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| bswartz | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
| lpabon | o/ | 15:00 |
| rraja | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
| openstack | bswartz: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 15:00 |
| markstur | hello | 15:00 |
| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 15:00:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:00 |
| lpabon | o/ | 15:00 |
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| xyang2 | hi | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hey guys | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | I'm running this meeting from a bus on my cellphone | 15:01 |
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| vponomaryov | nice =) | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | so I might get dropped | 15:01 |
| lpabon | wonders of the internet | 15:01 |
| bswartz | this is just in case I get lost | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #chairs cknight | 15:01 |
| bswartz | #chair cknight | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bswartz cknight | 15:01 |
| bswartz | cknight takeover if I get dropped | 15:02 |
| cknight | bswartz: ok | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | #topic Kilo-RC1 status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-RC1 status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| bswartz | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 15:02 |
| bswartz | so we still have a bunch of open bugs | 15:03 |
| cknight | bswartz: I have several bugs in progress that should be targeted to RC1 | 15:03 |
| bswartz | we've got about 1 more week before we start kicking non-essential bugs out of the release | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | cknight can you email me a list and I'll target them when my plane lands? | 15:03 |
| cknight | bswartz: yes | 15:03 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: when are you planning to cut RC1 | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | xyang2: the target is next week, but that's a soft target | 15:04 |
| bswartz | we will have to judge based on the bugs that are still open | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | we will hold the RC for a critical bug | 15:04 |
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| bswartz | non-critical bugs will simply get retargetted to liberty though | 15:05 |
| bswartz | so don't wait to get bugfixes in | 15:05 |
| cknight | xyang2: will your team be fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1434817 ? | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434817 in Manila "EMC VNX driver should return CIFS export with with backslashes" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Swartzlander (bswartz) | 15:05 |
| xyang2 | cknight: we can | 15:05 |
| bswartz | xyang2: I have fix for it, but my management won't let me submit it | 15:05 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: :( | 15:05 |
| bswartz | that's a funny story | 15:06 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: we can do it | 15:06 |
| bswartz | xyang2: go ahead and fix it yourself -- it's fine with me | 15:06 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I thought you are doing it so I didn't take it | 15:06 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: ok | 15:06 |
| bswartz | yeah I thought I was too | 15:06 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: what about the one about generic CIFS fix? | 15:06 |
| bswartz | that fix should be submitted soon | 15:06 |
| vponomaryov | ok | 15:07 |
| bswartz | in fact I don't know what's holding it up | 15:07 |
| bswartz | when my plane lands I'll look into it | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | my vacation is just ending so I'll be getting caught up on stuff that I ignored last few days | 15:07 |
| toabctl | hi | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | any quesitons about RC1? | 15:08 |
| bswartz | or open bugs? | 15:08 |
| bswartz | I'll review everything in the queue soon | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | so that was the only "topic" I had for today | 15:09 |
| cknight | I'd encourage everyone with multi-share-server drivers to test the new network plug-ins. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | oh except 1 announcement | 15:09 |
| lpabon | of all the bugs, i only see one high that is in progress | 15:09 |
| lpabon | most have fixes commited | 15:09 |
| bswartz | welcome u_glide to the manila core team! | 15:09 |
| vponomaryov | for all: We have fork Horizon with support of latest Manila: #link https://github.com/NetApp/horizon/tree/manila_kilo , if some issues found, please file them at #link https://github.com/NetApp/horizon/issues/ | 15:09 |
| xyang2 | congrats u_glide! | 15:09 |
| bswartz | also some previews | 15:09 |
| bswartz | in the next weeks we'll start to talk about vancouver design summit topics | 15:10 |
| markstur | congrats Igor | 15:10 |
| bswartz | and I'll present my plan for vendor CI | 15:10 |
| bswartz | the CI discussion should be extra interesting given the recent events in the cinder project | 15:10 |
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| xyang2 | vponomaryov: why is that only under NetApp github? | 15:10 |
| lpabon | ^^ and why fork? | 15:11 |
| vponomaryov | xyang2: it is temporary solution | 15:11 |
| bswartz | xyang2: that's where it's been in the past, and it's a fork lpabon because we didn't have another option | 15:11 |
| lpabon | weird | 15:11 |
| bswartz | starting in liberty horizon will offer a real plugin solution we can use | 15:11 |
| lpabon | ah | 15:11 |
| gary-smith_ | work on that is underway :-) | 15:11 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: I thought it was some other location, but I haven't tried with horizon for a while | 15:11 |
| bswartz | so the netapp github repo approach will die with kilo | 15:11 |
| cknight | bswartz: will it be ready for us to use in Liberty? | 15:12 |
| cknight | bswartz: or ready by the end of Liberty? | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | cknight: hopefully early -- maybe not day 1 | 15:12 |
| gary-smith_ | bswartz: +1 | 15:12 |
| markstur | 1+1 = day 2? | 15:12 |
| lpabon | ok, just my question on bugs.. looks like only one HIGH bug is in progress and others are in gerrit... should we be looking adt medium bugs also? | 15:12 |
| bswartz | we can hope | 15:12 |
| david-lyle | plugin mechanism in horizon currently exists, since late juno, been improving since then | 15:12 |
| cknight | lpabon: yes, let's fix everything we can | 15:13 |
| lpabon | cknight: cool | 15:13 |
| david-lyle | just moving to have projects use it rather than fully integrating into the horizon source tree | 15:13 |
| bswartz | david-lyle: thanks | 15:13 |
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| lpabon | Another question: Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1434076 is medium but the patch is on hold | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434076 in Manila "requires ddt >= 0.7.0" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:14 |
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| lpabon | should it be lower than medium? moved to liberty-1? | 15:14 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: ? | 15:15 |
| bswartz | you're the ddt expert | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: it is only about tests | 15:15 |
| lpabon | this is just an example, i'm just trying to gage what goes into RC1 | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: nothing critical, no relation to production at all | 15:15 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: so, we can wait with it to liberty | 15:15 |
| bswartz | lpabon: for the next week we can accept any bug fix that's low risk | 15:15 |
| lpabon | cool thanks | 15:16 |
| bswartz | we will tighten starting next Thursday and starting kicking out stuff that hasn't merged | 15:16 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: about the summit, will you be able to join remotely? | 15:16 |
| bswartz | xyang2: that depends on my unborn daughter | 15:16 |
| bswartz | I will definitely try | 15:16 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: :) | 15:17 |
| cknight | bswartz: +1 | 15:17 |
| bswartz | but if she decides to be born and an inconvenient time then I'm out of luck | 15:17 |
| lpabon | bswartz: congratulations! | 15:17 |
| bswartz | lpabon: ty | 15:17 |
| markstur | baby Liberty! | 15:17 |
| bswartz | lol | 15:17 |
| bswartz | that name is _not_ on the list | 15:17 |
| markstur | better than Lizard | 15:18 |
| cknight | markstur: :-) | 15:18 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: maybe a nick name:) | 15:18 |
| bswartz | okay so we might be able to cut this meeting short | 15:18 |
| bswartz | unless anyone has something else to discuss | 15:18 |
| markstur | Will Manila docs get into official docs for Kilo? | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz; csaba's changes? | 15:19 |
| mkoderer | I will push a new version of the scenario test soon | 15:19 |
| mkoderer | I hope it will be finished today :) | 15:19 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: link? | 15:19 |
| csaba | yes I just wanted to ask that .. | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | bswartz: #link https://review.openstack.org/162542 | 15:19 |
| bswartz | markstur: good question -- I think no but I will double check | 15:20 |
| markstur | that's what I thought. Would be a good goal for Liberty if we can't somehow do it sooner | 15:20 |
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| bswartz | yikes! +518, -439 | 15:21 |
| bswartz | so on the plus side the impact is contained to the glusterfs driver | 15:21 |
| bswartz | but it's a big change | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | and without actually reviewing it right now it sounds like a new feature is being added | 15:22 |
| bswartz | is that the concern> | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | did my wireless drop? | 15:23 |
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| lpabon | no | 15:23 |
| csaba | no | 15:23 |
| bswartz | I'll take a closer look | 15:23 |
| lpabon | csaba what would be the result of not having this fix? | 15:23 |
| vponomaryov | lpabon: maturity | 15:24 |
| vponomaryov | lpabon: kind of | 15:24 |
| markstur | I removed my -1. That was mainly a question of FFE. Not sure about the other -1 and discussions. | 15:24 |
| bswartz | csaba we'll need to know the risks of not fixing this vs the risks of fixing this in kilo | 15:24 |
| lpabon | vponomaryov: yeah, i agree, but I mean what would be the impact to glusterfs w/o the fix | 15:24 |
| csaba | having gluster-native at PoC quality.. | 15:24 |
| bswartz | if others feel that this is a new feature, then csaba should formally request a FFE and we can handle it that way | 15:25 |
| bswartz | csaba: FFE requests go to the ML | 15:25 |
| bswartz | I'll make this change top priority after I land | 15:25 |
| csaba | bswartz: yes I know the procedure | 15:26 |
| bswartz | okay | 15:26 |
| xyang2 | bswartz: does it need a bp as well? | 15:26 |
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| vponomaryov | xyang2: =) | 15:26 |
| bswartz | make sure you justify it with a statement of risks of not fixing it | 15:26 |
| bswartz | no there's no point | 15:26 |
| bswartz | BPs are just for tracking and if we have a bug to track it then it's okay | 15:26 |
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| xyang2 | right now it doesn't have a bp nor a bug fix | 15:27 |
| bswartz | !!! | 15:27 |
| openstack | bswartz: Error: "!!" is not a valid command. | 15:27 |
| csaba | bswartz: is there a conventional subject format for FFEs? | 15:27 |
| bswartz | well that is a problem | 15:27 |
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| lpabon | Error: "!!" is not a valid command -- lol | 15:27 |
| bswartz | csaba: check the ML -- there are examples of other requests | 15:27 |
| csaba | bswartz: OK | 15:27 |
| bswartz | it needs either a bp or a bug | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | anything that's not pure docs or contrib changes need a tracking item in launchpad | 15:28 |
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| bswartz | either a bp or a bug | 15:29 |
| bswartz | so we can "target" it to a milestone | 15:29 |
| bswartz | that's how release management sees what's going into each milestone | 15:29 |
| bswartz | okay enough on that topic | 15:29 |
| bswartz | anything else for today? | 15:30 |
| csaba | bswartz: what's the deadline for doc changes? | 15:30 |
| lpabon | that's all from me | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: is there some docs with meetup topics proposals? | 15:30 |
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| vponomaryov | bswartz: therpad link? | 15:30 |
| bswartz | docs can be changed at any time except right around the actual release | 15:30 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: nothing exists yet | 15:31 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: I can give a short update on manila scenario tests | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | we'll start with that next week | 15:31 |
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| bswartz | mkoderer: go ahead | 15:31 |
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| mkoderer | I will push a new version of the inital scenario test tomorrow | 15:32 |
| mkoderer | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162628/ | 15:32 |
| mkoderer | current state: we have a experimental test run for scenario tests | 15:32 |
| mkoderer | I will release the WiP flag tomorrow | 15:32 |
| mkoderer | it will launche a vm, create a share, allow access and ping the share service | 15:32 |
| mkoderer | that's the inital setup | 15:33 |
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| bswartz | mkoderer: I look forward to checking those out | 15:34 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: should we put a new milestone for L-1? or is kilo still ok? | 15:34 |
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| bswartz | hmm | 15:34 |
| mkoderer | I mean it's just qa and no actual code is changed within manila | 15:35 |
| bswartz | as long as it's nonvoting there's no risk to putting it in kilo really | 15:35 |
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| mkoderer | bswartz: yep exactly | 15:35 |
| bswartz | but also I'm not sure it adds a ton of value either | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | compared to just putting it in liberty | 15:35 |
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| bswartz | we can use the tests to find bugs now, but not make it stardard for every patch until liberty | 15:36 |
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| mkoderer | bswartz: yep that's the thing.. so it won't be voting during kilo | 15:36 |
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| mkoderer | bswartz: so we can move https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/scenario-tests to L-1 | 15:36 |
| bswartz | yeah I'm okay with that | 15:37 |
| mkoderer | bswartz: ok | 15:37 |
| mkoderer | that's all from my side | 15:37 |
| bswartz | thanks mkoderer | 15:37 |
| bswartz | anything else before we wrap up? | 15:37 |
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| bswartz | thanks all | 15:38 |
| lpabon | bye | 15:38 |
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| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 15:38:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-03-26-15.00.html | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-03-26-15.00.txt | 15:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-03-26-15.00.log.html | 15:38 |
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| kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 16:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:00 |
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| kozhukalov | hey guys | 16:01 |
| mattymo | hi all | 16:01 |
| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:01 |
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| mkwiek | hello | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | agenda as usual | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| kozhukalov | is anybody else here? | 16:01 |
| agordeev | hi | 16:01 |
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| akislitsky_ | hi | 16:01 |
| vkramskikh | hi | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | great at least 6 persons | 16:01 |
| kozhukalov | let's start | 16:02 |
| akasatkin_ | hi | 16:02 |
| alex_didenko | hi, 7 now | 16:02 |
| dpyzhov_ | hi | 16:02 |
| angdraug | o/ | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | #topic External ubuntu mirrors and pinning (ikalnitsky, brain461) | 16:02 |
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| prmtl | o/ | 16:02 |
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| ikalnitsky | i'm glad to announce that consume-external-ubuntu feature is in master. it finally merged. | 16:02 |
| mattymo | +1 | 16:02 |
| ikalnitsky | though, there are some improvements we have to do | 16:02 |
| kozhukalov | ikalnitsky: including? | 16:03 |
| ikalnitsky | for instance, we should allow users to change repos after deployment | 16:03 |
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| ikalnitsky | or we should add some warning banner that he need additional steps to run his ubuntu cloud | 16:04 |
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| ikalnitsky | except this, we have issues with apt-pinning | 16:04 |
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| ikalnitsky | currently, we're using pin template (which is hardcoded in Nailgun) | 16:04 |
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| kozhukalov | also build image script needs to be re-written in python and even more today bvt failed because of this script | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | btw, floating bug | 16:05 |
| ikalnitsky | and it may lead us to some issues, when the remote repo has another.. properties | 16:05 |
| kozhukalov | we are working on improving this part | 16:05 |
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| ikalnitsky | attributes | 16:05 |
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| ikalnitsky | looks like that's it from my side. | 16:05 |
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| maximov | to change repos after deployment on master node or on all slaves? | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | and yeah, we obviously need to sync our jobs with patching story | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | maximov, on all slaves | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | for instance, user wants to add new nodes to existing env | 16:06 |
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| angdraug | ikalnitsky: why not simplify apt pinning preferences by not having separate entry for each component? | 16:06 |
| ikalnitsky | and his repos aren't available | 16:06 |
| angdraug | we still have the same priority for all components in a single archive | 16:07 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug, what do you mean exactly? | 16:07 |
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| ikalnitsky | it looks like we misunderstood each other | 16:07 |
| angdraug | you have separate pinning entries for main and restricted | 16:08 |
| angdraug | both pinned at 1050 | 16:08 |
| ikalnitsky | yep | 16:08 |
| ikalnitsky | it doesn't work in one entry | 16:08 |
| angdraug | if you don't specify c=main explicitly, such entry would cover all components of an archive | 16:08 |
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| kozhukalov | angdraug: because we have template | 16:08 |
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| kozhukalov | angdraug: and it is not very beautiful to have ifs for plenty of different cases | 16:09 |
| angdraug | now you've lost me | 16:09 |
| kozhukalov | it is better to have a loop over all sections | 16:09 |
| ikalnitsky | guys, here's what we have for mos component | 16:10 |
| ikalnitsky | #link http://xsnippet.org/360594/raw/ | 16:10 |
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| ikalnitsky | as far as i understand, angdraug means why do we have two pins declarations instead of one? | 16:10 |
| kozhukalov | the issue with pinning now is that we are not able to have different priorities for different repos if they both have the same suite and the same section | 16:10 |
| ikalnitsky | am i correct? | 16:10 |
| angdraug | and you could have: http://xsnippet.org/360595/ | 16:10 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug, and what if i want to pin main from mos6.1 with another priority? | 16:11 |
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| ikalnitsky | i just add additional repo | 16:11 |
| ikalnitsky | with exactly main section | 16:11 |
| ikalnitsky | and set another prio | 16:11 |
| ikalnitsky | different from restricted section | 16:11 |
| ikalnitsky | what i have to do then? | 16:11 |
| angdraug | on my debian system, I have different pin priorities for stable, testing, and unstable | 16:11 |
| angdraug | they each have the same set of sections | 16:12 |
| angdraug | works fine | 16:12 |
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| kozhukalov | for debian yes | 16:12 |
| angdraug | why would you ever want a different pin priority for main and restricted? | 16:12 |
| kozhukalov | but sections are not fixed | 16:12 |
| ikalnitsky | angdraug, why not? it's possible technically | 16:12 |
| ikalnitsky | it doesn't cause any problems | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | the issue is that it looks like we don't have enough data for setting pinning properly | 16:13 |
| angdraug | no, no immediate problems, just giving user more ways to shoot themselves in a foot, and making it harder to read the preferences file | 16:13 |
| kozhukalov | url + suite + section is not enough | 16:13 |
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| angdraug | this is taking too much time, lets discuss it later | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | it looks like in the future it is better to download Release file and set pinning according to metadata in this file | 16:14 |
| kozhukalov | yes | 16:15 |
| ikalnitsky | move on guys | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | if there are no other q let's move on | 16:15 |
| kozhukalov | #topic IBP (agordeev, kozhukalov) | 16:15 |
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| agordeev | hi | 16:15 |
| agordeev | I'll start with the listing of current IBP activites: | 16:16 |
| agordeev | 1) Rewriting fuel-image in python is in progress now. ETA 1w | 16:16 |
| agordeev | 2) Work on progress bar hasn't been started. We are going to ask some help from our fuel-ruby team on next week. | 16:16 |
| agordeev | 3) Pinning for image building process isn't finished yet. We are waiting for help from more experienced engineers. | 16:16 |
| agordeev | 4) Our ubuntu BVT is red for today due to fuel-image script breakage, I'm working on its fixing, ETA today | 16:16 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: is it still red? | 16:17 |
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| kozhukalov | i thought it is a floating bug | 16:17 |
| ikalnitsky | yep | 16:17 |
| ikalnitsky | i see that bvt are green | 16:17 |
| ikalnitsky | though ubuntu smoke is still red | 16:17 |
| kozhukalov | ok, needs to be fixed | 16:18 |
| agordeev | kozhukalov: i don't know. I'm fixing the script | 16:18 |
| ikalnitsky | agordeev, please ping devs for review when it's ready | 16:18 |
| ikalnitsky | it's important to merge it asap | 16:18 |
| agordeev | ikalnitsky: sure, i'll do | 16:18 |
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| kozhukalov | the error was that build image script could not find loop device | 16:18 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: thanx for working on this | 16:19 |
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| kozhukalov | and looks like some people still don't see the advantages of IBP, i think we need to write kind of blog post maybe | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, are there any other q? | 16:20 |
| agordeev | kozhukalov: the advantages for users to be exact | 16:20 |
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| kozhukalov | let's skip next topic since aglarendil is not available right now | 16:21 |
| kozhukalov | agordeev: yep | 16:21 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Bugs status (dpyzhov) | 16:22 |
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| kozhukalov | dpyzhov_: how far are we from scf? how many bugs are there? | 16:22 |
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| dpyzhov_ | Well, we have five days until SCF | 16:22 |
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| dpyzhov_ | and we have a huge number of bugs | 16:23 |
| kozhukalov | some of them are not actually bugs but feature requests. right? | 16:23 |
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| dpyzhov_ | about 700 confirmed bugs and almost 150 bugs in progress | 16:24 |
| dpyzhov_ | We are trying to separate tech debt and feature requests from this list | 16:24 |
| dpyzhov_ | I've added 'feature' tag for such stuff | 16:24 |
| dpyzhov_ | 'feature' means: this bug needs either proper design or it is not a bug at all | 16:25 |
| dpyzhov_ | Also I'm not sure if we really have 150 bugs in progress | 16:25 |
| dpyzhov_ | It's a really big number and maybe some of them are orphaned | 16:26 |
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| angdraug | any in progress bug that wasn't updated for more than a week is orphaned | 16:27 |
| dpyzhov_ | I think that we really need to walk through 'feature' bugs and decide how to deal with them\ | 16:27 |
| angdraug | any in progress bug that wasn't updated for more than a day is probably orphaned too | 16:27 |
| dpyzhov_ | Most of this bugs are travelling from one release to another | 16:27 |
| angdraug | are they attached to blueprints? | 16:28 |
| kozhukalov | guys, what do you think of the idea to try to deal with loads of bugs using kind of bayesian algorithm? | 16:28 |
| angdraug | write an AI to fix bugs? | 16:28 |
| kozhukalov | at least for categorizing them | 16:28 |
| dpyzhov_ | angdraug: yes, we should ping owners of hanged bugs. no, most of this bugs are just suggestions | 16:28 |
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| kozhukalov | angdraug: don't exaggerate me | 16:29 |
| dpyzhov_ | our workflow for blueprints is even worse then our workflow for 'feature' bugs | 16:29 |
| angdraug | kozhukalov: sorry, couldn't resist :) | 16:29 |
| angdraug | I'm just not sure "feature" tag is necessary, we already have wishlist priority for such thing | 16:30 |
| dpyzhov_ | I think that our list of blueprints was not revised for a long time | 16:30 |
| dpyzhov_ | angdraug: actually some of 'feature' bugs represent real user pain | 16:31 |
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| dpyzhov_ | so we need to have priorities for this wishlist | 16:31 |
| angdraug | if they are more important than a wishlist bug, they must have a blueprint | 16:31 |
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| dpyzhov_ | angdraug: maybe | 16:32 |
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| dpyzhov_ | angdraug: so your proposal is to start working with blueprints more carefully? | 16:32 |
| angdraug | yes | 16:32 |
| angdraug | maybe make it part of bugs triage duty, or have a separate duty | 16:33 |
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| kozhukalov | how are you guys able to read them? i mean do you sleep sometimes? | 16:33 |
| angdraug | most of our blueprints only have a title, so not a big deal :p | 16:34 |
| angdraug | all you need is ESP to read the mind of blueprint creator ) | 16:34 |
| kozhukalov | -) | 16:34 |
| angdraug | seriously, identifying bugs that should be associated with a blueprint should be a part of bugs triage | 16:35 |
| angdraug | triaging blueprints themselves is an entirely different story though | 16:35 |
| angdraug | but I don't see a way around it | 16:35 |
| dpyzhov_ | angdraug: we have 381 blueprint | 16:35 |
| kozhukalov | no so many, right? -) | 16:36 |
| docaedo | holy smoke thats a lot | 16:36 |
| angdraug | tbh we have even more product backlog items | 16:36 |
| dpyzhov_ | so it's about 1000 user stories | 16:36 |
| angdraug | most of them overlap, so probably more like 500 | 16:37 |
| kozhukalov | is there a chance we address them all somewhen before end of the Universe? | 16:37 |
| dpyzhov_ | should we throw away half of them? | 16:37 |
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| angdraug | we're addressing several dozen in each release, don't we? | 16:37 |
| angdraug | so we only got 2-3 years worth of user stories there | 16:37 |
| angdraug | and yes, we should throw away some of them, but it's only part of the problem | 16:38 |
| dpyzhov_ | angdraug: but we getting new stories faster | 16:38 |
| angdraug | that's normal, as long as we have a process in place to prioritize them | 16:39 |
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| angdraug | which is exactly what product backlog is for | 16:39 |
| angdraug | we do need something like that on the community side of the project, though | 16:40 |
| angdraug | xarses: around? | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | ok, guys, maybe it is better to move our chatter to the open discussion | 16:40 |
| kozhukalov | looks like we are done with bugs | 16:40 |
| dpyzhov_ | so we should convert all 'feature' bugs to blueprints, add blueprints to the backlog and let backlog owners deal with it? | 16:40 |
| angdraug | all feature bugs that are higher priority than wishlist | 16:40 |
| angdraug | I think it's fine to leave wishlist bugs as just bugs | 16:41 |
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| angdraug | and keep them targeted at next instead of current release series, so that we don't have to move them every release | 16:41 |
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| dpyzhov_ | good point about 'next' release | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | +1 | 16:42 |
| dpyzhov_ | I'm tired of moving all the 'volume manager refactoring' bugs each release | 16:42 |
| angdraug | ) | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | ok, moving on | 16:42 |
| kozhukalov | #topic Open discussion | 16:43 |
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| dpyzhov_ | thank you, it was productive discussion | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | how about activities from US and Polish teams? | 16:43 |
| kozhukalov | is there anything interesting? | 16:43 |
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| kozhukalov | angdraug: is there? | 16:44 |
| mkwiek | I hit a little bump with nailgun tests, but need to put more work to diagnose it and show eventual solution, so maybe I will have sth for agenda next week | 16:44 |
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| kozhukalov | mkwiek: great | 16:45 |
| kozhukalov | looking forward | 16:45 |
| angdraug | nothing interesting on the us side, rmoe is working on bugs, and xarses on openrc related cleanup | 16:45 |
| kozhukalov | seriously guys, we need to share info between locations | 16:45 |
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| kozhukalov | dpyzhov_ angdraug what about merging this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155698/? | 16:46 |
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| kozhukalov | looks like enough +1s | 16:47 |
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| kozhukalov | this one is also have two +1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165537/ | 16:48 |
| dpyzhov_ | kozhukalov: merged. both of them | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | one more time, if you guys have anything to share: status, issue, question, please don't hesitate to add this into agenda | 16:49 |
| kozhukalov | it is extremely simple https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:49 |
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| kozhukalov | dpyzhov_: great, thanx | 16:49 |
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| kozhukalov | ok, looks like no one has anything more to discuss | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | ending then? | 16:50 |
| kozhukalov | thanks everyone for attending | 16:50 |
| IvanKliuk | thanks! | 16:51 |
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| kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 16:51:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-03-26-16.00.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-03-26-16.00.txt | 16:51 |
| mkwiek | ty, bye | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-03-26-16.00.log.html | 16:51 |
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| tmcpeak | yo | 17:00 |
| * sicarie waves | 17:00 | |
| tmcpeak | #startmeeting OpenStack Security Group | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 17:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:00 | |
| elmiko | hi | 17:00 |
| nkinder | hi | 17:00 |
| sicarie | o/ | 17:00 |
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| bpb_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| singlethink | o/ | 17:00 |
| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | we'll give a couple minutes for stragglers like tkelsey and then start collecting agenda items | 17:01 |
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| tkelsey | o/ | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | guess Roll Call is probably Role Call anyway :P | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | allright, maybe small group today, agenda items? | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | Bandit | 17:02 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: you got anything on OSSNs? | 17:03 |
| nkinder | OSSN YAML format | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | yep, thought so :) | 17:03 |
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| ukbelch | o/ | 17:03 |
| redrobot | o/ | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | sicarie, elmiko: sec guide? | 17:03 |
| sicarie | sure | 17:03 |
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| gmurphy | o/ | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | any other agenda items? | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | allright, maybe a short one today | 17:04 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | we pinned a version, we're live on PyPI :) | 17:04 |
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| tmcpeak | bknudson: update on your side of the house? | 17:05 |
| d-9 | omg! good work guys | 17:05 |
| sicarie | very cool! | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson has been doing the good stuff | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | d-9, sicarie: thanks! | 17:05 |
| elmiko | nice, grats! | 17:05 |
| tmcpeak | lots of hard work from lots of folks | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | :) | 17:05 |
| redrobot | woot! | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | so.. bknudson is really the person to discuss next steps, because he's been driving it | 17:06 |
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| tmcpeak | in short he has a few jobs going to get what we need to run Bandit in Keystone | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | we may be blocked on adding Bandit into requirements now | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | due to requirements freeze | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | does anybody know when that ends? | 17:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule would suggest Apr 30 | 17:07 |
| d-9 | tmcpeak I would guess after the Kilo summit | 17:07 |
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| * tmcpeak impatient… | 17:07 | |
| d-9 | thanks sigmavirus24 | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | d-9: or after teh summit | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | Either | 17:07 |
| * sigmavirus24 isn't certain | 17:08 | |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24, d-9: thanks guys | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | I guess that's a month ish.. not the end of the world | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | would have been nice to have it running before summit | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | I don't know if that's possible or not without having it in requirements, I'll probably go ping CI guys at some point | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | anywho stay tuned :) good things to follow | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | #topic OSSN YAML format | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: ^ | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | take it away :) | 17:09 |
| nkinder | So tmcpeak created a rough script to do basic conversion of the existing OSSN format to YAML | 17:09 |
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| tmcpeak | when he says rough, he means it :D | 17:10 |
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| nkinder | An example of what it does now is here - http://paste.openstack.org/show/196912/ | 17:10 |
| nkinder | It's got some bugs, as you can see by the duplicated portion in the 'summary' section, but it's a start | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: ping me after the meeting about teh depfreeze | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: awesome, will do | 17:11 |
| nkinder | I'm more interested in looking at how to make the structure useful first | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: everything I looked at (all 3 of them) worked perfectly :P | 17:11 |
| nkinder | So the affected releases and versions should be broken out instead of just being a CSV lits | 17:11 |
| nkinder | list | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: ok cool | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | how do you intend to do that? | 17:12 |
| nkinder | Here's what I was thinking - http://paste.openstack.org/show/196913/ | 17:12 |
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| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:12 |
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| tkelsey | hey hyakuhei | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | Mr. Rob - wassup | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Sorry I’m late, thanks for running things tmcpeak | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: this looks good | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | what about in the case of our oddball OSSNs where they don't fit into nice format | 17:12 |
| nkinder | so I'm playing with some code that can idenfity known services and releases to do the conversion from OSSN->YAML and split these out | 17:12 |
| tmcpeak | sure | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: I’m in and out so please carry on :) | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | k, cool | 17:13 |
| nkinder | well, there has to be some "other" category | 17:13 |
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| nkinder | affected_other or something with a better name | 17:13 |
| tmcpeak | sounds reasonable | 17:13 |
| nkinder | With the releases and versions split out, it's easy to write a tool to parse it to see if a particular deployment is affected | 17:13 |
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| nkinder | so that's what I'm working on now, plus general script cleanup | 17:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | nkinder: one idea: yaml allows you not to have to use super long strings like that. If you want you should be able to use some YAML features to write those as real paragraphs | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: cool, sounds good | 17:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | I forget if it's like discussion: > | 17:14 |
| nkinder | sigmavirus24: yeah, tmcpeak and I talked abotu that some | 17:14 |
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| * sigmavirus24 missed it | 17:14 | |
| sigmavirus24 | sorry | 17:14 |
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| nkinder | We will need to have some logic to do line-wrapping at the appropriate width when we do YAML->e-mail conversion | 17:15 |
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| nkinder | we don't want to force the e-mail width on the YAML file. We wan't flexibility there if possible. | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, it's very difficult to automatically tell which line breaks should be preserved and which shouldn't | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | s/difficult/impossible | 17:15 |
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| nkinder | yeah | 17:15 |
| nkinder | I'm waving my hands on that issue for now :) | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | if we can get a script to do 80% we can clean manually later | 17:16 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: cool, do you need any help from OSSG or you got it for now? | 17:16 |
| nkinder | I have it for now. I might have something to play with here next week. | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: awesome, sounds good. Thanks for taking this | 17:17 |
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| nkinder | sure, thanks for your first pass at the sript! | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | I <3 hack-jobbing things | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | ;) | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Sec Guide | 17:17 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie, elmiko - take it away | 17:18 |
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| sicarie | Yeah, so we have our current bugs list here: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=sec-guide | 17:18 |
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| tmcpeak | that's a pretty solid list | 17:18 |
| sicarie | Still mostly structural changes going on | 17:18 |
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| sicarie | I am trying to review the case studies to ensure they're sane | 17:18 |
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| sicarie | For example, one of the recurring examples is a federal customer who is supposed to be fedramp certified, and the controls don't match | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | lol, sane case studies are good | 17:19 |
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| tmcpeak | sounds like a heap of work | 17:19 |
| sicarie | So there's an etherpad outlining the current case studies and discussing changes in the bug: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1349540 | 17:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1349540 in openstack-manuals "Ensure one case study per chapter in security guide" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to N Dillon (sicarie) | 17:19 |
| sicarie | Any input is appreciated | 17:19 |
| sicarie | Yep, it keeps me busy | 17:19 |
| elmiko | yea, we could probably use one more reviewer/comitter who has time | 17:19 |
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| sicarie | +1 | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | any takers? | 17:19 |
| sicarie | Even the general list - most of them should be smaller bugs | 17:20 |
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| sicarie | Also, anyone who wanted to review some of the chapters we know have issues | 17:20 |
| sicarie | Identity, Dashboard, Network, Storage | 17:20 |
| sicarie | filing bugs against those would be awesome | 17:20 |
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| sicarie | But yeah, that's about it | 17:21 |
| elmiko | i should be filing some bugs on Identity in the next few days | 17:21 |
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| tmcpeak | we should do one of these events soon where nkinder comes to your place of employment and rounds up some new OSSG troops | 17:21 |
| shelleea007 | i can do any one of those | 17:21 |
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| tmcpeak | shelleea007: awesome! | 17:21 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: lol, nice! | 17:21 |
| sicarie | And Priti also said she'd review Identity, so Dashboard, Network, Storage are open | 17:21 |
| nkinder | :) | 17:21 |
| shelleea007 | ill take network | 17:22 |
| elmiko | thanks | 17:22 |
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| nkinder | I can take a look at Identity too | 17:22 |
| sicarie | awesome, thanks! | 17:22 |
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| tmcpeak | #action shelleea007 to review sec guide network section | 17:22 |
| sicarie | +1 nkinder: always helps to have eyes on it | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | sicarie: what am I going to ask about? :P | 17:22 |
| sicarie | no idea | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | secure development guidelines | 17:23 |
| sicarie | hahaa | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | what's the latest on those? | 17:23 |
| sicarie | I put in the pull request against the git repo this morning | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | #action nkinder to review sec guide identity section | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder, shelleea007: thank ou! | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | you | 17:23 |
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| sicarie | So if I get an initial +1 on how I'm approaching it I'll continue | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | sicarie: sweet | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | ok, I'll take a look at those | 17:24 |
| bknudson | requirements freeze will be lifted once the rc is cut, I think. I don't think I have to wait for requirements update to get the change in keystone or infra. | 17:24 |
| sicarie | And there are a few of those that need some attention as well - xss, cert validation | 17:24 |
| gmurphy | lgtm i had a quick look just before. | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: awesome, let's circle back around in one min | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | I'm curious to hear update | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | gmurphy: thanks for looking at them | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | anybody that has cycles, please look at sicarie's secuire guidelines change | 17:25 |
| tmcpeak | sicarie: link? | 17:25 |
| gmurphy | we should probably try to add more to those too. | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | gmurphy: +1 , I think once we get them out there it will seem like lower barrier to entry to publish new ones | 17:26 |
| sicarie | hyakuhei's is: #link: https://github.com/openstack-security/Developer-Guidance | 17:26 |
| sicarie | Not sure how to show the pull request | 17:26 |
| sicarie | or the diff from the pull request | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | https://github.com/openstack-security/Developer-Guidance/pulls | 17:26 |
| sicarie | That would be it | 17:26 |
| gmurphy | #link - https://github.com/openstack-security/Developer-Guidance/pull/1 | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | will take a look | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie: thanks for all your hard work on all of this | 17:27 |
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| sicarie | no problem | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit Circle Back | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | bknudson: take it away :) | 17:27 |
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| bknudson | there's changes proposed for an infra job and for keystone tox env | 17:28 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157595/ | 17:28 |
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| bknudson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157930/ | 17:28 |
| bknudson | so once the infra job is in there I should be able to recheck experimental | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | this looks great | 17:29 |
| bknudson | and see the bandit results in gerrit | 17:29 |
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| bknudson | I think the changes can go in in any order. | 17:29 |
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| bknudson | anyway, that's all I'm waiting on | 17:29 |
| bknudson | eventually will change the experimental job to a non-voting | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | great work bknudson! | 17:29 |
| bknudson | and if that goes well then hopefully to voting. | 17:29 |
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| tmcpeak | super excited, we're getting very close to having working Bandit gate in Keystone | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | thanks for driving this forward | 17:30 |
| elmiko | nice | 17:30 |
| bknudson | the rest of the project can do something similar | 17:30 |
| bknudson | not sure if anyone is signed up for that | 17:30 |
| bknudson | but might as well see it working on keystone first | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | Barbican expressed interest, Anchor is in the bag :D | 17:30 |
| elmiko | i have a tangential bandit question | 17:31 |
| d-9 | sicarie the random sample of your changes that I've just looked at seem pretty good :) | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: what's up? | 17:31 |
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| elmiko | so, let's say we use bandit to expose potential errors in our code base | 17:31 |
| elmiko | and we create bugs from those | 17:31 |
| elmiko | should we mark those bugs are security related? | 17:31 |
| elmiko | or should they be private at first? | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: I have been marking them as private security | 17:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | i think judgement is the better thing to rely on | 17:32 |
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| redrobot_mobile | I'll take a look at the Keystone job, and maybe add an experimental gate to Barbican as well. | 17:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | some things might not need private security | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | redrobot_mobile: awesome! | 17:32 |
| elmiko | yea, that's kinda my question. what is the cut line for a private bug? | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, it really depends how exploitable you think it is | 17:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | yeah | 17:32 |
| elmiko | ok | 17:32 |
| tmcpeak | if you aren't sure mark it private | 17:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | yeah | 17:32 |
| bknudson | I assume security brings it to vmt attention | 17:32 |
| bknudson | ? | 17:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | bknudson: not sure. it mails the ossg mailing list though | 17:32 |
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| sigmavirus24 | all activity on that bug will then be sent to the mailing list | 17:33 |
| bknudson | hopefully private security don't email ossg | 17:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | nope | 17:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | they don't | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | is you mark a bug a private security the vmt get notified | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | public security = ossg | 17:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | gmurphy: right | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | notifications etc | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | on openstack-security | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | i think | 17:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | (Same with SecurityImpact on reviews) | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | or if you tag the patch #security or whatever | 17:33 |
| gmurphy | yeah | 17:33 |
| elmiko | ok, thanks. that helps. | 17:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh that's the other thing, if you report a bug as private security DO NOT SUBMIT A REVIEW FIXING | 17:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | *IT | 17:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | Work on the bug itself uploading patches | 17:34 |
| gmurphy | yes. otherwise the vmt will find you and kick you. | 17:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yep | 17:34 |
| elmiko | good to know | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | VMT is good at finding you | 17:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: they work for the NSA, right? | 17:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | that's what I heard | 17:34 |
| * sigmavirus24 googles | 17:35 | |
| tmcpeak | #topic Other Business | 17:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other Business (Meeting topic: OpenStack Security Group)" | 17:35 | |
| sigmavirus24 | No Such Agency with that acronym | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | anything else anybody wants to discuss before we call it? | 17:35 |
| bknudson | there has been discussion about a private gerrit for private security reviews | 17:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | I have a bug that y'all might want to weigh in on but it's not really OSSG business | 17:35 |
| gmurphy | yeah. that has been going on.. forever.. | 17:35 |
| elmiko | tmcpeak: is there an etherpad up for OSSG break out sessions at summit? | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: what's up? | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko: good question | 17:36 |
| sigmavirus24 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1100220 | 17:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1100220 in glance_store "Swift+Glance stops working after changing service password" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ian Cordasco (icordasc) | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | elmiko: we’ll have one up early next week | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | I actually don't know anything about the summit.. nkinder - hyakuhei ? | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | Friday is dedicated to me sorting OSSG things | 17:36 |
| tmcpeak | sweet | 17:36 |
| elmiko | hyakuhei: cool, thanks | 17:36 |
| hyakuhei | no worries | 17:36 |
| * sigmavirus24 will participate if he doesn't leave before the session happens | 17:36 | |
| tmcpeak | cool, anything else? | 17:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | opinions on the best way to handle https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1100220 would be cool | 17:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1100220 in glance_store "Swift+Glance stops working after changing service password" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ian Cordasco (icordasc) | 17:37 |
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| tmcpeak | oh, meant to check this out | 17:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | Also, perhaps we need a guideline to make sure no one ever stores credentials in plain-text anywhere when used in a URI (if we don't have one) | 17:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | Yeah it's not pressing. Just, feedback appreciated. :D | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | yeah, password in URI's is bad | 17:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | YEP | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | sigmavirus24: that’s horrible | 17:39 |
| sigmavirus24 | Nah, it's perfectly fine. ;) | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | why can I see this if OSSA is New | 17:40 |
| gmurphy | because it is public | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | he opened it up? | 17:40 |
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| sigmavirus24 | tmcpeak: it wasn't reported as private | 17:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | and the VMT does not care once it's been publicly reported | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok | 17:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | going public -> private security just gets it re-opened again | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, once it's public it's public | 17:41 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Also this is two years in the open like this | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | well this is good times :) | 17:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | yep | 17:42 |
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| tmcpeak | anything else for today? | 17:42 |
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| tmcpeak | cool | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 17:43:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-26-17.00.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-26-17.00.txt | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2015/openstack_security_group.2015-03-26-17.00.log.html | 17:43 |
| nkinder | thanks! | 17:43 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | lol | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | ^ | 17:44 |
| tmcpeak | openstack has changed the topic to: : ML2 Sync and error handling (Task Flow) - revisited (Meeting topic: networking_ml2) | 17:44 |
| elmiko | always... | 17:44 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 17:44 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 19:00:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:00 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic rollcall | 19:00 |
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| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:01 |
| obulpathi | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineR | o/ | 19:01 |
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| malini | o/ | 19:01 |
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| obulpathi | o/ | 19:02 |
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| sriram | _/\_ | 19:02 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link Agenda git@github.com:rackerlabs/finding_dory.git | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | ugh | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:02 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Last Weeks Action Items | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-19-19.01.html | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | no items | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Kilo Updates | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/gate-api-tests | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | i stil have made no extra progress on this | 19:03 |
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| sriram | cool | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/shared-ssl | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | i need to rename that story | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | Yeah, coz shared SSl is complete. | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | should really be SSL cert support | 19:04 |
| tonytan4ever | or something along that line. | 19:05 |
| malini | I vote to mark the bp complete ;) | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/san-cert-ssl | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | well shared is still in review | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | hasnt been merged yet right | 19:05 |
| tonytan4ever | That's right, so we can leave it in review,. | 19:05 |
| tonytan4ever | SAN cert support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165656/ | 19:05 |
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| sriram | I'll get in a look on all the reviews needed to be done, today evening. | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | I guess we can call it in review now as well. | 19:06 |
| obulpathi | will review it | 19:06 |
| * sriram hasnt been looking at patches for the last few days | 19:06 | |
| amitgandhinz | is SAN dev done? | 19:06 |
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| tonytan4ever | I am cowardly saying yes. | 19:06 |
| tonytan4ever | because I don't have any end to end test done yet. | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | ya | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | ok updated the status to in review then | 19:07 |
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| tonytan4ever | K | 19:07 |
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| amitgandhinz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/vanity-ssl | 19:07 |
| tonytan4ever | And here custom cert support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168110/ | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | thats the custom cets | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | is that ready for reviews too? | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | I would call this one in good progress. | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:08 |
| tonytan4ever | Needs a little touch on this one. | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | thanks | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/home-doc | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | this was merged =) | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | yay | 19:08 |
| miqui | haha, cool | 19:09 |
| miqui | thanks all | 19:09 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok bugs.... | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | not much to report on this front.... | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | most of this week has been testing and trying to find bugs (end to end from customer perspective) rather than fixing new ones | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | does anyone want to add anything regarding bugs? | 19:10 |
| sriram | nothing from ,e. | 19:11 |
| sriram | *me | 19:11 |
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| malini | me neither | 19:11 |
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| miqui | not me | 19:11 |
| sriram | quick question: wasnt this already fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1421183 | 19:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1421183 in Poppy "PATCH - Adding a second rule to an origin causes the service to go to failed state" [High,New] | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | umm yeh | 19:12 |
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| sriram | lets close it, and mark as resolved. | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | well not sure | 19:12 |
| sriram | oh | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | the one i fixed was the one where it would get stuck in update mode | 19:12 |
| sriram | ok lets take a look. | 19:12 |
| sriram | I see | 19:12 |
| sriram | must have had it confused. | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: you want to confirm if that is still a bug (you raised it) | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | it may have inadvertantly got fixed | 19:13 |
| malini | I will chk that | 19:13 |
| malini | IIRC obulpathi might have intentionally fixed that | 19:13 |
| obulpathi | hmm .. not sure | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | lets recheck it | 19:13 |
| malini | yeap..I dont remember well either | 19:14 |
| obulpathi | I did not work on this one | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:14 |
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| sriram | ha, looks I stirred a can of worms :P | 19:14 |
| malini | well..we have a test for that https://github.com/stackforge/poppy/blob/master/tests/api/services/data_patch_service.json#L51 | 19:14 |
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| malini | so might be fixed | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | yup must be passing | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | ok any open discussion items ya'll want to discuss? | 19:15 |
| malini | mike Xin around?? | 19:15 |
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| malini | I dont know his nick.. | 19:15 |
| malini | so I'll give his update | 19:15 |
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| amitgandhinz | he's not here | 19:16 |
| malini | Mike has a talk accepted for the summit http://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/event/4637d23869682eb21a8a2d373797acc6#.VRRbLIHF8l6 | 19:16 |
| malini | & he wants to use security tests in poppy as a POC | 19:16 |
| obulpathi | wow nice | 19:16 |
| malini | so we'll some new patches for security tests coming in | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | oh awesome | 19:17 |
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| miqui | thats nice | 19:17 |
| malini | everybody review them & lets get those merged :) | 19:17 |
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| miqui | +1 | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | +1 | 19:17 |
| malini | starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159234/ | 19:17 |
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| obulpathi | +1 | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | btw the poppy talk was rejected (i cant remember if i mentioned that) | 19:17 |
| tonytan4ever | +1 | 19:17 |
| malini | that was rude tonytan4ever | 19:18 |
| malini | ;) | 19:18 |
| sriram | lol | 19:18 |
| tonytan4ever | You know I wasn't +1 on the rejection of poppy talk. | 19:18 |
| malini | you know I was kidding | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever better be careful or i'll ship him off to boston in the winter ;-) | 19:19 |
| malini | :D | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | ... | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | Lucky winter just passed. | 19:19 |
| miqui | hehehe | 19:19 |
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| sriram | more time to submit a talk for the next event ;) (Looks at positives) | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | ok any thing else talk about | 19:19 |
| sriram | no I'm done. | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: did you get a chance to look into devstack or the sqla stuff? | 19:20 |
| miqui | amitgandhinz: i'll take a stab at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/devstack | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | =D | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | haha cool | 19:20 |
| sriram | whoa, talk about co-incidence | 19:20 |
| miqui | hehe | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | ive had a few ppl ask about devstack so this will be awesome to have | 19:20 |
| miqui | have to admit, everytime i have tried installing devstack ...it has not gone well... | 19:20 |
| sriram | one thing id like to mention. | 19:21 |
| malini | with devstack running api tests on the gate will be simple | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | miqui: yeh ive heard its a struggle | 19:21 |
| sriram | we need to add low hanging fruit tags to simple bug/bps | 19:21 |
| malini | miqui: I feel ur pain..I have dabbled with it a bit. ping me if u need help | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | ya we did that initially, but lost track of doing it | 19:21 |
| sriram | for anyone to get started with poppy. | 19:21 |
| miqui | thanks malini | 19:21 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: oh cool | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | anything else? | 19:22 |
| malini | nope | 19:22 |
| miqui | noep | 19:22 |
| miqui | nope | 19:22 |
| tonytan4ever | I am kinda new to this. | 19:22 |
| tonytan4ever | What is devstack and what should be a typical integration process to devstack ? | 19:23 |
| tonytan4ever | Can someone enlighten me ? | 19:23 |
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| sriram | devstack - openstack in a box | 19:23 |
| sriram | malini: ^ | 19:23 |
| tonytan4ever | K | 19:23 |
| malini | tonytan4ever: devstack is running all the openstack services in a single server. it is meant to aid development | 19:23 |
| sriram | she has worked with it extensively for zaqar | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | bascially you run it and can install any openstack parts | 19:23 |
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| tonytan4ever | K | 19:24 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok anything else? | 19:24 |
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| malini | For example if you integrate with other OS components & want to see how ur change would function , without having to create another rackspace clod - devstack is the way to go | 19:24 |
| malini | amitgandhinz ended it before I finished typing | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | =P | 19:25 |
| tonytan4ever | Ok. Kind make sense. | 19:25 |
| amitgandhinz | you type too slow | 19:25 |
| malini | :( | 19:25 |
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| sriram | we should just copy paste from pre-listed dialogues :P | 19:26 |
| * sriram extremely fast typing speed lol | 19:26 | |
| malini | or we shud just use a hangout | 19:26 |
| malini | I can talk fast ;) | 19:26 |
| malini | stop the meeting amitgandhinz - we are way off track | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | ok i need to jump into another meeting (somehow i got triple booked in this slot) | 19:27 |
| tonytan4ever | See ya. | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | ok this meeting is done | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 19:27:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-26-19.00.html | 19:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-26-19.00.txt | 19:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-03-26-19.00.log.html | 19:28 |
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