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bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu May 14 15:00:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
cknight | Hi | 15:00 |
rraja | hi | 15:00 |
vponomaryov | hello | 15:00 |
markstur_ | hi | 15:00 |
bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
ganso_ | hello | 15:00 |
csaba | hi | 15:00 |
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weiting | hi | 15:00 |
Zhongjun | Hi | 15:00 |
bswartz | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:00 |
u_glide | hi | 15:01 |
bswartz | last meeting before summit! | 15:01 |
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toabctl | hi | 15:01 |
bswartz | in case it's not obvious, next week's IRC meeting is cancelled | 15:01 |
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lpabon_phone | hi | 15:02 |
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bswartz | I won't see you all in Vancouver but I will attempt to join all of the manila session remotely | 15:04 |
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lpabon_phone | cool | 15:04 |
bswartz | okay first topic | 15:04 |
bswartz | #topic Whether Manila should allow to create "shares" from "snapshots" with different "share networks" or not? And why? | 15:04 |
bswartz | err | 15:04 |
bswartz | #topic Whether Manila should allow to create shares from snapshots with different share networks | 15:04 |
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bswartz | I seem to be getting IRC lag, or else the bot is | 15:04 |
lpabon_phone | to discuss here or is this a session at the summit? | 15:04 |
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bswartz | to discuss today | 15:04 |
vponomaryov | there is no such session | 15:04 |
bswartz | the summit sessions are finalized | 15:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Whether Manila should allow to create "shares" from "snapshots" with different "share networks" or not? And why? (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
*** openstack changes topic to "Whether Manila should allow to create shares from snapshots with different share networks (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
vponomaryov | do we have at least one backend that can support it except generic driver? | 15:04 |
bswartz | there we go! | 15:04 |
vponomaryov | support different share networks/share servers for shares created from snapshots | 15:05 |
lpabon_phone | ganesha maybe? | 15:05 |
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xyang1 | Hi | 15:05 |
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vponomaryov | ganeshare does not support share severs | 15:05 |
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vponomaryov | s/ganeshare/ganesha/ | 15:05 |
bswartz | NetApp could support that, with a significant change to our driver | 15:05 |
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lpabon_phone | who is asking for this feature? | 15:06 |
vponomaryov | for the moment, such possibility restricted by Manila API | 15:06 |
bswartz | I think a more interesting question to as is whether there's a valid use case for it | 15:06 |
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bswartz | without that ability, your shares would be attached to their original share network forever | 15:07 |
lpabon_phone | maybe we should wait for a use case? | 15:07 |
markstur_ | If we add "clone" and "migrate" then the use cases open up a bit and something like this can be done | 15:07 |
vponomaryov | bswartz: use case definitely exist - usage of separate network for cloned share | 15:07 |
bswartz | yeah I can see creating a share with a share network one day | 15:07 |
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bswartz | and filling it up with data | 15:09 |
bswartz | then some time later deciding you want that share to be in a different share network | 15:09 |
bswartz | cloning it would be a reasonable way to achieve that, but only if we allow creating share in new share networks | 15:09 |
bswartz | I think this feature is something we should allow, but we need to know if it will break any drivers that currently support share servers | 15:09 |
lpabon_phone | we probably need to put that on the mailing list | 15:09 |
xyang2 | bswartz: without changes in the current driver, it will likely to break it | 15:10 |
bswartz | xyang isn't here | 15:10 |
xyang2 | bswartz: I know | 15:10 |
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vponomaryov | =) | 15:10 |
xyang2 | bswartz: just saying drivers need to be modified to support it | 15:10 |
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vponomaryov | xyang2, bswartz: so, we have only driver-update restriction, and backends do support such case? | 15:11 |
vponomaryov | like creation of additional logical interfaces for vservers in case of netapp driver? | 15:12 |
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lpabon_phone | I have to check with csaba to see how this would affect gluster drivers | 15:14 |
vponomaryov | lpabon_phone: nohow, because share servers are not supported with gluster drivers | 15:15 |
vponomaryov | lpabon_phone: hence, none of share networks will be used | 15:15 |
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bswartz | hi | 15:16 |
bswartz | is anyone still here? | 15:16 |
vponomaryov | yes | 15:17 |
u_glide | yes | 15:17 |
ganso_ | yes | 15:17 |
xyang2 | yes | 15:17 |
bswartz | okay apparently I was just talking to myself for 5 minutes | 15:17 |
bswartz | don't know why IRC is acting funny | 15:17 |
vponomaryov | nice | 15:17 |
bswartz | what was the last thing that came through? | 15:17 |
toabctl | 17:10:15 bswartz xyang isn't here | 15:17 |
vponomaryov | (18:10:14) bswartz: xyang isn't here | 15:17 |
bswartz | okay | 15:18 |
bswartz | then I noticed she is | 15:18 |
xyang2 | :) | 15:18 |
bswartz | xyang1: do you have any idea if this feature could be supported on your drivers? | 15:18 |
bswartz | markstur_: clone is something we want to add, but it would be defined as semantically equivalent to: create snapshot, create share from snapshot, delete snapshot -- just more efficient | 15:18 |
xyang2 | bswartz: I'll have to check | 15:18 |
bswartz | okay | 15:18 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: let's start a ML thread on this topic | 15:18 |
vponomaryov | ok | 15:19 |
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bswartz | I think we should do it, and give any driver maintainers a chance to figure out if they can or can't implement it | 15:19 |
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bswartz | and discuss on the ML | 15:19 |
bswartz | if nobody replies, then we can just go ahead and make the API more flexible | 15:19 |
xyang2 | bswartz: sounds good, I'll investigate | 15:20 |
bswartz | if/when we do implement it, we should make sure that any problems created get bugs filed so we can track if all drivers implement it correctly by the end of the release | 15:20 |
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bswartz | there's a lot of time left though, so this is a great time to try something new | 15:21 |
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bswartz | okay next topic | 15:21 |
bswartz | #topic Share extend - disruptive operation? | 15:21 |
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bswartz | so we discussed share resize (extend and shrink) at the midcycle, and u_glide has been doing implementation of the extend part | 15:22 |
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u_glide | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182383/ | 15:22 |
bswartz | we noticed that some backends can resize a share without causing disruptions, but others might only be able to do it disruptively | 15:22 |
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bswartz | I wanted to discuss how we should handle this | 15:23 |
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bswartz | do we just document that extending a share may cause a brief loss of connectivity? | 15:23 |
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ganso_ | bswartz: Shouldn't mount automation mitigate this problem? | 15:24 |
bswartz | ganso_: no | 15:24 |
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xyang2 | bswartz: we should probably disable it by default so that user is aware of it? | 15:25 |
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bswartz | many backends will implement a share size as simply a quota value | 15:25 |
bswartz | changing a quota value doesn't need to disrupt client access to their share, and it shouldn't in those cases | 15:25 |
vponomaryov | generic driver does not satisfy such criterion | 15:26 |
bswartz | yes, generic is one driver that needs to do some disruptive changes to alter the share size | 15:26 |
bswartz | I'm not sure how many other there are | 15:27 |
bswartz | If most drivers can do this non disruptively, then I feel comfortable just documenting that certain drivers may cause brief outage during share resize | 15:27 |
bswartz | if a majority are going to have problems though, then we should take more care | 15:28 |
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bswartz | this might be another case where we need to poll driver maintainers on the ML | 15:28 |
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bswartz | xyang2: I don't like disabling it by default because it kind of defeats the value of adding the feature | 15:30 |
bswartz | resize is something users should be able to rely on having access to | 15:30 |
xyang2 | bswartz: ok, I think we have to the results of the poll | 15:30 |
bswartz | at least resizing larger | 15:30 |
bswartz | resizing smaller is always trickier | 15:30 |
bswartz | so that may be a truly optional feature | 15:31 |
xyang2 | bswartz: resize larger is usually not a problem. do we want support shrinking too? | 15:31 |
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bswartz | xyang2: I think we should introduce shrink as an optional driver feature | 15:31 |
bswartz | it's valuable and many drivers can support it | 15:31 |
xyang2 | bswartz: ok | 15:31 |
bswartz | but there may be some where it's near impossible, so it makes more sense to make it optional | 15:31 |
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bswartz | I'm pretty sure everyone can increase size, even if it's disruptive operation only | 15:32 |
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bswartz | okay and one last topic from me | 15:32 |
bswartz | #topic 3rd party vendor CI | 15:32 |
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bswartz | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064086.html | 15:32 |
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bswartz | I started a ML thread yesterday | 15:33 |
bswartz | that is my proposal for how we should do 3rd party vendor CI | 15:33 |
bswartz | the TLDR version is that by liberty-rc1 all the drivers would need working CI system, similar to cinder | 15:34 |
bswartz | otherwise we would remove the drivers | 15:34 |
bswartz | I'm open to debate on the specifics -- I don't want the mandate to come from me only, I want the community to agree on what we want | 15:34 |
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bswartz | please respond to the ML thread soon though if you have an opinion | 15:35 |
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bswartz | I'd like to have the plan agreed to by the summit next week so we can tell people what they need to do during liberty | 15:36 |
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toabctl | bswartz: works :) | 15:36 |
vponomaryov | its alive | 15:36 |
ganso_ | no, it is not :) | 15:36 |
bswartz | ok | 15:36 |
bswartz | y'all are so quiet... | 15:36 |
markstur_ | just waking up | 15:37 |
bswartz | so I won't review the whole plan here, please read it though | 15:37 |
bswartz | I proposed several intermediate deadlines | 15:37 |
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bswartz | if we agree on them, I'll start implementing them after summit | 15:37 |
xyang2 | bswartz: one suggestion I have is to publish the list of driver status early | 15:37 |
xyang2 | bswartz: don't do it on the day of removal:) | 15:38 |
bswartz | xyang2: yeah I don't plan to keep anything secret | 15:38 |
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bswartz | that was one thing mike did that I didn't agree with | 15:39 |
toabctl | we could track the progress and responsible persons on a wiki page or so | 15:39 |
xyang2 | wiki sounds good | 15:39 |
bswartz | step one is to list the drivers that will need CI and get contact info for the maintainers | 15:39 |
bswartz | once we have that, we can keep all relevant details about them on the same wiki | 15:39 |
bswartz | so if anyone is NOT meeting deadlines, we can simply note it there and there won't be any surprises | 15:40 |
markstur_ | Might need to clarify how this affects new drivers getting merged while working on CI, or not. | 15:40 |
xyang2 | I know there is already a 3rd party wiki, but we should still have one for manila ourselves | 15:40 |
bswartz | markstur_: good point I didn't consider that | 15:40 |
bswartz | my first instinct is to say that any new driver is subject to the same requirements | 15:40 |
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bswartz | even if the driver itself doesn't merge until the week before L-3 | 15:40 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: what about drivers that do not support required features? | 15:41 |
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vponomaryov | bswartz: it should be nailed before | 15:41 |
xyang2 | vponomaryov: that is a good question | 15:41 |
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bswartz | if the new driver doesn't have CI by rc1 we would just remove it until it does | 15:41 |
xyang2 | do we have minimal requirements | 15:41 |
bswartz | vponomaryov: another excellent point | 15:41 |
bswartz | so we will need to define the minimum features, and make sure those are covered by tempest tests -- then the tempest tests become the qualification suite that decides if the driver supports the features or not | 15:42 |
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cknight | bswartz: +1 | 15:42 |
bswartz | and features that are defined to be optional must have tempest tests that can be skippable | 15:42 |
u_glide | and we should clean up contrib dir in manila api | 15:43 |
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xyang2 | bswartz: and define them clearly in the wiki | 15:43 |
bswartz | u_glide: yes that's a topic for the design summit | 15:43 |
bswartz | at least the mechanism is, not defining the minimum feature set | 15:43 |
bswartz | I think defining the minimum feature set will be a topic for after the summit | 15:44 |
cknight | bswartz: we can set up a wiki listing minimum driver features. Cinder has one: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderSupportMatrix | 15:44 |
bswartz | cknight: yes | 15:44 |
xyang2 | cknight: +1 | 15:44 |
toabctl | +1 | 15:44 |
vponomaryov | u_glide: +1, all reguired features should be "core" APIs in manila | 15:44 |
bswartz | cknight: fwiw the cinder team doesn't like that wiki though -- they wish there was a page that was automatically generated | 15:44 |
bswartz | because it's possible to lie on a wiki page | 15:45 |
bswartz | okay so please add those notes to the ML thread | 15:46 |
bswartz | about new drivers and about minimum features | 15:46 |
bswartz | #topic open discussion | 15:46 |
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bswartz | anything else? | 15:47 |
cknight | Summit etherpads are linked for the Manila sessions. | 15:47 |
cknight | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Liberty/Etherpads#Manila | 15:47 |
bswartz | oh yes | 15:47 |
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bswartz | I'll add some notes to all of these | 15:47 |
bswartz | thank cknight for creating them | 15:47 |
toabctl | there is the CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:48 |
toabctl | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:48 |
xyang2 | cknight: YVR? | 15:48 |
bswartz | btw since we will have some people remote during the design summit (including me) capturing notes in the etherpad will be very important | 15:48 |
bswartz | YVR = vancouver airport code | 15:48 |
cknight | xyang1: Not my choice, *all* etherpads have that. | 15:48 |
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xyang2 | ok | 15:48 |
bswartz | it seems to be the convention everyone is using | 15:48 |
bswartz | toabctl: what about cross project liasons? | 15:49 |
toabctl | bswartz: the fields for manila are empty | 15:49 |
bswartz | toabctl: would you like to volunteer? | 15:49 |
toabctl | bswartz: I wanted but I can't attend the oslo meetings at monday. | 15:49 |
bswartz | I know you've done a bunch of great work increasing our integration with oslo | 15:49 |
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bswartz | how essential are the monday meetings? | 15:50 |
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bswartz | I don't think anyone will be attending those meetings from Manila if you aren't | 15:51 |
toabctl | bswartz: no idea. If nobody complains I can add myself to the oslo list | 15:51 |
toabctl | even without attending the oslo meetings. | 15:51 |
bswartz | toabctl: I'd be happy for you to be the liason -- I can't think of a better candidate | 15:51 |
toabctl | bswartz: ok. great | 15:52 |
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cknight | toabctl: Thanks! | 15:52 |
bswartz | toabctl: hopefully you know someone who can fill you in on those meetings if you have to miss them | 15:53 |
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bswartz | cross project concerns are very important and we have a challenge being such a distributed team -- we don't all get as plugged into other projects or to the conferences in general | 15:53 |
bswartz | It's all I can do to stay on top of what's going on in Cinder and Manila | 15:54 |
bswartz | okay any last things | 15:54 |
csaba | bswartz: can I bring up our kilo backport case? | 15:55 |
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bswartz | csaba: sure | 15:55 |
csaba | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1447692 | 15:55 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1447692 in Manila "glusterfs_native breaks multibackend" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Ramana Raja (rraja) | 15:55 |
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csaba | recall it's special in two ways: | 15:55 |
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bswartz | csaba: I thought there were 2 patchsets | 15:56 |
csaba | -that the fix should be backported is known but it was held back because of an issue we thought there is with the fix | 15:56 |
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csaba | -the fix for this one was submitted for another bug | 15:56 |
bswartz | "n issue we thought there is" -- was that assessment wrong? | 15:56 |
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bswartz | when this fix went into master we decided not to backport it because there was still a problem with it | 15:57 |
csaba | this is the fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174418/ and this is the bug we thought we intereferes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1448029 | 15:57 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1448029 in Manila "glusterfs_native: able to create multiple shares with identical glusterfs volume as backend" [Undecided,Invalid] | 15:57 |
csaba | now that bug is resolved to invalid | 15:57 |
csaba | bswartz: yes | 15:57 |
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csaba | so that problem is moot, so the backport can get a green light | 15:58 |
bswartz | okay so your proposal is to backport the one change and we can expect that to solve all issues related to glusterfs in kilo with and without multibackend? | 15:58 |
csaba | )on the bug entry, comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1447692/comments/1 refers to the fix) | 15:59 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1447692 in Manila "glusterfs_native breaks multibackend" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Ramana Raja (rraja) | 15:59 |
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csaba | bswartz: exactly | 15:59 |
bswartz | have you already pressed the cherry pick button? | 15:59 |
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bswartz | if not, go ahead and we'll review it for stable/kilo | 15:59 |
csaba | bswartz: I have not yet heard of the cherry pick button :) | 15:59 |
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csaba | you mean it's agerrit feature? | 15:59 |
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bswartz | I've already sent a note out to core team members about what the requirements are for merging something into the stable branch | 16:00 |
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bswartz | csaba: log into gerrit, it's right next to the review/revert/abandon buttons | 16:00 |
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bswartz | that's the "easy button" way to backport stuff | 16:00 |
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bswartz | okay we're out of time | 16:00 |
csaba | ah OK, thanks, I'll do... | 16:00 |
bswartz | I wish all of you safe travels if you're headed to vancouver | 16:01 |
cknight | bswartz: +1 | 16:01 |
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bswartz | we will meet up on IRC in 2 weeks | 16:01 |
cknight | See everyone there. | 16:01 |
toabctl | see you | 16:01 |
bswartz | expect some more ML traffic related to the other 2 topics from this meeting | 16:01 |
bswartz | thanks everyone | 16:01 |
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bswartz | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 14 16:01:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-05-14-15.00.html | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-05-14-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2015/manila.2015-05-14-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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kozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu May 14 16:03:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:03 |
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kozhukalov | #chair kozhukalov | 16:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: kozhukalov | 16:03 |
mihgen | hi | 16:03 |
angdraug | o/ | 16:03 |
prmtl | hi | 16:03 |
kozhukalov | agenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:03 |
kozhukalov | hey everyone | 16:03 |
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kozhukalov | who else is here? | 16:04 |
kozhukalov | 4 people? is it enough? | 16:04 |
rmoe | hi | 16:04 |
mihgen | everyone is working on bugs.. | 16:05 |
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kozhukalov | mihgen: i hope so | 16:05 |
zigo | hi | 16:05 |
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IvanKliuk | hi | 16:05 |
kozhukalov | ok, i've poked some other guys | 16:05 |
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kozhukalov | let's start | 16:05 |
mwhahaha | hi | 16:05 |
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ogelbukh | kozhukalov: _o/ | 16:05 |
kozhukalov | #topic pkgs-version of fuel-library tests on Fuel CI | 16:05 |
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kozhukalov | who was that guy who added this topic to agenda? | 16:06 |
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barthalion | lol | 16:06 |
alex_didenko | hi | 16:06 |
kozhukalov | aglarendil: around? | 16:06 |
barthalion | aglarendil maybe? | 16:06 |
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aglarendil | hi, folks | 16:08 |
salmon_ | hi | 16:08 |
aglarendil | we switched CI to using packages | 16:08 |
aglarendil | for library | 16:08 |
aglarendil | all is fine | 16:08 |
aglarendil | except there is an issue with dependent commits | 16:08 |
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aglarendil | if you have a chain of commits it will not be correctly checked out | 16:08 |
aglarendil | we are working on the solution right now | 16:08 |
zigo | aglarendil: Do you mean a "git review -r" thing? | 16:08 |
aglarendil | ETA - end of day | 16:08 |
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aglarendil | zigo: when we prepare package source we do cherry-pick of the latest commit instead of checkout | 16:09 |
angdraug | zigo: you mean git review -d right? | 16:09 |
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zigo | angdraug: no | 16:09 |
zigo | :) | 16:09 |
aglarendil | angdraug: we do not do git-review -d on our slaves | 16:09 |
aglarendil | so far the root cause is known - we will do our best to fix it | 16:10 |
aglarendil | until then, please be very careful with code review | 16:10 |
kozhukalov | aglarendil: do we pack all puppet modules into a single package? or every modules in a separate package? | 16:10 |
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aglarendil | kozhukalov: the whole fuel library into one pacakge | 16:11 |
aglarendil | *package | 16:11 |
aglarendil | some binary files are put into separate packages for sake of easier update | 16:12 |
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kozhukalov | ok, great, im wondering because otherwise we'd be forced to test packages compatibility | 16:13 |
kozhukalov | ok, if there are no more q here, then moving on | 16:13 |
kozhukalov | aglarendil: thanks for the info | 16:14 |
kozhukalov | #topic results table on Fuel CI | 16:14 |
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bookwar | hi | 16:14 |
bookwar | We've enabled the "pretty messages on Fuel CI", here is the example of the results https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182866/ | 16:14 |
bookwar | But there are some comments.. | 16:14 |
bookwar | If you send new patchset, results from the previous one are not cleaned from the results table. Thus it happens that table shows results but there is no actual vote from Fuel CI yet, because new set of tests is in progress. | 16:14 |
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bookwar | So when you merge stuff, you should check that there is a _vote_ from Fuel CI. Just looking at the table with result is not enough | 16:15 |
kozhukalov | is this message from the patch is going to be pretty fdsjakfklasdjlfjasjdfkljasdlfkljasdkljflajlsdkf ? -) | 16:15 |
bookwar | kozhukalov: ? | 16:16 |
kozhukalov | im kidding | 16:16 |
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kozhukalov | about the example patch | 16:16 |
bookwar | i need you to tink about this issue and tell me if it is ok or is it critical and we should revert the change | 16:17 |
bookwar | think* | 16:17 |
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mihgen | bookwar: any way to resolve it? | 16:17 |
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mihgen | to make UX better? | 16:17 |
mihgen | may be some quick test would create a table or smth | 16:18 |
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bookwar | no easy way currently, i am investigating the issue, but there won't be fix available in this or next week | 16:18 |
zigo | bookwar: Could you add a breakout game when we click on the most top-right pixel ? | 16:19 |
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angdraug | moving on? | 16:19 |
kozhukalov | yes | 16:19 |
bookwar | ok, so, core reviewers, please take care of the Fuel CI vote, and ket's move on | 16:19 |
kozhukalov | bookwar: thanks | 16:20 |
kozhukalov | #topic networking discussions in Mountain View - short update (mihgen) | 16:20 |
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kozhukalov | mihgen: typing? | 16:21 |
mihgen | sorry folks | 16:21 |
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mihgen | yeah, we spent some time discussing networking roadmap for 7.0 | 16:21 |
mihgen | major thing discussed was support of multi-rack deployments | 16:22 |
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mihgen | I can't share many details in here, so we will be getting data in blueprints. Shortly speaking though, there are a few things of interest: | 16:22 |
mihgen | a) our users want not to have floating IPs to be assigned on compute hosts, as it's believed as security problem | 16:23 |
mihgen | or controllers. so that leads to the requirement of having separate set of nodes where floatings would be translated into private using NAT | 16:24 |
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kozhukalov | kinda DMZ? | 16:24 |
mihgen | it's not like fully supported by neutron at the moment and further research is needed, especially if we want to have access in HA fashion | 16:24 |
xarses | dedicated l3-agent nodes like in 3.0 | 16:25 |
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salmon_ | mihgen: are there any plans to move network configuration out of nailgun? | 16:25 |
mihgen | salmon_: depends on what exacactly to move | 16:25 |
kozhukalov | salmon_: to neutron for example, right? | 16:25 |
sc68cal | mihgen: when you were in mtn vw did you speak with Neutron SMEs like kevinbenton ? | 16:26 |
mihgen | there is plan that your plugin / role defined would be able to provide metadata what network roles required | 16:26 |
salmon_ | kozhukalov: no :) | 16:26 |
mihgen | check out this document: | 16:26 |
mihgen | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QVoexrDF_MS92IZd4jnwPWQDxTAWMzUUrcMyu8VjGF4 | 16:26 |
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mihgen | this is about flexibility we have to make anyway regardless of multi-rack support | 16:26 |
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mihgen | nailgun should be able to reserve N VIP IP addresses, where N is defined by particular role | 16:27 |
salmon_ | mihgen: well, all network related stuff. As I remember this futures were discussed before 4.0 but it was hard to refactor nailgun part. | 16:27 |
xarses | sc68cal: I've been talking with kevinbenton about these after we get some kind of direction from the group | 16:27 |
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sc68cal | xarses: ok, I can also assist | 16:27 |
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mihgen | salmon_: if we move _all_ network related stuff out of nailgun, how would you provide network settings on the UI then? | 16:28 |
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mihgen | I believe we still want nailgun to be owner of networking information and help to provide network objects data for partucular roles | 16:28 |
salmon_ | mihgen: for UI it doesn't matter to which service it's connecting | 16:28 |
mihgen | salmon_: do you want separate service? | 16:29 |
mihgen | like other python service? | 16:29 |
salmon_ | mihgen: yup, which is focused only on network things. | 16:29 |
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mihgen | to make it clear, the discussion we had was purely about architecture, and we didn't focus on partucular nailgun/puppet implementation | 16:30 |
kozhukalov | mihgen: probably we can move network stuff into a separate service and nailgun or even UI itself will interact with this service via API | 16:30 |
salmon_ | mihgen: ok, I see | 16:30 |
mihgen | salmon_: might be good idea, I'd like to know some more details | 16:30 |
mihgen | so among other things discussed | 16:30 |
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salmon_ | mihgen: ok, I will send an email | 16:31 |
xarses | salmon_: I'd like to get a list of issues from you. I think after we rebuild nailgun parts for granular network function, and better multiple-cluster-networks support most of the issues with network manager will be resolved | 16:31 |
mihgen | how we would connect different L3 networks between racks, for underlay (mgmt net, other) | 16:31 |
mihgen | and the conclusion was that we better go ahead with ospf of bgp routing protocols to support it | 16:31 |
mihgen | vxlan between racks for underlay doesn't seem to be scalable solution | 16:32 |
mihgen | though for neutron tenants we believe that vxlan is the option | 16:32 |
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mihgen | that's pretty much it for high level things | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | mihgen: thanks for this update | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | moving on | 16:33 |
kozhukalov | #topic ruby 2.1 retrospective results https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-6.1-ruby21-retrospective (angdraug) | 16:33 |
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angdraug | we had a retrospective on the Ruby 2.1 problem earlier today: | 16:34 |
angdraug | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1403088 | 16:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1403088 in Fuel for OpenStack 6.1.x "CentOS repository contains ruby conflicts - unable to run yum update plainly" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Artem Silenkov (asilenkov) | 16:34 |
angdraug | the prevention plan: | 16:34 |
angdraug | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-6.1-ruby21-retrospective | 16:34 |
angdraug | key decisions: | 16:34 |
angdraug | starting in 7.0, we'll stop bypassing packaging pipeline for any reason | 16:34 |
angdraug | packages with the same name and different version (such as ruby 1.8 and 2.1) are not allowed | 16:34 |
angdraug | reference to commits from which package was built in its changelog will be mandatory: | 16:34 |
angdraug | #link https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-specs/blob/master/specs/6.1/separate-mos-from-linux.rst#debian-package-metadata | 16:34 |
angdraug | when a release (6.1) is finalized for GA, | 16:34 |
angdraug | all commits on that release branch in all packages that are not present on the branch for next release (7.0) | 16:34 |
angdraug | are automatically detected and reported | 16:34 |
angdraug | and then manually rebased onto new release branch (rebase form 6.1 onto 7.0) | 16:34 |
angdraug | this will trigger rebuild of all affected packages for new release | 16:34 |
angdraug | we still need to come up with a way to detect deprecated packages such as ruby-mysql | 16:34 |
angdraug | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/6.1.x/+bug/1415950 | 16:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 6 in Launchpad itself ""next 10 entries" at bottom of page" [Medium,Invalid] - Assigned to Carlos Perelló MarÃn (carlos) | 16:34 |
angdraug | dixi | 16:34 |
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angdraug | ideas on identifying deprecated (no longer required) packages are welcome :) | 16:34 |
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angdraug | questions? | 16:35 |
xarses | does this not address any issues other than the deprecated? | 16:36 |
angdraug | it does | 16:36 |
xarses | so with ruby, we dont allow 1.8 and 2.1 | 16:36 |
angdraug | actually, both trusty and centos7 have ruby2.0 | 16:36 |
xarses | doe that mean we wont have ruby-1.8 and ruby21-0? | 16:36 |
angdraug | so in 7.0, ruby 2.0 is the only one we're going to have | 16:37 |
kozhukalov | angdraug: thanks | 16:37 |
kozhukalov | is there anything else here? any other q? | 16:38 |
kozhukalov | moving on? | 16:38 |
angdraug | yup | 16:38 |
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kozhukalov | #topic fuel-createmirror vs fuel-package-updates | 16:38 |
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kozhukalov | actually I added this topic | 16:39 |
angdraug | mattymo: can you sum up the current plan? | 16:39 |
kozhukalov | but I don't know much on this | 16:39 |
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kozhukalov | mattymo: around? | 16:39 |
mattymo | I'm sorry, I actually need to leave the office this minute | 16:39 |
kozhukalov | or brain386? | 16:39 |
angdraug | #link https://etherpad.mirantis.net/p/Fuel_mirroring | 16:39 |
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mattymo | Please let Vitaly P carry on | 16:39 |
kozhukalov | ok, mattymo we will | 16:40 |
kozhukalov | looks like Vitaly is not here | 16:40 |
angdraug | I pinged him privately, lets move on and try to get back to this later if we have time | 16:40 |
kozhukalov | ok moving on then | 16:40 |
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kozhukalov | #topic OS for the Fuel master node in 7.0 (CentOS 7 vs Kilo Keystone et al & Python 2.7) (angdraug) | 16:41 |
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angdraug | I added this one | 16:41 |
angdraug | we have a wrinkle in our Linux strategy for 7.0 | 16:41 |
angdraug | we use Keystone and other openstack components on the master node | 16:41 |
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angdraug | which means that in 7.0 & Kilo, we need Python 2.7 on the master node | 16:42 |
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angdraug | which means that leaving CentOS 6.5 on Fuel master node isn't a viable option | 16:42 |
maximov | we can keep old version of keystone | 16:42 |
kozhukalov | are we going to move to Centos 7? or debian? | 16:42 |
maximov | on master node | 16:42 |
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angdraug | this means that we'll have to support 3 distros instead of 2: | 16:43 |
rvyalov | angdraug: we use keystone in docker , we can change os in docker to the Ubuntu ? | 16:43 |
mihgen | I would not care about update of keystone on master unless it's totally necessary | 16:43 |
angdraug | 1) ubuntu + kilo | 16:43 |
salmon_ | it's not | 16:43 |
barthalion | we can also use centos7 only for keystone container | 16:43 |
angdraug | 2) centos7 + kilo targeted for 7.1 | 16:43 |
angdraug | 3) centos6 + juno for master node | 16:43 |
mihgen | don't take that far, angdraug | 16:43 |
mihgen | centos7 + kilo = you'd get keystone kilo on master at that moment | 16:44 |
mihgen | so you can eliminate #3 | 16:44 |
salmon_ | mihgen: we are building keystone from library manifests. If we update manifests keystone will update automaticly | 16:44 |
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xarses | barthalion: will the keystone client support python 2.6? | 16:44 |
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mihgen | in general we have to figure out a way not to depend on chiken - egg problem | 16:45 |
xarses | because now we have both nailgun and fuelclient using the keystone client lib | 16:45 |
mihgen | and being able to always use whatever version of component we wnat | 16:45 |
salmon_ | keystone-client supports: py26,py27,py33,py34 | 16:45 |
angdraug | right now, mos team's kilo work is blocked until we have a solution | 16:45 |
angdraug | despite what you may think I am not biased to any particular solution, as long as we all agree on one | 16:46 |
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barthalion | do we have packaging CI for centos7? | 16:46 |
angdraug | yes | 16:46 |
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barthalion | so centos7-based container for keystone makes sense to me, but I'm probably too tired to see serious flaws of this | 16:47 |
mihgen | sounds like we need to identify right folks to discuss this issue, and follow up separately.. | 16:47 |
angdraug | mihgen: +1 | 16:47 |
mihgen | we need to indentify just an optimal solution here and duscuss overall strategy for similar cases in the future | 16:48 |
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mihgen | whom would we need to discuss it? | 16:48 |
angdraug | Mikhail Semenov (MOS Linux) and Dmitry Mescheryakov (MOS) | 16:48 |
mihgen | mos-keystone team (lead), angdraug - you, anyone else? | 16:48 |
xarses | docker people | 16:48 |
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mihgen | docker ppl is mattymo first of all here I think, for deployment part | 16:49 |
mihgen | take a note that mattymo is gonna be gone for the design summit next week | 16:49 |
kozhukalov | ok, look like we can move on | 16:50 |
angdraug | brain461 is here now | 16:50 |
mihgen | action item first | 16:50 |
mihgen | maximov: can you take it and organize meeting? | 16:50 |
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kozhukalov | brain461: could you please give us some update about merging fuel-createmirror with fuel-package-updates? | 16:51 |
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angdraug | kozhukalov: topic? | 16:51 |
maximov | yes, I will | 16:51 |
kozhukalov | #action angdraug intiates discussion about Centos 7 + kilo on the master node | 16:52 |
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brain461 | I've added calls to fuel-package-updates script, but it looks like in case of creating a partial mirror script replaces repos in a wrong format | 16:52 |
kozhukalov | #topic fuel-createmirror vs fuel-package-updates | 16:52 |
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kozhukalov | brain461> I've added calls to fuel-package-updates script, but it looks like in case of creating a partial mirror script replaces repos in a wrong format | 16:52 |
kozhukalov | just repeating | 16:53 |
brain461 | also, in case of partial repo there should be only one repo used instead of base+updates+security - as it combines all of them | 16:53 |
brain461 | but script cannot delete repos, just replaces their URIs | 16:53 |
brain461 | this needs to be fixed, otherwise we cannot use it for partial repo case (which is the default) | 16:54 |
kozhukalov | brain461: ok, thanks | 16:55 |
kozhukalov | #action maximov intiates discussion about Centos 7 + kilo on the master node | 16:56 |
kozhukalov | moving on | 16:56 |
kozhukalov | #topic Dynamically creating rabbitmq exchanges, aka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1445359 | 16:56 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 1445359 in Fuel for OpenStack "Nailgun expects exchanges to be setup by puppet" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Fuel Python Team (fuel-python) | 16:56 |
zigo | Is there anyone working on this? | 16:56 |
zigo | That's a blocker for me ... | 16:56 |
angdraug | not right now I assume | 16:57 |
kozhukalov | looks like no one | 16:57 |
angdraug | everyone is fixing High & Critical bugs for 6.1 | 16:57 |
mihgen | wait a sec | 16:57 |
angdraug | once 6.1 is out, we should get back to this | 16:57 |
zigo | Yeah, so I've been waiting for months ... | 16:57 |
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zigo | Ok. | 16:57 |
mihgen | I remember this one | 16:57 |
mihgen | you'd find vsharshov to discuss it | 16:57 |
mihgen | we had very weird issue with exchanges before | 16:57 |
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angdraug | weird == something we don't understand | 16:58 |
mihgen | which was that nailgun/astute would fail in attempt to create exchange as I remember as it claimed that it was created before with other settings | 16:58 |
angdraug | never a good excuse to not fix something ) | 16:58 |
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mihgen | it was not really clear who creates it | 16:58 |
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mihgen | then there was attempt to create it first in puppet with same settings | 16:59 |
kozhukalov | 1 minutes | 16:59 |
mihgen | probably it's still there from that time | 16:59 |
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mihgen | just find vsharshov to find out where we are with this | 16:59 |
angdraug | zigo: irc nick is warpc | 16:59 |
kozhukalov | time | 16:59 |
zigo | ok, will do | 17:00 |
zigo | thanks. | 17:00 |
kozhukalov | there is another topic Fix pfctl bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1454691 (sc68cal) | 17:00 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1454691 in Fuel for OpenStack "firewall script fails to run multiple times" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Serhiy Ovsianikov (sovsianikov) | 17:00 |
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kozhukalov | let's discuss this in fuel-dev | 17:00 |
* zigo is off now | 17:00 | |
kozhukalov | thanks everyone for attending | 17:00 |
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kozhukalov | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 14 17:00:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-05-14-16.03.html | 17:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-05-14-16.03.txt | 17:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-05-14-16.03.log.html | 17:00 |
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mihgen | sc68cal: merged your patch. We will need to revert it all after proper implementation... | 17:02 |
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SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks! | 18:00 |
sreshetn1ak | o/ | 18:00 |
huichun | hello | 18:00 |
weiting | hi | 18:01 |
NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 18:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | @startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu May 14 18:01:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:01 |
Nikolay_St | o/ | 18:01 |
tosky | hi | 18:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 18:01 |
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elmiko | heyo/ | 18:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 18:01 |
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alazarev | o/ | 18:02 |
crobertsrh | hello/ | 18:02 |
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NikitaKonovalov | I've added a change for volume types to that etherpad recently | 18:02 |
crobertsrh | Not much new UI-wise for me at the moment. Was working on a few other bits. | 18:03 |
NikitaKonovalov | despite asking in horizon channel there are not much reviews appearing | 18:03 |
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NikitaKonovalov | there may one reason for that, if you are implementing a blueprint in horizon please make sure it is targete for a milestone | 18:04 |
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NikitaKonovalov | those changes are getting attention usuallyt | 18:04 |
crobertsrh | Good point | 18:04 |
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SergeyLukjanov | NikitaKonovalov, add this note to the etherpad to remind :) | 18:05 |
NikitaKonovalov | that's all the news I have | 18:05 |
NikitaKonovalov | SergeyLukjanov: ok, I'll add a note | 18:05 |
SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 18:07 |
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SergeyLukjanov | folks, please | 18:07 |
sreshetn1ak | no updates from me | 18:07 |
Nikolay_St | working on health checks for cdh. plan to put it on review tomorrow|on Monday | 18:08 |
elmiko | i've been working on a castellan prototype for sahara and working with the upstream team to improve the interaction with castellan. also i'm creating some architectural descriptions of how we might leverage hadoop secure mode and the apache knox project. finally, i'm doing some exploration of the sahara code in preparation for the keystone session object blueprint. | 18:08 |
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huichun_ | working on scheduled edp jobs, updated spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175719/ | 18:10 |
huichun | SergeyLukjanov: hi Sergey, thanks for your comment, I have updated my spec, you can have a check~ | 18:11 |
SergeyLukjanov | huichun, I'll take a look on it today | 18:11 |
tmckay | submitted a few bug fixes -- JSON nulls, and cluster template update. | 18:11 |
tmckay | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181477/ | 18:11 |
tmckay | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182783/ | 18:11 |
tmckay | huichun, I see that you assigned the JSON null bug to yourself, sorry, I didn't see that earlier :) | 18:11 |
tmckay | also not sure why my CR is not listed under the bug --- I cited the number | 18:12 |
huichun | tmckay: ^_^ | 18:12 |
tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, question as to whether or not the cluster template update bug after it's approved should be backported to Kilo | 18:12 |
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huichun | tmckay: I have update the scheduled Eco jobs spec, you can have a check~ | 18:13 |
tmckay | basically, update of a cluster template will wipe out the node groups even when node group info is not supplied in the update | 18:13 |
elmiko | oh yea, i should mention i'm chasing several security related bugs that i would like enter about our usage of hard coded passwords. | 18:13 |
tmckay | huichun, yes, I wanted to go through all of the EDP proposals before summit (today and tomorrow). Thank you. | 18:13 |
SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, I think it could be backported | 18:13 |
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tmckay | SergeyLukjanov, so, logistical question on that. I changed an exception message in the process. But maybe I should break the commit apart, so that it can be cherrypicked without the message change. Because that would mean someone would have to retranslate for Kilo, right? Do we want to avoid that? I assume so. | 18:15 |
SergeyLukjanov | tmckay, yup, we should avoid changing translated strings | 18:15 |
tmckay | ok, I'll redo the CR | 18:16 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 18:17 |
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SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Liberty/Etherpads | 18:18 |
elmiko | i'd like to thank alazarev for adding some nice questions to the security session pad. thanks alazarev! | 18:18 |
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alazarev | elmiko, np :) | 18:18 |
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crobertsrh | Please take some time to add your suggestions to the UI etherpad. Even if it's messy. I'll do what I can to organize things nicely. | 18:19 |
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alazarev | crobertsrh, I would say "to all etherpads" :) | 18:21 |
crobertsrh | yes, I suppose I was being a bit selfish :) | 18:21 |
elmiko | <shameless plug> i'd love more opinions on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179393/ </shameless plug> | 18:22 |
tmckay | yes, I need to get my Summit game on and review all the pads | 18:22 |
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tmckay | start thinking in Canadian | 18:23 |
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SergeyLukjanov | folks, I'd like to propose to cancel next two irc meetings | 18:29 |
SergeyLukjanov | on a summit week and week after | 18:29 |
elmiko | fine by me | 18:30 |
crobertsrh | +1 | 18:30 |
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huichun_ | +1 | 18:30 |
alazarev | +1 | 18:30 |
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tmckay | +1 | 18:31 |
crobertsrh | More importantly, what color are the t-shirts this time around? | 18:31 |
elmiko | lol | 18:32 |
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* crobertsrh is hoping to get to the point where he only wears Sahara t-shirts. | 18:32 | |
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crobertsrh | well, pants too | 18:33 |
mattf | thank goodness | 18:33 |
tmckay | I hope the sweatshirts are larger this time. I had to give mine to my daughter | 18:33 |
SergeyLukjanov | :) | 18:33 |
SergeyLukjanov | I've not ordered sahara t-shirts this time | 18:34 |
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elmiko | tmckay: mine got snatched by the wife ;) | 18:34 |
SergeyLukjanov | #agreed to cancel next two irc meetings - summit week and week after | 18:34 |
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crobertsrh | Oh... | 18:37 |
crobertsrh | Has anyone else run into: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1453953 | 18:37 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1453953 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "[data processing] Unable to upload job binaries" [Undecided,New] | 18:37 |
SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, probably NikitaKonovalov | 18:37 |
* NikitaKonovalov looking at the bug | 18:37 | |
crobertsrh | Someone mentioned it last week (or maybe 2 weeks ago). It was written against Sahara, but I moved it over to Horizon. | 18:38 |
crobertsrh | I seem to be able to reproduce it, but I have no idea why it suddenly appeared. I don't think we've touched that part for awhile. | 18:38 |
elmiko | is it possibly something with string types and the six package? | 18:39 |
NikitaKonovalov | something bad happens in the kesytone session inside saharaclient | 18:39 |
elmiko | it smells like a py2/3 thing | 18:39 |
elmiko | ahh | 18:39 |
NikitaKonovalov | looks like it is trying to log the contents, and fails to parse json | 18:39 |
SergeyLukjanov | oh... | 18:40 |
NikitaKonovalov | and will happen on all binaries, which are actually "binary" files, not text | 18:40 |
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crobertsrh | yep, that is all accurate | 18:40 |
NikitaKonovalov | I guess it should be moved to saharaclient then :) | 18:41 |
SergeyLukjanov | we need a volunteer to ensure it fixed ;) | 18:41 |
NikitaKonovalov | I can take that | 18:42 |
crobertsrh | many thanks | 18:42 |
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SergeyLukjanov | anything else to chat? | 18:43 |
SergeyLukjanov | if not I'm going to close the meeting and grab coffee | 18:44 |
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crobertsrh | Nothing here. Who is going to be at summit this time? | 18:44 |
elmiko | coffee sounds good | 18:44 |
SergeyLukjanov | from mirantis - me, alazarev and aignatov (for sahara stuff) | 18:44 |
elmiko | from red hat we have, me, mattf, crobertsrh, and tmckay (for sahara) | 18:45 |
crobertsrh | Anyone else? | 18:45 |
crobertsrh | See you all there! | 18:45 |
SergeyLukjanov | thanks folks! | 18:46 |
SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 18:46 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 14 18:46:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-05-14-18.01.html | 18:46 |
elmiko | thanks SergeyLukjanov | 18:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-05-14-18.01.txt | 18:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-05-14-18.01.log.html | 18:46 |
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