28 |
| redrobot | so I need to refactor all the bash to be able to sudo install things | 20:28 |
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| alee | redrobot, any timeline on when that'll be done by? | 20:29 |
| redrobot | I'm hoping to get to it today/this week | 20:30 |
| redrobot | good news is all the Infra config is there, so we don't need to wait on infra reviews anymore | 20:30 |
| alee | redrobot, awesome -- let me know if you get stuck/need help. I'd really like to see how content types affects the dogtag gate | 20:30 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | #topic 100% Code Coverage | 20:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "100% Code Coverage (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:31 | |
| redrobot | woodster_ did you add this topic? | 20:31 |
| woodster_ | I added that one | 20:31 |
| woodster_ | just curious how we might tackle that | 20:31 |
| woodster_ | the paper-cut/wishlist bugs route seems reasonable to me | 20:32 |
| woodster_ | do we want 100% coverage in Kilo though? | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | I wonder if jvrbanac has any ideas on this? | 20:32 |
| redrobot | woodster_ sure we want it, but I doubt it's doable. :-\ | 20:32 |
| woodster_ | we have been trying to get at least the crypto package to 100% (it is less than that now) | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | #help We need brave souls to jump into the test code and improve our coverage | 20:33 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, I think we need to spend some time removing some of our mocking | 20:33 |
| woodster_ | yeah, it was more for the jaosorior's out there that have a bit of spare time to work on things :) | 20:33 |
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| elmiko | is there a blueprint talking about the improved test coverage, or another way to help guide folks on getting involved? | 20:34 |
| redrobot | elmiko I think that's what woodster_ is asking about... how to get folks involved? | 20:35 |
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| elmiko | i'd like to help write some tests, but i'll probably need some direction on what needs implementing and whatnot | 20:35 |
| redrobot | elmiko but it seems more of a bug than a new feature to me... maybe wishlist bugs is the right spot to advertise this? | 20:35 |
| elmiko | redrobot: wishlist bugs sounds nice, that would help | 20:35 |
| woodster_ | that's what I was thinking...to make this more bite sized (and CRs more bite sized too) | 20:36 |
| elmiko | woodster_: +1 | 20:36 |
| redrobot | #agreed file wishlist bugs for modules that need increased code coverage | 20:36 |
| redrobot | we also haven't revisited the coverage gate in a while | 20:37 |
| redrobot | as of today it's still non-voting | 20:37 |
| redrobot | how do we feel about turning it into a voting gate? | 20:37 |
| redrobot | reaperhulk jvrbanac ^^ | 20:37 |
| woodster_ | it isn't always reliable though | 20:37 |
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| reaperhulk | I don't think it should be a voting gate still | 20:37 |
| redrobot | woodster_ how so? too many false positives? | 20:38 |
| woodster_ | I've seen more than once where it says lines are missing that appear covered by testing | 20:38 |
| woodster_ | it is still a useful gate to scrub out 99% of the uncovered lines. | 20:38 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, woodster_, yeah... lets avoid the voting part for now. We're making steady coverage improvement as is. | 20:39 |
| redrobot | #agreed coverage gate should continue to be non-voting | 20:39 |
| redrobot | anything else on this topic? | 20:39 |
| jvrbanac | As a side note, we're up to 88% | 20:40 |
| jvrbanac | w00t! | 20:40 |
| redrobot | woot woot! (as lisaclark1 would say) | 20:40 |
| chellygel | +1 :D | 20:40 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:40 |
| jvrbanac | Much better than when we started this last summer | 20:40 |
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| woodster_ | +1 | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | #topic VM integration | 20:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VM integration (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:41 | |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159571/ | 20:41 |
| redrobot | It's an interesting use case, but there are some aspects of the BP that I don't think belong in Barbican | 20:41 |
| redrobot | I think landing this in Kilo would be a stretch... so we may want to consider this a Liberty BP. | 20:42 |
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| redrobot | has anyone gotten a chance to review the spec? | 20:43 |
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| jvrbanac | not yet. redrobot, considering the proposal freeze is in a couple days. | 20:44 |
| woodster_ | kfox1111, ^^^^ in case you are still in this IRC (you had mentioned having meeting conflicts) | 20:44 |
| jvrbanac | I'm not sure the spec is gonna land that quick | 20:44 |
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| woodster_ | yeah, and it is blueprint + code CRs needed by Thursday too | 20:45 |
| redrobot | jvrbanac | 20:45 |
| redrobot | jvrbanac agreed | 20:45 |
| redrobot | we'll punt on it until after k-3 | 20:45 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, +1 | 20:45 |
| redrobot | ok, guys, that's all I have in the Agenda | 20:45 |
| redrobot | any other topics we need to discuss? | 20:46 |
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| woodster_ | Just noting there are security tests being worked on now | 20:47 |
| elmiko | i have an update from sahara | 20:47 |
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| elmiko | my spec for barbican integration is approved, and it looks like i'll land the code in k-3 | 20:47 |
| kfarr | If anyone has time, please review the merge request to add cinder's keymgr code to Castellan https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148742/ | 20:47 |
| redrobot | #topic Sahara integration | 20:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sahara integration (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:47 | |
| redrobot | elmiko woot! that' is awesome news | 20:48 |
| elmiko | redrobot: hehe, cool! | 20:48 |
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| woodster_ | elmiko, can you link to the CR again? | 20:48 |
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| elmiko | sure, 1sec. | 20:48 |
| elmiko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157432/ | 20:48 |
| elmiko | that's the spec | 20:48 |
| elmiko | code review will be up soon | 20:48 |
| kfox1111 | woodster_: yeah, I'm here sort of. | 20:49 |
| kfox1111 | The meeting thing said it was at 1:00pm pst, not 12:00pm pst. | 20:49 |
| elmiko | basically once our barbican wrapper is in place, we'll start off-boarding all stored passwords to barbican | 20:49 |
| redrobot | elmiko are you planning to use Castellan as a "barbican wrapper" or are you rolling your own? | 20:49 |
| elmiko | we're gonna start with rolling our own, but i'd like to move to castellan | 20:50 |
| redrobot | kfox1111 this meeting is always at 2000 UTC. | 20:50 |
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| elmiko | i'm writing our wrapper to be tolerant of that switch | 20:50 |
| kfox1111 | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130502T2000 | 20:50 |
| elmiko | so really, we have an internal api that can wrap around whatever we need to use for a key manager | 20:50 |
| kfox1111 | <- says 1:00pm for me. | 20:51 |
| kfox1111 | thats the link given at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:51 |
| elmiko | currently our need is to just get passwords out of our database | 20:51 |
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| redrobot | kfox1111 http://time.is/UTC | 20:51 |
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| kfox1111 | yeah. the website your pointing at is broken. | 20:52 |
| redrobot | kfox1111 seems that website is wrong... I'll update the link to a non-crappy website | 20:52 |
| kfox1111 | thanks. :) | 20:52 |
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| alee | redrobot, rm_work - whats the status of the cert stuff vis a vis castellan? has rm_work given up? | 20:52 |
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| reaperhulk | Haha, timeanddate.com isn't wrong, it just says CDT/PDT when it should say CST/PST right now since that's what we're on | 20:53 |
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| reaperhulk | (so not wrong, but useless) | 20:53 |
| elmiko | lol | 20:53 |
| dave-mccowan | website points to 12:00pm PDT (but it's currently PST) i've gotten bitten by that too | 20:53 |
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| redrobot | alee yeah, I think rm_work has given up for Kilo, may revisit in Liberty | 20:53 |
| alee | redrobot, ok | 20:53 |
| rm_work | yeah :( | 20:54 |
| redrobot | alee rellerreller had agreeed to add a Certificate type to the Castellan interface, but it's not quite what rm_work wanted, so I think it's all on hold | 20:54 |
| rm_work | yeah we're going to revisit our requirements around that in Liberty | 20:54 |
| rm_work | but I didn't see a point in forcing something in that we wouldn't even use | 20:54 |
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| alee | rm_work, you almost had me convinced with a pkcs12 type thing. | 20:55 |
| woodster_ | Maybe we need an extensions/contrib for castellan for optional features like the cert grouping | 20:55 |
| rm_work | yeah, I could maybe have gotten that to work | 20:55 |
| rm_work | but the priority on it is low enough that I had to peel off and work on other stuff | 20:55 |
| redrobot | I agree the PCKS12 story seemed interesting | 20:55 |
| alee | rm_work, but I look forward to another round at the summit | 20:55 |
| rm_work | heh | 20:55 |
| rm_work | we'll see :P | 20:56 |
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| redrobot | ok, that'll wrap it up for this week | 20:57 |
| redrobot | thanks everyone for coming | 20:57 |
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| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 2 20:57:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-02-20.01.html | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-02-20.01.txt | 20:57 |
| elmiko | redrobot: thanks! | 20:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-02-20.01.log.html | 20:57 |
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