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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 16 15:04:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:04 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:04 |
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| pcarver | hi | 15:05 |
| svinota | hello | 15:05 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:05 |
| pc_m | o/ | 15:05 |
| tmorin | we have only a light agenda for today | 15:06 |
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| ramanjaneya | Hello everyone | 15:06 |
| matrohon | #topic Announcement | 15:06 |
| matrohon | bgpvpn is under the openstack repo, not in stackforge anymore | 15:06 |
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| pc_m | nice! | 15:07 |
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| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186041/ | 15:07 |
| matrohon | ^ the related patch | 15:07 |
| tmorin | the .gitreview, READMEs have been updated | 15:08 |
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| matrohon | any other announcement anyone? | 15:08 |
| tmorin | no, I think we can go through last week's action points | 15:09 |
| tmorin | "ACTION: tmorin to update specs to indicate that DB will store only import_rts and export_rts" | 15:09 |
| tmorin | I updated the specs accordingly | 15:09 |
| tmorin | #topic action items | 15:09 |
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| tmorin | pc_m , don't hesitate to have a look to confirm that my change reflects what you had in mind | 15:10 |
| tmorin | if you did not already | 15:10 |
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| pc_m | tmorin: will do | 15:10 |
| tmorin | we will put the .rst file into a doc subdir in networking-bgpvpn | 15:11 |
| tmorin | my understanding is that the current change request for neutron-specs will be useless at that point | 15:11 |
| svinota | ok | 15:11 |
| tmorin | but we'll link to it for reference, there are a few useful discussions in there | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | #action tmorin to move spec rst into networking-bgpvpn/doc | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | next item: "ACTION: tmorin to investigate unit test coverage to db persistency" | 15:12 |
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| * tmorin did not advance much, was only able to start looking how its done in other projects | 15:13 | |
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| tmorin | #action tmorin to investigate unit test coverage to db persistency | 15:13 |
| tmorin | next item: "ACTION: vikram to update python-neutronclient code" | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | vikram ain't here AFAICT | 15:14 |
| tmorin | nor dhruv | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | next item: "svinota to work on DB mappings and RD (mostly done)" | 15:15 |
| svinota | not so mostly, as I thought | 15:15 |
| svinota | was a bit overloaded, so postponed everything. Will continue this week. | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | ok, good | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | (the next action item was on the new repo) | 15:16 |
| tmorin | #topic driver status | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | any update on this front ? | 15:17 |
| tmorin | in particular on odl side ? | 15:18 |
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| svinota | ODL — no info | 15:18 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:19 |
| svinota | will ping Chris, maybe I missed something | 15:19 |
| ramanjaneya | Hi this ramanjaneya from Vikram team.. | 15:19 |
| svinota | hi! | 15:20 |
| tmorin | nothing urgent nor mandatory, but I guess i can be interesting to have an idea | 15:20 |
| tmorin | hi ramanjaneya | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | #topic functional tests | 15:21 |
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| ramanjaneya | Vikram join tomorrow..and we will work on neutron client changes | 15:22 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:22 |
| tmorin | good :) | 15:22 |
| matrohon | I'm following what is done in the neutron side | 15:22 |
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| matrohon | with the fullstack framework | 15:22 |
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| matrohon | for instance : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190832/ | 15:22 |
| tmorin | can you describe quickly what the func test would look like for bgpvpn | 15:23 |
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| tmorin | what pieces it would exercise and so on | 15:23 |
| tmorin | ? | 15:23 |
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| matrohon | actually it runs processes such as l2 agent, l3 agents | 15:23 |
| matrohon | neutronserver and so on | 15:24 |
| matrohon | it's useful to have end-to-end tests | 15:24 |
| tmorin | definitly so | 15:24 |
| matrohon | it uses the lib Fixture to auto create and destroy object and processes | 15:24 |
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| matrohon | there are som fixture available to emulate a VM! and ping them | 15:25 |
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| matrohon | for bagpipe, it would useful, since it's only few componenet that might be descibed with Fixtures | 15:26 |
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| matrohon | maybe il would be painful for 3rd party sdn controller | 15:26 |
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| tmorin | ok, so in these functional test, for bagpipe driver, they would spawn the modified ovs agent and bagpipe-bgp | 15:27 |
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| matrohon | yep | 15:27 |
| tmorin | doing multinode tests would make it easy to exercise ovs | 15:28 |
| tmorin | but without multinode, some work will be required to simulate multiple bagpipe-bgp instances | 15:28 |
| matrohon | there are also ongoing discussions to have a more pluggable l2agent : | 15:28 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189723/ | 15:28 |
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| matrohon | I'll try to help on that part to make it useful for bagpipe | 15:29 |
| tmorin | pluggable l2agent is not specific to functional test, though | 15:29 |
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| tmorin | svinota, had you any particular ideas on functional tests ? | 15:30 |
| tmorin | the other part we may want to cover is tempest tests | 15:30 |
| tmorin | do we think we need both fullstack tests and tempest tests ? | 15:30 |
| svinota | I have some. But not sure they will be appreciated much | 15:30 |
| tmorin | please go ahead :) | 15:31 |
| tmorin | or we leave this meeting bored | 15:31 |
| tmorin | :) | 15:31 |
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| svinota | since I'm trying to make real tests with real VMs with BGP stack installed | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | real VMs being running a BGP stack like quagga's or a closed-source bgp stack ? | 15:32 |
| svinota | quagga as a beginning | 15:32 |
| svinota | actually, I need (for other task) a tool to run several VMs infrastructure that form an isolated network segment | 15:32 |
| tmorin | not a bad idea to have tests that really cover interop with non-bagpipe implementations | 15:32 |
| svinota | with a code injected on each node | 15:32 |
| svinota | and I am not sure they will like it in the the openstack team | 15:33 |
| svinota | but I will definitively publish it as soon as I get the system up & running | 15:33 |
| tmorin | you bgp test VMs would be spawned on a admin vlans to which the bagpipe bgp implems would be connected ? | 15:33 |
| tmorin | spawned by openstack itself | 15:34 |
| tmorin | or your tool would do it ? | 15:34 |
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| svinota | not sure I got the question | 15:35 |
| tmorin | I'm not sure I get what you mean by "code injected on each node": what code ? node==VM ? | 15:35 |
| svinota | ok, step by step: | 15:35 |
| tmorin | would the VMs be spawned by openstack/nova or by another tool ? | 15:35 |
| tmorin | yes;) | 15:35 |
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| svinota | 1. prepare a bunch of VM images (get from a repo); 2. using guestfs inject all the code I need (OpenStack: Neutron, bagpipe, etc.); 3. in the same way inject testing framework that will start tests, will be run from rc.local | 15:37 |
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| svinota | 4. boot VM using libvirt; 5. wait until a condition; 6. shutdown nodes, collect results | 15:37 |
| svinota | reasons: I'm going to test 3rd-party unreliable code, and I must isolate it from ANY network | 15:38 |
| svinota | VM can be interconnected, but the host must have no connection to VMs | 15:39 |
| matrohon | why not running devstack? | 15:39 |
| tmorin | looks a bit like what zuul is doing for CI, no ? | 15:39 |
| svinota | tmorin, probably | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | apart maybe the isolation requirement | 15:39 |
| svinota | matrohon, since I tried and failed — probably I'm too stupid, not sure yet | 15:39 |
| matrohon | we can surely help :) what is failing on devstack? | 15:40 |
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| matrohon | the bagpipe part? | 15:40 |
| svinota | tmorin, the issue is that for me the isolation is a requirement. I can not trust no change I didn't review, and this solution should work even with not yet reviewed code | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | I've nothing particular pro or against the tool that you are writing, but I would be more confortable if networking-bgpbpn would use tools already used by other projects | 15:41 |
| svinota | matrohon, let me ping you on Thursday and I will try to do the same (not literally the same, but what can do) with the devstack | 15:41 |
| tmorin | that is, unless we hit issues with these tools | 15:41 |
| matrohon | svinota : great! | 15:41 |
| svinota | matrohon, since I believe I miss something, and will be glad not to invent nothing new | 15:42 |
| svinota | matrohon, most of issues are about unpredictable devstack deployment — sometimes it refuses to start 'cause of (probably) races | 15:43 |
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| matrohon | devstack is not always reliable! | 15:43 |
| svinota | matrohon, then it can not be used for testing, can it be? | 15:44 |
| tmorin | there are a few things that I had to learn to be able to use devstack | 15:44 |
| tmorin | like doing an unstack.sh before doing a stack.sh | 15:44 |
| matrohon | it is used for CI with some masterised parameters | 15:44 |
| tmorin | stack.sh must start on clear ground | 15:45 |
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| matrohon | if one try to mix some devstack parameters that are never mixed in the CI jobs, it might fail | 15:45 |
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| svinota | ok, so let's try on Thursday — I really can be wrong and this will save me several days of work | 15:46 |
| matrohon | for instance using the bgpvpn devstack plugin :) | 15:46 |
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| svinota | matrohon, oh yes :) | 15:46 |
| tmorin | but we definitely can work out a working config for openvswitch agent + bgpvpn service driver + bagpipe driver | 15:46 |
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| tmorin | and the result should be reliable enough for CI testing | 15:47 |
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| svinota | I just realized that these tools can be used together — devstack with what I try to design for an isolated testing | 15:48 |
| matrohon | svinota : you can have a look at my devstack conf here : https://github.com/mathieu-rohon/devstack-conf/tree/master/test_bgpvpn_bagpipe | 15:48 |
| matrohon | They propbably need an update though | 15:48 |
| svinota | matrohon, thanks | 15:49 |
| svinota | got it, reading | 15:49 |
| tmorin | using tempest based on such a devstack would be a possible approach | 15:50 |
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| tmorin | writing tests that would call the BGPVPN API, and test how results are applied (e.g. pinging between VMs in two distinct networks bound to a common VPN, or between a tenant VM and a VRF on a quagga VM) | 15:51 |
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| matrohon | svinota : at least, the bgpvpn repo has to be changed in the local.conf, since it's not stackforge anymore but openstack | 15:51 |
| svinota | yep | 15:51 |
| matrohon | tmorin : that would be great for a CI job | 15:51 |
| tmorin | yes | 15:52 |
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| matrohon | it needs some tempests patches | 15:52 |
| tmorin | to add the new tests ? | 15:52 |
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| tmorin | can't they be in our project ? | 15:53 |
| matrohon | I think yes, I'm not sure how tempest is pluggable | 15:53 |
| svinota | I believe they can be anyways. If not, we can make it pluggable :) | 15:53 |
| tmorin | doing the "pinging between VMs in two distinct networks bound to a common VPN" would be easy to do if we have the ability to run multi-node tempest tests | 15:53 |
| tmorin | svinota: yes | 15:54 |
| tmorin | other projects would probably be in the same situation as ours | 15:54 |
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| tmorin | we need to see with openstack-infra how feasible it would be to have multi-node tests | 15:55 |
| matrohon | I'm not sure that running multi-node tests in the infra is the easy way. I'm not sure that the infra team is really keen on multi-node tests | 15:55 |
| matrohon | I would bet on fullstack tests in a first attempt | 15:55 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:56 |
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| tmorin | both are complementary I understand | 15:56 |
| tmorin | tempest tests would have the benefit of not being tied to a specific backend | 15:56 |
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| matrohon | yep, but even with a tempest test, Im not sure the gate would be able to deploy a sdn controller such as ODL | 15:58 |
| matrohon | this would need a third party testing to vote on bgpvpn changes | 15:58 |
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| tmorin | ok, we'll see | 15:59 |
| tmorin | we are out of time | 16:00 |
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| tmorin | #topic next meeting | 16:00 |
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| tmorin | next week the goal is to try to have everyone present to discuss attachement options | 16:00 |
| tmorin | router, subnet, networks | 16:00 |
| tmorin | it would be nice to have everyone | 16:00 |
| svinota | ok. I'll be here. | 16:00 |
| tmorin | including diego | 16:00 |
| tmorin | tim | 16:00 |
| tmorin | and ideally someone from contrail too | 16:01 |
| tmorin | we need to free the room now :) | 16:01 |
| tmorin | thanks everyone | 16:01 |
| matrohon | thanks | 16:01 |
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| tmorin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 16:01:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| svinota | thanks | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-06-16-15.04.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-06-16-15.04.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-06-16-15.04.log.html | 16:01 |
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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 16 17:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| serg_melikyan | Hi folks :) | 17:00 |
| kztsv_mbp | hi all | 17:00 |
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| FilipBlaha | Hi | 17:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | hi | 17:01 |
| DmytroDovbii | Hi | 17:01 |
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| katyafervent2 | hi | 17:01 |
| velovec | hi | 17:01 |
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| freerunner | Hey! | 17:02 |
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| serg_melikyan | Finally someone said something different from hi :) | 17:03 |
| slagun | hello :) | 17:03 |
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| serg_melikyan | We have quite a long list of AIs for today :) Let's get started... | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items Review (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:04 | |
| serg_melikyan | #1 katyafervent will re-assign open bugs for apps to newly created project | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent2: can you update us on that? | 17:05 |
| katyafervent2 | done | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | awesome :) | 17:05 |
| katyafervent2 | there are not a lot of bugs actually | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | #2 sergmelikyan will populate project with appropriate release milestones | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | done :) | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | #3 documentation, readme needs to be updated to include information about lp/murano-apps | 17:05 |
| katyafervent2 | i removed them from murano project and added to murano apps | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | I don't remember who was going to do that :( | 17:05 |
| kztsv_mbp | I've started using murano-apps for app realted bugs | 17:06 |
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| katyafervent2 | not done | 17:06 |
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| kztsv_mbp | serg_melikyan: well We can file a bug for that | 17:06 |
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| kztsv_mbp | if we hadn't already | 17:06 |
| kztsv_mbp | I usually file bugs, let me take a look | 17:06 |
| serg_melikyan | kztsv_mbp: I believe you did that :) But not 100% sure | 17:06 |
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| katyafervent2 | i asigned it to myself | 17:07 |
| kztsv_mbp | https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1463499 here you go | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463499 in murano "Documentation should reflect, that application bugs are tracked in murano-apps" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ekaterina Chernova (efedorova) | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | And bug has Confirmed state... :) | 17:07 |
| katyafervent2 | i'll do it soon | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | Ekaterin Chernova update OpenStack wiki with approved tag list of proposed tag | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | #4 | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | ^ | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent2: so many of them on you :) | 17:09 |
| katyafervent2 | done | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | and last one #4 ativelkov to file a BP on proxies | 17:09 |
| katyafervent2 | there is should be murano section with list of tags | 17:09 |
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| kztsv_mbp | and we started using tags already. I've found the bug so fast because it was properly tagged =)))) | 17:09 |
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| kztsv_mbp | hm I think he's not here | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | :( | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | Ok :) | 17:10 |
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| serg_melikyan | Looks like we don't have specific agenda for todays meeting, let's move to Open Discussion? | 17:11 |
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| Nikolay_St | serg_melikyan: +1 | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
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| Nikolay_St | guys, I start work on this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/cloudfoundry-api-support | 17:12 |
| Nikolay_St | here is a draft of spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192250/ | 17:12 |
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| serg_melikyan | Nikolay_St: awesome :) We had this staff planned about year ago... | 17:13 |
| ruhe | any ideas how it's going to be tested? or do you need some time to figure that out? | 17:13 |
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| ruhe | i mean, tested in CI | 17:13 |
| Nikolay_St | ruhe: I think I need some time for this | 17:14 |
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| ruhe | ok. thanks | 17:14 |
| kztsv_mbp | I have a suggestion to make: Let's enable trusts by default and start testing this functionality as hard as we can. | 17:14 |
| Nikolay_St | kztsv_mbp: this is a good idea | 17:14 |
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| kztsv_mbp | The rationale is that using trusts is way more reliable, than having a token, tied to user session in horizon. Which would become invalid as soon as user logs out. | 17:15 |
| katyafervent2 | +1 | 17:15 |
| ruhe | +1 from me as well | 17:15 |
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| serg_melikyan | +1 | 17:16 |
| slagun | +1 | 17:16 |
| kztsv_mbp | Ok, since everyone agrees — I'll make a commit, and probably would write a mail to BP, stating that we're moving towards trusts in liberty | 17:16 |
| kztsv_mbp | shoule I make a action or smth about that? | 17:16 |
| slagun | it need to be tested and maybe improved since there were changes in keystone since we merged them | 17:17 |
| serg_melikyan | But we should definetly announce that in ML alongside with possible aftereffects | 17:17 |
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| serg_melikyan | kztsv_mbp: feel free :) | 17:17 |
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| kztsv_mbp | hm can't seem to find a right article on how to do that, could anyone help me with that? =) | 17:19 |
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| serg_melikyan | https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 17:19 |
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| kztsv_mbp | #action kztsv_mbp: enable trusts by default, notify everyon via ML about this decision and rationale behind it. | 17:22 |
| slagun | kztsv_mbp, note that trusts must be enabled in Heat as well. And in case they are still not enabled by default lets leave it as is in Murano and enable them in MOS and CI instead | 17:24 |
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| kztsv_mbp | slagun: thats a valuable comment, will look into heat, to verify that | 17:25 |
| serg_melikyan | I believe trusts are enabled by default in Heat | 17:26 |
| serg_melikyan | since juno | 17:26 |
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| kztsv_mbp | yep, from what I see heat was one of the reasons trusts exist | 17:26 |
| slagun | yes, it is enabled by default in Heat. But since Kilo, not Juno | 17:28 |
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| kztsv_mbp | So, since we're out of items to discuss, shall we go on to discussing yesterdays E3 reveals? +)) | 17:32 |
| kztsv_mbp | just kidding =))) | 17:32 |
| slagun | E3? | 17:32 |
| serg_melikyan | Mass Effect FTW | 17:32 |
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| kztsv_mbp | Last Guardian was a huge one for me =)) | 17:33 |
| kztsv_mbp | slagun: electronic entertainment expo, E3 | 17:33 |
| kztsv_mbp | lot's of epic games were announced yesterday and it's all over the internet =) | 17:34 |
| slagun | UT4 is the only game I'm waiting for. So I missed all of this | 17:35 |
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| serg_melikyan | Let's move flame to somewhere else :) | 17:36 |
| kztsv_mbp | yep, sorry for starting this | 17:37 |
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| serg_melikyan | let's cut todays meeting short? :) | 17:37 |
| kztsv_mbp | +1 seems like we've discussed everything we wanted | 17:37 |
| Nikolay_St | +1 | 17:38 |
| velovec | +1 | 17:38 |
| FilipBlaha | +1 | 17:38 |
| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
| katyafervent2 | ok | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 17:39:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-06-16-17.00.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-06-16-17.00.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-06-16-17.00.log.html | 17:39 |
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| Nikolay_St | bye guys | 17:39 |
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| jdob | o/ | 19:00 |
| slagle | howdy howdy | 19:00 |
| slagle | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 16 19:01:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slagle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:01 |
| slagle | #topic agenda | 19:01 |
| slagle | * bugs | 19:01 |
| slagle | * reviews | 19:01 |
| slagle | * Projects needing releases | 19:01 |
| slagle | * CI | 19:01 |
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| slagle | * Specs | 19:01 |
| slagle | * open discussion | 19:02 |
| slagle | first off i should edit the wiki page to remove the alternate meeting time | 19:02 |
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| slagle | done | 19:02 |
| slagle | there is probably an official schedule i need to make that change to as well | 19:02 |
| slagle | #action slagle remove alternate meeting time | 19:03 |
| jdob | does that mean we're weekly at this time or still biweekly? | 19:03 |
| slagle | biweekly still | 19:03 |
| jdob | kk | 19:03 |
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| slagle | i need to figure out how to update the official ics feed | 19:04 |
| slagle | i'll do that this week | 19:04 |
| slagle | #topic bugs | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:04 | |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-net-config | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:04 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:04 |
| slagle | i'm just reviewing the crits in tripleo | 19:05 |
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| bnemec | o/ | 19:11 |
| dasm | o/ | 19:12 |
| slagle | ok i believe i've triaged everything that needed it | 19:13 |
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| slagle | #topic reviews | 19:14 |
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| slagle | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 19:14 |
| slagle | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 19:14 |
| slagle | are there any reviews people would like to raise up for attention? | 19:15 |
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| jdob | more pressing is that CI is hosed and we can't +A stuff | 19:15 |
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| slagle | wait, still? | 19:15 |
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| slagle | i just looked at the crit bugs, it looked like everything was handled | 19:16 |
| bnemec | CI looks mostly green | 19:16 |
| slagle | yea i'm looking at it now | 19:16 |
| bnemec | http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html | 19:16 |
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| slagle | i mean don't scroll down too far | 19:16 |
| jdob | ah, my bad, I was looking at an old review | 19:16 |
| slagle | but it's green at the top :) | 19:16 |
| slagle | the nova folks don't agree on the proposed revert | 19:17 |
| slagle | but that's reverted in tripleo-ci for now | 19:17 |
| slagle | so we should be around that issue | 19:17 |
| slagle | #topic CI | 19:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:17 | |
| slagle | since we were already talking about it :) | 19:18 |
| bnemec | Yeah, they're kind of ugly problems. | 19:18 |
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| bnemec | One is upstream keepalived package. | 19:18 |
| bnemec | One is a bug fix for a serious bug in Nova. | 19:18 |
| dasm | guys, i was thinking about this ci problems. and afaik, everything is connected to external services. | 19:18 |
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| dasm | so, maybe the solution for this would be to add extra gate to those services, involved in tripleo? | 19:19 |
| dasm | it's not so simple, and takes some time, but could be really helpful to prevent problems like in prev week. | 19:19 |
| slagle | that has been more or less our mission for a while | 19:19 |
| bnemec | We would like to, but Nova alone is kind of a fire hose. | 19:20 |
| dasm | slagle: adding to other services? | 19:20 |
| bnemec | And we can't really gate on upstream packages, AFAIK. | 19:20 |
| slagle | dasm: yes; the issue is that we lack capacity and an HA cloud that is reliable enough to gate other projects | 19:20 |
| bnemec | We should maybe look at getting in as a non-voting third-party CI though. | 19:21 |
| bnemec | Been meaning to talk to Derek about that for a while. | 19:21 |
| dasm | so, does it mean, we cannot prevent this situation? | 19:21 |
| dasm | bnemec: +1 | 19:21 |
| slagle | we're also in the experimental queue | 19:21 |
| dasm | i was thinking about exactly this kind of thing. add as non-voting, maybe even with little changed devtest (or anything what will be after this) | 19:22 |
| slagle | but that relies on people being aware enough to check-experimental if they think a patch might affect tripleo | 19:22 |
| dasm | so instead of creating 15 vms, it could create 3 cc + 1 cn | 19:22 |
| dasm | just for this extra gate. | 19:22 |
| slagle | what's cc? cn? | 19:22 |
| dasm | cloud controller, compute node | 19:23 |
| bnemec | dasm: It doesn't actually create 15 vms in CI. | 19:23 |
| slagle | the testenv's deployed with 15vm's don't actually get all used or take up capacity | 19:23 |
| bnemec | The testenvs are static, with four(?) nodes, I believe. | 19:23 |
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| dasm | ok, so i've misinterpreted this. all the time thought about 15 vms called baremetal_ | 19:24 |
| slagle | #idea add tripleo-ci as 3rd party non-voting ci | 19:24 |
| bnemec | dasm: For local devtest, it does. | 19:24 |
| bnemec | CI is a little different though. | 19:24 |
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| dasm | but still, what kind of infrastructure would need to be added/created to add it as next gate? | 19:24 |
| dasm | bnemec: ack | 19:25 |
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| dasm | correct me, if i'm wrong, but should we have one gate per project? so it would be like 5 or 6 gates? | 19:26 |
| bnemec | dasm: I'm not sure anyone here knows that for sure. If you can catch derekh he might know. | 19:26 |
| dasm | ok, i'll try to talk to derekh and ask about it. | 19:26 |
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| dasm | and maybe anyone has different idea? or is it the only one? | 19:27 |
| slagle | 3rd party ci is the other idea | 19:29 |
| slagle | and envangelizing check-experimental more | 19:29 |
| slagle | for instance, in that nova revert dprince posted, the reviewers were saying they had no way to test actual deployments via ironic | 19:30 |
| slagle | which is clearly not true | 19:30 |
| slagle | tripleo can via check-experimental | 19:30 |
| slagle | #topic Specs | 19:30 |
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| slagle | i dont see any new specs proposed | 19:31 |
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| slagle | #topic open discussion | 19:31 |
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| dasm | what is the highest priority right now, for tripleo? | 19:31 |
| dasm | i couldn't attend openstack summit, so have a little lack of knowledge. | 19:32 |
| slagle | i'm not sure we're organized in a way where we have 1 single list of prioritized items | 19:32 |
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| slagle | we have many different people working on different things, all with their own priorities | 19:33 |
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| slagle | if i had to guess i'd say, HA and network isolation are the 2 biggest things people are working on right now | 19:33 |
| dasm | ok, so different question: what would be nice to have, but no one is working on this. | 19:34 |
| dasm | i'm interested in merging efforts from kolla into tripleo. | 19:34 |
| dasm | anyone is doing it already? | 19:34 |
| slagle | there are 2 people working on that. | 19:35 |
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| slagle | have you seen the patch they've posted? | 19:35 |
| dasm | not yet. but will check it. | 19:36 |
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| sdake | slagle while on subject of kolla, a new ansible-multi spec is up for review addressing your comments here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189157/ | 19:37 |
| sdake | invite the tripleo community to review and vote :) | 19:37 |
| slagle | dasm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178840/ | 19:37 |
| slagle | sdake: thanks, i will | 19:37 |
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| slagle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189157/ | 19:37 |
| sdake | some of your comments are addressed in the review rather then in the spec itself | 19:38 |
| sdake | but I feel they accurately represent the state of the community | 19:38 |
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| slagle | sdake: ok, great, i'll take another look | 19:39 |
| dasm | slagle: thanks for link. i'm on it. and will check link from sdake. | 19:39 |
| slagle | any other items before we wrap up? | 19:40 |
| slagle | thanks folks! | 19:41 |
| slagle | #endmeeting | 19:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 19:41:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-06-16-19.01.html | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-06-16-19.01.txt | 19:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-06-16-19.01.log.html | 19:41 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 16 21:00:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-06-16_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:01 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:01 |
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| datsun180b | Ed Cranford | 21:01 |
| james_li | james li | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | some of the folks in austin are on their way home, prompted by a tornado watch | 21:01 |
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| adrian_otto | oh, no | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | I hope that does not cause too much trouble there | 21:02 |
| datsun180b | are you double-booked for cross-project right now? | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | datsun180b: me? | 21:04 |
| datsun180b | yes, and i guess you've likely been this whole time | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | so we have datsun180, james_li, and me | 21:05 |
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| gpilz | gilbert pilz | 21:05 |
| gpilz | (sorry) | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | hi gpilz | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so that's enough to start with | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:06 | |
| adrian_otto | 1) We released Solum 2015.1.0 (Kilo) this past week | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | 2) We applied to become an OpenStack Project: | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/190949 Governance Review to Add Solum to OpenStack Projects List | 21:06 |
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| kebray | keith bray here | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | It was on the agenda for the TC meeting which just concluded: | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-06-16-20.02.html TC Minutes with link to full logs | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | even though affiliation diversity is not a decision criteria for new projects, the TC is concerned about it so it's time to do community building work. | 21:08 |
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| datsun180b | I didn't gather it was a deal-breaker, but it is something we should work on | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | we have 4/7 required votes so far | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | it's technically irrelevant, but I think we all would appreciate wider diversity. | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | so let's work on that a bit | 21:09 |
| datsun180b | It's difficult because I can only indirectly influence that balance | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | questions on the motion? | 21:09 |
| datsun180b | I'm glad they didn't have many qualms with our approach and they didn't question our stability that I saw | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: diversity will improve if people know about the project | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | and know that it's actually a real thing that its contributors are committed to | 21:10 |
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| datsun180b | Should we make or update a getting-started-with-developing doc? | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | 3) I will be on vacation from 6/19 to 7/5 returning to work again on 7/6 | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | datsun180b: yes, those sorts of efforts will help onboard new contributors | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | so I've asked Devdatta if he can chair our meetings, and he said yes. | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | so I'll mark the next agenda accordingly. | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | any announcements from team members? | 21:13 |
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| adrian_otto | hello kebray and dimtruck | 21:13 |
| kebray | hello | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:14 | |
| adrian_otto | 1) adrian_otto to spring clean our blueprints (COMPLETE) | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | 2) adrian_otto to spring clean our bug list (COMPLETE) | 21:14 |
| datsun180b | ten labors remain, herakles | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | 3) devkulkarni to file a bug to investigate solum-magnum integration outlining the various options, relevant documentation, etc. | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/magnum-integration Magnum Integration for App Deployment | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | that concludes action items… none to carry forward. | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 21:15 |
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| adrian_otto | Bug Ststs: 0 Critical, 4 High, 8 Medium, 22 Low, 45 Wishlist | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://launchpad.net/solum/+milestone/2015.1.1 34 bugs targeted for Liberty | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | please help me decide if we should keep the following, or who they should be assigned to: | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | High Importance Bugs (Are these all still valid? If so, let's get them all assigned) | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1321546 docker prepare script does not install docker before running docker command | 21:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1321546 in Solum "docker prepare script does not install docker before running docker command" [High,In progress] - Assigned to James Li (james-li-3) | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | assigned, great! | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | james_li: is this up to date? | 21:16 |
| datsun180b | likely it'll be absorbed by his bash-to-python work | 21:17 |
| james_li | adrian_otto: yeah let's keep around for now and I will look into it | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | ok, Thanks! next | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1339298 rpc server occasionally cannot read messages from rabbitmq on gate node | 21:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1339298 in Solum "rpc server occasionally cannot read messages from rabbitmq on gate node" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to James Li (james-li-3) | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | also assigned to james-li | 21:18 |
| james_li | same for his one too :) | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | next | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1441828 Error in uploading built DU to glance | 21:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441828 in Solum "Error in uploading built DU to glance" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Devdatta (devdatta-kulkarni) | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni is in transit, right? | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | here | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | oh, welcome devkulkarni! | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | I will have to check if this bug is still valid | 21:18 |
| devkulkarni | let it be assignment to me | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll let you look while I pull up the next… | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1462130 Concurrency bug for multiple deployments within same second | 21:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462130 in Solum "Concurrency bug for multiple deployments within same second" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Devdatta (devdatta-kulkarni) | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | that one I just assigned to me | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | this one seemed valid, and recent | 21:19 |
| james_li | yeah | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | feel free to re-assign as needed | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | yes — we have to change our columns to have subsecond time granularity | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | that concludes our list of High priority bugs | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | here are the Medium ones: | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | Orphan Medium Bugs (Let's get these assigned) | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | were all orphaned as of the time I made the agenda earlier | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1293738 Improvement: Check duplicate when creating/registering a language_pack | 21:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1293738 in Solum "Improvement: Check duplicate when creating/registering a language_pack" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:20 |
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| adrian_otto | that one struck me as an easy fix | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | muralia might have already fixed it | 21:21 |
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| datsun180b | i hope the fix isn't just in the cli | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: good point | 21:21 |
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| datsun180b | either way it should be relatively simple | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | we need to check that.. I don't remember | 21:21 |
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| devkulkarni | for now, we can assign it to muralia imo | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I added a comment accordingly | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | ok, will assign | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | done | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | next is: | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1302552 Tech Debt: Convert bash scripts in contrib into python code and add tests | 21:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1302552 in Solum "Tech Debt: Convert bash scripts in contrib into python code and add tests" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | that goes to james_li | 21:22 |
| james_li | I am working on this one | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | ok, assigning | 21:22 |
| datsun180b | i don't think it's fair to call it a bug | 21:23 |
| adrian_otto | it is a task | 21:23 |
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| datsun180b | oh that's just the bot then | 21:23 |
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| adrian_otto | next is | 21:24 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1382660 Create installation instructions | 21:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1382660 in Solum "Create installation instructions" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:24 |
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| adrian_otto | I wondered if this was actually completed already | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | it probably is.. | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: you worked on this recently, yes? | 21:24 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: no.. I was working on getting our devstack setup working | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | oh, ok | 21:25 |
| datsun180b | didn't dimitry, too? he's not anywhere i can ask him | 21:25 |
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| adrian_otto | volunteers to own this one? | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | but nick silkey and dimtruck might have worked on playbooks to get a multinode setup | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | dimtruck was here | 21:25 |
| devkulkarni | I guess we can volunteer dimtruck (dimitry) for this | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I will assign to dimtruck for now, and he can orphan it again if justified | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | assigned. | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1451483 Languagepack name too long to deploy app | 21:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451483 in Solum "Languagepack name too long to deploy app" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | this one struck me as another easy fix | 21:26 |
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| devkulkarni | I think datsun180b was already on it sometime back | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: are you willing to have this one? | 21:27 |
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| datsun180b | well i'm in the same vein with some plan checking. sure, hand it over | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | what's your launchpad id? | 21:27 |
| datsun180b | ed--cranford | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | tx datsun180b | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | assigned. | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | next is... | 21:27 |
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| datsun180b | to know a man's true name is to have power over him | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1340297 solum assembly delete does not delete heat-stack/nova instance on failure | 21:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1340297 in Solum "solum assembly delete does not delete heat-stack/nova instance on failure" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | this one will require some thought to solve well | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: this one might be obsolete | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | oh? | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | reading | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | can we arrange for one of us to test it (with a simulated failure)? | 21:29 |
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| devkulkarni | you can assign that to me | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: I promise not to abuse the power of your name ;-) | 21:29 |
| adrian_otto | tx devkulkarni | 21:29 |
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| devkulkarni | I think we are taking care of this.. I will verify | 21:29 |
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| adrian_otto | assigned. | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | that concludes the medium priority bugs | 21:30 |
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| adrian_otto | all other orphans are Low or Incomplete | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | Bugs to Discuss | 21:30 |
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| james_li | Thanks adrian_otto | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | we had an ML discussion about this one | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/066842.html ML Thread about log deletion | 21:31 |
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| adrian_otto | it was related to thoughts that came form this defect: | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1463986 App deletion logs left in Swift after successful deletion | 21:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463986 in Solum "App deletion logs left in Swift after successful deletion" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:31 |
| adrian_otto | that needs further input to triage I think | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: I think your concern about interactive input is valid | 21:31 |
| devkulkarni | and I am +1 on changing the help message | 21:32 |
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| adrian_otto | were you all happy with the proposed solution outlined in my recent post to the ML today? | 21:32 |
| devkulkarni | can be done when muralia adds the flag | 21:32 |
| datsun180b | option one: remove all interactivity. option two: probe for interactive terminal and fail if it's not available | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | yes, I think we can wait until that flag is implemented | 21:32 |
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| adrian_otto | we will need a blueprint or task ticket to track that feature | 21:32 |
| adrian_otto | is there already one (I don't remember seeing one) | 21:33 |
| datsun180b | at minimum we should have the flag | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | or, do you want to track that in the above referenced bug itself? | 21:33 |
| kebray | the flag is good-enogh for me for now. | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | no, because the current bug is actually a defect | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | and the new flag is a wishlist item | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | I will take an action item to add it | 21:33 |
| devkulkarni | ok, makes sense | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | who would like to own it? | 21:34 |
| devkulkarni | I am sure muralia would volunteer for it if he were here :) | 21:34 |
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| james_li | +1 devkulkarni | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to create a bug/task ticket to track the addition of a flag to keep logs on app deletion, assigned to muralia | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1434293 top-level name should not be in the planfile | 21:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434293 in Solum "top-level name should not be in the planfile" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | this one raised the question (again, sorry) about name uniqueness | 21:35 |
| datsun180b | oh plan "app"s | 21:35 |
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| adrian_otto | dimtruck was kind enough to summarize our previous decision point in this thread: | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/066843.html ML Thread about app name uniqueness | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | any thoughts on this? | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | i think the hardest part about dupe names is our plan "app"s don't have any recourse to rename except rebuilding them | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | gpilz: I was curious if you had a point of view | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | i don't think we need to enforce name uniqueness in new apps since you can just rename them anyway | 21:37 |
| gpilz | I agree with ed | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | but plan names need to be unique? | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | yeah, but they're on the conveyor belt from toy story 3 | 21:38 |
| adrian_otto | heh, funny. | 21:38 |
| gpilz | don't plans have an id? | 21:38 |
| gpilz | isn't 'id' the unique thing? | 21:38 |
| adrian_otto | yes, they have a uuid and a name | 21:38 |
| datsun180b | they do | 21:38 |
| datsun180b | at present we still complain "hey that name refers to >1 resource, try again with the uuid" | 21:39 |
| gpilz | how many unique attributes do you need? | 21:39 |
| datsun180b | and that change may be younger than this bug | 21:39 |
| datsun180b | wait scratch that bit about a bug, that came out of nowhere | 21:40 |
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| datsun180b | anyway i'm of the opinion we don't need to enforce unique names for our resources | 21:40 |
| gpilz | +1 | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | so should we keep bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1434293 or convert that to a BP for new features? | 21:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434293 in Solum "top-level name should not be in the planfile" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:41 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks gpilz | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | thanks datsun180b | 21:41 |
| datsun180b | obselete, i'm working to get away from plans in their current form | 21:41 |
| devkulkarni | does it matter if it is a bug vs. bp? | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I am marking it as such and we can move on | 21:41 |
| adrian_otto | no, it does not matter | 21:42 |
| datsun180b | referring to the app-resource work that is | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | ok.. we can mark it obsolete, but I know muralia had some opinions | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | in general bugs are task level things or defects, and we prefer now to use BP's for new features that are more than a straightforward task,a nd may require work from multiple contributors | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | we can bring it back | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | …later if we want | 21:43 |
| devkulkarni | if required we can revisit it.. I am fine either ways — can see argument from both sides | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | the current status is incomplete | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | so I am going to leave it alone | 21:43 |
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| adrian_otto | and we can purge this out later if there is no further discussion to have on it | 21:43 |
| adrian_otto | assigned to Murali with a question re: disposal of that bug | 21:44 |
| adrian_otto | Blueprints to Discuss | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/app-resource App Resource | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | this BP is in progress | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | I want to scope it to Liberty | 21:45 |
| adrian_otto | objections? | 21:45 |
| datsun180b | none | 21:45 |
| devkulkarni | no objections | 21:45 |
| james_li | fine with me | 21:45 |
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| datsun180b | first review is to lay down the resources, i'm working on that. murali's got the second phase, using the new resources to drive our logic | 21:46 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I marked it as Started and scoped it to L2 | 21:46 |
| datsun180b | the *first* resources | 21:46 |
| adrian_otto | Liberty milestone 2 | 21:46 |
| datsun180b | after that there's the workflow and history resources, by whatever name | 21:47 |
| james_li | datsun180b: how many phases do we have? | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | Please link bug/task tickets back to the blueprint | 21:47 |
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| adrian_otto | you do this by editing the blueprint and putting in the bug numbers | 21:47 |
| datsun180b | i can do that | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | thanks datsun180b | 21:47 |
| adrian_otto | I have a few more | 21:48 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/environments Environments | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | do we want to begin work on this in Liberty? | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | if not, I will not target it yet | 21:48 |
| devkulkarni | may be.. we need to at least change its description to align with the new app and workflow resources | 21:49 |
| devkulkarni | lets hold off on targeting it yet for L | 21:49 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to update description of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/environments to match current terminology | 21:49 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/solum-camp-api CAMP API | 21:49 |
| adrian_otto | gpilz: when should we plan for completion of that BP? | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | is it fair to target it to one of the liberty milestones? | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | 2 months each | 21:50 |
| gpilz | I need about 6 weeks | 21:50 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so I will put it on liberty-2 | 21:50 |
| gpilz | does that sound excessive? | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | and we can revisit as needed | 21:50 |
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| adrian_otto | done | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/stage-logs Stage Logs | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: update on this? | 21:52 |
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| adrian_otto | should it be targeted to liberty-1? | 21:52 |
| datsun180b | obselete. some ideas were worked into app-resource | 21:52 |
| adrian_otto | oh, ok | 21:52 |
| adrian_otto | marking as such | 21:52 |
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| devkulkarni | imo, it is completed | 21:52 |
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| devkulkarni | the logs for each stage are available in tenant's cloud files container | 21:53 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:53 |
| james_li | yeah, tenant logger implemented by Dev | 21:53 |
| datsun180b | oh i see | 21:53 |
| adrian_otto | ok, time for open discussion then | 21:53 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open DIscussion | 21:54 |
| datsun180b | i had a different approach in mind for all of that | 21:54 |
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| datsun180b | but call it done if you like, less work for me | 21:54 |
| james_li | datsun180b: take a look at TenantLogger class, glad to see any improvements on it | 21:54 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: Let's give what we have a try, and if we dislike it we can revisit | 21:54 |
| datsun180b | oh it's fine as is | 21:54 |
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| datsun180b | guess i was getting my wires crossed with my functional test spec | 21:55 |
| adrian_otto | are there other aspirations that we should track for Liberty in blueprints? | 21:56 |
| james_li | datsun180b: oh you have that one | 21:56 |
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| datsun180b | i think the app resource will keep me plenty busy | 21:57 |
| adrian_otto | cool | 21:58 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today | 21:58 |
| james_li | thanks adrian_otto! | 21:58 |
| datsun180b | timed it just about right | 21:58 |
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| adrian_otto | our next meeting is Tuesday 2015-06-23 at 2100 UTC. I will be out, but devkulkarni will chair. | 21:59 |
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| adrian_otto | have a great day | 21:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 21:59:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-06-16-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-06-16-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-06-16-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 16 22:01:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-06-16_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:01 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
| hongbin | o/ | 22:01 |
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| Tango | Ton Ngo | 22:01 |
| yuanying-alt | OTSUKA, Motohiro | 22:01 |
| dane_leblanc | Dane LeBlanc | 22:01 |
| eghobo | o/ | 22:01 |
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| sdake_ | o/ | 22:02 |
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| tcammann_ | hello there | 22:02 |
| juggler_ | hey all | 22:02 |
| diga__ | o/ | 22:02 |
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| adrian_otto | hello hongbin juggler_ mismith rpothier Tango yuanying-alt dane_leblanc eghobo chirag_ sdake_ tcammann_ and diga__ | 22:03 |
| brendenblanco | Hi all | 22:03 |
| sdake | adrian_otto do you have a bot to type that in or do you do it manually | 22:03 |
| mfalatic | o/ | 22:03 |
| tcammann_ | He has the tab button to help! | 22:03 |
| sdake | haha :) | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: I type! | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | but I also use tab completion ;-) | 22:03 |
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| adrian_otto | welcome everyone, let's begin here in just a moment. | 22:04 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | hello daneyon and apmelton | 22:04 |
| daneyon | hey | 22:04 |
| apmelton | yo yo | 22:04 |
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| juggler | o/ | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | Our theme for today's meeting is "Adopt the Orphans" ;-) | 22:05 |
| mfalatic | Martin Falatic checking in | 22:05 |
| juggler | ha | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:05 |
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| thomasem | o/ | 22:05 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) adrian_otto will be on vacation starting 2015-06-19 and will be back to work again 2015-07-05. sdake has agreed to chair our team meetings while I am out. | 22:06 |
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| adrian_otto | hello thomasem and mfalatic | 22:06 |
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| juggler | cheers sdake | 22:06 |
| thomasem | hi hi | 22:06 |
| sdake | i need a beer! | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | any announcements from team members? | 22:07 |
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| adrian_otto | haha | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | a beet | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | s/beet/beer/ | 22:07 |
| thomasem | What a substantial difference | 22:07 |
| tcammann_ | haha pulling beetroots out of the freezer | 22:07 |
| dane_leblanc | What a beeting | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:07 |
| apmelton | apparently beet beer is a thing | 22:07 |
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| sdake | apmelton not in my household :) | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | 1) diga__ to contact ewindsich regarding Swarm+Mesos questions | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | diga__: status? | 22:08 |
| diga__ | adrian_otto: yes, I mailed him, I am again sending mail to him today by including you | 22:08 |
| sdake | ya I got an action | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok, should I carry the action item forward to follow up next week? | 22:09 |
| sdake | that needs addressing | 22:09 |
| diga__ | didn;t receive response yet from ewindsich | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: hang on just one sec, pls | 22:09 |
| sdake | will do | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | #action diga__ to follow up with ewindsich regarding Swarm+Mesos questions | 22:09 |
| diga__ | yep | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | next action... | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | 2) jay-lau-513 Clarify human name generation algorithm plans in BP | 22:09 |
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| adrian_otto | Jay is not here today because this is a ridiculous time of day for him | 22:10 |
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| juggler | excuses! :) | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | anyone have discussions on this topic who can share updates? | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | I will carry it forward | 22:10 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic jay-lau-513 Clarify human name generation algorithm plans in BP | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:11 |
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| adrian_otto | #action jay-lau-513 Clarify human name generation algorithm plans in BP | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | that's better. | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | how about this topic: | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | 3) jay-lau-513 Seek consensus on duplicate names on ML | 22:11 |
| diga__ | I think it is decided to discuss this topic in the meeting | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | the thread concluded that we should auto-generate names | 22:11 |
| diga__ | yes | 22:12 |
| tcammann_ | +1 | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | with an option to relax unique constraints, correct? | 22:12 |
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| diga__ | yes | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | do we need further discussion on this topic or do we have a clear consensus to proceed? | 22:12 |
| tcammann_ | lgtm | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | anyone opposed to a #agreed on this point? | 22:12 |
| diga__ | jay-lau is following docker algorithm for this | 22:12 |
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| sdake | sounds friieghtening :) | 22:13 |
| diga__ | :) | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed Magnum contributors support unique name requirements by default with an option to disable the constraint. If no name is provided at the time of resource creation, a human readable name will be dynamically generated and automatically assigned. | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | I can undo that if there are any objecitons | 22:13 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: unique per tenant? | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok, sdake you have the floor for action item review | 22:14 |
| sdake | definately a new pattern in openstack ;) | 22:14 |
| sdake | no review | 22:14 |
| sdake | a requet | 22:14 |
| sdake | forwarded from Madhuri | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: yes, per tenant, as proposed in our ML thread | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | ok, proceed | 22:14 |
| sdake | adrian_otto could you make a non-sharktank introduction to someone responsible in engineering for TLS to Madhuri via email | 22:15 |
| sdake | and somehow get that work prioritized | 22:15 |
| sdake | she is blocked because we think kubernetes is busted | 22:15 |
| sdake | and #google-containers is completely unhelpful forsolving the problem | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: you mean a Kubernetes dev? | 22:15 |
| sdake | someone that knows something about the tls side of things | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | yes, I can take an action for that intro | 22:15 |
| sdake | you may ahve to go thorug hthe sharktank to find the right person :) | 22:16 |
| sdake | thanks | 22:16 |
| tcammann_ | on the same topic of the TLS work, I would really like to see a spec before we start this work formally | 22:16 |
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| eghobo | sdake: have you heard that kub 1.0 coming within month | 22:16 |
| sdake | have not heard | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to help Madhuri identify a resource on the Kubernetes team who can assist us with TLS feature implementation | 22:16 |
| sdake | but thats fantastic news :) | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: does that look good? | 22:16 |
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| sdake | wfm adrian_otto | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | cool | 22:16 |
| eghobo | http://www.kuberneteslaunch.com/ | 22:16 |
| apuimedo | sorry I'm late | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | eghobo: let's revisit that one in open discussion | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | hello apuimedo | 22:17 |
| apuimedo | hi | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | okay, so from 22:18 UTC to 22:28 UTC (or less) sdake will lead us in a brainstorming exercise | 22:18 |
| sdake | yay | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Collaborative brain storm session on etherpad (#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-functional-test-cases) - time boxed to 10 minutes - sdake to take results and create separate bugs per test case | 22:18 |
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| adrian_otto | proceed | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-functional-test-cases | 22:18 |
| sdake | ok folks log in to etherpad - make sure to put your name in the upper right hand corner so we know who added what | 22:18 |
| apuimedo | (was the network blueprint discussed?) | 22:18 |
| sdake | I'm going to file sepearte bugs for each of these test cases | 22:19 |
| sdake | write as many test cases as you can think of that we should add to the functional gate | 22:19 |
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| adrian_otto | As you can see I bombed the etherpad with a big outline of things | 22:19 |
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| sdake | looks like someone was busy here ;) | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | but that's not use-case specific, it's more of an anti-regression test plan for avoiding mega-problems | 22:20 |
| sdake | ya start fresh at the top | 22:20 |
| sdake | line 12 plz | 22:20 |
| sdake | i'll sort em out later | 22:20 |
| sdake | just write whatever comes to mind | 22:20 |
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| mfalatic | Seems like Adrian's 1-6 are all pretty important and basic. | 22:21 |
| sdake | ok folks, start adding test cases line 12 :) | 22:23 |
| sdake | there is 15 people loggedi nto the etherpad there should be atleast 15 test cases by now :) | 22:23 |
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| adrian_otto | apuimedo: we will get to Blueprint discussion after this | 22:23 |
| apuimedo | good :-) | 22:23 |
| mismith | I'm an admitted lurker…first time at one of these meetings. Pretty cool to see things in action | 22:24 |
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| adrian_otto | mismith: we are happy to have you | 22:24 |
| mismith | Cool. I had my team at Overstock watch your vancouver video in our last meeting :) | 22:24 |
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| sdake | recommend not reading other peoples test cases just put yours in | 22:25 |
| sdake | i'll collate em | 22:25 |
| sdake | is that the right word? | 22:25 |
| sdake | who knows :) | 22:25 |
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| sdake | i'm like an all in one fax machine | 22:25 |
| sdake | taking any test cases :) | 22:26 |
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| sdake | just a quick note, i'm going to leave hese new wishlist bugs unassigned | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | ok, this concludes our timebox for the brainstorm | 22:28 |
| sdake | if folks wnat to pick em up feel free | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for initiating that one sdake | 22:28 |
| sdake | if you want to add more this week, knock yourself out | 22:28 |
| sdake | i'll file the bugs next monday | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | next up | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review | 22:29 |
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| adrian_otto | Tasks/Bugs | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://goo.gl/sIlYla High and Critical Priority Bugs | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | these are the things we can't afford to miss | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | I identified 4 orphans | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | let's see about adopting any that are still orphaned | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | Orphans | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1412380 Magnum Documentation link report 404 error | 22:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1412380 in Magnum "Magnum Documentation link report 404 error " [High,In progress] | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | in progress, but with no owner | 22:30 |
| tcammann_ | documentation 404 makes me sad :( | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | I can fix that one | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | next is | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1444368 Bay status is still CREATE_IN_PROGRESS after stack create failed | 22:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444368 in Magnum "Bay status is still CREATE_IN_PROGRESS after stack create failed" [High,Confirmed] | 22:30 |
| mismith | That 404 comes up for me :) | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | any takers for this one? | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | seems like convergence may actually be the answer | 22:31 |
| tcammann_ | this might be fixed now? | 22:31 |
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| adrian_otto | possible. | 22:31 |
| tcammann_ | need some proper logs to reproduce it etc | 22:32 |
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| adrian_otto | I can set it back to incomplete to ask for steps to reproduce and logs | 22:32 |
| tcammann_ | +1 | 22:32 |
| tcammann_ | need heat logs | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | done | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | tcammann_: please add additional remarks on that bug to guide the submitter to get us exactly what is needed | 22:33 |
| tcammann_ | sure | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | next is | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1451118 magnum throws db exception on failed bay deletion | 22:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451118 in Magnum "magnum throws db exception on failed bay deletion" [High,Triaged] | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | this one wants an owner | 22:34 |
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| adrian_otto | the last orphan I have on the agenda was bogus, so I won't cover that. | 22:35 |
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| adrian_otto | basically we thgouht that scale down events in ResourceGroups caused all nodes to be replaced | 22:35 |
| diga__ | I will take this | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | that was an issue in Heat long ago that has since been fixed | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | thanks diga__ | 22:35 |
| sdake | yjsy odm | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | please assign yourself | 22:35 |
| tcammann_ | oh fantastic :) | 22:35 |
| sdake | that isn't what i thought | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | if you need help let me know | 22:36 |
| diga__ | adrian_otto: welcome! | 22:36 |
| sdake | i thought kubernetes will implode if you delete a minion underneath it :) | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | I proved today that it works properly | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | kubernetes needs to be set up with a proper rc configuration | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | and if you do that, it will heal properly | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | but there is not a heat bug in there | 22:36 |
| adrian_otto | Blueprints | 22:37 |
| sdake | heal properly as in the container persistent data will be moved? | 22:37 |
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| adrian_otto | sdake: no, persistent data is not a feature of k8s so you can only autoscale 12 factor apps | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum Magnum Blueprints | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | each of the essential bp's should get an update from the assigned owner or delegate | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/async-container-operations | 22:38 |
| sdake | what is a 12 factor app? :) | 22:38 |
| tcammann_ | http://12factor.net/ | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: all state is stored in a db | 22:38 |
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| sdake | got it wasn't familiar with that term | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | apmelton: any update on async-container-operations? | 22:39 |
| apmelton | no update, I might be able to start it before k1, but it definitely won't be finished before k1 | 22:39 |
| apmelton | er l1 | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I will re-target | 22:39 |
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| adrian_otto | done | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | next is | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: update on this? | 22:40 |
| sdake | i bounced that to l2 | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks | 22:40 |
| sdake | i got some code | 22:40 |
| sdake | far from complete | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | next | 22:40 |
| sdake | investigating atm | 22:40 |
| sdake | its a big job | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-kubernetes | 22:40 |
| sdake | xl | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: we should break it down into smaller bits | 22:40 |
| sdake | blocked on kumari intro | 22:40 |
| tcammann_ | Also think we should put a formal spec together for this bp | 22:41 |
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| adrian_otto | Madhuri is not here to address the secure-kubernetes blueprint | 22:41 |
| sdake | adrian_otto once I figure out how to decompose it i'll file smaller blueprints for it if you like | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | is anyone here as her delegate? | 22:41 |
| sdake | i can speak for her | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: yes, please, or bug tickets that link to the BP. | 22:41 |
| sdake | we spoke last night on this topic | 22:41 |
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| juggler | she expressed the need to speak with someone in the know with tls | 22:41 |
| sdake | i intro'ed her ot the guy at csco who wrote the guide for tls setup | 22:42 |
| sdake | she needs an intro to a tls cat in google | 22:42 |
| sdake | the three of them should be able to sort it out from there | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I have the action for that | 22:42 |
| juggler | what sdake said :) | 22:42 |
| sdake | atm we believe kubernetes is busted | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | ok, any more discussion on this BP? | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | next | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | Madhuri again | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | Tango | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | sorry | 22:43 |
| Tango | Hi :) | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | Tango: update? | 22:43 |
| Tango | I have several patches for the Heat temlates to configure Kubernetes services in the bay to talk to Neutron | 22:43 |
| Tango | I am adding a few more patches for the conductor to compute the parameters for the templates | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | these are upstream patches, correct? | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | can you please reference them in the BP whiteboard? | 22:43 |
| Tango | I think they are linked already | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | ok, good | 22:44 |
| Tango | I have been testing the feature with the wordpress example: | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | if there are any new ones, please add them there | 22:44 |
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| Tango | https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/tree/master/examples/mysql-wordpress-pd | 22:44 |
| Tango | So for the functional test, I will see if we can run a variation of this. | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | excellent | 22:44 |
| Tango | The OpenStack plugin seems to be still in development. | 22:44 |
| daneyon | upstream patches being #link https://github.com/stackforge/heat-coe-templates | 22:44 |
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| adrian_otto | this is targeted for kilo | 22:44 |
| Tango | There was a patch included in the latest release 0.19, and I see at least another WIP patch. | 22:44 |
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| adrian_otto | I would like to pull it into liberty-2 | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | is that realistic? | 22:45 |
| apmelton | when's liberty-2 end? | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | 2 months form now | 22:45 |
| sdake | july31 | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | *from | 22:45 |
| Tango | For the external LB? | 22:45 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, Tango | 22:46 |
| sdake | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 22:46 |
| Tango | We can get everything from our side | 22:46 |
| sdake | we need it from kube side before they pull triggeron 1.0 | 22:46 |
| Tango | but there will be some dependency on Kubernetes code | 22:46 |
| mfalatic | FYI, I'm interested in taking on https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1444368 | 22:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444368 in Magnum "Bay status is still CREATE_IN_PROGRESS after stack create failed" [High,Incomplete] | 22:47 |
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| adrian_otto | mfalatic: please touch base with diga__ on that and split the work as needed | 22:47 |
| Tango | Currently, when I try Kubernetes version 0.18 or 0.19 on our Fedora Atomic VM, the services crash with: | 22:47 |
| Tango | panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | unles he was volunteering for something else | 22:47 |
| Tango | Not sure if the image needs updating, so I am building a new Fedora Atomic image with tutelage from sdake | 22:47 |
| mfalatic | oh | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | Tango: let's follow up on the ML about this | 22:48 |
| Tango | ok | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | best way to deal with situations like this is to make them highly visible | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | can I assign you an action? | 22:48 |
| Tango | sure | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | #action Tango to start and ML discussion to explain trouble with Magnum/K8s integration for LB (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb) | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | thanks | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | next | 22:49 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-swarm-scheduling (diga__) | 22:49 |
| diga__ | yes | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | I think this is actually solved, and needs to be withdrawn, correct? | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | or is there more to it? | 22:49 |
| diga__ | yes, but never got time to work on this, please set target for l2 | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | ok, retargeting | 22:50 |
| sdake | i htink it is solved by swarm | 22:50 |
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| tcammann_ | At the summit didn't we discuss to only use native scheduling? | 22:50 |
| sdake | we agreed at summit we wouldn't do custom scheduling | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | done | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: +1 | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | at least not at this stage | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | next | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-docker (apmelton) | 22:51 |
| mfalatic | Ok, so sounds like diga__ is working https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1444368 and just isn't names in launchpad for some reason. | 22:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444368 in Magnum "Bay status is still CREATE_IN_PROGRESS after stack create failed" [High,Incomplete] | 22:51 |
| adrian_otto | this is in new status | 22:51 |
| apmelton | not started | 22:51 |
| diga__ | adrian_otto: yes | 22:52 |
| sdake | apmelton there is a guide kicking around somewhere how to do tls | 22:52 |
| sdake | apmelton recommend reading before beginning | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | want to pull in volunteers to help? | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | owning a blueprint only means that you have to respond to status inquiries and coordinate the effort | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | you can get as many contributors to help you as you want | 22:52 |
| sdake | *can convince :) | 22:53 |
| apmelton | actually, this piece is going to be pretty dependent on how k8s handles tls | 22:53 |
| diga__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1444368 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1451118 | 22:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444368 in Magnum "Bay status is still CREATE_IN_PROGRESS after stack create failed" [High,Incomplete] | 22:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1451118 in Magnum "magnum throws db exception on failed bay deletion" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15) | 22:53 |
| tcammann_ | apmelton: +1 | 22:53 |
| apmelton | so who ever is working on that can probably modify the swarm template pretty similarly | 22:53 |
| diga__ | mfalatic: both are same I guess | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's link them together for now | 22:54 |
| diga__ | okay | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: can you do that please? | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | associate secure-docker and secure-kubernetes | 22:54 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: sure, let me figure out how | 22:55 |
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| adrian_otto | that concludes review of the Essential BPs | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | we have 5 min remaining | 22:55 |
| juggler | sdake: do you have the recommended reading link handy? thanks | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | normally we do Open Disucssion here. | 22:55 |
| sdake | juggler define handy | 22:55 |
| apuimedo | I didn't see the discussion about the network one | 22:55 |
| juggler | as in an available URL :) | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | but I have one orphan in High priorty: | 22:55 |
| apuimedo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/native-docker-network | 22:56 |
| sdake | juggler i think tis on the wiki | 22:56 |
| mismith | I would love to hear about any plans for RDO packaging for Magnum | 22:56 |
| sdake | if you cant find it there ping me | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: yes, that one | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | I need a volunteer to drive that one | 22:56 |
| sdake | mr smith i packaged magnum for rdo | 22:56 |
| juggler | hey mismith welcome | 22:56 |
| mismith | The quickstart documentation is all devstack centric - not very helpful for us operators | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/native-docker-network | 22:56 |
| apuimedo | adrian_otto: which one? | 22:56 |
| mismith | sdake: Oh yeah? | 22:56 |
| apuimedo | ah | 22:56 |
| apuimedo | I gave a presentation yesterday at the OpenStack Israel Conference | 22:57 |
| mismith | sdake: Where can one find the RPMs or srpms? | 22:57 |
| apuimedo | http://presentation.midokura.me/openstack_israel_2015/#/ | 22:57 |
| daneyon | i am in the process of adding #link https://github.com/contiv/netplugin to #link https://github.com/stackforge/heat-coe-templates | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | I will start Open Discussion now. If you can help with native-docker-network, please update the BP, or see me. | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | #link Open Discussion | 22:57 |
| tcammann_ | Any plans on the midcycle meetup adrian_otto? | 22:57 |
| apuimedo | http://presentation.midokura.me/openstack_israel_2015/#/23 | 22:57 |
| sdake | mismith https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/sdake/openstack-magnum/ | 22:57 |
| apuimedo | starts the magnum part | 22:57 |
| sdake | mismith the systemd stuff is untested | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | tcammann_: I will begin planning for that this week. | 22:57 |
| sdake | feel free to modify and send me patches :) | 22:57 |
| eghobo | mismith: just curios is it just for RHEL or Fedora/CentOS too? | 22:57 |
| daneyon | I think it could be a good fit for Magnum networking... meeting a lot of the needs mentioned in #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/066805.html | 22:57 |
| mismith | sdake: Great I'll check it out. We use CentOS | 22:58 |
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| apuimedo | adrian_otto: I would be willing to put a lot of time into the networking part | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | #adrian_otto to circulate a poll for dates to hold Magnum MidCycle Meetup for Liberty | 22:58 |
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| adrian_otto | apuimedo: excellent | 22:58 |
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| apuimedo | about the three options in the blueprint | 22:59 |
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| sdake | t-1 minutes | 22:59 |
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| adrian_otto | sorry for the super full agenda this week | 22:59 |
| apuimedo | I feel like we should go for 2 and/or 3, | 22:59 |
| mismith | sdake: Do you know how the RDO folks pick up packages like yours and add it to the official RDO ones? | 22:59 |
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| adrian_otto | our next meeting is Tuesday 2015-06-23 at 1600 UTC, sdake will be our chair | 22:59 |
| sdake | mismisth there is a rdo mailing list for such questions | 23:00 |
| mismith | ok thanks all | 23:00 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today! | 23:00 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 23:00:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-06-16-22.01.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-06-16-22.01.txt | 23:00 |
| apmelton | o/ | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-06-16-22.01.log.html | 23:00 |
| tcammann_ | nn | 23:00 |
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| sdake | mismith the short answer is rdo is sorting out how to package the big tent and maintain it | 23:00 |
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| sdake | and they dont yet have a plan in place for managing execution of that | 23:00 |
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| juggler | sdake: i think mismith is gone | 23:01 |
| sdake | i see that | 23:01 |
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