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| n0ano | #startmeeting nove-scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 14:00:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nove-scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nove_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 14:00 |
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| lxsli | yo | 14:05 |
| lxsli | inb4 bauzas | 14:05 |
| bauzas | \.......o | 14:05 |
| n0ano | looks like jay is not on, oh well | 14:05 |
| n0ano | #topic liberty specs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty specs (Meeting topic: nove-scheduler)" | 14:06 | |
| n0ano | big issues is bauzas you are rather overloaded, are there some patches you can hand off to interested 3rd parties? | 14:06 |
| bauzas | nova-scheduler ? | 14:06 |
| bauzas | or nove-scheduler ? fancy | 14:06 |
| n0ano | sigh, don't go away | 14:07 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:07 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 14:07:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nove_scheduler/2015/nove_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.00.html | 14:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nove_scheduler/2015/nove_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.00.txt | 14:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nove_scheduler/2015/nove_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.00.log.html | 14:07 |
| n0ano | #startmeeting nova-scheduler | 14:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 14:07:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:07 |
| n0ano | just so the logging is correct | 14:07 |
| n0ano | #topic liberty-specs | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty-specs (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:07 | |
| n0ano | bauzas, lxsli are hee | 14:07 |
| lxsli | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nove_scheduler/2015/nove_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.00.log.html | 14:07 |
| bauzas | _o | 14:07 |
| n0ano | g issues is bauzas you are rather overloaded, are there some patches you can hand off to interested 3rd parties? | 14:08 |
| n0ano | s/^g/big | 14:08 |
| bauzas | so, like I said, I'm done with implementing the RequestSpec object BP | 14:08 |
| n0ano | bauzas, congratulationgs, that's a big one | 14:08 |
| * n0ano cannot type this morning, just interpolate what I'm trying to say | 14:08 | |
| bauzas | so, now, I'm like oncall, waiting for reviews | 14:08 |
| bauzas | and then, the upload dance | 14:09 |
| n0ano | bauzas, didn't you have a migration spec also? | 14:09 |
| bauzas | n0ano: so, yeah, what we're missing is | 14:09 |
| bauzas | 1/ resource-objects -> jay's on it | 14:10 |
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| bauzas | 2/ check-dest-on-migrations -> spec's been approved last week \o/ | 14:10 |
| bauzas | 3/ alloc-ratios-to-RT -> spec approved, implem begun | 14:10 |
| bauzas | what's taken by alaski is persist-request-spec | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | so, here is the thing | 14:12 |
| bauzas | I can play with alloc-ratios-to-RT because that's already started, with high chances of getting it done for L3 | 14:12 |
| bauzas | what I won't really have time for is the check-dest-on-mig BP | 14:13 |
| bauzas | *that said* | 14:13 |
| bauzas | check-dest-on-mig requires persist-req-spec from alaski like I said in f2f meeting | 14:13 |
| bauzas | during midcycle | 14:13 |
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| bauzas | so, like I said, I'm pretty +1 with offloading my work | 14:13 |
| bauzas | I'm just honestly wondering what can be offloaded, hence the spec reading etc. | 14:14 |
| n0ano | we should be able to create some proto-type code based upon what alaski will do and then adjust it as his patches get approved | 14:14 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: that could work | 14:14 |
| bauzas | n0ano: tbh, the persistence story is just for making sure that the scheduler knows everything about the original request before being called | 14:15 |
| n0ano | I know I have some engineers that would love to work on this, I can have them start looking at it. | 14:15 |
| bauzas | n0ano: since the spec is focusing on fixing the migration, that means that the instance has been already booted | 14:15 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: well, I heard about lxsli | 14:15 |
| lxsli | yeah edleafe + I were both proposed | 14:16 |
| bauzas | n0ano: I would certainly wait for jay before deciding anythong | 14:16 |
| bauzas | anything even :p | 14:16 |
| n0ano | lxsli, edleafe your call if you want to volunteer for this | 14:16 |
| alaski | getting persistence for req-spec will be necessary for using it after scheduling, but any code that wants to use it can work off of bauzas req-spec object patch for prototyping | 14:16 |
| bauzas | I know that edleafe is pretty busy too with the API stuff | 14:16 |
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| n0ano | alaski, tnx, that's what I was hoping for | 14:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah, that's my thoughts, the prototype can be worked on before that | 14:17 |
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| lxsli | yeah I can work on it | 14:17 |
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| bauzas | and you know, I'm French | 14:18 |
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| n0ano | I'm willing to let lxsli lead on this (I can get you help if you need it), I'm pretty sure jay would be comfortable with that | 14:18 |
| bauzas | which means that in order to respect our local habits, I should certainly shut myself down during August | 14:18 |
| n0ano | bauzas, I forgot about that, we will have to keep that in mind | 14:19 |
| bauzas | I'm planning to take 2 weeks off | 14:19 |
| bauzas | lxsli: your take on that ? | 14:19 |
| bauzas | Aug1-15 probably | 14:19 |
| n0ano | bauzas, only 2 weeks? I'm surprised :-) | 14:19 |
| lxsli | bauzas: on... you taking holiday? Shouldn't be a problem | 14:19 |
| bauzas | n0ano: I have KVM Forum to attend | 14:19 |
| lxsli | I'll end up taking mine in December as usual | 14:20 |
| bauzas | lxsli: no, you on taking holiday too ? you're English, which means you're like French but with an hat instead of a frog | 14:20 |
| n0ano | 2 months out of the gone, Aug. for the French, Dec for the Anglo's | 14:20 |
| n0ano | s/the gone/the year gone | 14:20 |
| bauzas | so, yeah, let's loopback that with jay anyway | 14:21 |
| n0ano | bauzas, fer sur | 14:21 |
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| bauzas | véri ouelle | 14:21 |
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| n0ano | #action lxsli to take lead on implementing select destination on migration BP | 14:21 |
| edleafe | sorry guys, getting in late | 14:22 |
| * edleafe reads scrollback... | 14:22 | |
| n0ano | edleafe, NP, you dodged a bullet, we gave all the work to lxsli | 14:22 |
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| bauzas | niark niark | 14:22 |
| lxsli | yay | 14:22 |
| * bauzas makes little ugly noises | 14:22 | |
| edleafe | I do have some bandwidth available | 14:23 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: you're on the API subteam right? | 14:23 |
| lxsli | motion: propose edleafe spend all his spare time hassling dan to review jay's spec | 14:23 |
| n0ano | edleafe, do you want a cage match with lxsli on who does the migration work? | 14:23 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I'm telling that, because since the API subteam has an extra time for merging, maybe you could help them too | 14:24 |
| edleafe | n0ano: It wouldn't be a fair fight. :) | 14:24 |
| bauzas | IIRC, lxsli is facing FF by Thursday | 14:24 |
| * lxsli thinks edleafe would fight mean | 14:24 | |
| n0ano | edleafe, what about your Cassandra work, that should be interesting | 14:24 |
| lxsli | bauzas: waaait did I volunteer to do this by Thursday?! | 14:24 |
| bauzas | lxsli: naaaaaaah | 14:25 |
| bauzas | lxsli: I mean, you have some other BPs to care, right? | 14:25 |
| edleafe | n0ano: that's been shelved | 14:25 |
| bauzas | lxsli: I remember the DB purge | 14:25 |
| lxsli | bauzas: oh right - those aren't priorities | 14:25 |
| bauzas | lxsli: so, yeah, which means that by Thursday, you should get plenty of time | 14:25 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, really? I hope not for long, I think it's interesting and shouldn't be dropped | 14:26 |
| bauzas | n0ano: weren't you following the convo on Wed ? | 14:26 |
| edleafe | n0ano: you were at the midcycle | 14:26 |
| lxsli | n0ano: I thought the outcome was "interesting, but later" | 14:26 |
| edleafe | n0ano: it wasn't deemed an important enough priority to spend any time on | 14:26 |
| edleafe | lxsli: exactly - shelved | 14:26 |
| bauzas | moving on, then ? | 14:27 |
| n0ano | I'm with lxsli , that's what I heard, not forget about it | 14:27 |
| lxsli | let's move on | 14:27 |
| n0ano | OK | 14:27 |
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| edleafe | n0ano: that's what 'shelved' means | 14:27 |
| lxsli | edleafe: we're agreeing with you :) | 14:28 |
| edleafe | n0ano: put it on a shelf for now, and come back to it sometime in the future | 14:28 |
| n0ano | #topic expose host capabilities | 14:28 |
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| n0ano | I kind of wanted jay here for this and I also wanted the email thread that johnthetubaguy was going to start on the ML | 14:28 |
| n0ano | so we might be a little premature on this | 14:29 |
| n0ano | basically, I think everyone agrees that overloading extra_specs is not the best way to expose host capabilities | 14:29 |
| n0ano | so we need to create a new API for this | 14:29 |
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| bauzas | wait wait wait ? | 14:30 |
| bauzas | I probably missed that then :) | 14:30 |
| bauzas | what where and when ? | 14:30 |
| bauzas | a new API ? | 14:30 |
| n0ano | we talked about this late on wed, you probably dopped off, it's in the etherpad | 14:30 |
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| * bauzas overlooks | 14:30 | |
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| n0ano | bauzas, yeah, not something we'll do for Liberty of course but we neeed to start thinking about this for M or N | 14:31 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: aaaah that | 14:32 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: yeah I remember now the convo | 14:32 |
| bauzas | n0ano: well, I think it's a little premature | 14:32 |
| n0ano | I don't know if we need a new API call, an extension to a current API or what but I do think we need something other than overloaded extra_specs | 14:32 |
| bauzas | n0ano: IIRC, the take was "let's keep that in mind, and discuss that back in Tokyo" | 14:32 |
| lxsli | n0ano: which spec + line # please? | 14:32 |
| lxsli | s/spec/pad/ | 14:33 |
| n0ano | bauzas, hence my desire to start a ML thread | 14:33 |
| bauzas | n0ano: that's why you lost me with the "new API" stuff | 14:33 |
| n0ano | bauzas, I was extrapolating, I don't see how we can do this without a new API | 14:33 |
| n0ano | lxsli, it's the mid-cycle etherpad, let me find a link | 14:33 |
| edleafe | n0ano: or a new design ;-) | 14:33 |
| bauzas | n0ano: so you were talking about a REST API resource ? | 14:33 |
| bauzas | lxsli: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-midcycle L92 and below | 14:34 |
| n0ano | bauzas, don't know yet, that's why I want people to start thinking about it | 14:34 |
| lxsli | Got it thanks | 14:34 |
| bauzas | n0ano: okay, I plugged into your brain, I understand what you wanted to say | 14:34 |
| n0ano | bauzas, tnx for the link, I always have trouble finding them | 14:34 |
| bauzas | n0ano: in other words, we need a discovery mechanism | 14:35 |
| lxsli | right yes cpu capabilities on power being a key sticking point iirc | 14:35 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: but I certainly think that this subject is by far widier than just the scheduler component | 14:35 |
| n0ano | bauzas, both discovery and specify, I don't think extra_specs is the best way to specify them either | 14:35 |
| n0ano | bauzas, I'm not sure I see that, who else would be concerned? | 14:35 |
| bauzas | n0ano: because it touches the API, the flavors, the scheduler and the compute manager | 14:36 |
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| bauzas | by saying "the API", I'm talking about n-api | 14:36 |
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| bauzas | so I would certainly wait for johnthetubaguy's work :p | 14:37 |
| n0ano | bauzas, I don't think I'm saying n-api but the user has to be able to specify things so it could wind up changing n-api also, it's too early to tell | 14:37 |
| lxsli | he said he was pretty snowed opening L-2 right now | 14:37 |
| bauzas | he volunteered on that, that's his curse :p | 14:37 |
| * johnthetubaguy wonders what work he is doing? | 14:37 | |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-midcycle L99 | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | what did I promise to do now? | 14:38 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, you said you'd start a ML thread on exposing host capabilities | 14:38 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, if you're too busy, I can do that for you | 14:38 |
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| bauzas | can we just hold on that until at least jay's in ? | 14:39 |
| bauzas | :p | 14:39 |
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| bauzas | I mean, that's his thoughts, I would certainly love to hear what he thinks about | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, it coming back to me now | 14:39 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: too many beers in Rochester ? too bad | 14:39 |
| n0ano | bauzas, WFM, this is longer term and doesn't require immediate action, I just don't want to forget about it | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | so folks here, feel free to start the ML thread, and ping me to respond | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: sadly, no such problem | 14:40 |
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| bauzas | okay, my take on that is waiting for jay | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | the basic idea I had was, please discuss the user view in backlog specs where we agree the problem to solve | 14:40 |
| bauzas | we need some clarification internally without writing anything :) | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | at the same time, we can talk about how we want to do flavors | 14:40 |
| lxsli | n0ano: if you start the thread, please focus on defining the scope of the issue at first? If you propose a solution we'll get bogged down in that | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | then we can compare the solution with the list of problems we need to solve | 14:40 |
| lxsli | ok much like john just said ^^ | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | the idea being to stop worrying about extra specs vs something else, but agree the user concepts we need | 14:41 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: any user SLA should be part of the discussion IMHO - flavors and hints | 14:41 |
| n0ano | lxsli, don't worry, I certainly have no intention of proposing a solution, I don't know what it is yet | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: yeah, same difference | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | so summary, don't wait for me to start an ML thread, just go for it | 14:41 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, tnx, I'll just touch base with jay and then do something | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we will have a better discussion if we focus on the user, and ignore the solution for now, and keep that conversation separate for now | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think thats all | 14:42 |
| bauzas | yup | 14:42 |
| bauzas | totally | 14:42 |
| n0ano | #action n0ano to start ML on host capabilites after talking to jay | 14:42 |
| n0ano | I think we're all in violent agreement | 14:43 |
| bauzas | I was thinking Jay was in Florida, not in Bermudas :p | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: +1 | 14:43 |
| lxsli | moving on? | 14:43 |
| bauzas | hell yeah | 14:43 |
| n0ano | lxsli, maybe | 14:43 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 14:43 |
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| bauzas | I got one | 14:43 |
| n0ano | anything new for today | 14:43 |
| lxsli | me too | 14:43 |
| bauzas | bugs ! | 14:43 |
| n0ano | bauzas, go for it | 14:43 |
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| n0ano | bauzas, any specific ones or just in general | 14:44 |
| bauzas | soooo, just to offtouch something to markus_z | 14:44 |
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| markus_z | present | 14:44 |
| bauzas | the thoughts are | 14:44 |
| bauzas | we know we have bugs | 14:44 |
| bauzas | for the scheduler, we have 23 | 14:44 |
| bauzas | which is fairly decent | 14:44 |
| bauzas | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=scheduler | 14:44 |
| lxsli | I should fix some bugs | 14:44 |
| bauzas | the idea is not to *fix* bugs | 14:45 |
| lxsli | I can make new ones too! | 14:45 |
| bauzas | but rather to see how to help markus_z with following the bugs | 14:45 |
| markus_z | :) | 14:45 |
| markus_z | bauzas: You mainly use the "scheduler" tag, right? | 14:45 |
| bauzas | what I pretty appreciate is the Critical bugs review we do during Nova meetings | 14:45 |
| n0ano | markus_z, is working on all 23 bugs? | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | making sure we advertise the bugs with good fixes to the core team, would be good | 14:45 |
| bauzas | what I would like to see is how, as a subteam, we could leverage bugtracking at least for our component | 14:46 |
| bauzas | ie. identify new high severity bugs, identify ones without assignees | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | its kinda covered here, BTW https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage | 14:46 |
| n0ano | what johnthetubaguy said | 14:47 |
| bauzas | and weekly review the ones | 14:47 |
| bauzas | well, you should see a known name in there | 14:47 |
| n0ano | bauzas, we can certainly add bugs as an ongoing agenda item | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | now I would love you to highlight stuff that needs review, and stuff that not being worked here, that sounds awesome | 14:47 |
| bauzas | n0ano: that was my thoughts | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools | 14:47 |
| n0ano | #action n0ano to add bugs as an ongoing agenda item to this weekly meeting | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know it doesn't work yet, but I am still wanting to push this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I hope that helps your patches get wider attention | 14:48 |
| bauzas | okay, markus_z feel free to bug us during our weekly meetings if you need help on that specific area | 14:48 |
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| bauzas | markus_z: either triaging, reviewing, or owning | 14:48 |
| markus_z | I've seen teams which "star" some of the reviews to focus attention on them | 14:48 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, I thought that was the way to get attention, is there another technique | 14:48 |
| edleafe | markus_z: and feel free to ping me anytime | 14:48 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: edleafe: Thanks, I'll do that! | 14:49 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I'd rather prefer something more conventional unless urgent queries | 14:49 |
| n0ano | anyway, lxsli you had something | 14:49 |
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| johnthetubaguy | n0ano: its not really changed, just reminding really, good bug triage and adding things in the appropriate bit here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:49 |
| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, got it | 14:49 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, what is changing now is that we assume that we can create bugs | 14:50 |
| edleafe | bauzas: I don't think he needs to wait for a weekly meeting | 14:50 |
| lxsli | n0ano: so I realise scheduler split is long-term but it's becoming increasingly clear we have no agreement on what that means and I think it's helpful to know if you're going east or west | 14:50 |
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| bauzas | oh man, 10 mins for that ? | 14:50 |
| lxsli | n0ano: IE are we aiming for a holistic (pan-OpenStack) scheduler? | 14:50 |
| edleafe | bauzas: hehe | 14:50 |
| lxsli | think fast | 14:50 |
| bauzas | should I rage-quit ? :) | 14:51 |
| lxsli | show of hands? yes or no | 14:51 |
| n0ano | lxsli, let's table this until next week, we don't have time and we really need jay online for this | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: I was trying to write things up here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192260/ | 14:51 |
| lxsli | johnthetubaguy: yeah I put a few comments | 14:51 |
| bauzas | are we putting a ballot on what we think on the Scheduler future ? sounds very Greek to me | 14:52 |
| lxsli | bauzas put a few more | 14:52 |
| bauzas | I thought we had an agreement :) | 14:52 |
| lxsli | not binding, just to get an idea where we are | 14:52 |
| bauzas | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/060179.html | 14:52 |
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| edleafe | lxsli: and I'll be writing up my ideas on changing the scheduler design | 14:53 |
| bauzas | what we target mid-term is possibly a scheduler split - but not yet agreed on that | 14:53 |
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| lxsli | yeah we can clean up interfaces but at some point we need to agree on holistic or not | 14:53 |
| bauzas | what we would certainly target mid-term is some way to schedule an instance based on non-nova affinity | 14:53 |
| lxsli | you may have had that discussion previously and all agreed, but it certainly doesn't seem like it | 14:53 |
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| bauzas | what we haven't yet discussed is long-term, ie. a new project for scheduling more than just a VM | 14:54 |
| bauzas | I certainly didn't signed-off for Gantt now | 14:54 |
| edleafe | lxsli: the only thing we really agreed on is that the split would not drive the work; cleaning up the interfaces would | 14:54 |
| edleafe | lxsli: the split may then happen, or it may not | 14:54 |
| bauzas | edleafe: exactly | 14:54 |
| n0ano | guys, no time, let's discuss this later | 14:54 |
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| lxsli | OK well that was helpful to me at least | 14:55 |
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| n0ano | OK, I need some time to prepare for my next meeting (not looking foward to that one) | 14:56 |
| bauzas | what I want to stress on is the paradigm of booting an instance | 14:56 |
| bauzas | if booting an instance, that sounds very Nova to me | 14:56 |
| lxsli | I'd say making a claim is the key to a resource-allocator API | 14:56 |
| lxsli | after that, use it or not it's all the same | 14:56 |
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| n0ano | gotta go, tnx everyone, we'll talk next week (if not before) | 14:57 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
| bauzas | sure | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 14:57:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| bauzas | ++ | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.07.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.07.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-07-27-14.07.log.html | 14:57 |
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| edleafe | lxsli: I think that keeping scenarios other than 'booting an instance' in mind is critical, but we still have to handle 'booting an instance' well | 14:58 |
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| lxsli | edleafe: we should continue this in #nova, but I don't see what's so special about instances | 14:59 |
| lxsli | they're bundles of resources | 14:59 |
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| edleafe | lxsli: true | 15:00 |
| edleafe | but we aren't starting from scratch | 15:00 |
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| bauzas | lxsli: that's just all about being part of Nova or not :) | 15:01 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: hey, just logged in a short while ago. | 15:10 |
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| dims | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 16:00 |
| ihrachyshka | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 16:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| viktors | o/ | 16:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:00 |
| kragniz | o/ | 16:00 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:00 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 16:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | yo yo | 16:01 |
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| dims | #topic actions from last week | 16:02 |
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| dims | i have to find a good time for virtual sprint for documentation | 16:02 |
| dims | google hangout is acceptable? | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | whats google, lol | 16:02 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 16:03 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: they won't let u use google stuff? :) | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-P | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | nah, google hangout is fine | 16:03 |
| rpodolyaka1 | +1 | 16:03 |
| dims | i'll send out a doodle poll to gauge interest | 16:03 |
| dims | and time | 16:03 |
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| dims | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:04 |
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| bknudson | no red flags for keystone | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | o/ Here now. | 16:04 |
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| ihrachyshka | nothing from neutron, though I'm dug under other stuff so can be out of sync | 16:04 |
| johnsom | We had some folks that had a problem with the python version strings in the requirements file | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | No red flags from Cinder. | 16:05 |
| dims | johnsom: i think there was a pbr relesae | 16:05 |
| johnsom | Not sure which package they needed. | 16:05 |
| dims | release | 16:05 |
| bknudson | looks like oslo.cache will have python3 support, so that's good. | 16:05 |
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| kragniz | nothing's up in glanceland | 16:05 |
| dims | bknudson: yes, python-memcached version got released over weeked (i had email the maintainer) | 16:05 |
| dims | oh, websockify release as well | 16:06 |
| bknudson | needs a reqs bump then | 16:06 |
| dims | bknudson: already filed for both | 16:06 |
| dims | got merged too | 16:06 |
| bknudson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205851/ -- reqs update ? | 16:07 |
| dims | right | 16:07 |
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| dims | dhellmann: can you please bless that one? | 16:07 |
| * dhellmann clicks | 16:07 | |
| dims | thanks | 16:07 |
| dims | #topic Releases for this week | 16:08 |
| dims | Releases for this week. Here are the unreleased changes | 16:08 |
| dims | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases | 16:08 |
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| dhellmann | dims, bknudson : approved | 16:08 |
| dims | thanks dhellmann~ | 16:08 |
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| dims | anyone spot anything fishy which may affect the L2 timeline in the releases for this week? | 16:09 |
| dims | please holler | 16:09 |
| rpodolyaka1 | dims: can we add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205646/ to oslo.db release? | 16:09 |
| rpodolyaka1 | nothing critical, just nice to have | 16:10 |
| dims | rpodolyaka1: will have to wait till next week | 16:10 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | dims: ok, np | 16:10 |
| * harlowja_at_home doesn't see to many fish | 16:10 | |
| dims | rpodolyaka1: i run the master of all the oslo projects against a handful of projects on sun night / mon morning and the SHA's are from there - https://travis-ci.org/dims/glance | 16:10 |
| dims | rpodolyaka1: so if we need something, we should try to merge it by friday | 16:11 |
| dims | or sat | 16:11 |
| rpodolyaka1 | dims: cool! thank you for clarifications! | 16:11 |
| dims | hope the timeline helps in planning | 16:11 |
| rpodolyaka1 | it does! | 16:11 |
| viktors | dims: cool stuff ) | 16:12 |
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| dims | so next week will be big bang release of all projects since many have been accumulating global requirements syncs and not much code changes | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:12 |
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| harlowja_at_home | more big bang for the buck | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | (or whatever that statement is) | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:13 |
| dims | :) | 16:13 |
| dims | #topic oslo.privsep project spec | 16:13 |
| dims | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204073 | 16:13 |
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| harlowja_at_home | uh ohes, lol, angus around? | 16:14 |
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| dims | there's been a bunch of discussion and revisions to that spec, just want to be sure folks get a look at it and provide feedback | 16:14 |
| bknudson | rootwrap is in oslo already? | 16:14 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: 2 AM his time | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, ah, k | 16:14 |
| dims | bknudson: oslo.rootwrap...yes | 16:14 |
| dims | so please take a look and let's get Angus going | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | +1 | 16:15 |
| bknudson | so this is phasing out rootwrap | 16:15 |
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| bknudson | hopefully developers won't abuse it the same way they abused rootwrap | 16:16 |
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| bknudson | since developers just do whatever's convenient | 16:16 |
| dims | bknudson: don't know yet. please tell other keystone folks to look as well | 16:17 |
| bknudson | keystone doesn't use rootwrap | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol, i have a feeling all the things will get abused, but as long as u try to provide good examples and such of not abusing it, and peer reviews, then not much else u can do, there will always be abusers :-P | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | ^ wise words of wisdom, ha | 16:17 |
| dims | bknudson: i know, you all are the closest to security stuff :) | 16:17 |
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| bknudson | there's an OSSG (security group) | 16:17 |
| bknudson | I'll bring it up a the meeting | 16:18 |
| dims | bknudson: awesome thanks | 16:18 |
| bknudson | since we discussed this at the last meeup | 16:18 |
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| dims | cool. switching topics | 16:18 |
| dims | #topic New libraries and drivers - how is it going? | 16:18 |
| dims | #link specs - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ | 16:18 |
| dims | #link library audit - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E/edit#gid=0 | 16:18 |
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| ozamiatin | dims: we had some progress with rpc functional tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205117 | 16:18 |
| ozamiatin | dims: notifier and devstack next | 16:19 |
| dims | ozamiatin: very cool | 16:19 |
| dims | hoping we will get more folks to kick tires when we get devstack going | 16:19 |
| kgiusti | dims: patches available for kerberos and python3 support WIP until proton 0.10 is released | 16:19 |
| dims | kgiusti: ah. any ETA? | 16:20 |
| kgiusti | dims: proton 0.10 in beta now - two blockers outstanding. | 16:20 |
| dims | sounds close. thanks kgiusti | 16:20 |
| kgiusti | dims: no 'hard' eta - just pending those blockers. | 16:21 |
| dims | right | 16:21 |
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| dims | there's a patch in nova for oslo.cache too | 16:22 |
| dims | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:22 |
| dims | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-priorities-tracking | 16:22 |
| dims | Any stuck reviews? or specs? | 16:22 |
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| harlowja_at_home | it'd be nice to have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196338/ in before doing a debtcollector release dims | 16:23 |
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| harlowja_at_home | if anyone else wants to look over that | 16:23 |
| * harlowja_at_home added note in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases | 16:23 | |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: the keystone folks mentioned that debtcollector was not working for them in some scenarios..recall anything? | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | hmmm, don't recall that | 16:25 |
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| bknudson | I was looking to use it in keystoneclient since a bunch of stuff wasn't deprecated correctly | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | any idea what wasn't working? | 16:25 |
| bknudson | and most scenarios it didn't apply or I couldn't find documentation that showed that it worked. | 16:25 |
| bknudson | I can put together a list if you'd like | 16:26 |
| bknudson | the reviews will show what I wanted to deprecate | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | ok | 16:26 |
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| dims | bknudson: thanks! lets work it as a bug | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | ' couldn't find documentation that showed that it worked' means more docs or something? | 16:26 |
| bknudson | ok, I'll open bug | 16:26 |
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| dims | so in the nova mid-cycle this came up - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205779/ - TRACE logging level | 16:26 |
| bknudson | docs might be required or maybe the code needs to be updated so that it works. | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, ok | 16:26 |
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| bknudson | I don't know if the library supports it since I was looking at the docs | 16:27 |
| dims | this was a recommendation from the log WG i believe | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, okie dokie | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, +1 | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | although, TRACE = int((logging.DEBUG + logging.NOTSET) / 2) lol | 16:27 |
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| harlowja_at_home | TRACE = 5 imho better, ha | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | sputnik13, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205779/ - TRACE logging level | 16:28 |
| bknudson | did they ever get rid of logging stacktraces at TRACE? | 16:28 |
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| dims | did not know how static they were...frozen forever? | 16:28 |
| bknudson | I thought that was the first step | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, pretty sure frozen forever | 16:28 |
| dims | bknudson: yes, i already did | 16:28 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: ack | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, https://github.com/openstack/taskflow/blob/master/taskflow/logging.py#L24 if u want other usages of it | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | for reference purposes, others use 5 to | 16:29 |
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| dims | thanks | 16:29 |
| dims | #topic Open discussion | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Sheesh. I thought they were joking about it being halfway between the two levels but they actually do the math. | 16:29 |
| dims | jungleboyj: that was me...not them :) | 16:30 |
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| jungleboyj | dims: Ok. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:30 |
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| dims | anything else to discuss? | 16:31 |
| kragniz | so in glance, we were talking a little about having an oslo.rbd library | 16:32 |
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| dims | common code between cinder + glance? | 16:32 |
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| mfedosin | yep | 16:32 |
| kragniz | yeah | 16:32 |
| dims | anyone else likely to use? | 16:33 |
| kragniz | is this something people from cinder would be interested in? | 16:33 |
| dims | jungleboyj: ^^ | 16:34 |
| mfedosin | I think we should ask e0ne | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne would be good to ask. | 16:34 |
| kragniz | okay | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | kragniz: What code would you be moving there? | 16:34 |
| dims | kragniz: glance_rbd (like glance_store) is not a possibility? | 16:35 |
| dims | you can always have the ACL with the right set of folks from both glance and cinder | 16:35 |
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| kragniz | jungleboyj: mostly the connection stuff and helper functions | 16:36 |
| mfedosin | I pinged e0ne, but his is afk | 16:37 |
| kragniz | jungleboyj: no real plan, someone just mentioned it and we thought it could be something others would be interested in | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | kragniz: Are you familiar with os.brick? | 16:37 |
| kragniz | jungleboyj: a little, it's sort of what glance_store tries to be but for cinder? | 16:38 |
| mfedosin | originally it was sigmavirus24 idea | 16:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | heh, well I had heard the words "borrowing from cinder" so | 16:38 |
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| jungleboyj | kragniz: Not sure about glance_store but it is where we have all the functions that need to be shared between nova and cinder. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | I would want to maybe look and see if that is something that could be used before starting another library. That would be my $0.02 there. | 16:39 |
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| kragniz | okay, we should have a look | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | Otherwise, I am all about reducing code duplication. :-) | 16:40 |
| dims | ++ to check before starting a new one | 16:40 |
| dims | so let's wrap up this meeting then | 16:40 |
| dims | thanks everyone | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | kragniz: https://github.com/openstack/os-brick | 16:40 |
| kragniz | thanks | 16:40 |
| kragniz | jungleboyj: thanks | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | kragniz: Let me know if you want to talka bout it more. | 16:41 |
| kragniz | will do | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | dims: Thanks! | 16:41 |
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| dims | see you all next week | 16:41 |
| dims | #endmeeting | 16:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 16:41:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-07-27-16.00.html | 16:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-07-27-16.00.txt | 16:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-07-27-16.00.log.html | 16:41 |
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| catherineD|2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 19:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 19:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| catherineD|2 | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-07-27 | 19:01 |
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| catherineD|2 | Roll call | 19:01 |
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| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:02 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge:is traveling so won't attend today ... | 19:02 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:02 |
| catherineD|2 | Let's start ... | 19:02 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Tokyo Refstack sessions ... | 19:03 |
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| catherineD|2 | #link please vote for Refstack session: https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/5256 | 19:03 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD|2 Can you please share agenda link? | 19:03 |
| catherineD|2 | #link agenda link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-07-27 | 19:04 |
| sslypushenko__ | thx) | 19:04 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: np | 19:04 |
| catherineD|2 | I think deadline is this Friday for voting | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko__ | I have already voted. Lets cross fingers) | 19:06 |
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| pvaneck | catherine, add a picture for your speaker profile | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | We have asked Chris to see if it is possible to schedule a room for Refstack design meeting at Tokyo. but I do not think this is important ... | 19:07 |
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| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: thx for reminder ..sslypushenko__: davidlenwell: you update your bio? | 19:07 |
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| sslypushenko__ | oh! thx for reminder! | 19:08 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 19:08 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: will Mirantis let you travel if the session is accepted? | 19:08 |
| sslypushenko__ | I hope, so) | 19:08 |
| catherineD|2 | we hope so too ... everyone asks your friends and co-workers to vote for us OK? :-) | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | ok moving on .. | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko__ | Usually our company supports session speakers | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Relocate RefStack Project | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Relocate RefStack Project (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:09 | |
| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: could you take a look at the comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205609/ | 19:10 |
| catherineD|2 | at least Andreas Jaeger 's and Thierry Carrez's feed back that Refstack should not be relocated to openstack-infra ... | 19:10 |
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| davidlenwell | I'll take a look | 19:11 |
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| catherineD|2 | I know that we voted for moving to infra ... but other people do not think so ... | 19:11 |
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| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: you have discussed with Jim Blair right? | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | we can take their input into account | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | catherineD|2: yes I did | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: I think so | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | he doesn't object.. | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | let me make some comments on that | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: please do ... Thanks! | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | we need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205609/ approved ....before working on the actual move patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205777/ | 19:13 |
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| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: we will wait for feedbacks after your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205609 | 19:15 |
| davidlenwell | okay | 19:15 |
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| catherineD|2 | any other input before we move on .. | 19:15 |
| davidlenwell | no[ | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko__ | move on | 19:15 |
| catherineD|2 | #action Infra Hosting | 19:15 |
| catherineD|2 | we are stuck witth https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ ... it failed Jenkin ... don't know how to fix it ... | 19:17 |
| catherineD|2 | who can help? | 19:18 |
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| sslypushenko__ | We need puppet guru help) | 19:19 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: davidlenwell: do you know any one ? | 19:20 |
| pvaneck | not sure why it is failing specifically on the trusty job | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko__ | Unfortunately, no | 19:20 |
| catherineD|2 | fungi: could you please help with the Jenkin failure in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/... | 19:20 |
| davidlenwell | crinkle and nibalizer in #openstack-infra are both awesome with the puppet | 19:20 |
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| catherineD|2 | I guess we will need to voice for help in openstack-infra IRC ... | 19:21 |
| davidlenwell | yeah .. its a good idea | 19:22 |
| catherineD|2 | that is where we stuck at ... without this patch I don't think we can get any where ... | 19:22 |
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| catherineD|2 | #topic Pending reviews | 19:22 |
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| catherineD|2 | the Refstack patches are all failed for unit tests ... .Paul's fix just merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205929/ ... I guess we all need to rebase our patches | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko__ | Sure thing | 19:25 |
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| catherineD|2 | Not much discussion here ... until after rebase | 19:25 |
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| pvaneck | i will address comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191610/9 , which is the schema versioning stuff | 19:25 |
| pvaneck | hopefully we can get this merged before the defcore f2f | 19:25 |
| pvaneck | since i think thats when they will be releasing the new capabilities | 19:26 |
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| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: I know that DefCore will change schema often .. susceptible are we with their changes? | 19:26 |
| pvaneck | as long as big changes get new versions, we should be fine | 19:27 |
| pvaneck | as we seem to get a long runway before a new version is released | 19:27 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: that is good | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko__ | +1 current solution looks fine to meet new schema changes | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | Refstack is a discussion topic on Wednesday DefCore f2f mid-cycle meeting | 19:28 |
| pvaneck | so board of directors meeting is tomorrow right? | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204742/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191610/ merged ... so we can show DefCore what we have for their feedback | 19:28 |
| pvaneck | should be able to by wednesday | 19:29 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: I think so ... hogepodge: is traveling for the meeting .. hogepodge: mentioned about Refstack demo to board sometime ago .. | 19:29 |
| catherineD|2 | He may demo to them tomorrow ... | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | let's get it done by tomorrow if we can ... | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: thx for reminder about board meeting .... I was only thinking about DefCore meeting /... | 19:30 |
| catherineD|2 | I have tested both patches ... | 19:31 |
| catherineD|2 | so please let rebase ... | 19:31 |
| catherineD|2 | anuthing else on this topic ? | 19:31 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Open discussion | 19:32 |
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| pvaneck | I will focus on getting these patches fixed up | 19:32 |
| catherineD|2 | I will be at the DefCore f2f meeting .... | 19:32 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: thx .. | 19:33 |
| fungi | catherineD|2: i'm not around at the moment, but hogepodge said he was going to help with that patch | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko__ | Hmm... how we can show new schema handling without new schema? | 19:33 |
| catherineD|2 | fungi: thx ... I know ... | 19:33 |
| fungi | https://review.openstack.org/198869 specifically | 19:33 |
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| pvaneck | sslypushenko__: do you mean testing that the handling works with the new schema? | 19:35 |
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| sslypushenko__ | only 2015.next.json contains new schema, refstack don't show it | 19:35 |
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| pvaneck | what i have been doing was adding <option value="2015.next.json">2015.next</option> for testing purposes | 19:35 |
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| pvaneck | once it turns to 2015.07.json, the new schema will be available on refstack.net | 19:36 |
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| sslypushenko__ | sure, but it hasn't released yet. | 19:37 |
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| sslypushenko__ | So there is no hurry here, I think | 19:37 |
| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: we start to get some bug report and ask question on launchpad ... could you add sslypushenko__: pvaneck: and me as supervisor so we get notify on activites .. | 19:38 |
| davidlenwell | sure | 19:38 |
| pvaneck | I'm expecting it to be released in the next few days based on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203474/ | 19:39 |
| catherineD|2 | pvaneck: thx... | 19:39 |
| pvaneck | so it would be good for refstack.net to be able to immediately handle it whenever that merges | 19:39 |
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| catherineD|2 | yup ... so let focus on merging pvaneck: 's 2 patches .. | 19:40 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I think both of them are good enought) | 19:40 |
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| catherineD|2 | yea just the unit tests failure were gating on us ... | 19:41 |
| pvaneck | i can easily address your inline comments, sergey, working on that now | 19:41 |
| pvaneck | can do grouping in a later patch | 19:42 |
| sslypushenko__ | thx) everything else LGTM | 19:42 |
| sslypushenko__ | Lets left gourppinh | 19:42 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: that was a good comment ... and should be implemented ...now or later .. | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko__ | *grouping for future work | 19:43 |
| catherineD|2 | anything else? | 19:43 |
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| catherineD|2 | if not this will be the first time that we end the meeting early ... | 19:45 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD|2 Refstack UI defenately needs some care to improve UX ) | 19:45 |
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| catherineD|2 | agree ... on the results tab? | 19:46 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD|2 Can ask you to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200486/ | 19:46 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: for sure ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200486/ | 19:46 |
| sslypushenko__ | We need to push it forward | 19:47 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: will take a look ... sometime it takes me sometime to review because I really spend time reading and testing the code if possible ,,,, expecially tempest (a lot to learn) | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | All our refstack-related work on tempest depends on it | 19:48 |
| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: will review ... | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | Thx) | 19:48 |
| catherineD|2 | anything else? | 19:49 |
| sslypushenko__ | Did look on subunit2sql? | 19:49 |
| catherineD|2 | yes ... but I have not see away to use it at the refstck-client side | 19:49 |
| catherineD|2 | even the API ... | 19:50 |
| catherineD|2 | even at the API level .. | 19:50 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I have same opinion | 19:50 |
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| catherineD|2 | unless we want to send the subunit file to the server side ... | 19:50 |
| catherineD|2 | it is not very useful for ... | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko__ | There a lot of useful code here | 19:51 |
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| sslypushenko__ | but our goals a preety differs | 19:51 |
| catherineD|2 | yes a lot of useful code expecially if the database is there at the client side ... | 19:52 |
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| sslypushenko__ | If subunit2sql supports sqlite it will be really useful thing | 19:53 |
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| catherineD|2 | the issue is we only wan to send pass test ... that is why the subunit processing should be done at the client side | 19:53 |
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| catherineD|2 | sslypushenko__: ic .. then we will have a simple db just for subunit processing ... | 19:53 |
| catherineD|2 | the goal is refstack-client should be as simple as possible ... | 19:54 |
| catherineD|2 | to enable people to test ... | 19:54 |
| sslypushenko__ | fully agreed | 19:54 |
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| catherineD|2 | in the future refstack-client may need to support other test suite ... so it will be more complicate ... but we should try to keep it as simple as possible | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko__ | I have already talked to Chris that we should drop idea to identify cloud by cpid | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko__ | Because it is to complicated in general | 19:56 |
| catherineD|2 | then what do we use to identify Cloud? | 19:56 |
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| catherineD|2 | reliablely identify a cloud? | 19:56 |
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| sslypushenko__ | We should trust user in this point | 19:56 |
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| catherineD|2 | so user will input a cloud id? | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko__ | There is no other working way for the time beening | 19:57 |
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| catherineD|2 | or we should ask user to input there cloud keystone id? | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko__ | User could input some tag | 19:57 |
| davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: ++ | 19:57 |
| catherineD|2 | yes because to get keystone id we need admin credential .. | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko__ | cloud specific tag | 19:58 |
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| catherineD|2 | what would be the format of the tad .. or do we care to define the tag format ? | 19:58 |
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| igueths | o/ | 19:58 |
| catherineD|2 | tad --> tag | 19:58 |
| sslypushenko__ | Lately we can implement some non admin endpoint in keystone for cloud indetification | 19:58 |
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| catherineD|2 | igueths: we are still in #restack meeting ... | 19:59 |
| sslypushenko__ | Let move discussion in refstack channel | 19:59 |
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| catherineD|2 | we should end soon let's discuss on #refstack ... | 19:59 |
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| catherineD|2 | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 19:59:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-07-27-19.00.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-07-27-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-07-27-19.00.log.html | 19:59 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 20:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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| chellygel | ٩(｡•ω•｡)و | 20:00 |
| jaosorior | o/ | 20:00 |
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| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:00 |
| igueths | o/ | 20:00 |
| elmiko | heyo/ | 20:00 |
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| kfarr | o/ | 20:00 |
| silos | o/ | 20:00 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 20:00 |
| alee | o/ | 20:00 |
| jkf | Greetings | 20:00 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:00 |
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| redrobot | chellygel always has the Ctrl+V ready to go :D | 20:00 |
| elmiko | seriously... | 20:01 |
| rellerreller | o/ | 20:01 |
| * elmiko is impressed | 20:01 | |
| chellygel | cmd+v ;) | 20:01 |
| redrobot | Woot! Lots of barbicaneers here today. | 20:01 |
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| redrobot | Sorry if I'm a little out of it today guys... I was at OSCON last week, and I'm still trying to catch up on everything... | 20:01 |
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| redrobot | Let's get this party started | 20:02 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items from previous meeting | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-20-20.00.html | 20:02 |
| redrobot | which it looks like there was none | 20:02 |
| redrobot | but I do remember one action item from last last meeting | 20:03 |
| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-13-20.01.html | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | jaosorior to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo | 20:03 |
| redrobot | jaosorior any updates on that? | 20:03 |
| jaosorior | yeah, the backport is on-going | 20:03 |
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| jaosorior | BUT, the tests in stable/kilo fail | 20:03 |
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| jaosorior | for reasons unrelated to the backporting | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | ugh, lame | 20:03 |
| jaosorior | which is the reason that I asked redrobot for help | 20:04 |
| redrobot | ok, so we should sort out the failures first | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot and jaosorior to fix the stable/kilo gate failures | 20:04 |
| jaosorior | This is the first commit in the backport series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205059/ | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | and i'll punt on the other one to next week | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | #action jaosorior to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | and now that I think about it, I had promised kfarr a Castellan release, and then totally dropped the ball | 20:05 |
| * redrobot would make a good politician | 20:05 | |
| kfarr | it's ok redrobot :) | 20:05 |
| redrobot | but it seems there's a lot of patches pending.... do we want to release now, or wait until we go through the current Castellan patch queue? | 20:05 |
| elmiko | i have a question, or two, about castellan releases. maybe we could circle back around later? | 20:05 |
| redrobot | ok, I'll add it to the agenda | 20:06 |
| redrobot | which can be found here: | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:06 |
| redrobot | ok, let's move on to the agenda topics for today | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | #topic Blueprint Deadline this Friday | 20:06 |
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| arunkant | 0o/ | 20:07 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 20:07 |
| redrobot | Liberty Milestone 2 is due this week | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I'm sure the release managers would like to cut it tomorrow, but I may be able to push until Thursday if there's stuff in the queue that we want to land before then. | 20:07 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to do some Launchpad grooming for Liberty-2 | 20:07 |
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| redrobot | which means that this week is the deadline for Liberty milestones | 20:08 |
| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/barbican-specs,n,z | 20:08 |
| redrobot | we still have a lot of pending specs | 20:08 |
| redrobot | most of them have -1 votes on them | 20:08 |
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| redrobot | Any questions/comments about the next milestone, or the Blueprint freeze? | 20:10 |
| silos | If we don't get a bp approved by Thursday is it gone forever? | 20:10 |
| redrobot | silos nope, you have to re-submit for M | 20:10 |
| redrobot | silos just won't land on Liberty | 20:11 |
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| silos | ok. understood. | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | I'll probably be pinging people for reviews throughout the week. | 20:11 |
| redrobot | Both for spec reviews, and also to get status updates on approved specs | 20:12 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:12 |
| redrobot | #topic Barbican Mid-Cycle | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | I just noticed we're listed on this fancy new events page: | 20:13 |
| redrobot | #link https://www.openstack.org/community/events/#mid-cycle_sprints | 20:13 |
| redrobot | hopefully everyone has booked flights/hotels etc | 20:13 |
| redrobot | but if you still need the details, you can find them here: | 20:13 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BarbicanLibertySprint | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | looking forward to visiting JHU next week :) | 20:14 |
| rellerreller | woot! | 20:14 |
| redrobot | any questions/comments about the mid-cycle? | 20:14 |
| rellerreller | What do I need to do? | 20:14 |
| rellerreller | You can let me know offline, but I want to make sure I have everything ready. | 20:14 |
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| rellerreller | I figure seating and some food, but did not know if I need to do anything else. | 20:15 |
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| kfarr | Projector? The rooms should already have those | 20:15 |
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| dave-mccowan | are there instructions somewhere about where to go and how to check in once we get to the address? not sure if there will be guards and gates, etc. | 20:16 |
| woodster_ | rellerreller: do you need a final list of folks going for your security folks? | 20:16 |
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| rellerreller | So we will be outside the perimeter, so no need to checkin or anything. | 20:16 |
| rellerreller | We have a night school center where people can earn masters degrees. We will be in there. | 20:16 |
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| kfarr | Here: http://www.jhuapl.edu/ourwork/facilities/kossiakoff.asp | 20:17 |
| woodster_ | rellerreller: ha, I'd never seen that link before...I see the eventbrite registration | 20:17 |
| rellerreller | We can post a map and other instructions on etherpad. Is one setup? | 20:17 |
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| kfarr | We should put this link on the etherpad, it's got a map for parking: https://ep.jhu.edu/about-us/locations/applied-physics-laboratory | 20:17 |
| dave-mccowan | is there a room number? | 20:18 |
| redrobot | rellerreller yep, let me get the link | 20:18 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-liberty-midcycle | 20:18 |
| rellerreller | kfarr let's get some cardboard signs and hang them up! | 20:18 |
| kfarr | rellerreller Yeah! | 20:18 |
| rellerreller | dave-mccowan we will post signs and let you know where to go. | 20:19 |
| elmiko | balloons? | 20:19 |
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| woodster_ | who's bringing licorice liquor? | 20:19 |
| rellerreller | elmiko that would be awesome. We can have them drop from the ceiling when you enter. | 20:19 |
| elmiko | rellerreller: haha, now i wish i could attend | 20:20 |
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| rellerreller | woodster_ that brings up a good point. We have a pretty strict no alcohol policy :( | 20:20 |
| redrobot | womp womp... | 20:20 |
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| elmiko | lol | 20:20 |
| rellerreller | I was reminded by my superiors about that today :( | 20:21 |
| jaosorior | well, I can't make it to this mid-cycle :/ | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | but maybe we'll be extra productive without the Finnish liquor | 20:21 |
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| jvrbanac | jaosorior, :( | 20:21 |
| jaosorior | so your livers will take it easy... this time O_O | 20:21 |
| woodster_ | well, it's not too late to have the midcycle over here :) | 20:21 |
| jaosorior | or...easier :P | 20:21 |
| redrobot | jaosorior I'll drink extra in your honor | 20:21 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: haha hell yeah | 20:21 |
| woodster_ | midcycle with no Ozz??? | 20:22 |
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| jaosorior | woodster_: unfortunately | 20:23 |
| woodster_ | jaosorior: maybe we can video you in...middle of the night for you, could be scary/entertaining | 20:23 |
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| alee | redrobot, I have to say that the licorice liquor was intrumental in heading off a heated argument about content types and/or castelan certificates -- so we may end up being less productive .. | 20:24 |
| elmiko | haha! | 20:24 |
| alee | woodster_, jaosorior -- and yeah, its Oz's turn as the wizard of Oz .. | 20:24 |
| jaosorior | next time I see you guys, I'll make sure to be well stocked with liquor :P | 20:24 |
| redrobot | alee lol, that's true... but I don't think rm_work is going to make it so we may be safe | 20:24 |
| alee | ie. disembodied green head at the centre of everything .. | 20:25 |
| rm_work | yeah but i will try to call in | 20:26 |
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| rm_work | unless there are.... "network complications" :P | 20:26 |
| redrobot | ok, so, we'll be looking for the cardboard signs once we get on campus... | 20:26 |
| alee | whats that -- I thougt I heard rm_work say something .. oh well, must be a glitch .. | 20:26 |
| redrobot | we'll have another chance for an update next week before everyone flies out. | 20:26 |
| redrobot | moving on... | 20:27 |
| woodster_ | ha! | 20:27 |
| redrobot | #topic V2 and Orders | 20:27 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac you have the floor | 20:27 |
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| jvrbanac | So I don't really want discuss V2 and Orders today, but rather I just wanted to get people to start thinking about it. During the midcycle I want have a discussion about a v2 api and talk through some ideas I have around it. I know a bunch of us probably won't make it to Tokyo, so I would like to use the midcycle for some face-to-face time on this subject. Again, not really a subject for today, but something to | 20:27 |
| jvrbanac | start thinking about. | 20:27 |
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| rellerreller | jvrbanac what kinds of things are you thinking about? | 20:28 |
| rellerreller | New types of orders? Is there an etherpad page? | 20:28 |
| redrobot | Yeah... definitely want to take time to think through the pain points in V1, so we can fix a lot of them in a future V2 | 20:29 |
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| jvrbanac | rellerreller, not really. I have a bunch of ideas that have come out of trying to deploy barbican. It would really go way past the time in the meeting | 20:29 |
| redrobot | rellerreller first thing that comes to mind for me is renaming "payload_content_encoding" to "transport_encoding" | 20:29 |
| jvrbanac | rellerreller, hense why I wanted to bring this up during the mid-cycle | 20:29 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac agreed... lots of room for bikeshedding :) | 20:30 |
| redrobot | it would also be good to start adding link sections to our responses | 20:30 |
| fnaval | 2015-07-27 15:29:00,083: INFO: root: MIGRATION DOWNTIME VALUES: last_success_old_host=1438028825.27, first_failure=1438028826.23, last_failure=1438028940.07, first_success_new_host=1438028826.55, DOWNTIME<=1.28269696236s | 20:30 |
| fnaval | typo | 20:30 |
| redrobot | { ... "links" { "self": "http://reference_to_myslef" } } ... etc | 20:31 |
| alee | jvrbanac, redrobot sounds like a design page/ etherpad needed to collect all these ideas .. | 20:31 |
| jvrbanac | Yeah, I have a bunch of ideas around this subject, but I also want to hear from other folks on the pains they've had using barbican in a prod type setting | 20:31 |
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| elmiko | probably want to consider microversions for a next gen api as well | 20:32 |
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| jvrbanac | elmiko, is that something other projects are adopting? | 20:33 |
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| elmiko | jvrbanac: starting to, i'm not sure how widespread it is but i am pushing this for sahara v2, and i think nova is moving forward with it as well | 20:33 |
| redrobot | jvrbanac yeah, nova is using microversions now | 20:34 |
| elmiko | i also saw neutron discussing this as well | 20:34 |
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| jvrbanac | interesting ok. | 20:34 |
| elmiko | i think it really depends on how much the team expects to iterate on the api, it's really nice when you want to add many changes, some of which might not be backward compat. | 20:35 |
| jvrbanac | Sounds like a good discussion to have | 20:36 |
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| jvrbanac | redrobot, that's all I had that agenda item. Just something for people to think about and bring to the midcycle | 20:37 |
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| jvrbanac | ^bring ideas to the midcycle | 20:37 |
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| jvrbanac | redrobot, did you die? | 20:38 |
| redrobot | jvrbanac lol, not yet | 20:39 |
| redrobot | ok moving on | 20:39 |
| redrobot | #topic stable/kilo tests are failing | 20:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable/kilo tests are failing (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:39 | |
| redrobot | jaosorior you want to talk about this some more? | 20:39 |
| jaosorior | Nah, just to raise awareness for people | 20:39 |
| redrobot | jaosorior cool | 20:40 |
| jaosorior | I didn't expect it to get mentioned int he beginning of the meeting. So yeah, that one's done | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | we did add the action item earlier in the meeting, so we'll be looking into that. | 20:40 |
| redrobot | ok moving on | 20:40 |
| redrobot | #topic Barbican Openstack CLI plugin | 20:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Barbican Openstack CLI plugin (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:40 | |
| redrobot | jaosorior also yours | 20:40 |
| jaosorior | yup | 20:41 |
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| jaosorior | the CR is up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198732/ | 20:41 |
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| jaosorior | At the moment the plugin has some limitations | 20:42 |
| redrobot | jaosorior Haven't really dug into it, but what's the deal with the command names? | 20:42 |
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| redrobot | would it make sense for them to be key-manager like the Governance repo change? | 20:42 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: Well, I also intended there to be some discussion around those | 20:42 |
| jaosorior | thing is, "container create" and such is taken | 20:42 |
| jaosorior | and on the other hand, doing "orders" and operations with containers doesn't really make sense in the context of the openstack CLI | 20:43 |
| jaosorior | so I intended that tto be more explicit by renaming it to something such as "secret order [create|delete...]" | 20:43 |
| redrobot | hmm... would the secret abstractions make sense, you think? | 20:44 |
| redrobot | or maybe something that is more akin to using openssl on the command linke | 20:44 |
| redrobot | *line | 20:44 |
| jaosorior | we also talked with the openstack-sdks fellows about the naming, and the discussion went around, using the project name prepended to the commands is not ideal | 20:44 |
| redrobot | openstack key-gen rsa 2048 | 20:44 |
| jaosorior | well, if there are better suggestions, lets add them to that CR | 20:45 |
| jaosorior | some people were ok with prepending "secret" to orders and containers, but if there are better ideas, they are very welcome | 20:46 |
| redrobot | how closely does the CLI follow the other project abstractions, I wonder? | 20:46 |
| jaosorior | what do you mean? | 20:46 |
| redrobot | like, is there a 1:1 mapping of API resource to CLI command? | 20:47 |
| alee | jaosorior, whats the suggestion for things like certificate orders? not sure we would want "secret order ..." in this case. | 20:47 |
| redrobot | or can we approach this from a "what would a CLI user want to do" point of view? | 20:47 |
| elmiko | i think it's good to approach from the use-case point of view | 20:47 |
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| jaosorior | redrobot: IMO I would rather have it as "what would a CLI user want to do" | 20:47 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: this is what exists at the moment http://pastebin.com/WWTmLa9w | 20:48 |
| rm_work | ^^ that list does not include non-core projects like congress though, right? | 20:49 |
| rm_work | which do things ... differently? | 20:49 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: that is handled as plugins | 20:49 |
| rm_work | this discussion was last week, way outside of my short-term memory :P | 20:49 |
| jaosorior | so to enable a plugin you basically do a normal installation | 20:49 |
| jaosorior | python setup.py install | 20:49 |
| redrobot | the existing container is for Swift containers? | 20:49 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: right, but as far as current usage examples | 20:49 |
| jaosorior | and it is handled by the entrypoints that you set up in setup.cfg | 20:49 |
| rm_work | and how other projects did their naming | 20:49 |
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| rm_work | IIRC one of their examples was "look how congress did their naming" | 20:50 |
| jaosorior | redrobot, rm_work: By the way, that list has the barbican operations with the dash... because I had that installed in that virtual environment. The current CR doesn't have that dash | 20:50 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: if you remember the conversation we had with the openstack-sdks folks, adding the project name before the commands was not very recommended, and we figured it wouldn't really be that appropriate usability wise | 20:51 |
| elmiko | might we talk about castellan breifly, since we are short on time? | 20:51 |
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| jaosorior | alee: currently you have to add --request type if you would do a secret order create | 20:51 |
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| alee | jaosorior, huh ? so its "secret container create" instead of "secret-container create" ? | 20:51 |
| kfarr | elmiko +1 | 20:51 |
| jaosorior | alee: yes | 20:51 |
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| alee | jaosorior, I like secret-container better | 20:51 |
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| jaosorior | alee: It breaks uniformity, that's why I had to switch it back to using spaces | 20:52 |
| redrobot | elmiko yeah, let's move on to castellan | 20:52 |
| jaosorior | we had that discussion with the openstack-sdks folks | 20:52 |
| rm_work | yeah there are consistency issues | 20:52 |
| rm_work | but +1 castellan | 20:52 |
| redrobot | I don't think we're going to figure out the CLI stuff now | 20:52 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:52 |
| redrobot | #topic Castellan | 20:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Castellan (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:52 | |
| jaosorior | alee: But if it has a very different workflow and it would improve usability, we could do a command specifically for certificates, so we wouldn't need be adding all those extra params to the order create | 20:52 |
| kfarr | On a side note about Castellan, there's a bunch of merge requests out there that could use some reviews | 20:53 |
| elmiko | +1 | 20:53 |
| jaosorior | anyway, please give feedback in this CR https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198732/ | 20:53 |
| alee | jaosorior, yes | 20:53 |
| rm_work | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-sdks/%23openstack-sdks.2015-07-23.log.html#t2015-07-23T14:38:59 | 20:53 |
| elmiko | i'm also very curious about the release schedule for castellan | 20:53 |
| rm_work | ^^ discussion with openstack-sdk people | 20:53 |
| woodster_ | I don't see other projects using the dash in that list | 20:53 |
| rm_work | useful to review so we don't go in circles | 20:53 |
| elmiko | there are some features i've been waiting for before we interate with sahara, and i'd like to get them in for L3 so we can move our secrets out of sahara | 20:54 |
| jaosorior | woodster_ No other project is, which is why we switched to using spaces instead of dashes | 20:54 |
| jaosorior | I gotta go, talk to you guys tomorrow | 20:54 |
| redrobot | elmiko release schedule is whenever kfarr or anyone else bugs me for a release :) | 20:54 |
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| elmiko | i'm curious if there will be a castellan release in the L3 timeframe? | 20:54 |
| rm_work | redrobot: we need to merge some stuff first | 20:54 |
| woodster_ | jaosorior: oh got it | 20:54 |
| elmiko | redrobot: ok, awesome. | 20:54 |
| rm_work | there are about 3-4 CRs for Castellan that just need +A | 20:54 |
| elmiko | rm_work: yes please =) | 20:54 |
| redrobot | elmiko the release management team decided not to take ownership of Castellan | 20:54 |
| redrobot | elmiko so I still own the release for that | 20:54 |
| rm_work | and then a few more than need to be double-checked for merge conflicts and also merged | 20:54 |
| elmiko | redrobot: cool, and release means push to pypi as well? | 20:55 |
| rm_work | *that need | 20:55 |
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| redrobot | elmiko yes. it's pretty easy actually. Just use GPG to sign a git tag, and push it to the repo | 20:55 |
| elmiko | i agree with kfarr and rm_work, maybe we could get a review sprint on this week, and talk about release dates sometime soon? | 20:55 |
| redrobot | elmiko automation picks up the tag, verifies it, and then pushes the bundle to PyPI | 20:55 |
| elmiko | redrobot: kickass | 20:55 |
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| redrobot | yeah... we can probably release next week during the mid-cycle | 20:56 |
| elmiko | we should really merge some of these patches first though | 20:56 |
| elmiko | and resolve whatever conflicts arise | 20:56 |
| redrobot | elmiko agreed... I'll spend some time on those today hopefully. | 20:56 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 20:56 |
| kfarr | thanks redrobot! | 20:57 |
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| rm_work | yeah most are ready to go | 20:57 |
| redrobot | ok, that's all we have time for today. See y'all next week, same time, same channel. :) | 20:57 |
| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:57 | |
| elmiko | thanks redrobot | 20:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 20:57:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:57 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-27-20.00.html | 20:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-27-20.00.txt | 20:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-27-20.00.log.html | 20:57 |
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