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| xarses | #startmeeting fuel | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 30 16:00:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xarses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| xarses | #chair xarses | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| xarses | Todays Agenda: | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:01 |
| xarses | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: xarses | 16:01 |
| xarses | Who's here? | 16:01 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 16:01 |
| angdraug | o/ | 16:01 |
| Tatyanka_Leontov | hi | 16:01 |
| amaksimov | hi | 16:01 |
| IvanKliuk | Hello! | 16:01 |
| akislitsky | рш | 16:01 |
| akislitsky | hi | 16:01 |
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| ikalnitsky | o/ | 16:01 |
| vkramskikh | hi | 16:01 |
| xenolog13 | \~/ | 16:01 |
| mihgen | hi | 16:01 |
| xarses | #topic Exceptions and status (xarses) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Exceptions and status (xarses) (Meeting topic: fuel)" | 16:02 | |
| dpyzhov | hi | 16:02 |
| xarses | So I wanted to get an update on the FF's that are done | 16:02 |
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| mattymo_ | hey - sorry I'm late | 16:02 |
| sbog | Hi guys | 16:02 |
| warpc__ | hi! | 16:02 |
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| xarses | FFE for bug/1475759 ceph generators - was split into bug and feature, feature was moved to 8.0 | 16:03 |
| xarses | FF Exception request for Fernet tokens support was declined | 16:03 |
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| xarses | sorry | 16:03 |
| xarses | FFE for bug/1475759 ceph generators is a feature, and moved to 8 | 16:03 |
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| dilyin | hi | 16:04 |
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| xarses | FF Exception for LP-1464656 fix (update ceph PG calculation algorithm) - was split | 16:04 |
| xarses | FF Exception request for Deploy nova-compute (VCDriver) feature - was split | 16:04 |
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| xarses | for the ones that where approved, what is their current merge status? | 16:04 |
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| ogelbukh | 0/ | 16:05 |
| xarses | FF Exception request for Custom node attributes feature - is merged | 16:05 |
| xarses | FF Exception request for Templates for Networking feature | 16:05 |
| xarses | ^ akasatkin ? | 16:05 |
| xarses | everything is in? | 16:05 |
| akasatkin | All code is in master. | 16:05 |
| akasatkin | We've got working demployments with custom networks and templates. | 16:05 |
| akasatkin | But there are some bugs which need to be fixed. | 16:05 |
| akasatkin | And we need to land some fixes into master to get all stuff to work properly. | 16:05 |
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| xarses | FF Exception request for Env Upgrade feature, was approved. Has everything landed? | 16:06 |
| akasatkin | So, it is OK, we work on bugs | 16:06 |
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| ogelbukh | xarses: not yet | 16:07 |
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| xarses | ogelbukh: any blockers? what's your eta? | 16:07 |
| ogelbukh | one patch out of 4 is merged, 1 is close to merge, 2 more are still in dev | 16:07 |
| ogelbukh | no particular blockers, just not enough eng resource | 16:08 |
| mihgen | ogelbukh: any specific area where you need help? | 16:08 |
| ogelbukh | expect to be ready to merge all by tomorrow | 16:08 |
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| ogelbukh | just prompt responses from reviewers | 16:09 |
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| xarses | sounds good | 16:09 |
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| xarses | FF Exception request for Deploy nova-compute (VCDriver) feature | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh | and I'm actually quite impressed by it | 16:09 |
| ogelbukh | everything goes pretty quick | 16:09 |
| xarses | was approved in part, has that part landed? | 16:09 |
| mihgen | holser bogdando aglarendil alex_didenko one of you could land only ^^ | 16:11 |
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| xarses | thanks mihgen | 16:11 |
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| xarses | ok, I will ask for a follow up on the ML | 16:12 |
| sgolovatiuk | mihgen: VCDriver was landed | 16:12 |
| sgolovatiuk | the rest is still in progress | 16:13 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: sorry I'm still looking for holser, you changed your nick | 16:13 |
| mihgen | what is "the rest"? | 16:13 |
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| sgolovatiuk | I'll change it back | 16:13 |
| sgolovatiuk | sorry | 16:13 |
| xarses | any other feature freeze related items to raise / talk about? | 16:14 |
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| xarses | ok moving on | 16:15 |
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| xarses | #topic Overall bugs situation (mihgen) | 16:15 |
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| mihgen | guys we are in a challenging situation | 16:15 |
| mihgen | #link http://postimg.org/image/z81emkhop/ | 16:15 |
| mihgen | this is grap for all bugs in fuel, start date is about when we started the release, end date is HCF | 16:15 |
| mihgen | #link http://postimg.org/image/46ca5sglj/ | 16:15 |
| mihgen | this one for critical & high only | 16:15 |
| mihgen | of course, we just refocused to bugs from features, but still. Let's ensure that we are totally committed to work on bugs now | 16:16 |
| mihgen | Also, we need to focus on most important | 16:16 |
| sgolovatiuk | mihgen: We made Bug Squashing Day today | 16:16 |
| sgolovatiuk | with aglarendil and bogdando | 16:16 |
| aglarendil | and alex_didenko | 16:16 |
| mihgen | that's why let's continue to collect bugs to be moved to 8.0 | 16:17 |
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| vkramskikh | I heard guys want to deal with mediums - they are travelling from release to release. we (UI team) also try to squash as much mediums as possible before SCF | 16:17 |
| mihgen | and once leads agrees, those can be moved. | 16:17 |
| aglarendil | I suggest other teams (non-Fuel Library) also do triaging of their bugs and add corresponding non-release tags and set correct priorities | 16:17 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: focus now should be on unblocking extensive testing | 16:17 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1479090 | 16:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479090 in Fuel for OpenStack "API locks up during serialization, Number of nodes to serialize impacts lockup time" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sylwester Brzeczkowski (sbrzeczkowski) | 16:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1479090 in fuel "API locks up during serialization, Number of nodes to serialize impacts lockup time" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1479090 in fuel "API locks up during serialization, Number of nodes to serialize impacts lockup time" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479090 | 16:18 |
| mihgen | this one, for example, blocks >=50nodes install. So we need to fix it quickly | 16:18 |
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| mihgen | we might want to move many mediums / lows to 8.0 but pick some of those if we can later | 16:18 |
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| mihgen | aglarendil: thank you for triaging session today | 16:19 |
| mihgen | xarses: let's move to the aglarendil's update on triaging | 16:19 |
| aglarendil | I can provide some details | 16:19 |
| angdraug | vkramskikh: you can only work on mediums if there's no high & critical bugs that you can fix, even now, before SCF | 16:19 |
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| xarses | vkramskikh: we now have new criteria for UX defects for high and critical | 16:20 |
| mihgen | angdraug: vkramskikh or you can't take high/critical... if you don't have subject matter expertise to work in there.. | 16:20 |
| xarses | We might want to assess if medium is actually high with UX criteria | 16:20 |
| xarses | but if its been moved from release to release, its probably not urgent | 16:20 |
| xarses | moving to the sub topic | 16:21 |
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| xarses | #topic Fuel Library bugs triaging results (aglarendil) | 16:21 |
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| aglarendil | so far we did triaging for Fuel Library bugs today for C/H/M bugs with core reviewers: | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | sgolovatiuk, alex_didenko and bogdando | 16:21 |
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| aglarendil | brief results for bugs that were somehow changed are here: | 16:21 |
| aglarendil | #link https://etherpad.mirantis.net/p/7.0-fuellib-bugs-triage | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | oops, sorry, I will copy it to public location | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | after the meeting | 16:22 |
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| aglarendil | so far, we added non-release tags and marked some old bugs as incomplete ones | 16:22 |
| aglarendil | as they were too old | 16:22 |
| mihgen | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/7.0-fuellib-bugs-triage | 16:23 |
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| mihgen | I just did | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | and could have been fixed by upstream merges or HA improvements or other features | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | also, we deduplicated some of them and decreased priorites of the bugs | 16:23 |
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| aglarendil | and pushed them | 16:23 |
| aglarendil | to 8.0 | 16:23 |
| mihgen | list contains all bugs you guys processed? | 16:24 |
| aglarendil | please read this document and provide your objections if any | 16:24 |
| mihgen | or only those which you have questions / need feedback? | 16:24 |
| aglarendil | nope, only those that we changed somehow | 16:24 |
| aglarendil | others we just did not touch saying "it is valid" | 16:24 |
| mihgen | ok. Thanks. I actually checked a few, and milestone was still 7.0 | 16:25 |
| mihgen | so you wanted to get feedback first if any, and then move? | 16:25 |
| mihgen | if there are no concerns? | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | mihgen: we did not move all of them | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | some of them were marked as wishlist | 16:25 |
| aglarendil | some of them were marked as low priority and won't fix | 16:25 |
| xarses | wow, you guys where busy | 16:26 |
| aglarendil | we will surely go over wishlist bugs and attach them to corresponding blueprints | 16:26 |
| mihgen | ok understand now. | 16:26 |
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| aglarendil | we wanna get feedback and revert our actions if needed | 16:26 |
| aglarendil | leaning to lazy consensus here | 16:26 |
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| mihgen | thanks aglarendil & team - great work, thank you for collecting all them in etherpad so other can review | 16:26 |
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| mihgen | xarses: moving on? | 16:27 |
| xarses | yep | 16:27 |
| xarses | #topic Change SCF date (mihgen) | 16:27 |
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| mihgen | question here guys is the following. We want to reach HCF date. and I don't see us converging to it yet | 16:28 |
| mihgen | If we move SCF date 1 week earlier, would it allow us to focus on critical / highs more? | 16:28 |
| mihgen | and as such to be sure in hitting HCF date? | 16:28 |
| ikalnitsky | mihgen i thought we're fixing high/critical now, and we have no time for medium bugs at all | 16:29 |
| ikalnitsky | i mean our "medium" bugs usually just move to next release | 16:29 |
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| ikalnitsky | due to lack of time, so i don't think it change something | 16:29 |
| mihgen | let's get some data if it's the case | 16:30 |
| mwhahaha | moving the scf date doesn't really change what we're supposed to be working on other than disrupting if there are any pending reviews for medium bugs out there | 16:30 |
| xarses | mwhahaha: +1 | 16:30 |
| mwhahaha | rather than being able to close bugs we are preventing us from doing so by artificial dates | 16:31 |
| xarses | i think 1) discourage working on medium bugs | 16:31 |
| angdraug | pending reviews still require attention on review test & merge and introduce risk of regression | 16:31 |
| angdraug | that attention is better spent on high priority bugs | 16:31 |
| xarses | 2) Re-triage medium bugs against UX criteria to see if they deserve high | 16:31 |
| mwhahaha | while i wait for a bug to reproduce, i can work on other things | 16:31 |
| mwhahaha | just because it's high/crit doesn't mean i don't have time for a minor fix | 16:32 |
| amaksimov | +1 to move HCF week. it will send clear message that gates for medium bugs will be closed soon | 16:32 |
| angdraug | yes, but other things should be other high priority bugs | 16:32 |
| mwhahaha | we don't have that many bugs | 16:32 |
| xarses | 3) There should only be a small set of medium bugs that people want to work on | 16:32 |
| amaksimov | and we will have better focus on CRIT/HIGH | 16:32 |
| xenolog13 | +1 to move | 16:32 |
| angdraug | also see my point about medium review increasing unnecessary risk of regressions | 16:33 |
| mihgen | #link http://lp-reports.vm.mirantis.net/reports/custom_report?milestone=7.0&status=Fix%20Committed&status=Fix%20Released&importance=Medium&importance=Low&importance=Wishlist&fix_committed_from=2015-07-01&fix_committed_to=2015-09-03&assignee=fuel-python&assignee=fuel-qa&assignee=fuel-provisioning&assignee=fuel-ui&assignee=fuel-library&assignee=fuel-astute | 16:33 |
| mihgen | sorry for internal link I hope it will be open soon | 16:33 |
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| mihgen | but it's 125 medium / low fixed over July | 16:33 |
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| xarses | mihgen: ya, I was about to say, I thought we where open sourcing that | 16:34 |
| mihgen | xarses: I thought too, authz in there, I don't know why it can't be deployed public | 16:34 |
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| angdraug | mihgen: ran the same report, got even bigger numbers | 16:34 |
| mihgen | so guys still there are many being closed | 16:34 |
| mihgen | that's good from one hand | 16:34 |
| nurla | mihgen: if we will move SCF, it can affect some criteria for it - test cases/CI readiness | 16:35 |
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| mihgen | from another - this time might could be spent on high/critical | 16:35 |
| mihgen | nurla: it's SCF, not HCF, why CI is affected at all? | 16:35 |
| xarses | nurla: I don't think any tests should be blocked for code that is already in master | 16:35 |
| mihgen | what about test cases? | 16:35 |
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| xarses | regardless of the bug priority | 16:35 |
| nurla | we have to implement jobs for test before SCF actually | 16:36 |
| angdraug | 268 medium and lower bugs w/o customer-found tag fixed in fuel since july 1 based on the incoming/outgoing report | 16:36 |
| mihgen | so I think we can still land medium and low for couple more weeks, but the focus should stay around high and critical | 16:36 |
| angdraug | 87 of those in the last week | 16:36 |
| mihgen | angdraug: In Fuel LP project? As my data was about dev teams | 16:36 |
| mihgen | not including qa / infra | 16:36 |
| angdraug | yes | 16:36 |
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| xarses | mihgen: should we vote then or move to the ML | 16:37 |
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| mihgen | xarses: let's vote | 16:37 |
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| angdraug | 223 excluding docs and infra | 16:38 |
| angdraug | 76 last week | 16:38 |
| xarses | #startvote move SCF closer 1 week? Yes, No | 16:38 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: move SCF closer 1 week? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 16:38 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:38 |
| xarses | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| mwhahaha | #vote no | 16:39 |
| mihgen | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| angdraug | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| xarses | I don't like it, but I see the need | 16:39 |
| prmtl | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| vkramskikh | #vote yes | 16:39 |
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| evgenyl | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| IvanKliuk | irc://fuel-irc.mirantis.com:7777/#vote yes | 16:39 |
| xenolog13 | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| mattymo_ | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| warpc__ | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| akislitsky | #vote yes | 16:39 |
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| dpyzhov | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| amaksimov | #vote yes | 16:39 |
| IvanKliuk | #vote yes | 16:40 |
| alex_didenko | #vote yes | 16:40 |
| openstack | IvanKliuk: Â yes is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No. | 16:40 |
| akasatkin | #vote yes | 16:40 |
| mihgen | IvanKliuk: you need to re-try, as there was a wrong message pasted before yes | 16:40 |
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| mihgen | oh you did, sorry | 16:40 |
| nurla | are you really sure that we haven't some critical in medium issues? | 16:40 |
| IvanKliuk | #vote Yes | 16:40 |
| amaksimov | #vote Yes | 16:41 |
| xarses | nurla: we should check them for the new criteria in UX, but in general they wont be | 16:41 |
| mihgen | nurla: we are not, and there is another procedure to move bugs to another release | 16:41 |
| mihgen | where we would ask your team to approve it | 16:41 |
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| xarses | ok, looks like we cant go the otherway, so I'll end it | 16:41 |
| xarses | #endvote | 16:41 |
| openstack | Voted on "move SCF closer 1 week?" Results are | 16:41 |
| openstack | Yes (15): warpc__, xarses, angdraug, mattymo_, xenolog13, vkramskikh, dpyzhov, akislitsky, evgenyl, IvanKliuk, akasatkin, amaksimov, prmtl, alex_didenko, mihgen | 16:41 |
| openstack | No (1): mwhahaha | 16:41 |
| mihgen | so of course if there is anything critical, it must not go to 8.0 | 16:41 |
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| xarses | Ok, so we will move SCF closer by 1 week | 16:42 |
| xarses | moving on? | 16:42 |
| xarses | #topic Bugs stalled in "in progress" state: http://bit.ly/1Iu6RsH (mihgen) | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | sorry mwhahaha. It's about focus now.. | 16:42 |
| mihgen | #link http://bit.ly/1Iu6RsH | 16:42 |
| mwhahaha | that's fine | 16:42 |
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| mihgen | fokls I came across | 16:42 |
| mihgen | and it's ton of bugs stalled actually | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | And I started to dig in thinking why | 16:43 |
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| mihgen | the reason can be lp-reports | 16:43 |
| mihgen | where we look only for particular teams of our interest. But if someone unaffiliated with the team takes a bug | 16:44 |
| mihgen | it's being shown in Uknown bugs | 16:44 |
| xarses | So how should we attempt to address it? | 16:44 |
| alex_didenko | it's related with review queues, as I remember this week we've got lower review activity and thus growing amount of in progress bugs | 16:44 |
| mihgen | angdraug: btw whole your fuel-infra is unkown now I believe ... | 16:44 |
| angdraug | shouldn't be, it now has a team in lp-reports | 16:44 |
| mihgen | xarses: to address queues, we've got to check SLAs and poke people around, so I'd like to ask leads to ensure that it's the case | 16:45 |
| mihgen | for unknown, I'd like someone to take an action item and clean it up | 16:45 |
| xarses | there are alot of in-progress high and even a critical | 16:45 |
| xarses | seems wrong... | 16:45 |
| xarses | i'd expect to see a good amount of medium / low | 16:45 |
| mwhahaha | a bunch of these bugs are in a weird state if you compare the comments vs status, https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1430376 In progress but was updated to won't fix according to the comments | 16:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1430376 in Fuel for OpenStack 7.0.x "Duplicate server parameter in dnsmasq.template.erb" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Bartlomiej Piotrowski (bpiotrowski) | 16:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1430376 in fuel/7.0.x "Duplicate server parameter in dnsmasq.template.erb" [Low,In progress] | 16:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1430376 in fuel/7.0.x "Duplicate server parameter in dnsmasq.template.erb" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1430376 | 16:46 |
| angdraug | mwhahaha: LP doesn't always show status updates in comments, check activity history | 16:46 |
| mihgen | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1430376/+activity | 16:46 |
| mihgen | that's where you look for it | 16:46 |
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| mwhahaha | yea that's not confusing | 16:47 |
| mihgen | #link http://lp-reports.vm.mirantis.net/reports/custom_report?milestone=7.0&assignee=unknown | 16:47 |
| mihgen | 154 unknown bugs in the internal tool we use | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | so those are getting lost quickly if we filter by teams | 16:47 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: mos-infra is actually in there | 16:48 |
| xarses | #action mihgen to follow up on lp-reports.vm.mirantis.net still being closed | 16:48 |
| mihgen | xarses: thanks I will | 16:48 |
| mihgen | is sbanka here? | 16:48 |
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| mihgen | alex_didenko: can you please follow up with teams and ask them to fill their people in corresponding groups? | 16:49 |
| xarses | mihgen: can we move along so we can get the three other topics? | 16:49 |
| mihgen | in order to clean it up? | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | xarses: moving on | 16:49 |
| alex_didenko | mihgen: ok | 16:49 |
| xarses | #topic librarian wiki & patches (mwhahaha) | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | alex_didenko: thanks! | 16:50 |
| mwhahaha | I sent out a note yesterday to openstack-dev about the wiki page with an explanation of the librarian work and workflows. Please take some time to read the thread and the wiki page and provide feedback. | 16:50 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/Library_and_Upstream_Modules | 16:50 |
| mwhahaha | The reviews have been updated and are passing CI as well. | 16:50 |
| mwhahaha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/fuel-library+branch:master+topic:bp/fuel-puppet-librarian,n,z | 16:50 |
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| mihgen | what do we want to land from those? | 16:51 |
| mwhahaha | comments/concerns/etc? | 16:51 |
| xarses | So are we going to have a victim, erm... first module? | 16:51 |
| mwhahaha | stdlib | 16:51 |
| mwhahaha | :D | 16:51 |
| xarses | cinder was dropped? | 16:51 |
| mwhahaha | oh it's there | 16:51 |
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| mihgen | we need to test in custom iso if we want to land it | 16:51 |
| mwhahaha | but if you look at the ordering of the patches, stdlib is the first | 16:51 |
| mihgen | and ensure that people can figure out later where the code is coming from | 16:51 |
| mihgen | Also, our upgrade tarball should take the right code | 16:52 |
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| angdraug | kozhukalov_: ^ | 16:52 |
| xarses | mihgen: nurla can we designate 1 or 2 QA to be trained by mwhahaha so there are no gaps? | 16:52 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: any objections? | 16:52 |
| mihgen | xarses: 1 should be over than enough | 16:53 |
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| angdraug | can we land it today? tomorrow? | 16:53 |
| xarses | I'd like to see it landed today | 16:53 |
| mihgen | sgolovatiuk: alex_didenko Looks like you'd need to look into it guys, and let's socialize it | 16:53 |
| xarses | the longer we wait, the less likely it's to happen | 16:53 |
| mihgen | if we want to merge, then let's do carefully | 16:53 |
| xarses | so what do we need to do before merge to be sure we are ok? | 16:54 |
| xarses | test custom iso? how BVT? Swarm? | 16:54 |
| mihgen | there is a discussion in ML let's continue there and move to another topic | 16:54 |
| mihgen | custom ISO should be enough | 16:54 |
| mwhahaha | so you have to pick the modules you want to start with | 16:54 |
| mihgen | plus what I mentioned | 16:54 |
| mwhahaha | the CI shows that it's still functioning even without core peices like stdlib | 16:55 |
| xarses | moving on | 16:55 |
| mihgen | While merging, I'd start with one and then see | 16:55 |
| alex_didenko | we can use 'diff -r' :) | 16:55 |
| angdraug | all we need is to confirm that puppet code in fuel-library rpm remains exactly the same as before merge, no? | 16:55 |
| angdraug | alex_didenko: +1 | 16:55 |
| alex_didenko | and compare /etc/puppet/modules from old library and from new one (with librarian) | 16:55 |
| mwhahaha | i did that as part of the migration of each module | 16:55 |
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| mwhahaha | which is where you see some have upgraded versions | 16:55 |
| mwhahaha | so this is something you do during the migration from our repo to librarian | 16:56 |
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| alex_didenko | ok, nice | 16:56 |
| mwhahaha | so i'd be happy to talk to someone about it and go do some diffs | 16:56 |
| mihgen | grep -r won't work for people on the hook to support | 16:56 |
| angdraug | ok, lets move on, unless there are objections on ML we'll land it today | 16:56 |
| mwhahaha | but this is why i picked the modules out there | 16:56 |
| mihgen | it has to be easy | 16:56 |
| xarses | #topic Ceph-related bug fixes (mihgen) | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204814/ | 16:56 |
| mihgen | I've heard that we don't pay enough attention to this one | 16:56 |
| mihgen | just wanted to know what's up in there | 16:56 |
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| mihgen | looks like we need ceph SMEs to review this one, so xarses please take a look | 16:57 |
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| xarses | yep | 16:57 |
| alex_didenko | ok, as far as I know a bugfix contains of two parts - fuel-web and library | 16:57 |
| xarses | alex_didenko: correct | 16:57 |
| alex_didenko | and fuel-web has some backwards compatibility | 16:57 |
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| evgenyl | Ryan and Andrew are the main persons who should review patch. | 16:57 |
| mihgen | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204811/ | 16:58 |
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| alex_didenko | so we should merge it first, update CI iso and only then merge library part | 16:58 |
| evgenyl | Also I've added fuel-cores, because there were no any | 16:58 |
| mihgen | this is library part | 16:58 |
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| mwhahaha | these commits needs more details as to what is being done | 16:59 |
| mihgen | is koder here? | 16:59 |
| mwhahaha | these commit messages don't provide enough info on what/why it's changing and what is needed | 16:59 |
| xarses | mattymo: sorry, won't get to you please raise on the ML | 16:59 |
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| mwhahaha | i looked at the commits but since i don't know what is supposed to be there, I don't feel comfortable +1'ing them (at least the python one) | 16:59 |
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| mihgen | ok let's review it guys then and leave comments | 17:00 |
| xarses | mwhahaha: there is a BP that explains it | 17:00 |
| mwhahaha | which is not linked to | 17:00 |
| mwhahaha | in the commit message | 17:00 |
| mihgen | So I think we would need to ask for clarifications then | 17:00 |
| xarses | but ya, it needs to be linked | 17:00 |
| angdraug | time | 17:00 |
| mihgen | if it's not clear | 17:00 |
| xarses | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 30 17:00:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| mihgen | thank you guys | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-07-30-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-07-30-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2015/fuel.2015-07-30-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| tmcpeak | o/ | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | hi | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | \m/ | 17:01 |
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| browne | hi | 17:01 |
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| tkelsey | o/ | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | #startmeeting security | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 30 17:02:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmcpeak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | I'll hand it over when he comes | 17:02 |
| Daviey | \o | 17:02 |
| elmiko | cool | 17:02 |
| timkennedy | o/ | 17:02 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Roll-Call | 17:02 |
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| sicarie | o/ | 17:02 |
| bknudson | hi | 17:03 |
| elmiko | ~O~ | 17:03 |
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| tmcpeak | ^ this is fun :D | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:03 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Anchor | 17:03 |
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| tmcpeak | tkelsey, dg_, Daviey, viraptor | 17:03 |
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| tkelsey | hey, so there was a spec for the API changes | 17:04 |
| tkelsey | i'll dig it up | 17:04 |
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| tkelsey | #link https://review.openstack.org/190473 | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | ok cool, where we at on this? | 17:05 |
| dg_ | hey guys, sorry Im late, I got distracted watching a video from our HR director talking about the dress code | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | :D | 17:05 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:05 |
| tkelsey | oh wait thats not the spec | 17:05 |
| Daviey | dg_: I hope you are wearing a shirt & tie for this meeting | 17:06 |
| dg_ | changing right now! | 17:06 |
| tmcpeak | if dg_ is wearing pants he's probably above industry average | 17:06 |
| dg_ | lol | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205328/ | 17:06 |
| tkelsey | that one | 17:06 |
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| tmcpeak | cool, how's it progressing? | 17:07 |
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| tkelsey | slowly, we are discussing things | 17:07 |
| tkelsey | its a big change | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | yeah fair enough | 17:07 |
| dg_ | Im still uncomfortable with with ASN1 change | 17:08 |
| dg_ | is rob here? | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | are you guys exercising your constitutionally guaranteed right to argue on the internet about it? | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | dg_ not yet | 17:08 |
| Daviey | I share similar concerns to dg | 17:08 |
| tmcpeak | he's *here* but not "here" | 17:08 |
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| tmcpeak | allright Anchors, anything you want to summarize for the rest of us to get input or bikeshed city? | 17:09 |
| dg_ | ok, so lets shelve discussion on the ASN1 change for the moment. tkelsey did you cover the api change? | 17:09 |
| Daviey | TL;DR cryptography.io doesn't quite have all the humanised functions that we need, so we are stepping deeper into the libraries it abstracts | 17:09 |
| tkelsey | nope, take it away dg_ | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: ahh | 17:09 |
| bknudson | +1 to improving cryptography | 17:10 |
| dg_ | Daviey agreed - and personally I'd rather submit patches to cryptography unless theres a very good reason we should switch to something else | 17:10 |
| dg_ | bknudson +1 | 17:10 |
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| tmcpeak | cryptography really seems to suit our needs well, so seems to make sense to double down on that with our effort | 17:10 |
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| Daviey | I think the argument that Stan had was that anything in crypto'.io would be mostly transparent anyway | 17:11 |
| dg_ | so Rob/viraptor will need to come defend this one, so lets shelve it until one of them is here | 17:11 |
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| Daviey | Agreed | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | dg_ +1 | 17:11 |
| tmcpeak | ok, fair enough | 17:11 |
| dg_ | right, Anchor API change | 17:11 |
| dg_ | +2 from me tbh | 17:11 |
| tkelsey | same from me, its a good change and gives us API versioning to protect future changes | 17:12 |
| dg_ | Im at the point where I think we should just do it, providing the docs are updated in the patch | 17:12 |
| Daviey | +1 | 17:12 |
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| Daviey | The worry Rob had was that he wanted to check with users that it wouldn't be a problem... but i kinda think they need to just accept this change :) | 17:13 |
| dg_ | Daviey agreed, thats my big worry. currently I know of two users, I've had a long chat with both of them, so they know that its happening | 17:13 |
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| dg_ | however the longer we leave it, the more awkward it gets | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | cool, well seems like most in agreement there | 17:15 |
| Daviey | So.. JFDI? Anything else blocking? | 17:15 |
| bknudson | jfdi is always the answer | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:15 |
| dg_ | +! | 17:15 |
| Daviey | Just as this meeting started, dg_ whacked me with a -1 Workflow on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206141/ . | 17:16 |
| * sigmavirus24 is here but forgot to say helo | 17:16 | |
| tmcpeak | great well... | 17:16 |
| Daviey | I'm not sure I agree with blocking it.. but not had a chance to discuss it with dg_ yet | 17:16 |
| dg_ | Daviey its because i think your change is so freaking awesome | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | #action dg_ To JFDI | 17:16 |
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| dg_ | thanks tmcpeak | 17:16 |
| Daviey | dg_: *la* *la* *la* no sarcasms heard *la* | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | :) | 17:16 |
| tmcpeak | cool, so anything further for Anchor? | 17:16 |
| tkelsey | not from me | 17:17 |
| Daviey | Just that one ^^ | 17:17 |
| Daviey | but dg_, do you want to discuss it offline | 17:17 |
| Daviey | ? | 17:17 |
| bknudson | we've got auth_token middleware for authenticating tokens | 17:17 |
| Daviey | Indeed | 17:17 |
| dg_ | seriously, its great, but its taken me a bunch of days to get my keystone system working to the point where I can test it | 17:17 |
| bknudson | you don't have to write this yourself | 17:17 |
| Daviey | dg_: Didn't the devstack branch work? | 17:17 |
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| Daviey | bknudson: I know.. i just wanted to FIX what was currently broken with least intrusion | 17:18 |
| Daviey | THEN, switch to something supportable | 17:18 |
| bknudson | ok, sounds good | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | allright, let's take this offline bc there might be a fair amount of Bandit and other things to discuss as well | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | fair? | 17:18 |
| Daviey | Just one more thing? | 17:18 |
| dg_ | yeah, the issue was my lack of knowledge of keystone, and my plan was to -1 this, add documentation stepping through how to actually use keystone auth with anchor, and adding some more helpful errors into the keystone anchor module | 17:18 |
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| Daviey | Did anyone else try the devstack branch? | 17:18 |
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| Daviey | Guess not.. Please do! | 17:19 |
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| dg_ | however I take your point about merging this so it works, then fixing the docs and debugging | 17:19 |
| dg_ | I will talk to tkelsey, but i think your approach is probably right | 17:19 |
| Daviey | cool | 17:19 |
| Daviey | move on? | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | allright | 17:19 |
| tkelsey | im ok with iterating on things | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Bandit | 17:19 |
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| dg_ | and bknudson - please point me at some examples, I had a hunt earlier for examples of using the middleware | 17:19 |
| tmcpeak | so two things (at least) to mention here | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | 1) tkelsey is killing it on the doc effort | 17:20 |
| Daviey | +1 | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | if you haven't seen his work yet go check it out | 17:20 |
| bknudson | dg_: everything uses middleware... could check glance paste.ini | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | heh thanks tmcpeak | 17:20 |
| dg_ | bknudson thanks | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | tkelsey you want to mention anything on that? | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | yeah please go take a look and play spot the typo :) | 17:20 |
| bknudson | dg_: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance/tree/etc/glance-api-paste.ini#n76 | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | are you blocked on anything there? | 17:20 |
| tkelsey | no, nothing stopping me pushing full speed on it | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | awesome | 17:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | :D | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | second thing that is probably worth a mention is the IRC discussion we had the other day | 17:21 |
| tkelsey | I plan to update each test as a change set so, I can work on them while I wait for reviews on other stuff | 17:21 |
| bknudson | any plan for a release of bandit? | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | there was some ambiguity about where functions that are definable with config only belong | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: we'll push one after the doc stuff lands | 17:22 |
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| tmcpeak | we're looking at moving some settings into sub-configs to prevent config bloat | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | might wait for that as well | 17:22 |
| browne | tmcpeak: i'd rather see a model such that a project doesn't have to even have its own bandit.yaml | 17:22 |
| bknudson | if you keep pushing back the release for every new feature there will never be a release | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: true | 17:23 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm happy to draw the line at the doc then | 17:23 |
| tkelsey | bknudson: agreed, though there is a lot happening right now. \ | 17:23 |
| dg_ | tmcpeak JFDI... | 17:23 |
| Daviey | I'd really like to see doc's and /etc/ branch land before release | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | LD | 17:23 |
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| tkelsey | Daviey: +1 | 17:23 |
| Daviey | In Debian 7! bugs got raised against the package.. Some of which are upstream issues and mostly all inflight. | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | :D rather | 17:23 |
| tmcpeak | Daviey: orly | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | link? | 17:24 |
| browne | i also think this bug needs to merge before next release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bandit/+bug/1479625 | 17:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479625 in Bandit "hardcoded_sql_expressions dumping traceback errors" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tim Kelsey (tim-kelsey) | 17:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1479625 in bandit "hardcoded_sql_expressions dumping traceback errors" [High,In progress] | 17:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1479625 in bandit "hardcoded_sql_expressions dumping traceback errors" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479625 | 17:24 |
| Daviey | tmcpeak: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=bandit | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | browne: yeah, 100% that needs to get fixed first | 17:24 |
| tkelsey | I have a fix for that SQL one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207513/ | 17:24 |
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| tmcpeak | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794084 interesting | 17:25 |
| openstack | Debian bug 794084 in bandit "bandit: dubious "subprocess call without a subshell"" [Normal,Open] | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | Debian bug 794084 in bandit "bandit: dubious "subprocess call without a subshell"" [Normal,Open] | 17:25 |
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| tmcpeak | I mean it's just a wording issue | 17:25 |
| Daviey | tmcpeak: Do you want to own that issue? | 17:25 |
| Daviey | (pls) | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | Daviey: sure | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | it's just a wording tweak, we're just flagging subprocess calls | 17:26 |
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| tmcpeak | so Bandit team, let's put priority on the Debian bugs | 17:27 |
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| tmcpeak | I'll try to take a couple myself | 17:27 |
| tkelsey | OK, ill find time amongst the docs to look at stuff | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:27 |
| tmcpeak | I'll circle back on IRC later and randomly bug people ;) | 17:28 |
| Daviey | cool | 17:28 |
| tkelsey | but please check out the sql fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207513/ simple fix | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, just need an approval on that, I'm already +2 | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | looks simple enough | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | warning, we should not be approving changes because zuul is backed up to hell | 17:28 |
| tmcpeak | sigmavirus24: ok good to know | 17:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | infra asked everyone to avoid approving changes until the backlog clears up | 17:28 |
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| tkelsey | sigmavirus24: yeah | 17:28 |
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| tmcpeak | but.. but.. we're special | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Sec Guide | 17:29 |
| tkelsey | OK, lets sit on things till tomorrow lol | 17:29 |
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| tmcpeak | sicarie, elmiko, Daviey | 17:29 |
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| elmiko | hey | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | why does Daviey always come up in every project :P the man is everywhere | 17:29 |
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| * Daviey blushes | 17:29 | |
| elmiko | i think sicarie has read through the converted docs | 17:29 |
| elmiko | and so are a few others as well | 17:30 |
| bknudson | Daviey is jfdi'ing | 17:30 |
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| Daviey | hah | 17:30 |
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| elmiko | we have some bugs noted on our etherpad | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: lol | 17:30 |
| Daviey | dg_ has been all over this aswell | 17:30 |
| elmiko | some minor cleanups that need to happen in the rst | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | oh yeah, dg_ | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | forgot | 17:30 |
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| sicarie | and pdesai | 17:30 |
| Daviey | I think we decided that we were blocking migrating it over until there was a Contents on the sidebar. | 17:30 |
| sicarie | Yep, there are 7 issues of content not being there after the RST migration | 17:30 |
| sicarie | The sidebar does not exist, I'm not sure we should block for that | 17:31 |
| Daviey | Err, the nav bar | 17:31 |
| sicarie | Daviey has put a possible solution, but I have not had time to review | 17:31 |
| Daviey | sicarie: It has landed.. | 17:31 |
| dg_ | sicarie did you hear from the docteam? | 17:31 |
| dg_ | Daviey lol | 17:31 |
| Daviey | dg_: I JFDI | 17:31 |
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| sicarie | dg_ the docteam said "doesn't exist, ping the list" and from that Daviey put up his code | 17:31 |
| Daviey | It isn't perfect by style guidelines, but it does what we need | 17:31 |
| dg_ | linky/ | 17:32 |
| elmiko | ^^ | 17:32 |
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| Daviey | But, we need to wait for a release to be cut | 17:32 |
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| sicarie | So I'd like to fix the 7 missing content changes, post the guide, and then fix the sidebar as soon as it is possible | 17:32 |
| Daviey | dg_: daviey.com/tmp/bug.1422454/ | 17:32 |
| Daviey | err http://+ | 17:32 |
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| tmcpeak | he's also the evil genius behind daviey.com | 17:33 |
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| Daviey | tmcpeak: I can sell you a subdomain, with self service ephemeral PKI. | 17:33 |
| dg_ | Daviey lgtm | 17:33 |
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| Daviey | sicarie: issues all on http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sec-guide-rst ? | 17:33 |
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| tmcpeak | Daviey: great, I'll take 150 of them | 17:34 |
| sicarie | Daviey: yep, and in the email I sent out asking for opinions on my rankings | 17:34 |
| Daviey | I think i missed that | 17:34 |
| sicarie | There were quite a bit more issues than the 7, but the rest were (in my opinion) stylistic and could be changed later | 17:34 |
| sicarie | the 7 were missing content, and therefore (again IMO) critical to have in place before we cut over | 17:34 |
| Daviey | sicarie: which list? | 17:34 |
| sicarie | It's at the bottom of the etherpad | 17:35 |
| Daviey | derp | 17:35 |
| sicarie | but I'll re-ping the email where I called out the 7 specifically | 17:35 |
| tmcpeak | this looks really good guys | 17:35 |
| sicarie | for some reason the etherpad isn't conencting for me right now, otherwise I'd put them in a separate section | 17:35 |
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| bknudson | is http://daviey.com/tmp/bug.1422454/dashboard_demo.html the security guide? | 17:36 |
| Daviey | bknudson: No, that is the sample from the theme project | 17:37 |
| Daviey | bknudson: just exercising the different RST, CSS and JSS features etc | 17:37 |
| tmcpeak | now I'm busy trying to assess the security of daviey.com :P | 17:37 |
| Daviey | uho. | 17:38 |
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| bknudson | Daviey: maybe you'll be the topic of a black hat talk | 17:38 |
| Daviey | Fame. | 17:39 |
| bknudson | "security weaknesses in daviey.com" | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 17:39 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | allright anything else for doc pplz? | 17:39 |
| sicarie | Daviey: just re-ping'd that email | 17:40 |
| sicarie | tmcpeak: nope | 17:40 |
| Daviey | thanks sicarie | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Midcycle | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | how's the flight booking/travel etc coming? | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | we had a few maybes | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | elmiko looking at you | 17:40 |
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| tmcpeak | browne | 17:40 |
| elmiko | i brought it up again today, i should here back soon(TM) | 17:41 |
| elmiko | *hear | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:41 |
| dg_ | I will book travel soon | 17:41 |
| dg_ | just as soon as our admn gets back from vacation :) | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | cool, I'm booked | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | doing Crown Plaza | 17:42 |
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| dg_ | not the yacht? | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | I'm getting in stupid early Monday btw in case anybody wants to go grab lunch or something | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | dg_: no, yacht only made sense if there were 4 of us and hyakuhei likes the comforts of hotel rooms | 17:43 |
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| tmcpeak | the yacht: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/5534463?guests=4&s=CuzQ | 17:44 |
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| dg_ | hyakuhei lame | 17:44 |
| elmiko | lol | 17:44 |
| bknudson | that's awesome | 17:44 |
| bknudson | Bathrooms: 4 | 17:44 |
| timkennedy | that's a big assed yacht. | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | "Moored for the duration of your stay, but available for a cruise of local waters ,or a trip thru the locks to Lake Washington, for a added fee." we'll see about that with 4 security guys on board | 17:45 |
| elmiko | haha | 17:45 |
| dg_ | we need to invite that dude who hacks the cars | 17:45 |
| elmiko | charlie miller? | 17:46 |
| tkelsey | :D | 17:46 |
| tkelsey | yeah | 17:46 |
| bknudson | looks comfy enough: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/5534463?guests=4&s=CuzQ | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | haha yeah, although with his skills he'd probably already be there waiting for us with the thing jailbroken already | 17:46 |
| Daviey | bknudson: did you see the airbnb on the site? | 17:46 |
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| Daviey | https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/7038709 | 17:47 |
| dg_ | elmiko the other one turns out hes mates with our boss | 17:47 |
| elmiko | dg_: neat! | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | ^ that might still be an option for elmiko :P | 17:47 |
| bknudson | charge to sleep in a tent | 17:47 |
| elmiko | haha, maybe! | 17:48 |
| bknudson | "Entire home/flat" | 17:48 |
| Daviey | I won't be there, unless anyone wants to pay my airfare :) | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | allright cool, well let's set up a social event sometime in Seattle | 17:48 |
| bknudson | at least you get the whole place | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | but we can do that later | 17:48 |
| dg_ | i was about to say 'try sleeping in a tent in downtown seattle otherwise', but then I remembered what downtown seattle is like! | 17:48 |
| bknudson | there's a fence to keep the dogs out | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | I like pic 2/7 on this | 17:48 |
| sicarie | Yeah, it's a little bit sketchy | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/7038709 the dog is like "what are you waiting for?" | 17:49 |
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| dg_ | tmcpeak LOL | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | allright | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | #topic Other Business | 17:49 |
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| tmcpeak | open floor, what's up? | 17:49 |
| sicarie | API upate? | 17:50 |
| elmiko | so, the tent is basically in someone's backyard? | 17:50 |
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| tmcpeak | elmiko: yeah, seems to be | 17:50 |
| elmiko | rofl | 17:50 |
| sicarie | elmiko: that neighborhood? probably a side yard with open street access | 17:50 |
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| Daviey | Hmm | 17:51 |
| Daviey | Were we not expecting a demo today? | 17:51 |
| Daviey | The RAX API fuzzing thing? | 17:51 |
| sicarie | ^^ | 17:51 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, supposed to be | 17:51 |
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| tmcpeak | that's mvaldes? | 17:51 |
| tmcpeak | I don't think he showed up today | 17:51 |
| elmiko | =( | 17:52 |
| Daviey | Shall we go home then? | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | yep | 17:52 |
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| elmiko | +1 | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | may as well | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | #endmeeting | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | thanks everybody! | 17:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:52 | |
| bknudson | back to the tent | 17:52 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 30 17:52:45 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-07-30-17.02.html | 17:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-07-30-17.02.txt | 17:52 |
| elmiko | thanks tmcpeak | 17:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2015/security.2015-07-30-17.02.log.html | 17:52 |
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| Daviey | bknudson: :) | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | bknudson: lol | 17:53 |
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| elmiko | bknudson: rofl! | 17:53 |
| dg_ | :) | 17:53 |
| tkelsey | thanks all | 17:53 |
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| amitgandhinz | #startmeeting Poppy Weekly Meeting | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 30 19:01:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amitgandhinz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poppy_weekly_meeting' | 19:01 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic RollCall | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:02 | |
| sriram | o/ | 19:02 |
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| cathR_ | o/ | 19:03 |
| tonytan4ever | o/ | 19:03 |
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| malini | o/ | 19:03 |
| anantha | o/ | 19:03 |
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| amitgandhinz | #link Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Poppy | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Recap | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Recap (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:03 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-23-19.02.html | 19:03 |
| amitgandhinz | amitgandhinz to make mimic fastly the default driver | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | this is still a WIP - i have the mimic driver code working in poppy. but i found many endpoints were not implemented in the fastly mimic api | 19:04 |
| amitgandhinz | so many of the tests failed against it | 19:04 |
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| amitgandhinz | i should be able to get it passing by EOD tomorrow | 19:04 |
| sriram | woot, the mimic driver works! | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to make mimic fastly the default driver | 19:05 |
| sriram | it will help us in starting to run api tests at the gate. | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | yup, thats the goal | 19:05 |
| amitgandhinz | i also want to add the dns mimic driver that does not exist yet | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | else we can run the tests at the gate against the Default DNS driver | 19:05 |
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| amitgandhinz | malini to get the outstanding security patches fixed and merged | 19:06 |
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| malini | still WIP - we had one patch merged this week | 19:06 |
| malini | will continue working with HEnry | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to get the outstanding security patches fixed and merged | 19:06 |
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| amitgandhinz | malini to clean up/fix the many test related patches that have been out there for a while | 19:06 |
| malini | this is going to be an ongoing task - security tests | 19:06 |
| amitgandhinz | We should make this more specific | 19:07 |
| malini | still messy there :/ | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #malini to deal with https://review.openstack.org/143720 | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | oops | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to deal with https://review.openstack.org/143720 | 19:07 |
| malini | thanks - lets do one a week :) | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | #action malini to deal with https://review.openstack.org/144324 | 19:07 |
| malini | NOOOOOOO | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | lets start with these two | 19:07 |
| sriram | haha | 19:07 |
| amitgandhinz | haha | 19:07 |
| malini | ok - not bad | 19:08 |
| malini | yelling helps | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | either fix or abandon | 19:08 |
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| malini | I can get these tow done in a week :) | 19:08 |
| amitgandhinz | cool | 19:08 |
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| amitgandhinz | #action amitgandhinz to assign more things to malini at next meeting | 19:09 |
| malini | grrr.... | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | hehe | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever to hound people 4 ever to review his stuff | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | I have been doing that | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | and he got his ip merged | 19:09 |
| malini | didnt we merge the IP restriction? | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | yaya | 19:09 |
| sriram | yep | 19:09 |
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| tonytan4ever | To get the IP restrictions merged, but still need to do that get notification driver merged | 19:09 |
| malini | I have to add an E2E test | 19:09 |
| sriram | hounding worked!! | 19:09 |
| amitgandhinz | well hounded | 19:09 |
| tonytan4ever | I would say keep this item on as I am rolling out more patches. | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Liberty 2 | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty 2 (Meeting topic: Poppy Weekly Meeting)" | 19:10 | |
| amitgandhinz | #link https://launchpad.net/poppy/+milestone/liberty-2 | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | guess what ! | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | its release time! | 19:10 |
| amitgandhinz | liberty 3 starts tomorrow | 19:10 |
| obulpathi | Woot!!! | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | i'll try to cut a release today after this meeting | 19:10 |
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| amitgandhinz | these cycles feel like they are too short | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/ip-restrictions | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | this is merged right | 19:11 |
| tonytan4ever | Right | 19:11 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/geo-restrictions | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | This one I'd say put it in review | 19:12 |
| sriram | wow, time runs by fast. | 19:12 |
| amitgandhinz | already is | 19:12 |
| tonytan4ever | Cool | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/akamai-ssl-driver | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | Started? | 19:13 |
| tonytan4ever | This one is in progress. | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | or Good Progress | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | i'll do good progress | 19:13 |
| tonytan4ever | Yes I started it. Good progress. | 19:13 |
| tonytan4ever | A notification driver bp is coming along with it. | 19:13 |
| amitgandhinz | tonytan4ever: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/poppy/+spec/notification-driver | 19:14 |
| amitgandhinz | ok let me link them | 19:14 |
| tonytan4ever | Woot, it is in review. | 19:14 |
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| amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1433807 | 19:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1433807 in Poppy "Reenable shared ssl + add domains/origins PATCH tests" [Medium,New] | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1433807 in poppy "Reenable shared ssl + add domains/origins PATCH tests" [Medium,New] | 19:15 |
| amitgandhinz | anyone know the status of this bug? | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1433807 in poppy "Reenable shared ssl + add domains/origins PATCH tests" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1433807 | 19:16 |
| * amitgandhinz is there an echo in here? | 19:16 | |
| tonytan4ever | I think I have dealt with it a while back | 19:16 |
| tonytan4ever | It should not be an issue anymore. | 19:16 |
| malini | good question - I might have added tht when we disabled it for some reason | 19:16 |
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| sriram | we can try running it, and see if it fails. | 19:16 |
| malini | tonytan4ever: do we have those api tests? | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: can you check, and if so we can close the bug | 19:17 |
| malini | ok..checking now | 19:17 |
| sriram | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1421183 | 19:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1421183 in Poppy "PATCH - Adding a second rule to an origin causes the service to go to failed state" [High,New] | 19:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1421183 in poppy "PATCH - Adding a second rule to an origin causes the service to go to failed state" [High,New] | 19:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1421183 in poppy "PATCH - Adding a second rule to an origin causes the service to go to failed state" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1421183 | 19:17 |
| amitgandhinz | cool. so fyi liberty-3 will start tomorrow, and go on until Sep 3rd | 19:18 |
| sriram | we need to look at that as well. | 19:18 |
| malini | looks like we have the shared ssl test https://github.com/stackforge/poppy/blob/master/tests/api/services/data_patch_service.json#L307 | 19:18 |
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| amitgandhinz | sriram: i will add that to lib-3 | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | but idk if it still exists | 19:18 |
| amitgandhinz | feels like it shouldnt | 19:18 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: I think we fixed that at some point. | 19:18 |
| sriram | I can check and report back on that. | 19:19 |
| tonytan4ever | malini: line 307-317 in data_patch_service.json should cover that case | 19:19 |
| malini | sriram: I dont see a corresponding patch test for the second rule | 19:19 |
| malini | Can you add tht? | 19:19 |
| sriram | malini: sure | 19:19 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: thanks i added the link to the comment and will close the bug | 19:19 |
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| sriram | I just checked locally, and the bug doesnt seem to exist any more. | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | ok updated them both | 19:20 |
| amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1420945 | 19:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1420945 in Poppy "default ttl not automatically assigned" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Amit Gandhi (amit-gandhi) | 19:21 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1420945 in poppy "default ttl not automatically assigned" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1420945 | 19:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1420945 in poppy "default ttl not automatically assigned" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:21 |
| amitgandhinz | sriram: this is done also right? | 19:21 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: yep | 19:21 |
| sriram | I didnt address the bug in the commit message … :'( | 19:22 |
| malini | & nobody caught that :-$ | 19:22 |
| sriram | baah. | 19:22 |
| sriram | anyway we can assign that to me, and mark as done. | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | this is also done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1466908 | 19:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466908 in Poppy "Patch Updates don't appear immediately" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi) | 19:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1466908 in poppy "Patch Updates don't appear immediately" [Undecided,New] | 19:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1466908 in poppy "Patch Updates don't appear immediately" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1466908 | 19:23 |
| amitgandhinz | how bug list is getting shorter =) | 19:24 |
| amitgandhinz | i like =D | 19:24 |
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| obulpathi | I think this one was fixed | 19:25 |
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| sriram | this one didnt address the bug either.. | 19:26 |
| amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1443619 | 19:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1443619 in Poppy "restrictions rule with no request_url returns 500" [Medium,Incomplete] | 19:26 |
| sriram | we really need to watch for that. | 19:26 |
| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: din't see you message up | 19:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1443619 in poppy "restrictions rule with no request_url returns 500" [Medium,Incomplete] | 19:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1443619 in poppy "restrictions rule with no request_url returns 500" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443619 | 19:26 |
| sriram | never seen the uvirtbot before. | 19:26 |
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| obulpathi | sriram: Its the siri of IRC | 19:27 |
| amitgandhinz | is that 500 still an issue? | 19:28 |
| sriram | there should be some validation in there right? | 19:28 |
| sriram | anyway this is easy to investigate. | 19:28 |
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| sriram | I can take a look a this as well and report back | 19:28 |
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| amitgandhinz | the patch the bug refers to is abandoned | 19:29 |
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| amitgandhinz | marking it as invalid unless sriram repro's it | 19:29 |
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| sriram | roger that | 19:30 |
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| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: can you explain this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1434609 | 19:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434609 in Poppy "PoppyCDN pulls content from origin server by default" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 19:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1434609 in poppy "PoppyCDN pulls content from origin server by default" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 19:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1434609 in poppy "PoppyCDN pulls content from origin server by default" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434609 | 19:30 |
| malini | amitgandhinz: IIRC you fixed the 500 bug in another patch | 19:31 |
| amitgandhinz | isnt the point of cdn to pull content from an oriign? | 19:31 |
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| obulpathi | If a user creates a service with no ttl rules | 19:31 |
| obulpathi | the content is pulled from the origin server all the times | 19:31 |
| malini | obulpathi: if the content is not cacheable, then it always goes to origin (unless it has a caching ttl) | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | and now we are also adding a default ttl to services (which the user can remove if they want) | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | delete it? | 19:32 |
| amitgandhinz | i will mark it as invalid | 19:32 |
| obulpathi | yep | 19:32 |
| sriram | this should be addressed by the default ttl | 19:33 |
| obulpathi | yep, the default ttl also takes care of this | 19:33 |
| obulpathi | amitgandhinz: please mark it as invalid | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1443979 | 19:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1443979 in Poppy "API Tests - Negative tests fail for the wrong reason" [Medium,New] | 19:33 |
| amitgandhinz | malini: this was fixed right? | 19:33 |
| malini | nope | 19:33 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1443979 in poppy "API Tests - Negative tests fail for the wrong reason" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443979 | 19:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1443979 in poppy "API Tests - Negative tests fail for the wrong reason" [Medium,New] | 19:34 |
| malini | we validate for 400s on the negative tests | 19:34 |
| malini | But we had a lot of code changes & now the tests get 400 due to different reasons | 19:34 |
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| malini | not what the test says it is | 19:34 |
| amitgandhinz | ok | 19:34 |
| sriram | we rename the test then | 19:35 |
| sriram | job over lol | 19:35 |
| malini | ideally we shud validate the resp message for 400s | 19:35 |
| amitgandhinz | +1 ensure that the 400 is for what we expect the 400 to be and not a different reason | 19:36 |
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| sriram | yes, +1 | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1473193 | 19:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1473193 in Poppy "Prevent use of root domains in services" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Obulapathi (obulpathi) | 19:36 |
| malini | but tht is a lot of work & I am not sure where it fits in the priorities | 19:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1473193 in poppy "Prevent use of root domains in services" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:36 |
| amitgandhinz | obulpathi: you were working on this right? | 19:36 |
| sriram | obulpathi had a patch for this. | 19:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1473193 in poppy "Prevent use of root domains in services" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473193 | 19:36 |
| obulpathi | Yep, I had put it on shelve while working on Kafka | 19:36 |
| obulpathi | I will unshelve it and finish the failing API tests | 19:37 |
| obulpathi | the PR is out tehre tough | 19:37 |
| amitgandhinz | cool - i will assign it to lib3 | 19:37 |
| obulpathi | thanks :) | 19:37 |
| malini | obulpathi: I am sure you'll finish it much earlier ;) | 19:37 |
| sriram | https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppy/+bug/1408301 | 19:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1408301 in Poppy "PATCH Requests for Domains Returns Confusing Error Message" [Medium,New] | 19:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1408301 in poppy "PATCH Requests for Domains Returns Confusing Error Message" [Medium,New] | 19:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1408301 in poppy "PATCH Requests for Domains Returns Confusing Error Message" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1408301 | 19:37 |
| sriram | I think I have encountered this as well. | 19:38 |
| obulpathi | the error message from jsonpath was confusing? | 19:38 |
| sriram | its basically a bad json patch | 19:38 |
| obulpathi | jsonpatch | 19:38 |
| malini | all of our jsonpatch messages are confusing :/ | 19:38 |
| sriram | but should we be handling it a bit more gracefully? | 19:38 |
| sriram | we need a schema to evaluate schemas!! | 19:39 |
| sriram | :P | 19:39 |
| amitgandhinz | and we sometimes have verbal diarrhea in the error responses | 19:39 |
| malini | :D | 19:39 |
| malini | they do look ugly | 19:39 |
| sriram | thats because of the embedded traceback right? | 19:39 |
| sriram | or do you mean something else? | 19:40 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: ^ | 19:40 |
| tonytan4ever | this is because jsonpatch validation error messages are ugly | 19:40 |
| malini | it makes sense for jsonpatch to return those messages | 19:40 |
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| amitgandhinz | sometimes its the traceback. sometimes it the jsonpatch messages dumping a crapload of json to say a key is wrong | 19:40 |
| malini | But we probably should use them better | 19:40 |
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| amitgandhinz | like it will dump the whole json schema to say you can only enter one item of something | 19:41 |
| tonytan4ever | It's kind tough to translate those messages to be a prettier form though./ | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | it would be nicer to customize those messages but i dont think you can with jsonpatch | 19:41 |
| sriram | tonytan4ever: +1 | 19:41 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: looks like thats a separate project all together | 19:41 |
| malini | we should convert all those messages to 'ooops -try again later' | 19:41 |
| amitgandhinz | ok im done with bugs, any one else want to bug the team about bugs? | 19:41 |
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| sriram | some kind of egress middleware decorator | 19:42 |
| * amitgandhinz for some reason i thought malini was singing britney spears | 19:42 | |
| malini | :D | 19:42 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: what? | 19:42 |
| sriram | lol | 19:42 |
| obulpathi | hahaha | 19:42 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: anyway if we did that, it will be a separate project, we plug into poppy. | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Open Discussion | 19:43 |
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| obulpathi | if we extend out current validations in out code, we can have better error messages | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | did everyone vote yet? | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | who hasnt voted? | 19:43 |
| sriram | obulpathi: correct, but I think the scope is far broader for this. | 19:43 |
| anantha | me | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | go vote! | 19:43 |
| obulpathi | sriram: true | 19:43 |
| amitgandhinz | here are the links | 19:43 |
| sriram | does stoplight have the functionality? | 19:43 |
| obulpathi | I voted! | 19:43 |
| sriram | done voting. | 19:43 |
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| sriram | amitgandhinz: ^ | 19:43 |
| cathR_ | my voting done! | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz |  • CDN for your Cloud - Openstack Poppy https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/3882 | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz |   • Getting High with Poppy CDN https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/5170 | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz |   • Money Laundering with Poppy CDN https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/5175 | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz |   •  | 19:44 |
| sriram | might need to look into it, long time since I looked at stoplight. | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | Avoiding the 7 Deadly Sins while engineering your applications on Openstack https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/Presentation/5506 | 19:44 |
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| amitgandhinz | malini: i dont have your ones handy | 19:44 |
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| malini | amitgandhinz: I havent voted for anybody's :/ | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | GO VOTE! | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | GO VOTE! | 19:44 |
| sriram | vote vote vote!! | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE! | 19:44 |
| amitgandhinz | GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE! | 19:44 |
| tonytan4ever | I just voted. | 19:45 |
| malini | I don't feel so bad since it includes mine :d | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE!GO VOTE! | 19:45 |
| sriram | amit213: lol | 19:45 |
| sriram | damn it | 19:45 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: heh | 19:45 |
| cathR_ | GOVOTE is that Italian? | 19:45 |
| amitgandhinz | https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/4463 | 19:45 |
| * sriram must master tab completion | 19:45 | |
| amitgandhinz | https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/4470 | 19:46 |
| malini | I think I voted - but I dont see the count go up | 19:46 |
| amitgandhinz | where do you see counts? | 19:46 |
| malini | those are dummy counts - nvm :/ | 19:46 |
| malini | found mine https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/4470 | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | i linked it above lol | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | 4463 and 4470 | 19:47 |
| malini | :D | 19:47 |
| sriram | voted. | 19:47 |
| amitgandhinz | voting ends today | 19:48 |
| amitgandhinz | so go vote! | 19:48 |
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| amitgandhinz | #topic Highwinds CDN | 19:48 |
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| sriram | if you did an inverted index on this chat history, i'm sure vote is at No.1 | 19:48 |
| sriram | :P | 19:48 |
| amitgandhinz | so on an unrelated topic, had a great discussion with highwinds yesterday | 19:49 |
| malini | intellectual! | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | they are interested in contributing to Poppy | 19:49 |
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| amitgandhinz | any questions (lol) | 19:49 |
| malini | cymbals!! | 19:49 |
| sriram | that is good to know | 19:49 |
| obulpathi | yay! | 19:49 |
| sriram | will be building the driver? | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Akamai CDN | 19:49 |
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| sriram | timelines? | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | #topic Akamai and Highwinds | 19:49 |
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| sriram | s/will/will they | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | ok lets cover them both | 19:49 |
| sriram | ok | 19:49 |
| amitgandhinz | so highwinds is interested, they have the resources and will hopefully start working with us to build their own driver | 19:50 |
| malini | yayyy | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | i think they are stil ramping up | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | so hopefully they engage and participate | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | lets make sure we welcome them to our channel | 19:50 |
| sriram | of course | 19:50 |
| amitgandhinz | Akamai is also interested in taking over the akamai driver | 19:50 |
| malini | woot..woot | 19:51 |
| sriram | tonytan4ever: ^^ | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | i had a 1.5 hour discussion purely focused on Poppy with them today | 19:51 |
| malini | so we just sit back & watch everybody work <:o) | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | they seemed very keen and really like the idea of it | 19:51 |
| tonytan4ever | That sounds good. | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | they had a few questions around features that others didnt offer and how to integrate that into poppy | 19:51 |
| amitgandhinz | but they were happy with my answers around only exposing common features via the api | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | and anything else are either backend defaults, or we dont offer it | 19:52 |
| sriram | poppy exposes only the most common set of features, over different providers right. | 19:52 |
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| amitgandhinz | we may need to look into flavor settings to enable certain features that some providers have but not all | 19:52 |
| sriram | amitgandhinz: +1 | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | ie, lets say akamai, cloudfront, and cloudflare all offer ddos protection | 19:52 |
| amitgandhinz | but fastly, maxcdn, and highwinds dont | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | we could offer a feature in the flavor settings that enables certain features only (or make them as extensions?) | 19:53 |
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| tonytan4ever | it makes sense. | 19:53 |
| sriram | yeah makes sense | 19:53 |
| amitgandhinz | so we still prevent vendor lock in or vendor specific features, but its no longer the lowest common denominator | 19:53 |
| tonytan4ever | But wouldn't that require us to store some feature info as well ? | 19:53 |
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| amitgandhinz | maybe | 19:54 |
| sriram | thats fine | 19:54 |
| sriram | as long as its in a flavor | 19:54 |
| amitgandhinz | it almost becomes like feature flags | 19:54 |
| obulpathi | +1 for feature flags | 19:54 |
| tonytan4ever | K, just probably another field of flavor table | 19:54 |
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| amitgandhinz | possibly | 19:54 |
| sriram | yeah we can switch flavors whenever needed | 19:54 |
| amitgandhinz | we need to think about it | 19:54 |
| sriram | so dont really see a lock in there. | 19:54 |
| amitgandhinz | as long as the api remains compatible we are okay | 19:54 |
| sriram | yeah | 19:54 |
| amitgandhinz | what we dont want is endpointA is for providerA and endpointB is only for providerB | 19:55 |
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| malini | hmmmm | 19:55 |
| malini | we kinda have tht today :/ | 19:55 |
| amitgandhinz | where? | 19:55 |
| sriram | malini: example? | 19:55 |
| * amitgandhinz 4 min warning | 19:55 | |
| sriram | that probably needs to re-thought of then. | 19:56 |
| malini | IRC didnt like tht | 19:56 |
| malini | admin/provider/akamai/service | 19:56 |
| sriram | we can move to openstack-poppy if we exceed timelimit | 19:56 |
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| amitgandhinz | ah admin specific endpoints | 19:56 |
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| amitgandhinz | that doesnt really count | 19:56 |
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| amitgandhinz | those are for operators only | 19:56 |
| malini | booo | 19:56 |
| amitgandhinz | users would never hit those endpoints | 19:56 |
| malini | fair | 19:57 |
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| sriram | yeah those will probably be shielded from users | 19:57 |
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| amitgandhinz | ok, great meeting | 19:58 |
| sriram | ok anything else to discuss? | 19:58 |
| amitgandhinz | thats all folks | 19:58 |
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| sriram | see ya | 19:58 |
| amitgandhinz | #endmeeting | 19:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 30 19:58:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-30-19.01.html | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-30-19.01.txt | 19:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poppy_weekly_meeting/2015/poppy_weekly_meeting.2015-07-30-19.01.log.html | 19:58 |
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