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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 14:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:00 |
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| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| sgordon | #chair aveiga | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: aveiga sgordon | 14:00 |
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| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| * sgordon here | 14:00 | |
| aveiga | hello | 14:00 |
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| matrohon | hi | 14:00 |
| cloudon | hi | 14:00 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:02 |
| sgordon | some house keeping | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #topic vancouver summit | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | #info ops summit draft schedule @ http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-April/006730.html | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #info opnfv day @ https://openstacksummitmay2015vancouver.sched.org/event/dbd2188f366a132cd38bd3e3811cb338#.VSUdI-TofCE | 14:03 |
| sgordon | i still think we need more definition around goals for telco wg session in vancouver but let's come back to that in a minute | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #topic use cases | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/telcowg-usecases,n,z | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | #topic use cases - new | 14:05 |
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| aveiga | ah, we have more reviews to do now | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #info Adds Perimeta SBC use case as example of a fast data plane app - Calum Loudon - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176301/ | 14:05 |
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| sgordon | yes indeedy | 14:05 |
| cloudon | Yup, uploaded the SBC one earlier | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #topic use cases - existing | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | #info Add Service Chaining use case - Ralf Trezeciak - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169201/ | 14:06 |
| cloudon | slightly tweaked from the wiki version that's been up a while but has now been replaced with pointer to gerrit | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #info Adding BGP based IP VPNs attachment use case - Mathieu Rohon - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171680/ | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #info Add Virtual IMS Core use case - Calum Loudon - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158997/ | 14:06 |
| sgordon | #topic use cases - merged | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | #info Security Segregation (Placement Zones) - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/telcowg-usecases/tree/usecases/sec_segregation.rst | 14:07 |
| sgordon | so a few thoughts arise from the above | 14:07 |
| sgordon | 1) need more reviews | 14:07 |
| sgordon | 2) need to define how we expand core review team | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | 3) need to use security segregation as our guinea pig for defining process from here on out | 14:08 |
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| cloudon | why 3 in particular? | 14:09 |
| sgordon | it's actually merged | 14:10 |
| sgordon | if we can agree on one of the others quickly and merge it then that is an alternative | 14:10 |
| cloudon | ok, makes sense | 14:10 |
| aveiga | and since we need to start looking at how to get from merged usecase to bugs/specs, it will be the first | 14:10 |
| sgordon | basically what im talking about is taking the gap/requirements specified in that to the next level | 14:10 |
| sgordon | and yeah that | 14:10 |
| dneary | Hi | 14:11 |
| vkss | hi | 14:11 |
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| sgordon | so it seems to me we do have at least a couple of people doing reviews per (1) | 14:12 |
| sgordon | what i would like to define is how / when we give additional people +2 | 14:12 |
| sgordon | atm it's just myself, aveiga, mkoderer | 14:12 |
| adrian-hoban | I wasn't sure what the protocol is for that | 14:12 |
| sgordon | and i don't feel my +2 is particularly meaningful when it comes to the use cases as im more of a facilitator than someone who works in a CSP or NEP directly if that makes sense | 14:13 |
| sgordon | im more interested in the wider group being able to manage this | 14:13 |
| dneary | sgordon: re reviewers, I can try to get some OPNFV participants involved in reviewing use cases | 14:13 |
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| sgordon | dneary, please do - see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup/UseCases#Reviewing_Use_Cases for setup info | 14:14 |
| dneary | SFC closely matches a couple of the OPNFV projects (VNFFG and SFC) | 14:14 |
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| dneary | adrian-hoban, Protocol in general is that it requires unanimous agreement from existing +2 reviewers to add someone else | 14:15 |
| dneary | Per repo | 14:16 |
| aveiga | there are other qualifications as well, but I don't think we can enforce those in good faith | 14:16 |
| adrian-hoban | dneary: ok, thanks | 14:16 |
| aveiga | we're too new for that | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | yeah | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | let's go with that for now | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | since there are only 3 currently unanimous is a pretty low bar... | 14:18 |
| sgordon | #info adding core reviewers requires unanimous agreement from existing cores for now | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | so on wars to the (3) thing i listed which we touched on | 14:19 |
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| sgordon | how to take a use case from its current form to a design/implementation | 14:19 |
| sgordon | i believe in a previous week we discussed creating bugs under the telcowg LP project | 14:19 |
| sgordon | to track each identified gap | 14:19 |
| sgordon | and ownership thereof | 14:19 |
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| sgordon | (looking at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/telcowg-usecases/tree/usecases/sec_segregation.rst as i mull this over) | 14:20 |
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| sgordon | so in this example gaps are primarily around AZ awareness in non-Nova services | 14:21 |
| sgordon | (perhaps an oversimplification but what i am seeing) | 14:21 |
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| adrian-hoban | That, and policy oversight | 14:24 |
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| sgordon | indeed | 14:24 |
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| sgordon | so the question i have is who "owns" creating creating trackers for those items initially, use case drafter, wider group, etc. | 14:25 |
| sgordon | i think subsequently picking those up and taking action (design, implementation) is a little clearer - anyone who is willing to do the work ;) | 14:26 |
| aveiga | sgordon: perhaps the workflow approver? | 14:26 |
| adrian-hoban | Is there a step needed to get the use case in front of some core devs/PTLs, so that any future blueprint submissions have some context? | 14:26 |
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| aveiga | adrian-hoban: are you referring to after bugs get filed with out LP, moving them to the proper OpenStack project? | 14:27 |
| aveiga | our* | 14:27 |
| matrohon | so a bug should be filled in TecloWG LP project, and it should also affect other concerned project | 14:27 |
| adrian-hoban | I was thinking about blueprints more that bugs | 14:28 |
| adrian-hoban | I would have thought bugs can be submitted against any of the projects | 14:28 |
| aveiga | yeah | 14:28 |
| aveiga | we'll need to file specs with other projects for some of this | 14:28 |
| sgordon | the bugs against telcowg are more for tracking purposes of this group | 14:29 |
| sgordon | who owns liaising with the projects on gap X | 14:29 |
| matrohon | then the proposed code wil have the tag : implement-spec, and the tag partially-fix bug #Telco bug# | 14:29 |
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| adrian-hoban | The logical output from several of the use cases I reviewed are for new blueprints/specs to be submitted against the projects. I guess if these reference back to a Telco-wg approved (merged?) use case then that is sufficient context for the BP reviewers | 14:31 |
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| aveiga | it will likely be good enough to provide them with a reason why the feature is needed | 14:31 |
| sgordon | indeed | 14:33 |
| matrohon | What will be missing are implementation details for the project | 14:33 |
| aveiga | we'll probably need to work with folks in the projects to get that bit figured out | 14:33 |
| sgordon | aveiga, i am warming to your idea of whoever delivered +W ;) | 14:33 |
| aveiga | nobody said this would be easy | 14:33 |
| sgordon | yeah | 14:33 |
| matrohon | but this debate concluded that implementation details might not be provided in a spec (at least for neutron) : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061071.html | 14:34 |
| sgordon | im not sure anything was concluded there just yet | 14:35 |
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| sgordon | but the general feeling expressed was that the balance of what is being implemented versus how it is being implemented in neutron specs i a little off | 14:35 |
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| matrohon | amuller just sent a conclusion that he expects new ideas to come soon... | 14:36 |
| matrohon | I feel we're hitting the main issue here, most of us are able to provide some specs, but few have time to develop | 14:37 |
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| matrohon | and so to fill a detailled spec, that's exactly what amuller meant in his mail, IMO | 14:38 |
| sgordon | from my POV the aim of this group as originally conceived was to assist with advocating for telco/nfv related proposals being pushed into OpenStack - so both the case where somebody is signed up to do the work themselves and where they only have a proposal | 14:40 |
| sgordon | where the issue is, is that most projects aren't really interested in evaluating a spec unless there is someone signed up to do the work already | 14:40 |
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| sgordon | whether that is the original requester or someone else in the community | 14:41 |
| aveiga | +1, not having assignees in a spec usually gets it -1'd | 14:41 |
| matrohon | +1 | 14:41 |
| sgordon | (certainly there are some orgs that participate in this group that have developers who can pick up some of these, but that's not going to be possible for all of them) | 14:41 |
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| sgordon | and i think this is indeed where we have a key challenge | 14:42 |
| sgordon | identifying who has the scope/capacity to do such work with us | 14:42 |
| sgordon | scope/capacity/will | 14:42 |
| matrohon | however, If you look at the BGPVPN UC, it has been proposed since 4 releases to neutron, with developers behind.... | 14:43 |
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| sgordon | cases like that are really where the formation of the group came from | 14:43 |
| matrohon | I feel, the main issue where that the UC were not well understood by the community, hope tjis WG will help | 14:43 |
| sgordon | examples of proposals that existed, had developers behind them, but werent accepted because the use case wasnt understood | 14:43 |
| matrohon | that's the way I see it too, great | 14:43 |
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| sgordon | this is actually the ideal case for me, as it means that it's a messaging/communication problem | 14:44 |
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| sgordon | fixing for proposals where it's a resourcing problem is more challenging | 14:44 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:46 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to raise telcowg bugs based on security segregation proposal as an example | 14:47 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to draft a proposal for where we would go from there based on this discussion | 14:47 |
| sgordon | i think perhaps it's best if i put a draft framework together and we try poke holes in it | 14:47 |
| aveiga | that's probably a good idea | 14:48 |
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| sgordon | i would really like to have this nutted out pre-summit | 14:48 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:49 |
| sgordon | one last thing, cloudon i think i could do with some help w.r.t. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158997/ | 14:50 |
| cloudon | sure - what do you need? | 14:50 |
| sgordon | there are some questions there i don't think i can answer since it was originally your use case :) | 14:50 |
| sgordon | i have a draft patch with fixes for the stuff i replied done to | 14:51 |
| cloudon | ok - happy to look at that for you | 14:51 |
| sgordon | but there is a lot more info in your responses beyond that which im not sure how to integrate | 14:51 |
| cloudon | ok - want me to suggest mark-ups to you, or just re-submit the use case myself? | 14:51 |
| sgordon | i think it might be easier if you pull the current patch there is up there and re-submit yourself | 14:52 |
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| sgordon | the changes i have locally are only the minor ones (remove template space, blank lines, etc.) | 14:52 |
| sgordon | which are easily re-done | 14:52 |
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| cloudon | ok, will do | 14:53 |
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| sgordon | thanks for that, sorry | 14:53 |
| cloudon | no probs. After submitting the SBC one I am now gerrit-friendly :) | 14:54 |
| sgordon | cool :) | 14:54 |
| sgordon | ok | 14:54 |
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| sgordon | i am going to call it a wrap here | 14:54 |
| sgordon | thank you all for your time! | 14:54 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 14:54:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2 folks | 15:58 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:58 |
| shivharis1 | hi | 15:59 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis1: why is that 1 after your name? | 15:59 |
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| shivharis1 | first time sign in failed, shivharis could not be released so used shivharis1 | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | lets give few minutes for others to join in | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: are you here? | 16:01 |
| manishg | hi | 16:01 |
| * shivharis1 hi manish, doing well | 16:01 | |
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| manishg | Sukhdev: yep. done with the civic duty. took a couple of weeks but all set now! | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: I hope you did not hang him :-):-) | 16:02 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: we didn't. judge did! | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: ha ha - mr. politician :-):) | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | Ok - I guess lets get started | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 16:03:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_April_22.2C_2015 | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcement: | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I have couple | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | Kilo RC2 is due any day/time now | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | Barring any critical issues, it will become Kilo | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | So, congratulations to all who worked on it | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | If you did not know there is a sprint for Networking Guide documentation | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | Edgar is leading it and it is taking place tomorrow | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | If you few cycles and want to contribute to improve Neutron documentation - this is your chance | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-guide | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | This link give the details of where the help is needed | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | I have no other announcements? Anybody has any | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | other than manishg feeling proud to have fulfilled his civic duty | 16:07 |
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| * Sukhdev wating | 16:07 | |
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| manishg | I was wondering what you're going to say Sukhdev ! haha.. | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from previous week(s) | 16:08 |
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| * shivharis1 I am also proud of manishg | 16:09 | |
| Sukhdev | Since we have been discussing Task Flow for a while, I had an action item to discuss with mestery to include it in the mid-cycle sprint | 16:09 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: what's the link to etherpad ? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | I did have a chat with him and have included it on the agenda | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I will defer the details until the next topic | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | manishg: hang on a sec | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | Next item from manishg | 16:10 |
| shivharis1 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis1: thanks | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: I know you been away - have you made any progress on documenting the task flow discussions? | 16:11 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: was out and plan to document this in a couple of days. Have not finished it yet. Should I put that on etherpad or google doc? | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | manishg: I prefer google doc | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | anybody has objection? | 16:12 |
| shivharis1 | manishg: google doc is what i like, but take you pick | 16:12 |
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| manishg | Sukhdev: ok, will do. I can copy to another format if needed. comments are easier and more navigable in docs. | 16:13 |
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| manishg | Sukhdev: once done, should I mail the link to ML ? | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: We need to use this document to get folks on the same page - hence, they can develop the understanding of the code/ subject | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | manishg: If done before next meeting, yes - otherwise, we can discuss it here | 16:14 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: let me document it first and we can get started after that. | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: i want to use this document as basis for the sprint as well as discussions during the upcoming summit | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: lets discuss more in the next topic about this | 16:15 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: +1 | 16:15 |
| shivharis1 | if you are going to use it for the sprint, then etherpad would be better? | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: had an action item and I notice we have a link to the release notes | 16:16 |
| manishg | shivharis1: let's seal the design via docs. then sprint. | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: We can always have a link to the doc in etherpad | 16:16 |
| shivharis1 | i have updated the agenda with the answer to my action item | 16:16 |
| shivharis1 | docs, etherpad np | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: once we done discussing next topic, I will add sufficient details to etherpad - but, we will use doc for more specific details | 16:17 |
| shivharis1 | fine, np | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: Thanks | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | #topic:Neutron Mid-cycle sprint | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | If you do not know it is taking place in Fort Collins in June | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | Since we have been having discussions around Task Flow, the team felt it may be better to implement in the sprint | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | So, here is my thought on this - please see if you agree | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | we use document generated by manishg as the basis for our design discussions | 16:20 |
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| Sukhdev | We can use the PODs for in-person discussions during summit as well. | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | Once we have nailed down the design/details/agreements - we use the sprint to actually implement/code it | 16:20 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: agree. I'll try to capture the discussion points from here in the doc. | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | mestery is on board with this | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | Now, the question to the team - does it make sense? | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | I wish rkukura was here :-( | 16:21 |
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| sadasu | I think a better time to answer that question would be after seeing the document | 16:22 |
| shivharis1 | i see no problem in that approach, i only want to make sure the design is extendible | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1 sadasu : we can use next few meetings to iron out those details | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | Assuming, we iron out the design - will you be willing to volunteer to help out with the sprint? | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | BTW, we have all the time until summit to iron out the details | 16:25 |
| shivharis1 | Sukhdev: maybe i have to check with my mgmt | 16:25 |
| yamamoto | will it involve MD changes? | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: possibly | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto: but, should be all backward compatible | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | changes to MD only if you want to take advantage of this | 16:26 |
| shivharis1 | that is where the design is essential, and should be well thought out | 16:26 |
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| yamamoto | which MD will be "converted" to take advantage? | 16:27 |
| yamamoto | OVS? | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: I looked at the code which manishg has posted - it fits the bill - but, it is bit hard to understand without documentaiton | 16:27 |
| manishg | yamamoto: maybe. It will be compatible with existing one so not necessary. But for recovery, one may want to change. Else it will continue to work as-is. | 16:27 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: there's a lot of documentation in the code. But maybe more background in the doc. | 16:27 |
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| shivharis1 | manishg: yamamoto is asking which MD will be the reference (first) implementation | 16:28 |
| yamamoto | shivharis1: yes | 16:28 |
| sadasu_ | manishg: want to know about diff scenarios that are/aren't supported by the current diffs | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: correct - make sure start with high level view in the doc - so that people have a better grasp of what is going on and what is in it for them, and, why it would be beneficial for them to use this | 16:28 |
| manishg | yamamoto: not decided yet. waiting on getting agreement first. | 16:29 |
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| yamamoto | if it's ovs, does it involve agent-side changes? | 16:30 |
| manishg | sadasu_ : today if things fail, one just calls delete - and there is no granular control on how to 'undo' actions of MD. With the new changes, we will be able to do those. | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: initially, there will be dummy MD to demonstrate the use of this | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu_: that is exactly, this is for | 16:30 |
| manishg | yamamoto: no agent-side changes. but there are some open issues and depending on how those are addressed there maybe requirement to update the RPC i/f - in which case it will impact agent. | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | sadasu_: to deal with error handling and providing the sync mechanism between the front-end and back-end | 16:31 |
| yamamoto | Sukhdev: something like logger MD? | 16:31 |
| manishg | yamamoto: in general, all it does is make things async (and for the most part the scope is only the plugin). | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto: I am not familiar with that MD - sorry | 16:32 |
| yamamoto | Sukhdev: neutron.tests.unit.plugins.ml2.drivers.mechanism_logger:LoggerMechanismDriver | 16:33 |
| manishg | and to move things out of the db context. We do this by pre-commit/ post-commit today. But with these changes, we can return the REST call and not block on MD. | 16:33 |
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| manishg | for OVS, the MD is just the Agent MD so doesn't do much (from what I remember) | 16:33 |
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| yamamoto | manishg: ok, its main targets are MDs like ODL? | 16:34 |
| manishg | yamamoto: any MD that may block . | 16:34 |
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| manishg | the issues are captured in the comments here (in general comments) : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154333/ | 16:35 |
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| manishg | but it will be moved to a doc. | 16:35 |
| shivharis1 | the MDs that foot the bill are: | 16:36 |
| shivharis1 | 1. MDs with postcommit that can fail | 16:36 |
| shivharis1 | 2 MDs that can be restarted | 16:36 |
| shivharis1 | 3. MDs that have a backend that can go out of sync | 16:36 |
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| shivharis1 | 4. Anything else | 16:36 |
| shivharis1 | ? | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | shivharis1: thanks - I think you hit the nail on the head | 16:37 |
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| manishg | shivharis1: looks good. + MDs that may communicate with backend synchronously. | 16:37 |
| yamamoto | i've heard that midonet made their plugin task-based. its design might be worth to look. | 16:38 |
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| manishg | one of the goals is to return the REST call as soon as we can. | 16:38 |
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| manishg | yamamoto: thanks for the tip. Will look at it. | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | please do share any information you have on the subject - that will be helpful | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | #action: manishg to document task flow discussions and look into the midonet plugin | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this topic? | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | Please do discuss with your employer for the travel approvals, if you can help with this | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | I have attended every single past sprint and have found them to be very useful | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | This is where you get to sit with the core team up close and personal - in real design discussions, etc... | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | So, do think about it - | 16:42 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: I'll communicate via etherpad - not planning to join in Vancouver. | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:43 |
| * Sukhdev waiting | 16:43 | |
| Sukhdev | #topic: ML2 summit sessions | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev | mestery is finalizing these sessions - please be sure put your name next to the topic | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | this will help him | 16:44 |
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| shivharis1 | actually i did not see any names in the doc | 16:45 |
| shivharis1 | so i did not add my name | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: please add yours | 16:45 |
| shivharis1 | ok | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | every body has been asked to add their names | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: since you are representing the team, you can put ML2 team, along with your name | 16:46 |
| shivharis1 | k | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | this will let mestery know that we all want those sessions | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs | 16:47 |
| manishg | Sukhdev: so the higher the number of people, more likely is the session? | 16:47 |
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| shivharis1 | nothing much to report here, things are all go for kilo | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | manishg: well - I am not too sure - it is going to depend upon the time slots, topics, and priorities/need, etc... | 16:48 |
| shivharis1 | dont see any pressing issue/bugs for the kilo release | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: cool - thanks | 16:48 |
| shivharis1 | anyone have anything to add, or need any help in bug reviews? | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | anybody has any bug they want to discuss? | 16:48 |
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| yamamoto | nothing from me | 16:49 |
| shivharis1 | thats all from me for bugs | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | OK - lets move in that case | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:50 |
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| Sukhdev | Anybody has any thing to discuss? | 16:50 |
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| yamamoto | nothing from me | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | Any issues on Decomposition of MDs? | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | Looks like we are done | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks for attending folks, this was a good discussion | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | see you next week | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:51 |
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| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
| yamamoto | bye | 16:51 |
| shivharis1 | thanks Sukhdev, bye all | 16:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 16:51:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| sadasu_ | thanks | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-04-22-16.03.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-04-22-16.03.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2015/networking_ml2.2015-04-22-16.03.log.html | 16:51 |
| GLaupre | bye | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | shivharis1: need to chat with you | 16:52 |
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| shivharis1 | Sukhdev: ok | 16:52 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 17:00:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| mugsie | so, whos here? | 17:01 |
| timsim | o? | 17:01 |
| elarson | o/ | 17:01 |
| rjrjr | o/ | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic action items from last week | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | kiall to ask ttx to create a a rc2 | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | think this needs to be pushed | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #action kiall to ask ttx to create a a rc2 | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Kilo Release Status (kiall - recurring) | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bugs?field.tag=kilo-rc-potential | 17:03 |
| paul_glass | oh, o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | there is 2 outstanding bugs | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1445115 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445115 in Designate "Missing indexes on records table hurting performance" [High,Confirmed] | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1445123 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445123 in Designate "Under high load, DB Connection Pool get's exhausted" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kiall Mac Innes (kiall) | 17:03 |
| mugsie | does anyone know of any others? | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | (that should be put in rc2) | 17:03 |
| timsim | I don't think so. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | paul_glass: to late, meeting rooom door is locked :D | 17:04 |
| mugsie | too* room* | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | 1445115 is un assigned - anyone want to look at it? | 17:05 |
| timsim | Should be pretty simple, I can do that | 17:05 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:05 |
| mugsie | #action timsim to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1445115 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445115 in Designate "Missing indexes on records table hurting performance" [High,Confirmed] | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | any other questions about the Kilo release? | 17:06 |
| timsim | Looks like nope | 17:07 |
| mugsie | yeap | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug triage (timsim-recurring) | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | timsim: you have the floor | 17:07 |
| timsim | Alright, I think we have 4 this week, should be quick | 17:07 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1446980 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446980 in Designate "Duplicated index on table 'records' of pDNS" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to stanzgy (stanzgy) | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | l, med ? | 17:08 |
| timsim | Sounds good to me | 17:08 |
| mugsie | maybe worth a backport to Kilo? | 17:08 |
| rjrjr | +1 | 17:08 |
| timsim | Yeah | 17:08 |
| mugsie | timsim: can you add the kil-rc-potential tag? | 17:08 |
| mugsie | kilo* | 17:08 |
| timsim | Yep | 17:09 |
| timsim | Ah, already there | 17:09 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1446281 | 17:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446281 in Designate "designate dashboard detail screen does not support horizon juno" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Peterson (ericpeterson-l) | 17:09 |
| mugsie | humm | 17:09 |
| timsim | Wasn't this merge in L and backport to Juno? or no | 17:10 |
| mugsie | i think it was back port to Kilo - not sure if this code was in juno or not | 17:10 |
| timsim | Yeah I don't think the dashboard was there. | 17:10 |
| timsim | kilo-rc-potential maybe? | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | yup | 17:11 |
| timsim | Alright, I'll do med, l, kilo-rc-potential | 17:11 |
| mugsie | seen as our code is in ubuntu for Kilo :) | 17:11 |
| timsim | ? | 17:11 |
| mugsie | +1 | 17:11 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1446242 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446242 in Designate "Allow to use network label in nova_fixed format" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 17:12 |
| mugsie | low - l | 17:12 |
| rjrjr | +1 | 17:12 |
| timsim | Alright | 17:12 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1446387 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446387 in Designate "Support Host header in REST queries" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 17:12 |
| timsim | Honestly I'm not sure this is worth the work. | 17:13 |
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| timsim | Wishlist, L? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | if not invalid | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | I know Kiall has opinions on it | 17:14 |
| timsim | I can leave it as "New" so we can discuss it next week | 17:14 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:14 |
| timsim | That's it :) | 17:15 |
| Kiall | mugsie: I thought about it earlier today - that behaviour, if api_base_url == None seems sane.. if it's not none, use the config value | 17:15 |
| Kiall | (Still on another call) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | I have one item | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | Organising Talk / Workshop | 17:16 |
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| timsim | Yeah we should do that | 17:16 |
| mugsie | times - does any one have any particualr times that dont work? | 17:16 |
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| bharath | which week are we looking at ? | 17:17 |
| timsim | I won't be around next monday. Rest of this week is good though | 17:17 |
| mugsie | i.e. this time tomrrow or friday - do they suit? | 17:17 |
| mugsie | bharath: whenever suits people | 17:17 |
| timsim | Earlier is fine too, if you guys want. | 17:17 |
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| bharath | friday works for me | 17:17 |
| mugsie | 16:00 UTC ? | 17:17 |
| mugsie | bharath: what timezone are you in? | 17:18 |
| bharath | PST | 17:18 |
| mugsie | ah, right :) | 17:18 |
| bharath | rather PDT :) | 17:18 |
| mugsie | what is the earliest that is ok for you? | 17:18 |
| mugsie | we are limited by you and me and Kiall (we are UTC+1) | 17:19 |
| Kiall | I'm PST all next week ;) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | damn it | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | but you are going to be fairly busy next week, right? | 17:19 |
| Kiall | Honestly, No clue.. haven't got an agenda yet. | 17:20 |
| mugsie | ok, let just make it this time on friday | 17:20 |
| bharath | I can make it at 9 am PDT ... is that fine ? | 17:20 |
| mugsie | yeah, thats ok actually | 17:20 |
| bharath | ok cool | 17:20 |
| timsim | So that's 16:00 PST tomorrow or friday? | 17:21 |
| timsim | UTC | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | friday? | 17:21 |
| timsim | Works fo rme | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | ok, I will send out a Google Hangout invite in a few mins | 17:21 |
| bharath | okay | 17:21 |
| timsim | Cool, thx mugsie | 17:21 |
| mugsie | np | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | anyone else have any qustions / comments / etc? | 17:22 |
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| elarson | i'm going to be out (with a new baby!) next week | 17:22 |
| elarson | but, it would be great if folks took a look at the hook api review | 17:22 |
| mugsie | elarson: congrats | 17:23 |
| mugsie | will add it to my list :) | 17:23 |
| elarson | https://review.openstack.org/164748 | 17:23 |
| elarson | https://review.openstack.org/164749 <- spec | 17:23 |
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| mugsie | ok - anything else ? | 17:24 |
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| mugsie | going once ... | 17:24 |
| mugsie | twice ... | 17:25 |
| mugsie | ok - thanks everyone! | 17:25 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:25 |
| mugsie | see y'all in #openstack-dns | 17:25 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 17:25:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-04-22-17.00.html | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-04-22-17.00.txt | 17:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-04-22-17.00.log.html | 17:25 |
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| SlickNik | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 18:01:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | Giving folks a few minutes to trickle in. | 18:01 |
| atomic77 | o/ | 18:01 |
| sushilkm | Hello all | 18:01 |
| nshah | o/ | 18:02 |
| pmalik | (o_o)/ | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | Meeting agenda at: | 18:02 |
| SlickNik | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:02 |
| edmondk | o/ | 18:02 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:03 |
| SlickNik | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:03 |
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| SlickNik | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:04 |
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| vkmc | o/ | 18:05 |
| edmondk | almost double the amount of reviews compared to two weeks ago | 18:05 |
| mvandijk | \0/ | 18:05 |
| SlickNik | Yeah — doing pretty well on momentum. | 18:06 |
| SlickNik | Lots more reviews happening :) | 18:06 |
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| SlickNik | And across the board, not just core — which is good to see. | 18:07 |
| sushilkm | yeah thats awesome, i first thought if it was 2 weeks ;) | 18:07 |
| georgelorch | o/ | 18:07 |
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| edmondk | cores also went from 33 to 70 | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | slicknik - why did the "**" disappear from cores? | 18:07 |
| edmondk | to 77 I mean | 18:07 |
| dougshelley66 | seems to have stopped after March 11th | 18:08 |
| SlickNik | yeah, awesome — keep up the good work all around! | 18:08 |
| mvandijk | new changes : changes merged+abandoned is still ~ 2:1 though | 18:08 |
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| SlickNik | dougshelley66: I've been cleaning that up, I can leave that in there if folks find it interesting. | 18:09 |
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| dougshelley66 | SlickNik, no worries - just wondered why that changed | 18:09 |
| SlickNik | dougshelley66: I missed doing that week of March 11. | 18:10 |
| SlickNik | mvandijk: good point, but given that development for liberty just opened - that might not necessarily be a bad thing. | 18:11 |
| SlickNik | Okay — let's move on. | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | #topic Liberty Design Summit sessions | 18:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty Design Summit sessions (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:12 | |
| peterstac | As long as the 'merged' number doesn't dip too much, we're doing ok ;) | 18:12 |
| SlickNik | So this is _the_ week where I need input from folks as to what summit sessions they would want to drive / participate in for the design summit. | 18:13 |
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| SlickNik | I've started adding a few sessions that I think will be important / interesting at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-liberty-proposed-sessions | 18:14 |
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| SlickNik | But I need others to step up with suggestions and options too. | 18:14 |
| edmondk | was going to say the cluster one | 18:15 |
| edmondk | but you already ahve it | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | edmondk: Yes, I put that one in already based on the discussions we've had so far. | 18:16 |
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| SlickNik | In fact, maybe we should take a few minutes time after this meeting to go flesh that out. | 18:17 |
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| SlickNik | If you'd like to discuss / participate in a session feel free to put in just a line / two for the title and goal. | 18:18 |
| SlickNik | Others and myself can add in discussion points. | 18:18 |
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| SlickNik | Any ideas folks want to propose? Or any other questions regarding this? | 18:20 |
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| SlickNik | . | 18:22 |
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| SlickNik | Okay, let's move on. | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | #topic Implement dangling mock detector for unittests (and recommended mocking guidelines - see the below spec for more details) | 18:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Implement dangling mock detector for unittests (and recommended mocking guidelines - see the below spec for more details) (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:22 | |
| pmalik | I am looking for some feedback on the proposed mocking strategy. | 18:22 |
| pmalik | I think it would be helpful to have a set of general guidelines on which | 18:22 |
| pmalik | approach (see 'Recommended Mocking Patterns') to use when. | 18:22 |
| pmalik | If we got an agreement I would submit my detector code together with a | 18:22 |
| pmalik | sample usage and fix for review and set up an Etherpad page where people | 18:22 |
| pmalik | could sign for modules they'd like to cleanup. | 18:22 |
| SlickNik | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176158/ | 18:23 |
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| SlickNik | pmalik: I like the idea — we've had a lot of random failures in unit tests because of incorrect mocking. | 18:24 |
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| pmalik | I also think that we should cleanup all test cases as a part of this project as oposed to just fixing the leaked mocks. | 18:24 |
| peterstac | I agree, it's a good excuse to do some overdue housekeeping | 18:24 |
| sushilkm | yeah, and many-a-times it creates some problem while writing other tests too, have been a victim | 18:24 |
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| pmalik | It would be good if we all followe the same mocking style. | 18:25 |
| pmalik | I tried to propose something in the spec, but of course it is not hard solid... | 18:25 |
| peterstac | Have people had a chance to review the suggestions? | 18:26 |
| edmondk | we should prefer to inject items into classes vs mocking out globals as well | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | pmalik: "fixing all tests" doesn't seem specifically actionable. | 18:26 |
| peterstac | (I have and tend to agree with them) | 18:26 |
| SlickNik | pmalik: without having a plan as to what we are actually fixing. | 18:27 |
| pmalik | The tests are in packages. Many packages contain only a couple of files. | 18:27 |
| peterstac | SlickNik: I think he means to do away with the 'orig=method method=mock method=orig' type used in the past | 18:28 |
| pmalik | We need to fix leaked mocks for sure. | 18:28 |
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| edmondk | yeah we do need to fix them | 18:28 |
| peterstac | SlickNik: as part of the cleanup | 18:28 |
| pmalik | but I was also thinking about cleanup existing mocking - see peter's comment. | 18:28 |
| pmalik | We should really be using the .start(), .stop() methods for those. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | Or context manager/decorators for smaller scopes. | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | pmalik: Do you have a link for the .start() and .stop() methods? | 18:30 |
| SlickNik | (some sort of doc) | 18:30 |
| peterstac | SlickNik: I think there's an example in the spec | 18:30 |
| peterstac | Under 'Recommended Mocking Patterns' | 18:30 |
| pmalik | see 26.4.3.5. in https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.mock.html | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | Does this exist in 2.7 as well? | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | (That doc link is for version 3.3) | 18:32 |
| SlickNik | #link https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.mock.html | 18:32 |
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| pmalik | I've been using it in 2.7. I believe it's the same mock library... | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | Frankly, I'm less excited about going back and fixing all of the 'orig=method  method=mock  method=orig' style used in the past. | 18:34 |
| pmalik | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mock | 18:34 |
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| SlickNik | Because it's unit tests that already work, and there is a lot of other feature work in Trove that could use effort. | 18:35 |
| sushilkm | +1 | 18:36 |
| sushilkm | there are better areas to use the effort | 18:36 |
| pmalik | ok, so, you suggest using the proposed guideline for new ones only? | 18:37 |
| dougshelley66 | I tend to agree with SlickNik and sushilkm - we should fix the broken ones and move on. Establish the new standard going forward | 18:37 |
| vgnbkr | And I would suggest that reviews require modified tests to be converted as well. | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | pmalik: yes that would be my preference. | 18:38 |
| sushilkm | i wud agree on using the guideline for new-comers in testing | 18:38 |
| sushilkm | new-comers=new-unit-tests | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | pmalik: can we get the info that's in the spec on to a wiki page? | 18:38 |
| SlickNik | Or into the trove dev docs. | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Actually the latter would be better. | 18:39 |
| pmalik | sure, why not | 18:39 |
| SlickNik | Sounds good. | 18:40 |
| pmalik | ok, I will submit a review with the proposed implementation then. | 18:40 |
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| SlickNik | pmalik: want to action yourself? | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | #action pmalik submit a review with the proposed mocking implementation. | 18:41 |
| pmalik | ok thanks | 18:41 |
| SlickNik | Thank you! | 18:42 |
| SlickNik | #topic Open Discussion | 18:42 |
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| SlickNik | Any items for open discussion? | 18:42 |
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| SlickNik | Looks like we can end a bit early. | 18:44 |
| SlickNik | #action Everyone please fill out Design summit session suggestions at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-liberty-proposed-sessions | 18:45 |
| SlickNik | ^^ reminder — please take a few minutes to do that today. | 18:45 |
| SlickNik | #endmeeting | 18:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 18:45:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-04-22-18.01.html | 18:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-04-22-18.01.txt | 18:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-04-22-18.01.log.html | 18:45 |
| SlickNik | Thanks all! | 18:45 |
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| dougshelley66 | thanks SlickNik | 18:45 |
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| amrith | thanks SlickNik | 18:46 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | #start-meeting octavia | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #startmeeting octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 20:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
| ajmiller | o/ | 20:00 |
| mwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:00 |
| xgerman | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Meeting_2015-04-22 | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Meeting_2015-04-22 | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
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| xgerman | Octavia/LBaaS/VPNaaS/FWaaS Midcycle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaS-FWaaS-VPNaaS_Summer_Midcycle_meetup | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaS-FWaaS-VPNaaS_Summer_Midcycle_meetup | 20:02 |
| sballe | o/ sorry for being late I was in the wrong channe;;;;;;;l | 20:02 |
| xgerman | bo worries it's jus 120s | 20:02 |
| Trevor_V | o/ | 20:02 |
| xgerman | please vote on date and location with +1 | 20:02 |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:02 |
| dougwig | the MN location was offered by mestery, fyi. | 20:02 |
| blogan | im here! | 20:03 |
| mestery | Lake of the Woods is beautiful in the summer, trust me. | 20:03 |
| blogan | ive never been to minnesota | 20:03 |
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| rm_work | are we only voting if we can actually go to it? | 20:03 |
| xgerman | I have a tent and sleeping bags ;-) | 20:03 |
| blogan | we won't know if we can go to it until a while | 20:03 |
| rm_work | because if so, RAX is going to have to hold off on any votes until about 2 weeks before | 20:03 |
| dougwig | rm_work: i'd think yes. | 20:03 |
| Aish | o/ | 20:03 |
| dougwig | all of tax? | 20:03 |
| dougwig | rax? | 20:03 |
| dougwig | sheesh, then vote. | 20:04 |
| xgerman | you guys can't hust rent a minvan? Roadtrip? | 20:04 |
| rm_work | I mean, we still won't know if any of us can go until about 2-3 weeks | 20:04 |
| dougwig | someone go spin up a rax server, so they have a travel budget. | 20:04 |
| rm_work | T_T | 20:04 |
| blogan | those proceeds go to the marketing budget | 20:04 |
| johnsom | lol | 20:04 |
| rm_work | I'm only going to Vancouver because I am handling all of my own lodging and no per diem :P | 20:05 |
| rm_work | but at least I'll be there | 20:05 |
| blogan | panhandling | 20:05 |
| sballe | rm_work: It will great to have you there | 20:05 |
| xgerman | do I need to bring a tent, rm_work? | 20:05 |
| xgerman | sballe +1 | 20:05 |
| rm_work | thanks sballe :P might just have to beg for food periodically | 20:05 |
| xgerman | I will make sure to forward party invites to you | 20:06 |
| rm_work | hehe | 20:06 |
| sballe | I thought the food was included int he conference fee | 20:06 |
| rm_work | sballe: LUNCH is :) | 20:06 |
| johnsom | rm_work Sorry to hear that. We can probably help get you some food and beer at the events | 20:06 |
| sballe | and yeah we now have to go to all the parties | 20:06 |
| rm_work | Ah! Thanks sballe, gave me a great idea -- I'll just bring tupperware -- lunch for dinner! :P | 20:06 |
| sballe | -) | 20:06 |
| rm_work | anywho | 20:06 |
| xgerman | next announcement: | 20:07 |
| xgerman | LBaaS Vancouver Topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-vancouver-planning | 20:07 |
| rm_work | we will look at that list and vote :) | 20:07 |
| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-vancouver-planning | 20:07 |
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| xgerman | I assume dougwing and blogan started that | 20:07 |
| xgerman | dougwig | 20:07 |
| blogan | xgerman: yes | 20:07 |
| dougwig | i was told to expect to working group sessions for lbaas. one will be for lbaas feature planning, the other for "octavia as the ref driver". fyi. | 20:07 |
| dougwig | /to/two/ | 20:07 |
| blogan | excellent | 20:08 |
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| xgerman | awesome | 20:08 |
| sballe | +1 | 20:08 |
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| sballe | Do we know when they will be? | 20:08 |
| dougwig | mestery? | 20:08 |
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| dougwig | i'm not sure if it's final yet. | 20:08 |
| mestery | I'm still working on the schedule, so not yet | 20:09 |
| mestery | Hopefully by next Monday, but we'll see. | 20:09 |
| xgerman | ok, cool | 20:09 |
| xgerman | xo we need to add Octavia topics to that pad? | 20:09 |
| sballe | mestery: +1 | 20:09 |
| dougwig | yes, but start a new section at the bottom or something. | 20:09 |
| xgerman | ok, will do | 20:09 |
| xgerman | next | 20:10 |
| xgerman | Neutron Vancouver topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 20:10 |
| xgerman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 20:10 |
| blogan | my eyes! | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | and lastly I think an RC2 is being prepared... blogan, dougwig, mestery any details? | 20:11 |
| dougwig | i think that's all the details. if you need a fix in rc2, propose a cherry-pick to stable/kilo | 20:11 |
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| mestery | RC is in the works, will be cut tomorrow. | 20:11 |
| xgerman | so be quick with proposing | 20:11 |
| mestery | I spent an hour with ttx yesterday, we're just doign rechecks to get the final patches in | 20:11 |
| blogan | getting something in would have to be very important right? | 20:11 |
| mestery | It's actually too late to propose now. | 20:12 |
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| mestery | Unless it's a legitimate, "holy crap the relase will burn with this!" type of bug | 20:12 |
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| dougwig | given the overall flakiness of openstack, that is a very high bar indeed. | 20:12 |
| mestery | lol | 20:13 |
| xgerman | chair blogan | 20:13 |
| xgerman | #chair blogan | 20:13 |
| openstack | Current chairs: blogan xgerman | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | johnsom? | 20:14 |
| dougwig | neutron-lbaas driver - initial coding done, not tested *at all*, needs update for writable ids. WIP is here: | 20:14 |
| dougwig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174114/ | 20:14 |
| johnsom | I have been testing out controller worker on devstack (beating head against gerrit outages, back pypi packages, etc.) merging patchsets, etc. | 20:14 |
| blogan | 3 big things are controller worker, network driver, and amphora driver | 20:14 |
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| johnsom | Right now I have it up building through load balancers and plugging the networks | 20:15 |
| xgerman | that's something | 20:15 |
| blogan | so building the amphorae? and plugging the networks on those? | 20:15 |
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| xgerman | sound slike it | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I want to test through config generation, then might propose a merge and many bug fixes from there | 20:15 |
| blogan | are you using the devstack private network as the management network? | 20:15 |
| johnsom | blogan, yes | 20:16 |
| blogan | okay cool | 20:16 |
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| johnsom | blogan, yes, private for management, public for vip (just for giggles) | 20:16 |
| xgerman | demo-quality | 20:16 |
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| blogan | well i think the vip should be on an isolated network, and then just point a flip to that port to get public accessibility (but the vip network is controlleed by the user) | 20:17 |
| johnsom | not yet demo quality, we have some bugs and I'm doing some manual DB stuff, but getting there. | 20:17 |
| blogan | so that should be relatively easy | 20:17 |
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| Trevor_V | Just to provide a little update from myself. I tested the ssh_driver thus far with ubuntu 14.04, looks good on most recent patchset. Please comment if you find otherwise | 20:18 |
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| blogan | Trevor_V: looks good for all methods? | 20:18 |
| Trevor_V | Yep. | 20:18 |
| blogan | great | 20:18 |
| ptoohill | I am working/testing on patch for Al's devstack plugin to build the mgmt network and start the api. Also, tempest stuffs | 20:19 |
| xgerman | cool | 20:19 |
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| blogan | and network driver should be ready to go for a non vrrp setup, it needs some work to get multiple vrrp instances to work | 20:19 |
| xgerman | I updated the Amphora API spec and the whole REST stuff is coded... more testing needed though | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I'm really targeting non-vrrp at the moment, but it's cool that it is seeing progress too | 20:20 |
| blogan | for vrrp, which would be icing on the cake for a demo, the amphora driverw ould need an update | 20:20 |
| xgerman | well, we need something for Sunday night ;-) | 20:21 |
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| blogan | this sunday night? | 20:21 |
| xgerman | Sunday night before the talk | 20:21 |
| blogan | i know lol | 20:21 |
| johnsom | blogan dougwig It would be handy to get this merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172558 It's -1 dougwig | 20:22 |
| blogan | okay then we should get controller worker tested out, reviewed, and merged, which would also need tobe tested out with the network driver and amphora drivers | 20:22 |
| johnsom | The neutron driver depends on it | 20:22 |
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| blogan | dougwig: would you be okay with merging that in with a later review that would fix for vrrp? | 20:22 |
| dougwig | yes. | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Problem solved... | 20:23 |
| blogan | that would leave the controller worker and amphora driver then | 20:23 |
| blogan | and then we'd need to merge the stevedore loading of the handler ptoohill did | 20:24 |
| xgerman | i thought I +2'd that | 20:24 |
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| xgerman | so blogan merge ahead | 20:24 |
| blogan | lol well then i'll +A it | 20:24 |
| blogan | lol | 20:24 |
| ptoohill | You did, but adam only +1 | 20:24 |
| blogan | i need to test it out first | 20:24 |
| xgerman | yeah, he's cautious | 20:25 |
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| xgerman | #topic Sticker - Pick a design | 20:25 |
| blogan | oh it may need to add soemthing | 20:25 |
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| blogan | D | 20:25 |
| ptoohill | its a super simple change, and stevedore does what its supposed to. Theres no real logic there | 20:25 |
| xgerman | #link https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/8522%2F409388%2FzzvhUeiZJPki7iZ%2Foctavia_logo_revs3.pdf | 20:25 |
| xgerman | #link https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1PvJj_8A6oFRdUN9xAgm9Z8joM33Z7CuTJUzCQn3GoCM/edit | 20:26 |
| rm_work | alright, can +2, but i prefer to try RUNNING code like that :P | 20:26 |
| ptoohill | what does it need to add blogan | 20:26 |
| Trevor_V | NOT "your load is our job" | 20:26 |
| blogan | add the queue producer to the setup.cfg | 20:26 |
| ptoohill | oh | 20:26 |
| xgerman | so the s3 link is our corporate artist | 20:27 |
| Trevor_V | I did notice you guys completely disregarded our sticker ideas from last week. | 20:27 |
| Trevor_V | That's fine I guess. | 20:27 |
| madhu_ak | "Balance is our Business" +1 | 20:27 |
| Trevor_V | Oh pfff | 20:27 |
| Trevor_V | I didn't see the link to our stuff | 20:27 |
| blogan | wtg Trevor_V | 20:27 |
| xgerman | I linked it | 20:27 |
| xgerman | https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1PvJj_8A6oFRdUN9xAgm9Z8joM33Z7CuTJUzCQn3GoCM/edit | 20:28 |
| Trevor_V | I thought someone at HP was going to mock up our sticker stuffs with some tweaks of your own, my b | 20:28 |
| blogan | lol @ "Your load is our job" | 20:28 |
| Trevor_V | Not happening... We aint hookers | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Or sewage treatment workers... | 20:29 |
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| fnaval | Drop your load. | 20:29 |
| Trevor_V | Stop fnaval... just stop | 20:29 |
| ptoohill | lol | 20:29 |
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| madhu_ak | lol | 20:30 |
| xgerman | Ok, I think we need to decide on a design and then pick a slogan | 20:30 |
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| blogan | is it imperative to have this done today? | 20:31 |
| Trevor_V | I like the Rax design for "D" | 20:31 |
| xgerman | #vote Design: A, B, C, RAX-A, RAX-B, RAX-C, D, E, F, G | 20:31 |
| madhu_ak | D | 20:32 |
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| Trevor_V | xgerman, we want rax-D in there | 20:32 |
| ptoohill | #vote A | 20:32 |
| xgerman | #startvote Design: A, B, C, RAX-A, RAX-B, RAX-C, D, E, F, G | 20:32 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 20:32 |
| Trevor_V | Or is that just "d"? | 20:32 |
| johnsom | #startvote | 20:32 |
| openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 20:32 |
| xgerman | yep, just D | 20:32 |
| Trevor_V | got it | 20:32 |
| ptoohill | #vote A | 20:32 |
| madhu_ak | D | 20:32 |
| ptoohill | A | 20:32 |
| dougwig | #startvote Which design? A, B, C, RAX-A, RAX-B, RAX-C, D, E, F, G | 20:32 |
| openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 20:32 |
| ptoohill | :P | 20:32 |
| xgerman | #startvote Which design? A, B, C, RAX-A, RAX-B, RAX-C, D, E, F, G | 20:33 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Which design? Valid vote options are A, B, C, RAX-A, RAX-B, RAX-C, D, E, F, G. | 20:33 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Yeah, what he said | 20:33 |
| Trevor_V | #vote d | 20:33 |
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| ptoohill | #vote A | 20:33 |
| mwang2_ | #vote D | 20:33 |
| blogan | #vote D | 20:33 |
| madhu_ak | #vote D | 20:33 |
| dougwig | #vote d | 20:33 |
| ijw | #vote D | 20:33 |
| johnsom | #vote a | 20:33 |
| fnaval | #vote D | 20:33 |
| dougwig | i actually prefer A, except for the two-tone. | 20:33 |
| xgerman | #vote B | 20:33 |
| ajmiller | #vote A | 20:33 |
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| bharath | #vote D | 20:34 |
| ptoohill | which is D? | 20:34 |
| jwarendt | #vote B | 20:34 |
| Trevor_V | Its on our link ptoohill | 20:34 |
| xgerman | D is on the RAX sheet | 20:34 |
| ijw | ptoohill: the nice one | 20:34 |
| ptoohill | oh | 20:34 |
| Aish | #vote D | 20:34 |
| Trevor_V | pff ijw | 20:34 |
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| * ijw is only lurking in the background, really, but I'm trying to save you from yourselves ;) | 20:34 | |
| xgerman | thanks we need that | 20:35 |
| xgerman | ijw | 20:35 |
| xgerman | #endvote | 20:35 |
| openstack | Voted on "Which design?" Results are | 20:35 |
| openstack | A (3): johnsom, ajmiller, ptoohill | 20:35 |
| openstack | B (2): xgerman, jwarendt | 20:35 |
| dougwig | ijw: lol | 20:35 |
| openstack | D (9): Aish, fnaval, ijw, dougwig, Trevor_V, madhu_ak, bharath, mwang2_, blogan | 20:35 |
| xgerman | ok, D it is | 20:35 |
| blogan | Octavia gets the D | 20:35 |
| Trevor_V | Woot | 20:35 |
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| Trevor_V | Now time to drop a load | 20:35 |
| rm_work | aww missed it | 20:35 |
| rm_work | ah well | 20:35 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:35 |
| Trevor_V | (damnit fnaval) | 20:35 |
| ijw | Trevor_V: tmi | 20:35 |
| xgerman | so do we need a different tagline then "Openstack Loadbalancing" | 20:36 |
| fnaval | ?? Trevor_V | 20:36 |
| Trevor_V | it matched too well ijw | 20:36 |
| ptoohill | nii | 20:36 |
| Trevor_V | I honestly don't think so xgerman | 20:36 |
| blogan | xgerman: i'm worried that if we tag it as openstack that might be a problem, then again it probably wont witht eh big tent approach now | 20:36 |
| Trevor_V | Up to other suggestions for sure | 20:36 |
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| xgerman | ok, blogan has a valid point | 20:37 |
| blogan | its a low probability chance | 20:38 |
| blogan | i just want to use "Your load, our job" or whatever that was | 20:38 |
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| Trevor_V | Stop it blogan | 20:38 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:38 |
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| dougwig | moving on? | 20:40 |
| blogan | yeah i like openstack load balancing | 20:40 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:40 |
| fnaval | Balancing at work. | 20:40 |
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| ajmiller | I've been doing bunches of devstack/vagrant stuff for both neutron-lbaas and octavia. Would appreciate reviews on: | 20:40 |
| ajmiller | #link https://review.openstack.org/173438 | 20:40 |
| ajmiller | #link https://review.openstack.org/175174 | 20:41 |
| blogan | possible topic: octavia under mestery's dictatorship (big tent discussion)? | 20:41 |
| ajmiller | #link https://review.openstack.org/167796 | 20:41 |
| ptoohill | ajmiller i can adjust my vote now ;) | 20:41 |
| blogan | ajmiller: is a pinata of reviews | 20:41 |
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| ajmiller | The first two are for neutron-lbaas and I think are ready for +2/A | 20:41 |
| mestery | blogan: ++, I think that makes sense, see russellb's email about the other networking-foo projects today and my response | 20:41 |
| ajmiller | The third is octavia. | 20:41 |
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| blogan | mestery: i do too, even with you being a ruthless dictator, but i'd like to guage everyone else's ideas | 20:42 |
| dougwig | blogan: let's ship some code first. | 20:42 |
| mestery | lol | 20:42 |
| * mestery makes a note to have blogan walk the plank | 20:42 | |
| xgerman | nah, let's be like congress | 20:42 |
| * blogan sinks like a witch | 20:42 | |
| russellb | i think projects should be considered "one of us" without having to be in production already, we need to change that outlook | 20:43 |
| russellb | when a project is under development in our community, it's already a part of hte openstack community, IMO | 20:43 |
| ptoohill | i like that thinking | 20:43 |
| xgerman | nicely put russelb | 20:43 |
| russellb | that's how the TC has been looking at projects as of late | 20:43 |
| dougwig | hmm, i'd like to see a team gel and prove itself before we rush to inclusiveness. | 20:43 |
| xgerman | ok, so move under mestery;s iron fist immediately | 20:43 |
| blogan | russellb: so everything is openstack that is stackforge then? | 20:44 |
| dougwig | but i've been wrong plenty of times before. | 20:44 |
| russellb | blogan: most of it, i expect | 20:44 |
| mestery | dougwig: party pooper | 20:44 |
| mestery | ;) | 20:44 |
| russellb | dougwig: yes agree that there should be some level of "yes, this appears to be a real thing" | 20:44 |
| russellb | people seem to care, people are participating | 20:44 |
| blogan | russellb: any discussion on how that will be done? | 20:44 |
| russellb | and they are doing it in the openstack way | 20:45 |
| russellb | blogan: lots of it :) | 20:45 |
| russellb | http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html | 20:45 |
| blogan | russellb: lol i mean any solid solutions? | 20:45 |
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| dougwig | given this, do folks want to move earlier? is mestery in favor of that? | 20:45 |
| russellb | solid solutions to what | 20:45 |
| blogan | ah thanks | 20:45 |
| xgerman | dougwig +1 | 20:45 |
| mestery | +2 | 20:45 |
| blogan | russellb: to what quality the project has to be in before it can be considered openstack (not just code quality) | 20:46 |
| blogan | i think that link will answer my questiosn though | 20:46 |
| russellb | yeah, it should answer it | 20:46 |
| russellb | hopefully | 20:46 |
| russellb | and then we're defining higher optional bars for project to reach with "tags" | 20:46 |
| blogan | russellb: will the ptl have to lead every meeting and manage the releases for every project under him? | 20:46 |
| blogan | him/her | 20:46 |
| russellb | like, a project *may* be given a tag indicating that its participation has a diverse affiliation -- http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/team_diverse-affiliation.html | 20:46 |
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| dougwig | blogan: they already don't. | 20:47 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:47 |
| xgerman | we can have a delegate | 20:47 |
| xgerman | aka mestery can send an envoy | 20:47 |
| blogan | okay, as long as mestery's soul isn't sucked out of him | 20:47 |
| mestery | lol | 20:47 |
| blogan | russellb: one more question then, what role would the ptl have in these projects then? | 20:48 |
| dougwig | mestery absorbs open-source souls into his body, via an expanding empire, i think. | 20:48 |
| russellb | that's project specific | 20:48 |
| xgerman | so mestery is the vampire | 20:48 |
| russellb | PTL can be involved or delegate as much as they'd like | 20:48 |
| mestery | That's an image I can't scrub from my eyes now dougwig, thanks. | 20:48 |
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| mestery | lol | 20:49 |
| * blogan noticed | 20:49 | |
| blogan | lol | 20:49 |
| blogan | sounds like an agile process | 20:49 |
| xgerman | ok, so do we need to vote when to move? | 20:50 |
| blogan | i'd say give people some time to think about it | 20:50 |
| xgerman | yeah + the earliest after the demo to minimize distractions | 20:50 |
| dougwig | let's let russellb's ML thread play out, too. he can pave the way. :) | 20:50 |
| * russellb just trying to help | 20:51 | |
| blogan | russellb: thanks for answering questions btw | 20:51 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:51 |
| russellb | dougwig: really nice comments in gerrit pointing out questions that need to be answered | 20:51 |
| blogan | russellb: there's a spec for this? | 20:52 |
| dougwig | russellb: thanks for taking the initiative on this. i like it. | 20:52 |
| xgerman | link to the spec please? | 20:52 |
| xgerman | dougwig +1 | 20:52 |
| russellb | no spec | 20:53 |
| russellb | i started a ML thread that's related | 20:53 |
| russellb | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062310.html | 20:53 |
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| dougwig | blogan: there was an early gerrit review, since abandoned: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175952/3 | 20:53 |
| dougwig | the ML is where it's at now. | 20:53 |
| russellb | yeah, my gerrit reviews were a little ahead of the bigger question | 20:53 |
| russellb | so i dropped them for now | 20:53 |
| blogan | dougwig, russellb: alright thanks! | 20:54 |
| xgerman | ok, 6 minutes left - anything else? | 20:54 |
| mwang2_ | code review needed for tempest | 20:55 |
| mwang2_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173542/ | 20:55 |
| ptoohill | would like to clarify the lb_network_name that is currently in the config | 20:55 |
| madhu_ak | same here as well. #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171832/ | 20:55 |
| madhu_ak | thanks blogan | 20:56 |
| ptoohill | This question kinda ties in with Al's debstack plugin review and amp_network_list. But suppose we can talk about this later | 20:56 |
| xgerman | ptoohill I put that in because for network)id you need some extension HP didn't have | 20:56 |
| johnsom | ptoohill I think that is going away as I added a controller config for that | 20:56 |
| johnsom | it was just bad timing | 20:56 |
| ptoohill | so that option should live in the controller_worker group? | 20:56 |
| ptoohill | as a list? | 20:56 |
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| russellb | blogan: you're quite welcome, thanks for letting me drop in :) | 20:56 |
| johnsom | ptoohill yep | 20:57 |
| johnsom | [controller_worker] | 20:57 |
| johnsom | amp_network_list = 62a63520-7bf1-47e0-b90d-5918d4dc45d4 | 20:57 |
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| ptoohill | yea, i seen that and was just curious. Then we should remove the option under networking group | 20:57 |
| blogan | johnsom: is that the management network? | 20:57 |
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| ptoohill | this works for me, i was just confused | 20:57 |
| johnsom | Yes | 20:57 |
| blogan | okay, amp_network is probably a better name | 20:58 |
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| ptoohill | and i believe itll need to be updated in the compute worker also | 20:58 |
| blogan | russellb: like dougwig said, thanks for leading the effort | 20:58 |
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| ptoohill | being thats a list im sure we need to define logic on which one to use from the list? | 20:59 |
| blogan | all | 20:59 |
| xgerman | all? | 20:59 |
| blogan | i would assume all | 20:59 |
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| xgerman | or select at random | 20:59 |
| ptoohill | thats works also | 20:59 |
| johnsom | I welcome comments on the ocde | 20:59 |
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| dougwig | we | 21:00 |
| blogan | right now all is a good bet, random would cause issues later | 21:00 |
| dougwig | we're past time | 21:00 |
| blogan | stop ruining meeting time! | 21:00 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| ptoohill | thank you | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 21:00:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-22-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-22-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-04-22-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| Trevor_V | Updated | 21:01 |
| xgerman | Thanks! | 21:02 |
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