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| n0ano | #startmeeting nova-scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 13 14:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
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| n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 14:01 |
| n0ano | edleafe, are you mocking me :-) | 14:01 |
| edleafe | whoops - sorry - there was a lag | 14:01 |
| edleafe | internet is flaky today :( | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | o/ | 14:01 |
| n0ano | I blame everything on the internet (except for those things I blame on MSoft) | 14:02 |
| edleafe | jaypipes said he won't be able to make it today | 14:02 |
| n0ano | oh well, hopefully next time | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | I have the internet under my desk - it seems fine - I just looked | 14:02 |
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| edleafe | PaulMurray: well, maybe the problem's that your desk is too far away from my laptop | 14:03 |
| n0ano | PaulMurray, have you check that the pipes are free of obstruction? | 14:03 |
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| n0ano | bauzas, YT | 14:03 |
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| edleafe | PaulMurray: use some of this: http://j.mp/1Hqlida | 14:04 |
| n0ano | well, let's get started | 14:04 |
| edleafe | n0ano: yeah, bauzas is celebrating Bastille Day Eve | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, I clicked a link like that already today - I'm not falling for that one twice in one day | 14:04 |
| * PaulMurray embarrased | 14:05 | |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: but you can trust *me*! | 14:05 |
| n0ano | edleafe, ahh, makes sense, we'll give him all the ARs then | 14:05 |
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| n0ano | #topic Liberty specs | 14:05 |
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| n0ano | if the priority page is up to date we only have 2 priority specs that are still open https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:06 |
| n0ano | 1- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/ | 14:06 |
| n0ano | 2- https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/request-spec-object,n,z | 14:06 |
| edleafe | n0ano: the second is just a list of patches, not specs? | 14:07 |
| n0ano | actually 1 is a patch and 2 is a spec so, assuming we can get reviews on these, I think we're in good shape as far as priority tasks are concerned | 14:07 |
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| n0ano | well, 2 seems to start with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145528/ | 14:08 |
| * n0ano typing too fast | 14:09 | |
| n0ano | 2 is the space but there is a link to the patches for it on the priority page | 14:09 |
| n0ano | last I talked to bauzas on that he felt confident he would get the patches out in time and didn't need any help on them | 14:09 |
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| n0ano | I'm not `too` concerned, I think it's just a matter of doing the work for now although 1 (destination on migrations) needs some reviews | 14:12 |
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| n0ano | unless anyone has anything else on priorities let's move on | 14:14 |
| edleafe | move on! | 14:14 |
| n0ano | #topic mid-cycle meetup | 14:14 |
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| edleafe | I have something new that I would like to add to the mid-cycle agenda | 14:15 |
| edleafe | I've been having talks off and on with jaypipes about a radical change to the whole compute_node resource tracking and scheduler updating. | 14:15 |
| n0ano | edleafe, cool, what is it? | 14:15 |
| edleafe | The main idea is to create a Cassandra deployment to hold all the information. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | This will allow as-close-to-immediate updates as possible. | 14:15 |
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| edleafe | I want to talk about this at the mid-cycle. This is still just a POC, so I want to get an idea of what sort of situations would be convincing that this needs to be explored further; e.g., running multiple schedulers w/o racing | 14:15 |
| edleafe | I met with some of the Cassandra people to get a reality check on my ideas, and they agreed that this is a good fit for what Cassandra offers, and would be a great deal more efficient for this than Rabbit/MySQL currently gets us. | 14:16 |
| n0ano | edleafe, would this be an internal implementation or would it affect the APIs | 14:16 |
| edleafe | It's a pretty radical change, so I want to have some hard data before even thinking about writing code for nova | 14:16 |
| edleafe | n0ano: it would affect how things work internally a lot | 14:17 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: it would not affect external APIs at all | 14:17 |
| n0ano | sounds like a perfect topic for the mid-cycle, have you updated the etherpad with this? | 14:17 |
| edleafe | not yet | 14:17 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, I would like to know more, I won't be at the mid cycle | 14:17 |
| edleafe | just had some more email conversations with Jay this morning | 14:17 |
| edleafe | wanted to run it by the group first | 14:17 |
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| n0ano | I'm not familiar with Cassandra so I'd have to research that a little before I can intelligently comment | 14:18 |
| edleafe | n0ano: understood | 14:19 |
| n0ano | my biggest concern would be APIs but, if it doesn't modify them, even if it involves a lot of change, that's basically just implmentation | 14:19 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, I would like to know why it makes a big difference - I assume you mean more than just the communication | 14:19 |
| edleafe | I spoke with the tech people at DataStax (the company behind Cassandra) and they are willing to have a tech hangout where people can ask questions about Cassandra | 14:20 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: for one, it would eliminate the raciness of running multiple schedulers | 14:20 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: two, it would eliminate the need for compute to update the scheduler | 14:20 |
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| edleafe | three, it would allow for a more HA setup, since there wouldn't be a single point of failure | 14:21 |
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| edleafe | PaulMurray: and you bring up my reason for discussing this at the midcycle | 14:22 |
| edleafe | I'd like to get a list of known pain points and/or limitations of the current design | 14:22 |
| edleafe | and then design tests that would show the improvement (if any) | 14:22 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, I know what cassandra is, so I would like to understand if it impacts the compute node end - clearly you have to get data into cassandra | 14:22 |
| edleafe | if this is successful, by the time Tokyo rolls around, we could have a much more informed discussion | 14:23 |
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| n0ano | PaulMurray, kind of what I was thinking, compute may not have to update the scheduler but it has to update something | 14:23 |
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| n0ano | I think a public email thread before the meetup so everyone has a change to think about this would be good | 14:23 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: n0ano: yes, exactly. Compute would post its status to Cassandra, and the scheduler(s) would have that (almost) immediately available | 14:24 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: sure, that is the plan | 14:24 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, as opposed to compute update the scheduler and the scheduler immediately has the data :-) | 14:24 |
| edleafe | n0ano: the one thing I *don't* want to do is get mired down in implementation concerns before we even have a chance to see if it is better | 14:25 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: for some values of _immediate_ | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, is it as fast as /dev/null | 14:25 |
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| PaulMurray | :) | 14:25 |
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| edleafe | any change is painful, and we're really good at identifying why this will be hard | 14:25 |
| edleafe | I want this to be a POC | 14:26 |
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| n0ano | I'm willing to hold off comment until I know more about Cassandra and you start the email thread | 14:26 |
| edleafe | I want people to say "If it can do x, I might consider it further" | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, I would stick clear of words like "immediately" and identify what the difference is | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | looking forward to it | 14:26 |
| edleafe | if I run the POC and it isn't better, then no harm done | 14:26 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: well, sure | 14:27 |
| n0ano | edleafe, I'd be more interested in `this is a current problem and this is why the new proposal fixes that problem' | 14:27 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: this is a little less formal that an email to the ML | 14:27 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: yes!!! | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, I assume you have seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs | 14:27 |
| edleafe | that's what I want from the midcycle | 14:27 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: heh | 14:27 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: but yeah, that's the perception people have | 14:28 |
| edleafe | they lump Cassanda, MongoDB, redis, etc., all into the same 'NoSQL' camp | 14:28 |
| PaulMurray | edleafe, what I mean is it helps to understand what is actually happening and what is being changed | 14:29 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: sure, but that's getting ahead of ourselves a bit, IMO | 14:29 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: like n0ano said, let's identify the current limitations, and try something new | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | we were moving towards using an in memory copy of data, so it would be interesting to see what is different in what yo upropose | 14:30 |
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| edleafe | if that helps, great. If not, let's try something else | 14:30 |
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| n0ano | certainly an interesting idea, let's see where it goes | 14:31 |
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| n0ano | #action edleafe to add Cassandra for the scheduler to the mid-cycle agenda | 14:31 |
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| * n0ano wonders why my actions never do anything | 14:32 | |
| PaulMurray | n0ano, ... and edleafe to start an ML thread | 14:32 |
| edleafe | #action edleafe to start a mailing list thread to lay the groundwork for Cassandra discussion at mid-cycle | 14:32 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: way ahead of you :) | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | not in my partial order | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | :) | 14:32 |
| n0ano | OK, let's move on | 14:33 |
| edleafe | n0ano: actions don't echo in the meeting. They just appear in the summary | 14:33 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, really? I hate UI with no positive feedback, oh well | 14:33 |
| n0ano | moving on... | 14:33 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 14:33 |
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| n0ano | anything new for today? | 14:33 |
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| PaulMurray | n0ano, I wasn't here last week so I didn't get to say I finished the resource tracker objects | 14:34 |
| edleafe | not new, but here's what jaypipes wrote before the meeting: " | 14:34 |
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| n0ano | PaulMurray, cool, are you awaiting reviews? | 14:34 |
| edleafe | Unfortunately, I need to go pick my wife up at the airport in Tampa and so will miss our weekly scheduler IRC meeting. Not much news from my end, other than I will try to finish up the resource objects patch series this week, and continue to do reviews on request-spec patch series." | 14:34 |
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| PaulMurray | n0ano, no, but just noticed I didn't remove self.conductor_api - so I will do one more to do that :) | 14:35 |
| n0ano | PaulMurray, always something :-) | 14:35 |
| PaulMurray | n0ano, its only the variable and the import | 14:35 |
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| n0ano | OK, I'm hearing crickets | 14:37 |
| n0ano | one final thought, I think we should cancel next week's meeting, that'll be a travel day for the mid-cycle, follow up on IRC & ML till then | 14:38 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: +1 | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | n0ano, edleafe sure - I will not be there, so enjoy and I'll catch up in a couple of weeks | 14:38 |
| n0ano | tnx everyone, we'll talk again soon | 14:38 |
| edleafe | PaulMurray: there will be some sort of audio hookup | 14:38 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 13 14:38:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-07-13-14.00.html | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-07-13-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-07-13-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: check out the Minutes - you'll see the action items | 14:39 |
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| dims_ | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| dims_ | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, | 16:00 |
| dims_ | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, jogo, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 13 16:00:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| dims_ | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| ihrachyshka | o/ | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| zzzeek | o/ | 16:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | sup | 16:00 |
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| droyal | hi | 16:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | 0/ | 16:01 |
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| stevemar | dims_: o/ | 16:01 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:01 |
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| dims_ | so, we have almost recovered from mock 1.1.0 release issues. | 16:02 |
| dims_ | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
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| bknudson | none for keystone that I can think of | 16:02 |
| kragniz | o/ | 16:03 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:03 |
| dims_ | thanks bknudson | 16:03 |
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| dims_ | any other liaisons around? | 16:03 |
| ihrachyshka | none for neutron, pymysql unstable job is either killed or to be killed since known issues were fixed | 16:03 |
| dims_ | ihrachyshka: cool | 16:03 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:04 |
| dims_ | hi e0ne | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:04 |
| dims_ | jungleboyj: e0ne: any red flags from last week? | 16:04 |
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| dims_ | switching topics otherwise | 16:05 |
| dims_ | #topic py26 support and jobs | 16:05 |
| dims_ | #link http://markmail.org/message/eqcc7akocomipvrx | 16:05 |
| e0ne | dims_: not from me. may be jungleboyj has something | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | dims_: I don't think so. I need to tackle looking at the genconfig stuff. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Have that on the list for the next day or so. | 16:05 |
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| dims_ | thanks jungleboyj e0ne | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | Carry on. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | ;-) | 16:05 |
| dims_ | dhellmann: lifeless: are we going to nuke support right away? | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | so for futurist https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200313/ (py26 gone) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ just merged | 16:06 |
| dims_ | ref link about has an email thread from lifeless | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | dims_: I may be behind on that thread, but I don't think we've established if that's safe. | 16:06 |
| stevemar | jungleboyj: genconfig for cinder? | 16:06 |
| dims_ | dhellmann: what would be our concerns that we can take to the thread | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | what libraries are still supporting it? oslo.utils, oslo.serialization oslo.config? | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | stevemar: Yeah, getting the config generator to work properly. We are still back on the old one. | 16:07 |
| zzzeek | ihrachyshka: what links can I look at to learn about the specific resolutions for neutron + pymysql ? | 16:07 |
| ihrachyshka | dhellmann, assuming we capped everything, we should be safe. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | It aint working right. | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | dims_: we have some oslo libs used in client libs, and so we really need to decide if it's safe to drop 2.6 support for the client libs in master | 16:07 |
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| dims_ | so python-* will need to rip off 26 support first | 16:07 |
| bknudson | keystoneclient still has a py26 job | 16:07 |
| dims_ | then we would be next | 16:07 |
| bknudson | and it uses oslo libs | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | and the answer to that depends on whether we expect people to be installing via pip, and if so how to ensure they know the latest version is not supported on 2.6 (major version bump) | 16:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | do we also disable py26 for clients? Last time I brought up this question in murano (we still test client in murano against 2.6) I was told, that clients are a special case, cause we want them to work on as diverse environments as possible | 16:07 |
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| dims_ | kzaitsev_mb: y, that's the question in the email thread | 16:08 |
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| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb: right, though that was before we had stable branches for the clients | 16:08 |
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| dhellmann | so the question is, are stable branch versions of the clients good enough for folks on 2.6? | 16:08 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann: problem was that not all python clients have versions already cut from their stable branches that we can tell people to use | 16:09 |
| dims_ | if i remember right | 16:09 |
| ihrachyshka | zzzeek, I think mostly it's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191540/ , maybe armax@ or kevinbenton will be able to provide more links to patches for pymysql + neutron | 16:09 |
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| dhellmann | dims_: ok, that's solvable | 16:09 |
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| dims_ | so, step 1) make releases from stable branches, 2) yank py26 jobs from python-* then 3) yank py26 jobs from oslo-* | 16:10 |
| stevemar | jungleboyj: shouldn't be that bad! | 16:10 |
| dims_ | from what i can tell | 16:10 |
| bknudson | new releases on stable/kilo? | 16:11 |
| dims_ | finally cleanup tox.inis | 16:11 |
| dims_ | bknudson: y | 16:11 |
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| bknudson | that would require a lot of backporting... not sure how much it would be for keystoneclient | 16:11 |
| dims_ | right | 16:12 |
| dims_ | that's the problem | 16:12 |
| bknudson | maybe a new branch would be better | 16:12 |
| dims_ | we are far away from stable/liberty :) | 16:12 |
| ihrachyshka | bknudson, stable/kilo is for backporting, what's the deal? I don't get | 16:12 |
| bknudson | stable/26-eol | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | dims_: we could remove all of the jobs at the same time, but yeah | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: stable branch names have to match, otherwise the code is tested against master | 16:13 |
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| dims_ | k, let's chime in on the thread since this is a larger openstack discussion | 16:13 |
| dims_ | #topic Releases for this week | 16:13 |
| dims_ | Releases for this week. Here are the unreleased changes | 16:13 |
| dims_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases | 16:13 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann: once that oslo.log review lands, can i make releases for the week? | 16:14 |
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| dims_ | harlowja_at_home: please help vet the version numbers since i gave a huge bump last week to a couple of libs :) | 16:14 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dims_, ;) | 16:14 |
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| dhellmann | dims_: if the tests are passing, I think so | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | hehe, yes that :-P | 16:15 |
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| dims_ | all, please look through those changes just in case there's something controversial | 16:15 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dims_, for futurist, a couple reviews are merging (that had depends-on removal of 26) so i guess wait till those are in | 16:15 |
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| dims_ | fyi, i am running unit tests with a handful of projects against oslo-* master here - https://travis-ci.org/dims/ | 16:16 |
| dims_ | harlowja_at_home: k please ping me when they are in. i'll mark the ether pad saying i should wait for you | 16:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims_, np, i marked etherpad | 16:17 |
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| dims_ | harlowja_at_home: thanks, i added a warning on the top as well | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool beans | 16:17 |
| dims_ | switching topics | 16:18 |
| dims_ | #topic New libraries and drivers - how is it going? | 16:18 |
| dims_ | #link specs - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ | 16:18 |
| dims_ | #link library audit - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E/edit#gid=0 | 16:18 |
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| ozamiatin | dims_: me and victors are working on zmq functional gate fixing in new driver | 16:18 |
| ozamiatin | dims_: droyal works on unit tests | 16:18 |
| dims_ | ozamiatin: nice! thanks for coordinating the work | 16:18 |
| ozamiatin | dims_: so, I'd like to thank them both for joining zmq driver development | 16:18 |
| ozamiatin | droyal, victors: ^^ thanks guys | 16:18 |
| droyal | happy to help | 16:18 |
| * harlowja_at_home closed launchpad stuff for futurist & automaton so should be good to go for those | 16:18 | |
| dims_ | thanks droyal and victors | 16:19 |
| dims_ | ozamiatin: has the email thread died down about the architecture? | 16:19 |
| ozamiatin | dims_: yeah I think so | 16:20 |
| dims_ | thanks | 16:20 |
| Alec | there are a few email threads regarding the use of fanout in oslo messaging | 16:20 |
| dims_ | anyone from oslo.service/cache/reports? | 16:20 |
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| dims_ | Alec: ack | 16:20 |
| Alec | and one suggesting we put some work in fixing teh API documentation | 16:20 |
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| Alec | what is the best way to move forward there? | 16:21 |
| dims_ | Alec: ozamiatin: turn them into launchpad bugs so we don't forget? | 16:21 |
| ozamiatin | dims_, Alec: ok | 16:21 |
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| dims_ | bknudson: stevemar oslo.cache doing ok? i saw the new dict backend for nova go in | 16:22 |
| Alec | ok i can help write down the issues that need to be fixed, just need to get started smewhere | 16:22 |
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| dims_ | sounds good Alec | 16:22 |
| bknudson | dims_: I've got a couple of changes proposed to oslo.cache that affect the public API | 16:22 |
| stevemar | dims_: yeah, just a few minor change left | 16:22 |
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| dims_ | bknudson: i added a dsvm job per dhellmann's suggestion | 16:23 |
| stevemar | bknudson: oh did you want to talk about that region parameter? | 16:23 |
| bknudson | dims_: and then I think it's ready to go... probably needs review of the docs if they're adequate | 16:23 |
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| dims_ | bknudson: ack, i'll ask a few people to review docs | 16:23 |
| dims_ | #action Dims to request a few folks to go through oslo.cache docs | 16:24 |
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| bknudson | stevemar: I posted a review for dealing with the wacky region global -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199793/ | 16:24 |
| stevemar | bknudson: yeah, looking at it no | 16:24 |
| stevemar | w | 16:24 |
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| stevemar | bknudson: it was in reply to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195873/14/keystone/backends.py right? | 16:24 |
| dims_ | harlowja_at_home: futurist and automaton picking up consumers? | 16:25 |
| bknudson | stevemar: yes, that answers my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195873/14/keystone/backends.py | 16:25 |
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| stevemar | bknudson: otay | 16:25 |
| dims_ | switching topics | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims_, taskflow +automaton (removing old code) sputnik13 is working on, otherwise yup, so far so good | 16:25 |
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| dims_ | cool | 16:26 |
| dims_ | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:26 |
| dims_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-priorities-tracking | 16:26 |
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| dims_ | Any stuck reviews? or specs? | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196338/ would be nice for folks | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | if anyone wants to look at ^ | 16:27 |
| dims_ | i am periodically reviewing really old reviews | 16:27 |
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| stevemar | bknudson: dammit, now i have to change all my get_memoization_decorator calls :P | 16:27 |
| dims_ | starred it josh. will do | 16:27 |
| dims_ | k opening up the floow | 16:28 |
| dims_ | #topic Open discussion | 16:28 |
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| dims_ | Anyone coming to keystone or nova mid-cycle? | 16:28 |
| stevemar | me! | 16:28 |
| dims_ | i have moose stickers! | 16:28 |
| morganfainberg | keystone needs a mascot :( | 16:28 |
| stevemar | i'll take one of your meese stickers | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Moose Stickers! | 16:28 |
| dims_ | printed a fresh set thanks to dhellmann's referral to moo.com | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | I will add it with the Cinder stickers on my office door. | 16:29 |
| droyal | me an a few people from work will be at OSCON next week, if any of you will be there, and it's convenient, I'd like to meet face-to-face just to say hi | 16:29 |
| dims_ | we should have a party@openstack.org (apache.org has one!) for coordinating such stuff :) | 16:30 |
| zzzeek | ihrachyshka: thanks | 16:30 |
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| stevemar | dims_: bknudson the oslo.cache patches are approved | 16:31 |
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| stevemar | think we're good for 0.2.0 ? | 16:31 |
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| dims_ | stevemar: k will wait for those to land | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | jecarey, if u interested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197668/ (not sure where this will end-up, ha) | 16:32 |
| stevemar | dims_: oh we already had a 0.2.0! | 16:32 |
| jecarey | harlowja_at_home, I'll take a look | 16:32 |
| dims_ | stevemar: added a note to wait to cut 0.3.0 - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases | 16:33 |
| dims_ | i should probably ask people to add their vote there too :) | 16:33 |
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| dims_ | typically i start a bunch of tests sat/sun and update that etherpad with new versions and SHA on mon morning | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | jecarey, coool, my comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197668/7/nova/states.py i think still apply, but guess nikola not loooking at them right now, lol | 16:35 |
| dims_ | that's all i had. thanks everyone. we can continue on #openstack-oslo | 16:35 |
| dims_ | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 13 16:35:33 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-07-13-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-07-13-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-07-13-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:36 |
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| sputnik13 | +1 for party@openstack.org | 16:46 |
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| sputnik13 | #startmeeting cue | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 13 18:01:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sputnik13. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cue)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cue' | 18:01 |
| davideagnello | here | 18:01 |
| sputnik13 | o/ | 18:01 |
| dkalleg | o/ | 18:01 |
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| abitha | here here | 18:02 |
| vipul | o/ | 18:03 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Action Items | 18:03 |
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| sputnik13 | #info http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-06-29-18.02.html | 18:04 |
| sputnik13 | #info AI #1 davideagnello to follow up on merge of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195991/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195992/ | 18:04 |
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| sputnik13 | it looks like the first merged but the second didn't | 18:04 |
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| davideagnello | first was merged, we then found a couple more issues with the gate job | 18:05 |
| sputnik13 | it's still WIP | 18:05 |
| davideagnello | Sergey set it as WIP last week | 18:05 |
| sputnik13 | any idea what's wrong with ti? | 18:06 |
| sputnik13 | s/ti/it | 18:06 |
| davideagnello | my latest fix was merged a couple of days ago, issue with CI gate job in reference to a rally script was wrong | 18:06 |
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| davideagnello | I have ran with the latest changes, it looks like it's now trying to run our tests but their is a failure on importing the correct rally libraries | 18:06 |
| vipul | latest failure: http://logs.openstack.org/92/195992/1/experimental/gate-cue-integrate-dsvm-rally/cd8c54a/console.html#_2015-07-13_05_53_30_532 | 18:06 |
| davideagnello | as of today, looking into what is required | 18:06 |
| vipul | it's trying to run a .yaml scenario | 18:07 |
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| vipul | which doesn't make sense.. | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | typo? | 18:07 |
| sputnik13 | or incorrect use of variable expansion? | 18:07 |
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| davideagnello | possibly, I will followup with Rally group while looking into it | 18:08 |
| sputnik13 | ok | 18:08 |
| sputnik13 | #action davideagnello to follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195992/1 getting merged to enable rally gate job | 18:08 |
| sputnik13 | #info AI #2 sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka | 18:09 |
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| sputnik13 | not yet done, will start filling in today in addition to researching auth mechanisms for Kafka and QPID | 18:10 |
| sputnik13 | expect to have it done this week | 18:10 |
| davideagnello | ok | 18:11 |
| sputnik13 | #action sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka | 18:11 |
| sputnik13 | kicking the can a little further :) | 18:12 |
| sputnik13 | #info AI #3 esmute__ to follow up with patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194324/) and ensure it gets merged | 18:12 |
| sputnik13 | it looks like the patch merged so we'll mark this done | 18:12 |
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| sputnik13 | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194324/ merged as of 2015/06/30 | 18:13 |
| sputnik13 | ok, that's it for Action Items, any questions? concerns? | 18:13 |
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| sputnik13 | go on to discussion topics? | 18:13 |
| davideagnello | yup | 18:13 |
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| vipul | nope i'm good | 18:14 |
| abitha | yes | 18:14 |
| dkalleg | No topics from me | 18:14 |
| sputnik13 | Impromptu discussion topic, vipul and I were talking about moving the meeting | 18:14 |
| sputnik13 | or making it every other week | 18:14 |
| vipul | Let's find some time that's not monday | 18:15 |
| sputnik13 | which day of the week works best? | 18:15 |
| vipul | i got a topic about making rally voting.. if we can actually ever do that | 18:15 |
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| vipul | but i'll wait for my turn | 18:16 |
| sputnik13 | ok :) | 18:16 |
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| sputnik13 | seems like 11 on tuesday is fairly open | 18:16 |
| sputnik13 | as far as openstack meeting rooms | 18:16 |
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| vipul | ok i'm good with that | 18:17 |
| sputnik13 | or afternoon around 4pm pacific is open for all the days | 18:17 |
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| sputnik13 | didn't we used to have it on tuesday anyway? | 18:17 |
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| vipul | we did... | 18:17 |
| sputnik13 | I forget why we moved to Monday, seemed like a good idea at the time | 18:18 |
| abitha | but we have our sprint planning from 10-12 every other week right? should we move that then? | 18:18 |
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| vipul | abitha: sputnik13 i think we should do everything (except cue meeting) mondays | 18:19 |
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| vipul | closeout, retro, planning | 18:19 |
| sputnik13 | right, that's the plan going forward | 18:19 |
| abitha | okay | 18:19 |
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| vipul | are we on open discussions? | 18:20 |
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| vipul | maybe topic change sputnik13 | 18:20 |
| sputnik13 | ohhh | 18:20 |
| sputnik13 | yes | 18:20 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Discussion: New meeting time | 18:20 |
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| sputnik13 | #startvote move meeting to tuesday, yes or no? | 18:20 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: move meeting to tuesday, yes or no? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 18:20 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 18:20 |
| sputnik13 | #vote yes | 18:21 |
| abitha | #vote yes | 18:21 |
| davideagnello | #vote yes | 18:21 |
| vipul | #vote yes | 18:21 |
| dkalleg | #vote yes | 18:21 |
| sputnik13 | #endvote | 18:21 |
| openstack | Voted on "move meeting to tuesday, yes or no?" Results are | 18:21 |
| sputnik13 | the suspense is killing me | 18:21 |
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| sputnik13 | ok, I'll call it it's unanimous | 18:22 |
| sputnik13 | #agreed moving meeting to Tuesday 11am pacific time | 18:22 |
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| sputnik13 | #topic Discussion: make rally gate voting? | 18:23 |
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| sputnik13 | vipul want to kick it off? | 18:23 |
| vipul | Yea should we? The issue is there is a dependency to cueclient | 18:23 |
| vipul | so when we make an api change.. which goes into openstack/cue.. we need a corresponding client change | 18:24 |
| vipul | (if we want the scenario tests to be part of the api change0 | 18:24 |
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| vipul | and not knowing enough about the cross-project dependency 'feature' i don't know if we can make two patches dependent across repos and if the gates will actually pull the right patchsets | 18:24 |
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| davideagnello | a good example is the end_point rename to endpoint in our api | 18:25 |
| sputnik13 | well, we can make the two patches dependent across repos, but the order of the merge needs to be correct | 18:25 |
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| davideagnello | if we had a rally voting test, we would have to override it in order to get it merged | 18:26 |
| vipul | right.. the rally tests woudl fail unless gerrit is smart enough to pull the right cue client change | 18:26 |
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| sputnik13 | ah right, because gerrit would need to use the dependent patch | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | while running the tests | 18:27 |
| davideagnello | yup | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | fair point | 18:27 |
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| vipul | so we need to confirm this before we make voting.. | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | perhaps it's something to follow up on with infra? | 18:28 |
| vipul | sounds like an action | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | indeed | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | davideagnello? | 18:28 |
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| sputnik13 | can you follow up on that as part of the rally stuff? | 18:29 |
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| davideagnello | ok | 18:29 |
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| sputnik13 | I christen thee The Rally Expert | 18:29 |
| sputnik13 | :) | 18:29 |
| davideagnello | hahaha ok, will followup and find what we would require | 18:30 |
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| sputnik13 | #action davideagnello to investigate whether Gerrit jobs can pull cross-repo dependent patches as part of a gate (e.g. Rally) | 18:31 |
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| sputnik13 | #info when a change is required in both cue and python-cueclient, the rally job on cue may fail until python-cueclient is merged, unless Gerrit can handle pulling the appropriate version automatically | 18:32 |
| sputnik13 | vipul: so if gerrit doesn't do this, do we keep it non-voting until it can? | 18:32 |
| vipul | i would think so | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | generally, changes that have dependencies like these are not that frequent | 18:33 |
| vipul | but it's painful when you have them | 18:33 |
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| vipul | requires a lot of coordination.. and making sure the client goes in first, etc. | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | right, but there is a workaround, get the client merged then cue | 18:33 |
| vipul | then rechecks... hours lost | 18:34 |
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| sputnik13 | although depending on the time lapsed between the two, there is a window where there are incompatible versions in the wild | 18:34 |
| vipul | let's see how other projects are handling it too.. if they actually vote | 18:34 |
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| sputnik13 | ok | 18:35 |
| davideagnello | last time I checked, I don't think they did. will check again | 18:35 |
| vipul | ok thx | 18:35 |
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| sputnik13 | #action davideagnello to investigate whether other openstack projects' rally gates are voting | 18:35 |
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| vipul | moving on? | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | yup | 18:37 |
| sputnik13 | other topics? | 18:37 |
| vipul | we are in openstack now | 18:37 |
| sputnik13 | if not next is bug triage | 18:37 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Cue is openstack/cue | 18:37 |
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| sputnik13 | woo hooo | 18:37 |
| vipul | yay! | 18:37 |
| davideagnello | nice! | 18:38 |
| vipul | things aren't that smooth yet.. cuz of the mock library issues | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | we're milking every last drop from this event ;) | 18:38 |
| vipul | tests are failing | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | vipul passing now | 18:38 |
| vipul | cueclient failing | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | or they should be | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | oh | 18:38 |
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| sputnik13 | doh | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | I'll look at that | 18:38 |
| vipul | the nice thing is all open patches got retargeted | 18:39 |
| sputnik13 | yup, and stackforge/cue redirects to openstack/cue | 18:39 |
| sputnik13 | but we probably should repoint our repos at some point | 18:39 |
| vipul | Yep, add a new remote | 18:40 |
| sputnik13 | not urgent though given the auto redirect | 18:40 |
| vipul | but patches like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195992/1/tests/gate_hook.sh davideagnello need to be updated | 18:40 |
| sputnik13 | don't you have to reset the upstream remote for each branch? | 18:40 |
| vipul | from stackforge/cue-dashboard to openstack/cue-dashboard | 18:40 |
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| vipul | if you have local branches.. yes | 18:40 |
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| sputnik13 | we have a few places where we reference stackforge, I'll get a patch up fixing those | 18:41 |
| davideagnello | ok | 18:41 |
| vipul | also do a grep on docs | 18:41 |
| sputnik13 | it's mostly in doc and contrib | 18:41 |
| sputnik13 | yeah, did grep -r at root | 18:41 |
| vipul | k.. i'm going to move the docs to docs.o.o soon | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | dashboard is still stackforge | 18:42 |
| vipul | cue-dashboard? | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | did you get the message from jonathan? | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | err kial | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | not jonathan | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | about not getting rid of rtfd | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | making it point to docs.o.o instead because someone grabbed his rtfd page | 18:43 |
| vipul | oh yea.. saw that.. good things is ekarlso owns that | 18:43 |
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| sputnik13 | ok | 18:43 |
| vipul | so we can put up a redirect link or something and keep holding on to it | 18:43 |
| sputnik13 | k | 18:43 |
| vipul | dashboard is also openstack btw.. https://github.com/openstack/cue-dashboard | 18:43 |
| sputnik13 | ah sweet, but is that the right thing? | 18:44 |
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| vipul | sounds like we might have a hard time getting it into proper horizon.. so for now i guess it is | 18:44 |
| sputnik13 | or should it become part of horizon | 18:44 |
| sputnik13 | right | 18:44 |
| davideagnello | why would we have a hard time getting into horizon? | 18:45 |
| vipul | sounds like that team doesn't want to take more dashboards in | 18:45 |
| vipul | which makes sense.. given they have a plugin model | 18:45 |
| sputnik13 | word is they're quite overloaded and not willing to take in changes | 18:45 |
| vipul | devstack will probably be a similar battle | 18:46 |
| sputnik13 | right, taking it in to their repo would mean they're taking responsibility | 18:46 |
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| davideagnello | ah ok | 18:46 |
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| sputnik13 | isn't an overarching answer for how to address this now that the big tent makes it possible for more projects to join? | 18:47 |
| sputnik13 | shared "things" like devstack and horizon | 18:47 |
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| vipul | i don't think there is an answer.. it's more likely pushback | 18:47 |
| vipul | take extensions out of tree.. | 18:48 |
| sputnik13 | but that also means changes like the keystone v3 change in devstack can break other projects without those projects knowing about it until after the fact | 18:48 |
| vipul | yep.. but the other approach doesn't scale either | 18:49 |
| vipul | at least you'd know quickly enough cuz gates start to fail | 18:49 |
| sputnik13 | well, when you have lots of dependencies it always limits scalability | 18:49 |
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| vipul | btw i've added https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cueclient/+bug/1473454 | 18:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1473454 in Trove "New mock release(1.1.0) broke unit/function tests" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Nikhil Manchanda (slicknik) | 18:50 |
| sputnik13 | would be nice for the information to be proactively disseminated though | 18:50 |
| vipul | yes it would :) | 18:51 |
| sputnik13 | huh I didn't know Nikhil was SlickNik | 18:51 |
| sputnik13 | have we segway'd to bugs? | 18:51 |
| vipul | we got 8 mins | 18:52 |
| vipul | i've assigend that to you.. | 18:52 |
| sputnik13 | yay | 18:52 |
| vipul | since you are fixing tests ;) | 18:52 |
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| sputnik13 | Trove patch :) | 18:52 |
| vipul | nope.. cueclient patch | 18:52 |
| sputnik13 | oh doh | 18:52 |
| sputnik13 | ok | 18:52 |
| sputnik13 | #topic Bugz | 18:53 |
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| sputnik13 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1425131 | 18:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425131 in Cue "Incorporate standardized logging" [High,New] | 18:53 |
| sputnik13 | is that a high priority bug? | 18:54 |
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| vipul | No.. imo | 18:54 |
| sputnik13 | I think it's probably more a wishlist... I think it needs more description as well | 18:54 |
| vipul | run it in debug all day! | 18:54 |
| sputnik13 | davideagnello can you add more detail to that? are you saying we should classify the log messages differently? | 18:55 |
| sputnik13 | don't need to explain here, please add more detail to the bug... will reclassify as wishlist for now | 18:55 |
| sputnik13 | objections? good? next bug? | 18:55 |
| davideagnello | ok | 18:55 |
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| sputnik13 | #info reclassified as wishlist | 18:56 |
| sputnik13 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1429304 | 18:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1429304 in Cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [High,New] - Assigned to Steve Leon (steve-leon) | 18:56 |
| sputnik13 | Is this still an issue? | 18:57 |
| vipul | sputnik13: so how is our panel working | 18:57 |
| sputnik13 | not sure, I think Steve may have worked around it by not sending the limit | 18:57 |
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| sputnik13 | I'd say this is Medium since we do not have current failure | 18:58 |
| vipul | yea we need to add pagination to the api | 18:58 |
| vipul | that will fix this | 18:58 |
| davideagnello | looks like a feature | 18:58 |
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| davideagnello | which the api currently doesn't support | 18:59 |
| sputnik13 | davideagnello: I agree it is a feature | 18:59 |
| sputnik13 | if the dashboard isn't broken perhaps it's not a bug | 18:59 |
| sputnik13 | vipul? | 18:59 |
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| vipul | yea i would change the status to unconfirmed or something as well | 19:00 |
| sputnik13 | we have 1 minute left, let's agree on what to do with this before we close | 19:00 |
| vipul | incomplete | 19:00 |
| sputnik13 | there is no unconfirmed state | 19:00 |
| sputnik13 | ok, leave it at high? | 19:00 |
| davideagnello | non-voting rally jobs in: designate, neutron, murano, mistral and zaqar | 19:00 |
| vipul | incomplete | 19:00 |
| vipul | medium | 19:00 |
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| sputnik13 | ok | 19:01 |
| vipul | thanks davideagnello so maybe it's something we punt down the road | 19:01 |
| vipul | making it voting that is | 19:01 |
| davideagnello | wishlist? | 19:01 |
| davideagnello | vipul: ok | 19:01 |
| sputnik13 | someone should follow up on this | 19:01 |
| davideagnello | on? | 19:01 |
| sputnik13 | the bug | 19:01 |
| sputnik13 | I'll follow up on it or get steve to look at it | 19:01 |
| davideagnello | ok | 19:01 |
| sputnik13 | #action sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/1429304 | 19:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1429304 in Cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Steve Leon (steve-leon) | 19:02 |
| sputnik13 | ok that's time | 19:02 |
| sputnik13 | meetings will be Tuesday starting next week | 19:02 |
| sputnik13 | thanks everyone | 19:02 |
| sputnik13 | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 13 19:02:30 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-13-18.01.html | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-13-18.01.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-13-18.01.log.html | 19:02 |
| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 13 19:02:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | Roll call | 19:03 |
| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:03 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:03 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 19:03 |
| catherineD | agenda #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-07-13 | 19:03 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 19:04 |
| catherineD | hello everyone .. | 19:04 |
| davidlenwell | hi! | 19:04 |
| catherineD | #topic Relocate RefStack Project | 19:04 |
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| davidlenwell | hi .. sorry .. that was my task.. and Akanda related work has consumed my entire week.. | 19:04 |
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| pvaneck | This is just the project rename? | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | No this is moving our project to OpensStack-Infra | 19:07 |
| catherineD | I believe we will need to submit patch(es) to Infra ... | 19:07 |
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| hogepodge | I'm not certain how to move the hosting forward now that the spec has been approved | 19:08 |
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| catherineD | davidlenwell: do you know what need to be done to go forward ? Or do we need to find out? | 19:09 |
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| davidlenwell | fungi: can you answer the question from hogepodge ? | 19:09 |
| pvaneck | so we do have this review up in system-config: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ | 19:09 |
| fungi | davidlenwell: hogepodge: i added a review to create the server, but it needs some more work and i'm in and out of availability since i just bought a house | 19:10 |
| fungi | anyone is welcome to take over that review | 19:10 |
| * fungi digs up the link from last week | 19:10 | |
| catherineD | I https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ is to create server .. | 19:10 |
| catherineD | we are discussing moving Refstack project from stackforge to OpenStack-Infra | 19:11 |
| davidlenwell | yes .. So I don't know the exact steps for this .. but I imagine its a governacne patch and a infra projects patch to make it sop | 19:12 |
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| davidlenwell | so | 19:12 |
| fungi | yep, sorry that's the right one. i'm trying to internet from a wireless modem since this house has no internet hooked up yet | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | fungi: do you know the exact steps to move the Refstack project from stackforge to OpenStack_Infra? | 19:16 |
| catherineD | fungi: or do you have a contact name? | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | I guess we can discuss with fungi: later ... | 19:18 |
| fungi | catherineD: did the technical committee approve refstack as a new project, or was an existing official project team identified who will be responsible for it? | 19:18 |
| catherineD | fungi: I don't think we have get the apporval from the technical committee yet ... | 19:19 |
| davidlenwell | fungi: infra is the responsible team as far as I know | 19:19 |
| fungi | the first step is to get it accepted by the technical committee into the list at http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/index.html | 19:19 |
| catherineD | I guess that would be our next step .. | 19:19 |
| fungi | oh, if refstack is going to be part of openstack-infra specifically then check with jeblair since he's the ptl of the project-team you say is adopting refstack | 19:20 |
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| catherineD | fungi: thx so checking with jeblair is our next step then? | 19:21 |
| fungi | note that hosting the web service on our servers doesn't _necessarily_ mean that the software running that web service is governed by the infra project-team | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | davidlenwell: would you like to contact jeblair or I can help too ... | 19:22 |
| fungi | catherineD: from what davidlenwell is saying, it sounds like there must have already been some existing conversation implying that refstack was going to become an openstack-infra repo rather than remaining a separate project-team | 19:22 |
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| catherineD | fungi: unless davidlenwell: had contacted jeblair else thus far the conversasions were among Refstack team .. | 19:23 |
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| davidlenwell | jeblair and I have had this discussion since the begining of refstack | 19:24 |
| davidlenwell | it should come as a surprise to him | 19:24 |
| catherineD | #action davidlenwell: catherineD: to contact jeblair for next steps to relocate Refstack to OpenStack-Infra | 19:24 |
| fungi | anyway, those are the two options. either stackforge/refstack is adopted by an existing project-team recognized by the tc, or asks the tc to recognize it as a new project-team | 19:24 |
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| catherineD | fungi: thx .. | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | I think the plan was always to fall under infra | 19:25 |
| lifeless | o/ | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | not to be our own project | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | hi lifeless | 19:25 |
| fungi | and then we have a change to the openstack/governance repo to indicate the change in namespace, and a corresponding change to openstack-infra/project-config to edit it in all the configuration files for the new name | 19:25 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: We have decided to move under Infra | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: I'm aware of that .. im not talking abotu name space | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | im talking about goverance | 19:25 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: ic | 19:25 |
| davidlenwell | if any project team should own refstack .. its infra | 19:26 |
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| catherineD | ready to move onto the next topic ? | 19:27 |
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| catherineD | #topic refstack.net Site | 19:27 |
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| davidlenwell | yes | 19:28 |
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| davidlenwell | So I've moved refstack.net to a dreamhost compute instance.. this instance is free for as long as we need it.. There will be no more 173 dollar bills | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: As discusse last week, David got a bill for $187 for refstack,net .. you were checking on whether OpenStack Foundation can sponsor and reimburse ? | 19:28 |
| davidlenwell | hogepodge: has already agreed to have the foundation reimburse me for the charges on the original | 19:28 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: wow | 19:29 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: its done | 19:29 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: thank you sooooo much!!! | 19:29 |
| hogepodge | no problem | 19:29 |
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| catherineD | so refstack.net is now on DreamHost ... | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | #topic Infra Hosting | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | This is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ ... | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | lifeless: would you be able to help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ ? | 19:32 |
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| pvaneck | the puppet repo is in infra as mentioned last week. | 19:33 |
| pvaneck | i submitted a patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/puppet-refstack,n,z | 19:34 |
| pvaneck | not sure who is core there | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | I guess we will need some help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ ... | 19:34 |
| catherineD | and Paul's patch .... | 19:35 |
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| catherineD | #action Paul to find out core to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198910/ | 19:37 |
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| catherineD | #action checking on status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ next week | 19:39 |
| catherineD | #topic Set up eavesdrop for refstack channel | 19:39 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198621/ was merged ... any next steps ...? | 19:40 |
| hogepodge | Nope, should be good to go. | 19:40 |
| hogepodge | it's automated, so everything is in place | 19:40 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: great .. thx a lot! .. | 19:41 |
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| catherineD | for taking care of this ... now we have our #refstack logs for review ... | 19:41 |
| catherineD | #topic Tokyo Refstack sessions | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: It would be nice if we can have a formal schedule (time and room) for Refstack meeting at Tokyo ... do you know what we need to do to schedule? | 19:43 |
| davidlenwell | There are usually open meeting rooms that people can use adhock | 19:43 |
| hogepodge | I can ask around. The process behind the room selection for summits can be opaque to me. Room space is going to be really hard for Tokyo. We just don't have the room that we had in Vancouver | 19:44 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: yes that were what we did in the last 2 summit ... | 19:44 |
| davidlenwell | usually there is a breakout room | 19:44 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: ic .. | 19:44 |
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| catherineD | #action hogepodge: to try find out whether it is possible to schedule a room for Refstack meeting at Tokyo | 19:45 |
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| catherineD | we will submit a speaker session for #refstack ... Could you please review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack_tokyo_speaker_session | 19:46 |
| sslypushenko__ | Looks good) | 19:46 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: hope we can meet you at Tokyo | 19:47 |
| catherineD | #topic OpenStackID integration | 19:47 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I hope too) | 19:47 |
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| catherineD | OpenStackID integration is moving on welll ... sslypushenko__: has 2 WIP ... | 19:48 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: is this https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1v7exKKL1zSA102Xu8FkY1u9rMVUE6BjwUCoWGYYvbaI/edit#slide=id.g3005a843b_0_11 | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | It needs to be updated | 19:49 |
| catherineD | still good ? I want to add that doc to refstack wiki .. | 19:49 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I'm planning to finish UI for uploading pubkeys | 19:49 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: ok I will wait then ... Please let me know when you have the update ... no hurry we can work on merging the UI code first ... | 19:50 |
| catherineD | #topic Refstack need SSL | 19:50 |
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| sslypushenko__ | And than I'll update docs | 19:50 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD: isn't registering ssl for refstack.org part of the infra hosting thing? | 19:50 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: great thx .. | 19:50 |
| catherineD | davidlenwell: just want to see is there anything else? | 19:51 |
| catherineD | if that is it then we have it cover ... | 19:51 |
| davidlenwell | I believe they'll handle that | 19:51 |
| catherineD | ok then that is good ... | 19:52 |
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| catherineD | #agree Refstack SSL will be handled with Refstack server hosting at Infra | 19:52 |
| catherineD | #topic subunit2sql evaluation and adoption | 19:53 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: you were looking at subunit2sql ... | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD I have a bad new about subunit2sql | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko__ | *news | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko__ | It cann't be used by refstack right now | 19:54 |
| catherineD | what is it? We won't be able to adopt ... | 19:54 |
| catherineD | yes .. I take a quick look and believe so too .. | 19:54 |
| sslypushenko__ | subunit2sql doesn't use idempotent ids is test unique indenifier | 19:55 |
| davidlenwell | mtreinish: ^^ | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko__ | davidlenwell He is on top of it | 19:55 |
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| sslypushenko__ | We need to resolve uuid duplication issue first | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | sslypushenko__: that shouldn't be a blocker for adoption | 19:56 |
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| sslypushenko__ | But it is | 19:56 |
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| mtreinish | you just need to assign additional metadata to tests like I described in my email | 19:56 |
| sslypushenko__ | Right not any test move will broke test results | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko__ | So we need to track changes og test FQN to undestand the real results | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | sslypushenko__: no it won't all the data is there it's just not the primary key | 19:58 |
| catherineD | mtreinish: the other reason that I see we won't be able to adopt for now isfor refstack the subunit processing is done at server side ... and #resstack does not ship the subunit file only the pass tests... so the process had to ben done at the client side which has no DB ... | 19:58 |
| sslypushenko__ | It will be better finally solve issue with uuid duplication | 19:58 |
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| mtreinish | catherineD: well I've always found that model weird, but you don't actually have to use the subunit2sql utility. Just leverage the python api to handle writing to the db on the server side | 19:59 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD DB is not a big deal, we can you mysql-in-docker for that | 19:59 |
| catherineD | Let's discuss this in #refstack | 20:00 |
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| sslypushenko__ | +1 | 20:00 |
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| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 13 20:00:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-07-13-19.02.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-07-13-19.02.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-07-13-19.02.log.html | 20:00 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Actually, It will be better to start discussion in QA mailing list | 20:01 |
| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 13 20:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:01 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:01 |
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| igueths | o/ | 20:01 |
| alee | o/ | 20:01 |
| rellerreller | o/ | 20:01 |
| elmiko | hi | 20:01 |
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| kfarr | o/ | 20:01 |
| redrobot | Also, sorry I've been AFK for the last few days | 20:01 |
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| chellygel | (*＾▽＾)／ | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | I've been moving apartments, but we're getting close to normalcy | 20:02 |
| dave-mccowan | \o/ | 20:02 |
| redrobot | As usual the agenda can be found here: | 20:03 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:03 |
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| jkf | Greetings | 20:03 |
| silos1 | o/ | 20:03 |
| redrobot | jkf o/ | 20:03 |
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| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items from the last meeting | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-06-20.00.html | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | First one is jaosorior to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo | 20:04 |
| redrobot | jaosorior ping? | 20:04 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:05 |
| redrobot | I don't think jaosorior is here | 20:05 |
| redrobot | we can punt to next week | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | #action jaosorior to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo | 20:05 |
| alee | redrobot, not sure if he's still awake .. he mentioned that he opened a bug and was going to look at it this week. | 20:05 |
| alee | redrobot, I'll remind him | 20:05 |
| redrobot | alee awesome, thanks | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | next action item was for me | 20:06 |
| redrobot | Next action item redrobot to ping woodster about writing a spec for the additional acl role | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | which I'm going to do now | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ we talked about the additional ACL role, and it was suggested that it would be good to have a blueprint for the change. | 20:06 |
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| woodster_ | that sounds good | 20:07 |
| woodster_ | when is the deadline for those again? | 20:07 |
| redrobot | Deadline for Liberty BPs is the liberty-2 milestone | 20:07 |
| redrobot | so you have until the end of July | 20:08 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 20:08 |
| woodster_ | redrobot: thanks | 20:08 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: I'm half here | 20:08 |
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| alee | jaosorior, I told redrobot I'd remind you to backport the dogtag gate fixes .. | 20:09 |
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| alee | jaosorior, you've been reminded :) | 20:09 |
| jaosorior | alee, redrobot: Yeah, I'll take time this week to do those backports | 20:09 |
| woodster_ | jaosorior: just past the ballmer peak? | 20:09 |
| alee | cool beans | 20:09 |
| redrobot | awesome | 20:10 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on to the agenda items | 20:10 |
| redrobot | #topic Magnum integration | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | There was a thread about this last week on the ML | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | Magnum wants to enable TLS inside their project, and will be using Barbican to generate and store x.509 certificates. | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | Their team was having some trouble provisioning certs out of the box with our current setup, so I have it on my to-do list to look into that. | 20:12 |
| alee | redrobot, this is something they want to do on setup only, or on a regular basis? | 20:12 |
| redrobot | alee I'm not 100% on all the details, but I think they'll be provisioning new certs when new nodes spin up. | 20:13 |
| alee | redrobot, ok | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | If anyone is interested in the details, you can find links here: | 20:15 |
| redrobot | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068993.html | 20:15 |
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| alee | redrobot, I'll look into it too and respond on the trhread as well. | 20:15 |
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| jaosorior | woodster_: Not yet :P | 20:16 |
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| redrobot | any other questions/comments about Magnum integration? | 20:16 |
| alee | redrobot, do they have an irc channel? | 20:17 |
| redrobot | alee #openstack-containers | 20:17 |
| alee | redrobot, ok | 20:17 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:17 |
| redrobot | #topic CAs blueprint | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/barbican-specs/specs/liberty/add-cas.html | 20:18 |
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| alee | redrobot, whats the question here? | 20:19 |
| redrobot | I was reviewing this BP after it merged, and I noticed it was missing info on implementing a non dogtag version | 20:19 |
| redrobot | So I think maybe we should consider making this an optional feature? | 20:19 |
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| alee | redrobot, well - it is optional for a ca plugin to implement this. | 20:20 |
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| alee | if I recall correctly, there is a default implementation of the relevant methods | 20:20 |
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| alee | redrobot, there is a supports_create_ca() method | 20:21 |
| alee | which defaults to false | 20:21 |
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| alee | and a create_ca() method which defaults to throwing not implemented -- that method would not be called if supports_create_ca is false. | 20:23 |
| redrobot | I guess it just wasn't clear to me from reading the spec what a non-dogtag deployment would look like | 20:23 |
| alee | redrobot, in case no plugin can support this, we would end up returning No Plugin or similar | 20:23 |
| alee | redrobot, just like if no plugin supported key generation of a certain type for instance | 20:24 |
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| redrobot | I was thinking more along the lines of optional api extensions like in nova, but I think no plugin errors would be fine | 20:25 |
| alee | redrobot, I'm open either way -- no plugin error means one less thing to configure | 20:26 |
| alee | in case you want to support the functionality | 20:26 |
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| redrobot | Anyone else care to chime in? ... woodster_ we had talked about optional features before. What do you think? | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | redrobot: it seems the extensions api approach is a more fundamental change to the API structure of Barbican...probably worthy of its own discussion at the mid cycle | 20:27 |
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| redrobot | woodster_ fair enough | 20:29 |
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| redrobot | I added the topic to the midcycle etherpad | 20:29 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-liberty-midcycle | 20:29 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:29 |
| rellerreller | It's probably a good thing to discuss. | 20:29 |
| rellerreller | I saw silos1 had a KMIP-specific proposal for the API. | 20:30 |
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| rellerreller | Sorry, I"m a slow typer today. | 20:30 |
| redrobot | rellerreller I'll add it to the agenda | 20:30 |
| redrobot | #topic copy constructor for secrets and containers | 20:30 |
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| redrobot | elmiko you wanted to give an update on this? | 20:30 |
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| elmiko | yea | 20:30 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127823/ | 20:30 |
| elmiko | i just wanted to complete the loop on the discussions we had on openstack-api | 20:31 |
| elmiko | i think there is a consensus forming in the review | 20:31 |
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| elmiko | but we did discuss it, and aside the from PUT update of secrets (which sidetracked us), we had major solutions | 20:32 |
| elmiko | the one miguelgrinberg mentions in the review and the one i suggested | 20:32 |
| alee | elmiko, seems like the one you suggested is the one that got traction | 20:32 |
| jvrbanac | sooo I had some input on patchset 7 | 20:32 |
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| elmiko | so, the takeaway from the api-wg was that there isn't really an advised way to do this type of operation, some hits came up on stackoverflow for the style i suggested | 20:34 |
| jvrbanac | I wasn't thrilled about having magic payloads on endpoints | 20:34 |
| elmiko | and i think miguelgrinberg's is clean as well | 20:34 |
| elmiko | yea, agreed jvrbanac | 20:34 |
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| jvrbanac | We had a similar discussion a long time ago when it came to payloads for secrets | 20:35 |
| jvrbanac | fast-foward and we ended up breaking it out to a different endpoint | 20:35 |
| woodster_ | jvrbanac: your suggested approach is similar to Miguel's 2nd suggested one, correct? | 20:35 |
| woodster_ | jvrbanac: ....i.e. a POST to secrets/{UUID-to-copy} | 20:36 |
| woodster_ | jvrbanac: ...with or without the /copy at the end | 20:36 |
| jvrbanac | woodster_, sorta. My approach was for POST http://{barbican}/v1/secrets/{uuid}/copy | 20:36 |
| jvrbanac | Similar to how we do payloads | 20:36 |
| elmiko | i'm not so fond of creating new endpoints for controller-esque operations | 20:36 |
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| alee | elmiko, +1 | 20:36 |
| elmiko | this style of operation has come up within the api-wg as a behavior to advise against | 20:37 |
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| jvrbanac | elmiko, did they say why? | 20:37 |
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| jvrbanac | because it feels the most explicit and discoverable | 20:37 |
| elmiko | jvrbanac: it's a pretty philosophical discussion, but it has to do with REST being a state transfer mechanism around resources | 20:38 |
| elmiko | and not an RPC type mechanism | 20:38 |
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| elmiko | jvrbanac: miguelgrinberg and stevelle are great folks to talk with about this though, their knowledge and experience are much deeper than mine | 20:39 |
| elmiko | also, the o'reilly rest cookbook has some info on it | 20:39 |
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| elmiko | jvrbanac: does that make some sense? | 20:40 |
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| jvrbanac | elmiko, as much as a philosophical argument is going to be. Personally, I still think it's bad design regardless what the books say. | 20:41 |
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| elmiko | jvrbanac: wait, which is bad design? | 20:42 |
| redrobot | I think the POST to v1/secrets/UUID is interesting | 20:42 |
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| elmiko | (i was speaking about POST to ../copy) | 20:43 |
| alee | redrobot, that seens counter-intuitive somewhat to me. POST /secrets?copy_ref={uuid} seems clearest to me. | 20:43 |
| alee | gotta step away for a sec .. but please go on :) | 20:44 |
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| jvrbanac | elmiko, I was referring to magic body's or parameters. so like the /secrets?copy_ref or the copy ref in the body both feel very dirty | 20:44 |
| elmiko | jvrbanac: ahh, ok | 20:45 |
| elmiko | i think we all agreed that magic to the body was non-ideal | 20:45 |
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| elmiko | i think the feeling about query params was that they were more easily discoverable/documentable than body related changes | 20:45 |
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| elmiko | in all fairness, i like miguelgrinberg's approach as well. | 20:46 |
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| elmiko | if anyone is interested i can dig up a link to the conversation in irc after this meeting, just ping me | 20:47 |
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| jvrbanac | elmiko, I get the rational for those ideas. However, considering Barbican's current api design, I don't think they fit that well | 20:48 |
| elmiko | jvrbanac: understandable | 20:48 |
| jvrbanac | elmiko, I think it's because we're already mixing so many behaviors on our resources that it becomes confusing | 20:48 |
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| jvrbanac | elmiko, the same thing happened to secrets payload retrieval. | 20:48 |
| jvrbanac | elmiko, just food for thought | 20:49 |
| elmiko | yea, i know the feeling... (/me is working on sahara v2 api spec) | 20:49 |
| elmiko | jvrbanac: fair, and i just wanted to get a few more eyes on the review. ultimately it's up to the team to make the right decision for barbican | 20:49 |
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| redrobot | ok, sounds like we just need more reviewers | 20:50 |
| redrobot | anything else on this topic? | 20:51 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 20:51 |
| alee | redrobot, elmiko , jvrbanac - more reviewers is fine, but I'd like to put this to rest soon | 20:51 |
| alee | (pun intended) | 20:51 |
| redrobot | lol | 20:51 |
| woodster_ | alee: beat met to it | 20:51 |
| elmiko | alee: lol, i've said my peace. i leave it up to the group to vote on this one | 20:51 |
| woodster_ | alee: beat me to it | 20:51 |
| alee | can we vote now ? | 20:52 |
| alee | or do we need more time? | 20:52 |
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| jvrbanac | This is the direction everyone wants to go. Ok, but I still think it's a mistake. | 20:53 |
| alee | (I didn't realize this simle spec was going to cause so much controversy) | 20:53 |
| jvrbanac | lol I think any change to secrets api is going to cause some :) | 20:54 |
| jvrbanac | considering the history of the api | 20:54 |
| alee | indeed | 20:54 |
| redrobot | one thing I don't like about the ?copy_ref=XXXX is that XXXX is going to need to be a ful URI to be consistent with the rest of the api | 20:54 |
| redrobot | and that just seems weird to me. | 20:54 |
| woodster_ | This one is explicit to me: POST /secrets?copy_ref={uuid} This one I almost like but seems a bit too subtle: POST /secrets/{UUID-to-copy} | 20:54 |
| alee | woodster_, my thoughts exactly | 20:55 |
| woodster_ | I'd be ok with the latter approach if that is the consensus though | 20:55 |
| redrobot | POST /secrets?copy_ref=https://some-cloud.com/uuid | 20:55 |
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| woodster_ | redrobot: correct | 20:56 |
| jvrbanac | ?copy_ref={uuid} will most likely cause problems with federation. ?copy_ref={full_hatoas} would have to be encoded to keep parsers from barfing | 20:56 |
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| elmiko | jvrbanac: yea, i thought about that too with the federation | 20:57 |
| woodster_ | sounds like POST /secrets/{UUID-to-copy} then? | 20:57 |
| elmiko | that might be the cleanest | 20:57 |
| alee | ok with me | 20:57 |
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| woodster_ | Votes for POST /secrets/{UUID-to-copy} then? | 20:57 |
| woodster_ | +1 | 20:57 |
| redrobot | +1 | 20:58 |
| alee | +1 | 20:58 |
| elmiko | +1 | 20:58 |
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| woodster_ | neys to that approach? | 20:58 |
| alee | the ayes have it :) | 20:58 |
| alee | awesome | 20:58 |
| woodster_ | (crickets... :) | 20:58 |
| jvrbanac | still not a fan, but I'll just tell you I told you so in a year | 20:58 |
| jvrbanac | lol | 20:58 |
| alee | :) just in time for v2 | 20:59 |
| redrobot | #agreed Copy Secret API will use POST /v1/secrets/{UUID-to-copy} | 20:59 |
| woodster_ | alee: :) | 20:59 |
| alee | ok - will write it up and submit later tonight | 20:59 |
| redrobot | just in time for the end of the meeting | 20:59 |
| alee | thanks! | 20:59 |
| redrobot | and I think rellerreller left, so I'll had his topic to next week's agenda. | 20:59 |
| redrobot | thanks everyone for coming! | 20:59 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-13-20.01.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-13-20.01.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-13-20.01.log.html | 20:59 |
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| elmiko | thanks | 21:00 |
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