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tmorin1#startmeeting bgpvpn15:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 21 15:02:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn'15:02
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tmorin1hi doude pcarver pc_m carl_baldwin15:03
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tmorin1this will I guess be a short meeting15:04
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tmorin1#topic driver framework15:04
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tmorin1doude did work to allow a driver to not inherit the db persistency behavior, in the perspective of writing a contrail driver15:05
tmorin1I merged this today15:05
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tmorin1we also merged code to follow upstream changes in Neutron15:05
tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200578/15:06
tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/19949515:06
tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/19961715:06
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tmorin1we also identified an issue related to not being able to enabled the bgpvpn service provider along with other *aas service provider15:07
tmorin1this is tracked for bgpvpn at #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/147311915:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1473119 in bgpvpn "bgpvpn can't co-exist with *aas service providers" [High,Confirmed]15:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1473119 in bgpvpn "bgpvpn can't co-exist with *aas service providers" [High,Confirmed]15:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1473119 in bgpvpn "bgpvpn can't co-exist with *aas service providers" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147311915:07
tmorin1and a Neutron evolution in the works by armax15:08
tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/20387815:08
tmorin1sorry : #link https://review.openstack.org/20220715:08
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tmorin1we will have to mimic this15:08
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tmorin1#action mimic https://review.openstack.org/202207 for proper enabling of service provider15:09
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tmorin1#topic drivers15:09
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tmorin1not many news on this topic15:09
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tmorin1but one: doude started working on a contrail driver15:09
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tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/20280615:10
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tmorin1which is very nice15:10
tmorin1not finished yet though15:10
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tmorin1#topic misc15:10
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tmorin1not much to discuss this week I'm afraid15:10
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tmorin1matrohon on holidays, myself travelling15:11
tmorin1thanks for listening folks ;)15:12
tmorin1any comment ?15:12
tmorin1ok, we're done then15:13
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tmorin1see you next week15:13
tmorin1#endmeeting15:13
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul 21 15:13:15 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:13
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-07-21-15.02.html15:13
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-07-21-15.02.txt15:13
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-07-21-15.02.log.html15:13
pcarverI was on vacation all last week so nothing to contribute, but I'll look through all the URLs you listed.15:13
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adrian_otto#startmeeting containers16:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 21 16:02:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'16:02
adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-07-21_1600_UTC Our Agenda16:02
mfalatico/16:02
adrian_otto#topic Roll Call16:02
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:02
tcammann\o/16:02
chiragchirag arora16:02
dane_leblanco/16:02
diga_Digambar Patil16:02
suro-patzo/16:02
TangoTon Ngo16:02
mfalaticMarty Falatic16:02
rodso/16:02
daneyonhello16:02
hongbino/16:02
jjfrericJacob Frericks16:02
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brendenblancohello16:03
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adrian_ottohello mfalatic, tcammann, chirag, dane_leblanc, diga_, suro-patz, Tango, rods, daneyon, hongbin, jjfreric, brendenblanco16:03
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adrian_ottook, let's begin16:05
adrian_otto#topic Announcements16:05
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adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-bay-type Our Mesos bay type is complete!16:06
adrian_otto1) WHOOT, we have Mesos16:06
adrian_ottoFeature is complete, with ongoing work for additional enhancements16:06
adrian_ottoI'll pause here from comments from the contributors who worked on this.16:06
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daneyoncongrats!!!16:06
diga_good work hongbin16:07
tcammannnice one16:07
adrian_ottothis is a good example of our community working together to shape the future of OpenStack16:07
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hongbin:)16:07
diga_yes16:07
tcammannWe said we would do this at the summit, and now its done :)16:07
mfalatic:-)16:08
adrian_ottoyes, this is really worth recognition.16:08
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adrian_ottook,  this was the only prepared announcement I had on our agenda16:08
adrian_ottobut I just thought of another16:09
adrian_otto2) sdake is on vacation this week16:09
diga_adrian_otto: I am targeting to add support for mesos bay with coreos in this week https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-bay-with-coreos16:09
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adrian_ottodiga_: thanks for submitting that16:09
diga_welcome adrian_otto16:10
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adrian_ottodiga_: we'll take a look at that one. Have you submitted any reviews against that yet, or is that still in ideation phase?16:10
adrian_ottoany other announcements from team members?16:10
diga_no, I am testing some patches at my end16:10
juggler_o/16:10
adrian_ottothanks diga_16:10
juggler_(some minor technical difficulties...hello)16:11
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adrian_ottook, let's proceed16:13
adrian_otto#topic Container Networking Subteam Update16:13
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daneyonThe networking subteam had a meeting last Thursday. The meeting summary is here:16:13
daneyon#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-07-16-18.03.html16:13
daneyonBased on feedback from the subteam, the language of the networking blueprint has been modified:16:13
daneyon#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/extensible-network-model16:13
daneyon^ pls review and let me know if you have any questions.16:14
daneyonI am working through the networking spec and it will be submitted for review tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's input over the past few weeks and look forward to upcoming feedback from the community.16:14
daneyonWe will meet again this Thursday. Meeting details are here:16:14
adrian_ottoalso note that the URL of the BP also changed16:14
daneyon#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Container_Networking_Subteam_Meeting16:14
daneyonAdditional supporting blueprints have also been filed. One for expanding the scope of labels and the other for a common pluggable framework:16:14
daneyon#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/expand-labels-scope16:14
daneyon#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/common-plugin-framework16:14
daneyonI look forward to discussing these bp's16:15
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adrian_ottodaneyon: it looks like the participation level there is healthy16:15
daneyonI believe that's it for announcements. Any questions?16:15
adrian_ottodo you feel like you have the support needed to succeed?16:15
daneyonadrian_otto agreed16:15
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daneyonand a lot of good dialogue during the meetings and in the etherpad.16:15
daneyonadrian_otto I do16:16
adrian_ottook, great.16:16
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adrian_ottoany questions about this?16:16
daneyonI think it will be important to discuss the above blueprints16:16
daneyonneither of them are show stoppers for magnum networking16:16
daneyonbut they could be beneficial to networking and the magnum project as a whole16:16
adrian_ottodaneyon: did you want to give a quick update on the BP as well?16:16
daneyonsure16:17
adrian_ottowe can do that now16:17
daneyonI am half way through writing the bp16:17
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daneyoni have incorporated most o the feedback in the etherpad:16:17
daneyon#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-native-docker-network16:17
daneyonif your feedback was not incorporated, then i should have provided feedback in the ep directly16:18
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* tcammann adds to reading list16:18
daneyonmost of the details of the spec can be viewed in the ep16:18
adrian_ottook, thanks daneyon16:19
daneyontheir is the idea of loading plugins through magnum.conf as a near-term step until labels are examined further16:19
daneyonpls let me know if you have any concerns managing plugins through magnum.conf16:20
daneyonthis would be an approach similar to how Neutron manages plugins16:20
brendenblancoit seems that the third link in the Common Plugin Framework BP is broken, is that expected?16:20
daneyonif no questions, then that's it16:20
daneyonlet me check16:20
adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items16:21
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daneyonbrendenblanco good catch16:21
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daneyonlet me update the link16:21
mfalaticfixed16:21
adrian_otto1) adrian_otto to follow up with Barbican team to arrange assistance for integration with Magnum16:21
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mfalaticthe parentheses confuses etherpad.16:21
mfalaticsuspect that wouldn't be a problem in normal rest docs16:21
adrian_ottoI did follow up, but I'm not sure if madhuri got enough support. I did see a new introduction yesterday on this.16:21
adrian_ottoso although the item is complete, I think this needs continued attention16:22
daneyonbrendenblanco updated... go ahead and refresh16:22
brendenblancodaneyon: works, thanks!16:22
adrian_otto#action adrian_otto to verify Magnum team has enough support to integrate with Magnum16:22
daneyonbrendenblanco yw16:22
adrian_otto2) All core reviewers to review https://review.openstack.org/19490516:22
tcammannadrian_otto: s/Magnum/Barbican/ ^^?16:23
adrian_ottoit looks like this review needs a revision16:23
adrian_otto#undo16:23
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0xacb4e90>16:23
adrian_ottoirc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#action adrian_otto to verify Magnum team has enough support to integrate with Barbican16:23
adrian_otto#action adrian_otto to verify Magnum team has enough support to integrate with Magnum16:23
adrian_ottook16:23
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adrian_ottoany remarks on the "Add TLS support in Magnum" spec?16:24
adrian_ottook, next action item16:24
adrian_otto3) tcammann to move heat-coe-templates repo to project attic, and to relay our resolution on the ML thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068381.html16:25
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adrian_ottoStatus?16:25
tcammannIts on my list todo16:25
tcammannbusy week16:25
adrian_otto#action tcammann to move heat-coe-templates repo to project attic, and to relay our resolution on the ML thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068381.html16:25
daneyonadrian_otto you may want to double-check your action item above16:25
adrian_otto#topic Blueprint/Bug Review16:25
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adrian_ottodaneyon: ?16:25
daneyonverify Magnum team has enough support to integrate with Magnum16:25
daneyonShould that be Barb not M?16:26
adrian_ottoI did an undo on that16:26
daneyonoops, didn;t catch that16:26
daneyonsorry16:26
adrian_ottoand then I made the same error16:26
adrian_ottowhatever. I know what it means16:26
adrian_ottoNew Blueprints for Discussion16:26
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/hyperstack Power Magnum to run on metal with Hyper16:27
adrian_ottowe have had an ongoing discussion about this on our ML16:27
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adrian_ottoI've formed an objection to using Magnum as a way to re-implement aspects of Nova16:27
adrian_ottoso I've offered guidance to explore adding Hyper as a virt-driver for nova16:28
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adrian_ottoif you have opinions on this, please join the ML discussion. Let me find a link to that.16:28
hongbinadrian_otto: If there is a hyper virt-driver for nova, it will be something similar as nova-docker?16:29
adrian_otto#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068574.html Hyper/Magnum ML Discussion16:29
adrian_ottohongbin: yes, nova-docker is also a virt driver16:29
adrian_ottowe never anticipated using Magnum as a tool for creating baremetal hosts to bypass Nova16:29
adrian_ottoso I'm concerned about that aspect of the proposal16:30
hongbinI think we bypass Nova to create a k8s ironic bay?16:30
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adrian_ottohongbin: no, we use a Heat template that calls for an OS::Server resource. That uses Nova.16:31
adrian_ottothrough ironic, correct?16:31
hongbinI think so16:31
adrian_ottoso I'd be happy to endorse an approach that would closely track that implementation16:31
adrian_ottobut that works because there is an ironic virt driver for nova16:32
tcammann+116:32
hongbink16:32
daneyonand if/when hyper is added to nova as a virt driver, magnum can take the same approach to support the hyper virt driver16:32
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adrian_ottook, please follow up on the ML for this16:33
TangoSounds like a consistent approach16:33
adrian_ottoI'll keep it on the agenda for next week, to see if we can tweak the BP so we can all feel comfortable with it16:33
adrian_ottoEssential Blueprint Updates16:34
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/objects-from-bay Obtain the objects from the bay endpoint (sdake)16:34
adrian_ottosdake is not present. Did he submit status for this for anyone to share?16:34
adrian_ottomy guess is that it's pending.16:34
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adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-kubernetes Secure the client/server communication between ReST client and ReST server (madhuri)16:35
adrian_ottomy understanding on this one is that we are making progress on our Barbican integration16:36
tcammannPatch up for cert controller https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203901/16:36
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adrian_ottothanks tcammann16:36
tcammannI would like to see some more work on the spec though16:36
adrian_ottoagreed16:36
adrian_ottotcammann: are you ever around when madhuri is? I'm usually leaving for the day as she is arriving16:37
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tcammannIn the mornings I believe so16:37
adrian_ottook, can you please check with her to see if she needs more help?16:38
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adrian_ottowe'll pull in help if she needs it16:38
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tcammannOk, I'll try and catch up with her16:39
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adrian_ottofor a while there we were stuck on Barbican, but I expect we have started moving again16:39
adrian_ottothanks tcammann16:39
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb Support the kubernetes service external-load-balancer feature (Tango)16:39
TangoI moved to Kubernetes V116:39
TangoIt did require further tweak in the templates16:40
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adrian_ottoTango: are those changes up for review, or might we expect those to come soon?16:40
TangoI have 2 issues right now:  resolve the bug in the atomic build, and debugging the config for Kubernetes to talk to OpenStack (as it has changed)16:41
Tangosdake and I were talking to the Atomic folks to get some help.  They confirmed the bug and suggested we move to Fedora 22.16:42
adrian_ottoso we have a Fedora problem16:42
TangoBut so far I have not been able to build with F22.  I will need to bug them again16:43
adrian_ottowe have tooling (that I think you contributed?) for building new images16:43
adrian_ottook, so I look forward to an update next time16:43
adrian_ottoif you want help before then, let's fire something up on the ML16:43
TangoRight, the build process is ok for f21, but for f22 it's still not fully developed yet from the Atomic side16:43
adrian_ottoWe might want to start getting creative about where to find help if you feel like you need it16:43
TangoI can certainly use help with the Atomic build problem16:44
adrian_ottoanother option would be to pick an older version of k8s16:44
jugglerTango so the present recommendation then is to maintain f21 for build setup then?16:44
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TangoI can only build with F21 and use a work around for the bug16:45
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jugglerok16:45
TangoSo with this, I can get Kubernetes V1 running16:45
TangoI did get confirmation from someone at eBay that they did get V1 load balancer working with OpenStack, so that's good to know16:46
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TangoWe just need to get the configuration correct16:46
daneyonadrian_otto I do not see anything in the tools dir related to building new images. Can you provide a link to the build tool you are referencing?16:46
Tangodaneyon: It's still a patch from me16:46
TangoI need to submit another patch based on sdake comment16:47
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196145/16:47
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adrian_ottothanks Hongbin16:47
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TangoI haven't heard from anyone else, so I will do that update now16:47
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adrian_ottomy memory was flawed. I's a guide, not a tool16:47
Tangoright, just instruction on how to build16:48
adrian_ottook, I have a couple of more status'es to request16:48
adrian_ottothanks for the update Tango16:48
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-swarm-scheduling Provide container anti-affinity through swarm constraint filtering (diga)16:48
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adrian_ottodiga: I downgraded this from Essential to Medium last week16:48
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adrian_ottois that something you want us to revisit?16:49
diga_yes adrian_otto16:49
diga_yes16:49
diga_I will submit a patch on this16:49
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adrian_ottobecause I adjusted the priority I will not ask for weekly reports back on this16:50
adrian_ottobut we will look forward to your patches in gerrit16:50
diga_yes, I understand16:50
adrian_ottook, next one here...16:50
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-docker Secure client/server communication using TLS (apmelton)16:50
adrian_ottoapmelton is not present today16:50
tcammannStill dependent on tls kube work16:50
adrian_ottook, I'll advance to the next16:51
adrian_ottothis one is actually a new one16:51
adrian_ottowe should have looked at it in the previous sub-topic, but let's check it now….16:51
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-service-list Add service list to magnum (suro-patz)16:51
adrian_ottosuro-patz: proceed16:51
suro-patzI am looking for some clarification on the ask of this BP16:51
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adrian_ottoso this is a previously triaged BP, set to priority Medium16:52
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suro-patzit seems jay-lau-513 wanted that we should implement 'magnum service-list' as similar to 'nova service-list'16:52
adrian_ottoso we are looking at this for team discussion today, not administrative processing?16:52
suro-patzyes16:53
adrian_ottook, thanks suro-patz16:53
tcammannCan we move this to the ML?16:53
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suro-patzsure tcammann:16:53
suro-patzI will initiate a thread there, then16:53
adrian_ottotcammann: I did agree to taking a look today, but we are running a little short on time16:53
adrian_ottoso let's take this one to the ML, and we can pull in stakeholders to offer feedback16:54
adrian_ottoplease add yourself as a subscriber on this BP if you would like to discuss it16:54
adrian_ottosuro-patz: is that ok with you?16:54
suro-patzadiran_otto: absolutely16:55
adrian_ottothanks so much. would you like to be assigned to this?16:55
suro-patzlet's proceed16:55
suro-patzyes, please16:55
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adrian_ottook, you got it.16:55
adrian_otto#topic Open Discussion16:55
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daneyonA lot of talk around google joining openstack. Have their been any discussions on Google joining the M community?16:56
adrian_ottodaneyon: yes. I have been in touch with them16:56
daneyonany details that can be shared with the community?16:56
adrian_ottowe expect to regroup and plan participation ofter OSCON dust has settled16:56
daneyonOK16:56
daneyonI would like to discuss our heat templates, template definitions and definition entry points.16:57
adrian_ottolet me find the announcement for reference, one moment16:57
daneyonseems like their is considerable amount of code dup among templates of the same coe ttyoe16:57
daneyondo people agree?16:57
adrian_otto#link http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/16/google-signs-on-as-openstack-sponsor-will-contribute-container-tech/ Google Sponsors OpenStack16:57
tcammanndaneyon: I agree, was thinking about this to the other day16:57
adrian_ottothey would have been a higher level of sponsorship but the number of seats are limited16:57
daneyonif so, it seems like their is an opportunity to make temapltes as the associated def's/entry points more composible16:58
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daneyontcammann have you put thought into refactoring the templates/defs/ep's?16:59
adrian_ottodaneyon: yes, we talked in the past about applying more DRY principles to our templates16:59
tcammannMy wild idea was to make the templates programmatically, but I haven't thought too much about it16:59
daneyontcammann let me know if you would like to have a brainstorming session16:59
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adrian_ottowe stumbled on the fact that HOT format does not allow for conditional logic, so we started thinking about maybe using the environment feature as a workaround16:59
daneyonseems like a bp should be filed to refactor our template approach16:59
adrian_ottoI'm tempted to table that pursuit until we have a better way to solve it17:00
daneyonadrian_otto OK17:00
adrian_ottoI am happy to have a BP for that17:00
adrian_ottobut I am concerned about distracting us17:00
adrian_ottotime's up for today17:00
adrian_ottothanks everyoen for attending17:00
daneyontcammann let me know if you want to create the heat refactor bp or i will17:00
adrian_ottoour next meting is Tuesday 2015-07-28 at UTC 220017:01
jugglernp!17:01
adrian_otto#endmeeting17:01
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kzaitsev_mbthanks guys =)17:01
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adrian_ottokzaitsev_mb: thanks for your patience!17:01
kzaitsev_mb#startmeeting murano17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 21 17:01:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano'17:01
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kzaitsev_mbhi all, murano time17:02
katyaferventHi17:02
noa-koffmanHi17:02
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Nikolay_Sthi17:03
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sergmelikyano/17:03
sergmelikyanHi noa-koffman!17:03
mgershenHi17:03
sergmelikyanHappy to see you here :)17:03
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sergmelikyanmgershen: o/17:03
FilipBlahaHi17:03
noa-koffmanHi, happy to be here :)17:03
mgershen:D17:04
Nikolay_St:D17:04
sergmelikyanFilipBlaha: o/17:04
kzaitsev_mbAgenda for todays meeting: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda/Archive/2015-07-21/17:04
ativelkovo/17:04
kzaitsev_mbso we can start with action items review. There was only one — I had to update the yaql BP, to offload some work from slagun17:04
kzaitsev_mbI didn't, but katyafervent did the work anyway =)17:05
freerunnero/17:05
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kzaitsev_mbthank you katyafervent for that! =)17:05
katyafervent:)17:05
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Migrating to yaql 1.0 status.17:05
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kzaitsev_mbSo slagun is unable to attend, but I chatted with him and can give a status update17:06
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kzaitsev_mb1) the dsl is ported 2) yaql itself was improved by slagun. What's left is to port yaql functions of the engine (not dsl)17:07
kzaitsev_mbslagun promises to finish it by tomorrow =)17:07
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kzaitsev_mbthe WIP commits are #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204099/17:07
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kzaitsev_mband #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204103/17:08
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kzaitsev_mbSo let's hope that we'll see murano working on yaql 1.0 by the end of the week =)17:08
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: we need to coordinate with Mistral team on that17:08
sergmelikyanWe should switch to 1.0 together17:09
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: that's a good point!17:09
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katyaferventhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/migrate-to-yaql-vnext,n,z17:09
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katyaferventStan, please set corresponding topic to be able to see all commits17:10
katyaferventWe will release new version of yaql and update all the patches17:10
katyaferventso it's too early to merge them17:10
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kzaitsev_mbsorry, got disconnected17:12
kzaitsev_mb#action slagun coordinate yaql1.0 release with mistral guys17:12
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kzaitsev_mblets leave it like this, then17:12
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Assign CrossProjectLiason status for Oslo (and possibly Release management)17:13
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kzaitsev_mbso the next topic is about CPLs17:13
kzaitsev_mb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons for those who do not know who CPLs are17:14
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan, are you willing to share Oslo and Release duties with someone, right?17:14
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: will be happy to :)17:15
kzaitsev_mbI think I can take oslo, since I visit Oslo for horizon anyway, but that would make me have 3 CPL titles, whoch is a bit too much +)17:15
kzaitsev_mbkatyafervent: can you maybe take doc CPL from me? =)17:16
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: it takes too much of your time?17:16
kzaitsev_mbnot really, just the bus factor )17:17
katyaferventI don't know what I need to do17:17
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kzaitsev_mbkatyafervent: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation here's short info. you do not to do much, just be the person, that passes important news from doc team to murano and vice versa17:18
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katyaferventok17:19
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: and the release.. I'm not really sure about that one.17:19
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I will keep this one for now17:19
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kzaitsev_mbok, so if no objections katyafervent takes documentation CPL from me. I take oslo CPL from sergmelikyan. and sergmelikyan keeps release CPL.17:20
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Nikolay_Stkzaitsev_mb: no objections :)17:21
kzaitsev_mb#agreed katyafervent is the new doc CPL, kzaitsev_mb is the new oslo CPL, sergmelikyan is still the release CPL17:21
kzaitsev_mbI'll update the wiki, then =)17:22
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kzaitsev_mbLet's move to the openstack-murano question then17:22
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Voting: should we move to openstack-murano?17:22
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katyaferventrecently I wrote an email about that17:23
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kzaitsev_mb#startvote should we move to #openstack-murano? Yes, No, Abstain17:23
openstackBegin voting on: should we move to #openstack-murano? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain.17:23
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.17:23
sergmelikyanativelkov: summarized my thoughts around that, that's why I don't support this idea at all17:23
sergmelikyanNo17:23
sergmelikyan#vote No17:23
katyaferventmost of openstack project have openstack suffix.17:23
freerunner#vote Yes17:24
kzaitsev_mb#vote Abstain17:24
katyaferventIs that just heat has not that suffix?17:24
ativelkov#vote No17:24
FilipBlaha#vote Abstain17:24
katyaferventThere are a lot of resources where we providing our irc channel as #murano17:24
mgershen#vote Abstain17:24
kzaitsev_mbkatyafervent: there is a wiki page with all IRC channels17:24
noa-koffman#vote Abstain17:24
sergmelikyanativelkov: your vote?17:25
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kzaitsev_mb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC17:25
freerunnerI'm not see real significant reasons to stay in #murano17:25
ativelkovsergmelikyan: I did17:25
ativelkov#vote No17:25
ativelkovsee above)17:25
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sergmelikyanA really lot of resources, that's why I very negative about that17:25
sergmelikyan*I am17:25
Nikolay_Stcongres, heat and nova-docker17:25
katyafervent#vote No17:25
Nikolay_Stand also magneto-db17:25
Nikolay_St#vote Abstain17:26
ruhe#vote Yes17:27
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kzaitsev_mbon the one hand this make our channel a bit more consistent, but on the other would likely cause confusion and some trouble short and mid-term17:28
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sergmelikyanHeat is perfectly fine with they channel :)17:30
katyaferventwe loosing our time with vote "Abstain". there are should be just two options17:30
freerunnerkatyafervent: I'm really surprised that you vote 'No' in this voting. ;)17:30
sergmelikyanI don't see why we need to change ours17:30
sergmelikyanLet's finish the vote17:30
kzaitsev_mb#endvote17:30
openstackVoted on "should we move to #openstack-murano?" Results are17:30
openstackYes (2): freerunner, ruhe17:30
openstackAbstain (5): noa-koffman, FilipBlaha, kzaitsev_mb, mgershen, Nikolay_St17:30
openstackNo (3): katyafervent, ativelkov, sergmelikyan17:30
katyaferventI could affect the result)17:31
kzaitsev_mbkatyafervent: well, if we didn't have abstain, people could just ignore the vote to do so =)17:31
katyaferventI just imagine what we need to change17:31
katyaferventall docs together with readme's17:32
kzaitsev_mbso it's decided. We're staying in #murano17:32
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kzaitsev_mbkatyafervent: lot's of work, really =)17:32
kzaitsev_mb#topic Logging refactoring and the spec for it.17:32
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kzaitsev_mbour last topic for today17:32
kzaitsev_mbNikolay_St: can you pls elaborate?17:32
Nikolay_Stkzaitsev_mb: yeap17:33
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Nikolay_Stso, a few weeks ago when I just join the team I suggest an idea to write a loggin spec for murano like this one: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst17:33
Nikolay_StIt's a complex spec with general statements17:34
Nikolay_Stand here is the one I've adopted to sahara project: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html17:34
Nikolay_Stbut few week ago we use murano.common.log17:35
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Nikolay_Stand now we merged oslo_log into murano ana I also provide a patch with oslo_log to murano-dasboard17:35
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Nikolay_Stso, as for me it's time to work on spec with more specific log levels descriptions and rules17:36
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Nikolay_StI plan to do it myself17:36
kzaitsev_mb#link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/log-guidelines.rst17:36
Nikolay_Stwhat do you think do we need this spec?17:37
Nikolay_St#link  http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html17:37
sergmelikyanWe need this spect, but it's sure not a top priority thing17:37
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Nikolay_Stsergmelikyan: I rememer about amount of bugs17:38
kzaitsev_mbagree with sergmelikyan on that one. Would be really nice to have a guideline, but we're not desperate to have one =)17:38
Nikolay_StI'll do it in 'background'17:38
kzaitsev_mbNikolay_St: looks like a nice idea overall to me.17:38
katyafervent+117:38
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Nikolay_Stso, we can mark it as agreed, right?17:40
kzaitsev_mb#action Nikolay_St create a draft of the log guideline spec.17:40
Nikolay_Stnice17:40
kzaitsev_mbNikolay_St: yep, I think there are no objections to that one =)17:40
kzaitsev_mbso If you have time to work on it — it would be really nice.17:40
kzaitsev_mbok, then17:40
kzaitsev_mb#topic Open Discussion17:41
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kzaitsev_mbAnything you have to discuss about murano in general?17:41
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kzaitsev_mbOh! I think we have an announcement: python-muranoclient was released17:41
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kzaitsev_mbpython-muranoclient 0.6.2 to be specific with abandon feature support17:42
noa-koffmanI opened a bug today https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1476543, and wanted to see if there is an agreement about this issue17:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages/<package_id>/ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lin Yang (lin-a-yang)17:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages/<package_id>/ui does not return json" [Undecided,New]17:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1476543 in murano "catalog/packages/<package_id>/ui does not return json" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147654317:42
kzaitsev_mbbtw, sergmelikyan shouldn't we write about these to openstack-announce@lists.openstack.org ?17:42
Nikolay_Stnoa-koffman: right, I think it looks like bug17:43
sergmelikyannoa-koffman: definitely a bug17:43
sergmelikyanconfirmed17:43
noa-koffmanok thanks17:44
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: usually small releases are not announced17:44
kzaitsev_mbI think you can even say triaged ;)17:44
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noa-koffmanI also opened a bug regarding the version of murano endpoint in keystone, https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/147671617:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New]17:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New]17:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1476716 in murano "murano is registerd in keystone without API version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147671617:44
noa-koffmanthat we discussed about last week17:44
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: well there was recently a letter about glance_store 0.7.0..0.7.1 being released.17:45
sergmelikyanYep, thank you for that!17:45
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: well, than I would appreciate if you would send e-mail there17:45
sergmelikyanNikolay_St: can you take a look at the both of them?17:46
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Nikolay_Stsergmelikyan: you're talking about bugs?17:47
sergmelikyanyep17:47
kzaitsev_mbok I'll take a look at the list and send a letter there. I think we can start using that mailing list a bit more =)17:47
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kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: Lin Yang is working on one of those, we should try to catch the guy and ask him/her to visit our meetings sometime17:48
Nikolay_Stsergmelikyan: one of them is already assigned to Lin Yang17:48
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Nikolay_Stbut I'll take another one17:48
kzaitsev_mbhe seems to do some good job fixing some of our smaller bugs =)17:48
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noa-koffmanNikolay_St: ok great thanks17:49
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sergmelikyanAny other open questions? Or we can finish slightly earlier?17:53
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kzaitsev_mbI think we can. was witing for -5 mins17:55
kzaitsev_mbok, folks. Thanks everyone for attending!17:55
Nikolay_Stbye17:55
katyaferventBye17:55
noa-koffmanbye17:55
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kzaitsev_mbSee you next week or in #murano17:55
FilipBlahabye17:55
kzaitsev_mb#endmeeting17:55
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vipul#startmeeting cue18:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 21 18:01:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vipul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cue'18:01
vipulsame time.. new day18:01
vipulroll call..18:01
esmute_0/18:01
dkalleghey o/18:02
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vipulsputnik13, abitha[tab][tab]18:02
vipul#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Cue18:02
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vipul#topic action items18:03
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vipul#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-13-18.01.txt18:03
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sputnik13o/18:03
vipulok i'll skip davide's actions18:04
sputnik13http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-07-13-18.01.html18:04
sputnik13this one has links :)18:04
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vipulhtml pfft18:04
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vipulsputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka18:04
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* sputnik13 kicks the can further down18:05
vipul#action sputnik13 to fill in details for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cue/+spec/kafka18:05
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sputnik13I couldn't get kafka to work at all18:05
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sputnik13I'm trying to pass a message to kafka and consume it when it's clustered18:05
sputnik13and it just kept breaking18:05
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vipulhmm.. that's kind of foundational stuff..18:05
esmute_sputnik13: is this just a standalone kafka?18:05
sputnik13I think there's more investigation to be done, and I need to get help from someone who's done this before18:05
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sputnik13esmute_ clustered kafka18:06
esmute_or are you trying to get it in cue?18:06
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vipulok we should understand how to stand it up properly.. and see if that impacts cue in any way..18:06
vipulin terms of our api, etc.18:06
sputnik13esmute_: standalone18:06
sputnik13vipul: agreed, I'll continue banging away at it18:06
vipulok cool18:07
vipulesmute__ to follow up with patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194324/) and ensure it gets merged18:07
vipulwhy does esmute_ have an underscore18:07
esmute_vipul: that merged long ago18:07
esmute_the int-tests are now voting and they are run during gating18:07
vipuloh yes.. its voting now18:07
vipulthey seem to be pretty consistent too..18:07
sputnik13vipul I think you're looking at the wrong list18:08
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sputnik13the one at the top are the topics from last week, we talked about those actions last week18:08
vipuloh damn18:08
vipulwhat's the link18:08
sputnik13the actions from last week are half way down18:08
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vipulgot it..18:08
sputnik13it so happens that we've had the same two issues for davide and I for the past 2 weeks :)18:08
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vipulok so only other one is sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142930418:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1429304 in Cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Steve Leon (steve-leon)18:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete]18:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142930418:09
sputnik13still to be done18:09
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esmute_sputnik13: going back to kafka, doesnt monasca use kafka for their checks? perhaps you could go ask them18:09
sputnik13I'll work with esmute_ to get it confirmed18:09
sputnik13esmute_: I'm using monasca's kafka playbook18:10
sputnik13yeah I'm planning to talk with them18:10
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vipul#action sputnik13 to follow up on confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142930418:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1429304 in Cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Steve Leon (steve-leon)18:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete]18:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429304 in cue "Error 400 Bad Request when adding a limit to the cluster list URL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142930418:10
vipulOk that's it for actions..18:11
vipulwe don't have any discussion topics18:11
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vipulAnyone have anything they wnat to bring up before we go to bugs/18:12
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* vipul needs to do a better job at adding stuff to agenda prior to meeting 18:12
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vipul#topic bugs18:13
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sputnik13let's squash them bugs18:13
vipulget ready.. this link is going to be awesome18:13
vipulhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&field.importance%3Alist=MEDIUM&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&fiel18:13
vipuld.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search18:13
vipuldamn that didn't work18:13
esmute_doesnt work18:14
vipulhttp://bit.ly/1MChDwJ18:14
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vipul^ much better18:14
sputnik13hah, beat me to it18:14
sputnik13same link as mine18:14
vipulconsistent hashing :)18:14
sputnik13yeah but the has is so small, I wonder how they make it unique18:15
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sputnik13whatever...  bugz18:15
vipulare there bugs on that list that need to be scrubbed?18:15
sputnik13there are 2 High18:15
sputnik13in New state18:15
sputnik13so we should look at them and triage them at minimum18:15
vipulok let's start with https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/145295918:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1452959 in Cue "cluster does not ERROR on missing broker metadata" [High,New]18:16
esmute_use a tiny url18:16
esmute_or bitly18:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1452959 in cue "cluster does not ERROR on missing broker metadata" [High,New]18:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1452959 in cue "cluster does not ERROR on missing broker metadata" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145295918:16
sputnik13esmute_: we did, keep up with the convo man :)18:16
vipul15 lines up :P18:16
esmute_i cant access those link for some reason18:16
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esmute_my internet is shitty18:16
vipulso this one should be easy to fix..18:17
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sputnik13is it High?18:17
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vipulIt's unlikely that we will have missing broker metadata.. if you've followed the deployment docs though18:17
vipulso i wouldn't think it's a high pri18:18
sputnik13there's also no loss of data and no complete failure18:18
vipulit's a deployment error, not something the user can influence18:18
sputnik13right but, the workaround is just delete it18:18
esmute_how can the metadata get missing?18:18
sputnik13oh wait I get it18:19
sputnik13esmute_: this is broker metadata, it's a cue control plane setup issue18:19
vipulesmute_: it can't.. unless you've set things up incorrectly18:19
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vipulok changing status to confirmed / priority to medium?18:20
sputnik13on the positive side cue doesn't die :)18:20
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esmute_so its a deployment issue... but this could be a small issue of something larger18:20
sputnik13confirmed and I'd say low18:20
vipulesmute_: how so18:20
esmute_we should introduce a timeout so that the cluster get to ERROR if something is wrong18:20
sputnik13Medium = Failure of a significant feature, with workaround or Failure of a fringe feature, no workaround18:21
esmute_there will be cases of random issues when deployment doesnt go as planned..18:21
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vipulis this a case where we don't actually begin to invoke the flow?18:21
vipulthere may be some stuff on the API side that isn't catching errors correctly18:21
sputnik13wait, let's not talk about how to do it18:21
vipulbut i agree esmute_  we need to be do a catch all to error18:21
sputnik13what I mean is "timeout" is a specific implementation18:22
sputnik13and in this instance it's the wrong one18:22
sputnik13what we want is for the indication to be ERROR instead of BUILDING18:22
vipulsputnik13: why didn't the flow revert handle thigs18:22
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esmute_sputnik13: can cue detect that the broker metadata is missing?18:22
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sputnik13that's what the bug is also indicating as the failure, so the resolution is for the flow to fail and set ERROR rather than leaving things in BUILDING18:23
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sputnik13vipul: I think this might be related to an issue we had in the past where failure in subflows was not triggering a rollback of the surrounding flow18:23
vipulalthough you fixed that in taskflow18:24
sputnik13we addressed that bug, and this could be resolved, it might not18:24
esmute_sputnik13: is the task retrying or does it just fail due to metadata missing and it doesnt report the status to the flow?18:24
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vipulok.. the other thing i was thinking is maybe this is a api side issue..18:24
sputnik13I think this bug predates that fix18:24
vipulwhere we haven't actually submited a job18:24
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sputnik13that's another possibility18:24
vipulwould be nice to have a stacktrace :P18:25
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sputnik13yes *somebody* filed an incomplete bug report18:25
esmute_so are we trying to come up with a fix here or are we debating whether this bug should be fixed and its priority?18:25
sputnik13*somebody*...  not going to say who18:25
vipulupdated status to incomplete18:25
vipullet's find out if this is really an issue18:25
esmute_some guy whose name is 'min pae'18:25
sputnik13esmute_: we should be debating the bug and its priority18:25
vipulor if taskflow fixed things18:25
sputnik13vipul: it should also be reprioritized, either medium or low18:26
vipulit's set to low18:26
vipulif someone gets a deployment without broker metadata.. try to build a cluster and capture the errors18:26
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sputnik13ok18:27
esmute_it should be low because it is a deployment issue.... in happy path deployment, this should not happen right?18:27
vipulthat's the theory18:27
sputnik13esmute_: correct18:27
vipulhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/146982318:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1469823 in Cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,New]18:27
vipulnext up18:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1469823 in cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,New]18:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1469823 in cue "Delete Cluster fails when Cluster contains VM's which have already been deleted" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146982318:27
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vipulok this is a hard one to repro18:28
esmute_so does this happen because the list-port task is not checking whether the vms exist?18:28
sputnik13vipul: davideagnello has a fix for it already18:28
sputnik13esmute_: yes18:29
vipulwell in that case.. :D18:29
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sputnik13is the priority correct though?18:29
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vipuldoes it leak resources?18:29
esmute_sputnik13: are ports associated with VMs? ie can a port exist on its own?18:29
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sputnik13esmute_: yes and yes18:29
sputnik13vipul: not sure, I guess it's a possibility18:29
esmute_sputnik13: so why does it need to check whether the VM exists? Shouldnt it check only if the port exists and delete them if they do.18:30
esmute_i guess i can look at davide's patch18:30
vipuli would say if there is a potential of things being left around and the user can't clean them up.. then it probably is at the right priority18:30
sputnik13esmute_: there's a nova port list prior to the port delete18:30
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sputnik13vipul: ok18:31
vipulyou mena a neutron port list?18:31
sputnik13vipul: no I think it's a nova port list18:31
sputnik13to get the ports that belong to the vm18:31
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esmute_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196332/18:31
vipuldavide uses hotmail :P18:31
esmute_its this one right?18:31
sputnik13davideagnello is of soft micro18:32
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vipulok other ones are all medium18:32
sputnik13should we go through the mediums?18:33
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vipulwe do have some time let's go quick18:33
vipulok https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142513018:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1425130 in Cue "Refactor Cue TaskFlow tasks" [Medium,New]18:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1425130 in cue "Refactor Cue TaskFlow tasks" [Medium,New]18:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1425130 in cue "Refactor Cue TaskFlow tasks" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142513018:33
sputnik13that's a wishlist at best18:33
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sputnik13it's related to the os_tasklib stuff as well, there's no bug18:34
sputnik13it's a refactor18:34
esmute_i dont understand this bug18:34
esmute_sputnik13: can you ELI5?18:34
vipulyea it's more of a nice to have18:34
sputnik13it's refactoring, we should make it wishlist18:34
vipulELI5?18:34
esmute_Explain Like I'm 5?18:34
sputnik13ELI518:35
vipulyou redditors18:35
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sputnik13http://bfy.tw/vFY18:35
dkallegupvote18:35
sputnik13power of the google18:35
sputnik13esmute_: it's a refactor18:35
sputnik13next bug18:35
vipulhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142610318:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1426103 in Cue "Validate UUID API parameter's at API layer instead of DB interface" [Medium,New]18:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1426103 in cue "Validate UUID API parameter's at API layer instead of  DB interface" [Medium,New]18:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1426103 in cue "Validate UUID API parameter's at API layer instead of  DB interface" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142610318:36
sputnik13that looks like another refactor to me18:36
vipulare we returning the wrong error code?18:36
sputnik13not sure...  so it's incomplete as well18:37
vipulok i'll put a comment18:37
dkallegDoes this make it more difficult to debug an invalid UUID issue?18:37
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dkallegOr is the current output still obvious?18:37
esmute_this seems like a validate needs to happen at the API level?18:37
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vipuldkalleg: i think we should be doing input validation.. instead of relying on a lower level subsystem to catch the input error18:38
sputnik13esmute_: that may be true but if the functionality is correct then it's a refactor not a bug18:38
sputnik13in which case it would be more low or wishlist, not medium18:38
vipul+1 if we should be returning a 500 or something else.. and we're not.. then it's a higher priority and a real bug18:38
dkallegvipul: agreed.  I ask if it is currently made obvious when a invalid UUID is passed in to help prioritize18:39
esmute_vipul: 500 sounds scary18:39
esmute_it should be 40418:39
esmute_500 internal server error18:39
vipul404 not found ?18:39
vipulyes that makes sense actually on a GET18:40
esmute_vipul: yes.. 404 not found... the user is sending an invalid UUID18:40
vipulin that case this is a bug18:40
dkallegIf it doesn't currently say "<error code>: you passed in an invalid UUID dum dum", then it seems important to correct that more quickly.18:40
vipulsounds like you just get a 400 bad request18:41
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vipulsputnik13: are you updating the ubg?18:41
vipuls/ubg/bug18:41
sputnik13I asked the question "is the response correct?"18:41
sputnik13"Is the response code correct? What is the anomalous behavior?"18:41
vipulwe should be returning a 404 sputnik1318:42
sputnik13I think he's saying we're returning 40018:42
vipulyea that sounds like we should just confirm it and prioritize18:42
sputnik13400 vs 404 seems not that bad to me18:42
vipulit's not accurate..18:43
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sputnik13true, but other functionality is fine18:43
vipulREST is all about response codes.. and if we can't tell the user the right response code then our api sucks18:43
sputnik13cue is doing what it's supposed to18:43
sputnik13no argument there, but that's more a design change than a defect, it's doing things as designed18:44
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vipulthat's subjective.. you could say Cue should be telling me that ID doesn't exist18:44
sputnik13tomato tomato :)18:44
vipuli think it's at least a Medium priority confirmed bug..18:45
esmute_i think it is a simple enought fix that we can take care of it fast18:45
sputnik13I can see it either way, medium sounds fine18:45
dkalleg+118:45
esmute_like a low hanging fruit18:45
sputnik13is it confirmed?18:45
vipulIf davide has seen it.. then probably18:46
vipulok let's move on to the next one18:46
vipulhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/142964918:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1429649 in Cue "Consolidate cue.conf and worker.conf" [Medium,New]18:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429649 in cue "Consolidate cue.conf and worker.conf" [Medium,New]18:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1429649 in cue "Consolidate cue.conf and worker.conf" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142964918:46
dkallegSeems like another refactor18:47
sputnik13that's definitely wishlist18:47
vipulthis is a simple copy and paste to cue.conf18:47
vipuland a rm of woker.conf right?18:48
dkallegand verify and test, yada yada18:48
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sputnik13yeah18:48
dkallegIs Medium too high?18:48
esmute_why not just have separate conf for both?18:48
sputnik13dkalleg: there's no failure18:48
vipulcuz they 99% the same18:48
vipullow hanging fruit..18:48
dkallegsputnik13: Right.  Seems like a refactor.  So how are we prioritizing refactors?18:48
vipulalthough probably in the refactor category18:49
sputnik13dkalleg: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bugs18:49
sputnik13https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bugs#Importance18:49
dkallegsputnik13: gracias18:49
esmute_so this is for the 1%?18:49
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vipulesmute_: so we're saying we shouldn't maintain 2 separate confs for the 1% case18:50
dkallegWishlist +118:50
sputnik13it's a refactor, let's push it to wishlist and move on to other bugs, the finer point of how to get it done can be offline18:50
vipulok last bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cue/+bug/143611618:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1436116 in Cue "Cluster create API should accept username/password for rabbit endpoints" [Medium,New]18:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1436116 in cue "Cluster create API should accept username/password for rabbit endpoints" [Medium,New]18:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1436116 in cue "Cluster create API should accept username/password for rabbit endpoints" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143611618:50
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sputnik13that's also not a defect18:51
esmute_This is a feature.. so should be a BP and not a bug no?18:51
sputnik13that's a new feature18:51
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vipulBP sounds right18:51
vipulsputnik13: you're filing one right18:51
esmute_that BP should include also work in the client and dashboard18:51
sputnik13esmute_: I thought I did already18:51
esmute_you probably did sputnik1318:52
sputnik13hmm guess not18:52
vipulwe need to review the api changes this would have18:52
vipuland see if those make sense for qpid, kafka, etc18:52
sputnik13oh, right18:52
sputnik13yes bp :)18:52
sputnik13regardless this is wishlist, there's no "bp" importance18:52
vipulput a comment saying it shoudl be a BP18:53
vipuland link it when we have one18:53
esmute_this is coming up soon though18:53
esmute_its at the top in the backlog18:53
vipulyep.. something we want to get to soon18:53
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sputnik13we shouldn't confirm this a s a bug right?18:54
sputnik13it should be "won't fix"18:54
sputnik13it's not a bug18:54
sputnik13err sorry "Invalid"18:54
vipul#action sputnik13 to file a BP for user defined credentials for brokers18:54
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sputnik13marked it Invalid and Wishlist18:54
vipulok18:54
vipuldone with bugs for today18:55
vipul#topic open discussion18:55
sputnik13yay we're done 5 minutes early18:55
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sputnik13instead of 5 minutes late18:55
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sputnik13mid cycle!18:55
vipuloh yes!18:55
sputnik13we need a mid cycle18:55
vipulit will be held in seattle18:55
vipulat the HP offices18:55
sputnik13booooo18:55
vipuldetails to come18:55
vipul;D18:55
sputnik13we need to get some non-HP contributors18:56
vipulindeed18:56
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sputnik13somebody should go start a Cue company18:56
vipulso we can have a Cue day?18:56
sputnik13a Tesora for Cue18:56
sputnik13they're essentially a Trove company right?18:57
vipulpretty much18:57
sputnik13we need the equivalent for Cue, so we can do mid cycles :-D18:57
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sputnik13how many talks have we submitted for Tokyo?18:57
vipulbrb.. getting some funding18:57
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vipuli believe around 518:58
sputnik13I can invest $100 in your company, where does that put us in funding?18:58
sputnik13:)18:58
vipuland you want 10% i bet18:58
sputnik13no, I'm not that greedy, just 9%18:58
vipulok with that..18:58
vipul#endmeeting18:58
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adrian_otto#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting21:09
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 21 21:09:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:09
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:09
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting'21:09
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adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-07-21_2100_UTC Our Agenda21:10
adrian_otto#topic Roll Call21:10
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datsun180bEd Cranford21:10
adrian_ottoAdrian Otto21:10
james_lijames li21:10
devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni21:10
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adrian_otto#topic Announcements21:11
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adrian_ottoNo prepared announcements. Any announcements from team members?21:11
devkulkarnidimtruck: meeting has started21:11
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mkamMelissa Kam21:12
adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items21:12
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adrian_otto1) devkulkarni to check how to make solum's heat deployer pluggable to support different kinds of resources in different operational environments21:12
adrian_ottoStatus: complete21:12
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devkulkarnirandallburt has submitted a spec for this21:12
adrian_otto#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202254/ Spec for deployer plugins21:12
devkulkarniyep that one ^^21:12
adrian_ottocool, thanks!21:12
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devkulkarniplease review it whenever you all get a chance21:12
adrian_otto2) adrian_otto to follow up with devdatta-kulkarni about filing a heat plugability blueprint21:12
adrian_ottoStatus: complete21:12
devkulkarniI left it there21:13
adrian_otto3) dimtruck to check with devdatta-kulkarni aboutthe stauts of the namespace migration to the openstack git namespace, and file openstack-config reviews as needed if they have not already been created.21:13
devkulkarnibut could have been removed from the wiki21:13
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devkulkarniok, on this I have two updates21:13
devkulkarniso first is the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201287/21:13
adrian_ottook, looks like this one is complete. Proceed devkulkarni21:13
adrian_otto#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1472409 Rename stackforge/solum to openstack/solum21:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1472409 in Solum "Task: Rename stackforge/solum to openstack/solum" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Devdatta (devdatta-kulkarni)21:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1472409 in solum "Task: Rename stackforge/solum to openstack/solum" [Wishlist,In progress]21:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1472409 in solum "Task: Rename stackforge/solum to openstack/solum" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147240921:13
devkulkarniI haven't gotten around to chasing that -1 from Jenkins yet.21:14
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devkulkarniI know what the fix is but have been busy with our downstream CI and deployment stuff.21:14
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devkulkarniI will get back to fixing the Jenkins -1 soon.21:14
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devkulkarniApart from that, there is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201693/21:14
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devkulkarniadrian_otto: we need your +1 on this one21:15
adrian_ottook21:15
devkulkarnicheck dhellman's comment on that patch21:15
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devkulkarnionce both these reviews are merged then we should be good I guess21:15
devkulkarniI will pursue both these this week21:16
james_licool21:16
adrian_ottook, voted on that21:16
devkulkarniawesome!21:16
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devkulkarniwill keep all updated when the switch to openstack org happens21:16
devkulkarniif it happens this week21:16
adrian_ottook, ready for Blueprint/Task Review?21:17
devkulkarnithat is all on this topic21:17
adrian_otto#topic Blueprint/Task Review21:17
devkulkarnisure21:17
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adrian_ottodevkulkarni: Give status update on the vagrant setup (currently not starting up)21:17
devkulkarniso our vagrant environment is currently not starting up21:17
devkulkarnidatsun180b: you were briefly looking into it yesterday I believe?21:17
devkulkarniany insights/suggestions on what we need to do to fix?21:18
datsun180bThat's right, the best I could determine is the docker registry hadn't started21:18
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datsun180bBut docker had21:18
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devkulkarniso vagrant up never completed successfully, right?21:18
devkulkarniI was seeing this behavior couple of days back21:18
datsun180bThe machine can be powered up and most everything is there, but running devstack to give us our dev environment ultimately fails21:19
devkulkarniyeah. that was what I was seeing as well21:19
datsun180bI haven't had the time recently to do much more investigation, unfortunately21:19
datsun180bWhat I'd do next is get on the box and follow the progress of ./stack.sh a little more closely21:20
devkulkarnidatsun180b: thats okay.. I will try to get to this one soon.21:20
datsun180bSorry I don't have much more of a game plan21:20
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devkulkarnithat makes sense..21:20
devkulkarnidatsun180b: may ping you when I am debugging the issue21:20
datsun180bThat's fine with me21:20
devkulkarnithanks datsun180b21:20
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devkulkarniadrian_otto: we can go to next point21:21
adrian_ottodevkulkarni: Would like to sync up with james_li on the status of bash to python patches. Check what help is needed to move it forward.21:21
devkulkarnijames_li I believe you were blocked by our config generator21:22
james_liadrian_otto: devkulkarni: yeah I need more time on migrating to oslo config generator21:22
james_liwhich blocks my bash2python patches to be merged21:23
devkulkarnijames_li: is there any help that I can provide?21:23
dimtruckhi!  i'm sorry - i was moving around and couldn't get online.21:23
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devkulkarnidimtruck: no worries21:23
adrian_ottodimtruck, the next agenda item involved you, so stay tuned.21:23
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james_lidevkulkarni: I can show you how heat and glance did for that config migration if you want21:23
devkulkarnijames_li: if you create bug for the config generator issue and add how heat and glance approach, then I can take that up21:24
james_liok sounds good21:24
adrian_ottojames_li: are you willing to take an action item for that?21:24
james_liadrian_otto: yes I will create a bug for that21:24
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adrian_otto#action james_li to file a bug about the config generator explaining how heat and glance solved this. Assign it to devkulkarni.21:25
adrian_ottook, we are still in task review. Just completed 2/421:25
adrian_otto3) devkulkarni: Would like to sync up with dimtruck on the status of ops guide. Check what help is needed to move it forward.21:25
dimtrucki'm about to push a patch for this21:26
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devkulkarnidimtruck: +121:26
dimtrucki need to talk to devkulkarni about the use of conductor service21:26
dimtruckin our infrastructure21:26
devkulkarnidimtruck: we can sync up21:26
dimtruckok, great!21:26
dimtruckother than that, i ahve the notes written up.21:26
adrian_ottothat concludes 3/421:26
adrian_otto4) devkulkarni: Would like to sync up with datsun180b on the workflow resource. Check what help is needed.21:26
datsun180bpresent21:26
devkulkarnidatsun180b: saw your wip patch21:27
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datsun180bI've submitted a pair of WIPs toward implementing the workflow resource21:27
devkulkarniwas wondering if you can add a link to your spec to the commit message21:27
datsun180b#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204164/21:27
devkulkarnidid you submit one for cli as well? nice!21:27
datsun180b#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204165/21:27
devkulkarnidatsun180b: will start looking through these soon21:28
devkulkarnidatsun180b: thanks for getting these patches out21:28
adrian_ottoany more on this topic? I can proceed to open discussion when we are ready.21:29
devkulkarnithat is all on this topic21:29
datsun180bNothing to add21:29
adrian_otto#topic Open Discussion21:29
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devkulkarniI don't have any topic today21:29
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adrian_ottook, we can wrap up if we don't have more to cover.21:30
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devkulkarnifine with me21:30
* adrian_otto pausing for another minute21:30
adrian_ottoOur next team meeting is scheduled for 2015-07-2821:31
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adrian_ottodoes it make sense to go to every other week?21:31
adrian_ottoor should we keep the weekly schedule?21:31
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devkulkarnifor now I think we can still keep weekly.. gives a time to sync up21:31
adrian_ottook21:32
datsun180bIt's like laundry, all it will do is accumulate21:32
adrian_ottoOur next team meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 2015-07-28 at 2100 UTC.21:32
devkulkarni:)21:32
adrian_ottosee you then!21:32
adrian_otto#endmeeting21:32
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-07-21-21.09.log.html21:32
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