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sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue May 5 17:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:01 |
ruhe | \o | 17:01 |
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henar | hi | 17:01 |
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StanLagun | hi | 17:02 |
katyafervent | hi | 17:02 |
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sergmelikyan | Wow, feared that today we would have not so much people joining :) | 17:03 |
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sergmelikyan | let's get started... | 17:04 |
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sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Action Items Review (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:04 | |
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul has been restarted to troubleshoot an issue, gerrit events between 15:00-17:00 utc were lost and changes updated or approved during that time will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes readded to trigger testing | 17:04 | |
sergmelikyan | #1 sergmelikyan, prepare etherpads for summit | 17:04 |
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sergmelikyan | Sadly due to pre-release activities was not able to start them :( | 17:05 |
sergmelikyan | I hoped that today we can discuss topics for summit sessions | 17:05 |
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sergmelikyan | #topic Summit Etherpads | 17:05 |
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sergmelikyan | I suspect that this topic may take whole meeting, any topics that we need to discuss before? | 17:06 |
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sergmelikyan | So for the summit we have 1 fishbowl session, 2 work session and whole table for contributors meetup | 17:09 |
sergmelikyan | Each session is around 45 minutes, and I think better to start with drafting our fishbowl session | 17:10 |
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sergmelikyan | btw, our schedule https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/design+summit/Murano | 17:10 |
sergmelikyan | #info Design Summit Schedule for Murano https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/design+summit/Murano | 17:10 |
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sergmelikyan | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-kilo-draft-etherpads | 17:12 |
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ruhe | what major themes should we discuss there? | 17:12 |
sergmelikyan | Good question, I would say we should start with overview of the next release | 17:13 |
ruhe | new API design? Package versioning? muranopl debugger? | 17:13 |
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sergmelikyan | ruhe, I think on this session it will be contrproductive to discuss actual design | 17:14 |
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sergmelikyan | It's a big room that may attend up-to 300 people | 17:14 |
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ruhe | yeah... | 17:15 |
ruhe | 300 people | 17:15 |
sergmelikyan | And they designed to gather attention, more than design. Work session are more suitable for designing | 17:15 |
sergmelikyan | and discussions | 17:15 |
ruhe | we better spend this time to promote the project, share results from kilo, roadmap for L | 17:15 |
sergmelikyan | Yeah, exactly my thoughts | 17:15 |
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sergmelikyan | I am not sure about covering Kilo, do you think we should? | 17:16 |
ruhe | just a quick overview | 17:16 |
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sergmelikyan | 5m? | 17:18 |
ruhe | yeah, not more than that | 17:18 |
sergmelikyan | I am filling etherpad throgh our discussion | 17:20 |
sergmelikyan | What about covering hot topics like Kubernetes? | 17:20 |
ruhe | shure! | 17:21 |
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sergmelikyan | We have around 2-3 presentation on the OpenStack Summit about this topic, so probably we need to focus on implementation details? | 17:21 |
sergmelikyan | Like scaling and so on, I mean how it's done in Murano? | 17:22 |
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ruhe | StanLagun: what do you think? ^ | 17:22 |
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sergmelikyan | ruhe, looks like I was right regarding participation in the meeting :) | 17:24 |
StanLagun | ruhe, honestly I don't know. On one hand k8s is indeed a hot topic. On the other end it just an ordinary Murano application. We didn't create any new technologies for it. It is written entirely in MuranoPL and could be written a year ago if there was k8s at that time | 17:24 |
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StanLagun | *other hand* | 17:25 |
ruhe | StanLagun: but you can show what helped you to integrate Kubernetes into OpenStack | 17:25 |
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StanLagun | ruhe, the problem that it is not about Murano. It is about one particular application | 17:26 |
sergmelikyan | can't disagree with that, on other hand it took not so much time to bring k8s to OpenStack with Murano, and I am sure we can show some interesting points that made it easy | 17:27 |
sergmelikyan | But will it be suitable for Design Summit? | 17:27 |
sergmelikyan | let's mark this topic with question and see if we can think about how it can be presented right? | 17:28 |
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sergmelikyan | #action StanLagun, try to find out do we have interesting staff around k8s and Murano | 17:28 |
sergmelikyan | I think we should spend reasonable amount of time around our Roadmap for Liberty, and gather feedback about what people think | 17:30 |
StanLagun | this is a good topic for master class / brown bag session etc | 17:30 |
sergmelikyan | There is changes around Release Cycle Management that make planning more relaxed: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle_Management/Liberty_Tracking | 17:30 |
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sergmelikyan | So essentially it's proposed to have more vague roadmap for the cycle, and we can gather feedback during this session and consider while choosing to which feature invest our time | 17:32 |
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sergmelikyan | Folks, how do you think how much time we should spend around this? | 17:32 |
sergmelikyan | Schedule is really tight... 45m for fishbowl... | 17:33 |
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ruhe | fishbowl is how many people? | 17:33 |
sergmelikyan | 300 | 17:34 |
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ruhe | ah | 17:34 |
sergmelikyan | up to 300 | 17:34 |
ruhe | it's the same session you're talking abou :) | 17:34 |
sergmelikyan | Yeah, we started with that session :) We still working on agenda for this session | 17:34 |
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sergmelikyan | Let's start with 15m for that one :) | 17:36 |
ruhe | i think we should continue discussion in the etherpad | 17:36 |
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sergmelikyan | ruhe, I though that we will draft rough agenda now and continue refining in etherpad | 17:37 |
sergmelikyan | ruhe, you think it is unproductive? | 17:37 |
* sergmelikyan feel like that, with only few people participating | 17:37 | |
ruhe | yeah, this reason | 17:38 |
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sergmelikyan | yeah... | 17:38 |
sergmelikyan | #info further discussion about sessions will be continued in the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-kilo-draft-etherpads | 17:39 |
sergmelikyan | With that sad note we are moving to open discussion... | 17:39 |
sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:39 |
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ruhe | StanLagun: you always wanted design session, you should come up with nice ideas ;) | 17:40 |
sergmelikyan | We will have whole friday for heated discussions :) | 17:41 |
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StanLagun | I have a long list of problems that we need to design. Many of them are in our Liberty roadmap | 17:41 |
sergmelikyan | ruhe, I will be really missing you on summit :( | 17:41 |
StanLagun | ruhe, I thought you are going there | 17:42 |
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sergmelikyan | btw, this time flight to America should be less tough than previous :) Only 15h vs 24 to Atlanta | 17:46 |
sergmelikyan | I learned my lessons and selected flight much more carefully :) | 17:46 |
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* sergmelikyan America = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America | 17:48 | |
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sergmelikyan | Let's finish a little bit early today? I hope next meeting will be much more productive given short time before the summit... | 17:51 |
ruhe | StanLagun: I'm going | 17:51 |
ruhe | +1 to finish earlier | 17:51 |
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sergmelikyan | ruhe, O.O | 17:53 |
sergmelikyan | You are going?! | 17:53 |
ruhe | surprise :) | 17:53 |
sergmelikyan | Yay!!! | 17:53 |
sergmelikyan | Awesome! | 17:53 |
sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:53 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 5 17:53:35 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-05-05-17.00.html | 17:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-05-05-17.00.txt | 17:53 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-05-05-17.00.log.html | 17:53 |
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jdob | o/ | 19:00 |
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slagle | o/ | 19:01 |
shardy | o/ | 19:01 |
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slagle | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue May 5 19:01:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slagle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:01 |
slagle | hi everyone | 19:02 |
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slagle | #topic agenda | 19:02 |
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slagle | * bugs | 19:02 |
slagle | * reviews | 19:02 |
slagle | * Projects needing releases | 19:02 |
slagle | * CI | 19:02 |
slagle | * Specs | 19:02 |
slagle | * open discussion | 19:02 |
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slagle | we have some one-off agenda items as well from last time: | 19:02 |
slagle | * Ceph blueprint, do we consider it completed based on puppet status? | 19:03 |
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slagle | * Meetings time, shall we switch back to single meeting time? | 19:03 |
bnemec | o/ | 19:03 |
slagle | i just noticed those, let's talk about those prior to open discussion | 19:03 |
gfidente^2nd | o/ | 19:03 |
slagle | #topic bugs | 19:03 |
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slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-net-config | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:03 |
slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:03 |
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slagle | i downgraded https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1444585 | 19:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1444585 in tripleo "Error: Invalid parameter warn on Concat failing puppet jobs" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to James Slagle (james-slagle) | 19:04 |
slagle | we have a workaround in place | 19:04 |
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slagle | believe we can downgrade https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1441170 as well | 19:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1441170 in python-ironicclient "ironicclient "Not Acceptable" error" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John L. Villalovos (happycamp) | 19:05 |
slagle | if not close it out | 19:05 |
slagle | i guess we can leave it open until the ironicclient fix is released | 19:06 |
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slagle | diskimage-builder needs some triage | 19:07 |
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slagle | hmm, i thought we had already fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1451767 | 19:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1451767 in diskimage-builder "IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/tmp/svc-map-services'" [High,Confirmed] | 19:10 |
gfidente^2nd | I think I've seen this https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1451767 happening when devtest is launched as root as the svc-map-services is not deleted after the run | 19:10 |
slagle | maybe there's just a review up for it | 19:10 |
gfidente^2nd | so a new attempt with non-root user gets that | 19:10 |
slagle | ah | 19:10 |
bnemec | slagle: I was thinking the same thing. | 19:10 |
slagle | oh well, we can take a look at post-meeting. it's triaged now | 19:11 |
slagle | i dont see anything else untriaged | 19:11 |
bnemec | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139064 should have fixed the svc-map thing, I believe. | 19:12 |
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slagle | yea | 19:12 |
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slagle | maybe the reported as an old dib | 19:12 |
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slagle | *reporter | 19:12 |
bnemec | Yeah | 19:12 |
slagle | any other bug business? | 19:12 |
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slagle | #topic reviews | 19:13 |
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slagle | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:13 |
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slagle | i'd just like to continue to remind everyone that a good way to get your own code reviewed is to do reviews yourself | 19:14 |
slagle | the more you do, the more it frees up others to review your own code :) | 19:15 |
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slagle | i also sent a core reviewer update to openstack-dev | 19:15 |
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slagle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/063275.html | 19:15 |
jdob | glad to see us adding new cores | 19:15 |
slagle | existing cores, please review that and respond as you see fit | 19:16 |
slagle | jdob: indeed, it's good to see some folks stepping up | 19:16 |
gfidente | so an old rule I remember from tempest is that cores are not supposed to leave +1 | 19:17 |
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gfidente | what is the sentiment in regard to this for us? | 19:17 |
jdob | no, we leave +1s | 19:17 |
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jdob | under the rationale of "I'm with this, but not a complete expert that I'm comfortable leaving a +2" | 19:17 |
slagle | i still do +1's | 19:17 |
jdob | IMO, that's because of how diverse our repos are | 19:18 |
shardy | I think it's fine, it's generally "ok but could be better", or as jdob says, some subsystem you're not super expert in | 19:18 |
bnemec | +1 | 19:18 |
gfidente | yeah I would myself prefer +1 unless sure of a +2 | 19:18 |
jdob | personally, I'm way more familiar with tht than I am DIB | 19:18 |
shardy | at least that's how I've always treated +1 w/heat reviews | 19:18 |
gfidente | ack :) | 19:18 |
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slagle | #topic Projects needing releases | 19:19 |
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slagle | any volunteers? | 19:19 |
slagle | if not, i can do it | 19:19 |
slagle | i think i forgot to last time actually | 19:19 |
jdob | i'll do it | 19:19 |
slagle | jdob: thanks! | 19:19 |
slagle | #action jdob to release the world | 19:20 |
slagle | #topic CI | 19:20 |
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dprince | leaving +1 as a core is totally valid | 19:20 |
slagle | we had a regression last week, but it was reverted | 19:20 |
slagle | #link http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html | 19:20 |
jdob | WE'VE MOVED ON DPRINCE, KEEP UP | 19:21 |
slagle | hmm, i do see a string of red there | 19:21 |
slagle | guess zuul/jenkins is still having problems | 19:22 |
bnemec | Oh yeah, there was a weird error in one of the puppet jobs I looked at. | 19:22 |
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gfidente | well I have a couple of changes which never got the CI results | 19:24 |
slagle | looks like a variety of problems | 19:24 |
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bnemec | gfidente: That's probably the infra problem. Just recheck. | 19:24 |
gfidente | one of the change is against a puppet-module though so it seems a problem with streams again | 19:24 |
slagle | i see a overcloud create failed, an overcloud instnace ping timeout, but they both end with a jenkins traceback | 19:25 |
slagle | oh yea, and here's one that look like it passed but with the same tb | 19:25 |
slagle | something to keep an eye on anyway to see if we start to get some passing jobs | 19:26 |
bnemec | Okay, so no need to panic until zuul/jenkins get this stuff together. | 19:26 |
bnemec | s/this/their/ | 19:26 |
* bnemec typey typey too much | 19:26 | |
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slagle | yea | 19:27 |
slagle | ok, moving on | 19:27 |
slagle | #topic Specs | 19:27 |
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slagle | anything new to report? | 19:28 |
bnemec | Did we ever merge the selinux spec? | 19:28 |
slagle | no | 19:28 |
gfidente | one of the topics I had was about the cinder/ceph spec | 19:29 |
bnemec | A bunch of the work is done, and I don't think anyone had more than nit picks with the spec itself. | 19:29 |
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slagle | i'm curious how much is still relevant given the move away from openstack elements | 19:30 |
slagle | maybe all of it still is? | 19:30 |
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bnemec | Some of it, at least. Maybe it does need to be re-reviewed in light of that though. | 19:31 |
slagle | gfidente: would you like to talk about the ceph spec now? | 19:32 |
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gfidente | yeah we still get denials in the puppet jobs | 19:32 |
gfidente | so some of it still applies, +1 on a re-review | 19:32 |
gfidente | the ceph spec yes, problem is along same lines | 19:33 |
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gfidente | we have it implemented but only with puppet, what shall we do with the spec? close? | 19:33 |
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slagle | well that spec is merged | 19:34 |
slagle | i think we could close the blueprint | 19:34 |
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slagle | so i think the question is, when we end up implementing something differently (or not at all) from how we said we would in the spec, what do we do | 19:35 |
gfidente | yeah in this case the implementation is pretty much what was described in the spec, only it is not via elements but via puppet | 19:36 |
gfidente | for bugs, I am using the 'puppet' tag | 19:36 |
gfidente | for blueprints it looks like there can't be a tag | 19:36 |
slagle | gfidente: i would consider the spec complete | 19:37 |
slagle | i dont think we need to retroactively update them to reflect what happened | 19:37 |
bnemec | I'm fine with that, fwiw. | 19:38 |
slagle | i'm seeing a lot less specs. and not a lot of complaints | 19:38 |
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slagle | gfidente: we can close the blueprint as well if you feel the work is complete | 19:39 |
slagle | just let me know | 19:39 |
gfidente | I think support for pre-existing ceph can be considered a different task | 19:39 |
slagle | ok | 19:40 |
gfidente | if people agree with that, I'm inclined to close it | 19:40 |
slagle | wfm | 19:40 |
bnemec | +1 | 19:40 |
slagle | #topic Meetings time, shall we switch back to single meeting time? | 19:41 |
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slagle | i think it's evident we dont need the alternate meeting time any longer | 19:41 |
slagle | no one spoke up in support of it | 19:41 |
bnemec | I think it's somewhat academic, given that the people who ran the alternate time no longer are. | 19:41 |
slagle | indeed | 19:41 |
bnemec | No one to run the meeting == no meeting :-) | 19:42 |
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slagle | the next question is if we feel the need to meet every week, at the same time | 19:42 |
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slagle | and, i'm actually thinking no | 19:42 |
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slagle | given our every other week meeting is usually sparsely attended | 19:42 |
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jdob | so keeping this schedule and outright cancelling the alt week? | 19:42 |
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slagle | jdob: pretty much | 19:43 |
jdob | +1 | 19:43 |
gfidente | +1 as well | 19:43 |
jistr | +1 | 19:43 |
bnemec | +1's all around! | 19:43 |
slagle | let it be so! | 19:43 |
slagle | #topic open discussion | 19:43 |
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slagle | i've set the topic for the 2 tripleo fishbowl sessions at the summit | 19:44 |
slagle | on sched.org | 19:44 |
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slagle | #link http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/design+summit/TripleO | 19:44 |
bnemec | Yeah, I guess that makes this the last scheduled meeting before summit. | 19:44 |
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slagle | for the work sessions, i plan to just push up a summary of what folks are likely to be working on | 19:45 |
slagle | and let everyone self-organize at the individual sessions | 19:45 |
slagle | the contributors meetup is also open ended for self-organizing to work on what we want to work on | 19:45 |
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slagle | any other business? | 19:46 |
slagle | thanks folks! | 19:47 |
slagle | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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jdob | \o | 19:47 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 5 19:47:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-05-05-19.01.html | 19:47 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-05-05-19.01.txt | 19:47 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-05-05-19.01.log.html | 19:47 |
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gfidente | thanks slagle | 19:47 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue May 5 21:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:00 |
adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-05-05_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:00 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
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datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:00 |
adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:00 |
mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:00 |
muralia | murali allada | 21:00 |
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devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:00 |
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adrian_otto | I am having a little internet trouble, so if I am slow responding just carry on, please | 21:01 |
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adrian_otto | hello datsun180b mkam muralia devkulkarni | 21:02 |
devkulkarni | hello adrian_otto | 21:02 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:04 |
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adrian_otto | 1) Reminder: There will be no team meeting on 2015-05-19 due to the OpenStack Summit. | 21:04 |
akshayc | ok | 21:05 |
adrian_otto | that concludes prepared announcements. Are there any other announcements from team members? | 21:05 |
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devkulkarni | hi akshayc | 21:05 |
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james_li | james li | 21:05 |
akshayc | hi devkulkarni | 21:05 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:06 |
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adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to spring clean our blueprints | 21:06 |
adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to spring clean our bug list | 21:07 |
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adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to email the dev list concluding the Solum PTL Election | 21:07 |
devkulkarni | adrian_otto: just a fyi, sometime last week I looked at some of the bugs and marked them as either resolved or in progress | 21:07 |
adrian_otto | my hope is to conclude these upon tagging a release | 21:07 |
devkulkarni | hope you don't mind | 21:07 |
adrian_otto | thanks! | 21:07 |
adrian_otto | yes, can use all the help I can get | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | I was in the middle of submitting a patch for my bug and so while I was at it, did a few | 21:08 |
adrian_otto | are we ready to tag a release of solum? | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | I think so.. | 21:08 |
adrian_otto | that will help to clear our all the fix committed tickets | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | muralia: what about your patch? | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | does not need to get in? | 21:08 |
muralia | which one? the keystone one? | 21:08 |
devkulkarni | yeah.. | 21:08 |
adrian_otto | we can wait if we are not ready | 21:09 |
muralia | no it doesnt. its just improvement and does not block anything | 21:09 |
datsun180b | muralia: ahem | 21:09 |
devkulkarni | james_li, datsun180b, mkam: thoughts? | 21:09 |
adrian_otto | we can always tag another as a fast follow | 21:10 |
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datsun180b | well i'd like to get the trigger changes into solum but admittedly it's not mandatory yet | 21:10 |
datsun180b | it can always come in another release | 21:10 |
devkulkarni | mkam/james_li: ? | 21:10 |
muralia | i good with that | 21:10 |
james_li | better to have mine: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170313/ | 21:11 |
adrian_otto | ok, so I will take an action to tag a release if there are no objections. | 21:11 |
devkulkarni | adrian_otto: may be after we merge james_li's patch? | 21:11 |
adrian_otto | ok | 21:11 |
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james_li | I will fix the gate by today | 21:11 |
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devkulkarni | james_li: +1 | 21:12 |
james_li | I think most of the team has already reviewed it | 21:12 |
adrian_otto | ok, so if you email me when you are ready, I can do my part | 21:12 |
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james_li | thanks adrian_otto | 21:12 |
adrian_otto | #topic BP/Task Review | 21:13 |
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adrian_otto | any work items requiring team discussion (maybe https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170313/ perhaps?) | 21:13 |
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devkulkarni | sure.. james_li can give high-level description of the patch | 21:14 |
james_li | it separates the storage of DU image loc and tag | 21:15 |
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james_li | so we don't need to concat the two things into one big string | 21:15 |
james_li | so improves reliability. | 21:15 |
james_li | very straightforward | 21:16 |
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adrian_otto | brb, switching connections. | 21:16 |
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devkulkarni | james_li: +1 | 21:17 |
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adrian_otto1 | ok, anything else to cover on tas review? | 21:17 |
adrian_otto1 | *task | 21:17 |
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james_li | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163120/ | 21:18 |
james_li | that one seems sitting there for a while | 21:18 |
james_li | muralia: ^^ | 21:18 |
muralia | yes, this is one of the next few things im going to work on. | 21:18 |
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muralia | basically, we've added a lot of plan validation in the CLI | 21:19 |
muralia | we need to move it to the API. I'm ok with someone else taking ownership of this patch whil im working on other things | 21:19 |
datsun180b | what's it need besides a rebase anyway | 21:19 |
muralia | this patch was written way before we added things like plan name validation, port number validation and so many other things in the CLI | 21:20 |
devkulkarni | I think we should hold onto to the validation till we get the app resource | 21:20 |
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muralia | sure | 21:20 |
devkulkarni | muralia: what if we abandon this patch? | 21:20 |
muralia | I'm ok with abandoning this and creating a new patch | 21:20 |
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muralia | doing it now | 21:21 |
devkulkarni | no need to create a new one till we get the app resource in place | 21:21 |
muralia | done | 21:21 |
james_li | devkulkarni: +1 | 21:22 |
datsun180b | that makes sense | 21:22 |
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devkulkarni | akshayc: you around? | 21:22 |
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devkulkarni | looks like really bad connection adrian_otto | 21:23 |
adrian_otto | yeah, sorry about that | 21:23 |
devkulkarni | no worries.. | 21:23 |
devkulkarni | so we decided to abandon that patch which was doing API side validation for plans | 21:24 |
devkulkarni | we will pick the validation story once we have the app resource | 21:24 |
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adrian_otto | ok, should we advance to open discussion? | 21:24 |
devkulkarni | sure | 21:25 |
datsun180b | and i'd like to get back to that following my trigger changes | 21:25 |
adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:25 |
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devkulkarni | is gpilz around today? | 21:25 |
devkulkarni | looks like not.. | 21:25 |
adrian_otto | no, he is not | 21:26 |
devkulkarni | there were few camp related functional tests which were failing recently, so wanted to check with him if he had any suggestions | 21:26 |
adrian_otto | let me see if I can find him | 21:26 |
devkulkarni | or we can reach out to him on solum later | 21:26 |
gpilz | yo | 21:27 |
gpilz | sorry | 21:27 |
adrian_otto | aha! | 21:27 |
gpilz | I can look into those | 21:27 |
gpilz | do you want to get into it now? | 21:27 |
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adrian_otto | gpilz: do you know where to find what's troubling us? | 21:27 |
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adrian_otto | we are in open discussion, so if you have anything to share this is a good time for it | 21:27 |
devkulkarni | may be it was a false alarm.. | 21:28 |
muralia | gpliz: I was working on a new pluggable model for the keystone integration in Solum. | 21:28 |
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muralia | and I was adding support for keystone v2 upstream. this was making a few camp tests fail | 21:28 |
muralia | functional tests. | 21:28 |
gpilz | can I pick up what you have committed so far and see for myself? | 21:28 |
muralia | im not sure how to fix them, | 21:28 |
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muralia | sure, i'm still work on it, but theres a WIP patch out there | 21:29 |
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muralia | are camp tests enabled in our gates? | 21:29 |
devkulkarni | I think not | 21:29 |
gpilz | all the camp functional tests are no-ops if you don't enable camp | 21:29 |
gpilz | we put that in awhile ago | 21:29 |
muralia | do they run today? | 21:30 |
muralia | in our gates | 21:30 |
devkulkarni | no, they don't run on our gates | 21:30 |
muralia | ok | 21:30 |
mkam | I thought they were enabled by default | 21:31 |
muralia | in anycase, I'll ping you if I need help gpliz | 21:31 |
gpilz | okay | 21:31 |
mkam | https://github.com/stackforge/solum/blob/master/functionaltests/api/base.py#L61 | 21:31 |
devkulkarni | oh! may be you are right mkam | 21:31 |
devkulkarni | good catch mkam | 21:31 |
mkam | we can change that to false if we want :) | 21:32 |
gpilz | that's okay | 21:32 |
devkulkarni | okay to change it to False? | 21:32 |
gpilz | i'd rather know when CAMP breaks if that is okay | 21:32 |
gpilz | no | 21:32 |
devkulkarni | sure | 21:32 |
adrian_otto | another approach is to use a nonvoting gate for that | 21:32 |
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devkulkarni | lets see if gpilz and muralia can get to green tests.. | 21:33 |
adrian_otto | so you get an indication that it's busted, but it will not block a merge | 21:33 |
devkulkarni | if that happens then we won't have to change anything | 21:33 |
muralia | yes | 21:33 |
adrian_otto | but it's better to just have the tests enabled and working all the time | 21:33 |
adrian_otto | devkulkarni: +1 | 21:33 |
muralia | +1 | 21:33 |
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adrian_otto | ok, anything else to discuss today? | 21:34 |
adrian_otto | if not we can adjourn | 21:35 |
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devkulkarni | sounds good | 21:35 |
muralia | sure | 21:35 |
adrian_otto | great, thanks everyone for attending. | 21:35 |
devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 21:35 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 5 21:35:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-05-05-21.00.html | 21:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-05-05-21.00.txt | 21:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-05-05-21.00.log.html | 21:35 |
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adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue May 5 22:00:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
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adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-05-05_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:01 |
adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:01 |
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adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
tcammann_ | o/ | 22:01 |
Tango | Ton Ngo | 22:01 |
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juggler | o/ | 22:01 |
jay-lau-513 | jay-lau-513 | 22:01 |
hongbin | o/ | 22:01 |
rpothier | o/ | 22:01 |
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apmelton | o/ | 22:02 |
thomasem | o/ | 22:02 |
adrian_otto | hello tcammann, Tango, juggler, hongbin, rpothier, apmelton, and thomasem | 22:03 |
juggler | hey everyone | 22:03 |
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thomasem | howdy | 22:03 |
adrian_otto | hi jay-lau-513 | 22:03 |
juggler | no sdake today? | 22:03 |
adrian_otto | he's around | 22:03 |
juggler | :) | 22:03 |
adrian_otto | but his client is dicsonnected | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | he mentioned he had something he was heading out to do | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | ok, let's begin | 22:04 |
adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:04 |
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adrian_otto | 1) Reminder: Our IRC Meeting will be skipped on 2015-05-19 because we will be at the Vancouver Design Summit | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | 2) We now have a kilo-stable branch for magnum and python-magnumclient: | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/magnum,branches magnum branches | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/python-magnumclient,branches python-magnumclient branches | 22:05 |
adrian_otto | the purpose of this branch is to have a place to backport bugs | 22:05 |
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adrian_otto | if you try to put new features in that branch, or fix tech debt there, your patch shall be marked by a core reviewer with a -2 | 22:06 |
adrian_otto | all new features belong only in our master (Liberty) branch | 22:06 |
adrian_otto | any questions? | 22:06 |
juggler | i have a q | 22:06 |
adrian_otto | proceed juggler | 22:06 |
adrian_otto | I will also offer one more restriction | 22:06 |
juggler | so when I implement filed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1451678, should it go into branches? | 22:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1451678 in Magnum "Add link to dev-manual-devstack.rst into document dev-quickstart.rst" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to P Rivera (juggler) | 22:06 |
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adrian_otto | your bug must be triaged by a bug manager prior to merging any code in our kilo-stable branch | 22:07 |
adrian_otto | this is contrary to our policy for master | 22:07 |
juggler | cool. let me know where it needs to go! | 22:07 |
adrian_otto | where the bug can be opened, patched, and committed with no action by anyone but you | 22:07 |
adrian_otto | let me read the bug, one moment | 22:08 |
adrian_otto | a documentation bug like that belongs in *both* branches | 22:08 |
adrian_otto | so it will actually be two commits | 22:08 |
juggler | got it | 22:08 |
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adrian_otto | as we have no intent to ever merge kilo-stable back into master (liberty) | 22:08 |
adrian_otto | ok, any more questions? | 22:08 |
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juggler | thanks | 22:09 |
adrian_otto | ok, rule of thumb, if it's classified as a CRITICAL bug, it will get backported | 22:09 |
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adrian_otto | the lower priority levels are subject to discression | 22:09 |
adrian_otto | *discretion | 22:10 |
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adrian_otto | 3) We have tagged a 2015.1.0 release of magnum and python-magnumclient | 22:11 |
adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/openstack/magnum/releases/tag/2015.1.0 today's release | 22:11 |
adrian_otto | I plan to make an email announcement for this as well. | 22:11 |
adrian_otto | that concludes prepared announcements. Any announcements from team members? | 22:12 |
adrian_otto | ok, advancing topics | 22:12 |
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adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:12 |
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adrian_otto | any work items requiring team discussion today? | 22:12 |
adrian_otto | ok, advancing topics | 22:13 |
adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:13 |
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adrian_otto | I want to take a moment to point out how awesome our Kilo release was | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | 6 big features | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | 133 improvements and bug fixes | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | that's more than any open source release I have ever cut. | 22:14 |
juggler | excellent | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | well done team. The velocity here is really impressive | 22:14 |
adrian_otto | we now have 40 engineers who have contributed (commits) from 18 affiliations | 22:15 |
juggler | how's the progress on the room topics for the summit? | 22:15 |
adrian_otto | we have an etherpad we touched on last week: | 22:15 |
juggler | 40 engineers! | 22:16 |
adrian_otto | darn where did I put that URL, one sec, looking in logs | 22:16 |
juggler | etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-magnum-topics | 22:17 |
juggler | is that it? | 22:17 |
adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-magnum-topics Liberty Design Summit Topics | 22:17 |
adrian_otto | yes, thanks juggler | 22:17 |
juggler | np | 22:17 |
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juggler | offhand will anyone be recording one or more of those sessions? | 22:18 |
jay-lau-513 | juggler i cannot open this link | 22:18 |
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adrian_otto | I know the conference sessions will be recorded. I am not sure about the design sessions. | 22:18 |
jay-lau-513 | juggler an error occured while loading the page | 22:19 |
adrian_otto | possibly the fishbowls, but I doubt the workrooms | 22:19 |
juggler | jay: try adrian_otto's link | 22:19 |
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jay-lau-513 | juggler same error | 22:19 |
adrian_otto | let's land some votes next to the proposed topics | 22:19 |
jay-lau-513 | does anyone else can open the L topic link? | 22:20 |
juggler | jay: dunno...seems to work for adrian and I | 22:20 |
tcammann_ | works for me too | 22:20 |
jay-lau-513 | ok, let me switch a browser | 22:20 |
adrian_otto | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-magnum-topics is working for me | 22:21 |
jay-lau-513 | chrome working, thx | 22:21 |
adrian_otto | I see 10 people connected | 22:21 |
juggler | <--voting | 22:21 |
adrian_otto | juggler got creative with names! | 22:21 |
* adrian_otto chuckles | 22:22 | |
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apmelton | can lines 56 and 58 be combined? | 22:23 |
apmelton | they seem like the same talk worded differently | 22:23 |
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shhfeng | works for me, by chrome browser | 22:24 |
adrian_otto | I consolidated networking into the other topic | 22:25 |
adrian_otto | so I am going to move the other one to our workroom section | 22:25 |
apmelton | perhaps "Design for container-to-container networking" and "Networking / tenant network integration" could simply be a networking breakout session | 22:25 |
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apmelton | for reflecting as a team on what is learned in a fishbowl on networking? | 22:26 |
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adrian_otto | so we cover "next features" in a fishbowl | 22:27 |
adrian_otto | possibly breaking out networking into it's own… not sure yet | 22:27 |
juggler | adrian_otto lol, thanks! :) | 22:27 |
adrian_otto | then we take the feedback from that, and explore designs to meet those | 22:27 |
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adrian_otto | so we cover the topic twice, in the large and small room formats respectively | 22:27 |
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adrian_otto | apmelton: make sense? | 22:28 |
apmelton | yup | 22:28 |
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Tango | Any thought about storage yet? | 22:28 |
adrian_otto | Tango, let's put that up on the etherpad for sure | 22:29 |
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juggler | +1 Tango | 22:29 |
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adrian_otto | Tango, see "Storage Features". Any more detail that belongs in there? | 22:31 |
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jay-lau-513 | any thoughts for scheduler? I know that we want to use swarm to manage native docker cluster, do we need more discussion for this? | 22:31 |
jay-lau-513 | such as mesos as magnum scheduler? | 22:31 |
jay-lau-513 | or Gantt, seems Gantt is dead with slow progress | 22:31 |
adrian_otto | we definitely need a workroom for that one, jay-lau-513 | 22:32 |
tcammann_ | +1 | 22:32 |
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jay-lau-513 | another I want to mention is that shall we have some discussion for how to make magnum as a generic container-as-a-service just like nova does for IaaS. | 22:33 |
jay-lau-513 | end user do not need to care the backend but only submit request, the backend will provide container for user | 22:33 |
juggler | please observe the use of Metric system in the topic title "Magnum at 15 240 meters" :) | 22:33 |
jay-lau-513 | just like nova: user do not care what hypervisor they are using, just submit request to get vm/pm | 22:33 |
adrian_otto | jay-lau-513: I added "External Scheduler Support" for your consideration | 22:34 |
jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto cool | 22:34 |
tcammann_ | adrian_otto: Line 69 has "Design for Magnum Scheduler", could we combine those? | 22:35 |
tcammann_ | or are they signifcantly different enough | 22:35 |
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adrian_otto | tcammann: good catch. combined those | 22:36 |
juggler | Does the tenant network integration look like it go under some other main topic? | 22:36 |
juggler | hmm | 22:37 |
tcammann_ | A session on container snapshotting or imaging? | 22:37 |
thomasem | It will likely fall under the overlay network topic | 22:37 |
thomasem | since it's a similar concept | 22:37 |
tcammann_ | i.e. integration with glance | 22:37 |
adrian_otto | tcammann: Added to line 37 | 22:38 |
juggler | cool | 22:38 |
thomasem | I'd say that's the main concern with using overlay networks like Weave/Flannel | 22:38 |
thomasem | Those wouldn't work well with neutron tenant networks | 22:38 |
thomasem | afaict | 22:38 |
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thomasem | The concern from our last discussion being how confusing it'd be to have two completely separate isolated network solutions available in OpenStack when using Magnum | 22:39 |
adrian_otto | ok, I sorted the fishbowls by botes | 22:39 |
adrian_otto | *votes | 22:39 |
juggler | how's about racking and stacking the top +1s in the Workrooms, and subtopicing the lower top +1s as needed? | 22:39 |
adrian_otto | good idea. doing that now | 22:39 |
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juggler | just a thought: maybe put the contributing and Everything You Know stuff into the Plenary | 22:41 |
juggler | figure that people who want to learn about Magnum will attend the Plenary as an overview... | 22:42 |
juggler | that also whittles the # of topics in the fishbowls down to 4 | 22:43 |
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tcammann_ | Another note, we really need to fix the doc link in the main magnum README, it still 404s. | 22:47 |
tcammann_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1412380 | 22:47 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1412380 in Magnum "Magnum Documentation link report 404 error " [Medium,In progress] | 22:47 |
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jay-lau-513 | tcammann_ yes, it is the first link in Magnum README | 22:49 |
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adrian_otto | tcammann: good catch on bug 1412380 | 22:51 |
openstack | bug 1412380 in Magnum "Magnum Documentation link report 404 error " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412380 | 22:51 |
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jay-lau-513 | another is that can sdake share something for magnum&kolla integration, seems sdake is doing something for containzing magnum service | 22:52 |
adrian_otto | ok, so on the summit topics I think I have enough input from you to proceed with filling out the program | 22:52 |
adrian_otto | if you feel strongly that something has been missed, please contact me ASAP | 22:53 |
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adrian_otto | jay-lau-513: it might be more powerful to do that as a video and post it on our wiki page | 22:53 |
adrian_otto | prior to the summit | 22:53 |
jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto sure, this can make magnum installation more easier | 22:54 |
adrian_otto | well, as long as you have the right number of network ports and routable ip address ranges ;-) | 22:54 |
jay-lau-513 | exactly | 22:54 |
tcammann_ | does sound like a tricky setup, a video would be great | 22:55 |
adrian_otto | ok, let's wrap up for today | 22:55 |
adrian_otto | but first | 22:55 |
adrian_otto | how many of you have skills to make a really good screencast? | 22:55 |
adrian_otto | a good radio voice, and can record a demo? | 22:56 |
adrian_otto | if that sounds like you, let's coordinate to get a Magnum demo on video. | 22:56 |
Tango | what do you mean by screencast? | 22:57 |
adrian_otto | you record your screen giving a demo, with a voice-over. | 22:57 |
adrian_otto | but you do not appear on camera | 22:57 |
adrian_otto | make sense Tango? | 22:57 |
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Tango | ah ok, I can help with that, beendoing that a few times. | 22:57 |
adrian_otto | cool, I will PRVMSG you | 22:58 |
adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today | 22:58 |
Tango | someone can record the voice and I can dub over | 22:58 |
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adrian_otto | our next meeting is 2015-05-12 at 1600 UTC | 22:58 |
juggler | good seeing you all again | 22:58 |
adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:58 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 5 22:58:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:58 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-05-05-22.00.html | 22:58 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-05-05-22.00.txt | 22:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-05-05-22.00.log.html | 22:59 |
thomasem | cheers! | 22:59 |
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