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| lxsli | hmm 3min clock desync | 14:00 |
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| n0ano | #startmeeting nova-scheduler | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 14:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:01 |
| n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler (other than early bird lxsli :-) | 14:01 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:01 |
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| jaypipes | o/ | 14:02 |
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| n0ano | #topic Liberty specs | 14:02 |
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| n0ano | So, I've noticed that bauzas_off patch https://review.openstack.org/199205 is failing for no good reason and I've hit it with a recheck a couple of times and it's still failing | 14:03 |
| n0ano | do I just keep doing rechecks until the gate decides to work or is there something else going on? | 14:03 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: no. | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: the failures are in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188487/ | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: which is WAY up in the dependent patch chain. | 14:04 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: basically, we all need to do reviews of the whole patch series, starting from the beginning one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145528/38 | 14:05 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, ah, I didn't realize the whole chain was in flight | 14:06 |
| n0ano | reviewing the whole chain is good but bauzas_off won't be back for a week which is unforutnate | 14:07 |
| edleafe | n0ano: we can always push new patches to fix the test failures | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: sure, but we can provide feedback. | 14:07 |
| edleafe | that too :) | 14:08 |
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| lxsli | So anyone want to discuss Liberty Specs? | 14:08 |
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| n0ano | lxsli, kind of what we were doing (these are the patches that implement the specs), what were you concerned about? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | btw, Mitaka is open for specs, if that helps anyone | 14:10 |
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| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, tnx, good to know, we should be proposing a few | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | i need to send quite a few ML mails, thats on my TODO, once this freeze is under control | 14:11 |
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| n0ano | johnthetubaguy, with great power comes great responsibility :-) | 14:12 |
| lxsli | n0ano: we just seemed to be off-topic and furthermore to have wound down | 14:12 |
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| lxsli | n0ano: I'm unsure check-migr-dest will make it given bauzas_off is off and I also depend on alaski's patches that he hasn't written yet | 14:12 |
| n0ano | lxsli, the reality is I've been loose with terminology, the important specs for Liberty are approved so the real discussion is on the patches | 14:13 |
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| n0ano | lxsli, is that spec on the priority page? That's what I've been using for tracking | 14:13 |
| n0ano | lxsli, have you talked to alaski to see how close he is on his patches? | 14:15 |
| lxsli | uh, the spec is merged to Liberty | 14:15 |
| lxsli | not yet I can do that | 14:15 |
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| n0ano | lxsli, so, no problem on the spec, but we do need to track it's patches | 14:16 |
| n0ano | lxsli, can you write preliminary code based upon what alaski should do and then update it when he actually has his implmentation? | 14:17 |
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| lxsli | n0ano: I'm having a go but necessarily that's vague | 14:17 |
| lxsli | I guess I primarily need to sync with alaski, let's move on | 14:17 |
| n0ano | lxsli, I feel your pain but that's the nature of dependencies | 14:18 |
| n0ano | OK, anything else on the current specs/patches? | 14:18 |
| lxsli | On resource-objects, I hope to sync with Jay today to resolve the "last" question | 14:18 |
| n0ano | lxsli, jaypipes is right here, you want to sync right now? | 14:19 |
| lxsli | during meeting time? | 14:19 |
| n0ano | if it | 14:20 |
| lxsli | I can't promise it'll be short :) | 14:20 |
| n0ano | lxsli, let's do it at the end then, we should finish here soon. | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: last I checked, ndipanov was negative on the final patch in the series because he wanted to see it used in followup code. | 14:20 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: I heard that but as a +0 | 14:21 |
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| lxsli | jaypipes: my question is around whether #consume needs to call numa_fit_instance_to_host | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: I have a patch series I will be pushing shortly that refactors unit tests to use mock instead of mox (and not rely on DB in unit tests). I noticed that any time i change the resource tracker, a metric shit-ton of unit tests fail. So, I was hoping to refactor these tests to prevent a giant 5000LOC patch. | 14:22 |
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| jaypipes | lxsli: I thought we chatted about that last wednesday... yes, I think it should use numa_fit_instance_to_host. I need to update that patch. | 14:23 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: OK, didn't catch your agreement. Thanks! | 14:23 |
| n0ano | lxsli, so this was short after all? | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: no worries, man. I was in and out of eleventy billion meetings that day. | 14:24 |
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| lxsli | as it turns out I didn't have to bully Jay hardly at all! | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 14:24 |
| * n0ano bummer, watching bullying on someone else is fun | 14:24 | |
| n0ano | anywy | 14:24 |
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| n0ano | #expose host capabilities | 14:25 |
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| n0ano | so, eventually, I did send out an email late last night, I want to start a discussion... | 14:25 |
| n0ano | my hope is to gather ideas on the problem space before we dive into a solution... | 14:25 |
| n0ano | would love to hear people's thoughts on the ML | 14:26 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: yes, I owe you a response on that. | 14:26 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, slacker, you've literally had from midnight to 6AM to do that :-) | 14:27 |
| jaypipes | :) | 14:27 |
| ndipanov | jaypipes, no I wasn't negative | 14:28 |
| ndipanov | I just said it would be nice to see it in action | 14:28 |
| n0ano | hopefully we can talk about this subject in more detail at the next meeting when everyone has a chance to think about it | 14:28 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 14:28 |
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| ndipanov | and +1ed it iirc | 14:28 |
| n0ano | anyone have anything new today? | 14:28 |
| lxsli | *crickets* | 14:29 |
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| n0ano | I'm hearing the dreaded sound of crickets | 14:29 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: http://www.memes.com/img/510571 | 14:29 |
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| n0ano | run away, puppy pics | 14:30 |
| lxsli | jaypipes: I felt bad about bugging you for a good half-minute after you posted that | 14:30 |
| jaypipes | lxsli: :) I just love that pic. | 14:30 |
| n0ano | tnx everyone, back to reviewing and we'll talk next week | 14:31 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 14:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 14:31:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-03-14.01.html | 14:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-03-14.01.txt | 14:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-03-14.01.log.html | 14:31 |
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| dims | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 16:00:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | sup | 16:00 |
| redrobot | o/ | 16:00 |
| droyal | hi | 16:01 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:01 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:01 |
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| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims | hi all | 16:01 |
| zzzeek | \o | 16:01 |
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| dims | let's get started :) | 16:02 |
| dims | #topic actions from last week | 16:02 |
| dims | #action Dims still has a TODO to organize a virtual doc sprint | 16:02 |
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| dims | will try to send out dates this week. | 16:02 |
| dims | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
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| dims | any liaisons around? | 16:03 |
| bknudson | nothing in keystone | 16:03 |
| johnsom | Nothing to note from Octavia other than we want to get pyroute2 in requirements | 16:03 |
| dims | johnsom: got a review in? | 16:04 |
| dims | #topic Releases for this week | 16:04 |
| dims | This week we release all of the rest of the libs that have requirements and/or translation updates so we're not out of sync with the rest of the projects. Here are the unreleased changes: | 16:04 |
| dims | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for this week (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:04 | |
| johnsom | yes, just a second | 16:05 |
| dims | please review version numbers ^^ | 16:05 |
| dims | thanks johnsom | 16:05 |
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| johnsom | My patchset is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207671/ however there is another one here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168764/ | 16:06 |
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| dims | johnsom: any interest from neutron or other folks in pyroute2? | 16:07 |
| johnsom | It looks like my changes were merged into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168764/ over the weekend. | 16:07 |
| dims | johnsom: ack | 16:07 |
| bknudson | we'll be able to use wsgi_scripts in keystone | 16:08 |
| dims | bknudson: cool | 16:08 |
| johnsom | dims mestery was positive on it when I asked if he had any concerns. I think the old license was a problem but that has now been resolved. | 16:08 |
| bknudson | (unless morganfainberg blocks it) | 16:08 |
| dims | sounds good johnsom | 16:08 |
| dims | ack bknudson | 16:08 |
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| dims | rpodolyaka1: zzzeek: seen this yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1480698 | 16:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480698 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "MySQL error - too many connections" [Undecided,New] | 16:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480698 in nova "MySQL error - too many connections" [Undecided,New] | 16:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480698 in nova "MySQL error - too many connections" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480698 | 16:10 |
| zzzeek | dims: ive seen many occasions of that in various contexts, sure | 16:10 |
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| zzzeek | dims: in fact, the issue could be that the message is exactly accurate :) and you need to raise mysql_max_connections | 16:10 |
| dims | zzzeek: logstash query i think shows it cropping up more hits now i think | 16:11 |
| rpodolyaka1 | dims: not this one, will take a look | 16:11 |
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| dims | rpodolyaka1: thanks | 16:11 |
| zzzeek | dims: nova only or others as well ? | 16:11 |
| dims | zzzeek: saw a lot of neutron hits | 16:11 |
| rpodolyaka1 | but yeah, this might be caused by some other service using all the connections :P | 16:11 |
| dims | ack | 16:12 |
| dims | ozamiatin: kgiusti: how's the driver work going on? | 16:12 |
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| ozamiatin | dims: almost done with notifier https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207503 | 16:12 |
| ozamiatin | dims: got some unit-tests and refactoring from droyal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204736/ | 16:13 |
| ozamiatin | dims: viktors was trying to run zmq + devstack. I will join him this week after the notifier get merged | 16:13 |
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| dims | ack thanks ozamiatin | 16:13 |
| kgiusti | dims: the last blocker for proton 0.10 was submitted | 16:13 |
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| kgiusti | dims: but there's some disagreement whether it works or not. | 16:13 |
| dims | kgiusti: ok | 16:13 |
| kgiusti | dims: :P So there may be a RC1 based on how that resolves. | 16:14 |
| dims | cool | 16:14 |
| dims | redrobot: droyal: e0ne: anything to share? | 16:14 |
| zzzeek | dims: OK i commented, needs more research obviously | 16:15 |
| droyal | nope | 16:15 |
| dims | zzzeek: ack | 16:15 |
| dims | #topic oslo.policy in Nova | 16:15 |
| dims | #link http://markmail.org/message/klrvb4etjbvlah4b | 16:15 |
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| dims | wanted to check if anyone had an opinion on the topic...^^ | 16:15 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ah, that one, adopt all the things! | 16:16 |
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| dims | esp folks working on oslo.policy | 16:16 |
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| bknudson | I guess it's up to nova to decide if they want to switch or not. | 16:17 |
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| bknudson | it's not passing jenkins so that would be a good reason not to merge it | 16:17 |
| dims | bknudson: true | 16:18 |
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| dims | #topic New libraries and drivers - how is it going? | 16:18 |
| dims | #link specs - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ | 16:18 |
| dims | #link library audit - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTR-pN2GD5cK_tHIMyKNL5vh4N8JtXTptcE1bLd2G3E/edit#gid=0 | 16:18 |
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| dims | anyone here today working on new libraries? | 16:18 |
| * harlowja_at_home finished all my libraries, so negative, not me | 16:19 | |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: thanks | 16:19 |
| dims | #topic Ongoing work & Review priorities | 16:20 |
| dims | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-priorities-tracking | 16:20 |
| dims | Any stuck reviews? or specs? | 16:20 |
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| dims | guess nothing :) | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | sooo any interesting one | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | oh oh | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203885/ | 16:20 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ^ starts to make it possible to disconnect eventlet from all the things | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | but i wanted peoples thoughts on it | 16:21 |
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| harlowja_at_home | its similar to how the kazoo library handles different async models | 16:21 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: ack. i've starred it | 16:21 |
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| harlowja_at_home | it probably could be done a little differently, but it can be a way out of the eventlet for all the things mess | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | something to look over, i'm ok with doing it differently... (not strongly attached) | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://github.com/python-zk/kazoo/tree/master/kazoo/handlers (how kazoo does it) | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | so ya, anyone interested let me know | 16:23 |
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| dims | thanks harlowja_at_home | 16:23 |
| dims | #topic Open discussion | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 16:23 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: can you please run the meeting next week? | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, u've been going to all the meetups recently ya | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, sure | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'll be away 12th -> 23rd (or something like that) so can't run the meetings then | 16:24 |
| dims | thanks harlowja_at_home | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | but next week is fine | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | anything intersting from all the midcycles that u've been to? | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | (oslo related or not) | 16:24 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: keystone and nova were the ones i went to. there were new initiatives in keystone, exciting | 16:25 |
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| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:25 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: the dynamic policy demo was good for example | 16:25 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ah, yes i've heard about that, how does that affect the projects? sounds an awfully lot like dynamic config reloading, which i didn't think the projects handled without a sighup | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | *dynamic config reloading without software that knows how to do it == hard | 16:26 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: lookup the specs in keystone | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:26 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-liberty-midcycle-meetup | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, oh the other idea that i never think got talked about | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | an oslo tag (oslo-certified) for the TC? | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | (do not call it moosed) | 16:28 |
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| harlowja_at_home | might be nice to have that on projects as they get tagged or whatever | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | maybe tag called 'osloified' lol | 16:29 |
| dims | hmm, will think about that. | 16:29 |
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| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | what should a project do to get such a tag then? +) | 16:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, thats a good question | 16:30 |
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| harlowja_at_home | be an active particpant in oslo, have a oslo-cooordiantor person | 16:31 |
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| dims | not sure what it would mean to an end operator | 16:31 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ya, something to think about | 16:32 |
| dims | thanks harlowja_at_home.. let;s wrap this up for today | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:32 |
| dims | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 16:32:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-03-16.00.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-03-16.00.txt | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-03-16.00.log.html | 16:32 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 19:00:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-08-03 | 19:01 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:02 |
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| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | hello pvaneck: sslypushenko__: | 19:02 |
| pvaneck | hello all | 19:03 |
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| catherineD | let's start ... did you see the agenda link .. | 19:04 |
| sslypushenko__ | yeap | 19:04 |
| catherineD | ok | 19:04 |
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| catherineD | #topic Relocate RefStack Project | 19:05 |
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| hogepodge | o/ | 19:05 |
| catherineD | hello hogepodge: | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko__ | hi hogepodge: | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205609/ was merged this morning .... so openstack-infra has adopted Refstack !!! | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205609/ was merged this morning .... so openstack-infra has adopted Refstack !!! (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:06 | |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: I know we have discussed to move Refstack under OpenStack ... Is the Foundation OK with Refstack under Infra? | 19:08 |
| hogepodge | yes, it's really the team's call | 19:08 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Good news!) | 19:08 |
| hogepodge | you might want to get on a TC agenda to make sure that refstack qualifies for ATC for active contributors | 19:08 |
| hogepodge | It's not clear if that's automatic with the merge to infra, but I feel like the team members deserve it. | 19:09 |
| catherineD | so I will proceed by pushing an update to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205777/ | 19:09 |
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| hogepodge | Note that because Defcore is a board project and not a TC project, ATC is not available for Defcore contributors | 19:09 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thx for the suggestion ... Yes I will do that /// | 19:09 |
| catherineD | yes our team deserve to be ATC ... | 19:10 |
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| catherineD | #action Catherine to get on a TC agenda to make sure that Refstack contributors qualify for ATC | 19:11 |
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| catherineD | the only reason https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205777/ has a -1 is because I did not put down that Refstack uses Storryboard ... | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | all project under Infra use Storyboard ... | 19:12 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:13 |
| catherineD | #info The Refstack team decided on the Vancouver f2f meeting that we will not use Storyboard | 19:13 |
| pvaneck | seems more like he thought it was an oversight and not intentional | 19:14 |
| Rockyg | Infra is looking at and likely going with phabricator | 19:14 |
| catherineD | #action Catherine to update patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205777/ with reason why Storyboard was not included | 19:14 |
| sslypushenko__ | Storyboard is not suitable for failing bugs | 19:14 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: not sure you see the earlier converstaion but the good news is Refstack is approved to be under openstack-infra | 19:15 |
| catherineD | so I take that the Refstack team still want to keep our decision of not using Storyboard | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko__ | But if infra team insist on storyboard, I think thar using a Storyboard will be a big issue | 19:16 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I think if they insist .... we should use both ... | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko__ | we can use launchpad only as bag tracker | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: agree | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | #agreed Refstack will use launchpad for bugs report | 19:18 |
| catherineD | #topic Infra Hosting | 19:19 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: we need help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ it failed Jenkins .. | 19:20 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: hogepodge: do you know anyone in Infra can help? | 19:21 |
| Rockyg | Yeah. We just have to go over to openstack-infra and ask. | 19:22 |
| hogepodge | looking | 19:23 |
| hogepodge | couldn't stat console? | 19:23 |
| hogepodge | I'll try a recheck to see it it's on the infra side | 19:24 |
| pvaneck | seems to have been consistently failing just the trusty job | 19:24 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thank you! | 19:25 |
| catherineD | #action hogepodge: will try to recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198869/ | 19:26 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: you will aks for review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203764/ ? | 19:26 |
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| pvaneck | yep | 19:27 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: thx | 19:27 |
| catherineD | moving on .. | 19:27 |
| catherineD | #topic OpenStackID integration | 19:27 |
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| catherineD | This should be our priority for the next 2 weeks | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: are the patches still WIP? | 19:28 |
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| sslypushenko__ | They are still WIP because they need unittest coverage | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko__ | I'm planing to finish test results sharing first | 19:29 |
| catherineD | ic ... I know pvaneck: had run some tests .... I will run some tests this week ... | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko__ | and than start covering that patches with tests | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | ok ... will there be db update on any of this patches? | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | I'm planing to finish test result deleting and sharing this week | 19:31 |
| catherineD | these | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | Yes | 19:31 |
| catherineD | are you adding new column? | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | Adding new table | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | for storing user public keys | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | You can use run-in-docker script | 19:32 |
| catherineD | ic | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko__ | It solves such kind on problem) | 19:32 |
| catherineD | while we are in this topic ... could we look at item 5.2.2 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack_f2f_may_2015 | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | under action items | 19:33 |
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| sslypushenko__ | We can add tags | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko__ | in next step | 19:33 |
| pvaneck | yep | 19:34 |
| catherineD | so would the tags be in a new table? | 19:34 |
| catherineD | I am thinking tag woukd be a key/value pair ... | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko__ | current db schema and API allows to do it easily | 19:34 |
| catherineD | one of which could be the publice key | 19:35 |
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| catherineD | would that make sense? | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko__ | tags will be stored into metadata table | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko__ | public keys are stored into this table to | 19:36 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I take that you would like the public key to be on its own table | 19:36 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: so public keys are stored into the metadata table too? | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko__ | pubkeys owned by user need an separate table | 19:36 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: ok got it thx ... | 19:37 |
| sslypushenko__ | no problem) | 19:38 |
| catherineD | will review your patches ... This is my priority this week ... | 19:38 |
| catherineD | enything else on this topic? | 19:38 |
| sslypushenko__ | Ok, I will update commit messages to help | 19:38 |
| sslypushenko__ | lets move on | 19:38 |
| catherineD | I will skip topic 4 on ghe agenda because we had discussed it earlier ... | 19:39 |
| catherineD | #action OpenStackID integration should be the priority for the Refstack team in the next 2 weeks | 19:40 |
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| catherineD | #topic Refstack Discussion Topics at DefCore f2f meeting | 19:40 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: was at the Board meeting while Rob demoed Refstack ... | 19:41 |
| catherineD | Refstack was well accepted .... hogepodge: anything else to add ? | 19:42 |
| hogepodge | foundation staff really enjoyed the demo also | 19:43 |
| hogepodge | especially the new ui patches showing pass/fail | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko__ | Great thx to pvaneck for refstack UI) | 19:44 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: good job ... you should remove the workflow block so we can merge that patch ... | 19:44 |
| pvaneck | already did | 19:44 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: we thought that YES/NO would be controversial ... | 19:45 |
| hogepodge | definitely not. It's a big help | 19:45 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: I feel really happy for the entire Refstack team .... We start to see the results of our hard work .. | 19:46 |
| catherineD | Another subject discussed at the DefCore f2f meeting is for Refstack to run non-tempest test | 19:47 |
| hogepodge | We're going to be looking at how we can intrgrate refstack with marketplace, | 19:47 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: wow that is really good news for Refstack !!!! | 19:48 |
| catherineD | #topic EC2 API JSON Entry for RefStack | 19:48 |
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| catherineD | Do you all have a chance to review a note Rockyg: sent out about the EC2 test subject? I make a copy of her note https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-EC2-API-JSON-Entry | 19:49 |
| catherineD | so we can review it ... | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | do you have a chance to review this note? | 19:51 |
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| sslypushenko__ | in any way it leads us to necessity to run non-tempest test | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko__ | w] | 19:52 |
| sslypushenko__ | sorry) | 19:52 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I think sooner or later we have to be able to support non-tempest test ... | 19:52 |
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| catherineD | for this set of tests ... they are not only non-tempest they are also non-DefCore ... | 19:52 |
| Rockyg | they all run under tempest | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko__ | Yeap, and after it refstack can be used for that purpose easily, but not now | 19:53 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: it does not seems so from my first review ,... I can follow up with Alex ... | 19:54 |
| Rockyg | ok. Icould easily be wrong | 19:54 |
| sslypushenko__ | Rockyg Asfar as I understand they run functional tests for ec2api project | 19:54 |
| catherineD | How about we defer this topic until next week .... Let me take a closer look to see ... | 19:54 |
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| sslypushenko__ | +1 | 19:54 |
| catherineD | #action Review EC2 test week of 2015-08-10 | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko__ | run non-tempest tests is a next big step for Refstack | 19:55 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: yea .... | 19:56 |
| sslypushenko__ | actually for Tempest and Refstack | 19:56 |
| catherineD | And we need to support that | 19:56 |
| sslypushenko__ | We will | 19:56 |
| pvaneck | +1 | 19:56 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Chris asks Mirantis team to support this process | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: thx for bringing this test set to us .... it will be our first exercise ... | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: support unitest in Refstack? | 19:57 |
| catherineD | only 3 mins left | 19:57 |
| catherineD | #topic Open Discussion | 19:57 |
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| sslypushenko__ | support adoption to run external functional tests in tempest | 19:58 |
| catherineD | I start to see people asking questions and file bugs in launchpad for Refstack | 19:58 |
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| sslypushenko__ | qa-team has already been working on that from tempest side | 19:58 |
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| catherineD | that is an indication of people start to use Refstack ... | 19:59 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: great that the Tempest team start working on that ... | 19:59 |
| pvaneck | yea will pay more attention to that | 19:59 |
| catherineD | need to end this meeting .... thank you everyone !!! | 20:00 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 20:00:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-03-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-03-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-03-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 20:00:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:00 | |
| redrobot | As usual the meeting agenda can be found here: | 20:00 |
| rellerreller | o/ | 20:00 |
| jaosorior | o/ | 20:00 |
| silos | o/ | 20:00 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:01 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:01 |
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| kfarr | o/ | 20:02 |
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| diazjf | o/ | 20:02 |
| alee | o/ | 20:02 |
| redrobot | I doubt most of the rackspace crew will show | 20:02 |
| redrobot | they're walking around DC today | 20:02 |
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| alee | redrobot, ah everyone went up early? | 20:02 |
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| redrobot | alee yup! most left yesterday... I'm not flying out til tomorrow though | 20:03 |
| jaosorior | bummer I'm missing this mid-cycle :/ | 20:03 |
| alee | redrobot, ditto | 20:03 |
| redrobot | so this may be all of us today | 20:03 |
| redrobot | let's get started | 20:03 |
| redrobot | I'll be sure to get extra drunk in your honor jaosorior | 20:04 |
| jaosorior | hahaha excellent! | 20:04 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items from last week | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-07-27-20.00.html | 20:04 |
| redrobot | first redrobot to do some Launchpad grooming for Liberty-2 | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | So liberty-2 was released last Tuesday | 20:05 |
| redrobot | #link https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/liberty-2 | 20:05 |
| redrobot | And I did do some cleaning of LP | 20:05 |
| redrobot | I think I just have some bug priorities left to sort out | 20:06 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to finish prioritizing liberty-2 bugs, and also check them for kilo status | 20:06 |
| redrobot | next redrobot and jaosorior to fix the stable/kilo gate failures | 20:07 |
| redrobot | Aaaand I totally didn't have time to pitch in, jaosorior | 20:07 |
| redrobot | any updates on your part? | 20:07 |
| jaosorior | I haven't been able to figure it out. Today I tried asking help from the guys from infra. But had no response | 20:07 |
| jaosorior | tomorrow I'll try to ping them again | 20:07 |
| jaosorior | on the other hand, tomorrow I go on vacations | 20:08 |
| jaosorior | for 2 weeks | 20:08 |
| jaosorior | well, on wednesday | 20:08 |
| jaosorior | so it'll be a bit hard for me to continue this | 20:08 |
| redrobot | jaosorior I'll pick it up at the mid-cycle then... I'm hoping we'll have at least a day or two of just hacking | 20:09 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to fix the stable/kilo gate failures during mid-cycle | 20:09 |
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| jaosorior | so, someone has to take over this commit and the subsequent ones if we want this fixed soon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205059/ | 20:09 |
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| alee | jaosorior, I'll take it over if we dont get it resolved this week | 20:09 |
| redrobot | jaosorior hehe, fun | 20:09 |
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| jaosorior | well, you two can pair it in the mid-cycle :D | 20:10 |
| redrobot | and last one was jaosorior to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo | 20:10 |
| redrobot | which I assume is blocked on the gate failures | 20:10 |
| jaosorior | yes | 20:10 |
| jaosorior | those commits are there already for review | 20:10 |
| alee | jaosorior, oh I fully expect redrobot to fix it. I'll just stand right behind him and make sure he does it. | 20:10 |
| jaosorior | and they depend on the commit I linked you to, above | 20:10 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot and alee to backport the DogTag gate fixes into stable/kilo after redrobot fixes the gate | 20:11 |
| redrobot | alee lol, I believe it! | 20:11 |
| alee | jaosorior, I will take over the dogtag one | 20:11 |
| jaosorior | alee: haha at least provide him with beers to motivate him | 20:11 |
| redrobot | ok, that's it for action items | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | on to the agenda itmes | 20:11 |
| redrobot | items even | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | #topic Multiple-KMIP Device Support blueprint | 20:12 |
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| redrobot | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194298/ | 20:12 |
| redrobot | silos did you want to talk about this? | 20:13 |
| silos | yes. | 20:13 |
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| silos | I just wanted to get everyone's opinion and concerns on this. | 20:13 |
| silos | speficially If it's okay to alter some of the KMIP Secret Store code to enact this BP. | 20:14 |
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| redrobot | I was reading through it earlier... one thing I'm concerned about is adding new routes to the API that are very specific to a particular backend. | 20:14 |
| silos | redrobot: ah | 20:14 |
| redrobot | I'm currently looking into the way other projects handle extensions | 20:14 |
| rellerreller | redrobot I had the same concern | 20:14 |
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| elmiko | o/ sorry | 20:15 |
| rellerreller | I think the spec raises an interesting question. Should we allow a mapping from a project to a secret store? | 20:15 |
| rellerreller | In the past we said we would only have one secret store to make things simpler. | 20:16 |
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| rellerreller | This removes complexities from doing things like get transport key and then send back a wrapped key. The wrapped key could go to the wrong secret store. | 20:16 |
| rellerreller | However, if a project only has one secret store then a lot of the complexity may be able to be eliminated. | 20:17 |
| rellerreller | And the interface is simple to user because they still do not know about multiple secret stores. | 20:17 |
| redrobot | Yeah... previously we've recommended that a new Barbican be spun up for different backends... But it does seem a little weird to spin up multiple nodes for the same kind of backend. | 20:17 |
| redrobot | silos I'd like to understand the use case a little more... | 20:18 |
| rellerreller | I think it is an interesting idea, and there are some really good use cases. | 20:18 |
| silos | The main use case derives from separating KMIP servers on a public cloud. | 20:18 |
| silos | Some tenants would prefer their secrets stored in an isolated KMIP device. | 20:19 |
| redrobot | It seems a little counter intuitive... arguably the purpose of a cloud service is to pool resources together... | 20:19 |
| rellerreller | The nice part about it is that a user can provide their own KMIP server and monitor it. | 20:20 |
| silos | yea. I think it's more of a security concern than a resources concern. The fact that everyone's keys are in the same pool. | 20:20 |
| redrobot | so a tenant would rent a device? kind of like Amazon's HSM offering? | 20:20 |
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| rellerreller | So if I want my keys to be actually deleted then I smash my KMIP server :) | 20:20 |
| redrobot | I tend to think of this as a private-cloud use case | 20:20 |
| silos | I think it's more along the lines of what rellerreller said. I could bring my own KMIP device. | 20:21 |
| redrobot | seems like this is a better fit for private cloud federation... | 20:21 |
| rellerreller | It's a hybrid cloud where most everyhting is public but KMIP server | 20:21 |
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| redrobot | ie, I have my own device, set up my own barbican, and federate secrets that are needed in public cloud. | 20:21 |
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| silos | So in a federated barbican scenario the KMIP device is attached on the customer side not mgmt side? | 20:22 |
| redrobot | silos yeah... a customer keeps their kmip (or other secret store) on their own premise. | 20:23 |
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| redrobot | silos and then puts a private barbican in front of it | 20:23 |
| alee | rellerreller, silos , redrobot - I can see the possible use case, but I agree with the concern about adding routes specific to a type of backend. rellerreller idea of tying a project to a specific backend sounds like something to consider. | 20:23 |
| redrobot | silos then secrets are federated out to the public barbican when needed. | 20:23 |
| alee | we do the same thing on the cert side. | 20:23 |
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| alee | ie. allow you to associate a CA with a project/tenant | 20:24 |
| rellerreller | alee right. | 20:24 |
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| rellerreller | Then you can do things like this project paid for HSM, so we give them that. Or this project did not want that and get software based HSM. | 20:24 |
| silos | alee, rellerreller, redrobot, diazjf and myself have actually already pushed code that ties a kmip device to a single project. So I don't believe it would be that hard to implement. | 20:24 |
| silos | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207192/ | 20:25 |
| diazjf | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207202/ | 20:25 |
| redrobot | I still don't see the benefit of putting this all in the same instance of barbican | 20:25 |
| redrobot | in the past, we've talked about providing one instance per backend ... which led to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135779/ | 20:26 |
| redrobot | you could give a user who wants an hsm the endpoint https://hsm.barbican.mycloud.com:9311 | 20:26 |
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| redrobot | and someone who has a software based barbican https://hillcountry-fare.barbican.mycloud.com:9311 | 20:27 |
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| rellerreller | redrobot you are suggesting that registering the specific barbican service with keystone, so only that one is used? | 20:27 |
| rellerreller | That is definitely another option, and most of the support is there for that. | 20:28 |
| redrobot | yeah... Keystone already has separate endpoints for different regions | 20:28 |
| rellerreller | I guess the downside is that customer who wants specific KMIP device has to spin up another Barbican instance. | 20:29 |
| redrobot | yeah... but if they're already racking their own HSM in their own data center, I don't think putting barbican in front of it would be much of a stretch | 20:29 |
| redrobot | otherwise, I have my hsm in my prem, but have to hand over the credentials to my cloud provider | 20:30 |
| redrobot | federation would make that a little nicer, rather than just giving the cloud provider unlimited read/write access to my hsm. | 20:30 |
| silos | Wouldn't spinning up instances become very costly? Instead of 20 barbicans hooked up to 20 KMIP's it sounds more efficient attaching the 20 KMIP devices to a single barbican. | 20:31 |
| redrobot | silos depends on where the servers are... | 20:31 |
| silos | redrobot: true | 20:32 |
| redrobot | with the right config management tooling, spinning up new instances should be reatlively cheap | 20:32 |
| alee | rellerreller, redrobot sorry - need to drop -- but if could you guys specify any other info we might need to get to the midcycle? I'll check the transcript later. Right now all I know is the address. | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | alee there's more detail in the etherpad | 20:33 |
| rellerreller | The security part is interesting as well. Managing my own Barbican with own backend sounds more secure than giving credentials to remote Barbican. | 20:33 |
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| alee | redrobot, link? | 20:33 |
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| kfarr | alee https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-liberty-midcycle | 20:33 |
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| rellerreller | alee have you looked at the mid-cycle etherpad page? | 20:33 |
| rellerreller | alee you can always email or call me. | 20:34 |
| alee | rellerreller, cool thanks. looking at it now. | 20:34 |
| silos | This has been a great discussion but I don't wanna hog all the time if we want to move on redrobot. | 20:34 |
| kfarr | alee there's a link on the etherpad page to a Visitor's Guide, it has some pretty thorough maps. The building we'll be in is the Kossiakoff Center | 20:34 |
| rellerreller | I have to drop off in a minute as well. | 20:34 |
| alee | kfarr, rellerreller cool thanks -- I think that should be enough to get me there. | 20:35 |
| redrobot | silos will you be joining us in MD? | 20:35 |
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| silos | yup :-D diazjf who has been helping me will be there as well. | 20:35 |
| rellerreller | excellent | 20:36 |
| redrobot | silos awesome, let's add a bullet point to that mid-cycle etherpad to continue this conversation | 20:36 |
| silos | redrobot sounds good | 20:36 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:36 |
| redrobot | #topic Castellan merge requests | 20:36 |
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| redrobot | kfarr do you want to talk about this one? | 20:36 |
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| kfarr | I just wanted to make a note that there's a few Castellan merge requests out there | 20:37 |
| redrobot | kfarr I had a question about the formatting of the different secrets... | 20:37 |
| kfarr | I figured we'd get through them all at the mid-cycle, just thought I'd bring it up early just in case | 20:37 |
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| redrobot | I'll just add to the review then | 20:38 |
| kfarr | redrobot, what's your question? | 20:38 |
| kfarr | oh got it | 20:38 |
| redrobot | I was wondering why password was a byte-array instead of a string... | 20:38 |
| redrobot | also a few questions about the actual format of other types | 20:38 |
| redrobot | adn whether castellan should be able to do format conversions | 20:39 |
| redrobot | DER -> PEM and back for example | 20:39 |
| kfarr | Right now, the assumption that everything was going to be passed in as a bytearray and in DER format, to keep things simple and consistent | 20:39 |
| rellerreller | signing off | 20:39 |
| redrobot | ok, I'll keep that in mind for the airplane reviews tomorrow | 20:40 |
| redrobot | I think it would be interesting to consider other formats for v2 and beyond | 20:40 |
| kfarr | Ok thanks redrobot! Yes, that's a good point | 20:40 |
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| redrobot | ok, that's all we have on the agenda | 20:41 |
| redrobot | last topic I guess should be | 20:41 |
| redrobot | #topic Mid-Cycle Sprint | 20:41 |
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| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BarbicanLibertySprint | 20:41 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-liberty-midcycle | 20:42 |
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| redrobot | hopefully everyone who is going has travel figured out already | 20:42 |
| redrobot | kfarr we're scheduled to start Wed at 9am, yes? | 20:42 |
| kfarr | Yes! I think rellerreller and I plan to be there at 8:30 just to make sure everything's all good to go, expecting people to show up at 9 | 20:43 |
| redrobot | kfarr awesome! excited to go eat crab with y'all :) | 20:43 |
| kfarr | It'll be a good time :) | 20:44 |
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| kfarr | I mentioned this earlier, but since last week's meeting, I put a link to a Visitor's Guide on the etherpad page | 20:44 |
| kfarr | It's got some really useful maps and info | 20:44 |
| redrobot | sounds good! | 20:45 |
| redrobot | any other questions/comments about the mid-cycle? | 20:45 |
| kfarr | That's all from me! | 20:45 |
| redrobot | #topic Open Discussion | 20:46 |
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| redrobot | That's all I had on the agenda for today. | 20:46 |
| redrobot | Any other topics we should discuss? | 20:47 |
| arunkant | Will appreciate if ACL support changes in barbican client can be reviewed (3 reviews) . Especially docs related to changes (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208343/) | 20:47 |
| redrobot | arunkant sounds good... I'm going to see about getting one of those wifi passes for my flight tomorrow and catch up on castellan and client reviews | 20:48 |
| arunkant | redrobot and others, will be useful to get feedback if new commands and api looks okay. | 20:48 |
| arunkant | redrobot, okay. thanks | 20:48 |
| redrobot | Alrighty then, sounds like we're done a little early for today | 20:49 |
| redrobot | Thanks everyone for joining. Se y'all in MD! | 20:50 |
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| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 20:50:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-08-03-20.00.html | 20:50 |
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