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| dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
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| dhellmann | our agenda: | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 16:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| ihrachyshka | o/ | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for jd__, dims, bnemec, flaper87, harlowja, viktors, rpodolyaka, zzzeek, sileht, kgiusti, dansmith | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for redrobot, jungleboyj, zhiyan, therve, amotoki, GheRivero, bknudson, ihrachyshka, jogo, dougwig, sreshetnyak, amrith | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | yo | 16:00 |
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| dims | o/ | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| redrobot | o/ | 16:00 |
| jd__ | o/ | 16:00 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 16:00 |
| bnemec | o/ | 16:00 |
| dims | fyi amrith is travelling and won't make it today | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | thanks for the heads-up | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-04-06-16.02.html | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:01 | |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann replace stable teams with review teams on oslo libs | 16:01 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | I need to carry that one over. I'll try to do it this week. | 16:01 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | the first item listed in the action list last week was made redundant by the second, so I think that's it | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | quickest meeting ever | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:01 |
| * dhellmann is hungry and it's lunchtime | 16:02 | |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | #topic need someone to chair the meeting next week | 16:02 |
| * dims too | 16:02 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to "need someone to chair the meeting next week (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | both dims and I will be out next week, so we need a volunteer to chair the meeting | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | i can do it if needed and nobody else volunteers :) | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | thanks, harlowja_at_home | 16:02 |
| * harlowja_at_home will put my meeting hat on, lol | 16:02 | |
| dims | thanks harlowja_at_home | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | you've done it before, so I think you know how to use the bot and stuff, but let me know if you have any questions | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, ya, just might be a little rusty :-P | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | are u 2 going on vacation together? | 16:04 |
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| harlowja_at_home | :-/ | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: my "secret" is to set up a text file with all the commands in advance :-) | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:04 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: haha. | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: heh, not this time | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh, cool, maybe next time then | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: we're meeting up in vancouver in a couple of weeks, you should join us! | 16:05 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, think i just might :-P | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | one big family vacation, ha | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ with sometimes to much family :-P | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | heh | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | moving on... | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:06 | |
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| dhellmann | how are the RCs looking? I saw a few, but I don't think I saw an announcement that they were all done | 16:06 |
| bknudson | I sent a note to the mailing list about the issues I saw in the keystoneclient stable branch: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061288.html | 16:07 |
| bknudson | which might be interesting to others trying to figure out why their stable branches don't work. | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: ok, thanks, I'll give that a look | 16:08 |
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| dhellmann | do any other liaisons have anything to report? | 16:09 |
| bknudson | nothing from keystone | 16:09 |
| bnemec | Nope | 16:09 |
| ihrachyshka | nothing from neutron | 16:09 |
| dims | nothing from nova | 16:09 |
| stevemar | o/ | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | nothing from Cinder | 16:09 |
| bknudson | maybe developers are focusing on summit work. | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | ihrachyshka, i see there is alot of unknowns about tooz in neutron, hopefully can clear that up | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168921/ had me a little worried there (hopefully can correct that) | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ seeing as that review wanted to create something like tooz :-P | 16:10 |
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| dhellmann | ok, it sounds like things are going pretty well | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: thanks for highlighting that review | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | #topic Releases for this week | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for this week (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:11 | |
| dhellmann | I released tooz earlier today | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | #info tooz 0.13.2 is a kilo bug-fix release | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | #info tooz 0.14.0 is a liberty feature release | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | oslo.policy needs a kilo bug-fix release | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann release oslo.policy stable/kilo | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | jd__ asked for an oslo.db release from master | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann release oslo.db master | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | are there any other releases needed/wanted? | 16:11 |
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| dims | dhellmann: did the zmq go out? oslo.messaing | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | dims: I'll have to check, I don't think I did that one | 16:12 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, we may want to have oslo.utils with leap second issue fixed before June... :) | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | dims: sileht may have, though? | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | leap second, arg, lol | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: is that patch landed in the stable branch? | 16:12 |
| ihrachyshka | not yet, I just cherry-picked it there | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: link? | 16:13 |
| ihrachyshka | https://review.openstack.org/172964 | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: ok, thanks | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | that's a good segue into... | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ongoing work & Review priorities (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:14 | |
| dhellmann | #link leap second fix https://review.openstack.org/172964 | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | We have a bunch of specs up for review, and we should start the discussion on those before the summit | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack%2Foslo-specs+is:open,n,z | 16:15 |
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| dhellmann | in fact, unless we have critical bugs, I think that's our biggest priority right now | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | is there anything else we should be considering as the same or higher priority? | 16:15 |
| dims | sounds right dhellmann | 16:16 |
| bnemec | +1 | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems fair to me | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | ok, so let's try to identify any specs we think we can approve before the summit and review them | 16:16 |
| dims | dhellmann: some on that list like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167737/ seems ready to merge | 16:16 |
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| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169944/ was one that i'm still trying to think about what should be done there, comments welcome, it appears windows support is somewhat needed for whatever the replacement is :-/ | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ windows, eck | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | dims: ok, I'll go ahead and do that now | 16:17 |
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| dhellmann | this oslotest proposal seems like it shouldn't be controversial: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158788/ | 16:18 |
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| dims | +2 dhellmann | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | we need to decide what to do with fileutils for https://review.openstack.org/170685, and I'd like to have more input on that | 16:18 |
| * bnemec apparently failed to re-review that one | 16:18 | |
| dhellmann | the proposal to write examples for oslo.messaging strikes me as something we shouldn't require a spec for: https://review.openstack.org/140318 | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | +2 | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | as ye olde nike said 'just do it' | 16:19 |
| dims | dhellmann: agree, no need for spec on that one | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | it would be good to have more input on the logging changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164851/ | 16:19 |
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| dhellmann | ditto for this general testing policy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158787/ | 16:20 |
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| dhellmann | I think the work on msgpack is done, isn't it jd__ ? https://review.openstack.org/151300 | 16:20 |
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| dhellmann | we have the general feature freeze policy spec, and I think we followed that already: https://review.openstack.org/153642 | 16:21 |
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| jd__ | dhellmann: I don't think it's implemented yet | 16:21 |
| jd__ | dhellmann: this is about oslo.messaging not oslo.serialization | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | jd__: oh, I thought I saw a patch somewhere with the new serializer | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | ah, maybe that's why I was confused | 16:21 |
| jd__ | yeah I think so :) | 16:21 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: The only thing the feature freeze spec might need is a mention that once stable branches are cut then master is open again. | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | there's a zmq spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171131/ that could use some attention | 16:22 |
| bnemec | That isn't really called out right now. | 16:22 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: I'd be OK with making an edit patch to it separately, and fast-approving that | 16:22 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Yeah, that would be fine with me. | 16:23 |
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| dhellmann | ok, that seems like a good list of things we might be able to either approve or ask detailed questions on by next week | 16:23 |
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| dhellmann | shall we make it a goal to review those over the course of the week, and try to merge them early next week? | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | say, if there are no objections to those by next tuesday, I'll approve them? | 16:24 |
| bnemec | +1 from me | 16:24 |
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| dims | +1 dhellmann | 16:25 |
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| dhellmann | oh, dims, you'll be ptl next week, but since you'll be out shall I push the workflow+1 button? | 16:26 |
| dims | dhellmann: thanks, yes, please | 16:27 |
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| * dhellmann notes dims chose his first week as ptl for a vacation | 16:27 | |
| harlowja_at_home | dear leader | 16:27 |
| bnemec | dims: Excellent delegation skills! :-D | 16:27 |
| dims | haha | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | u guys should pass a baton or something | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 16:27 |
| dims | we are all in this together :) | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | dims: indeed | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: I like that! | 16:28 |
| bnemec | Cross-project summit session: PTL relay | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:28 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: haha | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | i can bring a baton i bought but never used for work (for sprinting...) | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | *code sprinting (not real sprinting) | 16:29 |
| * bnemec is actually coaching track this spring | 16:29 | |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: as long as we don't have to jog around the room... | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:29 |
| bnemec | 25 pushups for anyone who drops a baton | 16:29 |
| dims | y getting old for that :) | 16:29 |
| dims | bnemec: i won't last that long | 16:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | maybe should bring it so dims can beat (and/or tap) people with it when they get rambunctious at the summit, lol | 16:30 |
| dims | :) | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: what are these "push ups" of which you speak? | 16:30 |
| bnemec | Heh | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: the Oslo Clue Bat | 16:30 |
| dims | it's like pull requests dhellmann | 16:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | #action harlowja_at_home bring baton to canada | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | ok, we're at the 30 min mark or so, and that's the end of the formal agenda for this week | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:31 |
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| dhellmann | #undo | 16:31 |
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| dhellmann | #action dhellmann merge approved specs mentioned above next tuesday | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:32 |
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| bknudson | congrats to dims | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | #action harlowja_at_home figure out what code needs to change to fix '<ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x98d5490>' using repr() | 16:32 |
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| dhellmann | yes, congratulations and *thank you* to dims for stepping up to be our ptl for liberty | 16:32 |
| bnemec | +1 | 16:32 |
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| dims | thanks everyone! | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | there should also be an oslo ptl ring that u guys transfer | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | not as evil as the one ring, but a ring | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | congrats dims ! | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: or a whiskey bottle, but by now it would be empty | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:33 |
| ihrachyshka | apparently the ring is not very powerful since Doug passed it himself | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | ihrachyshka: hmm, markmc never gave me any ring. maybe I should ask about that. | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | maybe he still has it :-/ | 16:34 |
| bknudson | scepter and crown. | 16:34 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Nor the crate of whiskey either, apparently ;-) | 16:34 |
| ihrachyshka | 3 ptl cycles - for NOTHING?? | 16:34 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: hey, right! :-) | 16:34 |
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| harlowja_at_home | is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-highlights going to filled in anymore? | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ fill it in folks :-P | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: oh, good point, thanks | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 16:36 |
| dims | thanks for the reminder harlowja_at_home | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | were we going to get an oslo blog to? | 16:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | whatever happened to that idea | 16:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | or maybe that was in a dream, idk | 16:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: yeah, I didn't have time to do it while at pycon last week but I'm going to look at it between now and the summit | 16:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool, i wasn't dreaming then | 16:38 |
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| dhellmann | nope, I just overestimated the length of my flight :-) | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | and the need to sleep on the way home | 16:38 |
| bknudson | how was pycon? | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, cool, one of the questions on the lowlights that i put is 'pylockfile' | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | what to do about that... | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | it seems we've gone back and forth on that - from wanting to move oslo.concurrency code into it, to wanting to abandon it entirely | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya | 16:39 |
| bnemec | Why are we abandoning it again? | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tooz/developers.html#file exists to sooo (and IPC version as well..) | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | I'm open to either, but it seems a shame to have gone through the trouble of adopting it to abandon it right away | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | agreed | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | something to think about.. | 16:40 |
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| dhellmann | jd__, thoughts? | 16:40 |
| bnemec | Can tooz be used standalone as a library? | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | bnemec, yes | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | if u are willing to accept the limitations | 16:40 |
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| harlowja_at_home | see matrix @ http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tooz/compatibility.html | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | matrix/tables | 16:41 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ might be a good design session or something, idk | 16:41 |
| harlowja_at_home | jd__, how about that ;) | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: I think we're going to run out of space, but maybe a hallway or lunch discussion - we should definitely figure it out, one way or another | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:42 |
| bnemec | I have to admit I probably haven't been in a huge hurry to look at refactoring o.c to use a separate library because every time we make changes like that something breaks horribly. | 16:42 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: right. I think the idea proposed was to move one or two functions wholesale, but that might cause it to be brittle | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | bnemec, understood, it'd be nice to have a long-term-plan though (even if it doesn't happen in the short-term) | 16:43 |
| bnemec | We're way past brittle at this point. ;-) | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | heh | 16:43 |
| harlowja_at_home | refactoring these things is painful (by the shear nature of how many people touch it) | 16:43 |
| bnemec | But agreed it would be nice to get rid of the duplication between all of these things. | 16:43 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ but it will always be painful... | 16:43 |
| harlowja_at_home | *accept da pain, ha | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | maybe someone can take on the task of looking for feature duplication within our code next cycle? | 16:44 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems like a good idea | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | we should also be thinking about finding more common code to put through incubation/librarification | 16:44 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ^ also doing it with the least pain possible... | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | that might need to wait for M, though, since we have some graduations to finish | 16:44 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: ++ | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | ok, I feel like we're winding up so let's call the meeting done for today and spend the remaining 15 minutes looking at some of those specs mentioned earlier | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | thanks, everyone! | 16:45 |
| harlowja_at_home | np, lata | 16:46 |
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| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 16:46:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
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| reed | #startmeeting community | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 17:03:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is reed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'community' | 17:03 |
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| reed | this will be a short meeting :) | 17:03 |
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| reed | just starting it to add notes received offline from mrmartin | 17:03 |
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| reed | #info askbot is now fully in infra control, there is some fine tuning still needed but things are going fine | 17:04 |
| reed | #info mrmartin and Evgeny have started discussing the upgrade processes | 17:05 |
| reed | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/askbot-integration | 17:05 |
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| reed | #info mrmartin has proposed a patch to infra for an askbot staging server https://review.openstack.org/172880 | 17:06 |
| reed | #link https://review.openstack.org/172880 | 17:06 |
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| reed | #info mrmartin added request for backup scripts to ask.o.o site | 17:07 |
| reed | #link https://review.openstack.org/169260 | 17:07 |
| reed | #topic Activity Board reports | 17:07 |
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| reed | #info the 2015 Q1 report is public now | 17:07 |
| reed | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/activity-board/tree/reports/2015-q1 | 17:08 |
| reed | #info full announcement coming this week | 17:08 |
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| catherineD2 | o/ | 19:01 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD2 | Hi Rocky | 19:01 |
| Rockyg | Hey Catherine! | 19:01 |
| Rockyg | Coffee? | 19:01 |
| catherineD2 | sure .. | 19:02 |
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| vladiskuz|2 | o/ | 19:02 |
| catherineD2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 19:02:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:02 |
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| catherineD2 | David is having an onboarding meeting for his new job at this time ... so he won't be able to attend this meeting | 19:02 |
| Rockyg | Yay! where'es he working? | 19:02 |
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| catherineD2 | some startup forget the name ... | 19:03 |
| catherineD2 | Today's agenda: 1) design session planning 2) Location to host refstack server 3) plan for upgrading refstack-client to latest tempest 4) Latest Refstack UI 5) Use case for signed request 6) open discussion | 19:03 |
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| catherineD2 | #topic design session planning | 19:04 |
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| catherineD2 | Refstack design session #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-qa-vancouver-design-session | 19:04 |
| catherineD2 | I see no entry on the link ... | 19:05 |
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| sslypushenko__ | No much info) | 19:05 |
| catherineD2 | The goal for this link is for us to log in the topic that we want for design session ... | 19:06 |
| Rockyg | We at least need to put down what needs to be fixed in QA for Interop testing on outside clouds to work | 19:06 |
| Rockyg | So, the SSL stuff? | 19:06 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 19:07 |
| Rockyg | Maybe segmenting the tempest requirements.txt to be 1)default 2)discoverable 3)ask? | 19:07 |
| catherineD2 | Rockyg: SSL stuff is the signed request (topic 5 in today's meeting) or something else? | 19:08 |
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| Rockyg | Sorry, the remote sessions required in some of the tests | 19:09 |
| catherineD2 | ic ... | 19:09 |
| Rockyg | The stuff that breaks a bunch that caused them to be flagged | 19:09 |
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| Rockyg | Another thing to discuss with Qa is some standards on API tests so that once a bunch of tests move to projects, we don't have a zillion different ways we have to setup to run them | 19:10 |
| catherineD2 | ic ssh ... that have several patches going on now ...I think that should be from DefCore point of view ? | 19:10 |
| Rockyg | Also functional tests, I would think | 19:11 |
| Rockyg | hogepodge knows most about them. | 19:11 |
| Rockyg | He can give us a status on patches and whether we need to talk more in Vancouver | 19:11 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: do we need to have a design session for the test flagged for ssh reasion? More important, what are the topics we want to bring up ? | 19:13 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: Right now the qa team is soliciting design session topics | 19:13 |
| hogepodge | We have unti lthe 30th to request items we want to discuss. | 19:14 |
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| hogepodge | So ssh tests would be appropriate. | 19:14 |
| catherineD2 | ic so there is still time | 19:14 |
| hogepodge | I need to dig up the link. It's probably in the qa meeting from last week. The know it's a problem, and want to refactor in the next cycle. | 19:14 |
| hogepodge | (as with all things network) | 19:15 |
| catherineD2 | do we need to discuss about the topic today or we again let everyone have a chance to enter their topic in the link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-qa-vancouver-design-session | 19:15 |
| hogepodge | I would strongly suggest that the refstack team start directly speaking to the openstack-qa team, though. They really like to have the 1:1 interaction. | 19:15 |
| catherineD2 | and revisit next week? | 19:15 |
| Rockyg | hogepodge: +1 | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD2 +! | 19:16 |
| catherineD2 | OK everyone please enter the topics that you think we should bringup for design session in the link ... thx | 19:17 |
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| catherineD2 | #agreed revisit topics for design session next week | 19:18 |
| catherineD2 | #action Refstack team member to enter suggested topics for design session in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-qa-vancouver-design-session | 19:19 |
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| catherineD2 | alright moving onto the next topic | 19:19 |
| catherineD2 | #topic Location to host refstack server | 19:19 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Any ideas? | 19:20 |
| catherineD2 | First question, do we want to host a public Refstack server .. | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | Good news. | 19:20 |
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| Rockyg | waiting to hear! | 19:21 |
| hogepodge | This morning I got an e-mail. Turns out that Piston transferred refstack.org to the Foundation this morning. | 19:21 |
| Rockyg | Yay! | 19:21 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: wow great !!! | 19:22 |
| catherineD2 | so we have our domain back to us ... | 19:22 |
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| hogepodge | I don't know what that means for me (I don't have access to manage items in our domain accounts), but I can work directly with foundation staff to get the domain to point to an address | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko__ | Wow! | 19:22 |
| catherineD2 | I take that we would like to host a public Refstack server then .. so we need to decide on where to host it ... | 19:23 |
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| catherineD2 | please take a look at http://pvaneck.github.io/#/ that is how Refstack website look like for now ... | 19:24 |
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| catherineD2 | The "Community Results" tab will host data ... it can be sample data at summit time .. | 19:25 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I tried to talk with my manager about idea to host public Refstack server on Mirantis Openstack Express by still haven't got any answer | 19:25 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: thanks! | 19:26 |
| catherineD2 | also I think clee also mention to host at DreamHost ... | 19:26 |
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| catherineD2 | hogepodge: will the foundation interest in hosting it ? | 19:27 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: I have no idea. It's outside of my scope of expertise. | 19:27 |
| hogepodge | I think the best place to ask is in infra | 19:27 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: Would you be able to contact infra for us? | 19:28 |
| mtreinish | why not just push patches to have it run in infra? | 19:28 |
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| Rockyg | I can get onto infra after the meeting and talk to them | 19:28 |
| Rockyg | A VM is the way to go. | 19:29 |
| catherineD2 | mtreinish: thx for the suggestion .. We will look into that | 19:29 |
| catherineD2 | Rockyg: thx ... | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | We'd need to essentially generate a contract doc that is everything we would provide and from where and what what they would provide. Essentially, the BOM | 19:30 |
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| catherineD2 | #action Rockyg: will contact infra team... Refstack team investigating the possibility to push a patch to host Refstack server at infra | 19:30 |
| catherineD2 | moving to the next topic .. | 19:31 |
| catherineD2 | #topic plan for upgrading refstack-client to latest tempest | 19:31 |
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| catherineD2 | currently refstack-client is still using tag-3 | 19:32 |
| catherineD2 | Reviewing last week's IRC log, I am still not clear on what we have decided. I believe we decide on not waiting for tag-4. We know that refstack should be in sync with DefCore on the tempest version that they used to create the must pass list. | 19:33 |
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| Rockyg | so, I think most, if not all the projects have cut an RC-1, which means branching has occured on those projects. I would suggest making sure all the defcore projects have achieved RC-1 then grabbing the SHA from tempest after the last one branched | 19:34 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: Rockyg: were in a DefCore capability meeting last week ... I think DefCore decide to ping on a certain tempest ... but I do not know which one | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko__ | We can use commit closest to date of approvement for new capabiliteis | 19:34 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: just something recent, as of around now | 19:35 |
| hogepodge | later than the network fixes | 19:35 |
| catherineD2 | I think DefCore should decide on a SHA and then Refstack will follow .. | 19:35 |
| hogepodge | and the idempotent_id tag | 19:35 |
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| Rockyg | Defcore meets again on Wednesday, but maybe we should just as QA to give us one they know is good? | 19:36 |
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| catherineD2 | mtreinish: your thoughts? | 19:36 |
| Rockyg | Then, if QA says it's good, and we run some tests, we can tell defcore and they can just ok it. | 19:36 |
| catherineD2 | Rockyg: +1 | 19:37 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: The important thing is DefCore and Refstrack should be in sync .. | 19:38 |
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| Rockyg | catherine:D2: ++ | 19:38 |
| mtreinish | catherineD2: we continuously deploy tempest so anything should be fine to use | 19:38 |
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| Rockyg | mtreinish: any important fixes coming up, or is it pretty stable right now? | 19:39 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: we try to fast track important fixes as they come up | 19:39 |
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| mtreinish | Rockyg: I'm not sure what you're looking for on a specific sha1 though? | 19:40 |
| Rockyg | mtreinish, hogpodge: so I'm thinking there is about to be a bunch of libraries bounded in requirements.txt. Maybe we should wait for a good run or two after that? | 19:41 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: we're shooting for 2015.05 anyway, so it's best just to set expectations for what's there right now. | 19:41 |
| Rockyg | mtreinish: lloking for a SHA1 that is known to be successful until we get to tag-4 for use. | 19:42 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: well we're in reqs freeze right now so the tempest requirements file won't change until that ends | 19:42 |
| Rockyg | mtreinish: kewl | 19:42 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: well on that criteria any of them will work, because we cd the tempest repo | 19:42 |
| catherineD2 | #agreed Refstack will pick a SHA , running tests to verify and then inform DefCore on the SHA that they should use | 19:42 |
| Rockyg | So, hogepodge, propose what the head SHA1 is, test and and we're there. | 19:42 |
| Rockyg | sound good, mtreinish? | 19:43 |
| hogepodge | 7c8fcc67 | 19:43 |
| mtreinish | sure | 19:43 |
| catherineD2 | #agreed Refstack will use 7c8fcc67 | 19:44 |
| sslypushenko__ | I can update ./setup_env script | 19:44 |
| catherineD2 | thx sslypushenko__: | 19:44 |
| Rockyg | catherineD2, you can use that SHA1 for your tests, too. Report that it works (or doesn't) to Defcore on Wednesday and get their blessing | 19:44 |
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| catherineD2 | #action catherineD2: will tests 7c8fcc67 and report test result on Wednesday DefCore meeting | 19:45 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: please push a patch ... | 19:46 |
| catherineD2 | ready for the next topic .. | 19:46 |
| catherineD2 | ? | 19:46 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD2 ok | 19:46 |
| catherineD2 | #topic Latest Refstack UI | 19:46 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Greate thx to Paul! | 19:47 |
| catherineD2 | Paul has worked on the UI for Refstack using AngularUI/AngularJS. Demo page at http://pvaneck.github.io/#/ Right the content in the "Home" and "About" tabs are from the Refstack readme file. Please review and update if needed. | 19:47 |
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| Rockyg | LGTM | 19:47 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: Rockyg: please review the content on the "Home" and "About" tab | 19:47 |
| vladiskuz|2 | I saw Paul's patch. Looks good, but what about unit test? | 19:48 |
| pvaneck | I should have some tests for it in a little bit | 19:48 |
| catherineD2 | Paul is working on the last tab to show data ... | 19:48 |
| Rockyg | And, yeah, content needs review, plus I think DefCore should review content. | 19:48 |
| catherineD2 | vladiskuz|2: thx for review and suggesting for tests ... | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | pvaneck Lets skip tests for first cycle | 19:48 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: hogepodge: could you ask DefCore to review | 19:49 |
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| Rockyg | catherineD2: yup | 19:49 |
| hogepodge | sure | 19:49 |
| catherineD2 | using Paul's demo link for now ... since we do not have a public server yet .. | 19:49 |
| catherineD2 | #link http://pvaneck.github.io/#/ | 19:50 |
| catherineD2 | #topic Use case for signed request | 19:50 |
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| catherineD2 | so sslypushenko__: vladiskuz|2: has been working on the signed request ....vladiskuz|2: will work on fetching result with key next ? | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think I will do this feature | 19:51 |
| catherineD2 | ic thx sslypushenko__: | 19:52 |
| sslypushenko__ | Vlad is working on UI login now | 19:52 |
| catherineD2 | right now we can upload data with and withou key ... | 19:52 |
| vladiskuz|2 | catherineD2: I still working on auth with openstackid. And Paul's patch more important for me now | 19:52 |
| catherineD2 | vladiskuz|2: ic ... | 19:52 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think that for now signed request will help users to revisit own test results... | 19:53 |
| catherineD2 | so we should try to merge Paul's as soon as possible ... | 19:53 |
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| vladiskuz|2 | But one important stuff is SSL, because openstackid works only with https | 19:53 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: would it be a better option if user get own results with cpid? | 19:53 |
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| sslypushenko__ | In future, I guess that upload signed results will be a single way to upload results | 19:54 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko__: that would make sense .. | 19:55 |
| catherineD2 | vladiskuz|2: with openstackid ... where are the user credential saved at ? | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko__ | Using a digital signature can be considered as a type on auth | 19:56 |
| catherineD2 | we only have 5 mins ... Let's discuss this in #refstack after this meeting ... | 19:56 |
| catherineD2 | #topic open discussion ... | 19:56 |
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| catherineD2 | anything any one want to bring up? | 19:57 |
| vladiskuz|2 | catherineD2: credential saved on openstackid server, but we can request some information from it. For example email | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD2 In refstack client we can't use openstackid for auth | 19:57 |
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| catherineD2 | Let me end the meeting here ... we will discuss the signed request topic in #refstack | 19:58 |
| Rockyg | Thanks! | 19:59 |
| catherineD2 | Thank you all! It has been very productive meetings lately!!! | 19:59 |
| catherineD2 | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 19:59:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-04-13-19.02.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-04-13-19.02.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-04-13-19.02.log.html | 19:59 |
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| igueths1 | o/ | 19:59 |
| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 19:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 19:59:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| chellygel | o/ | 20:00 |
| tkelsey | o/ | 20:00 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:00 |
| elmiko | yo/ | 20:00 |
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| redrobot | not a whole lot of people here yet... | 20:01 |
| redrobot | let's get started anyway | 20:01 |
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| redrobot | as usual the Agenda can be found here: | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-04-06-20.00.html | 20:02 |
| redrobot | so I totally dropped the ball and did not get to complete any of the action items I had last week | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to figure out why Castellan 0.1.0 tag did not get published to PyPI | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | #action redrobot to email dev list to get input on minor changes in the API | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | elmiko do you want to give an update on the Juno to Kilo migration you tested? | 20:03 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:03 |
| elmiko | sure thing | 20:03 |
| elmiko | so i ran the migration tests | 20:03 |
| elmiko | there were some issues regarding one of the statements | 20:04 |
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| elmiko | #link https://gist.github.com/elmiko/34c2f064c104d08a3e1f | 20:04 |
| elmiko | if anyone is curious | 20:04 |
| rm_work | ah o/ | 20:04 |
| elmiko | i tried to start with a stable juno install, then run the db-migrate with a master code base | 20:04 |
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| dave-mccowan | o/ | 20:05 |
| redrobot | elmiko I wonder if this is specific to Maria DB or if it would affect MySQL as well? | 20:05 |
| elmiko | i'm not sure if there is an error in the migration. i could really use if someone else could try too | 20:05 |
| elmiko | redrobot: that's a great question | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | I tried the migration from Juno -> Master on PostgreSQL and it seems to have worked without issues. | 20:06 |
| elmiko | i can do a setup with postgresql as well, if barbican supports that | 20:06 |
| elmiko | hmm, maybe it's just maria | 20:06 |
| elmiko | i'll put together a true mysql setup and run again | 20:06 |
| redrobot | elmiko you're awesome! thanks. | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #action elmiko to try Juno -> Kilo migration in MySQL | 20:06 |
| elmiko | np, glad to help =) | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I'm not sure that we support Maria DB, so if it works in MySQL we may be ok to cut RC1 | 20:07 |
| elmiko | k, maria is just the default for fedora | 20:07 |
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| redrobot | elmiko I see... I'll have to talk to xaeth (our Fedora packager) to ask what back end we'll be using in the official RPM | 20:08 |
| elmiko | good call | 20:09 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to talk to Greg Swift about the DB used in the official Fedora RPM | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:10 |
| redrobot | #topic Vancouver Design Summit | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061167.html | 20:11 |
| redrobot | The tentative slot allocation for Vancouver is up | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | We're scheduled for 3 fishbowls and 10 regular sessions | 20:12 |
| woodster_ | what we've done in the past is vote on the design summit wiki page which we want sessions for | 20:12 |
| woodster_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-L-design-sessions | 20:12 |
| redrobot | we've also got a half day on Friday | 20:13 |
| redrobot | thanks woodster_ | 20:13 |
| alee_ | o/ | 20:13 |
| redrobot | it would be good to figure out if we will indeed need 3 fishbowl sessions | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | as a reminder, Fishbowl means it's a session that is listed on the scheduled where wide community input is needed | 20:13 |
| woodster_ | the regular sessions are table discussion times then? | 20:14 |
| redrobot | woodster_ yes | 20:14 |
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| redrobot | which means we may end up with some time slots where we don't have a room :-\ | 20:15 |
| rm_work | that's why they invented hallways | 20:15 |
| redrobot | So, everyone please take a look at the etherpad that woodster_ linked. | 20:15 |
| woodster_ | rolling whiteboards? | 20:15 |
| redrobot | I'd like to know if we do need all 3 fishbowls soon | 20:15 |
| redrobot | It would be nice to give back fishbowls we may not need | 20:16 |
| redrobot | woodster_ who knows... | 20:17 |
| woodster_ | we could add "+1"s after topics we things are interested in? Does this need to be decided before next Monday, or could we tally votes then? | 20:17 |
| redrobot | woodster_ would be good to figure it out this week | 20:17 |
| redrobot | Yeah, please add +1s to topics you want to discuss in the summit | 20:18 |
| woodster_ | so vote by COB Wednesday maybe? | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ yep, that sounds like a plan | 20:18 |
| redrobot | also add (Fishbowl) to sessions you think may need wide community input | 20:19 |
| redrobot | and by "you" I mean all you wonderful Barbicaneers :) | 20:19 |
| redrobot | any questions/comments about Design Summit planning? | 20:20 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | #topic Additional Role for per-secret ACL | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | So woodster_ and I were working through some per-secret ACL use cases for one of our internal barbican customers, when we noticed that the current policy does not enforce a role in addition to ACL | 20:22 |
| redrobot | in other words, you don't need a Barbican role to access a secret after you've been added to the ACL | 20:22 |
| redrobot | which does work, but it does not allow for an easy way to turn off access to Barbican for a user | 20:23 |
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| woodster_ | so if a cloud admin wishes to disallow a user from accessing a Barbican secret, they have to disable their user entirely for all services I believe | 20:23 |
| redrobot | one suggestion was to add a new role that is checked in addition to the ACL list | 20:23 |
| arunkant | cannot we remove that user from ACL list to remove access ? | 20:24 |
| woodster_ | rm_work, I recall you mentioning a 'read-only-reader' sort of role | 20:24 |
| rm_work | yeah, I thought that was the decision | 20:24 |
| rm_work | previously | 20:24 |
| redrobot | another option was to reuse the "audit" role | 20:24 |
| redrobot | so, require "audit" role + ACL | 20:24 |
| rm_work | redrobot: in general i am against role-reuse | 20:24 |
| rm_work | roles in this sense need to be the most fine-grained units possible | 20:25 |
| woodster_ | arunkant, you could try to do that, but if the removal from barbican access is only temporary, then adding the user back to the original secrets would be painful | 20:25 |
| rm_work | tacking things on to other things is sketchy for security <_< | 20:25 |
| redrobot | arunkant yes, it's possible, but if you had a user that has ACL on 1000 secrets, you would have to remove them from all 1000 secrets individually. Adding a role would allow for a single switch that can be turned off | 20:25 |
| redrobot | rm_work why? | 20:25 |
| redrobot | rm_work why are you opposed to saying that ACL requires Audit role? | 20:25 |
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| rm_work | redrobot: because why not make a "read_other" role? | 20:26 |
| rm_work | why tack on additional unrelated functionality to a role designed for *auditing*? | 20:26 |
| elmiko | +1, that makes sense to me | 20:26 |
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| rm_work | Just saying, I have seen this go very badly in the past (when I worked specifically doing role-based security at a previous employer) | 20:26 |
| arunkant | redrobot, role is assigned per project. so if 1000 secrets are across different projects..so you have to remove assignments from all those projects | 20:27 |
| redrobot | rm_work the name isn't really relevant, I think. We would be adding a new role with the same permissions as Audit | 20:27 |
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| rm_work | redrobot: as long as it's a NEW role | 20:27 |
| rm_work | that's what i'm saying :P | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | I've been viewing things as roles first, then ACL to narrow down access | 20:27 |
| rm_work | name doesn't matter, just don't tie it to an existing role <_< | 20:27 |
| rm_work | which was originally intended for a different purpose | 20:27 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: +1 | 20:28 |
| redrobot | I should also point out that this only affects the default policy we include with barbican | 20:28 |
| redrobot | deployers are free do to whatever they please | 20:28 |
| rm_work | true, i have echoed that before as well | 20:28 |
| woodster_ | arunkant, that's true, but I think it would be more typical to have a project per use case, such as provisioning servers and so forth | 20:28 |
| rm_work | this is all just deployer policy | 20:28 |
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| arunkant | woodster_, cannot we just add API to remove per project ACLs ? | 20:29 |
| rm_work | and I assumed we'd be checking "read_other" or "audit" or *whatever* it's called, in related to the reading-user's project, so there would only need to be one instance, not many <-- arunkant | 20:29 |
| redrobot | arunkant why add a new API call, when we can just add a role in policy and not have to change the code? | 20:29 |
| rm_work | so if i'm user1234, then read_other:user1234 && whitelisted | 20:29 |
| rm_work | arunkant: and that is really messy for things like *suspensions* | 20:30 |
| rm_work | where it might be very temporary | 20:30 |
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| arunkant | woodster_, the reason is..asking for a role in given project..means somebody has to do that assignment first..in that case just assign the needed role (instead of dummy one)..so its kind of defeats the purpose of ACL | 20:31 |
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| rm_work | arunkant: again, I assume it's ONE role assignment, not per project but for the user's own project | 20:31 |
| woodster_ | arunkant, you are thinking that if a user is no longer able to access barbican, they should just be removed from ACL lists then? That requires knowledge of barbican API to disable that user though, whereas role revocation is something an admin can do without knowledge of barbican beyond its roles. | 20:32 |
| rm_work | so I have ONE "read_other" role assigned to me, for my own project -- which is checked when I try to read someone else's secret that I'm whitelisted for | 20:32 |
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| rm_work | and that is granted by default to every barbican user | 20:32 |
| rm_work | but could be removed manually | 20:32 |
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| woodster_ | arunkant, if you are concerned about clean up of ACLs when users are removed from identity, the keystone listener service could handle that | 20:33 |
| rm_work | (again, just talking about DEFAULT deployment -- it's always up to the provider) | 20:33 |
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| rm_work | I thought we had a good set of logic worked out for this in one of the specs? which indicated an additional role, as we're discussing now | 20:34 |
| redrobot | rm_work I'm coming around to having a new role... or maybe two? "secret_acl" and "container_acl" ? | 20:35 |
| arunkant | woodster_, clean up of ACLs is not my concern..its just a role assignment part..now every cloud user need to have a role assignment. | 20:35 |
| rm_work | redrobot: possibly -- it may or may not matter -- up to the deployer | 20:35 |
| rm_work | redrobot: in a simple configuration, just one would probably be fine (for a default install) | 20:35 |
| rm_work | I remember arguing against checking the existing "read" role, for similar reasons as above | 20:36 |
| rm_work | (not adding additional functionality to an existing role that wasn't originally intended) | 20:36 |
| rm_work | but we came to a consensus before than a new role would be ok, I swear | 20:36 |
| woodster_ | so I guess we'll have a 'default' out of the box policy config, and then the deployer guide could detail other options? | 20:36 |
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| redrobot | arunkant only if a deployer uses the default policy. Plus, you could configure your user provisioning system to add the role automatically, so I don't see it as a burden. | 20:37 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ +1 | 20:38 |
| elmiko | always +1 to better docs ;) | 20:38 |
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| redrobot | It seems most of us are in favor of adding a new role to the default policy | 20:39 |
| arunkant | redrobot: Yes. That should be okay. +1 | 20:39 |
| woodster_ | arunkant, my concern is more the more intimate knowledge cloud admins will need of barbican to disable users from barbican only...I'd favor a default policy that requires a roles, with a more relaxed one for as an alternate described in teh deployers guide | 20:39 |
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| redrobot | arunkant awesome, that settles it then | 20:40 |
| woodster_ | +1 redrobot. So to bike shed on the name of this new role.... | 20:40 |
| redrobot | #agreed we'll add a new role to be used in combination with per-secret policy in the default policy file | 20:40 |
| redrobot | hehe, bikeshedding indeed | 20:40 |
| redrobot | I propose the role: "barbican_acl" | 20:40 |
| woodster_ | 'read-granted' maybe? | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | I think barbican_acl describes that the access list is owned by barbican | 20:41 |
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| woodster_ | this role would be ignored unless the secret has ACL applied, correct? | 20:41 |
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| arunkant | are acls intended to be only for read? I thought for future..the plan was for other operations as well | 20:41 |
| redrobot | yep | 20:41 |
| redrobot | arunkant good point. I think "barbican_acl" would not need to change if we decide to add other operations down the line | 20:42 |
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| woodster_ | The other roles are nouns though...barbican-acler? :) | 20:43 |
| elmiko | hehe | 20:43 |
| redrobot | acl (access control list) is a noun | 20:43 |
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| * redrobot is tired of bikeshedding and wants to move on to more important things | 20:44 | |
| woodster_ | they are adjectives that is...he is a creator, etc... | 20:44 |
| redrobot | we can bikeshed the name on the CR | 20:45 |
| woodster_ | we can pick that up in the IRC channle | 20:45 |
| redrobot | #topic Kilo bugs | 20:45 |
| woodster_ | redrobot +1 | 20:45 |
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| redrobot | Thanks to dave-mccowan working over the weekend we now have a set of functional tests that exercise the workflows we discussed on Friday | 20:46 |
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| woodster_ | dave-mccowan: nice! | 20:46 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172401/ | 20:46 |
| redrobot | note that a lot of tests are currently skipped pending bugfixes | 20:47 |
| redrobot | so, we need some bug squashers in the next couple of days | 20:47 |
| redrobot | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican | 20:47 |
| redrobot | if you want to squash a bug, just assign it to yourself. | 20:47 |
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| redrobot | that way other contributors know that someone is working on it | 20:47 |
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| alee_ | redrobot, when is the deadline for rc1? | 20:48 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: redrobot are the bugs already reported? | 20:48 |
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| redrobot | alee_ preferably in the next few days | 20:48 |
| dave-mccowan | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-rsa-key-tests | 20:48 |
| rm_work | woodster_: BTW if the thing you were working on was a bugfix for RC1, you should not wait on me -- I doubt I'll get my devstack updates fixed and ready to go before Kilo is officially donezo | 20:49 |
| redrobot | alee_ most of the integrated projects have already released the RC | 20:49 |
| redrobot | jaosorior I think so, but dave-mccowan can correct me if I'm wrong | 20:49 |
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| alee_ | redrobot, right -- so can we have all the relevant bugs assigned by end of today or earliest early tommorow then | 20:49 |
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| redrobot | I'm currently working on validation fixes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/1441866 | 20:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441866 in Barbican "public type secret creation fails with 400" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Douglas Mendizábal (dougmendizabal) | 20:51 |
| dave-mccowan | redrobot, do you expect your fix to that will close any of the other open bugs? | 20:52 |
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| redrobot | dave-mccowan not sure yet... but hopefully yes. | 20:52 |
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| redrobot | alrighty... any last minute topics we want to cover? | 20:54 |
| arunkant | is there plan to add support for ACLs in barbican client? | 20:54 |
| redrobot | arunkant I think we would like the client to support everything that Barbican does | 20:54 |
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| redrobot | arunkant so if you want to implement ACLs in the client, please do so | 20:55 |
| woodster_ | ohhh, and docs too | 20:55 |
| arunkant | okay. will look into that. yes docs as well. | 20:55 |
| jaosorior | arunkant: thought that would be included in the ACL blueprint work. The client should support the API entirely | 20:55 |
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| jaosorior | Which reminds me. The client is not functional at the moment | 20:56 |
| rm_work | erk | 20:56 |
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| arunkant | yes..was just trying to find out if anybody else is working on barbican client side? | 20:57 |
| rm_work | usually I am able to help out with client stuff -- MIGHT be able to fit that in soon | 20:57 |
| rm_work | if no one else has time | 20:57 |
| dave-mccowan | one kilo bug question from this review: https://review.openstack.org/172819 | 20:57 |
| jaosorior | Anybody has time to check this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172958/ | 20:57 |
| dave-mccowan | should the server reject an order that includes meta['payload'] when that field is not used? | 20:58 |
| redrobot | eek 2 min left | 20:58 |
| jaosorior | That fixes the... non-functionalness | 20:58 |
| redrobot | dave-mccowan maybe? does including random meta['foo'] fail? | 20:58 |
| rm_work | yeah i reviewed that earlier, meant to +1 | 20:58 |
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| dave-mccowan | redrobot, no. post answers to review. | 20:59 |
| redrobot | dave-mccowan will do | 20:59 |
| redrobot | thanks for coming everyone | 20:59 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 20:59:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-04-13-19.59.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-04-13-19.59.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-04-13-19.59.log.html | 20:59 |
| elmiko | thanks redrobot ! | 20:59 |
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